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Speaker 1: That being said, it's good to have you back on

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Speaker 1: you and your brother. Greatly appreciate it. I know you're

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Speaker 1: going down out there, Well, I can't say it's good news.

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Speaker 1: It's just raids. Every other every story was raids here,

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Speaker 1: raids there. This first one, the headline reads out of Sacramento, California.

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Speaker 1: Over a million cannabis plants sees on public land statewide,

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Speaker 1: California now and nearly a hundred and eighty thousand and

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Speaker 1: pounds of processed, ill legal cannabis have been seized on

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Speaker 1: public lands by the Bureau of Land Management this year.

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Speaker 1: Bureau of Land Management rangers and special agents teamed up

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Speaker 1: actual program called CAMP Campaign against Marijuana Planting. During SIGHT raids,

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Speaker 1: they also confiscated chemicals ammunition and weapons. Now, Joe, I

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Speaker 1: Dylan Reagan says growing cannabis on federal land is a crime,

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Speaker 1: these are just to be clear, Mark, these are illegal grows. Correct, Yes,

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Speaker 1: all day. Mark, That's what was a little right. My

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Speaker 1: I still think that they should do They shouldn't destroy it.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't destroy it, I think. Now, let's back this up. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's back this up. They shouldn't destroy this. What if

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Speaker 1: But who the folk's gonna pay for that? You know

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Speaker 1: to give medicine to people that need it. Why not? Now?

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Speaker 1: Cannabis goes bad out of Mobile, Alabama. Mobile Oh. The

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Speaker 1: The three month investigation. I want to hone in on that.

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Speaker 1: other unspecific, unspecified enforcement actions. Let me explain to you

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Speaker 1: guys out there that may be using these or maybe

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Speaker 1: using a different way. In my professional opinion, you can

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Speaker 1: until you get caught. Right. It's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: There's the buying the crypto and it's going around it

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Speaker 1: and people are telling me, oh, I use my card,

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Speaker 1: I use my a t M. I use this. It's

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Speaker 1: that's doing that as far as not the exact dispensary,

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Speaker 1: but the processing company that's selling it to the dispensaries

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Speaker 1: whatever else. So say I, which I was doing this,

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Speaker 1: check that's huge. They'll say, we'll put all that ship

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Speaker 1: when you think, why can't it keep happening, Why can't

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Speaker 1: it work? Because Visa master Card on that federal level

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Speaker 1: or that, and tell it's federally legal. So that whole

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Speaker 1: thing stemmed from federally legalization. To me, thinking about what

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Speaker 1: visas making that protect them mark doing that, does that

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Speaker 1: even protect MasterCard? Or is this just getting out of

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Speaker 1: their way? To hurt the industry. What do you think

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Speaker 1: this is? It just hurts the industry, you know. I

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Speaker 1: mean the Visa massacrere huge, huge, Like if they decided, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they can't go against the federal government. Though they can't

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Speaker 1: decide that they can't go against the government. Why not?

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Speaker 1: Why why can't Visa MasterCard get together and look could

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Speaker 1: build you know, I'll tell you why. Because of money,

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Speaker 1: Because they control it and the government can control them.

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Speaker 1: That's why. Because the government can shut that ship down

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Speaker 1: and then they make no billions of dollars of not

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Speaker 1: And when I say those Visa master Card American Express rails,

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Speaker 1: that's what it's on. So there's credit card rails and

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Speaker 1: then you know your debit card rails. Those are the

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Speaker 1: Card route, so you know, they still control it. Until

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Speaker 1: it becomes federally illegal, it's not gonna happen. You're still

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Speaker 1: gonna get these threats. Well, Visa's memo doesn't mention cannabis specifically.

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Speaker 1: It notes that cassius A t m s, which are

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Speaker 1: sometimes called reverse A t M s, are primarily marketed

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Speaker 1: to merchant types that are unable to obtain payment services.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I think about things like this too,

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Speaker 1: were they ever attacking the brothels? Are they attacking fucking

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Speaker 1: places that are highly illegal? You know, we're nadia used

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Speaker 1: to work and matter. At least Mark, I thought that's

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Speaker 1: what you told me. Better he met me in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: He can't met me in this beautiful city of Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was a stripper Blue Center. That's actually

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Speaker 1: also true. He did send me to Mark, but not

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Speaker 1: in that way that makes a very suspect. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: make it even a little more suspect that all beans,

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