WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 9/14: Three Positives on the Offense, Eagles Takeaways, Dolphins Preview 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.240 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.080 Lazar and Alex Barth and Lazarre. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:14.400 Hello, everybody nailed it, joined us always buy our bark. 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.120 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars. I said we 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.200 weren't going to get into the steam minutia, but that 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.799 that was it. That's what we do. I said, I 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:27.200 was gonna set the table first, but. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:28.840 We didn't say pleasantry. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.720 You guys don't believe in pleasantries over over at the hub. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.159 You got no we got we gotta show it. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.280 You're you're not into pleasantries, so we're not gonna do 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.920 pleasantries here today. It's Evan Lazarre, Alex Barth, Patriots Catch 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.720 twenty two with you until about four o'clock here today, 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.080 so we gotta get a long show today morell we got. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.080 We got almost the two full hours here, so it's 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.919 gonna be fun. It's gonna be good. Alex. We were 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.280 just talking before we we hit record on the show 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.280 that everybody is against your boy. Now everybody hates me, Alex. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.000 I I am I I am too negative. I'm the 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.200 grinch that stole Christmas or the week one moral victory 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.520 for the New England Patriots, and uh, everyone hates me. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.640 Everyone's mad, everyone's fired up. They're on the YouTube comments, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.479 they're emailing, they're they're they're they're tweeting at me. Uh, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.920 they're they're coming after me for my my Tuesday PU show, 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:25.880 talking about me everywhere, just kidding about how negative I 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.880 was about this Patriots team. So right off the top 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.640 of the show, here's what we're gonna do. Here's what 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.680 we're gonna do, so that all of you get off 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.800 my back and tell me that I'm not being negative 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.360 anymore and we can all move on from that. I'm 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:44.200 gonna give you three three whole nice things about your offense, 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.560 Patriots fans, three nice things about the offense. I'm gonna 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.960 go one at a time. Let Alex interject in between. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.559 But I'm gonna say three nice things about this offense 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.520 right now. So get off my back, all right. Get 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.560 this is positive, positive energy only, and I'm being one 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.840 hundred sense sincere, you ready go for it. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.680 Let's see, let's see how since here you can really 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:06.080 be here. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.320 Number One, I loved what I saw from Bill O'Brien 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.320 in this game. Thought Bill O'Brien had a great script. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.520 I thought he had great call sheet called good plays 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.080 in this game. I think a big reason why the 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.200 offensive line that was completely overmatched and overwhelmed in this game. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.320 Despite some narrative I said, it's gonna be positive something, 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.440 all right, and here we go, I can't even do it, okay, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.680 despite the mismatch between the offensive line and the defensive line, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.600 I thought a big reason in this game why it 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.160 didn't take over the game for Philadelphia is because of 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.240 how O'Brien called the game. Yeah, and I understand that 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.720 some people get annoyed by the thirteen screens and all 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.840 that kind of stuff, but it had to be it 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.000 had to be done. It had to be done. In 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.200 this game, I thought that they at least changed it 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.560 up enough with the screens that there was some different 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.520 ones that thrown in there, and then they finally sprung 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:03.400 the one for Romandra in the fourth quarter. The bunch 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.040 formations were excellent. And I think that this is something 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.240 that I really love about O'Brien, and he's talked about 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.239 this in some of the coaching clinics that he's done. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.360 One of the things I really love about him is 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.160 that when he finds something that works against a defense, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.160 he's not afraid to just keep pressing the button. A 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.480 lot of offensive coordinators and we're going to maybe talk 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.880 about one here later on in the show that I 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.760 a play caller, I guess I should say later on 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.600 in the show, think that every single play needs to 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.280 be unique and different, and like they want to win. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.720 They're trying to win every single play, right And I'm 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.080 not saying O'Brien's not, but like you understand what I'm saying, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.800 Like everything is different, window dressing, different design, YadA, YadA YadA. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.120 Bill O'Brien figured out that the Eagles were having difficulties 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.640 with the bunch formations, especially those tight bunches. That what 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.160 we saw in Kendrick Bourne's touchdown, the throw to Mario 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.040 Douglas on the sideline on the corner route, and he 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.040 just kept pressing the but and he just kept hitting 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.640 the play, hitting it, hitting it, and until you stop it, 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.960 I'm not gonna let you off the hook by going 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.800 to different things. Really enjoyed that with Bill O'Brien, thought 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.680 that he called the game well in terms of managing 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.440 the offensive line and managing the situation of the game. 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.280 And I thought he had Mac buttoned up in terms 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.599 of his decision making and where his eyes were going, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.600 and like things like that. So overall made in voyage 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.080 of Bill O'Brien in the regular season, I give him 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.760 an A minus an a minus. The only knock that 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.400 I had on this plan out of everything, I wish 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.640 there was a little bit more motion. I wanted them 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.440 to kind of stress the Eagles the same way Kansas 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.400 City did in the Super Bowl by using motion. Maybe 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.080 a little bit more motion, a little bit more downfield RPO. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.760 You know, I love both those things. That might be 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.560 the next iteration, but in terms of what we saw 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.800 in Week one, really enjoyed this game script from Bill 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.320 O'Brien and I thought he called a good game. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.880 I thought he did too. Again, you talk about this, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.000 this is everything I've been yelling for the offense to 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.599 be for two years, right it? Remember last year is 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.320 that we were talking about, No, the strength and in 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.120 this wide receiver group is the depth. It's not the 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.000 top of the depth chart. And they shouldn't have anybody 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.440 that really plays over an overwhelming amount and mix and 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.280 match the combinations, put them in different formations. Last year 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.880 was the same three guys in like two or three 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.839 formations and that was it. And that first drive. I 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.120 mean they're subbing in and out like this and like that, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.760 and they're in bunch and they're five wide and they 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.120 were in i think three at one point, depending on 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.800 how you want to qualify time Montgomery, and I mean 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.560 he got weird in a good way, uh throughout the game. 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.080 So I really liked what I had, what I was 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.520 off O'Brien. The one nitpick I had was on the 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.280 play before the final play, the kaishaon booty fourth down. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.280 The screen on third and thirteen felt very McDaniel's ish 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:48.640 to me. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.520 It was tough. I under the defensive line of the 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:53.920 Eagles made a great play on it. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.400 So but that's the thing, like I understand the defense 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.360 of that, Like, hey, they knew it was four down territory. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.760 They wanted to try it. They weren't trying to get 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.360 it all once. They're trying to get to like at 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.240 least a fourth and six, fourth and seven. But against 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.799 that defensive front, with the way the screens were working 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.839 in the game, I know Wheremandre hit one big one, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.960 but outside of that, I didn't think they're having a 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.920 ton of success on it. I'm not against the philosophy, 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.880 like they didn't need to pick up the thirteen yards 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.240 on third and thirteen. I'm not against that, but was 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.360 there a was there a better way to get six 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.440 or seven yards than throwing the ball into the backfield 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.120 in that situation. That was my one nit pick. Besides that, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.920 I thought the offensive game plan was awesome this week. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.520 I really liked what they did, especially given the circumstances 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.440 of who they had available and who they were facing. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.440 Yeah, the screen I watched back those those final two 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.760 drives this morning just to make sure I had it 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.320 right in my head, and the screen was. It was 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.000 set up to hit because they the Eagles were in 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.279 a too high safety shell. There was not a whole 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:52.680 lot of players in the box. I think there was 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.600 only one off ball linebacker on the play, and one 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.400 of our guys, Jordan Davis, made just a ridiculous play 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:03.520 to come off his rush and really force Remandre to cut. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.160 If Remondre doesn't have to take that extra jump cut 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.960 to get around Jordan Davis, then he just goes right 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.640 up the field, up the gut off of David Andrews's 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.400 block and gets probably eight nine yards before the safeties 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.720 come down and crash on him. But Jordan Davis made 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.960 a fantastic play on that. But I understand that you 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.320 wanted them to be a little bit more aggressive there, 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.480 and I don't fault you for it. But overall, I 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.840 thought O'Brien was great. I did want to like talk 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.920 a little bit more about the bunches and the stacks 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.000 that they were using. I just love this part of 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.960 Bill O'Brien's playbook. I think it puts the defense in 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.120 such a mind pretzel trying to cover these types of 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.360 routes because what the Patriots will do with the route 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.440 a lot of the times, there'll be an option on 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.880 one of the three routes side of the bunch that 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.280 is just breaking off of leverage. So for example, on 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.600 the Tomrio Douglas throw on the corner route, this is 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.760 just I don't know for a fact, but I'm just 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:02.680 like guessing Tomroo Doug I believe has a post corner 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.480 like he can break onto the post or it can 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.640 break on the corner, depending on how the defensive back 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.200 plays it. Right, the defensive back sits inside, he's going 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.200 to break the corner. If he sits outside, he's going 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.360 to break the post. And a I just think that 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.520 that's such a mind f like, you know, if you're 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.440 the defensive back, like you're trying to pick him up 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.920 out of the bunch formation. Now he's got this two 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.280 way option, there's all sorts of space. He really can't 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.120 jam him because he's in the bunch to begin with, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.400 so you can't get hands on early, and he just 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.560 has all this freedom to just then go ahead and 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.960 make a move and get open. And the other thing 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.600 I liked about that play in particular too, is that 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.480 the Mario made the the right read, ran the right 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.600 ran the right route. So I was really impressed with 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.719 the bunches, the stacks, you know, they run a lot 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.760 of that two lane you know, to option routes. One 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.320 at twelve yards, one at six yards. That worked like 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.760 multiple times. It worked on a on a Kendrick Born 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.319 throw for about eighteen yards, you know, Kendrick cott the 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.800 underneath option and then turned it upfield and ran for 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.559 about fourteen yards after the catch, and worked on fourth 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.640 down to Hunter Henry even though you had to one 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.360 hand and catch it, the concept itself worked and got 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.560 them open. So I thought that a lot of that 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.800 was really good. I think you'll continue to see a 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.160 lot of that moving forward. It's just fun to watch those, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.920 like to break them down and to see them the 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.920 spacing and the sequencing of it together, and the different 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.400 options that they have off those bunch formations, a lot 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.720 of different things you can do with them. So I 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:31.160 was really impressed with that. So there's one positive. I 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:36.000 did it. That was all positive. Right, you brought up 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:36.440 the screen. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.440 No, you brought up something before that. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.240 Yeah, set, Yeah, but I reset, I reset, you know, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:46.000 we kill kill right, reset, We did it again. Number two. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.240 In this game, I have said a lot of negative 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.880 things about Mac Jones. I will own that. Gonna give 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.160 them a positive in this I thought that Mac Jones 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.760 as well as Bill O'Brien did a really really good 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.440 job of managing the rush in this game. Two point 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.800 three eight time to throw on average, which is very 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:07.800 very fast. Now, a lot of that's quick game screen, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.199 I get that, but that's all part of it, right, 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.200 that's running all those things is all part of it. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.040 And I thought he did a really good job of 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:15.960 getting the ball out. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:16.280 Yeah. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.800 I thought he did a really good job of managing 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.400 the rush in the pocket, you know, maneuvering, making little subtle, 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.600 those subtle movements we talk about all the time. That 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.920 didn't seem like he has had that innate miss last year. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.559 He handled pressure well for the most part. Yeah, and 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:31.840 he was able to for. 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.800 What it was against that rush with the offensive line 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.319 he had, he handled pressure well in this game. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.160 Yeah, I agree. And I think which was. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.959 The biggest question coming into the season with him. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.520 Yeah. Again, I thought that there was a lot of 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.480 the reason why I said earlier, and I know I 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.959 said no negativity, but the reason why I said earlier 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.720 that the offensive line performance was really not that good 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.080 despite what we've heard about, you know, not giving up 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.040 a sack until the fourth quarter. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.240 I'm actually kind of with you on that one. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.080 But the offensive line performance was not that good because 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.240 a lot of guys were giving up hurries, but they 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.920 were hurries and not hits or sacks right because of Mac, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.680 And I give Mac a lot of credit. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.880 It was that Mac was his own best pass protector 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.800 in this game. And he said how many times we 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.040 say that this offseason, that's who Mac's gonna need to 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.880 be in twenty twenty three, And I thought he absolutely 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.679 was his own best pass We'll get to the offensive 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.840 line I'm with you on that one. I think for 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.280 what it was, it was fine. Yeah, but there's some 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.079 really heavy qualifiers that come with that that just are 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.040 applicable to this one specific game. 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.280 Yeah. And lastly, just on Mac with the pressure, I 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.200 thought he did a really good job of controlling the 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.720 depth of his drops in this game, which is an underrated, 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:40.560 sneaky thing. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.760 I mean, how many times did we see him last 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.600 year when he got pressured where he double back and 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.080 he'd start twisting around like I don't think did he 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.120 do that once in this game? 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.080 And he did a great job. I thought he was 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.120 really dropping for the most part. So the rule of 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:57.960 thumb is that you want to get the rusher on 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.680 we're talking about edge rushers now, you want to get 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:05.359 edge rushers ten yards past the quarterback ten yards. Yeah, 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:10.000 if it's eleven yards in the quarterback gets sacked, then 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.240 that's on the quarterback. The quarterback's got to step up 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.160 in the pocket. Now, if there's interior press, like I get, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.360 there's other factors. But the point is is that if 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.240 you're a tackle, your job is to block the edge 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.280 rusher ten yards past the quarterback. I cannot tell you 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.560 how many times in this game, Mac was dropping to 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.400 like seven or eight yards on purpose because he knew 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.720 that Calvin Anderson was probably gonna be a little shaky 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.880 over there in his first game. And they did a 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.920 really good job at controlling the depth of the pocket, 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.720 really really good job. And he threw made some throws 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.800 while under pressure, most notably the kender Born drop. Unfortunately, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.640 but that throw is a great throw. Well, it was 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.400 some pressure in his face, Seemer. There was a lot 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.600 of a lot of positivity about Mac Jones. All right, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.760 I said a lot of positive things. 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.280 It was the insistence to not acknowledge any of this 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.680 earlier in the week and not a breakdown that was puzzling. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.360 A lot of positive things about your quarterback. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:00.560 So where was this on Tuesday? 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.400 We'll get the tuesday anyways. Is that enough gushing about 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.040 the quarterback? Said three things? Yes? 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.040 Oh about the Yeah, all right, yeah, last one. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.920 Round of applause to the captain David Andrews. Great game 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.559 by David Andrews. I thought David Andrews played one of 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.360 his better games I've seen him play in a while, 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:26.080 not only blocking like snap to snap individually, but I 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.880 give he was helping those rookie guards out a ton 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.960 pre snap and he did a great job in this 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:37.000 game with a ton of chaos around him and two 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.520 guards that were getting beat like a drum on both 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.800 sides of him. And David Andrews. I said, no, dang it, 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:48.760 but still David Andrews. David Andrews, great, great game from him. 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.720 I hope that the hamstring's okay. I think it will be. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.319 He's a tough guy, he'll play through it. But I 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.360 really was impressed by by Da. He was great in 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:57.760 this game. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.520 I nothing about the Jamario Douglas or Kendrick Bourne makes 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.719 it into your positives. Not yet, Oh come on, not yet, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.480 not yet. We're not gonna talk about it yet on 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.160 the show. Or not yet. You're not willing to compliment 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:10.720 either of them. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.280 But I didn't say I'm not ready to compliment any 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.640 of them. Don't know, you don't get all crazy. I 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.600 just said that, like, we'll talk about it, we'll get 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.560 to it. Yeah, but these are my three like gold stars, okay, Like. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.720 I look, you watched the line closer than me, so 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.440 I'll give you the Andrews one for me. Like one 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.360 of my biggest takeaways coming away from this game is 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.360 just Kendrick Bourne. All the stuff we talked about, you know, 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.280 can he take off this year? Can he have that 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.120 remember that we were talking about, like to break out 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.840 year in year seven? Yeah, kind of like an abstract. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.200 I don't think there's anything fugazi about what he did 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.240 in this game. He's back. And this is why last 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.280 year I was red in the face saying it's malpractice. 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.280 They're not putting this guy on the field because he 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.920 can change the game. He can change the game. And 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:57.120 I thought he showed in this game why he makes 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:58.720 that and he and this is all with him having 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.280 a bad drop. I'm not gonna say he was. He 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.480 should have caught that ball on that third down late 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.840 in the game. That's probably Max's best throw. But there 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.960 were other things as well that cost him the game. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.360 It wasn't just that. And I thought Bourne was excellent 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:10.760 in this game. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.800 I agree with you that I agree with you that 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.920 one hundred and ten percent about last year with Kendrick Bourne. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.160 I agree with you one hundred and ten percent this 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.520 year that Kendrick Borne needs to be on the field. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.040 And it Yeah, we said before the season started. I 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.920 think both of us were in lockstep on this on 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.720 one of the previous shows on Catch twenty two that 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.680 we felt like Bourne should be the most targeted receiver 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.680 in the Patriots offense, and nothing that I saw on 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:42.400 Sunday deters me from that point. I will say he 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:48.520 has some route running miscues on film that I think, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.120 in the coach's eyes, probably hold him back a little 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.320 bit from being the guy that we all want him 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.360 to be. But at the same time, I'm not sure 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.800 for this particular football team that that can matter. Like, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.040 so I would if you want to run guy right, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.160 because like, if he runs like I think maybe in 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.120 this game he had two or three routes, I would 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.520 say probably two. I think the third one would be 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.240 a nitpick. I'd say there's probably two routes where I 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.920 thought that he ran the route incorrectly, But that doesn't 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.800 wipe out all the routes that he ran great right like, 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:22.960 and he runs too many good routes to take him. 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.400 Off, And I would just say that was a massive nitpick. Again, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.360 you're being positive, but great shot with it. No, but 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.360 I would like that it goes back to something we talked 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.160 about the soft steins. If they wanted that guy DeAndre 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.440 Hopkins was available. Yeah, Jerry Judy was real. I mean, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.600 now you're talking about a top twenty receiver, right if 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.440 the biggest knock on the guys two routes he ran 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.200 over the course of the game, and that's why you 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.120 can't feature him. Can then in the drop, but like 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.160 then you needed to go get Like he's as good 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.320 as they have and he's pretty good. But if you're 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.880 expecting elevation they they clearly felt based off what they 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.120 did in the offseason, I would argue that they don't 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.480 need a receiver better than what Kendrick Bourne did on Sunday. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.080 Yeah, and I again, I I his miscues are not 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.880 big enough for me to take him off the field 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.760 by any stretch of the imagination, because of how good 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.520 the good plays are with him. But at the end 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.560 of the day, the couple running miscues that he had 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.080 did hurt them, and then obviously the job hurts them. Yeah, 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:19.280 and that's just I'm with you, that's the difference between But. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.760 That's not even like I don't want to say it's 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.119 not his fault, but like, that's not he gave you 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.480 as much as you can realistically expect him to give. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.000 I agree if you want more. That's about the players 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.320 they have. I'm just simply telling you why I didn't 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:32.080 give him a gold star. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:33.040 Okay, that's it. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.920 So those are my three gold stars. Bill O'Brien, mac 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:43.439 under pressure, maneuvering pressure, managing pressure, and uh and and 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.440 David Andrews, who I thought was great in this game. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.879 You mentioned Damario Douglas. I am buying all the to 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.840 Mario Douglas stock. I want Damario Douglas on the field 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.479 as much as possible. I think that he is the 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.360 one guy that is dynamic in this offense besides maybe 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.040 Kendrick that can get open, that can run with the 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.400 football a little bit. I am clamoring, clamoring to see 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.359 him with the football in his hands with some space. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:07.760 Yep. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.360 They unfortunately couldn't get him loose in this game. They 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.760 were close on that throw that Jalen Carter made Max Sale, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.359 But I think that if they can get him in 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:20.280 those types of matchups. I really like the Mario Douglas 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.080 and how he ran the routes in this game. One 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.560 one conversion that he didn't run properly, but it's a 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.600 rookie in his first game. I'm not gonna and I'm 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.800 sure there's many more that the coaches know about the DIDO, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:36.040 but like, you know whatever, I just similar to Kendrick Bourne. Yeah, 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.160 he's gonna have some mistakes, he's gonna have some growing 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.600 pains as a young player, but he's too good to 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:41.880 not play him a lot. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.000 Yeah, their three bet went once they get healthy. I 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.320 think it's pretty clear at this point. There's been some 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.800 reporting to this points as well. When they're an eleven, Yeah, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:56.040 Parker Bourne Pop Pop. That's that's And I know people 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.520 want to knock Kashan Booty in this game too, Like 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:00.800 I wouldn't take him off the field. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:02.640 I didn't love Kashan Booty in this game. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.240 I didn't love him, but I didn't like he belonged. 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.399 If that makes sense, I don't know. I mean he 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:10.680 doesn't need a true red shirt, like. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.200 He's No, I don't think he needs a true red shirt. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:14.639 But just to get back to we can get into 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.160 Kashan buy because later, because I feel like that changes 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.359 the conversation. But the point being like, when you're an eleven, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.120 Parker Bourne Pop, that's got to be the group right now, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.680 Like those are the three best receivers. And I don't 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:26.440 know that it's close. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.919 I don't think it is. And I also would just 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.840 say that I like how those three compliment each other. 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.320 Oh, you have a really wide range of skill sets there, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.360 and no, I think it beyond. That's part of why 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:43.320 I like it. I think that group elevates, they all 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.320 elevate each other again because of that diverse the diversity 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:47.280 of skill sets within there. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.760 Yeah, I really like Douglass in this game. I did. 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:56.240 So those are my three positives, and we started the 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.120 show there. We're going to open up the phone lines 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.000 here in a second, eight five to five, pats five hundred. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.440 It is the phone number. Got three people on hold already. 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:04.600 We're gonna get to you and just a second, I promise. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.440 I think the one thing I do want to say 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.920 about you know what I said on Tuesday about Mac 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.400 and and just I don't want to beat a dead horse. 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.560 I've already talked about Mac and my my critiques about 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.440 Mac enough, but people that just listen to this show, 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:22.120 I want them to understand where I'm coming from as well. Right, Yeah, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.840 and uh, I think the biggest thing with Mac is 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.560 I want to say two things. One, Uh, I want 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.840 Mac Jones to be great. I really do, and I 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.560 think that people now, uh, maybe a little bit more 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.120 publicly than I would like. Yeah, I know that I 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.760 love Mac, Like, Mack's a great guy, and I enjoy 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.280 covering him, and I enjoyed the conversations that I've had 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.119 with him. I'm not we're not friends, Like, I'm not 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.439 saying any of that. I'm just saying like I enjoy 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:53.040 interacting with Mac. With that being said, where my frustration 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.920 comes from with Mac is I truly do want him 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:01.160 to be great. But for him to be great, he's 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.639 the little details of the quarterback position, the nuances that 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.280 you get from studying film over and over and again. 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.760 He has to dominate that, Like, he has to be 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:17.399 really really good at that because he's not going to 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:23.919 change dramatically from a physical standpoint. So if he's gonna 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:28.000 be great, then he has to have clean footwork. He 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.520 has to throw from a solid base, he has to 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.120 make good decisions with the football, he has to throw 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.440 on time, Like these are the things that he has 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:40.879 to do to play with his margins. And my frustration 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:42.919 comes from when I watch the film and I'm like, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.080 you're not controlling the controllabulls Mac. You got to be 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.560 able to control the things you can control. He can't 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:54.239 control the fact that he's not Lamar Jackson, and he 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.400 can't control the fact that he doesn't have it. People 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.399 get mad when I bring up Josh Allen that he 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.200 can't control the fact that he doesn't have an army. 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.200 Can control the he doesn't turn the ball or four times. 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.000 That's why people get mad. He can't control the fact 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.040 that he doesn't have an arm like justin Herbert. He 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:11.040 can't control that. But what he can control is his 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.280 own individual process and over the course of a game. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.840 So my frustrations with him come because I'm like, I 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.440 want you to be good, dude, but like you're these 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.800 are the things you're missing right now. And I think 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.600 the main thing from this game that I was concerned with, 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:30.480 and I'm willing to give him the caveat in the 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:34.199 and within that caveat give him the time for the 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.879 offensive line to get healthy, is that his footwork being 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.080 off in this game for large stretches might have been 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.720 related to the fact that he was not being protected well. 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.280 So the other thing I would say to that, because 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.320 he his footwork was good as a rookie it's not 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.600 totally new. He this goes back and I know people 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.760 are gonna roll their eyes and see me pointing a 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:58.359 finger at Matt patric again. But last year, do you 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.359 think he had a coach that when they in and 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.480 broke down the film could get to that level with him? 0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.320 No work on that and I and so, yeah. 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.480 Like I wonder, Look, obviously we all would love to 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.360 be a fly on the wall in any of those meetings, 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.320 but I really wonder what the coaches feel about it, 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.199 because the bottom line is is this is where my 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.520 concern came on Tuesday, is that when he doesn't throw 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.840 from a solid base, he doesn't throw at a ton 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:24.040 of all. 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:25.840 And look, I'm sure he knows that, and I'm sure 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.080 the coaches know that. And it's not like they just 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:29.919 got out here, right, they had camp and all of that, 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.520 But a game environment changes things. Like he was I 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.159 thought during camp he was doing a good job of 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:35.960 setting the feet and all that, right, And you I 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.880 think you agree with me on that. Yeah, I don't 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:40.240 know that there was somebody that was going to go 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:41.880 to him in last year, last year and say, hey, 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.880 this is kind of a mess. Yeah, And I think 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:45.760 he developed some bad habits, and I think when you're 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.440 down two starting guards, maybe someone last year started creeping 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:49.440 in the back of his head like I'm going to 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.200 take a beating today. We all thought that in the 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:52.800 press box. We were talking about like, he's not going 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:54.640 to make it through this game. Yeah, with two rookie 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.040 guards against his defensive line. Yeah, Like you mentioned, Bill 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:58.719 O'Brien did a great job kind of helped him out, 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.880 and he did a fantastic job himself of keeping himself clean. 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:03.160 But I think that was part of it. I think 0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.639 there's a lot he's thinking about in this game, specifically 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:10.560 beyond mechanics. I look at it and say, all right, yeah, look, 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:12.760 I thought Mac was better than you're giving him credit 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.479 for in this game. I think if that's Mac Jones' 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:19.160 worst performance of the year, this team's making the playoffs. 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.639 I'll say that right now. Or if Mac Jones playing 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.000 that way to that level is their biggest problem, and 0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.760 they have no bigger problems than Mac Jones performing like 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:29.320 he did on Sunday, when again he threw for three 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.760 hundred yards and three touchdowns against the top ten defense 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.280 in the league. If that's their biggest problem, they're gonna 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.040 make the playoffs and that's good. Now maybe it's not. 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:41.520 Maybe it gets worse. Can the coaching staff fix those 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.480 little things that you're talking about, and can him and 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.800 Bill O'Brien get in the lab and basically does he 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.960 go in there? He was hard on himself after the game, 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.520 so I think he knows what you're saying. Yeah, can 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:51.919 they go in the room and say we need to 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:53.800 fix A, B and C and then come out on 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.560 Sunday night and A, B and C are fixed? And 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.080 this to me, when it relate, whether it relates to Mac, 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:00.960 whether it relates to the the offense, whether it relate 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.320 to some of the coaching decisions, this is the great Uh. 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.680 This game was weird in terms of having to sit 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.119 up there and evaluate it. I wrote like three different 0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.240 columns because I didn't like them, and I kept having 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.320 to scrap them because I think this feels people are 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.040 gonna hear this as a fence sitting take. I will no, 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:23.720 but it's not. It's not. There wasn't because the Patriots 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:28.720 played such a polarized game. Whatever your preconceived notion was 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.720 about the team going into that game, you have something 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.240 to point to and say it was true. If you 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.960 want to sit here and say, hey, Bill O'Brien's here, 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.760 the offense looked different. They moved the ball against this 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:41.639 good defense at times, and hey, it's the you know, 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.640 defending NFC champion. It wasn't gonna be perfect. I think 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.280 that's a perfectly valid take. And you could sit here 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.320 and say the issues they had, and I believe this, 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:53.439 the issues they had, while similar to the issues they 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.639 had last year, the problem last year wasn't that they 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.479 were making those issues in September. A lot of teams 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.160 make similar mistakes to the ones they made in September. 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.840 The problem was they were still making them in December. 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.240 They never got fixed. And that was the case last year. 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:08.560 It was the case the year before that, it was 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.399 the case the year before that. So you're absolutely allowed 0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.560 to sit here and say I saw a lot from 0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.679 that game that I liked. I saw a lot that 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:19.760 looks like progress. Yeah, it wasn't perfect, but to go 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.200 toe to toe with the defending NFC champion in Week 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.439 one and have time to build on that with the 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:28.000 new coaching staff, I'm encouraged. At the same time, I 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.680 do think it's fair to say yes, but we felt 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.240 encouraged in twenty twenty early in the season. We felt 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.480 encouraged in twenty twenty one early in the season. Even 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.960 last year early on, there were some moments where we 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.239 were like, Okay, here we go, let's see and then 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.800 So it's not a moral victory thing though, No, it's 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.080 a benefit of the doubt thing in a bubble. Listen, 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.639 just let me finish it. Let me finish in a bubble. 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:56.040 I'm young team, third year quarterback coming off a year 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.560 they missed the playoffs, goes toe to toe with the 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:02.119 defending NFC champion. I think a lot of with making 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.480 mistakes that are pretty textbook to make early in the year. 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.719 I think a lot of teams you would look at 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.840 that and a lot of circumstances and say, there's something 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.120 to build on here. It's not a moral victory. Think 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.400 it's not necessarily feel great about it, but it's when 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.960 we're projecting out over the course of a seventeen game season, 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.160 if the things that usually get fixed across the league 0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.480 by teams get fixed, they'll be in a good spot. 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.120 I think that's an absolutely fair evaluation of this game. 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.679 But you can also bring in the caveat that we 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.800 felt that way about this team in twenty twenty and 0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.000 they never made the fixes they needed to make. We 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:34.920 felt this way about the team in twenty twenty one, 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.320 and they never made the fixes they needed to make. Obviously, 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.600 last year they never made the fixes they needed to make. 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:44.280 So our Bill and O'Brien and Adrian Clem that much 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:49.159 better that Obviously they're better than Patricia. But like the 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:53.159 McDaniel statts in twenty and twenty one, are are Patricia? 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:58.400 Are mcdan the third try? Are O'Brien and Clem? 0:27:58.640 --> 0:27:59.640 Yes worth? 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.440 The best benefit of the doubt that not only can 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.480 you look at it and say they are going to 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.960 fix these things, but say they are going to fix 0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.080 these things that they haven't been able to fix in 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.520 each of the last three years. That's essentially the question 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.560 me coming away from this game. Are you taking the 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.480 cheese on it? Are you going to after what we've 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.399 been through the last three years of them falling apart 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.840 November and December? Are you still willing to look at 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.640 this and say it'll look better by Thanksgiving, it'll look 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.560 better by Christmas than it does now. 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.640 That's a fair take. I don't disagree with a lot 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.920 of that I think where my bigger concern came from. 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.000 I guess from this game. Because I can nitpick mac 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.720 Jones all day long, I'm not going to do it. 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:39.960 You know. There's little things with his footwork that I 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:42.720 didn't like, especially throwing the ball to his right. I 0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.320 thought that throwing to the ball to the right sideline, 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.960 the ball died on the mall game long, and that 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.240 it was footwork related to me. Like I think because 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.640 for him, and like I said earlier, like he needs 0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.239 to have a solid base and solid footwork for him 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:01.000 to generate velocity. He can't generate a velocity of platform. Yeah, 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.600 so he has to have a solid platform to throw from. 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.040 So I think that that's where a lot of my 0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.200 concerns came from. The other concern that I had in 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.920 this game was, like you said, coming into the year, 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.840 confirming a prior, and my prior was now when the 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.040 chips were down and it was the fourth quarter, and 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:26.680 Bill O'Brien can only take you so far because it 0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.520 ultimately comes down to the players on the field winning 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:35.080 a game for you. I did not think offensively, not offensively, 0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:38.760 not just Mac Jones, the entire offense. I did not 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.320 think that they had enough talent to win those games. 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.200 So I guess this goes back to my point. I 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.400 think some people will just agree with you. Flat some 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.080 people will say, look, it was no secret that the 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.520 Eagles defense had more talent than they did on offense. 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.600 I don't know how many teams in the league have 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.680 more talent on offense than the Eagles do on defense. 0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.640 It's a very short list. Yeah, I think some people 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.720 look at that and say, this one they didn't win. 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.800 But more often than not, in that situation, Bill O'Brien 0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.440 will be the difference that they will be able. And 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:10.120 you have the stat was it owen thirteen? 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:14.200 Right? Oh? And twelve in in uh twenty five plus 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:15.400 points games? No. 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.880 The other one the game leading drive on he has 0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.520 one in thirty three, one and thirty three. 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:19.920 Okay. 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:21.920 I think some people look at it and say, Bill 0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.280 O'Brien's gond increase that number in this one specific instance, 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.040 he didn't. Yeah, and it's against a very good defense. 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.600 But let's see them get in that situation against Miami. 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.120 Let's se him geting that situation against some of the 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.360 other teams on their schedule that aren't as good defensively 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.280 and it may not go from one to thirty three 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.240 to thirty three and one, but or thirty three for 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.000 thirty three or whatever. But like and it doesn't need 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.040 to it needs to be about five hundred. But so again, 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.680 is Bill O'Brien gonna fix it? There's another number. I 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:48.800 gotta find the stat I. 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:50.280 Just don't know if Bill O'Brien's enough. 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:54.479 And that's where so and that's that's basically what the 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.080 question is. I think coming away from this game, it 0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.600 was the first week Bill O'Brien had to work with them, 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.080 and there's I think you'd agree with me on this 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.560 any new coach. And we were actually arguing about how 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.520 much of a difference a new coach makes before the show, 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.040 So I know you're with me on this. Any new coach, 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.360 you need a game or two to really get things fixed, right, 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.800 So I think the argument is all right. Here we 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.040 are with this team again. It was promising, but it 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.520 definitely wasn't perfect. It was good but not good enough. 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:20.920 Is Bill O'Brien the guy to get them to good 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.760 enough from where they started on Sunday? 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.360 So I don't disagree with anything that. 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.200 You just let me make one more point on top 0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.239 of it. I think that the counter to that is 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:35.280 people talk about, you know, one one in the twenty 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.040 So this is the twenty five points thing, scoring more 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.320 when the opponent scores more than twenty five points. What 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.800 was the number again? Oh and twelve with mac Jones, 0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:48.360 they are without Tom Brady three and twenty five. So 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:53.200 it's without Tom Brady or Randy Moss. Because of those 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.440 three wins, two of them happened in two thousand and eight. 0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:00.840 They're one in twenty five, one in they won such 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.560 win basically without Tom Brady Randy Moss. Is it a 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.280 mac Jones problem or is it a because if it's 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.400 a mac Jones problem, maybe Bill Obriant can fix it. Yeah, 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.960 if it's a Bill Belichick problem, right, I don't know 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:14.680 how much it helps. 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:16.960 It's gonna give it, so that that's kind of where 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.440 I was headed with it. Yeah, when we say Bill 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.840 Belichick problem, we mean a roster construction problem. 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.160 Well, could be a roster construction problem or like a 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.120 game approach philosophy problem. 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.800 But I think the main thing is roster construction. Game Like, 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.880 I think they're both together when I say Bill is 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.880 trying to win the game. In my mind, twenty four 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.240 to twenty right, like he's trying to get he's trying 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.200 to build on defense to the point where you're not 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:40.040 going to score, right. 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.600 I think Bill might say points, Bill might say truth here, 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.600 and Bill Belichick here. If you allow twenty five points, 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.600 you've already lost that kind of thing exactly. 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:51.520 So to that point, the play that really put me 0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.960 over the edge and led to a Tuesday's show and 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.640 all this this crap that I've taken. The play that 0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.440 really put me over the edge was the fourth and 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.320 three play on the second to last drive of the 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.960 game for the Patriots, because on fourth and three they 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.160 I believe they emptied the backfield on it. It might 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.680 have been one back regardless, Mac and the gun, and 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:19.280 they have Juju in the left slot there. That's your guy, right, 0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.920 like that's your big money offseason free agent edition. We'll 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.480 get it apparently, but that's supposed to be your guy, right. 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:31.920 And the initial read on the play is Juju on 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.600 an option route, run it and get open. He doesn't 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.160 have to break any particular way. He doesn't have to. 0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.800 It's not a you know, a leverage read necessarily, it's 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:46.800 just make your guy miss, right, Just get open on 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.520 the route. So that's that's the guy you paid twelve 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.560 million dollars a year or two to get open on 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:56.160 this route. And the initial nitpick or not even a nitpick. 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.840 This was just a bad play for the team. The 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:04.920 initial hiccup is that Juju just doesn't get open. He 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.680 gets suffocated off the line of scrimmage and doesn't get open. 0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.600 So at that point Mac has to come off his 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.279 first read and make something happen out of it. And 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.719 then there's pressure, right, So here's the second problem with 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.600 the play is the pressure. So MATC comes off the 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.719 first read, tries to get over to the other side 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.800 of the field to the second and now there's pressure 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.000 in his face, which you and I are both on 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:34.279 the record numerous times talking about the short fallings in 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:38.439 the offseason about offensive line personnel. Yeah, here you go, 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.239 your rear in your head, right, So your twelve dollars 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.759 million dollar receiver can't get open on a one on 0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.960 one when you created a matchup for him out of 0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.880 the slot on fourth and three to get four yards, 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:50.680 he can't get open. 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:51.239 Right. 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.480 Then your quarterback goes to move off of it correctly 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.439 and he can't get to the second read without there 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.479 being three people in his face. Right, and Maac breaks 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.520 the pocket. Good job, right, gets out of the pocket, 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.200 gets out of the pressure. As he's rolling to his 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:12.280 right out of the pressure, Kendrick Bourne is streaking across 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.680 the field on a crosser and he's wide af open, 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:21.080 wide af open behind the linebacker. And this is not 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.960 one of those like Mahomes fifty yard right now, wrist 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.399 like eight or nine yards Dounfield's. It's a ten yard 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.080 throw maybe. And you can throw it with touch like 0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:31.960 you can loft it like you don't. He doesn't even 0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.320 need to drive it into any hole. He's not fitting 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:35.040 it into a window. 0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:35.279 No. 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.480 All he's gotta do is layer it over the linebacker, 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.440 puts a mayror under it to let Kendrick Bouran run 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:47.480 underneath it, and just feather it over the linebacker. I 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.120 think I sent you the play. I'm sure you've watched 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.799 it on your own, Alex. I promise you that if 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.720 he makes that throw, it's a touchdown. 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:54.759 Yeah. 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.600 Kendrick Bournan is gonna run under it. There's nobody there 0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.600 to stop him, and he's gonna score a touch on 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.160 the seat in the middle of the field. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.919 It was a misthrow. Again, I'm I think you're being 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.160 You've been too critical on Mac this week, But I'm 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:07.640 not gonna say he was perfect and that was a 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:08.440 missed opportunity. 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.160 So instead, what happens is is Mac kind of panics 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.480 frankly and takes a sack on the play instead of 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.600 making the throw. And those three boxes, to me, are 0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.920 the Patriots in a nutshell right now. They don't have 0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:25.200 a good enough receiver to win the one on one Juju, Yeah, 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.120 they don't have a good enough offensive line for the 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:30.320 quarterback to go through the progression. And then Mac Jones 0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.040 is not a play creator. He's not a second reaction 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.680 extended play creator outside the pocket. And so if you 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.279 are xing off all three of those boxes all at 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.480 once in a critical moment, you're gonna get what happened 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:44.759 on Sun. 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.840 And just just for the record, you can work around 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.839 one of those things, the offensive line well, and any 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:53.680 of them, I'm saying, like you you can. 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.000 There is really tough. 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.600 You don't have to have all three. Basically, don't have 0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:58.360 all three. 0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.440 But if you don't have a money winner, like if 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.719 you don't have like a guy that when it is 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.759 an absolute need to have it down. If you don't 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.920 have a receiver that the quarterback can go to, it's hard. 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:12.839 No, But but this is what I'm saying, Like, if 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:18.200 you have one of those three things, you're in good shape. 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:19.719 I think if you have if you have two of 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.839 good three, you're you're you're pretty cooking, right. 0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:22.680 But they don't have that. 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.879 They don't have. But that's my So I think you 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:29.200 say that, and I'm just like translating here and I'm 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.359 not disagreeing with you, but it's like you say that, 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.000 like they didn't check any of these three boxes. They 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.360 don't have anyse three things, and people like, oh no, 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.959 blow it up, Like, yeah, you don't necessarily need all 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.200 of those threes exactly right, this is my point. 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.759 And so yes, this is exactly my point. So this 0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.880 is my whole take on this, right, And this is 0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:53.080 exactly my point. If you had a receiver, if you 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.440 handed aj Brown a Patriot jersey on Sunday and you 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.440 had a receiver that could win that route out of 0:37:58.480 --> 0:37:59.800 the slot, then you're golden. 0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:01.719 Then right, then none of the other two things don't 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:02.640 come into into play. 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.960 Play. If you had an offensive line that allowed mac 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.640 John's to go through the progression. Then he hits Kendrick 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.040 Bourne from the pocket with a touchdown on the other 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.080 side of the field instead of having to move right. 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:17.239 If you had a quarterback that was a wizard when 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.480 the play breaks down, then you would have had another 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.319 touchdo right, right, But they struck out on all three. 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.359 So like and there were good teams Like I would say, 0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.320 the Chiefs don't have all three of those things, No, 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.880 but they have Patrick, right, But that's the point. Or 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.279 the Niners don't have all three of those things. 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.000 They have two of three. They have the offensive line, 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:35.520 they have the receiver. 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.040 Yeah, but some people would hear that and say, if 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.719 you don't have the quarterbacks to qualify, And that's just 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.600 the point of trying to prove, like there's ways to 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.040 make it work. And this is why we were pounding 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.200 the table for Jerry Judy, this is why we were 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:49.280 pounding the table for DeAndre Hopkins because we talked about 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.840 after those moves ev in this offseason, what was the plan. 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.360 The plan was they were banking on Bill O'Brien and 0:38:56.440 --> 0:39:00.480 Adriene Klem to elevate the group they had rather than 0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.120 add to it. But at the end of the day, 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.920 it's a spot where you need somebody to win. Rout 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:06.040 might not be able to get that. 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.200 Yeah, it's just that's what it is. 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.279 And and and let let me let me let me 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.080 say this, like O'Brien and Klement elevated that group on Sunday, Yeah, 0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.560 they absolutely did. But it was just to the extent 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:19.840 that they were never gonna be able to do to 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.880 the extent which they need to because down two guards, 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.600 down the number one wide receiver. I know you're rolling right, Oh, 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:30.840 we're celebrating twenty points. Given the scenario, twenty points. You 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.680 told me they were going to put up three hundred 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.399 and eighty yards and twenty points in that scenario, I'd 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.120 say they did a pretty good job all things considered. 0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:42.239 Yeah, but they but they gave. They're not saying to 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.960 be happy about team the way I look at it, 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.600 and I know that this is probably not how you're 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.880 going to look at it. But to an extent, they 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:52.640 netted six points. 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.120 You you, you can't come away from that game and say, 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:57.520 Bill O'Brien did a badge. 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.160 Of I didn't say that I gave. But that's to 0:39:59.239 --> 0:39:59.799 the point I'm. 0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.680 Trying to That's the point I'm trying to make and 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.840 your you're putting my point is like I'm agreeing with you. 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:10.520 Ohbrian and Clem. The plan was for O Brian Clem 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.280 to elevate the group. They elevated the group on Sunday. 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.280 But that's the whole plan for the whole team. 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.239 But this is my point. I don't this is what 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.200 I'm saying. I think what you're saying is basically they 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:22.759 might not be able to elevate them to the point 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:23.520 that they need to. 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.439 Elevate them, not not in those big moments, right, And 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:32.400 I the the difference is and I so this is 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.239 this is my other mistake of why I came in 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.680 so hot. On Tuesday. After I watched the Patriots film 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.360 and did did my my uh after further review and 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.359 all that stuff for the Patriots and got that out 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:46.360 of the way, I I turned on Chargers Dolphins and 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:50.080 I watched the Chargers Dolphins game, and in that particular 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.520 game to A played out of his mind. He was fantastic. 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.600 We played against a coach defense, but yeah. 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.919 He played out of his mind. He was really freaking good. 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:00.839 Justin Herbert also really good. 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:01.960 I know that. 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:07.160 And so I watched two quarterbacks that right now might 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.040 be like top five, top ten quarterbacks in the league 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:15.000 after watching Mac and the Patriots offense. 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.040 And oh so this is just recency bias seven, that's all. 0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:22.480 This is partially the what. And I'm telling you it's 0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.120 not just the quarterback play. So I don't want people 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.640 to focus in on that either. It's not just the 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.080 quarterback play. But when I tell you that it looked 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.080 like the Miami offense was playing a different sport, I 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.640 really am not saying like it really was. Because the 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:44.200 Patriots offense needs to go ten plays on an eighty 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.440 r drive and like meticulate, matriculate down the field and 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.480 all that kind of stuff and not make any mistakes 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.880 to go backwards, to stay ahead of the chains and 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.279 beyond schedule and all. The Miami just like throws it 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.160 up to Tyreek and it's the touchdown, right, So. 0:41:56.200 --> 0:42:00.080 Yes, but they don't have This is what's what's annoying 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.080 to me about your take. And by the way, they 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.560 don't need to do that. They went sixty three plays 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.400 in six yards for touchdown before they had plays a 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.480 good two minute. That was a great two minute trail. 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.040 I almost put that as a gold star, But I 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:10.640 just gave it to. 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:12.879 O'Brien, Okay, fair enough. I mean O'Brien played a big 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.000 part in it. They went They did that without calling 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:21.040 a time out, which is impressive. So you have proven 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.680 that Tyreek Hill is better than any receiver on the Patriots. 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:25.000 Congratulations on your hot take. 0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:30.160 I'm not saying that. I'm just telling you that the execution, 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:33.640 the speed, the dynamic playmaking, like all that stuff from 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.560 the quarterback on out was just different in that game, 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:42.239 and that, as a Patriots fan, most importantly, is frustrating 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.759 because we've been talking about this for four years now, 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.120 really five, like going back to nineteen Brady's last year, 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:54.080 and it's the same story about the talent on the team. 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.600 I agree with you that they looked better. I agree 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.920 with you that Mac looked better. Everybody looked better on offense. 0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.600 The coordinating was better, the play calling was better, the 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:08.839 play design was better, the quarterback was better. But at 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.200 the end of the day, they still have middling talent. 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.400 They just do. So you're right. I don't think they 0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.920 need to change the quarterback to make it even to 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:21.880 get over the hump, if you want to call it that, 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.160 but they had to change something and now We're in 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.040 the season, so they're probably not going to make any 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:28.920 drastic changes to the roster. 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:30.560 I mean, is there a change they could make at 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.239 this point that would I guess Mike Evans would be 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:32.520 the one. 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.440 Yeah, if Mike Evans or like T Higgins comes available 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:36.160 or something like that. 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:37.680 I don't think the Bengals are tracking a right. 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.439 But let's I don't want to get too bogged down 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.200 all this as we already have, so let's open up 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:43.680 the phone lines and then I do want to talk 0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:45.680 about the defense. We're going to talk about the Dolphins. 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.000 So let's turn the page here and uh, we'll see 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.960 what you guys have to say. Roger's in Wakefield. Roger, 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.080 if you're still there, I really appreciate you waiting on 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:53.719 hold this long. 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:56.200 Yeah, nobody. 0:43:57.880 --> 0:43:58.680 Be good. How are you? 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.240 Let's move on from this game. We had enough discussed 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.560 the back and will pell at the cross to building. 0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:11.200 So I just have two comments. One is from the 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:15.800 Dolphins game, which I want your response. How the fazious 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.400 defense is going to handle the hall the whole motion 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:24.040 thing of Tyre Kim, How Jonathan Jones and the other 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.400 cornerbacks who will be trying to cover him tackle that 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.440 And the second one is what I felt is they 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.520 they played a lot of bookies in the game greats 0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.360 except one troop. He played only ten steps. 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:39.280 That is market. 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.200 I think they kept him safe. That's what I think. 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:44.640 I want your take. 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.440 So you think, what was it on Marty Mapu? Sorry, 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.600 I I think they were hiding him for this game. 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.239 They are not unleashing him in that game. They just 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.560 want to be use his powers in this game, his 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:00.839 speed or something like that. That's what I think. 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.080 Got it, got it. Thanks for the Colorajer, you really 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:09.960 appreciate it. And we'll we'll we'll answer that question. Do 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.799 you think they were hiding Mark. I don't know if 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:12.600 they were hiding him. 0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.400 I think he said for this game, like why they 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.640 didn't see him in the in the summer. I mean 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.239 he was hurt as part of it. 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:20.080 So I don't know. 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:21.759 I don't think they hit him in this game. I 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.760 mean you saw him spying Jalen Hurts, he was covering 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.120 a J. Brown down the field. He was everywhere. 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:28.920 Yeah, I mean only played like ten snaps. 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.000 Yeah, he played some high impact snaps. He did like 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:32.839 the assignments they gave him time. 0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.120 My guess is that the way that they view So 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.239 Christian Zal is gonna playe hundred percent of snaps every 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.680 week right like he's he's out there, he's first round pick. 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:41.719 He's going to play all the time. I think with 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:45.279 Kean Whiten and Marte Maphu to not put like too 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.080 much on their plate right out of the gate. My 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.080 guess is the plan, like you kind of just alluded to, 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:54.759 is to pick and choose your high impact spots with 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.000 those guys. I thought Mapu was fine. I mean I 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.960 there was one rep that I really really liked from him. Obviously, 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.680 the post safety rep was was nice with Gonzalez on 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.279 the post, but he had the post corner route to 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.560 a J. Brown that was good. But there was a 0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.279 play and this was a this was an issue for them, 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.319 uh in terms of picking up the crosser from this 0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.600 passing strength going to the weak side of the field 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.120 and uh, Marty mop who was in the week cook 0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.360 and and he actually turned and picked up the crosser 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.400 for the first guy that did it right like you 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:29.280 know Bentley I thought missed one. I think it was Bentley. 0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:29.759 Uh. 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.840 And then somebody that was playing in the slab I 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.600 don't remember who it was somebody that was playing in 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.239 the slot, miss miss Dallas Goddard on that post corner 0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:39.399 route and he was wide open if if Jalen Hurts 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.200 had thrown had thrown the crosser, and I thought Marty 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.160 mop who did a really nice job of taking that away. 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:46.760 So maybe it was something they came to the sideline 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.520 and they said, hey, guys, we gotta we gotta clean 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.400 this up, and and he was able to be on it. 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.520 I don't know, But do I think they were hiding 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.799 him No. I think that they are easing him in 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:57.919 is a better way of putting it. I don't think 0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:00.920 that they feel like he's fully ready to play as 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.440 much as like Gonzalez played, for example. 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:05.120 Yeah, I think that's fair. 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.680 All right, let's take this file from Todd. What's up Todd? 0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:14.480 Hey, guys. So, I think the difference between McDaniel's offense 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.560 when you know Mack was in it, and then. 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.960 Of course last year's debacle is. 0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.920 That Bill O'Brien can actually game plan and just develop 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.960 an offense based around mac talents. I don't think McDaniels 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:28.879 did that. I think he's you know, might have changed 0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.360 his opens a little bit, but it's still McDaniel's offense. 0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:32.759 He wants you to run it. The same thing is 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:35.280 happening at the Raiders is like, you run my offense. 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.200 That's why you know last year there was quarterback controversy 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.959 because you know, it wasn't wasn't as a round peg 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.440 in a square hole, vice versa whichever. And I think 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:50.160 that maybe, just maybe, you know, as a league, as 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.359 the year progresses, we're going to see something from Max 0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:54.400 that you know, this is the year, This is the 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:56.600 year when he gets a chance, because this should be 0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.799 his offense and designed around him. So I think this 0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:02.400 is a make or break here. In all honesty, I 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.319 don't see him coming out of this year with either 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.520 being successful or gone. I can't see any other thing. 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.839 I don't see him continuing. If he's not successful, he's 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.359 done because this offense is his. What do you guys 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:12.839 think safe? 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.400 Yeah? Great, great call to great call because I couldn't 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.640 agree more about the difference between O'Brien and McDaniels, because 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.319 this is something Alex said, I don't necessarily want it 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:24.120 to be. You know, I love Josh McDaniels. I'm a 0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.840 big McDaniels guy, but I agree with Todd one hundred 0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.920 and fifty percent that McDaniels is McDaniels. McDaniels runs his 0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.920 offense to the point where, frankly, other than like the 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.000 read option stuff that they put in for Cam Newton, 0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.200 they were asking Cam Newton to like do Tom Brady thing. 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.480 Yeah in twenty twenty, Like, they didn't change the passing 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.240 concepts of that offense a whole lot for Cam Newton. 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:50.239 So I agree one hundred and ten percent that McDaniels 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.880 is you do my you run my things like this 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:54.640 is my offense. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:56.839 You figure how many like scheme touch guys that they 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.000 try to bring in here under McDaniels that's never worked out, 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:00.720 like you'd see those pass and stuff. 0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.759 Yeah, and he what's happening with the Raiders. And I 0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:08.200 think that they drafted mac Jones in part because they 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.840 figure kne Josh McDaniel's going to be his offensive coordinator. 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:12.960 Maybe they thought it was going to be a longer 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.680 runway than it ended up being. Yeah, but they thought 0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:18.200 Josh McDaniel's going to be the offensive coordinator, and in 0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.760 that draft, he was the best fit for the McDaniels offense, 0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.240 And that's why they they drafted him in the first round. 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.160 So I agree wholeheartedly that that's a great way of 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:31.520 putting the differences I feel between McDaniels and O'Brien, because 0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:36.000 I will add this, I don't think that the pat 0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.399 I don't think it's I don't think it's fair to 0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:42.680 say or categorize and say that the Patriots are running 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.680 the same offense they were running with Josh McDaniels. I 0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:50.120 think there's a lot of pretty significant schematic differences between 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.640 how O'Brien approaches the offense and how McDaniels approached the offense, 0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:58.080 both from a formation grouping standpoint, obviously not having a 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.439 fullback and not having twenty one personal and not using 0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:05.239 at avenue. But also I would just say from the 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:07.839 way that their passing game is is designed, I think 0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:12.960 it's significantly not not say significantly maybe, but different. They 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:14.560 have a lot of the same concepts, they have a 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.920 lot of the same ideas in terms of, like you know, 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.359 option routes based off of leverage and like things like that, 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.279 but like in terms of how they design their offenses, 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:29.439 I don't think it's a fair, uh categorization to say 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:31.640 that this is the same offense. That they were running 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:32.359 at twenty twenty one. 0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:34.319 No, it's definitely not. I mean they're related, you know, 0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:36.480 it's they're they're closer to each other than they are 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:37.600 to Patricia's offense. 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:38.360 Their cousins. 0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:40.319 Well, no, but I mean like they're close to each 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:42.400 other than they either one is to Patricia's offense, but 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:46.320 they're not. Yeah, they're not the same thing either their cousins. 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.120 It's like, you know, like when you talk about like languages, right, 0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:52.400 and it's like, you know, like English and French and languages. 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:56.359 It's like if you were speaking uh, you know, Italian. Yeah, 0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.680 but like sometimes like Northern Italians different than Southern Italian. 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:01.040 Like, I don't I even thought it was more different 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:02.360 than that. I was going to say. More, it's like, 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:06.239 you know, like French English, it's spand it they all 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:08.040 come from like the Saint they all come from Latin, right, 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:11.080 and then there's everyone it's called like other languages and 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:11.759 other parts of the world. 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:15.000 So you think that that they're both romance languages. 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.440 Right, But that's the term I'm looking for res Like, yeah, 0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.800 so they're in that same family, but they're different languages. 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.880 Yeah, I agree with that, And but I hear that 0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:25.719 a lot like that, Oh it's the same offense, Like, no, 0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.520 it's really not, it's really not. 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:29.399 And then it's this, now, all right, I'll say this 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.440 if it's if we're going to compare it to something 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.160 that and I don't think I'm breaking any news here. 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:37.520 The comparison to Mac Jones past is to Alabama, No, 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:38.279 to his rookie year. 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.120 Yeah, because that was the other thing I was about 0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.359 to say was that, you know, McDaniels doesn't run any 0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.480 of this college stuff, like he doesn't run. Yeah, he 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.560 doesn't run any of that kind of stuff as much 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.319 I should. You know, it's in his playbook, but he 0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.840 doesn't really. He told me in twenty one. I remember 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.040 asking him about it and he said, we don't major 0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:55.960 in RP. 0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:57.560 He was like, mad, at you've asked. 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.200 Well, I mean, it was ridiculous that they weren't running them. 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.520 I love the guy, but like, yeah, this quarter this 0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:05.200 RPO quarterback that lit it up on RPOs in college 0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:07.239 and they just never called them for Mac his rookie year. 0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:10.880 It was it was ridiculous. Anyways, I digress, but I 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:15.520 agree with Todd that that is a feather in O'Brien's 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.560 cap that I think O'Brien will continue to build this 0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:20.919 offense around Mac Jones, and I think he already has. 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.560 Like the fact that this offense didn't have a whole 0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.600 lot of deep shots in this game, I think was 0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.319 related to the offensive line, but I also think it's 0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:31.480 related to Mac Jones. I think that they know that 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:34.120 they're going to time up their deep shots, but they're 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.319 not necessarily going to be like we saw last year 0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.680 in the first six weeks of the season before Mac 0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:41.440 got hurt. I should say first three weeks of the 0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:45.040 season before Mac got hurt, it was bombs away, right, 0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:46.600 And they're definitely not going to be that kind of 0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:49.000 offense this year. So I agree that McDaniels are in, 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.759 O'Brien are different, and O'Brien, I think is I don't 0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:55.480 know if it's necessarily that O'Brien's changing his offense for Mac, 0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:59.839 but his offense is already almost pre built to fit 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.200 Mac and to fit what Max's done in the past 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.760 a little bit better. All right, let's go to Sean 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:06.160 and Vancouver. What's up Sean? 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:08.359 Hey Evan. 0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.840 First off, I'd like to say Shanatova. 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:14.920 To Alex too, both of us, right, Alex. 0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:15.719 Oh, both of you both. 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.399 I didn't even know Alex. I didn't realize you were 0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:19.480 Jewish as well. 0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.839 But yeah, really, okay, that's a compliment, I think. 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.480 No, I know, it's just most people. 0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:29.040 It's it's anyway, happy New Year, to thank you. 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:29.080 Thank you. 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.439 Okay. So, Evan, when I called in on Tuesday, didn't 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:35.200 get a chance or I wasn't able to respond when 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.280 you you were wondering why I was encouraged by today 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:42.080 you with your three points, you answered it. That's exactly why. 0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:45.840 And I don't have expectations that a lot of people 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:48.480 do for this season, like we've we've talked a lot 0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:52.480 during the off season about team construction and how disappointing 0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:56.359 that was. So I don't expect the Patriots to make 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.279 the playoffs. That's that's not where my my brain is. 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:02.839 But looks like you were saying earlier, you know, it's 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:09.480 encouraging without being a kind of a consolation prize of 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.759 not winning. You know, I'm just thinking like, okay, yeah, 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.360 we've seen this before. It doesn't always work, but maybe 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:19.799 it will this time. And that's where I am as 0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:22.759 a Patriots fan, Like if I were a Canadians fan, 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.400 I wouldn't even be there. Like in terms of the NHL, 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:27.960 I would just think, I'm going to wait for them 0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:30.920 to show me something because it's just too dismal to 0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:34.840 even bother with. But with the Patriots, it's I've always 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:37.520 been a Patriots fan, even back in the nineties when 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:39.960 you know, ninety and ninety one, ninety two, when it 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:44.840 was terrible. It's it's just what I do. So I 0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.440 have to be encouraged and these are the signs. In 0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:52.360 last year it was just a total mess, And like 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.680 what you said with Bob, it's it looks like, okay, 0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.759 there is some structure, we can make some headway and 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.000 things can move forward. So that's what I'm getting at. 0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:04.040 Yeah, no, that's great. On Tuesday August, just to give 0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:06.920 you context, thanks for the call, Sean, people were just 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:08.880 calling in and saying I still have hope, and I 0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.680 was like, can we just like add some context to 0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:13.640 your hope, like just saying that you have blind hope? 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.000 To me, it means nothing. 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.280 That's that's fan. I mean, we're ultimately rooting for laundry. 0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.239 But no, I think what the college just said is 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:21.759 exactly my point. Do you know what a Rars Shark 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:22.239 test is? 0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:22.920 Uh? 0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:27.000 No, So Rors Shark test does, yeah, green does? Yeah? 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:29.800 You know you know all right, it's an ink blot test. 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.799 Ink blot test. Okay, So it's like a psychology thing. 0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.359 So they have they have like you have like six 0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:37.759 or eight piece of paper that they just drop ink 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.560 on and they show me to you without any context, 0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:42.920 and you say, what you see. It's like looking at clouds, 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.919 and the idea is supposedly based off what people see 0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:49.440 in the ink, you kind of learn about who they 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:51.239 are as a person. You can learn about their personality. 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:53.839 This game, to me is a Rars Shark test. What 0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.759 you saw in it depends on and tells me about 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:57.600 what kind of fan you are. 0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.520 So you're basically saying I'm a I hate fun You're. 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.920 Like exactly or the other one. Just to flex my 0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.560 c and ap psych senior high school. You know, Schrodinger's 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:12.319 Cat is no. Schrodinger's Cat is this thought experiment that 0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:15.640 basically there's a cat in a box with like a 0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:19.520 little like like just basically the idea that if there's 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.040 a cat in a box with poison, you don't know 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:23.759 if the cat is alive. Or dead until you open 0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:28.600 the box. And the like philosophical thing behind that is so, 0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:31.880 until you open the box, the cat is both simultaneously 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.839 alive and dead. If that makes sense, both things are true, right, 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.319 both things are true. So this game in some ways 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:39.200 Schrodinger's game, because we don't know, we don't have the 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:43.680 box open. Is this because it does both look like 0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:46.480 that's as much again I got to see in the classes, 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:49.719 as far as I'm gonna go, that's absolutely they do. 0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:52.600 Somebody in the chat said one p sych course in college, 0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:56.239 try one side course in high school. This game, it 0:56:56.360 --> 0:57:02.120 is both simultaneously the first step under Bill O'Brien and 0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:05.160 in that bubbles and encouraging first step. It is also 0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:08.000 the continuation of the post Tom Brady hour in the 0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:11.279 last four years and until we take the lid off 0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:15.280 the box play more football games. I think both interpretations 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.960 for now are correct. And if you want to call 0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:19.520 that a cop out, call it a cop out. It 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:22.600 probably is a little bit. But like I can't you 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:24.240 know how I am. I'm gonna sit here and tell 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:26.480 you what I believe. If you make a valid argument, 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:28.640 even if I disagree with it, if you back it 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.440 up I'm going to agree with you. I think you 0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.880 could make either argument in a way that I would agree. 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:37.440 We talk, we were arguing to the other night. I said, yes, 0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:41.440 you're not wrong. They haven't proven they can win that game, 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:42.800 and I am gonna need to see him do it. 0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:46.000 But at the same time, a team with a first 0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:48.800 year roc with a young quarterback doing what they did 0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:52.800 against that defense, well, it certainly wasn't enough for week 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:54.840 one to say this is the floor you have, this 0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:58.200 is what you're building on in theory. In theory, yes, 0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:00.560 Week one is your worst perform So. 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.439 But this is I guess. This is where I come 0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:06.160 from with it, is that I knew this was their 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:08.640 floor going into the year, so I didn't learn anything new. 0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:10.760 I knew, okay, but you're. 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:12.880 Almost acting like this is closer to the ceiling than 0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:13.320 the floor. 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.720 I suppose, like I guess that's where they just people. 0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.080 I think the way I look at it, and this is, 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.000 you know, kind of where I'm coming from with all 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.520 of it, is that I think this is a floor 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:29.960 football team. I think this football team is designed and 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:36.600 built to have the coaching and the operation and the 0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:41.360 program and all of this stuff put a good floor 0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.320 of eight or nine wins, and then they hope that 0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:46.280 you get it. You get a good bounce here, you 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.720 get a bounce there, you play a backup quarterback here, 0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:50.800 you play a backup quarterback there, and then all of 0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:52.800 a sudden, you're ten to eleven wins, right, Like you. 0:58:52.720 --> 0:59:01.520 Know, right. So, I think given the opponent, like I think, 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.280 a lot of people expect them to get stopped because 0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:03.760 the Eagles are. 0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:07.360 That's the other thing is I didn't so going into 0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:11.400 this game, I picked Eagles twenty seven Patriots twenty. 0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:14.960 I think the Eagles were top two teams even if 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:16.560 you want to go beyond the romantics of that. The 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:18.760 Eagles were top four team in the nflast year. 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:22.040 But but, but, but but you have to put this 0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:26.120 in context. The Eagles did not play a soul in 0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:27.560 the preseason. 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:29.400 And because the Patriots played so much. 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:35.280 But I'm saying that all the trends of the Patriots 0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:39.720 being at home on Tom Brady's return against a raigning 0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:44.000 Super Bowl loser that did not play anybody in the 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:47.200 preseason told you that the Eagles were probably not going 0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:50.320 to be firing at all cylinders to come out here 0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:51.240 and blow. 0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:53.680 Down when teams used to come in here and it 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:56.600 was close. Even though the Patriots won, we would say, oh, 0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:59.560 it's a scrappy team. That team might be building something. 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:01.640 Patriots are just on the other side of that. Now, 1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:05.160 that's all that is. I think being five points worse 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:07.440 and the defending NFC champion does carry some weight with 1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:09.480 a lot of people. Whether you think that's fair or not, 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:11.560 kind of gets to my point of the game is 1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:12.560 whatever you want to. 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.640 But my only point of of all this and then 1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:19.360 we're getting bogged down and classically in an argument that 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:20.280 we're not going I think. 1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.240 That's what people want to hear after you've lost your 1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:24.760 mind on Tuesday. Apparently I didn't even hear it. 1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:26.400 I say, did you even listen to the show? 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:26.600 No? 1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:27.280 But I had not. 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.920 Even on Twitter. I had friends texting me asking if 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:32.360 you were okay because it was so I can only 1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:33.640 imagine it was spectacular. 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:35.280 It was spectacular. I'm proud of it. 1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:37.120 So I think this is what people want to hear. 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:38.160 Against Bill Belichick. 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:38.680 Uh. 1:00:39.320 --> 1:00:44.520 Here's the thing that my whole thing I think coming 1:00:44.560 --> 1:00:48.439 into this game was I thought that the Eagles would 1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:51.040 be a little bit rusty. I thought that the Patriots 1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:53.240 would keep this close because of all the things I 1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:58.720 just laid out, So just being competitive, I expected them. 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:04.400 Okay, being five points worse than the Eagles is you know, 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:06.480 how many points better are the Eagles involvement? 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:09.760 But they're not five points worse than the Eagles team 1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:11.880 that took the field in the Super Bowl in February. 1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:14.880 They're five points worse than an Eagles team that essentially 1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:16.240 treated this game as a preseason. 1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:19.280 Okay, but they're going to grow. It's not like they're 1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:21.160 not going to have opportunities to improve either. 1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:23.520 I get it. I'm just saying that the reason why 1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:25.440 I came into the game thinking that it's going to 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:27.680 be a one score game to begin with was because 1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:30.200 of all of the trends with the Eagles, right, and 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:31.640 so I didn't expect. 1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:33.000 But the Patriots don't get trends. 1:01:33.160 --> 1:01:35.000 Is kind of like, because my point is that I 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:36.960 don't think I think a lot of people, like you 1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:39.400 kind of said a few minutes ago, a lot of 1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:41.160 people thought the Patriots are going to get blown out 1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:41.600 in this game. 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:45.040 I never felt that way, even when even when we 1:01:45.120 --> 1:01:47.000 got the inter report and Mike and went and Cole 1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:49.160 Strange weren't playing and Devonte Parker was ruled out. 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:52.680 I was more I was a little bit concerned at 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:55.560 that point, but I still didn't think the Eagles would 1:01:55.560 --> 1:01:58.240 have the execution offensively to run away with it because 1:01:58.240 --> 1:02:02.960 of how little those guys did in August. And that's 1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:05.120 just you know. I think Reese put it in his 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:06.800 Sunday notes coming into the. 1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:09.080 I think what we've unlocked here is not that you're 1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:11.720 being too estimatetic. You may have been being too optimistic. 1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:15.360 Maybe I think that's the real problem here, is we've 1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:18.560 launched it was it was a combination of of my 1:02:18.680 --> 1:02:20.760 expectations coming into the game, where maybe a little bit 1:02:20.800 --> 1:02:23.400 higher than other people, because I thought the Patriots would 1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:26.280 compete in the game to begin with. I think the 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:29.320 reason why is I said the trends. But I also 1:02:29.680 --> 1:02:31.720 mention I think the Patriots are going to compete in 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:34.040 a lot of games because they have that floor. Their 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:37.320 coaching is good. Their coaching is good, and I want 1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:40.080 to talk about the defense who coached their butts off 1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:43.320 on that side of the ball against the Eagles. Their 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:46.760 coaching is good. They have good coaching, So they're going 1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:49.640 to be a floor team because of that they're not 1:02:49.720 --> 1:02:53.320 going to stink because they're coaching is really really sound 1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:56.479 on both sides of the football. So I can't thought, 1:02:56.520 --> 1:02:58.840 coming in along with the fact that I thought the 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.200 Patriots are going to hang in there against most teams 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:04.200 this year, that the Patriots would be close in this 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:07.439 game against Philadelphia. And that's exactly what happened. And as 1:03:07.480 --> 1:03:11.120 the game was ending live, we sat talked to him 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:13.240 about this on Tuesday, so Marine can back me up. 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:17.080 Deuce and Paul were saying, they're gonna win the game. Patriots. Yeah, 1:03:17.080 --> 1:03:18.920 they're gonna drive in, They're gonna win the game, and 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:22.880 I kept on saying, no, they're not. Just just wait, 1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:23.200 I was. 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:24.640 I was with you on that. I was sitting next 1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:27.080 to my cad like, and right after the jabill peppersonly goes, 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:28.320 do you think they're gonna win? And I'm like, they 1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:30.200 can win, but they haven't won this game in like 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:31.200 four years, right. 1:03:31.080 --> 1:03:33.480 And it's so that was that was the beginning of 1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:36.880 my turn. Was I had to write the same story 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:38.480 that I've been writing for for four years. 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:41.200 So that's my point is where I wonder if you're 1:03:41.240 --> 1:03:43.400 over correcting a bit, And because because I like I 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:46.520 told you, I told you I wrote three. 1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:49.520 Separate therapy session. Now, like, what's really I I. 1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:52.360 Wrote three separate post game calls because the one thing 1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:54.439 about covering a week one game, and there's a lot 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:56.720 like covering week one is very different than covering any 1:03:56.760 --> 1:03:59.120 other game, just to pull back the curtain a little bit, 1:03:59.160 --> 1:04:02.400 because you have so many preconceived notions going in. And 1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:05.200 like the example I always give is in twenty twenty, 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:07.000 remember when Mike when when who came out started playing 1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:09.320 right tackle, hadn't played right tackle at all in camp 1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:11.440 even yeah, and he was amazing at it. And that's like, 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:14.560 you never have to adjust to seeing something like you 1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:17.600 do in week one. Every it's all unexpected. You're on 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:19.160 your toes. Sometimes you go into a game, you have 1:04:19.160 --> 1:04:21.480 an idea of kind of what you're gonna talk about postgame, 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:23.800 and it's like, well, you know, I know, I'm gonna 1:04:23.800 --> 1:04:25.400 focus on this one thing and if it goes this way, 1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:27.439 I'll do this, because that will do that whatever. Week 1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:29.320 ones the one time you can't really do that. The 1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:32.080 one thing you do not expect covering a week one game, Evan, 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:35.480 is to have to worry that you're gonna be repeating yourself, 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:39.440 and that was my thing. After the game, I was like, 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:41.480 because how many times last year did I have to 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:45.000 write and you and everybody that stupid column that was 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:47.640 like it was it's been the story of the year, 1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:49.320 or here we go again, and I'm running out of 1:04:49.360 --> 1:04:53.640 synonyms for late game failure or whatever, and I'm sitting here, 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:56.480 it's like it's week one and I'm having deja vu, 1:04:56.840 --> 1:04:59.439 like this shouldn't be a thing. And I think that's 1:04:59.480 --> 1:05:02.360 where some of the issue in breaking down this game 1:05:02.400 --> 1:05:05.800 comes in, is because you shouldn't be repetitive week one, 1:05:06.320 --> 1:05:09.240 and yet here we are. This game might have as 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:11.680 well have been played as Week nineteen of the twenty 1:05:11.720 --> 1:05:15.400 twenty two season. It would have fitted playing It looked 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:16.920 a little weak, not you get what I'm saying, Like 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:19.960 it looked different, the O'Brien and Patricia stuff. It looked different. 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:22.600 But the game flow, the game story, it was like, yeah, 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:25.720 I've written this before, right, And that was kind of 1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:28.960 jarrings because you don't expect to do that in week one. 1:05:28.920 --> 1:05:30.960 And what I keep coming back to and I'm going 1:05:31.040 --> 1:05:32.520 to keep her. I don't care if I sound like 1:05:32.560 --> 1:05:36.640 a broken record. It looked better it looked sharper, the 1:05:36.640 --> 1:05:40.200 play designs were nicer, it looked prettier, it looked better. 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:43.840 But the talent level is the same on offense. The 1:05:43.880 --> 1:05:46.680 talent level is the same. So when it came. 1:05:46.560 --> 1:05:48.880 Out, all right, I would push back on that, it's 1:05:48.880 --> 1:05:50.600 not the same. I don't know that it's good enough, 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:53.280 but it's not the same. It's the same. They have 1:05:53.440 --> 1:05:58.240 Tomorrow Douglas. Now, okay, they but they have Ezekiel Elliott. 1:05:58.240 --> 1:06:01.360 I know it's Tomorrio Douglas beter than Jacobe Myers because 1:06:01.680 --> 1:06:04.040 Juju wasn't on the field, So I can't you can't, Okay. 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:06.000 Well, I mean I'm more so talking about like, you know, 1:06:06.000 --> 1:06:08.760 they're not throwing Nelson Agler out there, They're not throwing 1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:09.680 a kil Harry out there. 1:06:09.920 --> 1:06:13.600 Okay, Yeah, their receivers are better than they were two years. 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:15.240 But maybe it's a wash in some of the other 1:06:15.240 --> 1:06:16.800 they didn't have their offensive line, right, maybe it's a 1:06:16.840 --> 1:06:18.320 wash in some of the other direct The talent. 1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:21.520 Level is in the same ballpark. You can tell me 1:06:21.640 --> 1:06:23.560 that this guy's a little bit better than that guy. 1:06:23.680 --> 1:06:25.400 That guy's a little bit better than this guy. But 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:26.760 at the end of the day, the talent's in the 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:29.840 same ballpark, and when it was fourth and three, when 1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:33.400 it was fourth in the game, they're just there's there's 1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:36.800 nobody to it doesn't Yeah, it doesn't happen, they don't. 1:06:36.880 --> 1:06:39.360 But it's again that's it goes back to my thing 1:06:39.400 --> 1:06:41.200 of like, I really didn't want to be repetitive covering 1:06:41.200 --> 1:06:43.760 this game. How many times in the spring and in 1:06:43.800 --> 1:06:46.440 the winter, and going back to last year the stupid 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:49.320 Tuesday meeting thing that we had to explain and the 1:06:49.360 --> 1:06:51.240 coverage dictating wide receiver, It's like. 1:06:51.400 --> 1:06:52.880 Fourth and three was the Tuesday meeting. 1:06:52.960 --> 1:06:58.200 It picked, right, it picked when's the last time? How 1:06:58.240 --> 1:07:00.680 often do we joke over the summer or when we're 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:03.360 covering OTAs or even during the drive we're talking about 1:07:03.360 --> 1:07:04.640 this now and watch we're gonna get to week one, 1:07:04.640 --> 1:07:06.320 We're gonna throw it all out, right. How many times 1:07:06.360 --> 1:07:07.919 do we kind of say that when we're talking about 1:07:07.920 --> 1:07:09.960 the team? Do you ever remember? And we've only been 1:07:09.960 --> 1:07:11.360 doing this for six years, but I think that's a 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:14.480 decent sample size. You remember the last time Week one? 1:07:14.520 --> 1:07:18.520 It was the takes from training camp to the game 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:19.920 were so seamless. 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:22.360 I think last year we knew the offense was a disaster. 1:07:22.880 --> 1:07:24.240 We didn't know it was that bad. I think we 1:07:24.280 --> 1:07:25.480 did okay, but it wasn't. 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:30.320 Maybe we didn't. We were still I'll speak for myself, 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:33.520 I was still rose colored glasses a little bit last year, 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:36.000 so maybe I didn't see it, but I think it 1:07:36.520 --> 1:07:38.400 was gonna be that bad. But I think that we 1:07:38.440 --> 1:07:39.200 should have seen that. 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:41.280 But there was also stuffs like they'd added Parker and 1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:43.880 it was like, okay, they've done that, and Remandre and 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:45.880 like I think he had a bigger role expected. 1:07:46.040 --> 1:07:48.400 We knew this. The system and the coaching. 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:50.520 Was but this was like, I mean, like the game 1:07:51.840 --> 1:07:54.040 could not have happened and the talking points would be 1:07:54.080 --> 1:07:56.000 exactly the same if we were just carrying on another 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:59.919 week from camp. Nothing changed, And that's weird for week one. 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:02.080 Usually week one changes things. 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:04.640 Okay, I'll give you that. All right, let's go back 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:06.800 to the phones. Mason's in Connecticut. What's up, Mason? 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:08.880 How you guys doing good? 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:09.520 Hey? 1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:11.240 All right, so I gotta get this out quick. I 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:13.760 actually have to leave in a second. But Evan, I 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:16.559 know that you're not a Kashan Boody guy, and I 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:19.000 get it. I understand. I agree with you that he 1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:20.120 didn't look great on Sunday. 1:08:20.160 --> 1:08:20.880 Okay, he made some. 1:08:20.840 --> 1:08:23.160 Mistake obviously, had the two pass, he didn't get his 1:08:23.160 --> 1:08:25.680 feet down. More importantly, I think on the second one 1:08:25.800 --> 1:08:27.560 last play of the game, I think he ran a 1:08:27.640 --> 1:08:29.320 lazy route. I think if he runs a stem hard 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:31.160 there and he sells vertical, I don't think Joe breaks 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:33.960 on it fast enough to push him out of bounds. However, 1:08:34.479 --> 1:08:36.479 for the guys starting in his first NFL game that 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:39.160 who was kind of playing out a position, Okay, I 1:08:39.160 --> 1:08:42.640 think there were times where he attacked leverage well. I 1:08:42.680 --> 1:08:44.640 think he looked like he was thinking out there a 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:47.800 lot of times. I think he showed explosiveness off line 1:08:47.800 --> 1:08:49.840 of scrimmage a few times, which was a question mark 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:52.800 for him coming into this season. I think specifically on 1:08:52.800 --> 1:08:55.240 one of the touchdowns of Kendrick Bourne, he was running 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:58.000 a curl on the right side of the formation and 1:08:58.040 --> 1:09:00.400 he looked explos off line of scrimmage. I think he 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:03.800 ran the stem hard, he had a good snapdown, a 1:09:03.840 --> 1:09:05.759 good trigger step, came out of it in three steps. 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:10.080 I think there were some things to feel good about 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:13.120 in this game for Kashan Booty, and I think he 1:09:13.160 --> 1:09:15.640 could be a guy and listen before I go, I 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:17.479 just want to let you guys know it's not too 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:20.160 late to get on the Kaishan Boody bandwag Okay, I 1:09:20.200 --> 1:09:22.800 want to personally invite you guys to the Kaishan Boody 1:09:22.800 --> 1:09:25.080 Bank Club. We call ourselves the Booty Clap Bandit. The 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:27.719 door is open the winner circle. Guys, all right, thank. 1:09:27.560 --> 1:09:29.880 You, Thanks, good call, Mason, good call. A lot of 1:09:29.880 --> 1:09:32.479 really good points about Kashan Booty. I agree with you 1:09:32.520 --> 1:09:35.840 wholeheartedly about the last route. Could have ran it faster, 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:37.679 could have ran it better. Yeah, I'm sure he feels 1:09:37.720 --> 1:09:39.760 the same way. I'm not breaking any news to him. 1:09:40.200 --> 1:09:44.080 Uh what he said about him playing out a position 1:09:44.640 --> 1:09:46.280 agree one percent. 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:48.200 Some we targed it they didn't have a second true x. 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:50.640 Yeah. And I wrote this in after further review that 1:09:50.680 --> 1:09:53.719 I actually don't hold anything against Kaishan Booty on Sunday 1:09:54.200 --> 1:09:55.160 for that exact reason. 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:56.679 Even though at the beginning of the show you said 1:09:56.680 --> 1:09:57.080 he was bad. 1:09:57.240 --> 1:09:58.800 I didn't say it was bad. I just said, like, 1:09:59.120 --> 1:10:01.559 you can't really give kaish On Boody like a pass. 1:10:02.040 --> 1:10:02.439 That's fair. 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:03.240 I No, it's fair. 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:05.760 I just like I mean, the film was the film, Like, 1:10:06.000 --> 1:10:09.320 you know, I agree with the caller that it wasn't hopeless, 1:10:09.640 --> 1:10:12.439 but I just felt like I wrote it in after 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:16.080 further review that I hold nothing against Kaishan Boody because 1:10:16.120 --> 1:10:18.040 to me, we've talked about this a lot with him, 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:21.080 even before they drafted him. He's a Z slot like, 1:10:21.160 --> 1:10:24.080 he's an inside player that had to be forced to 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:28.360 play on the outside because DeVante Parker's hurt Juju is 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:31.720 whatever and Tykwon Thwarton's on IR so they had no 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:35.280 other X receiver besides Kaishan Boody. They obviously weren't going 1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:37.800 to play Pop Douglas at the X, so it made 1:10:38.000 --> 1:10:39.599 all the sense in the world that it was Booty. 1:10:39.640 --> 1:10:41.800 We all thought it would be Booty coming into the game, 1:10:41.840 --> 1:10:44.120 and it was. And I agree with the caller one 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:46.439 hundred and ten percent that that's not on him that 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:48.760 he doesn't know how to to tap the sideline when 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:50.599 he's probably done it like six times in his life 1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:53.160 in a game, So I don't blame him at all 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:56.519 for it. I didn't necessarily see the explosiveness. Maybe I 1:10:56.600 --> 1:10:58.639 have to go back and watch some of his routes 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:01.320 that the caller talked about and I think that some 1:11:01.360 --> 1:11:03.720 of the route running was a little bit sloppy. So 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:06.800 that's where I come from with Booty. I don't mind 1:11:06.800 --> 1:11:06.960 do you. 1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:09.720 Think this route running in the second half specifically, I. 1:11:09.680 --> 1:11:12.559 Thought there was one route in particular where he tried 1:11:12.600 --> 1:11:14.880 to run an out and up and I thought that 1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:16.920 maybe he had a chance to get open on it 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:19.320 because he was single covered and he just didn't really 1:11:19.360 --> 1:11:21.639 sell it all that well and just kind of rolled 1:11:21.640 --> 1:11:23.719 into the defender and it was kind of pretty ugly. 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:27.280 That was late in the game. I actually thought looking 1:11:27.360 --> 1:11:29.200 back on it, and I'm sure it was a locked route, 1:11:29.200 --> 1:11:31.160 so I don't think he had like the eruption to like, 1:11:31.760 --> 1:11:33.719 if he had just hit like a three step slant, 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:35.479 I think it would have been more effective than what 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:36.280 he ended up doing. 1:11:36.520 --> 1:11:39.120 Okay, I'm just saying because I the first half, a 1:11:39.120 --> 1:11:41.519 lot of guys are slipping around with the rain. When 1:11:41.560 --> 1:11:42.920 I looked at the route running stuff like I did 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:44.880 this with Douglas too, I was just I really only 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:45.760 looked at the second half. 1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:48.599 Yeah, so I felt like some of his routes were 1:11:48.920 --> 1:11:52.960 not crisp and not really he doesn't to me, he 1:11:53.000 --> 1:11:56.600 doesn't have a ton of suddenness in his break or 1:11:56.680 --> 1:11:59.439 at the top of the route unless he's running he 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:04.360 is I can trying to be more positive. He is 1:12:04.400 --> 1:12:08.040 a great slant route runner. Yeah, he runs great slants, 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:11.599 but when he gets down the field eight twelve yard breaks, 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:16.120 there's just not a whole lot of sell or wiggle 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:18.559 to those types of routes. But if you're asking him 1:12:18.560 --> 1:12:20.639 to run a slant like we saw it in Green Bay, 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.880 he runs great slants, So maybe that's something to build 1:12:23.920 --> 1:12:26.920 off of. And I think it's comfortability too, Like you 1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:29.160 can tell that he's so comfortable running a three or 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:32.280 five step slant that it just looks explosive when he 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:34.720 does it because he's he runs that route like it's 1:12:34.760 --> 1:12:38.479 the back of his hand. I wasn't like overly like, 1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:40.840 oh my god, take him off the field with Kisehan Boody, 1:12:41.400 --> 1:12:44.320 But I just I feel like there's I don't know, 1:12:44.400 --> 1:12:46.479 I don't necessarily know if I see the twitch or 1:12:46.479 --> 1:12:50.080 the explosiveness to be a real dynamic receiver in the league. 1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:52.920 Can he be like a fourth or fifth receiver for 1:12:53.000 --> 1:12:56.960 his rookie contract. Absolutely, I think that we're at that point. 1:12:56.800 --> 1:12:58.840 And in the sixth round. Fine, Yeah, it's not like 1:12:58.840 --> 1:12:59.800 they took him top fifty. 1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:01.759 All right, Jeff is in Maine. What's up, Jeff? 1:13:03.120 --> 1:13:03.840 Hey, what's going on? 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:04.120 Guys? 1:13:04.160 --> 1:13:05.559 Hey? 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:08.559 So I had a couple of things. One, Alex, I 1:13:08.560 --> 1:13:13.360 got a college football player for you, Okay, Tristan keenan 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:20.519 Umane kind of like the true freshman. I don't I doubt, 1:13:20.600 --> 1:13:23.880 I mean from knowing means football team historically, I doubt 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:25.600 he's an NFL talent. But he's kind of like a 1:13:25.640 --> 1:13:31.640 faster Rex Burkhead. He's fun to watch, okay. And so 1:13:32.320 --> 1:13:34.960 the thing for the Pats, And I know you guys 1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:39.120 wanted to transition to defense against personnel like Miami, and 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:41.479 I know that this show has always been a proponent 1:13:41.520 --> 1:13:43.720 of playing Marte Mapu at the second level, and I 1:13:43.800 --> 1:13:48.320 have two He played well at safety the first game, 1:13:48.360 --> 1:13:51.920 I thought, But I think with this game, and I'm 1:13:51.920 --> 1:13:55.240 curious what you guys think, it makes more sense to 1:13:55.280 --> 1:13:58.639 me to keep him at the second level because I 1:13:58.680 --> 1:14:02.720 think if your linebackers are and obviously their past game 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:05.720 is incredible, but I think if your linebackers are to 1:14:05.920 --> 1:14:12.719 buy and Bentley, Raheem Moster and Devin and Shane are 1:14:12.760 --> 1:14:17.360 just gonna absolutely run away from them, and I think 1:14:17.360 --> 1:14:19.040 that would be a problem. And so I think that 1:14:20.000 --> 1:14:25.600 you know what, the true secondary players handle the receivers 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:29.479 and you know, move him to the second level to 1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:32.840 try to stop those running backs from absolutely eating you alive. 1:14:32.920 --> 1:14:36.240 Thanks guys, Yeah, that's an interesting point, Thanks Jeff, And 1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:39.160 I did want to transition here to the Dolphins for 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:42.000 the last half hour of the show and preview the 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:45.519 Dolphins a little bit. This is a this is the 1:14:45.560 --> 1:14:48.400 conundrum for the Patriots with the Dolphins and the Patriots defense. 1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:55.519 In my opinion, you have to put a ton of 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:58.800 help on Tyreek Hill. So if you're gonna help a 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:01.479 ton to Tyreek Hill, and I I say help because 1:15:01.479 --> 1:15:04.920 I don't love calling it a double team, Like I 1:15:04.920 --> 1:15:08.040 don't think it's like necessarily a double team. But at 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:11.680 the very very least, the post safety has to be 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:14.920 dedicated to number ten, right, Like the post safety has 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:17.200 to have eyes on number ten at all times. That's 1:15:17.240 --> 1:15:19.120 just the bottom line, because it's not fair to Jonathan 1:15:19.160 --> 1:15:21.120 Jones to leave him out there on an island against 1:15:21.200 --> 1:15:24.640 Hill all the time. So here's the conundrum, right for 1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:27.880 the Patriots in this game. And I'm curious about your 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:29.479 take on this, because we had a lot of people, 1:15:29.520 --> 1:15:32.160 Alex that called into the show last week, and I 1:15:32.200 --> 1:15:33.960 know a lot of people on my Twitter I'm sure 1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:37.360 your twitter feed as well that were not confident in 1:15:38.160 --> 1:15:41.840 leaving Christian Gonzales one on one with AJ Brown in 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:45.519 Sunday's game. Yeah, and they did for the most part, 1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:49.920 and he held up pretty well. So different type of 1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:55.120 receiver with Jalen Waddle. Yeah, And that's the question, are 1:15:55.160 --> 1:16:01.000 you confident in Gonzales? I would think, or maybe it's 1:16:01.000 --> 1:16:03.639 Marcus Jones if you want the speed on speed matchup, 1:16:03.680 --> 1:16:09.680 but either one taking Wattle, it's never truly on an 1:16:09.720 --> 1:16:16.920 island but without the real resource, right yeah? Or are 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:20.040 you emptying the box? And if most of it was 1:16:20.080 --> 1:16:21.719 a d MP yesterday, I don't know if he's gonna 1:16:21.720 --> 1:16:24.599 play in this game. A shame's a fast running back, 1:16:24.680 --> 1:16:27.000 like the caller said, explosive guy ran like a four 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:30.760 three eight or something like that. Really speed guy. Are 1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:34.080 you either empty the box and whatever they get to 1:16:34.160 --> 1:16:36.360 the backs of the backfield, the run game, all that 1:16:36.439 --> 1:16:41.120 kind of stuff you live with or you live with 1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:43.960 being one on one on Wattley. 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:46.840 I let him run the ball, me too. I let 1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:49.240 him beat your running the ball. And look, I maybe 1:16:49.280 --> 1:16:51.840 I'm I'm being too optimistic here. And Evan, I know 1:16:51.880 --> 1:16:53.800 you think Sunday's performance should go down as one of 1:16:53.840 --> 1:16:56.479 the worst in Patriots history. But I liked what I saw. 1:16:56.880 --> 1:16:59.320 I liked what I saw from the defensive line. And 1:16:59.680 --> 1:17:03.879 I'm not saying you're going to shut them down without 1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:08.160 additional players in the box against the run. But is 1:17:08.200 --> 1:17:09.479 their offensive line that great? 1:17:09.720 --> 1:17:10.600 I don't, especially not. 1:17:12.120 --> 1:17:15.559 Out there right, So give me you know, Keon White, 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:18.360 Christian Barmore really good game, probably better run game than 1:17:18.400 --> 1:17:18.800 pass game. 1:17:18.880 --> 1:17:21.800 Christian Barmer had a sneaky good game. It wasn't a 1:17:21.880 --> 1:17:22.640 game you like. 1:17:22.960 --> 1:17:25.320 It was a classic Christian Barmore game. Because people always 1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:27.599 complain that he doesn't have enough stats, but he's always 1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:31.160 like the jude On sack early is a perfect example. 1:17:32.280 --> 1:17:33.000 He's right there. 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:35.519 He created that even though he didn't get stat Give 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:38.200 me Christian Barmore, give me key On White, give me 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:41.320 uh Tetrick Wise would a good game minus the penalties, 1:17:41.320 --> 1:17:44.559 which were big. It doesn't, but right Juwan Bentley, give 1:17:44.600 --> 1:17:47.200 me those guys up front, those four I think they 1:17:47.240 --> 1:17:50.120 do enough. If you're going to give them the run 1:17:50.200 --> 1:17:53.000 and basically put those four guys sort of on an 1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:57.880 island against the run and put the resources in the secondary. Again, 1:17:58.200 --> 1:17:59.640 you're not gonna shut him down. It's not like you're 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:01.519 going to run for like three yards to carry. But 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:04.440 I think that keeps it very manageable. 1:18:04.520 --> 1:18:06.040 Yeah, so they're gonna they're gonna play a lot of 1:18:06.120 --> 1:18:08.240 zone in this game. I guarantee it. They're gonna play 1:18:08.240 --> 1:18:10.000 a lot of soft zone and they're gonna try to 1:18:10.080 --> 1:18:13.040 keep the top on the defense. Yeah. Cover two quarters like, 1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:15.840 they'll mix that in Cover three, they're gonna play a 1:18:15.880 --> 1:18:19.160 ton of zone. Uh when they go to man or 1:18:20.120 --> 1:18:23.360 basically man. There's two coverages that I think that that 1:18:23.720 --> 1:18:26.040 exist that I think would be good in this matchup. 1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:28.160 One is what they used last year, which is one 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:32.400 cross It's one robber, but the robber is looking for 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:35.559 the crosser from the passing string, and when he picks 1:18:35.680 --> 1:18:39.000 up the crosser, the man coverage defender on the receiver 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:41.840 drops off and becomes the new robber. He replaces him 1:18:41.840 --> 1:18:43.760 in the middle of the field in the coverage. So 1:18:44.040 --> 1:18:48.759 that takes away things like a crosser with a dig 1:18:48.960 --> 1:18:52.040 from the outside, because now that defender that falls off 1:18:52.120 --> 1:18:54.160 is gonna fall off into the dig window, so you 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:56.519 can take away both things. So they did that a 1:18:56.560 --> 1:18:58.840 lot because this Miami team, just like when they played 1:18:58.920 --> 1:19:02.360 Kansas City with Tyreek Hill, they know that they're gonna 1:19:02.439 --> 1:19:04.960 run crossing routes. It's either're gonna be Hill or waddle, 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:08.320 but somebody is running across or I guarantee it, so 1:19:08.439 --> 1:19:10.840 they're gonna They could do that. They could play one 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:12.920 cross and they could cut off the crossing route and 1:19:12.920 --> 1:19:14.840 then have the post safety over the top to help 1:19:14.880 --> 1:19:17.519 the Tyreek. Uh. The other thing that they could do 1:19:18.520 --> 1:19:21.120 is play a Saban coverage, which is called cover seven. 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:25.559 Cover seven is too high safety and each safety is 1:19:25.600 --> 1:19:29.160 bracketing a different guy, so they can actually double team 1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:30.280 both players. 1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:30.599 Right. 1:19:31.120 --> 1:19:33.800 The problem with cover seven is that you'll give up 1:19:33.800 --> 1:19:35.280 two hundred yards on the ground if you. 1:19:35.200 --> 1:19:38.840 Play what runs against like Kiffen and Yeah in those. 1:19:38.800 --> 1:19:40.640 Saban loves it. He runs it a lot more in 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:42.639 college because of obvious differences. 1:19:42.880 --> 1:19:45.520 He runs it against the teams Yeah. 1:19:45.200 --> 1:19:49.479 And they So basically you will have a cone bracket 1:19:49.520 --> 1:19:52.080 is what they call it, an inside out bracket on 1:19:52.439 --> 1:19:56.080 both Wattle and Hill. You can call that on like 1:19:56.120 --> 1:19:58.160 third and long because you know they're not gonna run it. 1:19:58.600 --> 1:20:00.160 But if you call that on first down and then 1:20:00.160 --> 1:20:03.479 they're gonna run for two hundred yards, does it matter 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:06.360 if they run for two hundred yards. I'm not necessarily 1:20:06.439 --> 1:20:08.200 sold it matters. 1:20:08.240 --> 1:20:10.400 So it as long as the game's close, it doesn't 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:12.080 matter if you let them if they get a multi 1:20:12.160 --> 1:20:15.760 score lead, of course, right. But no, I if the 1:20:15.800 --> 1:20:18.760 ball's not in Tira Killing Jalen Waddle's hands and the 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:20.519 other you can't get beat on the RPOs. That's the 1:20:20.560 --> 1:20:23.280 other thing on these coverages you're describing. Go to that. 1:20:24.800 --> 1:20:27.559 If the ball's not in those guys' hands, let them 1:20:27.600 --> 1:20:29.120 run the ball up and down the field. The other 1:20:29.160 --> 1:20:31.559 thing I've noticed about to him this is I'm debuting 1:20:31.600 --> 1:20:33.160 this take here, so I don't know, feel free to 1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:39.479 push back. I don't want to put this. Do you remember, 1:20:40.560 --> 1:20:42.320 I don't know when you stopped playing two K, but 1:20:43.720 --> 1:20:45.360 they put a thing in where like players are like 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:48.160 different badges, so it was like not overalls. Okay, do 1:20:48.200 --> 1:20:51.080 you remember the microwave badge? So it was like certain 1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:54.519 players if you kept shooting with them, they'd get better. 1:20:54.840 --> 1:20:56.320 But if you only took a shot with them. Every 1:20:56.360 --> 1:20:58.880 once in a while they'd actually play worse. Two was 1:20:58.960 --> 1:21:01.040 kind of a microwave faster. I like that a little 1:21:01.040 --> 1:21:03.559 bit like this when he how many pass take? How 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:05.160 many passes did he throw last week? I don't know 1:21:05.160 --> 1:21:07.479 the exact number it was, It was a lot. Yeah, 1:21:07.960 --> 1:21:09.559 I want to actually find the exact number. And I 1:21:09.560 --> 1:21:11.840 think that's part of the reason. Yeah, through forty five 1:21:11.840 --> 1:21:14.000 passes last year. I think that's part of the reason 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:15.960 he played so well is because he can get in 1:21:16.040 --> 1:21:18.519 that rhythm where it's drop back pass, drop back pass, 1:21:18.600 --> 1:21:23.040 drop back pass. If you're forcing them to run the ball, 1:21:23.560 --> 1:21:26.000 not just call runs, but also hand the ball off 1:21:26.040 --> 1:21:29.360 on those RPOs. He's not a guy that throws great 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:32.519 when he's cold. If it's the fifth, sixth, seventh play 1:21:32.520 --> 1:21:33.880 of a drive and he's thrown a pass for the 1:21:33.880 --> 1:21:36.720 first time, this is a very good take. I don't 1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:38.720 have any numbers to back this up, unfortunately, it's just 1:21:38.720 --> 1:21:41.200 something I've noticed. But this is that you've noticed that, 1:21:41.600 --> 1:21:42.760 so you've noticed that from him too. 1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:47.120 It anecdotally it sounds great. Also, I'm sorry they're showing 1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:49.120 Brady on this TV right now. Oh yeah, And my 1:21:49.120 --> 1:21:52.439 favorite part of this entire thing is just watch Stacy 1:21:52.720 --> 1:21:56.760 the whole time, just panicking that the second half is 1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:59.360 about to start and they need to get off Brady 1:21:59.400 --> 1:22:02.439 off the field, and CBS is just like refusing to 1:22:02.479 --> 1:22:05.080 get him off the field. I will get he was 1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:07.840 just on the screen and I we both love Stacey. 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:10.320 It's hilarious to watch him just like be like, we 1:22:10.360 --> 1:22:12.960 gotta go, we gotta go, you gotta go. We'll get 1:22:12.960 --> 1:22:14.360 to Brady in a second. I do want to end 1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:16.320 the show with our takes on on the on the 1:22:16.360 --> 1:22:20.640 Brady stuff. Uh, it's a really anecdotally. I feel like 1:22:20.640 --> 1:22:22.400 you're right. So I don't even I don't have any 1:22:22.439 --> 1:22:23.000 numbers either. 1:22:23.160 --> 1:22:25.760 I don't know what the numbers would be to back 1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:29.120 that up, because his is him throwing a lot of passes. 1:22:29.160 --> 1:22:32.080 Doesn't like, Yeah, it could be it was intermittent early 1:22:32.120 --> 1:22:33.800 and now they're behind so they have no choice but 1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:37.120 to throw. But like, I feel like he needs to 1:22:37.120 --> 1:22:38.960 get in a rhythm. And when he gets in a rhythm, 1:22:39.200 --> 1:22:40.759 and it makes sense with all those kind of short 1:22:40.760 --> 1:22:42.800 crossing patterns, yeah, it's all very repeatable. 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.840 He throws that. So they want him and this is 1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:48.719 the challenge and what what made that game so good 1:22:49.479 --> 1:22:52.720 against the Chargers was that he wants to throw the 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:54.600 inbreakers to the middle of the field right, so a 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:58.040 lot like Mac Jones in that sense, crossing routes, dig rats, 1:22:58.080 --> 1:23:00.559 slant routes like that's too a, that's that's his bread 1:23:00.560 --> 1:23:04.040 and butter. What made this game unique against the Chargers, 1:23:04.040 --> 1:23:06.120 and I know that I've kind of gushed about to 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:08.320 it today, but he was really freaking good in this game. 1:23:08.960 --> 1:23:11.120 What made him really good in this game was the 1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:17.280 fact that he was able to come off the crossers 1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:19.559 and off the slants and hit the second and third 1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:22.240 read in the progression just as well as he normally 1:23:22.280 --> 1:23:24.680 hits the slants right like he he made a throw. 1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:26.839 I know, Ben Solak like broke it down on Twitter 1:23:27.320 --> 1:23:30.000 where they take away the incut and he comes off 1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:32.200 the incut and hits a wheel to Tyreek kill on 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:32.800 the second reads. 1:23:32.880 --> 1:23:35.280 Well, the other thing about is he's this has been 1:23:35.280 --> 1:23:37.120 my long standing take onto it. You know this he 1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:39.519 essentially had to relearn how to throw a football because 1:23:39.520 --> 1:23:42.360 he hit injury. I feel like he's kind of gotten there. 1:23:42.479 --> 1:23:44.439 I feel like he threw the ball with as much 1:23:44.560 --> 1:23:45.960 zip on it as I've ever seen him throw. 1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:48.000 Well, that's what I'm saying, Like he people don't realize 1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:50.679 he had to rebuild his mechanics from the ground up, 1:23:51.120 --> 1:23:55.240 like in the NFL. That is a massive task. Yeah, 1:23:55.280 --> 1:23:56.880 he was really good in this game, and I feel 1:23:56.920 --> 1:23:57.920 like he's kind of gotten there. 1:23:58.000 --> 1:24:01.679 So that's the thing with two. But the reason why 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:04.680 I love your take so much is because that's the 1:24:04.760 --> 1:24:08.160 type of thing that Bill will notice if Bill notices 1:24:08.920 --> 1:24:13.920 to Bill's great at noticing one, Like where's your heat map? Like, 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:16.160 where's like the hot areas of the field that you 1:24:16.280 --> 1:24:19.080 love throwing to, like a like a batter in baseball? Right, 1:24:19.560 --> 1:24:22.720 where do I pitch to you? So with Tua, he's 1:24:22.720 --> 1:24:24.599 gonna take away the middle of the field. We can 1:24:24.640 --> 1:24:26.679 guarantee that he's gonna take away the middle of the field, 1:24:26.680 --> 1:24:29.120 and he's gonna take away Tyreek Hill, and he's gonna 1:24:29.280 --> 1:24:32.639 he's gonna be he's gonna force you to play left handed 1:24:32.680 --> 1:24:35.320 from that perspective, and or should say right handed. I 1:24:35.360 --> 1:24:38.000 guess he's going to force two to play right handed 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:40.599 in that respect. He's not gonna let him throw the slants. 1:24:40.600 --> 1:24:42.479 He's not gonna let him throw the crosses. He's not 1:24:42.479 --> 1:24:44.920 gonna let him throw to number ten, Like that's gonna 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:51.519 be the game plan. So that take you just had 1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:53.519 is like something that Bill would notice too, in the 1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:57.360 sense that, well, if we if we don't let him 1:24:57.360 --> 1:24:59.720 throw the ball early and we like it, make him 1:24:59.720 --> 1:25:02.560 handed off or we take I would like, well, I 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:04.400 almost wonder if they take the ball now, you know 1:25:04.400 --> 1:25:06.120 what I mean, like if we keep them cold. 1:25:06.280 --> 1:25:10.200 It's not even that it's like because it's not so 1:25:10.240 --> 1:25:11.280 much like going to the bench and all that. I 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:12.000 guess maybe it is. 1:25:12.040 --> 1:25:12.360 I don't know. 1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:13.200 I just feel like. 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:15.599 If he's probably ways to keep them cold. 1:25:15.479 --> 1:25:17.439 He's probably not alone in this. But it's more like 1:25:18.080 --> 1:25:21.280 if they go run run now it's third and eight, Yeah, 1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:24.439 I feel like that versus like if he threw the 1:25:24.479 --> 1:25:28.560 first two right, that kind of thing, right, And I 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:32.880 wonder if you just you basically don't it's it's their offense. 1:25:33.360 --> 1:25:35.040 I know people are gonna hate this take because it's 1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:38.800 all complex and you know, cutting edge whatever. It's a 1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:41.840 little repetitive from the quarterback position. Like you said, it's 1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:44.800 just it's slant incut, slant in cut, and it's three 1:25:44.840 --> 1:25:48.760 step back foot throw, three step back Mechanically mentally there's 1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:51.120 a lot going on, but for the quarterback in that offense, 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:54.360 it's very mechanically repetitive. I think when you so, maybe 1:25:54.360 --> 1:25:56.400 this is more about the offense than it is two. Yeah, 1:25:56.520 --> 1:25:58.519 I guess I kind of talked through this take here. 1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:02.280 I think that if you let him get into that rhythm, 1:26:02.720 --> 1:26:05.880 he's gonna start feeling it and it just sort of becomes. 1:26:05.600 --> 1:26:08.720 Well, second, interesting to see what they do, because I 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:10.439 think that there's like a bunch of different ways you 1:26:10.479 --> 1:26:13.560 could obviously go about it. But like if the Patriots 1:26:13.680 --> 1:26:16.639 empty the box and ask them to run the ball, 1:26:16.880 --> 1:26:19.240 that would be one sign. If the Patriots come after 1:26:19.320 --> 1:26:21.680 him early, I think that's another sign of like, let's 1:26:21.760 --> 1:26:24.040 rattle him, let's get him off his game early by 1:26:24.040 --> 1:26:27.240 pressuring them. That's another sign that that maybe they feel 1:26:27.280 --> 1:26:30.120 the same way. And I also wonder about like mcdaniels's 1:26:30.520 --> 1:26:35.559 McDaniels McDaniels uh script, Like does he does he throw early? 1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:39.400 Like they're a pretty aggressive throwing team. They Yeah, so 1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:42.080 that you know Daniel does want to run? Yeah, you 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:44.640 know those stats that are like you know, over expected, 1:26:44.640 --> 1:26:46.400 like how often they throw the ball and downs and 1:26:46.439 --> 1:26:49.040 distances over expected. He pulls his eyes. 1:26:49.400 --> 1:26:50.200 Uh, stupid. 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:52.559 They're they're always like near the top of the league 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:56.160 and the so so it's like Buffalo Kansas City like teams. 1:26:55.960 --> 1:26:57.960 Well and especially like if they don't have most are 1:26:58.200 --> 1:27:01.080 even more reason for them to keep it in here. 1:27:01.080 --> 1:27:03.320 All right, let's get back to the calls. It's Forward 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:04.920 in Georgia. What's up Forward? 1:27:06.720 --> 1:27:11.639 Hey, alex Evan, how are you guys doing. I love 1:27:11.680 --> 1:27:14.800 the podcast first time callers following in. 1:27:16.840 --> 1:27:17.160 Heaven. 1:27:17.560 --> 1:27:21.200 You know what, keep on bringing those truth bombs. Man, 1:27:21.880 --> 1:27:24.800 you just say what do you see? Because that's what 1:27:24.840 --> 1:27:27.280 I like. So don't let the beast get you down. 1:27:28.560 --> 1:27:31.000 We'll do Mike. 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:36.280 Here's the take. So your podcast is fabulous. That's you know, 1:27:36.400 --> 1:27:39.800 the micro This is kind of a macro take. We've 1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:43.920 had great continuity on defense a few the past few years, 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:49.360 and we've had pretty good continuity on offense disregarding the 1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:53.640 offensive coordinator. Once of the players have been together, what 1:27:53.680 --> 1:27:57.960 do you guys think about this team being kind of 1:27:58.040 --> 1:28:01.240 like a basketball player where they need to see a 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:02.200 shot and go in. 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:06.639 You get over the hump. Yeah, if they could just 1:28:06.680 --> 1:28:11.040 win one game like they played last Sunday, just win 1:28:11.160 --> 1:28:13.559 one of those games leveling up. 1:28:14.080 --> 1:28:15.760 Well, that's a really good take that be. 1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:18.200 Thanks for the call for it. Appreciate you listening as well. Yeah, 1:28:18.240 --> 1:28:20.160 it's like, you know, the floodgates opening, Yeah, right, like 1:28:20.160 --> 1:28:21.479 you hit one and then all of a sudden, you 1:28:21.560 --> 1:28:22.920 hit a million. I get them. 1:28:22.960 --> 1:28:24.760 That was literally, I mean I'm sitting up on the 1:28:24.760 --> 1:28:26.519 because I'm like formulating the stuff this game goes on. 1:28:26.560 --> 1:28:28.080 That was gonna be my take if they won, was 1:28:28.120 --> 1:28:30.160 they finally saw one go in and now let's like 1:28:30.600 --> 1:28:32.360 they've done it, they know they can do it. I 1:28:32.680 --> 1:28:34.599 think that would have been massive, And I think there 1:28:34.640 --> 1:28:37.720 is something to that. The problem is, is it by 1:28:37.760 --> 1:28:39.599 the time that happens is going to be too little, 1:28:39.600 --> 1:28:42.439 too late. Yeah, you know, if they win that first 1:28:42.479 --> 1:28:47.720 such game in week ten, right and they're four and six, right, 1:28:48.400 --> 1:28:51.000 like Nicole, all right, but it's gonna matter if they 1:28:51.000 --> 1:28:53.360 do it this week. Yeah, I think that there's absolutely 1:28:53.439 --> 1:28:54.040 something to that. 1:28:54.120 --> 1:28:55.880 I think that's the other part of Yeah, I'm glad 1:28:55.880 --> 1:28:57.160 you kind of put it that way, because I think 1:28:57.200 --> 1:28:59.679 that's another part about my frustration overall with the team 1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:04.280 is their first month of the schedule now just got 1:29:04.360 --> 1:29:06.320 easier because of what happened in New York, right, But 1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:08.800 their first month of the schedule is tough. Yeah, it's 1:29:08.840 --> 1:29:12.080 super hard. So I knew coming into this first month 1:29:12.360 --> 1:29:14.439 that if they were gonna have a season, they were 1:29:14.479 --> 1:29:16.360 gonna have to come out hot, like they were gonna 1:29:16.360 --> 1:29:18.920 have to come out and at least stay afloat and 1:29:19.000 --> 1:29:22.000 tread water in the first month of the year. Now 1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:24.280 they're already go in one, and you just worry, like, 1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:26.960 all right, maybe the Jets game now obviously looks a 1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:29.120 lot easier, and I'm not ready to just hand them 1:29:29.120 --> 1:29:31.760 a wa against the Jets, I'm not, but I think 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:34.120 that that's a game they should be favored in now. 1:29:34.479 --> 1:29:37.200 But like one in three to me, with like three 1:29:38.000 --> 1:29:40.720 competitive games and I said, no moral victories, but like 1:29:40.760 --> 1:29:45.200 three competitive games against Miami, the Cowboys, and the Eagles 1:29:45.200 --> 1:29:48.400 obviously already happened. Then I suppose that that's like at 1:29:48.479 --> 1:29:51.840 least staying that's treading water, but really, like to tread 1:29:51.840 --> 1:29:53.840 truly tread water, you gotta go to and two you 1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:54.160 got one. 1:29:54.360 --> 1:29:58.680 Yes, So I know people hate this staty. This is 1:29:58.720 --> 1:30:01.400 like the ultimate negative. Gonna give the ultimate negative take now, 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:05.400 because anytime an NFL team loses its first game, you 1:30:05.439 --> 1:30:08.240 hear that to two thing right, and its fans roll 1:30:08.320 --> 1:30:11.280 their eyes. So last year, the Bengals actually made the 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:13.519 playoffs after going oh and two. They were the first 1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:17.200 team to do it since twenty eighteen. The other there 1:30:17.200 --> 1:30:20.160 were five other teams that went oh and two. Their 1:30:21.479 --> 1:30:24.400 average wins for the season was just over six. If 1:30:24.400 --> 1:30:27.559 you throw in the Colts and Texans who started one 1:30:27.600 --> 1:30:31.240 and one, that win average drops below six games. So 1:30:31.640 --> 1:30:34.679 that I feel like that takes off and framed wrong. 1:30:35.680 --> 1:30:38.040 It's not to say if you start oh and too 1:30:38.120 --> 1:30:41.360 you can't make the playoffs. You can. But like the 1:30:41.400 --> 1:30:44.280 Bengals weren't an O and two team. We knew who 1:30:44.320 --> 1:30:46.120 they were. It's not if you start oh and two 1:30:46.160 --> 1:30:48.880 you can't make the playoffs. It's an zero and two 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:53.000 start is indicative of a team that's not good enough. 1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:56.360 And that's where the concern comes in. It's not it 1:30:56.400 --> 1:30:59.639 doesn't mean it's it's locked in. But we're talking about 1:30:59.680 --> 1:31:01.840 again team like Cincinnati last year, who had been to 1:31:01.840 --> 1:31:04.639 the Super Bowl. We knew who they were. I don't 1:31:04.680 --> 1:31:06.479 think too many people were applying that zero to two 1:31:06.520 --> 1:31:08.240 thing to them because we knew they could dig out 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:10.479 of it. Yeah, if this team starts oh and two, 1:31:11.439 --> 1:31:13.400 it might just be a sign that that's the team 1:31:13.439 --> 1:31:13.720 they are. 1:31:13.920 --> 1:31:16.920 Yeah, yeah, especially against good teams right like, because they're 1:31:16.960 --> 1:31:20.320 not playing cupcakes except maybe Zach Welson and the Jets. 1:31:20.680 --> 1:31:22.880 A couple more things and then we have a couple 1:31:22.880 --> 1:31:24.479 one more call than I do want to rap with 1:31:24.479 --> 1:31:26.920 the Brady stuff. I do want to talk a little 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:29.160 bit more about the defense on Sunday and just are 1:31:29.360 --> 1:31:30.800 kind of spin it for We talked a lot about 1:31:30.800 --> 1:31:33.320 how they match up against Miami, which was good and 1:31:33.360 --> 1:31:36.160 all that, but a Christian Zales and his debut, I'm 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:37.680 just going to kind of go rapid fire through a 1:31:37.680 --> 1:31:41.000 couple guys, the plan and all that kind of stuff. 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:43.400 I wrote about that and after further review and our 1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:46.559 film review a weekly piece, if you want to go 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:48.600 and look at how exactly they did it from like 1:31:48.640 --> 1:31:52.400 a schematics perspective. But I thought, really what this game 1:31:52.520 --> 1:31:56.959 made me most excited about defensively was they had Unlike offense, 1:31:57.280 --> 1:31:59.920 they actually have individual players that I think are move 1:32:00.160 --> 1:32:04.040 the needle for them defensively. Christian Gonzalez, I know, he 1:32:04.080 --> 1:32:06.280 gave up seven catches in this game to a J 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:09.799 Brown but they were all short of the shorter variety. 1:32:09.840 --> 1:32:11.960 He didn't give up a single deep ball and give 1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:14.640 up a single run after catch play. 1:32:14.240 --> 1:32:15.760 Like none of that kind of and he came up 1:32:15.800 --> 1:32:16.240 and tackled. 1:32:16.560 --> 1:32:18.439 I thought he played fantastic in this game. 1:32:18.520 --> 1:32:20.880 I did for what it was like if he's playing 1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:25.799 that way in three years, Yeah, for his first career game. Yeah, 1:32:25.840 --> 1:32:27.760 with what I think the plan was probably don't get 1:32:27.760 --> 1:32:29.919 beat deep if they make if they throw it underneath, 1:32:29.960 --> 1:32:31.640 just step up, make that and against the receiver like 1:32:31.680 --> 1:32:33.559 a J. Brown take that. 1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:34.200 Yeah. 1:32:34.280 --> 1:32:36.960 Yeah, I thought Christian Zalez was very good in this game. 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:38.760 I was excited about it. I don't think he was 1:32:38.800 --> 1:32:39.679 their best rookie though. 1:32:40.120 --> 1:32:42.280 Okay, I was going to get to maybe who I 1:32:42.280 --> 1:32:45.120 think you think were you going in order the draft? Yes, yeah, 1:32:45.560 --> 1:32:48.120 with Christian Gonzales. Just and then we'll move on to 1:32:48.240 --> 1:32:50.720 the next one. Christian Goannzalez. What I liked so much 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:55.439 about his game was the tackling. Yeah, yeah, that was 1:32:55.479 --> 1:32:58.040 a concern coming in with his physicality. I he didn't 1:32:58.080 --> 1:33:00.280 really want to go there after the game, but I 1:33:00.320 --> 1:33:02.920 think that you could tell that he wants. He knows 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:04.920 that that was the knock was that he wasn't a 1:33:04.920 --> 1:33:08.639 physical guy and he couldn't tackle very well that Georgia game, right, 1:33:08.760 --> 1:33:11.360 like yeah, all that kind of stuff that was the 1:33:11.439 --> 1:33:15.600 knock and this game. Aj Brown is one of the 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:16.840 best yack receivers in the league. 1:33:16.920 --> 1:33:20.360 And physically, I mean specimen yeah, Yeah, He's not a 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:22.040 guy who's gonna run around, he's gonna run through it. 1:33:22.160 --> 1:33:24.080 Yeah, and he was able to tackle m I think 1:33:24.080 --> 1:33:27.320 that maybe other than the fourth down pass breakup, which 1:33:27.360 --> 1:33:30.280 was great, he made a tackle on aj Brown coming 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:33.360 across the field on third down where aj Brown had 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:35.360 like a step on him coming across and he was 1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:37.280 able to close and make the tackle well short of 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:37.679 the sticks. 1:33:37.760 --> 1:33:38.040 Yeah. 1:33:38.120 --> 1:33:40.840 That play there, I was like, that's a play that 1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:44.280 if you asked a scout coming into the draft and 1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:46.719 you said AJ Brown is going to have a step 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:49.160 on Christian Gonzalez coming across the field on like third 1:33:49.160 --> 1:33:52.200 and nine at like third at like six yards of depth, 1:33:53.000 --> 1:33:55.240 is it going to be a first down? Every scout 1:33:55.240 --> 1:33:58.160 would say yes, yeah, every scout. And he made the tackle, 1:33:58.520 --> 1:34:01.160 and I think that's a really good sign of a 1:34:01.200 --> 1:34:05.320 play that he probably was told he can't make by 1:34:05.439 --> 1:34:08.000 a lot of the scouts. And people like us, and 1:34:08.040 --> 1:34:09.760 that he did make in the game, and that was 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:12.360 the most encouraging thing to me from that game. I 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:14.280 knew he could cover the deep ball. I knew he 1:34:14.320 --> 1:34:18.960 would stay a decent you know, tightness, closeness to the receivers, 1:34:19.000 --> 1:34:21.320 all that kind of stuff. But being able to come 1:34:21.400 --> 1:34:24.360 up and make that tackle was huge. So you thought 1:34:24.400 --> 1:34:27.040 the best rookie in this game was Keon White, Yeah, I. 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:29.240 Mean he was awesome. He was You look at what 1:34:29.280 --> 1:34:35.720 he's doing to Lane Johnson. He is bull rushing Lane Johnson. Yeah, 1:34:35.760 --> 1:34:38.080 it's he looks like he's been in the league five years. Yeah, 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:41.160 there's no rookie element. And he was a huge part 1:34:41.160 --> 1:34:44.479 of their rush plan against Jalen Hurts. He executed his 1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:47.400 plan at a high level. You know, he's he was 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:50.080 a problem. He was a problem in the Eagles back. 1:34:49.920 --> 1:34:52.360 Bed four pressures in twenty three snaps, which is an 1:34:52.360 --> 1:34:53.640 insane run outstand. 1:34:53.760 --> 1:34:57.560 I I'm way too excited for what he's going to 1:34:57.600 --> 1:34:59.320 be cut and that's in his first game. He's gonna 1:34:59.320 --> 1:35:01.360 get better. Yeah, I'm way too excited for what he 1:35:01.400 --> 1:35:03.160 can be. I they have a real guy here. 1:35:03.320 --> 1:35:05.680 They need to play him as much as possible. And 1:35:05.720 --> 1:35:07.760 I don't mean to like say like, oh, let's throw 1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:10.040 the rookie into seventy snaps a game, Like if they 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:12.080 don't feel like he's ready, I feel like he's ready, 1:35:12.080 --> 1:35:15.599 then you play him in the situation he looks ready. Yeah, 1:35:15.680 --> 1:35:17.639 I think what what stands out about him? 1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:19.680 Look right here is we're watching this and they have 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:21.439 the game on it. Right. 1:35:22.600 --> 1:35:25.080 So he won four times in the past rush. Two 1:35:25.080 --> 1:35:27.559 of them were with power just speed to power bowl 1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:31.280 rush one on each tackle. Uh. Then he won with 1:35:31.360 --> 1:35:33.200 an inside out move which I've seen him use in 1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:36.920 practice and it's filthy. Uh just you know, a jude On, 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:40.240 It's a Judon move. He put fakes outside, comes back. 1:35:40.160 --> 1:35:42.000 Real quick pause. What do you think of that move 1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:44.600 that Miles Garrett pulled where he does like the basketball 1:35:44.680 --> 1:35:45.200 came across. 1:35:45.800 --> 1:35:49.080 I know he's he's he's a Miles Garrett's an alien 1:35:49.240 --> 1:35:52.800 like Miles Garrett does not move like other people do. So, yeah, 1:35:52.840 --> 1:35:54.400 he won with that. Then he won with speed around 1:35:54.400 --> 1:35:58.720 the corner to speed rip around the corner. He he 1:35:58.800 --> 1:36:01.519 made it look easy like he really did. He may 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:04.800 look easy and not only did I I really not 1:36:04.840 --> 1:36:08.160 only is he just relentless, but the recovery talent to 1:36:08.320 --> 1:36:10.080 like plant his foot in the ground and then go 1:36:10.200 --> 1:36:13.519 chase Jalen Hurts. After Jalen Hurts, you know, leaves the pocket. 1:36:14.080 --> 1:36:14.760 That's rare. 1:36:15.040 --> 1:36:17.120 Like look, I know you just said nobody moves like 1:36:17.160 --> 1:36:19.479 Miles Garrett and I'm not comparing him to Miles Garrett, 1:36:19.520 --> 1:36:22.040 but like this isn't He doesn't move like you expect 1:36:22.040 --> 1:36:23.800 a sixty five, two hundred and ninety pound got to move. 1:36:24.040 --> 1:36:26.479 It's the change of direction for that really stands out. 1:36:26.520 --> 1:36:29.800 Like the play that he bowl rushes mylotta. Yeah, and 1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:32.840 then he's able to kind of recover and change directions 1:36:32.880 --> 1:36:36.719 to then get Hurts up into the sideline. That's something 1:36:36.800 --> 1:36:40.200 that their defensive line has been missing. Like Judean and 1:36:40.200 --> 1:36:44.439 ouj and bar More can get downhill better than like 1:36:44.600 --> 1:36:48.120 a lot of guys, but they then they lose contained right, 1:36:48.120 --> 1:36:49.800 Like they don't recover as quickly as he. 1:36:50.000 --> 1:36:51.559 So let me ask you this. You talk about getting 1:36:51.600 --> 1:36:53.040 him on the field more, and how do you do that? 1:36:53.600 --> 1:36:53.800 Yeah? 1:36:54.080 --> 1:36:56.719 Can he makes some of this work as an interior rusher? 1:36:57.120 --> 1:36:58.880 Yeah? I would hope so, because that would be the 1:36:58.960 --> 1:37:01.040 next step. I I think that with his hand in 1:37:01.080 --> 1:37:03.920 the dirt. He crossed his face so quickly that he's 1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:06.280 going to be really a problem with guards. 1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:07.880 Doesn't even need to be hand in the dirty. You 1:37:07.880 --> 1:37:09.960 could stand them up right, Yeah, we know they do that. 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:12.400 My point being like, do you think they can get 1:37:12.400 --> 1:37:14.000 to the point And I know that they like to 1:37:14.040 --> 1:37:17.320 put more guys back in these obvious passing situations, But 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:19.840 where you have a pass rush group of Jude on 1:37:19.920 --> 1:37:22.600 and on the edge in Barmore and Keon White in 1:37:22.600 --> 1:37:25.040 the middle, do you think that's something they can functionally 1:37:25.120 --> 1:37:28.360 build because if they do, yeah, I mean, it'd be 1:37:28.360 --> 1:37:28.880 pretty fun. 1:37:29.080 --> 1:37:29.280 Yeah. 1:37:29.400 --> 1:37:31.519 I do wonder if, like you know, you've used like 1:37:31.560 --> 1:37:34.240 the Trey Flowers like type of role comparison. I do 1:37:34.320 --> 1:37:38.280 wonder at one point do they put Keon White at 1:37:38.280 --> 1:37:41.120 the nose in that five rush package, you know, five 1:37:41.200 --> 1:37:44.400 zero rush package that they use in that way that 1:37:44.479 --> 1:37:47.320 they had like four guys standing up around Trey Flowers 1:37:47.320 --> 1:37:48.960 and it was just Trey Flowers of his hand in 1:37:49.000 --> 1:37:49.320 the well. 1:37:49.320 --> 1:37:51.679 But couldn't you do that with bar more You could 1:37:51.760 --> 1:37:53.599 and then have wipey one of the guys that's standing up. 1:37:53.640 --> 1:37:55.880 You could, Yeah, yeah, any of that would be great. 1:37:56.200 --> 1:37:57.880 I think all of that would be I just if 1:37:57.920 --> 1:37:59.240 you can find a guy to get the find a 1:37:59.280 --> 1:38:00.800 way to get those four guys on the field in 1:38:00.840 --> 1:38:03.760 a pass rush situation, I mean, you can really do. So. 1:38:03.800 --> 1:38:05.639 It's one of the better fronts in the league. Yeah, 1:38:05.720 --> 1:38:08.080 I've been saying that all along about the Patriots defensive front. 1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:10.400 They have one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL. 1:38:10.760 --> 1:38:14.080 I don't think you know, Niners, Cowboys, Eagles like those 1:38:14.120 --> 1:38:17.080 teams might have them beat. But other than that, I'd 1:38:17.120 --> 1:38:20.080 probably take their front over everybody else. It's top five 1:38:20.280 --> 1:38:22.400 in my opinion. All Right, So he talked about ke 1:38:22.560 --> 1:38:24.759 Why we talked about Marty Mapu earlier in the show. 1:38:26.040 --> 1:38:30.559 I do want to give Jawan Bentley his flowers, really 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:35.040 really good Juwan Bentley game. He's he's just a good 1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:39.599 football player. He's just so good at taking on blocks 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:43.280 and condensing space in the running game. I really feel 1:38:43.320 --> 1:38:48.160 like his development as a player and how fast he 1:38:48.240 --> 1:38:51.719 plays now compared to how he early on in his career. 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:54.280 Like he could always hit, he could always come downhill, 1:38:54.320 --> 1:38:57.400 but sometimes he looked like his feet were in cement right, 1:38:57.479 --> 1:38:59.679 Like he looked like his feet were stuck he's such 1:38:59.720 --> 1:39:04.599 a more explosive, like just flexible player then he then 1:39:04.640 --> 1:39:06.960 he used to be. I really give him a lot 1:39:07.000 --> 1:39:10.160 of credit. He's he's gotten so much better over the 1:39:10.200 --> 1:39:12.320 course of his career. I played a great game in 1:39:12.360 --> 1:39:16.280 this one. Uh is there anybody else? Si Jabriel Peppers. 1:39:16.240 --> 1:39:18.639 Pepper, Yeah, yeah, he's going to be a player this year. 1:39:19.880 --> 1:39:22.800 Miles Bryant. I thought playing a good game, which again 1:39:22.840 --> 1:39:24.840 it's that thing I've been talking about. Don't well. So 1:39:24.880 --> 1:39:27.200 it didn't start well because they'd a manning up Quez Watkins, 1:39:27.240 --> 1:39:28.360 which he can't do well. 1:39:28.560 --> 1:39:30.040 It was zone but yeah, okay, but. 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:33.080 Like, let him play a deeper zone, come up diagnose 1:39:34.360 --> 1:39:36.400 like I meant that tackle and aj Brown. 1:39:36.520 --> 1:39:38.800 He should be able to play the flat like it was. Okay, 1:39:38.840 --> 1:39:40.080 it was our p but you get what. 1:39:40.120 --> 1:39:42.479 You get what I'm saying, like, just let him let 1:39:42.520 --> 1:39:45.000 him diagnose rather than chase. When you let him do that, 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:46.160 he actually does make plays. 1:39:46.160 --> 1:39:48.280 All right, let's take the call from Patty. Who's Who's 1:39:48.320 --> 1:39:51.639 had some good emails this week, Patty, some some interesting emails. 1:39:51.680 --> 1:39:52.559 How you doing, Patty? 1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:57.960 What's going on? Guys? Not much so I haven't listen. 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:00.880 I wasn't really coming after you the other day when 1:40:00.920 --> 1:40:04.040 I emailed in, my whole point was, like the last 1:40:04.040 --> 1:40:08.639 few years, I know, the end result was they didn't 1:40:08.720 --> 1:40:11.479 get it done, and against good teams they haven't gotten 1:40:11.520 --> 1:40:14.439 it done. But I think just comparing the last year 1:40:15.240 --> 1:40:17.400 what I saw them do, Like, I think if this 1:40:17.600 --> 1:40:19.400 was last year and they were down sixteen to nothing, 1:40:19.400 --> 1:40:21.439 I would have just I would have been pulling my 1:40:21.479 --> 1:40:23.880 hair out that they're gonna end up getting beat forty 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:25.599 five to nothing or forty five to ten. 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:26.000 In this game. 1:40:28.160 --> 1:40:30.920 But you know, I did see some improvement. I thought, 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:34.519 even though like Mac got the ball out quick, the 1:40:34.560 --> 1:40:37.040 fact that they started those two rookies, and those two 1:40:37.080 --> 1:40:40.760 rookies also went up against those monsters on the defensive 1:40:40.760 --> 1:40:44.240 line they played, I think everybody played a pretty good 1:40:44.280 --> 1:40:46.320 game as far as like the offensive line. 1:40:46.479 --> 1:40:48.719 Okay, I got to push back on that a little bit, Patty, 1:40:48.840 --> 1:40:51.040 like their rookies in their first screw starts, I'm not 1:40:51.080 --> 1:40:54.640 going to kill them, but keep going, keep going. I 1:40:54.640 --> 1:40:55.080 don't want to. 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:58.840 And Mac, you're right. Mac has to play sixteen minutes, 1:40:59.200 --> 1:41:01.920 has to play six minute game, can't play thirty minutes. 1:41:02.000 --> 1:41:07.080 He can't play fifteen minutes and expect to win, but 1:41:07.560 --> 1:41:09.800 you know that that's done and over week one is done. 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:13.920 I don't have a good feeling about this game. When 1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:17.679 I looked at the injury report, I'm just like, come on, man, 1:41:18.280 --> 1:41:21.040 like that we're already having offensive line lows now, our 1:41:21.120 --> 1:41:25.560 starting left tackle, our starting center, and the rookie that 1:41:25.640 --> 1:41:28.200 they had what was so playing right guard. He's that 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:29.200 they're not going to play. 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:31.040 I could see. 1:41:31.080 --> 1:41:36.519 I could see a scenario, honestly where they just there's 1:41:36.600 --> 1:41:40.360 too many turnovers and kind of like how they began 1:41:40.439 --> 1:41:44.800 the game last week, where it's just they turned the 1:41:44.800 --> 1:41:47.120 ball over a couple of times, Miami gets a few 1:41:47.200 --> 1:41:49.840 quick scores and it's over because they can't block it. 1:41:50.000 --> 1:41:52.400 And and I don't think Miami's defense is great by 1:41:52.439 --> 1:41:54.880 any stretch of the imagination. I think Christian Wilkins is 1:41:54.880 --> 1:41:55.640 a beast. 1:41:56.040 --> 1:41:56.200 But. 1:41:57.960 --> 1:42:01.639 Forget about it. You're can't block them, You're not gonna 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:05.040 freaking win, You're not gonna move the ball. I think 1:42:05.080 --> 1:42:07.040 the Dolphins are one in this game. And I hate 1:42:07.040 --> 1:42:09.760 to say, because they're my NFL Yankees, I hate them. 1:42:09.800 --> 1:42:12.920 They're they're my least favorite sports team, even more so 1:42:13.040 --> 1:42:17.080 than the Yankees, even more so than the Lakers. That's 1:42:17.120 --> 1:42:17.679 all I got. 1:42:17.960 --> 1:42:20.040 Thanks mate, thanks for the call. I didn't mean. I 1:42:20.080 --> 1:42:22.599 don't want to trash the rookies because it's their first 1:42:22.640 --> 1:42:27.120 career start. They're they're thrown into a tough situation. But 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:29.559 to categorize Mafi and so is playing well in that 1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:32.360 game is not really telling the truths. 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:34.800 They played better than expectations. It doesn't mean they played well. 1:42:34.840 --> 1:42:36.600 That's kind of how I put it. I actually I 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:39.479 texted you the number yard sday was it they ran for? 1:42:40.160 --> 1:42:42.200 I think it was one point three yards per carry 1:42:42.240 --> 1:42:45.679 between guards? Like, that's not they gave it done. 1:42:45.720 --> 1:42:48.360 The two of them gave up twelve pressures between the 1:42:48.400 --> 1:42:48.720 two of them. 1:42:48.760 --> 1:42:51.920 Yeah, twelve twelve pressures one point three yards per carry. Look, 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:53.760 they didn't get mac Jones killed, and I think that's 1:42:53.840 --> 1:42:57.120 kind of what the expectation was enough. So they played 1:42:57.160 --> 1:42:59.080 better than that, and that's kind of the story of 1:42:59.080 --> 1:43:01.480 a lot of things with the team's better than expectations. 1:43:01.479 --> 1:43:02.479 But it doesn't mean it was good. 1:43:02.600 --> 1:43:05.360 Okay, so uh good, good way to end it. On 1:43:05.400 --> 1:43:09.280 the offensive line and then the Brady stuff offensive line, 1:43:10.200 --> 1:43:12.920 What are we looking at on Sunday for this offensive line? 1:43:13.160 --> 1:43:16.240 Assuming that the injuries hold. 1:43:16.600 --> 1:43:20.680 I understand there all five like, like what are we 1:43:20.680 --> 1:43:21.120 talking about? 1:43:21.120 --> 1:43:23.800 We can talk about, but I understand where Patty's coming from, 1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:25.599 where everybody's coming from, that they look at the injuries 1:43:25.600 --> 1:43:28.479 of the offensive line and it's it's concerning. And I 1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:32.080 picked the Dolphins in the game, but overall, in terms 1:43:32.120 --> 1:43:34.960 of like the competitiveness of the game and keeping it close, 1:43:35.400 --> 1:43:38.759 I actually am not overly concerned with the offensive line 1:43:38.760 --> 1:43:42.000 because I really was impressed by how O'Brien and mack 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:45.160 was were able to manage it on Sunday, and I 1:43:45.200 --> 1:43:47.120 don't think that this Dolphins front is as good as 1:43:47.120 --> 1:43:48.040 the one they just went up there. 1:43:48.160 --> 1:43:49.600 So I think that's a really good way to put it, 1:43:49.600 --> 1:43:52.040 because what scares me about this offensive line they can 1:43:52.120 --> 1:43:54.280 As we were watching the game, Kendrick Bourne takes off. 1:43:54.400 --> 1:43:56.479 He's so good that hidden plan last year. 1:43:58.680 --> 1:44:00.720 He won't let that go and I appreciate it. 1:44:01.120 --> 1:44:03.599 Kv's my guy. I've said this for you. I will 1:44:03.600 --> 1:44:05.840 find a spot for Kendrick Born on my team any day. 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:08.200 Guy like on and off the field, just what he thinks. Okay, 1:44:09.880 --> 1:44:11.920 it's not so much that I'm worried about Mac Jones 1:44:12.200 --> 1:44:14.519 being under pressure because he handled pressure well last week, 1:44:14.920 --> 1:44:16.559 and like you just said, the big thing, they'll scheme 1:44:16.600 --> 1:44:20.639 around it. Yeah, it's that fourth and three that you hated, right, Yeah, 1:44:20.680 --> 1:44:22.559 why did that fourth and three happen? Because on third 1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:24.160 and three they tried to I don't know if it 1:44:24.200 --> 1:44:26.360 was technically half back dive, but like they went between 1:44:26.400 --> 1:44:28.759 the guards with the Zegiel Elliot, he got stonewalled. Yeah, 1:44:28.880 --> 1:44:31.360 that is my biggest concern with the offensive line. When 1:44:31.400 --> 1:44:34.879 you need a yard to three yards, can the offensive 1:44:34.880 --> 1:44:37.600 line and lie you to get that conventionally? Are you 1:44:37.680 --> 1:44:39.400 going to be weird? Are you gonna have to do something? 1:44:39.840 --> 1:44:41.599 That's what scares me more than anything else right now 1:44:41.640 --> 1:44:42.479 with the offensive line. 1:44:42.800 --> 1:44:44.759 The part of the reason why they dropped back fifty 1:44:44.760 --> 1:44:47.200 eight times is because it was sixteen to nothing out 1:44:47.240 --> 1:44:49.120 of the gate. But they also couldn't run the ball. 1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:52.360 So that, by the way, in a way credit to O'Brien, 1:44:52.360 --> 1:44:54.240 because last year they would not have made that adjustment. 1:44:54.320 --> 1:44:56.320 Yeah, and I think you know, the thing that I 1:44:56.400 --> 1:44:58.880 like so much about O'Brien's offense is that, you know, 1:44:58.920 --> 1:45:01.320 his quick game and his green game really operates as 1:45:01.360 --> 1:45:01.960 an extension of. 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:03.880 The run, even though the other thing you said before, 1:45:04.479 --> 1:45:06.640 you point out he's not afraid if something's working to 1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:09.240 keep going back to it. Yeah, At the same time, 1:45:09.280 --> 1:45:11.000 and this is probably kind of the same take from 1:45:11.040 --> 1:45:13.840 a different angle. If something's not working, even if it's 1:45:13.840 --> 1:45:17.120 something he likes, he'll understand it's not working and move on. 1:45:17.760 --> 1:45:20.000 And they moved on from the run game last week. 1:45:20.400 --> 1:45:22.920 You can't do that every week. At a certain point, 1:45:23.120 --> 1:45:24.800 you're gonna have a third one where you just need 1:45:24.840 --> 1:45:27.479 a pound at home and the offensive line needs to 1:45:27.479 --> 1:45:29.200 allow needs to allow you to do that. 1:45:29.360 --> 1:45:31.840 So for the group, Yeah, let's go over the configurations. 1:45:31.920 --> 1:45:35.759 So Trent Brown and City so aren't playing like there's 1:45:35.840 --> 1:45:38.720 just no way a week after concussion. I think you 1:45:38.760 --> 1:45:42.080 move Calvin Anderson to left tackle first and foremost. But 1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:46.000 what are the other offense Andrew Stuber? I think Andrew 1:45:46.000 --> 1:45:49.400 Steuber is the only other tackle, right, All right, well, 1:45:49.479 --> 1:45:51.000 you're moving Calvin Anderson to left tackle. 1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:53.840 I thought Calvin Anderson initially on my initial watch, I 1:45:53.840 --> 1:45:57.040 thought Calvin Anderson was fine. I watched the offensive line 1:45:57.080 --> 1:46:01.080 alone again and he also at a rough game. Yeah, 1:46:01.240 --> 1:46:01.639 keep going. 1:46:01.880 --> 1:46:03.720 I I think some of it too, Like guys are 1:46:03.800 --> 1:46:06.920 they brought down by like they are all kind of 1:46:07.000 --> 1:46:08.639 we talk about guys elevating each other. 1:46:08.800 --> 1:46:11.160 A lot of it too with him, in all fairness 1:46:11.280 --> 1:46:13.160 is like you didn't have training companies out there for 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:15.840 plays on the week one in the conditioning. You know, 1:46:15.880 --> 1:46:18.559 a lot of his his bad bad reps came in 1:46:18.560 --> 1:46:19.320 the second half. 1:46:19.160 --> 1:46:21.240 Which makes sense. Yeah, so all right, so you have 1:46:21.240 --> 1:46:24.599 Callan Anderson left tackle. Let's let's let's do one. We're 1:46:24.880 --> 1:46:26.599 outside of Andrews. None of the guys on the injury 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:30.240 report play, so you're you're still missing Cole Strange and 1:46:30.280 --> 1:46:33.479 Mike Winning again. I think you're going Callan Anderson, ye, 1:46:35.000 --> 1:46:40.559 Antonio Maffi, David Andrews. It's probably James Ferrence a right 1:46:40.760 --> 1:46:43.360 guard is a practice squad elevation over Jake Andrews. 1:46:43.040 --> 1:46:44.919 Right, I would think so. And then. 1:46:46.760 --> 1:46:50.400 In your Varian Lowe Darian low at right tackle unless 1:46:50.400 --> 1:46:53.879 he's not ready, in which case they probably recall Andrew stupid. 1:46:52.880 --> 1:46:55.760 I think there's a chance to get two offensive line 1:46:55.800 --> 1:47:02.120 recalls for this game anyway. Yeah, if honestly, it's probably 1:47:02.760 --> 1:47:04.920 a one for one if either of those guards return. 1:47:05.760 --> 1:47:10.040 Whoever returns, Mafi's in the other spot. Yep, right over Farence. 1:47:10.240 --> 1:47:12.160 Yep. Mafi was. 1:47:14.200 --> 1:47:17.960 Like, no, you didn't think so. Maybe it's just by comparison. 1:47:17.560 --> 1:47:21.720 Jaileen Carter, just it's Carter, but that's that's every week. 1:47:21.760 --> 1:47:22.479 This week it's Christian. 1:47:22.520 --> 1:47:27.120 That's all right, all right, it's fair point, it's fair point. Well, 1:47:27.160 --> 1:47:28.799 then do you think there's a chance to try Farence 1:47:28.800 --> 1:47:30.639 and just be like, these rookies aren't ready, we're going. 1:47:30.680 --> 1:47:33.840 I think believe to give him the reps and give 1:47:33.880 --> 1:47:36.320 him the opportunity. The way that I look at Stranger 1:47:36.400 --> 1:47:39.400 on Uh is that I think that if that was 1:47:40.200 --> 1:47:43.800 a post Thanksgiving game, I'm not ready to say a 1:47:43.800 --> 1:47:46.679 playoffs because let's fra it, you know, post Thanksgiving game. 1:47:47.040 --> 1:47:49.680 I think the week seventeen against the Bills last year 1:47:49.680 --> 1:47:53.160 winning in Okay, they play I I thought it was 1:47:53.360 --> 1:47:56.840 very interesting when Bill was asked about them on Wednesday, 1:47:57.840 --> 1:47:59.760 he said, you know, where are they gonna play? Sad 1:47:59.760 --> 1:48:02.480 they'll eventually. It's a really. 1:48:02.280 --> 1:48:06.240 Weird because I think one Bill with Bill, it's always 1:48:06.240 --> 1:48:08.480 gamesman ship, right, he doesn't want to tell the Dolphins 1:48:08.520 --> 1:48:09.759 anything but yeah. 1:48:09.600 --> 1:48:11.760 But usually he just says they're out there practicing, you know. 1:48:11.800 --> 1:48:13.200 With Andrew, I think the other. 1:48:13.080 --> 1:48:16.160 Way to look at it is is that that's a 1:48:16.200 --> 1:48:20.960 situation where it's bigger than a week two game against 1:48:20.960 --> 1:48:24.120 Miami and these decisions to make about the long term 1:48:24.160 --> 1:48:28.559 longevity of the player. But I think that my gut, 1:48:28.600 --> 1:48:31.360 and this is not any inside information, my gut is 1:48:31.360 --> 1:48:33.760 is that one of Stranger on when he will be 1:48:33.760 --> 1:48:34.000 out there. 1:48:34.000 --> 1:48:35.800 I feel like Strange is probably closer than when. 1:48:35.960 --> 1:48:38.720 Yeah, I think if they're close and they can, it's 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:43.240 ninety five percent healthy that one of those guys will 1:48:43.240 --> 1:48:46.040 play because they have to at this point, like they're 1:48:46.040 --> 1:48:50.559 desperate for bodies, let alone just the talent level being different. 1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:52.240 So I think one of those guys is going to 1:48:52.280 --> 1:48:54.800 play on Sunday. So I agree with your line. If 1:48:54.840 --> 1:48:59.760 nobody else plays, I think that you're probably in my 1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:05.080 mind looking at Calvin Anderson, Cold Strange, David andrews Antonio, 1:49:05.080 --> 1:49:07.760 Maffivederien Low from left to right. I think that on 1:49:07.840 --> 1:49:10.200 Winny Will they'll continue to hold on winning out. But 1:49:10.640 --> 1:49:14.200 I think Strangel will play on Sunday, just gut, not 1:49:14.360 --> 1:49:16.400 no inside info on that, but I just I think 1:49:16.400 --> 1:49:20.479 he will and really quickly. Also on the on the 1:49:20.520 --> 1:49:24.479 offensive line, I gave David Andrews the gold Star at 1:49:24.479 --> 1:49:26.599 the beginning of the show. But Trent Brown was also 1:49:26.640 --> 1:49:28.439 really good in that game on Sunday too, which makes 1:49:28.439 --> 1:49:31.120 the concussion even more of a bummer. He lost late 1:49:31.160 --> 1:49:34.880 on that Josh Sweat sack, but other than that, he 1:49:35.080 --> 1:49:37.719 was he was pretty good in that game, like old 1:49:37.760 --> 1:49:40.120 Trent Brown, you know, one on one pass pro on 1:49:40.160 --> 1:49:43.599 the backside and played really welled up, really well. So 1:49:43.680 --> 1:49:46.280 hopefully that has a one week concussion and he's back 1:49:46.320 --> 1:49:48.679 long term and it's it's nothing major to worry about, 1:49:48.840 --> 1:49:51.360 all right, really quickly, we got three minutes before we 1:49:51.360 --> 1:49:54.680 got a wrap on the Brady stuff. What what what? 1:49:55.040 --> 1:49:56.439 Just what was your take? Closure? 1:49:57.240 --> 1:50:00.040 Closure? It really it really was the thing. When he 1:50:00.040 --> 1:50:02.280 he left, I remember it was like, you'll get Peyton 1:50:02.280 --> 1:50:05.200 Manning And when's the last time Peyton Manning did anything 1:50:05.240 --> 1:50:08.479 remotely related to the Indianapolis Colts. And it's like that 1:50:08.680 --> 1:50:10.439 sucks because he's such a huge part of that franchise 1:50:10.439 --> 1:50:12.400 and Brady's even bigger here. It's like I don't want 1:50:12.400 --> 1:50:14.000 to lose him forever. I get he had to go 1:50:14.080 --> 1:50:15.800 somewhere else to play, but it's like, is he just 1:50:15.840 --> 1:50:18.360 gonna be a buck now and when he said, you know, 1:50:18.479 --> 1:50:21.320 Patriot for life and to see him in the old 1:50:21.720 --> 1:50:25.360 Jersey and actually do the rundown and all that and 1:50:25.400 --> 1:50:29.000 he's gonna come back again, and just it was it's like, 1:50:29.040 --> 1:50:31.720 all right, he's coming back, Like he's still here, He's 1:50:31.760 --> 1:50:33.439 still a part of this. I get we have to 1:50:33.479 --> 1:50:35.080 share him with Tampa. That's fine. 1:50:35.160 --> 1:50:35.439 I don't know. 1:50:35.479 --> 1:50:37.760 If we do well, that would be even better. No, 1:50:37.800 --> 1:50:39.840 But like he did, he won a title there. He 1:50:39.960 --> 1:50:41.000 there's an extent to that. 1:50:41.120 --> 1:50:44.160 I don't I don't know if in Brady's so I 1:50:44.240 --> 1:50:47.160 said at the end of the show, So what. 1:50:46.760 --> 1:50:48.880 We know his time in Tampa was purely transactional. 1:50:48.960 --> 1:50:50.400 Yeah, and I think that's how he views it. 1:50:50.760 --> 1:50:53.200 But but there's all like when they post like you 1:50:53.240 --> 1:50:55.160 always see now, like the graphic of the seven Super 1:50:55.160 --> 1:50:57.800 Bowls and there's like the Bucks logo on it, that's 1:50:57.840 --> 1:51:00.280 what I mean, Like there'll always be that Tampa part 1:51:00.320 --> 1:51:04.320 of it, but like he's he's still the Patriot for life. 1:51:04.439 --> 1:51:07.400 I I is. It was it really like I texted 1:51:07.439 --> 1:51:09.800 like two or three friends, like all of them after that, 1:51:09.840 --> 1:51:11.240 and I was like that was closure, and they were 1:51:11.280 --> 1:51:13.240 all like, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, it was 1:51:13.320 --> 1:51:16.360 closure on Like rober Kraft said, we never properly got 1:51:16.360 --> 1:51:19.120 to say goodbye. Yeah, and I think to do that 1:51:19.200 --> 1:51:21.160 and to hear him say what he said, it felt good. 1:51:21.360 --> 1:51:23.720 Yeah. I said that. I was I was gonna be 1:51:23.760 --> 1:51:27.839 body language doctor Brady, and he passed with flying color. 1:51:27.680 --> 1:51:31.599 Pat body language, and like it wasn't There was no 1:51:31.760 --> 1:51:34.559 cell job, he wasn't wearing TV twelve stuff. It didn't 1:51:34.560 --> 1:51:37.080 feel like Hollywood, even like this is a stupid little 1:51:37.120 --> 1:51:39.840 observation that I had. His hair was like it looked 1:51:39.840 --> 1:51:42.120 like he just played a game. Like he looked up 1:51:42.120 --> 1:51:45.439 on the no like himself, him standing up you know 1:51:45.479 --> 1:51:47.960 because like him standing on the podium, like it gave 1:51:48.000 --> 1:51:50.639 me a little deja vu to like seeing him pictures 1:51:50.680 --> 1:51:52.800 of him on the podium after Super Bowls. It wasn't 1:51:52.840 --> 1:51:54.160 like because I was thinking, like, is he gonna be 1:51:54.240 --> 1:51:55.680 up there in a suit and he's gonna have the 1:51:55.720 --> 1:51:58.680 five thousand dollars haircut, and you know he's gonna talk 1:51:58.720 --> 1:52:00.920 about oh TV twelve now, Oh he went up there 1:52:00.920 --> 1:52:03.960 in a jersey just looking like some guy and talked 1:52:04.000 --> 1:52:06.080 about how much he loved it here. That was I 1:52:06.120 --> 1:52:07.800 didn't think he would do that. I thought we would 1:52:07.800 --> 1:52:10.160 get Corporate Tom. There was not one ounce of Corporate 1:52:10.160 --> 1:52:11.599 Tom involved in that. It was awesome. 1:52:11.800 --> 1:52:16.519 He uh he let himself, let the let the curtain 1:52:16.560 --> 1:52:19.080 down a little bit. Yeah, he did. He did. And 1:52:19.120 --> 1:52:21.840 I said, you know, I was gonna see like, was 1:52:21.880 --> 1:52:26.160 this like you said Corporate Tom, was this I gotta 1:52:26.200 --> 1:52:29.000 do this for mister Kraft because you know, twenty years 1:52:29.040 --> 1:52:30.920 of paying me, like I kind of have to do this, 1:52:31.160 --> 1:52:35.200 Like all right, I'll go No, this wasn't anything like that. 1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:38.679 And I genuinely think that, based off of his reaction 1:52:38.840 --> 1:52:42.599 and how he carried himself throughout the entire day, that 1:52:43.640 --> 1:52:47.800 he identifies as a Patriot. I think he appreciates the 1:52:47.800 --> 1:52:50.720 Bucks years, and he appreciates the Bucks for letting him 1:52:50.720 --> 1:52:54.400 continue his career in the NFL post Patriots. But I 1:52:54.439 --> 1:52:58.599 don't think that in his mind he has really anything 1:52:59.439 --> 1:53:02.200 to do with the Bucks, if that makes sense, you know, Like, 1:53:02.280 --> 1:53:04.280 I don't think that he really views himself as. 1:53:04.240 --> 1:53:06.160 A break right and uh, I mean like I think 1:53:06.160 --> 1:53:07.800 he'd go back if they had like a thing. But 1:53:07.840 --> 1:53:10.880 all right, Patriots Bucks Week one, they're both playing at 1:53:10.880 --> 1:53:13.400 the same time. He gets invited to both he's coming back, 1:53:13.439 --> 1:53:15.479 He's coming here. I would think, so well, that was 1:53:15.520 --> 1:53:17.160 the thing. I was like, is that what he's gonna do? 1:53:17.400 --> 1:53:19.280 I mean, you know that when he goes into the 1:53:19.560 --> 1:53:21.320 Pro Football Hall of Fame, the Hall of Fame game 1:53:21.360 --> 1:53:24.240 will be Patriots Bucks of course obviously, right yeah, and 1:53:24.240 --> 1:53:24.840 that'll be fun. 1:53:25.000 --> 1:53:27.120 Oh I I that, you know, I don't like usually 1:53:27.120 --> 1:53:28.800 travel with the team, but like, I've never been in 1:53:28.800 --> 1:53:30.840 the PROFILEB Hall of Fame. I want to go. I 1:53:30.880 --> 1:53:32.519 can't think of when I was growing up. But you 1:53:32.520 --> 1:53:34.280 say I'll go and Drew Bledsoe gets in. I'm starting 1:53:34.320 --> 1:53:35.680 to think that's not gonna happen. So I'll go in 1:53:35.760 --> 1:53:38.640 Tom Brady, I'm saying when I was like ten, I 1:53:38.720 --> 1:53:40.439 used to say that that's great. 1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:45.840 Uh yeah, so it was great. I thought the him 1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:48.519 coming out on the lighthouse first and like that sort 1:53:48.560 --> 1:53:52.439 of being reveal was cool. Uh the rundown was cool, 1:53:52.600 --> 1:53:54.640 Like I you know, that's not usually my thing. You know, 1:53:54.680 --> 1:53:55.280 I hate fun. 1:53:55.760 --> 1:53:58.040 I thought, would he like zipping the jacket like that? 1:53:58.160 --> 1:54:01.040 It was the old jersey? Yeah yeah, and that wasn't 1:54:01.080 --> 1:54:02.880 just an old jersey, that was a game warn jersey. 1:54:02.960 --> 1:54:05.680 Everything. That really the big the thing that got me 1:54:05.840 --> 1:54:08.120 got me. Yeah, was just like seeing him in Patriots 1:54:08.160 --> 1:54:10.519 gear again. Yeah, like that was like like you said, 1:54:10.600 --> 1:54:12.640 like he could have worn a TV twelve stuff he 1:54:12.720 --> 1:54:14.840 couldn't like, but he was wearing the Elvis. 1:54:14.880 --> 1:54:17.559 He was in Patriots gear. Uh, he was a Patriots 1:54:18.080 --> 1:54:20.479 but it wasn't. But it's even deeper than that. It 1:54:20.520 --> 1:54:22.320 wasn't like they went and got a jersey from the 1:54:22.320 --> 1:54:23.880 pro Shop and it was like the new dream. No 1:54:24.120 --> 1:54:25.599 that and I'll take you you look at the way 1:54:25.640 --> 1:54:28.920 the jersey's cutting. Yeah, that was a game warn jersey. 1:54:29.120 --> 1:54:31.439 Well it was great. All of it was great, and 1:54:31.520 --> 1:54:34.640 I'm glad it happened. And I'm really looking forward to 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:37.960 uh six twelve twenty four, Alex and I I'm sure 1:54:38.000 --> 1:54:41.040 we'll be there. Oh yeah, and you might have to 1:54:41.040 --> 1:54:43.440 bring the tissues. You might have to. I got a 1:54:43.480 --> 1:54:46.280 little emotional, right, I did bring the tissues. It's gonna 1:54:46.280 --> 1:54:47.120 be a great time. 1:54:47.480 --> 1:54:47.640 Uh. 1:54:47.680 --> 1:54:50.040 That ticket is gonna be a hot ticket though. That's 1:54:50.080 --> 1:54:52.120 gonna be a tough one to get, So don't don't 1:54:52.200 --> 1:54:55.040 don't come side in the DMS asking for tickets. 1:54:54.680 --> 1:54:56.760 That Zach Bryan back to back like two weeks. 1:54:56.840 --> 1:54:59.240 Oh my god, Yeah, everybody's gonna be at Zach Bryan. 1:54:59.280 --> 1:55:01.840 That's for sure, all right. Anyways, that does it here? 1:55:02.160 --> 1:55:05.560 That was a full two hours, no commercials, no breaks, 1:55:05.680 --> 1:55:09.200 no nothing, just two hours straight of Patriots talk. We 1:55:09.240 --> 1:55:11.920 put morell to sleep. I love it. 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