1 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. My name is Ben Bullen. I 2 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: am not a lawyer mine. You know you're here. Like 3 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: those lawyer jokes, lawyers really get crapped on, don't they. Yeah, 4 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: they get a tough time, especially in the world of 5 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: comic They say, llawyer, what's uh? What do you call 6 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: a hundred lawyers at the bottom of the ocean a 7 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: good start? I also heard one that says, what's the 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: difference between a dead lawyer and a dead dog in 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: the street? There are skid marks in front of the dog. 10 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: So hi to all our lawyer listener friends. I'm Noel Brown. 11 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: This is ridiculous history. Um. Before we started, are a producer, 12 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: al like said, all right, we're rolling on laser wigs. Yeah, 13 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: I want to do a podcast on laser wigs. But 14 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: apparently that's not a thing. But lawyer wigs are. Yes, 15 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: lawyer wigs are a thing. Growing up as a kid, 16 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: I was always very skeptical about this night. I had 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: assumed that it was just like a television thing, televisual 18 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: sight gag. So what we're talking about is something that 19 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: may be unfamiliar to a lot of people, but it's 20 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: definitely familiar to you. If you live in a lot 21 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: of commonwealth countries, you know, and that is that in 22 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the legal system, especially like the UK, I think is 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: the most well known for this in the In the 24 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: legal system, these people who are practitioners of law, the 25 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: dark arts, the dark arts. Uh, their formal courtroom attire 26 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: includes these incredibly anachronistic wigs, you know that like powdered wigs. 27 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Just just think George Washington. Yeah, it's like they're George 28 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Washington wigs, like a founding father wig. And it's the 29 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: This goes for uh, male as well as female judges, embarrassters, right, 30 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: and there's like a hierarchy of like wig quality too. 31 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: We'll get into all that. But this is a fascinating 32 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: world world of of of legal whiggery. Um. I mean seriously, 33 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: this is pretty comical. But it's also there's a lot 34 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: of really fun stuff to unpack here. So why don't 35 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: we get to unpack him? Sure? So, you know, tradition 36 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: is a dangerous and tricky thing, and our species loves 37 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: doing stuff just because someone else did it earlier. Tradition 38 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: is a hell of a drug. Rick James said that 39 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was that was Rick James. The 40 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: thing with these wigs is that they are thought by 41 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the proponents of the practice to impart and air of formality. 42 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: You know that. The idea is that you go into 43 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: a courtroom and you sit down and you see the whigs, 44 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: and that, coupled with the judiciary proceedings, make you think, 45 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: oh wow, this is serious. You think someone somewhere down 46 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: the line misconstrued the word formality with hilarity, right right, 47 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: And we're not We're not making fun of We're not 48 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: making serious fun, I should say, of this practice. But 49 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: you can understand how strange this seems to people who 50 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: are not familiar with it. The wigs, according to other proponents, 51 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: are an emblem of anonymity. They distance the wearer from 52 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: personal involvement, and they visually draw on the supremacy the law. 53 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: This is according to a guy named Kevin Newton, a 54 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: DC based lawyer who studied law at the University of London. 55 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: And they have a name. It's not just called a 56 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: lawyer wig or a laser wig. These uh, these headpieces 57 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: are called perukes p e r u k so punk 58 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: sounding peruke. I don't know why you get peruked up, 59 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: you know. So the the rules are pretty specific as well, 60 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: so peruke. But a peruke, it's got a name, and 61 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: it's just I guess, I guess that's specifically. Would could 62 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: you use that term outside of the legal the courtroom 63 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: setting for this style of wig? Is it referring to 64 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: the style of wig or specifically a wig used in 65 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: legal setting? I don't know. Peruke is an archaic term 66 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: for a periwig, which is a highly styled wig that 67 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: used to be warned for both by both men and women. 68 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: So in this situation, I imagine them drawing the line 69 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: at the use of the phrase perrywig. They're like, no, 70 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: we're calling them perukes because this is serious. Definitely has 71 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: a more of an air of kind of finality to it, 72 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, like it's a much more kind of sharp 73 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: edged word. Cherry wig sounds frivolous. It sounds too there's 74 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: too much whimsy in a check this out man wigs. 75 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: If a barrister doesn't wear a wig, it's considered an 76 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: insult to the court stop the press as a barrister. Yes, 77 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: a barrister, So there are barristers, solicitors, and judges. Barrister 78 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: can be distinguished from a solicitor because they wear a 79 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: wig and a gown in court, and they also work 80 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: at higher levels than solicitors. Their main role is to 81 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: act as advocates in legal hearings. So there they stand 82 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: in the court and they plead a case on behalf 83 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: of their clients to the judge, who is also perruped up. 84 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: But like I was saying earlier, been uh, you know, 85 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: do you know about the whig archy, the higher the 86 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: hierarchy of wigs, Like it's it's a thing. It's really 87 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: really cool. Oh man. So you know, you've got your 88 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: barristers who wear these slightly kind of frizzed up wigs 89 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: that are kind of frizzy at the crown, and they 90 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: have horizontal curls on the sides and the back like 91 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: little uh like like you know, like your mom's curlers, 92 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: you know that kind of like a little nice tight 93 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: What do you call that? What kind of curl is that? 94 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: Is there a name for it? I would Jerry, it's 95 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: a more of a could you say ringlet a ringlet? Yes, 96 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: ringlet exactly. That is exactly the word I was fishing for. 97 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, but they're like very organized in there. They 98 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: flow down the sides and the back um and then 99 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: they have too long kind of Jedi braids of hair 100 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: that hang down below the hair and on the neck 101 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: uh and they sport a looped curl at each end, right, 102 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: so it's like that's kind of like a Jedi a 103 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Jedi braid. These are yeah, these are very specific, very specific, 104 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: and you've got different types of lawyers, different styles of wigs. 105 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: The best one though, is the judge, because the judge 106 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: has a similar, similarly styled wig, but it's way like 107 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: it's like a blown out version of the barrister's wig. 108 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: It's a full wig um from a slightly frizzed out 109 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: top and it kind of transitions into this tight, horizontal 110 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: array of curls that goes several inches down your shoulder. 111 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: And these wigs, all of them, from judge to barrister 112 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: what have you, are made of white horse hair um. 113 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: And there's a certain amount of gravitas that's associated with 114 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: the yellowing that happens as the wig's age, because it 115 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: in parts a certain amount of you know, respect, you've 116 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: got you know, you've got that yellow wig. You've been 117 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: at this for a while, Sir ye mad nowadays obviously 118 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: wearing one of these is at the very best a 119 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: fashion statement, you know, like if our if our super 120 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: producer Alex showed up one day and said, you know, 121 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: I was wearing a barrister's wig. This is the choice 122 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I've made in life. Of course we would support him, 123 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: because we're all actually friends, but it would be weird 124 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: because people don't typically wear wigs in that style. Now 125 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: people still wear wigs in general, but they're very it's 126 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: very different nowadays. And once upon a time, wigs were 127 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: considered an essential part of being a well put together professional, 128 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: like if you if you were a person of substance 129 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: and means, then you wore a wig. It was during 130 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: that time culturally when wigs began to appear in courtrooms 131 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: and so it was seen as a mark of a 132 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: bit of elitism, a mark of authenticity, mark of professionalism, 133 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: and a mark of success. This was in the seventeenth century, 134 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: so only the creme de la creme, socially speaking, were 135 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: those powdered wigs that were made of as you said, 136 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: no horse hair. Those were just the really dope ones though, 137 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: like those are the the upper echelon of powdered wigs. 138 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: There's a whole array of materials that kind of stepped 139 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: down the quality ladder. I guess he could say, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 140 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: there was a goat hair spoiled cotton hair stolen from 141 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: the dead. That is true of those you want to 142 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: you want a dead man's h scalp, dead man's scalps, 143 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: tell no tales, my friend, And that's dark. I don't 144 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: know what that even means. I don't know. I was 145 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: into it. I could see it contextually unless yeah, and 146 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: like a line kind of cut your eyes at me 147 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: a little bit there they cut my eyes? Are you? 148 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: Is that a weird expression? It is? I was trying 149 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: to figure out what, how what would that would intain, know, 150 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: like like like a little like a little side side eye. 151 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: There you go. How is it? Okay? I'm just for 152 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: every just you can't see this. I'm just moving my 153 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: head and maintaining eye contact. Well. Whether or not the 154 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: wig trade involved cutting of eyes, it also involved a 155 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: practice that remains around in the modern day, which is 156 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: that there were people who would grow their hair out 157 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: and then sell it and people buy real human hair 158 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: wigs and all joking aside, uh nowadays that is a thing. 159 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: Um there is there are human hair wigs that are sold. 160 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: But the thing that I always associate that with is 161 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: the whole locks of love uh scene. I guess where 162 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: people will sell their hair to not sell, donate their 163 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: hair to be made into wigs for cancer patients who 164 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: have lost their hair through chemotherapy. I think that's super cool. 165 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: I have a friend, um, who I used to do 166 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: sound with back in the day, like a production you know, 167 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: audio jobs, and he had the most luxurious head of 168 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: hair just down his back, just like a like a 169 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: great lion. And his mother got sick with cancer and 170 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: he donated all his hair and he had a wig 171 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: may out of his hair to give to his mother, 172 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: and I thought that was just the sweetest Yeah, that's beautiful. 173 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: That's heartbreaking. Yeah, it really is. But the reason that 174 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: this is important that he would donate this, or that 175 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: anyone would donate this, is because today these kind of 176 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: wigs are very, very expensive. Yeah, yeah, this is the 177 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: This is the top ind real human hair, and sometimes 178 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: people rate it by the region of the world where 179 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: this hair originates. But this is still what's really weird 180 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: to me about this man. In the seventeen century, while 181 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: you could get a human hair wig, it was still 182 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: a couple of steps down below the stat a symbol 183 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: of a horse hair wig exactly different different times, different strokes, 184 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: I suppose. But today these wigs that are used in 185 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: the English court system, they're like a prerequisite, like you 186 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: have to, like you graduate, you get your law degree, 187 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: you go and buy your first wig. But like I 188 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: was saying before, you kind of want to hang onto 189 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: it because you want that air, that patina, that that 190 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: yellow thing to happen, so people know that you mean 191 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: business and that you've been in the game for a minute. 192 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: You've been wigging out. You're an o g wigster. And 193 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: uh they they they go for from a you know, 194 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: five bucks for like one of these smaller, slightly less 195 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: ornate barrister wig, your starter wig, uh to like three 196 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: grand for a judge wig, these ones that go you know, 197 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: all the way down the back. Is a significant investment. 198 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: And so maybe one of the questions we would ask 199 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: is we said that this was all the rage fashion wise, 200 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: eyes right, But why it turns out most most people overwhelmingly, 201 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: when I say most people, I mean overwhelmingly historians blame 202 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: it on syphilis. Always comes back down a syphilis that 203 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: took a turn things have indeed taken a turn for 204 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: the syphilic. Uh, corpse whigs wasn't enough the corpse whigs 205 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: that was just like a little bit of a slight 206 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: ummi added into the story. But now this is becoming 207 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: this part of the show is syphilis centric. In the 208 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: sixteenth century, a lot of people in Europe were contracting 209 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: syphilis was also known as the syphiltici. Yes, yeah, as 210 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: you probably know it better as the syphiltic. You know, 211 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: so the treatment used for syphilis, penicillin, wasn't going to 212 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: be discovered until nineteen, so people with syphilis didn't have 213 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 1: a treatment program. Instead, they got rashes, blindness, open sores, 214 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: eventually dementia and then hair loss. I mean there's market 215 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: for probably all kinds of like devices and cosmetic little 216 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: accoutrement to cover up scars and things like that. You know, 217 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: you think of like half masks for faces and stuff 218 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: that had some form of deformity that could have resulted 219 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: from something like syphilis. Oh yeah, that's really good point. 220 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. I just wonder who like 221 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: cornered the market on you know that kind of stuff, 222 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: cause cosmetic accessories, shall we say, I always thought those 223 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: things were cool growing up, you know, seeing the seeing 224 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: the half mask in the Phantom of the Opera, for instance, 225 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: that was great. I if I could get away with it, 226 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I would just wear one of those, but it would 227 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: be a little bit anticlimactic and disappointing, you know when 228 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: I finally took it off. If I had a normal face, 229 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: so I can lose a nose, you can lose like 230 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: a hole, like your nose can totally get eating away. 231 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Leg I just typed in syphilis mask, uh, and I 232 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: guess pretty disturbing actually came right up. It's a wire 233 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: frame with a pair of glasses and a fake nose, 234 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: but it looks like clearly this is an artifact. Um. 235 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: And then we've got masks, like we're talking about all 236 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. But you know, if you just had hair loss, 237 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: a wig would be your best friend and a crucial 238 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: one because hair loss was very problematic for people socialized 239 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: at this time. So in this kind of this continues 240 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: a little bit today. Uh, Long hair at the time 241 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: was super in fashion. It was all the rage, and 242 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: because of the prevalence of syphilis, if somebody was prematurely balding, 243 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: everyone just sort of thought they had syphilis, which is 244 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: is a really tough, uh, really tough situation, unfair for 245 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: uh people who are just balding naturally. But you know, 246 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Larry David would take great issue with this notion of 247 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: but you know, bald um what's the word bald is um? 248 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, they look at a bald person and you 249 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: immediately assume they have syphilis. You know, that's that's problematic 250 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: in the you know you guys, you know Larry David, right, 251 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Larry David one of the most famous baldman and entertainment. 252 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: I know, he makes it. He sort of like carries 253 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: that torch, you know, proudly, very proudly. They can't tankerously. No, 254 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: it's weird because even today, especially in the entertainment industry, 255 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: people who are prematurely balding are are kind of typecast. 256 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, well, there's it's it's seen as like some 257 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: sort of deficiency in your your person right, like a 258 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: for instance, if you if you're watching most television shows, 259 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: you're watching action film or something, and you eat a 260 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: balding character, the chances are overwhelming that they're going to 261 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: be like a lower level sleazy villain. And that's completely 262 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: not true about real people, uh real. The idea of 263 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: sleazy villainy knows no specific appearance, type, or template, but 264 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: that's still better than what was happening in the sixteenth century, 265 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: where someone would look at another person who had hair 266 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: loss and then say, oh, they have syphilis. Also, wigs 267 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: were a big help for people who had another, uh 268 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: prominent hair problem lice. Oh yeah, man, my kid got 269 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: lice once. What's really oh yeah. And the thing about 270 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: even today, license seen, it's got this stigma that it carries, 271 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: right where like your kid gets lice and people look 272 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: at you. You're like you're a crappy parent, you know, 273 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: like I did a bad job keeping my kid clean 274 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. But the thing about license it 275 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: spreads and kids it's they're always you know, touching each 276 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: other and you know, playing and being kids and all 277 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: this stuff. And yeah, well you know, when one kid 278 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: at school gets life, like, it's can be assumed like 279 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: the whole school has lice. And so you know, let's 280 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: just think of this period in English history as just 281 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: like a a macro cosmic schoolyard where everyone's just giving 282 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: everyone life and syphilis. It might you know, it did 283 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: reach the higher realms of society. Here's an interesting story. 284 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Life doesn't discriminate, less does it discriminate. Louis the fourteen 285 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: King of France, the Son King. He was the king 286 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: from six to seventeen fifteen, and he was prematurely balding. 287 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: So he got over this by or I guess, compensated 288 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: for this by wearing a wig. And yes, historians do 289 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: believe that he contracted syphilis. And once he started wearing 290 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: this wig, it's the king of France. He started a trend, 291 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: and the upper class, the upper crust of Europe, a 292 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: lot of them started wearing wigs, including Charles the Second, 293 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: who was Louise's cousin and was rumored to also have 294 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: contracted syphilis. I'm telling you, man, syphilis was out of control. Seriously, 295 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if the King of France has syphilis, then 296 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: you know it's running rampant. I mean it's like he's 297 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like syphilis and lice. They don't discriminate there, 298 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: that's not just like reserved for the unwashed masses. Freaking 299 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: the sun king. Dude, have you seen this guy? Have 300 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: you seen his hair? Yeah? That's what we're getting with this, 301 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: aren't we Yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot of hair. 302 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: But it's like he kind of set this, uh, set 303 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: this thing up as like a massive fashion trend, and 304 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: then other people started doing it because you know, the 305 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: king could have you killed upon a word, and if 306 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: you're hanging out in court all the time, you're probably 307 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: I think there was a little bit of sink fishy. 308 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: You know. It wasn't even court though, just right, it 309 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: was everybody. Yeah, it was a court. Came later I 310 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of read, yeah, the court, I guess, I mean 311 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: the the King's court. Excuse me, See here we are. 312 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: We're missing a misconstruing courts. It's a it's not our fault, 313 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: it's English. It's my fault. No, it's my I take 314 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: responsib I take full responsibility for misconstruing court. Just then 315 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: in the court of the crimson King, well, we can't 316 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: judge whether we we can't judge whether you should be 317 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: guilty of that responsibility because neither of us has a perup. 318 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: It's true, we can't even present our case. It's confusing 319 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: to alex as a who has a gigantic judge. Wig 320 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: God right now, he really really does, and he is 321 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: looking at us quite judgmentally with those piercing bespectacled eyes 322 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: at those long it's long log. Oh my god, he 323 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: just kind of tipped them down, and I swear to god, 324 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: I looked into his eyes and I saw the void. Man, 325 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: I saw the abyss went back at me. The practice 326 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: of wearing these wigs in like legal courts, actual courts 327 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: of law did come later, and I believe it was 328 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: in the late eighties or so. I think that's right. UM. 329 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: In this article on how stuff works dot com plug um, 330 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: you can see a rendering I guess it's like a 331 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: woodcut kind of thing of um some attorneys, and it 332 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: looks like one of them has got the wig on 333 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: and he's got some really sick like mutton chops too 334 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: on the sides. But then there's two guys behind him 335 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: that don't have them. So I'm wondering if it was 336 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: like it didn't really get codified or become like it 337 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: was maybe like a thing that people did out of 338 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: fashion at first, and then over time it became more 339 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: like this is the uniform of the court. And something 340 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: we didn't mention that I came up in another article 341 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: that I that I was reading. UM as far as 342 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: why they still do the US today, we talked about 343 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: the idea how it gave an air of anonymity and 344 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: like sort of like we're all equal in the eyes 345 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: of the law or something. But if you thought about 346 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: the fact that, um, it possibly imparted some very literal anonymity, 347 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: almost like a disguise so hardened criminals, maybe I wouldn't 348 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: know you on the street. That's a really interesting point. Yeah, 349 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if that played or how much 350 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: of a role that played. You know, we do know 351 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: that it persisted after wigs fell out of fashion, right right, yeah, yeah, 352 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: And like you know, like you said, it's like totally 353 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: a historical kind of like like you know, the English, 354 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: they're all about tradition and the English, Like I just know, 355 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: like you know, everyone in England, the English and their traditions. Um. 356 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: But you know, it does appear on first glance that 357 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: this is like what that is. But they there do 358 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: seem to be some functional reasons behind it the whole, 359 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: like maybe it's like sort of like a semi disguise. 360 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: It also could prevent jurors from judging you based on 361 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: your your your fashion sense, because all I mean it 362 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: is a fashioning thing. But everyone has their own type 363 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: of Each role has a specific type of wig. We're 364 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: not like, these aren't bedazzled. There's no like. You don't 365 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: get special you know, buretts or anything in your in 366 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: your court wig. And it is, as you said, part 367 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: of a uniform. So it further, uh, it further removes yes, 368 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: individual or unique identifiers. This was interesting to me as well. 369 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: By the early eighteen hundreds, only a few types of 370 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: people wore wigs in this in this sense those in 371 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: the legal profession coachman and bishops. And bishops I think 372 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: short shortly after eighteen thirties or so, bishops finally cracked 373 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: the deal and they were allowed to stop wearing wigs. 374 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: And recently, as we record this, some of the laws 375 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: regarding this historical tradition changed. In two thousand and seven, 376 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: new dress rules did away with barrister wigs. Mainly, I 377 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: think it's contemptible. You know, it's like, if we can't 378 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: depend on British lawyers of all stripes wearing these ridiculous 379 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: head dresses, what can we depend on. That's a good 380 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: question you. I think you will be happy to note 381 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: that wigs do remain in use in criminal cases, thank god. 382 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe that's another thing, right, maybe that maybe 383 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: that is another plank in the platform or the argument 384 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: that wigs serve a practical purpose. They are no longer 385 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: required for family or civil court appearances, or even while 386 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: appearing before or the Supreme Court in the UK, but 387 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: in criminal cases you gotta wig up. All Over the 388 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: UK and Ireland, judges also continued to wear those luxurious 389 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: what do you call it ben ringlets until when the 390 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: practice would discontinue. And also English and British colonies like 391 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: Canada UM, who some of their provinces abandoned the whig 392 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: deal you know, throughout the nine centuries, or even Jamaica 393 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: which got rid of whigs back in UM Lawyers and 394 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: judges now only wear wigs in like kind of ceremonies 395 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: I guess, or more in a because I don't know 396 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: what is a trial left on a ceremony in a 397 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: super official event. Yeah, so yeah, that's weird. And let's 398 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: say you're someone who's thinking, man, I really want to 399 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: see this practice. I want to see history in action, 400 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Then your odds, uh, your 401 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: odds maybe best in Hong Kong of all places. According 402 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: to a lawyer in Hong Kong named Johnny Moke, the 403 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: symbolic aspect of the wig and gown is very important 404 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: to Hong Kong, and he said, my feeling is that 405 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Hong Kong will probably be one of the last jurisdictions 406 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: where wig and gown will continue to be used. So 407 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: we might need to take a trip. You know, now 408 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: we've finally got a a compelling reason to uh tell 409 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: our tell our bosses to send us to Hong Kong. 410 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm down. Alex says he has a friend 411 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. We go stay with Do they What 412 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: is their position on wigs? He says their apartment is 413 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: two square feet, which means that that sounds like plenty 414 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: of room. Yeah, what could go wrong? I don't know, man, 415 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: We'll have a misadventure, a gown and wig misadventure. Um well, 416 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I think that's it for today, right, yeah, yep, man, 417 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: that history was done, right? Oh? I guess ridiculous? Was 418 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: that dumb? It's ridiculous, absurd, it's wacky, right, it's strage, 419 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's strange how easily bizarre things can 420 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: become normal. Totally British listeners, I'm not dogging your system. 421 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: I just know it's just it's it's wild, you know. 422 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: I guess when I say dumb, it's just like it's 423 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: so easy for some little snippets, some little like thing 424 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: to just infiltrate culture, like almost accidentally. And it makes me, 425 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: it makes me wonder about the stories of other things 426 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: that are part of accepted forms of dress that are 427 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: also kind of ridiculous when you think about it. Neckties, neckties, 428 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: bow ties, bow ties, they're not doing anything, you know. 429 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Polo shirts with two buttons at the top, what's that about. 430 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: I'm wearing one now, I know I was just snip balling. 431 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: Here is if some people could see medallions. I guess 432 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, you want to just show a little nip. 433 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't even think that's going to reach a nip. 434 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: Well before were we head into the slippery slope of 435 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: nip slips. It may be time for us to call 436 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: it a day, book our tickets to Hong Kong and 437 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: see wigs in action. I'm down, man, let's go. Let's go. 438 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: But before we do that, uh, listeners, tell us your 439 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: wig tails. Does anyone have like a wig story or 440 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: have you are you a hardened British criminal and you've 441 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: had to be dressed down by a barrister with ringlets. 442 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: I would find it hard to take that person seriously. 443 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: And the barrister, you know, they're standing there with that 444 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: wig and it's supposed to like I guess in part 445 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: some kind of fear strike fear into the hearts of criminals. 446 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: I would just snicker the whole time. Yeah, yeah, well, 447 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: we're from very different culture. World's apart in terms of 448 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: head covering in the legal system at least. Uh. Let's 449 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: point being, send us your tails, send us your wig tails. 450 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: We have Facebook, we have you can just search Ridiculous History. 451 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: I think we're the only one. Yeah, you can find 452 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: us on Instagram, all all the all the goods uf. 453 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: We even discussed doing a Pinterest account, which we might 454 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: get to. But you can also email us directly at 455 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: ridiculous at how stuff works dot com and please be 456 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: sure and tune in for your next installment of ridiculous headdresses. 457 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean history, that's the name of the show. Can 458 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: we get a law in order? I love that sound effect.