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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zagoro. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's do a live on a Friday initiative Cleveland Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 1: I am merely bow the great gibby here. How you doing,

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Speaker 1: buddy on this Friday? Better than you? Man? The heart

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Speaker 1: rate up a little bit ahead, had come in hot

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Speaker 1: and heavy. Well, we had the Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you do it. I quick Google search,

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Speaker 1: I guess solved it. But as I got in the vehicle, uh,

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Speaker 1: to head over here, it just froze, just froze. I

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Speaker 1: it's not like I could just kick the carburetor because

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Speaker 1: And so I'm thinking too, I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: do here. It was just sitting in reverse still in

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Speaker 1: the driveway, less than ideal. But a quick Google and

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Speaker 1: I it was basically like restarting a computer that's all

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Speaker 1: two buttons down, like my phone resetting a phone resetting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy, yeah, yeah, but it's the first time

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Speaker 1: it's happened. I've had it since nine I've never had

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Speaker 1: I haven't had this first. This is the first experience

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Speaker 1: with that of a of a meltdown. At least you

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Speaker 1: were home. You weren't in an interview, because I mean

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Speaker 1: that would be a lot. Yes, I could have, but

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Speaker 1: I was at the same time, like you're You're point

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Speaker 1: is well taken, like I don't know what happens if

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Speaker 1: that happens at a light. And by the way, you

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Speaker 1: can't exactly take that to a regular shop. No, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean there's certain places that one certain

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Speaker 1: place it can work on it, and that's about it.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a job for one in that sense.

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Speaker 1: So I know we made it and time to spare.

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Speaker 1: I thought you'd come No, yeah, you're safe. Pal came

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Speaker 1: in just fine. So everything going good on that side

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Speaker 1: of things. We are day two of the children's summer

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Speaker 1: vacation on the Ponderosa and and that's going swimming lee um.

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Speaker 1: I at one point looked at my wife this morning

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Speaker 1: And he's pouring stuff around his credit had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good job of cleaning it up. Yes, I had to

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Speaker 1: ride him pretty hard, but he he did clean it

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Speaker 1: up pretty good. Today and I came my wife and

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Speaker 1: she's got some sort of illness. Um, and so she's well,

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Speaker 1: not ill, she has a cold, but she's she's like

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Speaker 1: just laying on the couch. I'm like, can you engage?

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna engage in this? Where are we two

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Speaker 1: of the show? Like, what's going on here? I feel

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Speaker 1: like the inmates are running the asylum. We're like two

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Speaker 1: days in what was boots He's day to summer vacation meal.

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Speaker 1: I told my wife about this last night. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's really excited. He was real excited yesterday to get

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Speaker 1: it going in style. Um yeah, I mean he's off

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Speaker 1: to a great start. He was off to a great start.

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Speaker 1: I um my demerit. I told you I do the demerits.

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Speaker 1: Now where there's certain things that they do. What matters

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Speaker 1: most of them appears to be bedtime. So any time

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Speaker 1: that there is any sort of violation, uh not picking

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Speaker 1: gonna be real thrilled about this. But tonight this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: That's right, it'll be great. The Hey, do you know

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Speaker 1: what happened fifteen years ago today? Fifteen years ago today?

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Speaker 1: I do not Sopranos final episode? Yeah, fifteen years ago today,

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you were probably like, we're of similar age,

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Speaker 1: is it six seasons? Season two is the Ritchie April

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Speaker 1: it was equally as improbable that the Sopranos on HBO

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Speaker 1: pretty sure on the show we were debating how that happened,

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Speaker 1: actually doubled down on that when Michelson said he didn't

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Speaker 1: know and said no, no, he was fast forward to

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Speaker 1: yesterday live event in London. Ship nucks there. Now he

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Speaker 1: wrote a biography on Phil. It's unauthorized, but he wrote

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Speaker 1: and he tweeted that two uh, two guys forcibly removed

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Speaker 1: do that. I would say if I were what I'm

424
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Speaker 1: guessing they want to do, and you can't get in

425
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Speaker 1: his head, what I would guess they want to do

426
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: is a shorter term deal, you know, And he might

427
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: want that too, because the salary cap is gonna go up.

428
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna bet on himself. That's the other thing he

429
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: could do. He could do the Cousins route and be

430
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: franchise tagged and back to back years and then hit

431
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: the open market Cousin style like he could do that

432
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: to bet on yourself. You got a bet against injury

433
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: and everything else. I just I look at it and

434
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: I go, what what am I missing here? What? It's

435
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: always about the money, it is, but at some point, look,

436
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: you're representing yourself. I mean the Ravens have already said

437
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: we're ready to re up you. Well, are you waiting

438
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: for them to make you the offer first? Then you

439
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: you should tell them that, right, Like, that's where you

440
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: need to go with that. You can't just keep going, well,

441
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: it'll get done, it'll get done, it'll get done. What's

442
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: not getting done? It's June tenth and you haven't been

443
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: at any of the off season programs. No. I think

444
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: it could come together quickly though, and it you know what,

445
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: as soon as you it's just that number. You gotta

446
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: get that number where it's something that makes him happy.

447
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: So but it bears watching and it continues to be interesting. Uh.

448
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: Davante Adams with an interesting quote on Aaron Rodgers looming

449
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: retirement is part of the reason why he left Green

450
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: Bay told reporters yesterday. By the way, he also compared

451
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Derek Carr favorably to Aaron Rodgers friend. Yeah, he goes

452
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: because this is a quote, because where I am in

453
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: my career, this isn't a shot at anybody other than

454
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Speaker 1: any any other quarterbacks in Green Bay. I love Jordan

455
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: love especially. He is a great guy. I got aspirations

456
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: of doing really really big things and being remembered, and

457
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: it just really wasn't a point in my career that

458
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Speaker 1: I was willing to sacrifice Aaron not being there after

459
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: a year or two. Yeah, he said he discussed all

460
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: of this with Aaron Rodgers leading up the trade, Like

461
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: every he and Aaron talked through everything for the entire

462
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Speaker 1: offseason leading up to his trade. Rogers seems far more

463
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: ready to retire than even Brady. Yes, I think that

464
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers if if something annoys Aaron Rodgers enough, he

465
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: could retire mid season. Yeah, I know. I think everything's

466
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: in play with him. Um you you just listen to

467
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: him on those the golf stuff, Like it just feels

468
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: like at any point they did that round table and

469
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: at any point it feels like he could call it

470
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: a run. It's yeah, and he's seven years younger than

471
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: Brady or old Buddy Greg Williams for an interim coach

472
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: here defensive coordinator returning to coaching as an assistant in

473
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: the new XFL league. Um, that's pretty perfect. He should

474
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: be the head coach, honestly, yes, and put him on

475
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: a Mike. He should be Mike. He's the he's the

476
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: best SoundBite ever. He is best coaching, best coaching sound

477
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: bite we've ever had. I mean, it's pure joy. Yeah,

478
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he'd salvaged that Hard Knocks season. That thing

479
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: was a debacle. Other than that they picked the wrong

480
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: guys to follow Hugh, to be in Hugh. But Greg

481
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: saved it. Those little bits at the end with Greg

482
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: saved it. You know, he was good. Yeah that Bob

483
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: Wiley Bob huh yeah, set huh yeah Right. I just

484
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: I don't it seems like a thousand years ago XFL again.

485
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they're between that and the other league,

486
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: the USFL, Like, can can both of these be sustained?

487
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: Can they both be here three years from now? I

488
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: don't think so. So what I think is interesting is

489
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: the XFL locations for this So oh the Seattle, So

490
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: it's it's Houston, Is it's Houston, San Antonio, St. Louis, Washington,

491
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Seattle, and there's two more? Is this USFL

492
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: or XFL. It's those six and then there's there's two more.

493
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: They still don't even have team names yet. No, no, Um,

494
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: there's they've all they all have coaches. Though there's eight teams.

495
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm missing too, but I'm pretty sure. Let's see Dallas, oh, Dallas, Orlando,

496
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: San Antonio. Dallas and Orlando would be the other two. St. Louis. Yeah,

497
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: so I had Houston, San Antonio, St. Louis, Washington, Vegas, Seattle,

498
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: and then the other two are Dallas in Orlando. So

499
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: there's your eight. Okay, So can you explain to me

500
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: the thinking? Because the USFL USL was playing all their

501
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: games out of birminghams it doesn't really matter, but can

502
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: you explain to me how or why the entire Midwest

503
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: is skipped out? I mean, we care about football a

504
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: great deal here and there's nothing in Ohio. There's nothing

505
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania and pensions at Midwest, but you get the point. Um,

506
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: there's nothing in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana. Nothing. I mean,

507
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: why are you and why are you putting him in

508
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: NFL cities? I have no idea. I don't know why

509
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: you are, because we're we're You're not gonna Washington mediums,

510
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: are you? No way, I can't imagine that's going to

511
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: be allowed. No, it's you're gonna have to find college

512
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: stadiums or you know whatever. But like, okay, so fine,

513
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: I get the three In Texas, that makes sense, Houston,

514
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: San Antonio, Dallas. Texas is one of the fastest growing states.

515
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: They love their football. That makes sense. St. Louis, I

516
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: guess to think he is. Well, they used to have

517
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: an NFL team, so they'll probably support this. If we

518
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: put one there, they put him in the Dome, probably

519
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: put him in the Dome. Washington, I don't get it

520
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: at all. I don't I don't understand Washington at all.

521
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: They can't get out of their own way at the

522
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: NFL level. Yeah, I don't see that. Orlando, I don't

523
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: get it all either. Like that's a those games are

524
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: gonna be I mean, if it's if it's summer, those

525
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: games gonna be sweat lodge. Well, I mean I get

526
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: it because it's one city in Florida without an NFL

527
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: UH team, and you've had the Pro Bowl there, You've

528
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: you've had there, you have the infrastructure there to do it.

529
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: I just always felt like nobody who's actually from Orlando.

530
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: Everyone's a transperrect, you know, so I don't know that

531
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: anyone would care. I don't know. We'll see Vegas. Everyone's

532
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: going to Vegas now and then Seattle. I don't know.

533
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I just think it's strange that they they skip over

534
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: this entire region. Both the leagues did this. I don't

535
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: understand it. Like Columbus is sitting there. They got all

536
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: that corporate money, they got stadiums, makes all the sense

537
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: in the world to do. You wouldn't be going up

538
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: against Buckeyes, you'd be free of that. I don't know,

539
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: they just skipped it, skipped this entire part of the country. Well,

540
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: and is the XFL gonna be on at the same

541
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: time as the US, Like, are they gonna be sure?

542
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Is it's got to be a spring league. I guess

543
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: he's further along Jeff saying that those are in those

544
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: season because because those the original XFL teams. Fine, but like,

545
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: why would you have to go that was how many

546
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: years ago, like how many people were clamoring for Jeff.

547
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate the the info, but if you're the XFL.

548
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: You already failed, correct, So why do you want to

549
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: back to those cities? Like if they failed, why do

550
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: you want to relive it? And it's not all of them,

551
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: Like there's New York, New Jersey, l A, Memphis, San Francisco, Birmingham, Chicago.

552
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Those were original XFL teams. How many teams do they have?

553
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: In the beginning they had eight? So these aren't, yeah,

554
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: the XFL, these aren't the actual These aren't the original

555
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: XFL teams. The original eight XFL teams were the Birmingham Thunderbirds,

556
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Chicago Enforcers, New York Hitman, Orlando Rage, Las Vegas Outlaws,

557
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Extreme, Memphis Maniacs, in San Francisco Demons. That

558
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: was the original. So this isn't that. This is three

559
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: teams in Texas. There wasn't any in Texas. Um, this

560
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: is St. Louis, Washington. The only ones that are carryovers

561
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: in fact, Orlando, in Vegas. That's it. Everybody else is new.

562
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like you could have put something

563
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: in Chicago well, or or even in that area, like

564
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: if if you yeah, like if you feel like India

565
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: is too small or Columbus is too small, I mean

566
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a market for it here. Cincinnati,

567
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: we you know, you've got the NFL. But yeah, Chicago's

568
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: in the region, like Louisville. I mean, I would look

569
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: at those. I think those mid markets with a lot

570
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: of Look, it used to matter if you were in

571
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: a big market. That doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't matter.

572
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Market size is irrelevant, and if you're developing a league,

573
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: you might be better to put him in some smaller

574
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: cities well to be and and I mean to look

575
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: at the NBA ratings for the Game three that was

576
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: down with the Celtics and Warriors. I mean, San Francisco

577
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: is a top five market in the country, boss, and

578
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: it's the Celtics, for crying out loud, and the ratings

579
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: are down. Yeah, so yeah, I'm not I don't know.

580
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm all in on what they're trying

581
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: to do or what they're trying to accomplish. I don't

582
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: know what. I always thought the straightest path for a

583
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: Now they're scheduled crosses over too much, but I thought

584
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: the straightest path too. If you want more football in

585
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: the United States would be to have a Southern league

586
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: of the CFL. There's the infrastructure, there's historical relevance. Um,

587
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: Like even the year that Baltimore was in there, I

588
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: think they won it one year like they were were

589
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: they the Colts? I think they were the Baltimore CFL

590
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Colts and then the NFL and what you can't do

591
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: that and so they became like the Baltimore Stallions or something.

592
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: But they won the Gray Cup, you know, like that's

593
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: something that's been around a long time. It's there, there's

594
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: the infrastructure. Uh, you know, there's there would be an

595
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: entire country buying into it. Um. But I do think

596
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: there's room for one of these like these these things

597
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: do okay. And as a feeder system the NFL, I

598
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: think it would be good if you could get that

599
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: partnership and association. I just think sometimes the expectations are

600
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: so inflated. Yeah, you have to look at it like

601
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: a you gotta look at it like if we can

602
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: get two million eyeballs, so that's like that's what NHL

603
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: playoffs games are doing. One point nine two million, that's good.

604
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: It's a big time deal if you can deliver those eyeballs, Like,

605
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: don't minimize that, don't compare yourself. I think sometimes we compare.

606
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: They want to compare these spring leagues too, you know

607
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: college football or the NFL. No, don't compare them to MLS.

608
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: Compare them to NHL. Compare them to NBA. That's that's MLB.

609
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Those are the comparisons you're looking for, you know, those

610
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,040
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Speaker 1: Still growing? That's the good news. You know. We've had

622
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Speaker 1: good days, we've had some rough days. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the quarterback room, it's all new stuff. Um. The

624
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,200
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626
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: these installations. We should be getting better in his shows today.

627
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: You talked about in your press conference this is a

628
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Speaker 1: passing camp. You want to get maybe three fifty reps

629
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Speaker 1: on defense. Well, guess what, we have a pretty good

630
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Speaker 1: back seven. So are you getting a lot of good

631
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Speaker 1: looks and a lot of good work against good competition? Oh,

632
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: there's no question. Let that back end for those guys.

633
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean there's they're talented. They're really four deep at corner.

634
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: Even more, the safety plays exceptional. Um, their disguise has

635
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: been really good so far in these O TA st

636
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: the challenge for the quarterback room. Uh talk about to shun.

637
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: What have you seen from here here in these first

638
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: two weeks? O tis very impressive. I mean the skill

639
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: sets phenomenal. I mean they can make every throw in

640
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: the field from all different body positions. It's fun to

641
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: watch as accuracy stands out. UM. You know, the the

642
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: arm strength is another UM characteristic that you're like, wow,

643
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: you know he can he can put it in the

644
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: windows that close quickly. So that's really good. So just

645
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: getting him UM to catch up and learn as quickly

646
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: as he can. But when he when he sees it

647
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: and he fires it, it's it's pretty and it feels

648
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: like it's quick once he makes the decision to throw

649
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: it is not a lot of body motion. It feels

650
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: like it comes out very quick. It comes out quick

651
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: with a great velocity. So those windows they have a

652
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: hard time closing on his balls you talked about he'd

653
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: remind you in some ways of Aaron Rodgers. In what

654
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: ways were of those his mobility? I think his ability

655
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: to make plays outside the pocket and throw off platform. Um,

656
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacks should be able to make plays when

657
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: and everything is perfect at this level. Uh, it's when

658
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: things break down that we have to be great. And

659
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of characteristics of Aaron in

660
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: Deshawn's game when things break down. One thing I've noticed,

661
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: I've talked some other people out here. It feels like

662
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: the middle of the field is back. That we're throwing

663
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: the ball to the middle field attacking it much more

664
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: than perhaps we have in the past. What does that

665
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: do for the offense? Oh, you know, you got to

666
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: defend the whole field at that point, so you're not

667
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: just working outside the numbers. You got to defend the

668
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: whole field. That makes us a better offense. What's kind

669
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: of the evolution you want to see? Given the skill uaid?

670
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: You mentioned the mobility that he brings the table. How

671
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: does that evolve this offense? Uh, you know we're gonna

672
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna extend plays. You know, It's one of the

673
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: areas we've talked about as a group is we're gonna

674
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: be out of the pocket more than we ever have

675
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: so our scramble opportunities when we get out there, we

676
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: have to make him explosive gains. We worked really hard

677
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: um with the whole group of what happens when we

678
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: do extend place. Jacoby bros Said, the guy's quarterback A

679
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: lot in this league started from multiple teams. When you

680
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: have a backup like then, you guys had a great

681
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: one with Case Kingdom as well. What does that do

682
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: for the offense? And how does he look so far?

683
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: He's looked really good. He has a great understanding of

684
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: one protections scheme, um, everything we're implementing. You can see it.

685
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: He's definitely banked a lot of reps, has a ton

686
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: of starts in the NFL, and there's not a lot

687
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: that surprises him. So to have a security blanket like

688
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: that that's played a lot of football is good. You've

689
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: been around a lot of great receivers and Marii Cooper

690
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: is the latest in that long line for you. What

691
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: do you think about his route running? What he's shown

692
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: so far. A tremendous route runner. He's a savvy guy.

693
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: The thing that stands out most is his strength, his

694
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: play strength. You know, he's a big guy that's explosive.

695
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: When you stand across from him and watch him come

696
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: off the ball, Uh, it's scary. So it's good to

697
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: get him in the mix now. And uh, you know,

698
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: as de Shan gets to know him more, there'll be

699
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: a lot of production there. They have a couple of

700
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: guys that I think you're wanting to take leaps. Donovan

701
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: People's Jones has been very good each of the last

702
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: two seasons. Now in the year three, and then Anthony

703
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Schwartz will start with DPJ. How's he kind of fitting

704
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: in and doing so far? Yeah, DPJ is always a pro.

705
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: He does a great job. You know, he plays a

706
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: lot of different spots for us, always consistent, you know,

707
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: it's the big thing he's He's played really well on

708
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: this camp Um had some big catches for Uce. I'm

709
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: really excited where he is Um. And then with Schwartzy, Uh,

710
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: here's the guy that's really starting to gain some confidence now.

711
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: You can see it in his play on the field.

712
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: He understands where he needs to be catching the ball

713
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: very well right now for us. So the air is

714
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: up on both those guys. It feels like with Schwartz

715
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: to like, even from before you guys got into the

716
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: O t is when you're doing just offense on air,

717
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: to where he is now there actually has been significant progress,

718
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: which sure you're excited about because he is the vertical

719
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: guy in this office, no question, you think about these guys,

720
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys have not had this opportunity

721
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: to go through a full O tier with the team setting.

722
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Uh you know for like the Bradley's and the and

723
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: the Schwartz is Nick Harris as those guys, these reps

724
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: are in vialable for him. When you talk about David Bell,

725
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: you guys are all excited. We know coach was excited.

726
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: That's as excited I've seen Kevin's fancy yet about a player.

727
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: How's he looked out here? And it feels like it's

728
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: certainly this week, the last couple of days, he's made

729
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: some big play, especially in the red zone. Yes, and

730
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: it's all these rookies, you know, their heads are swimming

731
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 1: right now. You're putting new plays in every single day,

732
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: and you can see a little bit in his game

733
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: when he's not quite sure. Um, you know this route

734
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: running ability, you know, but when he knows that, it's impressive.

735
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, he had a nice separation on a crossing

736
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: route and practice he's done some good things. So as

737
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: he gains more confidence in himself in this system, we

738
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: expect more production from him too. We've called it a

739
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: passing camp. This is an offense that runs the ball

740
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: quite a bit. We use some twelves and thirteen person

741
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: we've seen some of that. Will probably a little more

742
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: eleven this year. But how do you kind of work

743
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: on that at this time or is that something that

744
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: comes later on? That's we get off to the side.

745
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: You know, we're not banging heads out here at the defense,

746
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: so we do it more of walk through settings versus

747
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: our offensive offensive guys giving us a look on the

748
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: other side. So, um, I think we have four runs

749
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: in a ten play period, it's it's not a lot

750
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: that will come in training camp. This offensive line, the

751
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: depth seems to be very good and getting a guy

752
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: like Chris Hubbard back, and I know Conklin's on his

753
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: way back. Uh. And we haven't edgeole here yet, but

754
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: we've had guys play cants, fills and looks very very good.

755
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: What do you think about this line and how Nick

756
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: Harris is adjusted to be in that guy at center. No,

757
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: I love our offensive line always have. They work hard

758
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: and it shows up for sure. Nick is ready to

759
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: step in. You know, he played well when he stepped

760
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: in last year. We expect him to plug that hole

761
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: from from j C Leaving flawlessly, Jack getting Jack back hubback.

762
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean that's a line that's played a lot of

763
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: football together. Uh. And you can talk about Blake. He's

764
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: played up and down the line in every position. So

765
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: we feel really good about our depth. And I will

766
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: talk tight ends now and the chief. The big news

767
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: signs he's been back the last two days. He's in

768
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: a great condition. It always is, how can he grow

769
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: in this offense now that he's the man right now,

770
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: his big thing is just gonna get more opportunities to

771
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: make place. That's the big thing. For him. His targets

772
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: will definitely go up for us and expect him to

773
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: to show up, which he will. He has already, so

774
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: it's looked good. And we talked about using in the

775
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: middle of the field more and that's oftentimes where the

776
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: tight ends live and his ability to stretch this seam.

777
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: And you go and you put on the tape of

778
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: the Shawan you see beautiful seam balls with tight ends

779
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: that don't have the skills that the chief does. So

780
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: this could be a great marriage for him the offense,

781
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback and now the opportunity. Yeah, there's no question.

782
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: You know, David's worked hard to get into this position

783
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: where he's at and we're happy that that we got

784
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: him signed. He's back. How's Harrison Brant doing now entering

785
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: year three? Really good. He's the guy that understands our system.

786
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing, uh that he misses out there.

787
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's like a coach on the field,

788
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: and you know he's another guy with with whop leaving,

789
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: his targets will go up, his production will go up

790
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: this year. So we got guys, this is an offense,

791
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: like we said, three tight ends off and Miller forstall.

792
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: Looks like he's been that third guy so far and

793
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: it has looked pretty good. And then you've got some projects,

794
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: some some clay coming out of Texas Tech there that's

795
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: pretty impressive and actually catches well, I think, pretty naturally.

796
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: What do you kind of make of the rest of

797
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: that tight end room and has anybody caught your eye?

798
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: It's really a group of guys battling for spots, you know,

799
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: if you get if you get down past Harrison, you know,

800
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: and David uh Miller was here last year, you know,

801
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely guys battling for the spot. They've

802
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: all looked good and at times you know it's just

803
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: gonna be good competition. Move into camp. The running back room,

804
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, not a ton of running here,

805
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: some passing, but they all look good catching the ball.

806
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Cream has had some nice catches and I think Jerome

807
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: Ford has looked real natural for a rookie he has.

808
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that's it's worked hard. Stumps

809
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: doing a great job with him working on the side,

810
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that has a really good running

811
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: ability as well to catch the ball on the backfield.

812
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: So be excited to see him on third down and

813
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: we seem to metric moved back to the receivers that

814
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: just because we haven't had some guys available, or is

815
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: that something that we're going to see as this offseason.

816
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: A little bit of both. He's a he's a utility

817
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: knife for us. You know, one day you'll see him

818
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: in the running back room and if we're short at

819
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver, he goes out and plays wide receiver. But

820
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can do a lot of things

821
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: for us. So, as you sit here today, how do

822
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: you feel about this offense knowing that you have O

823
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: t A is really for the first time we were

824
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: able to really do this in your time here with

825
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: the Browns. How do you feel about it? Even though

826
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: it is a whole new quarterback room as you mentioned,

827
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: sure after very positive. You know, I like our group

828
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: a lot um. Adding to Shawn into the mix, is

829
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, an elite quarterback to come into your starters. Excellent.

830
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Our running game has been as strong at anybody's in

831
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: the league the last few years. So it's exciting times.

832
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: So you got coming up, We've got the mandatory minicamp,

833
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: then the break and training camp. What are you looking

834
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: forward to about the mandatory minicamp and then getting away

835
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure and kind of recharged in the batteries. The

836
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camps just mandatory. You know, we've we've had

837
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: a great attendance here. Hopefully we get Joel back in

838
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: into the building next week and and catch him up

839
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: on some of the changes we've made. But you know,

840
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: looking forward for another two good weeks of work. Um,

841
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: you know, cap it off with a good a couple

842
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: of days of work during the mini camp, and then

843
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: everybody needs to get back, refresh, relax, and then come

844
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: back ready to go into that marathon of the season.

845
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: If you could tell the fans one thing that when

846
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: they come out to training camp they should expect to

847
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: see from this offense, what would it be? A dynamic,

848
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: explosive offense. I think with the run game in in

849
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: our you know, emphasis on the drop back pass game,

850
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: I think we can put some yards and some numbers

851
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: up this year. It'll be a lot of fun. Coach,

852
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: thanks so much for the time, and enjoy the process.

853
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: We'll do, thank you, yeah, big big part of that

854
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: process next week with mandatory minicamp. Continue to lay that

855
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: groundwork at everybody in the fold, Joel back in the mix,

856
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: of course, and and get everybody rolling. But we've seen

857
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: some stuff we haven't seen a lot of before. We've

858
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: seen de Sean and a pistol, you know, with with

859
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: running back directly behind him. We didn't run a lot

860
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: of that traditionally, So Stefanski hasn't run a lot of

861
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: that traditionally. We have seen some of that at O

862
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: T S. So I'm interested to see where some of

863
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: those things go. I think you're gonna get this is

864
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: an offense that is being made on the fly, but

865
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of work that they've already put

866
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: in and laying that groundwork. Yeah, this is a lot

867
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: of install Uh, it's a lot of you know, we're

868
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna show you what to do. Take your playbooks

869
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: when we leave a week from yesterday, and in six weeks,

870
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: have that bad boy memorized because here we go. So,

871
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, I want to say, probably a good chunk

872
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: of what they may or may not be running, they

873
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: probably already have and it's up to them at this

874
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: point to watch tape, study it, figure out what you

875
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: gotta do, memorize it, and be ready to go. But yeah,

876
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: I mean you met Joe Betonia. We haven't seen Joel,

877
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: but he went to he went to the Hamas and

878
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: yeah he doesn't have to he's that knows how to

879
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: do with this. Yeah, he knows what he's doing. It's

880
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: this is this is going to be just so much

881
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: more dynamic offense going forward. The position that they're put

882
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: in and Deshawn's ability to run and pass at the

883
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: level that he can, it just opens a lot of

884
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: things up. So it's gonna be fun when we get

885
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: into camp, and obviously even more fun when we get

886
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: into the actual season and these games start to actually count.

887
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: Coming up at the top of the hour, Anthony Posts

888
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: will join us here in studio, our senior staff writer

889
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: will join us. We'll go over some of the headlines

890
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,480
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891
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Speaker 1: Anthony points all, good to see you, Bud, Great to

909
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: see you two both. Great to be back on the show. Yeah,

910
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: so we you know, we've been our our O t

911
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: as have been incredibly well attended. A lot of big

912
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: work has gotten done, but then next week it ramps

913
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: up a bit. There are a lot of things that

914
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: are interesting. Chief among them will be an ability all

915
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: these all these mandatory mini camps will be open to everybody,

916
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: so you're gonna get a full look at our offense

917
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson, Based on what you've seen from this month,

918
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: what are the biggest differences from what this offense looked

919
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: like last year? And again, that's a passing camp, is

920
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: really all this is, um. But but based on what

921
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: you've seen, what are some of the biggest differences. Yeah,

922
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you stressed it's a past camp because

923
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. UM. You know, I think

924
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: now it's kind of like they're they're experimenting. So what

925
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm about to say to answer your question is not

926
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: necessarily what we're what we might see in training camp,

927
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: but it is still signed sort of a you know,

928
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: a sneak peek at what they're thinking of kind of using,

929
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, the mobility that DeShawn Watson has, the arm strength,

930
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: his ability to kind of throw on the run. So UM,

931
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: I would say for me, some of the things I

932
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: noticed in O t S was just how frequently they

933
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: were kind of doing like you know, pre snap motion plays, um,

934
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, just macmaking plays that can maybe throw the

935
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: defense off guard. Maybe we'll see, um, you know, in

936
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: many camping and training came abe, we'll see some read

937
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: option plays because it's like, you know, the team defenses

938
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: know that Deshaun has you know, he's got speed, so um,

939
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: how will they kind of prepare for that? So I

940
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: think they're going to kind of open up the playbook

941
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more in that regard. Now, you know,

942
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: play action was obviously a huge part of the passing

943
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: playbook before, UM, and I think that could still be,

944
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: you know, a really big part of what they kind

945
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: of keep in in this playbook with um, DeShawn and

946
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: nearly quarterbacks they have now at you know, in the room,

947
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: so UM, I think we'll see a lot more sort

948
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: of that that pre step motion style, you know, like

949
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: stuff that's gonna keep the defense guessing, Okay, is DeShawn

950
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna maybe hold the ball here? Is you're gonna roll

951
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: out to his level, to his right, like use that

952
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: speed element of his game. Um, And we'll kind of

953
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: see here next week and in mini camp if that's

954
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the direction they're going towards. Because

955
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, it's gonna be uh full personnel.

956
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: We'll we'll be able to see, um, everybody on offense,

957
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: we'll be able to see everybody on defense. And I

958
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: think that would be a really good time for the

959
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: coaching staff to kind of roll out some of the

960
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: things that they're thinking about, um, you know, putting it

961
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: adding to the playbook with uh, you know, this new

962
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: look passing offense they have, you can't help but want

963
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: to throw a lot of r p O. I mean,

964
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: you know you put that in there. One of the

965
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: things our fans always have been clamoring for is you know,

966
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: Nick and Corene him on the field at the same time.

967
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: And you know the thing with that is you always

968
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: then you're taking a receiver off the field, that type

969
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: of thing. But you could see that now with the

970
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: fact of of Deshaun in between them. Which way are

971
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: we going with these things? It's just one more thing

972
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: you have to deal with. You have to account for

973
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's speed and that's something that that there aren't

974
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: that many teams in the league that have that ability,

975
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: that that type of threat running the football, and Stefens

976
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: is going to use that to his advantage, right And

977
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: like our coaching you know, the coaching stuff is talking

978
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: about maximizing his abilities, and I feel like using you know,

979
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: RPOs is kind of one way that you can do that.

980
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: You know, like the defense knows that Deshawn's got speed,

981
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: so why not make sure you use that to your

982
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: advantage kind of maybe throw a little different wrinkles and

983
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: like the pre snapmotion like I was saying, you know,

984
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: like stuff that's gonna throw them off. It's gonna keep

985
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: them guessing every single play and they're not going to

986
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: know what's coming based on personnel. Um, you know, you

987
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: saw how well RPOs worked when with Lamar Jackson Baltimore,

988
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's the same deal here, Like you know,

989
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: they got two good running backs that they can use

990
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: that it really helps when you're kind of running that

991
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: type of offense. So, um, I'm not saying it's gonna

992
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: be totally like what Baltimore is righting, That's what I'm saying, No, no, no,

993
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: but like they could kind of opened up a little

994
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: bit more expand beyond just sort of using that play

995
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: action element to keep the defenses guessing and um, you know,

996
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: really kind of take advantage of the fact that they

997
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: have a quarterback here that is is fast and knows

998
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: how to you know, make defenders miss when he's running

999
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: in the open field. He's playing that system his whole life,

1000
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: so it's something he's very, very comfortable with UM. You

1001
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: mentioned we have we have two good that we've got

1002
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: like five good running backs, and it's actually probably one

1003
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: too many. You know, Dimitri has been playing a lot

1004
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: of receiver in the O T A S and and

1005
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: we heard a VP with with Z just a second

1006
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: ago talking about, Hey, look like he's our Swiss Army knife.

1007
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Is there a room for all these guys? I mean,

1008
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: this isn't a question for next week. There's a training

1009
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: camp question. But Ernest's deal gets done. So you've got

1010
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: Nick and and Cream at the top. You've got Durnest

1011
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: right there for it's been awfully impressive, and then Felton.

1012
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna depend on sort of what Jerome

1013
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: Ford is kind of be able to show in training camp.

1014
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, is he able to be not only just

1015
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: a good running back, but maybe somebody that UM can

1016
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: catch assis, you know, take those screenplays. UM. I think

1017
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big part of it. I know.

1018
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, it's just a very crowded room.

1019
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: And the fact that now Dearness is locked under you

1020
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: know for for this year. UM, there's just so much

1021
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: depth and you know, we can have we can talk

1022
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: so many different scenarios. It's also gonna depend on, you know,

1023
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: the other offensive positions. How many receivers do they want

1024
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: to keep? Do they few demetric as, more of a

1025
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver, running back? Like those are all like the

1026
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: major factors that are going to go into Okay, how

1027
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: many running backs are they going to keep? Now, if

1028
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: you count demetric as are running back, they kept four

1029
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: last year. Um so that's sort of like the number

1030
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: I have in my head right now of like, okay,

1031
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: that's what they're working with. Maybe if they're still doing

1032
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: demetric as somebody that's penciled into that running back position,

1033
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: then um, you know, I don't know how they sort

1034
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: of play things. I think it's somewhere. You know, if

1035
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: you keep all five, then you're gonna hit the pull

1036
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: from somewhere to make it. But I think you're rome.

1037
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: Four is definitely a player to watch us because that

1038
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: is going to be sort of a difference maker and

1039
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: how many running backs they want to keep this season.

1040
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: He's been awfully impressive. He certainly has flashed up. You

1041
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: mentioned the receivers, and I think when you you listen

1042
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: to our fan base as we stay with the offensive

1043
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: conversation for a moment. The thing that they keep that

1044
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: I keep hearing is do we have enough receivers? Do

1045
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: we have the guy the other guy on the opposite

1046
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: side of of our opposite side or slaughter or wherever

1047
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: you need a guy to take the top off the defense. Well,

1048
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: I think we think Anthony Schwartz can be that. We

1049
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: had him in here yesterday. He feels like he's poised

1050
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: to go, but he's got to do it. He's got

1051
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: to do it on the field. Um, I'll be very

1052
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: curious to see what it looks like with him next week.

1053
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: What have you seen from him in this month leading

1054
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: up to it? Yeah, I mean he definitely looks more

1055
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: comfortable and confident when he's going to last scrimmage. That

1056
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: was something that he actually, um, you know, said we

1057
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: was talking with the media earlier this week. So Um,

1058
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: he's definitely looked fine. Obviously, just the fact that you know,

1059
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: last year he dealt with injuries, right, So just the

1060
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: fact that this year he's been able to be out

1061
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: there for every single practice is a huge step forward

1062
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: and sort of how he kind of prepares for this season.

1063
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: So um, and then when you hear from you know,

1064
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Chattosha and Kevin when they're talking about him, like they

1065
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: have pretty high hopes for him. I think that's part

1066
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: of a reason why they really haven't explored up the

1067
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: other free agency options that are out there right now receivers,

1068
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Like they want to get these guys a chance to

1069
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: step into a bigger role this year, not just Shorts,

1070
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: but you know Donovan People's jones as well, sort of

1071
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: see what David Bell can do. Um, but specifically with Shorts.

1072
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he has looked, looked comfortable and just like

1073
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: I said, you know, the fact that he's been able

1074
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: to just be healthy and practice is such a huge

1075
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: step for him. Um. You know he said that he's

1076
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: he's just feeling more refreshed. He feels like comfortable. Like

1077
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: last year he literally said it. He was step up

1078
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: to the line scrimmage and he's like, um, you know,

1079
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: how I how can I mess this play up? Like

1080
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: it's like that's not what you want. That's all what

1081
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: you want to have your in your head when when

1082
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: you're when you're a rookie receiver right or any position.

1083
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: So um So, the fact that he's now like he's

1084
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: more confident himself, he's more confident to playbook and what

1085
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: he can kind of do and and beating a receiver

1086
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: on each play. I think is is a good step.

1087
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: And we'll have to see you over mini camp and

1088
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: training camp. Um how that looks you know on the field. Yeah,

1089
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I I think it's a necessity because

1090
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: I I amn with a lot of the fans on

1091
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: this like they we do need that. We need that

1092
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: deep threat down that chief can do that. You know,

1093
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: so you have that a little bit, but you do

1094
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: need that burner somewhere. You need you need somebody else

1095
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: to be dynamic. We feel like Donal when people Jones

1096
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: can stake a big leap and then David Bell is

1097
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: somebody who's coming and just been looks like he's ready

1098
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: to go. But it is three young guys opposite Amori.

1099
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: I do feel like there's that someone's needs needs to

1100
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: grab the bit a little bit there. Yeah, definitely, And

1101
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I think it would help that just the fact that

1102
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, Deshawn's he's a good quarterback. He's gonna be

1103
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: able to put the ball in the spots that they

1104
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: need to be and um, so that's going to help

1105
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: out in their in their development. A lot too. Um.

1106
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's three year, right, It's three

1107
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: young guys, and I think they're kind of banking on

1108
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: having you know, at least two. I mean they want

1109
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: all of them obviously, but like I haven't at least

1110
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: two of them really kind of step up and take

1111
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: that big leap this year. Um, because all of them,

1112
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, like when they drafted Schwartz and DBJ, they

1113
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: were like very very high on them, and but you

1114
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: knew that it was going to take a year or

1115
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: two to develop, right, So I know, you know, we

1116
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: had the Week one game with Schwartz last year where

1117
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: he made you know, that one big four yard catch

1118
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, okay, maybe he'll there be a

1119
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: would have that a couple of times of course of

1120
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: the year, and it just it didn't pan out, and

1121
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, injuries and other things like that kind of

1122
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: played into that. Um. But now that he's healthy, comments like,

1123
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: he's definitely one of the top candidates that kind of

1124
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: stepping that bigger role. And um, you know, I think

1125
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: having a Mari in that room will help too. He's

1126
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna require a lot of attention, and uh,

1127
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: I think that'll sort of, you know, make it easier

1128
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: for those guys to sort of step into that big

1129
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: role that they're the coaching staff sees from them this year.

1130
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Let's do one on the opposite side. Uh, let's do

1131
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: a couple. Let's start in the middle at defensive line.

1132
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: This is kind of the one position group where you

1133
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: gotta have a couple of guys really step up. Now

1134
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: we like a lot of these guys, but we're there.

1135
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: I do think there needs to be some big separation

1136
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: needs to take place in camp, but we'll get a

1137
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: little head start on that next week. Yeah, definitely. I mean,

1138
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, they've had Taven Brian and Jordan Elliott and

1139
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: there so far. Um, I think they We're also going

1140
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: to kind of wait and see if if Perry on

1141
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: Winterfrere is a guy that can kind of step in

1142
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to say immediately, but like at least

1143
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: over the course of the season kind of step in

1144
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: and maybe become a guy that's taken you know of

1145
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: the snaps is a big part of that rotation. Um,

1146
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's a guy that was a lot of

1147
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: people thought was gonna be in the second round and um,

1148
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Kiffins sent some very high things about him,

1149
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: just about how he's coming. He's he's he's checked every

1150
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: box that they kind of hope that he could check

1151
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: off he got into, which obviously one of those is

1152
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: just bringing in that high energy like he literally said,

1153
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: Chris Kiffin literally said that, um, he's not He's not. Uh,

1154
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be anything in training camp that he's

1155
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: not ready for as far as just like from an

1156
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: energy standpoint. So, UM, I think he's a guy that

1157
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: that would be worth watching, like a huge guy, actually

1158
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: worth watching over training camp to see how he develops.

1159
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: But for now, like you said in the interior, it's um,

1160
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: it's Taven Brian and Jordan Elliott that we're taking those

1161
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: first team snaps, and they're pretty high on them too.

1162
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Kiffin thinks that, uh, maybe a scheme

1163
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 1: change and just to change of scenery for Tavin Bryant

1164
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: is going to be what kind of springs him into

1165
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: that UM career that you kind of maybe thought he

1166
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: could have as a first round pick in two thousand

1167
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: and eighteen. Um. And then with Jordan Elliott, he just said,

1168
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of coaches say this

1169
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: about players, but it's it's he's he's gotten more muscle. Uh.

1170
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: This is his third year in the league now, and um,

1171
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: that's normally when you expect the guy that was draft

1172
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: in the third round, like Jordan Elliott was to sort

1173
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: of take that step. Um, and I think they're they're

1174
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: really high on him. Yeah. The back seven is so

1175
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: good across the board, and that's going to help out

1176
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot too with the interior. Like, oh my gosh,

1177
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: those three corners are just outrageous and Newsome is going

1178
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: to take a huge leap this year. You know. Health,

1179
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: it's health for everybody, but that trio is really special.

1180
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: The safeties are special. I think Jacob Phillips at linebacker

1181
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: is something. But again, health gotta be healthy, gotta be healthy. Yeah,

1182
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: but that was one of the interesting things that kind

1183
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: of came out of ot S two was just seeing him,

1184
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, take those take the snaps at the mic position. Um,

1185
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: because that would be a big adjustment for the defense. Uh.

1186
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean Rock right now is packing what she got

1187
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: eight helmets it's at least yeah, and then another like

1188
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: Scarlet got like more helmets on the star Will Scarlett's

1189
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: packet and helmets around should take one put them on.

1190
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, she's yeah, but I'm getting after God bless her.

1191
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, as I was saying, you know, just you know,

1192
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Greg Newsome is going to be such a weapon. I

1193
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: think his defense over the future is just because he

1194
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: has He's going to have that capability to play in

1195
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: the slot and on the outside, and that's gonna be

1196
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: really big because you know, you know, injuries are are

1197
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna happen at that position eventually, and as long as

1198
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's gonna be able to be that plug

1199
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: and play guy anywhere. You know. I think there they

1200
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: would feel confident in him being that number one corner

1201
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: back for a week if he needed and uh, and

1202
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: he's Um, he's really kind of developed exactly as they

1203
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: hoped when they draft him in the first round last year. UM.

1204
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: And then just getting Denzel locked down for so long

1205
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: was so huge too. Um And then yeah, we'll see.

1206
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: It feels like with him, people are finally like around

1207
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: the league or taking notes, like once the contract people

1208
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: started looking into his play. Oh he's this good. Jamar

1209
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: Chase had that comment a couple of weeks ago about

1210
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: him being at the top level of guys that he

1211
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: couldn't shake. I mean, he's like a scion assassin. There's

1212
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: there's there's a few games every single year where it's like, okay,

1213
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: this is like a sort of like a Marquee matchup.

1214
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: But Tim versus one of the top receivers in the league,

1215
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: if I mean, it kind of happens every single week

1216
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: now with how many good receivers there are in the

1217
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: A f C. But um, you know, he's he's a

1218
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: guy that that they definitely would feel comfortable shutting down

1219
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: any corner in any wide receiver in the league now

1220
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: and that's, um, that's just a huge asset to have

1221
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: for the next what is it five five years now,

1222
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: four or five years so um yeah, And he's he's

1223
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: still he's still young. I mean, he's still entering his prime.

1224
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: So um, I mean he could be getting even better,

1225
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about. But yeah. All right.

1226
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: CBS Sports ranked their top six seen A f C

1227
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: and NFC quarterbacks. What's your biggest beef uh beef A

1228
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: f C NFC? What what jumps out? Well, I would say, well,

1229
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: the first thing that jumps out is just how much

1230
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 1: better the A f C quarterbacks are compared to the NFC.

1231
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: But this really kind of helps. I mean, the one

1232
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: thing that I looked at was like, right when you

1233
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: get sort of like the middle of the pack as

1234
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: far as the numbers, like, you get to the six

1235
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: seven range and it's like, okay, in the a f C,

1236
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: that's quarter there. Ranky gets the mar Jackson and DeShawn

1237
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: Watson and it's like those are pretty too, two good guys, right,

1238
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: And then you kind of get to where that is

1239
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: in the NFC and you get like Jalen Hurts, Kirk Cousins,

1240
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and it's just like okay, So the a

1241
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: f C, I mean, we knew this before we looked

1242
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: at the list, but seeing that it actually like listed out,

1243
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: it made it stand out just how much better the

1244
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the a f C are and how competitive

1245
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: that that conference is probably gonna be this year. You

1246
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: can go ten eleven quarterbacks in the ten eleven teams

1247
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: in the a f C that are there's probably more

1248
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: than that that view themselves as playoff contenders. There's probably

1249
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: eight to ten that think if things go their way,

1250
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: they can win the Super Bowl. And this is why,

1251
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: because there are that many franchise quarterbacks, even the guys

1252
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the list in the A F

1253
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: c UM. I mean, they have Davis Mills sixteenth, But

1254
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean even the guys, you guys around that, like

1255
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson at fifteen. I'm not big too, not big

1256
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: on Kenny Pickett, but but Wilson certainly has a high ceiling.

1257
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: They have Trevor Lawrence twelve. If you're redrafting the quarterbacks

1258
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: in league, Lawrence is going to go pretty high, right right.

1259
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's such a load of this.

1260
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Speaker 1: Like the only quarterback that you're like, Okay, we're not

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Speaker 1: really sure about this guy is like Davis Mills at

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Speaker 1: the bottom, right, Like all the other guys that are

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of that pack are mainly guys that

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01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: haven't really had a chance yet. I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: make the exception with TA, but like Kenny, Zack Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, mack Jones, like these are all guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, all of them are just now starting out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if I'm wondering if Russell Wilson's too

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Speaker 1: high on this list. That's why I had Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: So I did a little rerank myself. I put Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson down at five, and it was mainly because I

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Speaker 1: thought Joe Burrow belongs at three, especially this year, just

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01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals are gonna have a better offensive line.

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01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: Jo seventy sacks last year, doesn't Burrow have to be

1275
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: ahead of Herbert? And people are marvel at Herbert's strength.

1276
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: But like Joe Brow just took the big was the

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Speaker 1: team last year that nobody was considering for all the time,

1278
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: right he completed seventy of his passes, he was clutch.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, I would have him third. I think

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Speaker 1: I think Herbert still, I mean, belongs to that top

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Speaker 1: four I have. I have Joe Brow at three and

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Speaker 1: Herbert four, um and then Russell Wilson at at five.

1283
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: Although I would say with Russell like I wouldn't be

1284
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: surprised if it's not instantaneous success in Denver just because

1285
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: it's a new it's a new like system for him.

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01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it Denver's like adopting or system

1287
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: like well, but but was so interesting about him was

1288
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: like he had this always had this beef with Seattle.

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: It's like they paid him they now, I mean they

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01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: he had met Katherine Lockett, like, how much help do

1291
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: you need? Like that's pretty good, right, So, I mean,

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have like some younger receivers there. Obviously,

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy is Jerry connection Handler, right handler. Um so,

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Speaker 1: I mean we'll see how it goes. He's still, I

1295
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: mean a really good quarterback. When we comparing him for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the ANFC, it's actually kind of crazy

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01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: that he's that he's five, But it's just because there's

1298
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: so many good quarterbacks in that in that conference, and um,

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Speaker 1: I mean this, we saw how competitive it was last year,

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01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: and like, I think there's a chance that it's even

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01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: even more competitive this year. Yeah, I'm with you. I

1302
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: think that's kind of my only beef on the NFC

1303
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: side of the side of things. I mean, it falls off.

1304
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: The fall off is so quick. I don't really have

1305
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: any problem with one through five. No, I didn't either,

1306
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: Like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Stafford, Like that makes

1307
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: that adds up and then that's his eight dude, I know. Yeah,

1308
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: Like like so eight is Carson Wentz and eight in

1309
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: the a f C is Derek Carr, which is like

1310
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: like there's a big difference there. Right, so um. But yeah,

1311
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean once you get past like eight, you get

1312
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Speaker 1: to James at the bottom of this. That's what I'm saying, Well,

1313
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: I forget who I forget you put this list together.

1314
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: But at fourteen, it was like he just threw a

1315
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: bunch of it was like Sam Donald, Mariotta, genius. Smith's right,

1316
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: here's the points sport. He's got Winson at nine, Lance

1317
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: at ten, who we've never even seen. I mean, like,

1318
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: you can't have golf twelve quite frankly, you can't have

1319
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: golf behind Wentz, right. I actually I think now with

1320
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: the you know, receiving corps at the lines have kind

1321
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: of put together now with you've got Amon Ross st Brown,

1322
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: d J Hark, Jameson Williams, Like that's one of the

1323
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: better receiving classes in the UM. Obviously that that's a

1324
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Jared Goff to you know, deliver

1325
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: at the level that he should be delivering at with

1326
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: a receiver class like that. But yeah, I thought Jared

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01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: Goff at twelve was was a little low. I wouldn't

1328
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: be surprised if like he plays more towards the middle

1329
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: of the pack um compared to X. I mean it

1330
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: was rough last year. But um, but yeah, like I

1331
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: think Justin Fields is another guy that could take off

1332
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: if he had the kind of receiving corpse that the

1333
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: Lions had, Like, honestly, you should prosecute Hey. No, his

1334
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: best receivers is Darna Mooney, who nothing against Darna Moon.

1335
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: He's a good receiver, but like the fact that he's

1336
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: the number one after you know, they lose Allen Robinson

1337
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: and there were so many good free agent wide receivers

1338
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: in free agency and that's your number one is is

1339
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: Darna Mooney and your number two is Byron Pringle, who

1340
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs. Yeah, so you can't do that to

1341
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. Would you take Jared Goff over Justin

1342
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: Fields given the supporting cast right now? But I take

1343
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: the situation for sure, Yeah, I would take off. You

1344
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: would take golf over Fields? Would you take golf over Lance?

1345
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: I would take golf, Yes, for sure, I would take

1346
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: him over Hurts and Wentz. Yeah, I probably have him. Yeah.

1347
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: And like the thing with Tray Lance is like we

1348
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: haven't really seen any of him, and it's like where

1349
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: the nyer's hiding him? Because he was just like I mean,

1350
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: I thought when they draft him. Last year's sort of

1351
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: the expectation was like, Okay, he's gonna end up starting

1352
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: the games at some point during the season, and that

1353
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: just never really came together. So um, yeah, No, to

1354
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 1: answer a question, Gibs, I would be taken Jared Goff

1355
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: just because of the situation. I think. I just feel

1356
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: like this guy has a mark on him since being

1357
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: traded to the Lions. Is he is he great? Probably not?

1358
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: But is he more than serviceable? Yeah? He played in

1359
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and he's got it. He's got a

1360
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: better supporting cast this year. He's got a second year

1361
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: under under you know, Dan Campbell. So it's he's like

1362
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: a younger Garoppolo. I mean it's the same type of thing.

1363
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: Like it's he's you know, like, is he that much

1364
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: different than cousins. I don't know. To me, it all

1365
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: feels like it's the same. Yeah, cars who's ranked at six?

1366
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean I know he I think he did like

1367
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: it was seven receptions last year. Here's the deal with him,

1368
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: Fantasy people love him, right, They love because he doesn't

1369
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't throw interceptions. He puts big yardage up, but

1370
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: in the big moments a lot. When's the last time

1371
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: the Vikings have won like a big mustman game waiting

1372
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: a season. I don't even think they've had like one

1373
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: or two playoff appearances. They had. They had the one

1374
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: win in the Minneapolis Miracle that was case Keenum at quarterback.

1375
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's right. Did they win down in

1376
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans once? Did Did Cousins win down that the phantom?

1377
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: They never called the past interference? Yeah, yeah, that's that's right.

1378
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah there should have been, yeah, but there wasn't. No,

1379
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: But that's it. That's what you're waiting on, like, well,

1380
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: where are your moments? Man? Like at some point, I

1381
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: mean they have a great cast, like Theelan and Jefferson Cook. Yeah,

1382
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: great cast is just not not coming together. I think

1383
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: I think this is a big, big year for Jalen's

1384
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to kind of maybe

1385
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: move into that top five this year just because now

1386
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: they have a j Brown. He's got under him, right,

1387
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: he's out of excuses and you know, I think he's

1388
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: still got mobility as part of his game, which is

1389
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: a big part of um. What a lot of quarterbacks

1390
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: kind become quick risers in this league now is if

1391
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: they're able to also make plays with their feet. So um,

1392
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. It's a make or break here

1393
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: for a lot of the guys in this NFC list though.

1394
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: It really is. Yeah, you can see a lot of turnover.

1395
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: Good talk to you is always, buddy, Thanks for stop.

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Speaker 1: All right. Anthony Poistle joining us here in studio on

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Speaker 1: of a couple other things. So, um, let's see. This

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Speaker 1: is from John cost Us. Um, we were talking yesterday

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Speaker 1: about ideas for Scottsdale. Uh for golf TPC Scottsdale Public

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Dude, he's running a chamber of commerce. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that just happened. Yeah. Uh, let me attend

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Speaker 1: Bobby stuff here, all right? From Bobby favorite SNL sketch.

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: I just wanted like we gotta give him his due.

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: He and sales sketched. Well. The ones that jump out

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Speaker 1: to me that we're the funniest of my youth are

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Speaker 1: the Chris Farley ones like the van down by the river. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the when that originally aired. That was at a time

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Speaker 1: in my life where I would watch SNL. I was

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Speaker 1: in middle school at that time. That was something like

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01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: I was watching SNL every Saturday night. Like I was

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01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: watching it. I was dialed in. So that era like

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Speaker 1: him and Mike Myers with all of the absurdity with

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Speaker 1: sprockets and all that stuff like that was must see.

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: The that was crazy like what some of the suff

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: Myers was doing. But that that the Chippendale's one with

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Speaker 1: Farley like those were always weekend updates with Sandler and

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Speaker 1: Norm always always great. But the operamn stuff, the I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you from the Feral era, the one where the

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Speaker 1: hot tub with the meats and all that when him

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01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: and the wife would sit the hot tub. I mean

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01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: that was unbelievable. With Farrell, Um, there was one Bill

1445
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: Hayter did where he was the guy from UM, I

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: Drink your milkshake. That was just perfect. Uh. Those are

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01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: some of the ones that jump out. I'm sure there's

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: stuff I'm missing, and there's so many, so many during

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Speaker 1: that air Eddie Murphy that's before my teams, but are unbelievable. Yeah,

1450
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: clips are unbelievable, just before my time A little bit.

1451
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: Uh well, going back to our conversation about the sopranos.

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: You know, remember that the Journey song Don't Stop. What

1453
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: song do you want played at your funeral? From Bobby Meshling. Oh,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, my way. That's pretty good. That's a good

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Speaker 1: pull by you. Yeah. I mean it's we're not getting

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: any prep on these, like we're just getting hit with

1457
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: Bobby's stuff out of the blue. So yeah, that's the

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Speaker 1: first thing that came to my mind. I don't know,

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01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: I gotta think about that. Yeah, there's that one in

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01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: the there's that romantic comedy that I watched. It was

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: at the Christmas with my wife, um love actually where

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Speaker 1: where the wife dies and she plays bye bye Baby,

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Speaker 1: bye bye at the funeral. I thought, that's kind of good.

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Speaker 1: That is good. That's pretty good. The first thing that

1465
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: came to my mind was like, drop kick Murphy's sailing

1466
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: up to Boston and let's just go have a rager

1467
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: at the pub in honor of me. I'm fine, in

1468
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: honor of you. Yeah. Uh, if your house was on

1469
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: fire but your family and pets were safe, what three

1470
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: things would you grab if my house were on fire

1471
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: and my family and pets were safe. What would I grab? Um?

1472
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: I have a couple of I mean there there's a

1473
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: couple of like jewelry things that that I would grab. Um,

1474
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: my phone, that would seem to be an important thing.

1475
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: You'd want to be able to call people of the

1476
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: your department especially, um, and I have a couple of

1477
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: bottle of bottles of whiskey that would be easy to

1478
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: grab and run with. Gotcha, Yeah, Um, what are you grabbing, Gibby?

1479
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: I have a I have a terabyte that has like

1480
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: all of my photos and I've uploaded over the years,

1481
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: from music to photos. I would definitely grab that. Um. Yeah,

1482
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: I think definitely a phone is in play. That's going

1483
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: to be an important item. I don't just make sure

1484
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: everybody's safe and we'll figure out the rest. I feel

1485
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: like the rest can be replaced. I might throw my

1486
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: golf clubs in the fire and try to get a

1487
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: new set. It might be frowned upon. Um, what was

1488
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: your first concert? Um? It was, well, my first one

1489
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: was Alabama when I was a kid in Montana State

1490
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: Fair when I was a really little kid. I remember

1491
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: my parents took me to see Alabama and then, um,

1492
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 1: my first is like me as a adolescent was Bush

1493
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: and Deep Blue something. It blew something opening for Bush. Well,

1494
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: then they do uh breakfast did Breakfast Antiffanies and that

1495
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was my Q one four days. Yeah,

1496
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 1: that was there and then that that was around. So

1497
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: then Pearl Jam used to open every world tour in Missoula,

1498
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 1: Montana because Jeff meant from Montana. Uh so that was

1499
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: always a must um. But that was all around that

1500
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: same time. There was also I feel like I saw

1501
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: I did see Bush twice because I was also saw

1502
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: them with the It was no doubt in bushes, no

1503
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: doubt open for buschau Is Gavin and Gwenn. Then away

1504
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: they went yeah, yeah, uh mine was Milli Minili. I'm

1505
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: not kidding. How here? Yeah, at the Colosseum, come on

1506
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: the rain. I mean they guys could bring a hit man.

1507
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: They absolutely could fantasy who knew that they weren't singing?

1508
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: No right? Who cared? Uh yeah, my uncle took me

1509
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Uh. I can't even ask you this in

1510
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: the event someone's listening. What is one thing you don't

1511
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: want your kids finding out about your past? Too long

1512
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: and too distinguished? Bobby, Yeah, there's a follow up to that. Too,

1513
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: but uhez. If you could have dinner with anyone from history,

1514
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: who would it be? My god, Bobby, anyone from history? Yes,

1515
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Julius Caesar warning about brutus. I don't know.

1516
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. I got. I got that. There's

1517
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ways you can go with that

1518
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: when anyone in history. Yeah, I don't I gotta have

1519
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: someone who knows how to have a little fun. It'd

1520
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: be a stick in the mud. Yeah, I think that's

1521
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 1: a you know, they did that that episode of curb

1522
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: on that like are you a middle or you an end?

1523
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: Like that like type of thing like l D would

1524
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: be fun to have dinner with l D. I would imagine, Um, Yeah,

1525
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that's tricky. Good jibing a Bobby. Yeah,

1526
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: there were like forty questions. Just come in a little snippet,

1527
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: he comes in out, all right, we'll do a little

1528
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: higher lower coming up next. Us to clean Brown's Daily

1529
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: on ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland. Lots

1530
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: of bad advice out there about gambling, from secret methods

1531
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: to picking lottery numbers to betting big when you're on

1532
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: a roll of the mist can lose your money and

1533
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: get you a lot of rouble in the process. So

1534
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: before you wage or find out what's real and what

1535
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: isn't at keep it fun Ohio dot Com. Uh, this

1536
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: is on Twitter, so I'm guessing it must be true,

1537
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: miss X tweeting me this is the woman who got

1538
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: through six years of college listening to you daily. My

1539
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 1: cousin dated the guy from the band who made breakfast

1540
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: at Tiffany's when she was a teen, long before he

1541
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: became famous. Good job what her cousin dated the guy?

1542
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: And that's that group, that deep blue something group. Apparently.

1543
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's on Twitter, it must be real. I

1544
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: mean she tweeted at you so sure, so she knows it.

1545
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be something that you would just randomly going No.

1546
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: I mean, who would claim such a thing. I don't

1547
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: think so. Okay, there's a catchy tune. I gotta feel

1548
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: it was a one hit wonder. No no, no, no

1549
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: no no no. They might have tried, but I don't

1550
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: remember seeing anything else. No know that it felt like

1551
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 1: that was it? Yeah? A little higher or lower? Presented

1552
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: by our great friends at the Ohio Lottery. Paula is

1553
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna play. I know you're just finding out. It

1554
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: sounds good, It'll be great. UM today in honor of

1555
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: Mr Bishop and other position. Uh, the top twenty five

1556
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: coach rankings in college football, per Bill Bender are good

1557
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: Friend and the Sporting News are the following coaches? Should

1558
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: the following coaches be higher, closer to number one? Or

1559
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: lower closer to number thirty two? Paula's hit it lower?

1560
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: All right? Uh? Number one was Nick Saban. Are we

1561
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: all in agreement that Nick Saban number one? Yeah, there's

1562
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: no conversation we had around that the number two could be.

1563
01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: Though number two is Debbo Sweeney Clemson higher lower or

1564
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: just right? Bishop. Look, it can be accurate that no

1565
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: one has built something more impressive quicker than Dabbo Sweeney.

1566
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's as impressive as any build you've seen.

1567
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: Like he took the natural things that Clemson had going

1568
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: from them, but he took clemsoning and then all of

1569
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: a sudden he got Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence, and

1570
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: he won two national titles at a place that last

1571
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: sniffed one in the early eighties and was known mostly

1572
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: as choke artist. So you can be appreciative of all

1573
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: of that, and also say that he has lost his fastball.

1574
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: Because those two things are true. He's not recruiting at

1575
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: the level he was a couple of years ago. Um,

1576
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: this is a big, big year for hit them. They're

1577
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: really good on the defensive line. Djong is back at

1578
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: quarterback for them, but they need him to be really good.

1579
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: They were awful last year offensively, he should not be

1580
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 1: too though. It should be Kirby Smart. Kirby Smart should

1581
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: be too. He just won the national title. Um, he

1582
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: has recruited at a level that is very high. You

1583
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: could argue Dabo versus Ryan Day. They have Ryan Day

1584
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: at four. I think Dabbo should be ahead of Day,

1585
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: but I think it's close. Um, but I think the

1586
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: guy that number three should be number two, and that's

1587
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. Uh Nick Paul with Bo. Kirby should absolutely

1588
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: be number two. Dabbo. You could argue for three or four,

1589
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: but just because of the two national championships. But I

1590
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: think that that's mainly due to De Shaun as well

1591
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: as Trevor. But yeah, there's there's no way I think

1592
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: that he's he's definitely lost his fastball, and I think

1593
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: last year was a sign of it. Has he lost

1594
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: his fastball because he's in the A C C which

1595
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: is just a horrible I mean, he's had a bunch

1596
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: of missteps to give a I mean he's you want

1597
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: to you know, he had the missteps on saying that

1598
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: guys shouldn't be paid. He's you know, he's he's put

1599
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: out on a lot of stuff. Yeah, and so his Yeah,

1600
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: it's a big year for him. It's a really really

1601
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: big year now that Venables is gone. It's uh, yeah,

1602
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Yeah. Lower. Uh, Kirby Smart was

1603
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: number three. We all agree he should be up to

1604
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: number two. Ryan Day is at number four, Bishop Higher

1605
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: Lower just right, it's just right. Um. The only thing

1606
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: missing on the resume is just national championship. They are

1607
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: the one program in the North and probably the only

1608
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 1: program in the North that can recruit with Bama recruit

1609
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: with Georgia consistently. Uh, he's won a ton. He's missing

1610
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: just the national title on the resume. Everything else is there.

1611
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: He's even elevated it from the standpoint of there. Now

1612
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: you know, they're signing the best high school quarterbacks in

1613
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: the country to go to Ohio State. That was something

1614
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: that had never happened until he got there in terms

1615
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: of pro style guys. So uh no, it's an appropriate

1616
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: ranking for Ryan. I have no issue with him at

1617
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: four polos he's thirty four and four. Absolutely he should

1618
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: be number three and number four on this list. End

1619
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: the store next four lower. Luke Fickle is number five. Big,

1620
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: big big spot there for Luke Fickle. Number six. Brian Kelly,

1621
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: in his Southern accent at l s U takes us

1622
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: to number seven. Lincoln Riley U s c uh fifty

1623
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: five and ten career record. He leaves Oklahoma goes on

1624
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: to USC bishop higher lower or just right for one

1625
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. I think Lincoln Riley should be fifth on

1626
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: this list. And I have full respect for Luke and

1627
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: what he what he did at Cincinnati and the way

1628
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: that he pulled that off. Um. But Lincoln Riley, you

1629
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: could argue, I think very plainly that he's maybe salvaged

1630
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: and saved the Oklahoma program and then he burned it

1631
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: to the ground. But um, his immediate impact UM at

1632
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: USC is eminent. Uh he is. He is like Ryan

1633
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: Day in the sense of kids are going to want

1634
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: to go play for him because of the way they

1635
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: play offensive football. He had three straight he had two

1636
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: straight Heisman winners, he had three straight Heisman finalists. It's

1637
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: two straight number one pick overall all of that, UM,

1638
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: I don't understand how he's behind Brian Kelly. That makes

1639
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: absolutely no sense. So I would have him higher, uh

1640
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: than where he is at seven. He absolutely should be higher.

1641
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: Five is probably the sweet spot for him. Uh. Brian

1642
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: Kelly needs moved down absolutely. I I hot take. I

1643
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna do very well at else Hill.

1644
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: I think people are going to see right through his

1645
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: fakeness that he has and Luke. I like Luke a lot,

1646
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 1: but come on, Lincoln Riley is gonna resurrect the USC

1647
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: coaching job in position there in southern California, that is football.

1648
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: The Rams aren't l A, the Chargers aren't l A.

1649
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: USC is l A. Yeah. I would at tend to agree.

1650
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,759
Speaker 1: I think Brian Kelly that could go down in flame.

1651
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: He's yeah. I think it's one of the most fascinating

1652
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: moves that they hired him. I mean, the only reason

1653
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley is at USC is because he was willing

1654
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: to listen to l s U and USC said, wait

1655
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: a second, we can get him, and that's what allowed

1656
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: for all of that. Um. I think Kelly was a

1657
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: situation where they had to have a dance partner, and

1658
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: so they landed on him. I think it's a tough fit.

1659
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: I really do. I think it's a really tough fit.

1660
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: The one thing about that job, though, it's a great job.

1661
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: They want three national titles last twenty years with three

1662
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: different coaches. UM. So that's a pretty remarkable thing in

1663
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 1: the instate talent the kids. One thing about l s U.

1664
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: You we can talk to Delpa about this or oh

1665
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 1: b J or Jarvis when they were here, greedy Jacob Phillips.

1666
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: If you if you grew up in Louisiana, you grow

1667
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: up wanting to play at l s U. So the

1668
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: recruiting pitch, you just have to be competent and you

1669
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: get most of those guys. Yeah, exactly, next, all right,

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Speaker 1: I gotta throw him in here. Number eight was Jimbo

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01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: Fisher higher lower? Just right? Uh, Paulice, we'll start with you.

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01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 1: Eight seems kind of right. I mean, I don't view

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01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: him as like the world beat her as a head coach.

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01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: I think that he's a good coach. I think that

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Speaker 1: his best year was obviously with Jamis at his you

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01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 1: know a height of Jamis, So I think it's probably

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01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: about right. So he's won seventy percent of his games

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01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: um or the same amount of games that percentage of

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01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: games as Nick Saban has won both against top twenty

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01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: five competition and in the college football playoffs. So that

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01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: gives you the idea that he was punching up against

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01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: Saban is insane, like settled down little dude. Uh next

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01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: exactly right. So he has Jamis uh in two thousand

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01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: thirteen and two thousand and fourteen, two thousand twelve, yetd J.

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01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: Manual at Florida State, who was the first round pick,

1686
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: they went twelve and two. He goes fourteen. To know

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: what Jamis as a as a red shirt freshman, they

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01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: win the national title. Jamis wins a Heisman. The next

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: year they go thirteen and one. This these are the

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01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: other records. These are the records for him the rest

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01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: of the time. Ten and four, nine and four, ten

1692
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: and three, ten and three, five and six at Florida State,

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01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: At Texas A and M, he's gone nine and four,

1694
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: eight and five, nine and one, eight and four. I

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01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: feel like he's the Kirk Ferrens of the He's the

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh of the South. And yet he's got a

1697
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars in contracts because he parlays any sort

1698
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: of interest, mostly from ls you into contract extensions and raises,

1699
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: first at Florida State and now at Texas A and M.

1700
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: He's got Texas Oil money now behind him, so look out.

1701
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: That's why they were able to buy that class. Next.

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01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh's at number nine. Kyle winning him. That's a joke,

1703
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: by the way, that's a joke, absolutely nine. That's a

1704
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: clown show. Where would you put him further down? He's

1705
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 1: would you put him at Utah ahead of him? Mario

1706
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: Christobul I have to see, but I mean better. Jim

1707
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: is better than Mario. Dude. He lost Lloyd Carr's grandsons. Hilarious.

1708
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: That can't happen at Michigan. He has not He does

1709
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: not have a quarterback sign in the twenty two or

1710
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: twenty three class. I'm pretty sure the idea that it's

1711
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: that's unbelievable. He has. He knew that it was a

1712
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: one year thing against Ohio State. When he beat him

1713
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: this year, he did everything any good. He interviewed with

1714
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: Quaisy on National Signing Day. Yeah, like he wanted out,

1715
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: he knew it. I'm not saying I'll tell you what.

1716
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: Whatever the over is in the shoe, Betty is going

1717
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: to score eightyut in the fourth quarter. Yes, he will

1718
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: score as much as he can. I'm gonna jump to

1719
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: the very end because we're up against it. But Bill

1720
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Bender also ranked all a coach. He's thorough and corrempetent

1721
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: and amazing at what he does. The worst coach in

1722
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: the Big Ten is Greg Ciano. That's not that's not fair.

1723
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: Greg Ciano has accomplished more at Rutgers than some of

1724
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: these guys ahead of him. I was, I was Greg

1725
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: Ciano behind Scott Frost. That's been a disaster. Yeah, of

1726
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: epic proportions, one another one he gets wrong. He's got

1727
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin way too low. You might not like Lane Kiffin,

1728
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: but his impacts immediately felt when he goes to a

1729
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 1: place and coaches there. Would you put him ahead of

1730
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops in Kentucky? Kiffen? They go about at different ways.

1731
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: I probably would like I think if I think at

1732
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, if Lane Kiffin would have been the the

1733
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: job at l S U got the l s U job,

1734
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: then they would be recruiting the way George's recruiting. It's

1735
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: just old Miss is a little tougher sell. Yeah, alright, gentlemen,

1736
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: higher lower for this week, alright, so much more to come.

1737
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: You listen to Clean the Brown's Daily on at Cleveland,

1738
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily sp and Cleveland Next Week Mini Camp.

1739
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: We're all here, give a let's go fine content out

1740
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: of that. I'm sure, yeah, I mean, I look, I

1741
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a fun week. I think you know,

1742
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 1: down in Canton will be fun. Going to the stadium

1743
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: on Thursday will be fun. So you'll have that look

1744
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 1: forward to, which is very very nice. You will have

1745
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: the next level to listen to, which is very very

1746
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: nice as well. That is coming up next. We're back

1747
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Speaker 1: on Monday, Cleveland Browns Date eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

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