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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August eighteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet.

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Speaker 2: Home Loans and now a guy who really doesn't like ties,

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Speaker 2: which is why you'll sometimes find him dressed up in

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Speaker 2: a lovely turtleneck.

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Speaker 3: Jay P.

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Speaker 4: Chackar not this time of year, though, Welcome in. It

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Speaker 4: is Jaguars Happy Hour. The first hour presented by Jet

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Speaker 4: Home Loans. We're at the Hyundai Studios on tintinxl, Jaguars

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Speaker 4: dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Here's what's coming up. The

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Speaker 4: next two hours presented by Deep Eddie Vodka handcrafted with

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Speaker 4: real fruit, proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. A jag

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Speaker 4: Saints review. Yes is seventeen seventeen tie production from the

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Speaker 4: offense and the defense. They listen to what they learned

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Speaker 4: on the practice field and brought it to the game.

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Speaker 4: Star certainly did Trade Alert. Jaguar has made a deal today.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that Kevin up. We'll keep it real

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Speaker 4: and pick the fifty three man roster today just for

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Speaker 4: you right here, and then fanatics fan questions of course,

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Speaker 4: and a little later we're gonna pick the schedule. So

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Speaker 4: it's our last show before the regular season opener on Monday,

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Speaker 4: so we've got to go game by game and get

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Speaker 4: predictions all the way from now until January. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: have all the answers for you coming up Austin Lane

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Speaker 4: with us. Of course, again, we're out to beat Priscolle.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get him connected here fairly soon. Austin, what's

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Speaker 4: up man? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: I mean, are you actually like a big turtlenet guy

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Speaker 5: and the zero turtlenecks same? I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 5: worn a turtle uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: I've always lived, for the most part, in the South,

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Speaker 4: where it's hotter than hell. Makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm reminded of growing up in kindergarten and first

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Speaker 5: grade having a sting at choir concerts, you know, for

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Speaker 5: church and everything, and my mom had addressed me up

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Speaker 5: on a turtle like every single time, and obviously with me,

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Speaker 5: you know, I always try to rebel again, but I'll

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Speaker 5: never forget man. She she always pointed to uh Green

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Speaker 5: Bay Packer great.

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Speaker 4: And I believe Jacksonville local Leroy.

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Speaker 5: Butler used to always wear a giant tittle necks, you know,

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Speaker 5: when he played for the back. He did, so she

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Speaker 5: she would be like, well, if if he's wearing one, Austin,

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Speaker 5: you can wear one for a two hour acchoir concert.

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Speaker 5: So that was kind of my end up wearing tourtal necks.

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Speaker 5: But I was never impressed with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and me either.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, choking, man? Is this something about choking around

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Speaker 5: the neck? I don't care what it looks like, man,

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Speaker 5: I want to be comfortable. That's I'm not even on

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Speaker 5: a collar day. I'm still wearing the Jaguars issued but

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Speaker 5: you know it's more of a casual looks fright, it's

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Speaker 5: the try fit. Yeah that Yeah, I appreciate you guys,

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Speaker 5: you know, setting this up for me. By the way,

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Speaker 5: oh lot to do with it. This was free ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: Man. It's like I'm back on the team. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: You welcome back to the building. That's great. So hey,

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Speaker 4: Rover reaction Monday again after seventeen seventeen tie jag starters.

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Speaker 4: It is really the story this Austin. It's like all

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Speaker 4: this talk all week and practice of slowing it down,

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Speaker 4: alignment and assignment and communication and pop Warner drills and things,

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Speaker 4: and then on Thursday, let's go through a scrimmage and

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Speaker 4: go through all the components of a game and play

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Speaker 4: these quarters and put the coaches in the bar. Let's

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Speaker 4: just let's slow it down a little bit. And it

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Speaker 4: didn't look so great a lot of times on offense

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Speaker 4: that day. And then they come out against the Saints, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and performed pretty well both both drives for offense and defense.

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Speaker 4: I think it was.

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Speaker 5: Really telling, you know, because we talked about some of

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Speaker 5: the verse that you're gonna face as a head coach,

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Speaker 5: especially a first year head coach, and you got a

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Speaker 5: little bit of that against the Steelers, right. It didn't

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Speaker 5: So I was questioning how much those starters were gonna play.

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Speaker 5: that's what that starts to become your identity and that's

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Speaker 5: preseason game number one compared to preseason game number two,

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Speaker 5: because that comes down to communication and getting your point across.

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Speaker 4: That's one side of it. Sure. The other part is

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Speaker 4: that they were they playing the Saints starters.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, and that's it's a good thing that

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Speaker 4: But yeah, let's turne it back a little bit, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, when we're talking about you know that the

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Speaker 5: Saints sports radio people right now, I mean, have fun

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Speaker 5: that and yes, you did play against a bunch of twos.

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Speaker 5: But listen, JP, I don't care if it's twos, threes,

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Speaker 5: you know, front to bottom. But like, at the end

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Speaker 5: So I think when those guys came in that locker

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Speaker 5: I think you're you're a little more confident now after

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence and the starters with two drives down the

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Speaker 4: think Ezra stepped on his foot when you slow it down, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: On to it right, you know if it's you know

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Speaker 5: it. It was just it didn't look good. And when you

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that that didn't look clean. And and I'll say

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Speaker 4: And that didn't happen. Like you saw the drop ball.

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Speaker 5: it didn't and once again, yeah it's the Saints. Two's

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Speaker 5: JP right, So like, how excited can we get? No,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know it's but it's a preseason.

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Speaker 4: Defensively, that was a lot of the talk earlier in

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Speaker 5: this Kellen Moore offense in terms of the way they

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Speaker 5: I think against the Pittsburgh Steelers there was a lot

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Speaker 5: but we saw that They call it the exit game

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Speaker 4: So it was great to see guys in the backfield.

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Speaker 5: It was great to see for the most part, you know,

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Speaker 4: start basics, no doubt about that. Yeah, coming up Pete

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Speaker 4: Prisco's CBS Sports senior wrider. We're trying to get him

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Speaker 4: connected on this some Monday after the Jaguars tie final

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Speaker 4: with the Saints. Seventeen seventeen were on ten ten XL,

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Speaker 4: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. All Right, So that's

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Speaker 4: I think, overall a positive feel, even though the end

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Speaker 4: of the game was weird, right, I mean, that's just

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Speaker 4: how these preseason games can go. Sometimes they had the

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Speaker 4: And to be fair, I think.

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Speaker 4: JP, like over, I don't care.

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Speaker 5: Come on, hey, I'm not saying you want preseason. I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying overtime. I'm saying, if the Saints go in

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Speaker 5: no one feels good about a tie. Well, how are

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Speaker 4: You're just gonna have like old.

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Speaker 5: Set man, put it, Put it on the like a

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Speaker 4: So it's a two point play conversion. It's like the

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Speaker 5: No, I'm saying because there's already two point conversions, right,

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Speaker 4: I don't want any overtime in the preseason.

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Speaker 5: I don't want any ties. I don't care about the ties.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel about a time.

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Speaker 4: Man. I'm like, I feel really damn good that I

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Speaker 5: That's what I feel like. It's all about our that's

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Speaker 4: That's fine. All those extra football and I don't know

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Speaker 4: Everybody got work in sure. The starters aren't going back

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Speaker 5: Like I said, Man, put it at the six yard line,

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Speaker 5: JP and make it a three point play.

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Speaker 4: Let's come back in a moment. We'll try to get

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Speaker 4: Pete Prisco in here. We've got plenty ahead. We've got

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Speaker 4: Of their job, right, show him how to do his Okay,

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Speaker 4: I got you. I got That's what Pete usually likes

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Speaker 5: We'll see. Well, it might be watching The All twenty two.

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Speaker 4: coming up. Trade Alert Jaguars made a deal today. Jaggs

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Speaker 4: traded offensive lineman Luke Fortner to the Saints for defensive

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Speaker 5: Colin Sander's like listen, you know people see that trade

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Speaker 5: the videos of him doing backlips, JP, I can't do

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Speaker 5: Pretty impressive when your nose tackle is doing a straight line.

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Speaker 5: doing backlips. And he was actually a high school running

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Speaker 5: He can do backflips. He's capable. I mean, I'd rather

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a I think it's a good trade.

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Speaker 4: It's a great trade. You know, they got out of that.

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Speaker 5: I probably would have done it before the game, Like

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Speaker 4: He's big, he's a big hustle guy.

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Speaker 5: And I was watching some practice till actually that was

434
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Speaker 5: all over Twitter with him and Joe Colin when he

435
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Speaker 5: was in Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, he won two super Bowls at Kansas He

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Speaker 4: went to Super Bowl in Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think I think that actually means something

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Speaker 5: as well, because you know, if you want to go

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Speaker 5: back to you know, the pre draft and everything, James

441
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Speaker 5: Gladstone talked a lot about intangibly rich players, right, and

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Speaker 5: if you look at you know, winning a couple of

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Speaker 5: Super Bowls and being part of that culture in Kansas

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Speaker 5: City in New Orleans, I believe he was like I

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Speaker 5: forgot what they call it, but he was like on

446
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Speaker 5: the leadership council where they would meet like every week

447
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Speaker 5: and everything just kind of gold for some stuff. So

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Speaker 5: like he was very well regarded in Kansas City and

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Speaker 5: also well regarded in New Orleans. So if you're bringing

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Speaker 5: a locker room leader over, if you're bringing a guy

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Speaker 5: who's winning couple with super Bowls, that's only gonna.

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Speaker 4: Help bolster that locker room. Now, Jackson, I have no

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Speaker 4: doubt about that veteran player been at it at a

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Speaker 4: high level, and that seemed to be something they look

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Speaker 4: for in free agency in the offseason. Two guys have

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Speaker 4: been at it, who have their act together, who line

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Speaker 4: up right? You know, That's that was a big theme.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, makes sense and also I guess fun in fact,

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Speaker 5: his brother is a dancer for Taylor Swift. Like this

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Speaker 5: is all with Twitter to Ada JPM. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure if you're on the same Twitter channels that

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 3: But no.

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Speaker 5: But but his brother is a back like a backup

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Speaker 5: dancer for Taylor Swift, So I mean athleticism runs in

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Speaker 5: the family.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go to Pete Prisco, CBS Sports senior writer

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Speaker 4: to get his thoughts on and on this. Pete, are

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Speaker 4: you with us? Good afternoon, because I'm here.

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Speaker 3: You're here amazingly I'm here.

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Speaker 4: Hey, move your camera to your left a little bit

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Speaker 4: my left. There we go the other way the other line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was sitting here the whole time

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Speaker 3: listening to you too.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's great. What'd you think it was the best

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Speaker 4: thirty minutes we've had in a long time.

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Speaker 6: I gotta tell you that sounds like something to Selly

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Speaker 6: would say back in the day. And it's not true then,

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Speaker 6: and it's not true now. Look, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: When I watching the game yesterday and I heard you

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Speaker 6: guys both talking about it, I wrote down a lot

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Speaker 6: of stuff I did watch the old twenty two today.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Austin that password though, Pete, what's up man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You gotta you better keep looking. Look, the bottom line

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Speaker 6: is there was a lot of things that were better

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Speaker 6: from last week, and there's still some concerning things, and

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Speaker 6: we can get into a bunch of them. But the

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Speaker 6: quarterback to me is much improved. I've said it all along.

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Speaker 6: I think mechanically the motion is sped up, that is shorter,

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Speaker 6: his stride is shorter, and the balls get out. Now,

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Speaker 6: having said that, there were a couple of things that

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Speaker 6: he did that that were concerning. Remember when he was

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Speaker 6: flushed out of the pocket and through the pass to

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Speaker 6: the left to uh Brian Thomas on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: It was a short, short throw to the left side.

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Speaker 3: He didn't need to leave that pocket. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why he left it, you know how you know I

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Speaker 3: hate that Jap. It drives me crazy. But so he

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Speaker 3: didn't need to leave that a b.

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Speaker 6: The play where he tried to throw it into the

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Speaker 6: end zone, did Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we tried to. He stepped up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, there is he's still he All he has

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Speaker 3: to do is get to his left. He stayed on

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Speaker 3: the right too long.

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Speaker 6: Gets Brian Thomas won right away on the on the

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Speaker 6: on the slant he's wide open and he never gets.

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Speaker 3: To him until it's too late. So a couple of

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Speaker 3: little things, but all in all, I thought he was

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Speaker 3: much better. You know, he he threw the ball better.

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Speaker 6: I thought he was more in rhythm with his receivers.

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Speaker 6: The throw to Brian Thomas, the one he missed, the short,

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Speaker 6: the one was low. Brian Thomas probably should have caught.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't a great throw, but those are There's a

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Speaker 6: play there, and if you go back and watch the tape,

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Speaker 6: Strange is wide open down the seam and he doesn't

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Speaker 6: throw it, so I don't know if he I don't

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Speaker 6: know what the design of that play is because the

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Speaker 6: safeties are split and he kind of splits the two

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Speaker 6: of them. He lost it over the linebacker and that's

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Speaker 6: a big play.

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Speaker 3: So there was a lot of good.

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Speaker 6: There's still some concerning I thought the offensive line was

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Speaker 6: much better. Like you guys said, I think, you know, again,

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Speaker 6: they're playing against backups, so you got to you gotta

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Speaker 6: take that for what it's worth. There's a lot of

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Speaker 6: backups out there.

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Speaker 4: See. I I was playing the role of Pete Prisco

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Speaker 4: earlier and saying just that. So since you weren't with us.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'll step in. I'll

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Speaker 4: be the one that kind of puts out the fire

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Speaker 4: for a minute, you know what.

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Speaker 3: JP it mattered, you know, but but I'll say McCarry

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Speaker 3: was better. The right tackle got walked back a couple

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Speaker 3: of times, but he was okay.

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Speaker 6: In the run game, I thought the center was solid,

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Speaker 6: Cleveland was good, and Walker Little was pretty good. But

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Speaker 6: you know they're not They're working against guys that you

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Speaker 6: know won't play, and so it's hard to make it

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Speaker 6: an evaluation.

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Speaker 3: But I thought it was definitely better.

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Speaker 6: You know what they'd look like to me, they look

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Speaker 6: like they're better coached from an offensive line standpoint than

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Speaker 6: they've been the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: That you can see that much.

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Speaker 4: You can see, Pete, what do you make of that?

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Speaker 5: You know, the towards the in the red zone, the turnover,

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Speaker 5: Trevor stumbles, trips, I think over Ezra Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: On his foot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean they're like I get everyone like

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Speaker 5: catch twenty you know, hindsight twenty two, Like okay, you

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Speaker 5: want to you want to just fall on the ball

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Speaker 5: and you're good to go. But like I don't mind

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Speaker 5: him trying to make that handoff and he still tried

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Speaker 5: to make it. You know, is that more on Tank Bigsby?

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Speaker 5: Is that more on Trevor Lawrence, Like what has to

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Speaker 5: happen in that situation, it's.

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Speaker 3: More on a Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: Probably, But you also got to learn to live with

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Speaker 3: what you have. You know, like sometimes if you step

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Speaker 3: on your foot, you.

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Speaker 6: Might just go down in that scenario and go to

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Speaker 6: the next play, whereas he reached out to try and

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Speaker 6: make the handoff, which sometimes you say, just just live.

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Speaker 3: And move on to the next play.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's it's a combination of things sometimes,

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Speaker 6: you know, that's one of the flaws of Trevor Arms.

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Speaker 3: He tries to do too much at times.

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Speaker 6: And so I think maybe in that scenario, you just

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Speaker 6: go down and you're down, you don't try and reach

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Speaker 6: out and hand them the ball.

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Speaker 3: But that's the natural thing is to try and hand

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Speaker 3: off and see if you can get something out of it.

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Speaker 3: But it was if you really want to blame anybody,

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Speaker 3: blame Cleveland. He stepped on his foot.

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Speaker 4: Hey, let's uh, let's come back. We'll dig into this

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Speaker 4: old line a little bit, Pete. We're gonna cut the

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Speaker 4: roster tonight a little later.

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Speaker 3: You know, JP, you said we didn't have a show

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Speaker 3: before the regular season. Don't we have one next week?

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Speaker 4: No slabor day next week?

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Speaker 3: No, the that's two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we do have one next week. So wow, calendar.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that you must be so caught up in what's

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Speaker 3: going on and everything.

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Speaker 4: That you'm so locked in on Jaguars football that I

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Speaker 4: forgot what day it was. Next week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a show next week. We can cut

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Speaker 6: the we can we can well cut the rock, we

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Speaker 6: can cut the roster. But playing out the season we

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Speaker 6: can do next week.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like, Oh, go ahead and do that or what

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Speaker 4: Pete said, We'll just do that. I'm glad because done

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Speaker 4: everything tonight.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise, Hey, JP, it's Halloween already. What do you think.

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Speaker 4: Jaggs football is officially back at some point on the calendar.

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Speaker 4: Be there as number two overall draft pick Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: and the Jags take the field for the first time

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Speaker 4: against the Panthers September seventh, and go to Jaguars dot Com.

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Speaker 4: Slash tickets are called nine oh four six three three

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Speaker 4: two thousand. This is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet

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Speaker 4: Home loads. Rob Drake, you knows the playbook like the

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Speaker 4: back of his hand. Really helpful to.

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Speaker 3: Have a number.

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Speaker 4: And he's on your hell of a job too. So

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Speaker 4: it's a cooperative air peffort and we're all doing it.

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Speaker 4: Patrick mckerry, the Jaguars right guard, talking about his center

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Speaker 4: Robert Hainsey after the game in New Orleans. Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans

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Speaker 4: were at Hunday Studios, the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 4: Austin Lane, Pete Frisco with us down in South Florida.

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Speaker 4: We're on ten TOEXXL, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

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Speaker 4: And that gets us into the offensive line. Pete, what

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Speaker 4: is your starting five offensive line for the Jaguars if

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Speaker 4: you're picking it today?

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Speaker 3: Oh No, I really don't know. I don't think they know.

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Speaker 4: They don't either.

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Speaker 6: No, you know, I heard you mentioned Austin about Manheim.

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Speaker 6: He was one of my favorite guys in the draft.

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Speaker 6: He was on my team of guys I like better

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Speaker 6: than the scouts, my better than team, and he's been

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Speaker 6: better than I thought he's been. Was going to be

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Speaker 6: mean at left guard. He's got a wide base anchor

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Speaker 6: moved people.

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Speaker 3: Put I put picture of him, a play of them

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Speaker 3: up on Twitter today, and he's better than I thought.

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Speaker 3: Then he went in at center.

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Speaker 6: He had two bad plays, and I don't even know

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Speaker 6: if they were two bad ones. One he kind of

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Speaker 6: got walked back a little bit and passed protection. The

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Speaker 6: other one was late in the game on the run

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Speaker 6: where but he looked like he was It was a

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Speaker 6: run to the right. He was trying to get the

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Speaker 6: cut off block on the on the guy, and he

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Speaker 6: looked like he thought he might have some help behind him,

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Speaker 6: and he got nothing.

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Speaker 3: So then he panicked and tried to get the guy,

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Speaker 3: and the guy remember what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: He was trying to scrape up it seemed like. But

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Speaker 5: then he kind of second guessed himself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, it looked like he might have should have

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Speaker 6: had some help coming from the other side.

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Speaker 3: So really, when I.

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Speaker 6: Watched the tape and I watched it all all and

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Speaker 6: watched him, he had two bad plays total, and really

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Speaker 6: only one, And that's impressed me. He's looks technically like

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Speaker 6: a veteran the way he plays the game, and he's

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Speaker 6: tough and he looks for action.

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Speaker 3: I love that he looks for action, so we don't

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Speaker 3: know how he'll be when he's got a big.

654
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 6: Power player on him, because he's not you know, he's

655
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 6: got short arms and he's not overpowering, but he battles you.

656
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: I think of the two rookies, he's been the more

657
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 6: impressive of the two on the offensive line, I think.

658
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 5: And then it speaks volumes too because Luke Portner than

659
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 5: obviously traded after that game. I thought that game may

660
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 5: have said a lot for Luke Portner's future here in Jacksonville.

661
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: When you have, you know, at least a decent backup

662
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: there where you can maybe bolster a defensive line. They're like,

663
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 5: I think it's no mistake that Luke Portner then was

664
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 5: traded after that game.

665
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

666
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: And the other thing, Luke Fordter actually was better this camp.

667
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 6: And I'm going to say that about the offensive line.

668
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 6: I think the offensive line they've all put look better,

669
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 6: and that goes to coaching. I think this coaching staff

670
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 6: has done a nice job with the offensive line. I

671
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 6: don't know where they are talent wise yet, and we

672
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 6: won't know until they actually play games, but they look

673
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 6: more technically, sad, they look like they're better coach, and

674
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 6: I think you know, Cleveland looked better than he did

675
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 6: a year ago. Even Fortner looked better than he did

676
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 6: a year ago. So I think that's that's a big

677
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 6: step for the offensive line.

678
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, JP, I don't know, and

679
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they know.

680
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 6: I would think Hainsey would be the starter at center.

681
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 6: I would think right guard. I mean McCarry was better.

682
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 6: I thought McCarey was pretty good yesterday, so he might

683
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 6: be the right guard.

684
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: The right tackle, Dogo is playing pretty well, but he's

685
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: just kind of it's a minor injury right now.

686
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: Where's their starting right tackle?

687
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: Same thing, lower body and not expected to be long term.

688
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think their ideal scenario would be the five

689
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: guys that they started the season thinking we're going to

690
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: be the.

691
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 6: Starters, which would be Little Cleveland, Hainesy, McCarry.

692
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: And.

693
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: Anton Harrison Harrison, So that's the.

694
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Speaker 6: Five Bob you mentioned. The dog has been better than

695
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 6: they thought. I think Monheim's been better than anybody thought.

696
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 6: So I think you know Fred Johnson. I thought Fred

697
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 6: Johnson got walked back a couple times as a right

698
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 6: tackle yesterday to and passed protection. I think he and

699
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: he got beat inside on one play. Do you remember

700
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 6: that one, Austin when he got beat inside?

701
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

702
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm not I thought he would compete for

703
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 6: a starting job and be much more competitive before that.

704
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: And he hasn't had the kype of straining camp in preseason.

705
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: I thought he would have.

706
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: And then in the scrimmage the other day Thursday, they

707
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: were working Anton Harrison it left tackle for a minute

708
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: until his injury. And Okay, what does that tell you,

709
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: Pete about what you're thinking?

710
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: J Peter?

711
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 6: Did they say why Milam only played like a handful

712
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 6: of plays yesterday?

713
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: Did he get dinged?

714
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember him limping around in the game.

715
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he must have gotten d he must something.

716
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: Must have happened. Liam Cohen didn't talk today and he's

717
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: scheduled to speak after practice tomorrow, so hopefully we'll have

718
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: a little bit more.

719
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: By the way, when they get to the deep backups, only,

720
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: how are some of those guys bad?

721
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean wow, Pete, Okay, I mean well,

722
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 5: I think a lot of teams if you're talking about

723
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 5: your third string tackle or your third string guard, you're

724
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 5: probably gonna be in a little trouble.

725
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Austin, you know that the backup wins period are

726
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: a problem. But you get to third teams.

727
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 6: You know, when I travel around training camps, I see

728
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 6: the CFL scouts all the time. They're like vultures waiting,

729
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: you know, for guys to get cut. And I'm not

730
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: so sure they would take some of those third teamers.

731
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 6: That's how bad those.

732
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: Guys have been.

733
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: Wow, that's really uplifting for them. Pete, that's great.

734
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you want me to be real. You

735
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: want me to what do you want me to, Pops?

736
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: I'm giving you a real analysis. The depth, the deep

737
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: depth of the roster has.

738
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: A problems do most I mean if Pete saying this,

739
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 5: what do you think they're saying in the offensive line room?

740
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: It ain't like, oh, hey, you're doing you know, you're

741
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: doing an okay job. Like they're gonna tell like it is.

742
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: That's the way it goes.

743
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: Man sixty one, I mean giving away mine, that's my

744
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: old number. He's doing a disservice too.

745
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: Is it retired somewhere? Pete, we don't know about it?

746
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: Kidding me?

747
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Have you watched him? He's not very

748
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: good struggle with it? I mean they say have injuries

749
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: on that offensive line problems.

750
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 6: The good news about the offensive line in Mannheim and

751
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 6: Mileam you have developmental guys and they haven't had that

752
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: in a long time.

753
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: They need that, you know, got young guys that they

754
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: could develop.

755
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: I mean Cooper Hodges was going to be that guy

756
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: with the devastating injury.

757
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but they have a lot of how many

758
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: offensive linemen are hurt right now? Five?

759
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a handful. Remember cole Van Lannon's out for.

760
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: The camp, right, so you got Harrison.

761
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's three. And that's kind of what it is

762
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: right now. And those are three guys that you're kind

763
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: of leaning on or expecting to beat on the roster.

764
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: And then we think Whyatmullum might might be like a

765
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: little banged up number four. Yeah, not good.

766
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 6: But but again, I think the line looks better in

767
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 6: terms of the technique, the way they're blocking. They seem

768
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 6: more in sync with how they you know, pin and

769
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 6: pull and you know everything they do with the movement

770
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 6: that getting to the second level.

771
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: I think it's much better than it's been.

772
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 5: And I think it's really telling too, Like you're seeing

773
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 5: guys finished blocks and I get it, you're not going

774
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 5: against you know, the top tier defensive lines yet, but

775
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 5: there's something to be said if you're running back and

776
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: you don't have to you know, wait in the back

777
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 5: foot for the hold, open up the holes right there.

778
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: Just run through it.

779
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: I mean, you saw that with Travis Etan goes like

780
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 5: second and three or whatever it was, towards midfield and

781
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 5: he just runs straight, gets seven eight yards, Like that's

782
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 5: what you want to see. That's a that's an offensive

783
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 5: line really inflicting their will on somebody. And I think,

784
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 5: you know, if you look at the past offensive lines

785
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 5: that the Jaguars have had, like on paper, sure you

786
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 5: know these are names that we all know, but then

787
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 5: when you see him in the game, there was no gel,

788
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 5: there was no camaraderie. It's just kind of every guy

789
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 5: was off doing their own thing. So I do like

790
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 5: what we're seeing so far. Once again, I get it's

791
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 5: against some backups, but I like what I'm seeing so

792
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 5: far up.

793
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: And Strange did a nice job in those runs too,

794
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: pulling around through the hole. So he's a good blocker

795
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: and that's good to have him doing that.

796
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: I think you see why Strangers to the starting tight

797
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: end of this team because he had two nice pull

798
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: blocks where he just he found work. He found a

799
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: linebacker and stayed on him. Man.

800
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 5: And nothing against Evan Ingram because Evan Ingram is a

801
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: great ten in his own right. But I'm not sure

802
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 5: if Evan Ingram is making those types of blocks.

803
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: No, I've seen I saw plays where Evan Ingram was

804
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: blown up in the hole and they kind of didn't

805
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: like it too much. I mean, he tried, but he

806
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: didn't like it too much.

807
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: No, back to the offensive line quickly and the cohesion

808
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: part of it. Right, there's only a practice against the

809
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 4: Dolphins and a game against the Dolphins left. I'm gonna

810
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: guess that many of the air quote starters might not

811
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: touch the field at hard Rock Stadium on Saturday. When

812
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 4: do you find that cohesion?

813
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 5: Do we know we want to practice instead of like

814
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 5: usually it's two, you know, three? Like why have theyn't

815
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 5: even doing one practice? I don't know schedule. I think

816
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 5: the Dolphins have done multiple joint practices.

817
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 6: Dolphins did practice with the Lions and the Bears and

818
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 6: been away for eleven days. Maybe maybe they feel they've

819
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 6: done enough already, but they're only doing They're doing one

820
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 6: on Thursday.

821
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go down and watch that, so I'll be

822
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: down there nice. But yeah, they when did you get

823
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: the cohesion?

824
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 6: Well, you don't get it because you haven't had guys

825
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: in the lineup and you haven't set on anything.

826
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: That's why they got to settle on something by the

827
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: end of this week.

828
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 6: If they could settle on a five group of five

829
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 6: by the end of this week, then you get three

830
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 6: what do you get. You know, you're not gonna play

831
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 6: in this game, but then you get three good weeks

832
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 6: of work together before the game.

833
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: I think you have to settle on that.

834
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think now it's to the point

835
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 5: where you're not going to see them in any more

836
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 5: game situations. You're gonna have them for that Dolphins practice

837
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: and we'll see what that looks like. But I doubt

838
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: you're gona see any starters versus you know, in the

839
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 5: preseason game verst the Dolphins.

840
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: So what you have is what you have right now.

841
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: And I agree with Pete here that the sooner that

842
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 5: you can get that that starting roster in place, I

843
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 5: think the quicker they can kind of gel a little

844
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: bit and learn how to, you know, work up each

845
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 5: other's tendencies.

846
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm so screwed up.

847
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: I think it's going to start.

848
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 6: I mean, I gave you I think it's going to

849
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 6: be what they what they thought it would be, and

850
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 6: that's how they're going to start the season.

851
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: I was so screwed up on the schedule all these

852
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: weeks and things like, I'm all the days are running

853
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: together of when practices will be before the season. I mean,

854
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: I guess because thursdays of practice, Saturday is the game

855
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: they'll come back. They'll probably have some practices early next

856
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: week around the cut day and all that. I think

857
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: they have to have what four days off on that

858
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: bye weekend?

859
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: Three days yeah, it's bye week, yeah, technically.

860
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: Yes, and then they'll probably as my guest, be out

861
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 4: there Labor Day Monday for a walk through ish going

862
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: into the week, a bonus practice. It's usually how it's done,

863
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: no idea, what what Liam's gonna.

864
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: Do because that's game week.

865
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, so they actually have two weeks to get

866
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: ready for after after this week, when they two weeks

867
00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 6: to gail.

868
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: When they decide on it, you know. And but here's

869
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: the other part of that. Can you decide on it

870
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: when guys aren't all the way healthy?

871
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: Right?

872
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: Right?

873
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 6: Well, how do you think it will Okay, a game

874
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Speaker 6: one opening gate day, who's the offensive line?

875
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Speaker 3: And you're I want to hear what you two both think.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's gonna be what you said.

877
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be the starting fact that they

878
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: went into camp with. I think Anton Harrison comes back,

879
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Speaker 5: plays that right tackle, Walker Little is playing the left tackle,

880
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 5: and that's what you got.

881
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Speaker 4: So I think, you know, we consider it.

882
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 5: Say it's gonna be competition or anything like that, but

883
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Speaker 5: as long as everyone's healthy, it's gonna be the starting

884
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Speaker 5: fact that they went in the camp with.

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Speaker 4: Kind of feels that way to me too. I mean,

886
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Speaker 4: there's if Anton Harrison, I think, had gone through that

887
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Speaker 4: scrimmage the other day and stayed healthy and performed well,

888
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Speaker 4: maybe at left tackle. Maybe we see it in the

889
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Speaker 4: game for a driver or so against the Saints.

890
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: What would you do and who would you play at

891
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: right tackle?

892
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: Then when you would you flip them? Would you put

893
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: Walker over there.

894
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Right tackle? We've seen that experiment. Would you put much

895
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: better at left tackle?

896
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Speaker 4: Bred Johnson did at right tackle?

897
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Speaker 3: Eh McCarry maybe he's played tackle before. I think the

898
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Speaker 3: best way to do it is the way they have

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Speaker 3: it right now.

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Speaker 6: I thought Cleveland would get pushed for his job and

901
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Speaker 6: maybe lose it.

902
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Speaker 3: But he's had a good summer.

903
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Speaker 6: You know, he's come back more physical, and you talk

904
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Speaker 6: to people in the organization, they've been impressed with what

905
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Speaker 6: he's done this summer.

906
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Speaker 3: He's been you know, and he looks like he's bigger. Remember,

907
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Speaker 3: part of the whole scheme before was to be more

908
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Speaker 3: athletic and move.

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Speaker 6: They want him bigger in this offense a little bit,

910
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Speaker 6: and he looks like he's gained a little weight and

911
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Speaker 6: got a little thicker.

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Speaker 4: Let's come back in a moment. Let's get some thoughts

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Speaker 4: on the defense and their performance against the Saints. Pete,

914
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Speaker 4: I know you'll have some comments.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're playing against guys that are gonna be bouncers

916
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Speaker 6: and bartenders in three weeks. I mean, what the hell,

917
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Speaker 6: no offense, I know, plenty of good ones, but you

918
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Speaker 6: don't go into the football figure you're gonna end up

919
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Speaker 6: being a bouncer at a bartender you think you could play.

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Speaker 4: We'll dig into this a little more when we come

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Speaker 7: Definitely felt a better sense of urgency of the alignment,

927
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Speaker 7: assignment getting lined up. The shifts and motions were clean.

928
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Speaker 7: You know, I was pleased with the operation, especially coming

929
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Speaker 7: from what we were trying to emphasize last week.

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Speaker 3: So I was pleased with that.

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Speaker 7: I definitely felt like, you know, we played well enough

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Speaker 7: to win. But you know, in this game, in this

933
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Speaker 7: in this especially in very season, you see some crazy

934
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Speaker 7: stuff and I'd like to be able to finish the

935
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Speaker 7: game the right way.

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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen after the game at the super Dome on

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Speaker 4: Sunday is seventeen, seventeen. Time Jaguars Saints Welcome back. Final

938
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Speaker 4: moments of the opening hour of Jaguars Happy Hour presented

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Speaker 4: In the second hour, will keep it real as we

941
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Speaker 4: pick the roster that's coming up in a little bit

942
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Speaker 4: for the ad ex fan questions A lot to get

943
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Speaker 4: to the theme peat this week on Defense was Alignment

944
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Speaker 4: assignment communication, and it felt like they were aligned and

945
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Speaker 4: followed their assignments and communicated fairly well in this game.

946
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Speaker 3: Much better, much been no looking around before, you know,

947
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Speaker 3: none of that.

948
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Speaker 4: No, it was.

949
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Speaker 6: It was much better, much crisper, and you know, and

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Speaker 6: Liam said, you know the whole thing about you know

951
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Speaker 6: the mechanisms of it, and you know making it work.

952
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 3: I think both sides of the ball that came through.

953
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Speaker 6: So whatever he did on Monday when he had them

954
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Speaker 6: have that practice to kind of work on that stuff,

955
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Speaker 6: it seemed to work.

956
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Speaker 3: So that's progress.

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Speaker 6: That's a good thing because lighting up in the right spot,

958
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 6: not blowing assignments, that's you know, when you talk about talent,

959
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: If you have all this talent in the world, you

960
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 6: blow those assignments, you're still not going to have success.

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Speaker 6: So I think that was good last week to try

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Speaker 6: to dress that after what we saw last week in

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Speaker 6: that first preseason game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes sense, it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: And I think you saw a defense, you know, against

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Speaker 5: the Saints that maybe took a little personally of not

967
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Speaker 5: being able to generate a lot of interior pressure and

968
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Speaker 5: you saw a lot more blitzes and different looks. Now

969
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: from this coach camp defense than you saw the more

970
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: meat and potatoes against the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: So I like what we're seeing here.

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Speaker 5: I get people have issues of defensive tackles dropped back

973
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Speaker 5: into coverage and everything, But listen, if you want to buttz, guys,

974
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 5: if you're gonna butz, you know Lloyd in the regular season,

975
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Speaker 5: whoever the linebacker is going to be. Sometimes you got

976
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Speaker 5: to drop people back right and it might be josh

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Speaker 5: Heinz Allen one time. Hopefully it's not too much, but

978
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Speaker 5: it might be a defensive tackle. That's just that's how

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Speaker 5: modern defenses operate. So I wasn't mad at you know,

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00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: a defensive tackle dropping back if that means you're gonna

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Speaker 5: blitz somebody.

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00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either.

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Speaker 6: Just I don't want to see josh heines Allen going back.

984
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to see him going back a lot,

985
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 6: because he plays his best football going forward. You know

986
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Speaker 6: what I did like that I saw on Sunday was

987
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Speaker 6: where the linebacker takes a false step like he's going

988
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Speaker 6: back in the coverage. The fake blitz. You know, that's

989
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Speaker 6: become a big deal. They Jack Heider did it twice

990
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Speaker 6: and did it a nice job with it. Both times

991
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Speaker 6: of taking a step back, making them hesitate, you know,

992
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Speaker 6: opens up a lane and then he comes in and

993
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Speaker 6: got a little pressure a couple of times.

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00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: They're going to be creative. You know.

995
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 6: You hear nothing but good things about the defensive coordinator,

996
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 6: you know Campanelli, and you're gonna see a lot of creativity.

997
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, if you're not getting.

998
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 6: Great pressure on the interior, which we know they haven't,

999
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: you got to be creative. That you have to get creative,

1000
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 6: and I think that's going to be the challenge for

1001
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 6: this team.

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Speaker 4: Uh Pete. We can dig in this a little bit

1003
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: in the second hour as well. But there were moments

1004
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: where vinrel Miller was in with the first team defense

1005
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Speaker 4: and Devin Lloyd was not What do you make of that?

1006
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1007
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 6: And you know he made a couple of plays in

1008
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 6: the run game. He's a good run player. He you know,

1009
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 6: the one pass on the sideline was on him. He

1010
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 6: completed it on him and he was frustrated over it.

1011
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 6: But he looked more active in the passing game. I'll

1012
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 6: be honest with you, I think that posmission is okay.

1013
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 6: You know they're fine there, there's no here's what you

1014
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 6: don't see from that position, even with Aluikam makes a

1015
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Speaker 6: lot of tackles, and Lloyd's okay, pretty good in the

1016
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Speaker 6: run game, and Miller's good in the right. Do you

1017
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 6: see guys going to the backfield and slam guys for losses?

1018
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 6: Even last year, going back to last year, it doesn't

1019
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 6: happen a lot. Jack Kaiser made one of those plays

1020
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Speaker 6: on the short yardage play yesterday. He made a play

1021
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 6: where he slammed in there and and made a tackle

1022
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Speaker 6: for a loss and it kept they got the first down.

1023
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Speaker 3: It didn't look like.

1024
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 6: They did, but remember that play when he slammed in there,

1025
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 6: made the play, So they have that position's okay. It's

1026
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Speaker 6: not great, but it's okay. There's enough guys there that

1027
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 6: can get by with it. But Miller's a thumper man.

1028
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 6: He can eat, he can get to get to the ball.

1029
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 6: The one thing about him last year was coverage. He

1030
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Speaker 6: had coverage problems, and.

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Speaker 5: I feel that's kind of the same thing with Lloyd

1032
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Speaker 5: as well, where if you look look at all the

1033
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Speaker 5: analytics and everything of a PFF like that there, he's

1034
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Speaker 5: really I mean, he's highly toled, at least according to them.

1035
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Speaker 4: In the run game, but in coverage, you know, he

1036
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Speaker 4: is lacking a little bit.

1037
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Speaker 5: So once again we talk about this defense of what

1038
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 5: it's going to look like, giving different looks and everything

1039
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 5: and keep offenses guessing, you know, like where where does

1040
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 5: Lloyd fit into this thing? And I think him playing

1041
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: an extended period of reps like that's not by mistake,

1042
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 5: Like I think that was a message of hit, you know,

1043
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 5: saying to him like, hey man, you have to step

1044
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 5: it up a little bit if you want to be

1045
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 5: the full fledged starter.

1046
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: We I mean, when PFF loves Devin Lloyd, their their

1047
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: numbers are are far greater than that thing.

1048
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Speaker 4: What's that Madden does too? Like the video game Madden

1049
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: loves Lloyd as well.

1050
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Speaker 6: I don't I don't understand it because you know, in

1051
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 6: Jacksonville they don't even give a fifth year option.

1052
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: He has to lose a bunch of weight to get,

1053
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Speaker 3: you know, to stay on the field.

1054
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Speaker 6: And and here we have ratings by the analytics, film

1055
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Speaker 6: launchers and mad to.

1056
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Speaker 3: Have him being like top ten linebacker. Seriously, he's right.

1057
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: I think if I'm not in PFF, he's right as

1058
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Speaker 3: one of the top ten linebackers. That's ridiculous. He hasn't

1059
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: played to clearly to the expectations. So it's a big

1060
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Speaker 3: year for him.

1061
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Speaker 6: But the fact that they're rotating guys in now that's

1062
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Speaker 6: not a good look.

1063
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Speaker 4: One note here, Tony Boselli was the one that always

1064
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Speaker 4: hated PFF grade, and now Pete has kind of crossed

1065
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Speaker 4: the Thresholder you're always a PFF lover, Pete.

1066
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Speaker 3: No, I was never a PFF.

1067
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Speaker 4: I used this.

1068
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Speaker 6: I just use it as a mechanism to get the

1069
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Speaker 6: SELLI going. I had my own med I had a

1070
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Speaker 6: method to my madness. I know he hated it and

1071
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Speaker 6: then we get him gown, but you know he's not wrong.

1072
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Speaker 6: Though you watch the film, you can come up with

1073
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 6: an idea whose grade is pretty good. You don't need

1074
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Speaker 6: to have a coach in grade in the film saying

1075
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Speaker 6: plus or mine. You know, overall picture, you don't know

1076
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Speaker 6: the responsibilities.

1077
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Speaker 3: On a play.

1078
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Speaker 4: That's true. Hey, we're gonna come.

1079
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Speaker 3: Back defensive line. Can you watch a tape and tell

1080
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Speaker 3: the responsibilities of a defensive lineman on?

1081
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Speaker 5: And this is the thing you got some guys drop

1082
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 5: back into coverage. I remember Joe Collen coming into the

1083
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Speaker 5: locker room one time and ripping up the PFF report

1084
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Speaker 5: because he said it was and I can't repeat what

1085
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Speaker 5: he said, but he had some choice words.

1086
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Speaker 4: Back in a moment. Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour

1087
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Speaker 4: presented by Jet Home Loans. But I thought that they responded.

1088
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Speaker 7: The team responded in the right way, you know, for

1089
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Speaker 7: the majority of the majority of the game in terms

1090
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Speaker 7: of coming out, starting fast, defensively, I thought they played

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Speaker 7: really well throughout, you know, until obviously the end do

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Speaker 7: you you know, put him in a tough spot there,

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00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 7: and then you know, I was pleased with the way

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00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 7: that we ran the football early on with the guys,

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00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 7: you know, with the guys that you know, we expect

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Speaker 7: obviously to be contributing at a high level for us consistently,

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00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 7: and I thought Trevor, you know, minus obviously the fumble

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Speaker 7: was pretty sharp.

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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen after the game in New Orleans seventeen to

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Speaker 4: seventeen tie yesterday, Welcome back. It's our two of Jaguars

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00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: after the game, and during the game. We're on Tenjinexljaguars

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Speaker 4: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.

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00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 6: J P.

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Speaker 4: Shadwick with Austin Lane from the Hyundai Studios, the Miller

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00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 4: Electric Center, Pete Prisco down in South Florida, TI Final

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00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: seventeen to seventeen. The Jags offense played two drives of

1108
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: fumble and a touchdown. The Jags defense had their act

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00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: together they forced two punts. The Jags make a trade,

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Speaker 4: sending Luke Fortner to the Saints for defensive tackle and

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00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 4: now position battle time headed to Miami for preseason Week three.

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00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 4: Questions on the O line, linebacker, position, safety, running back.

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00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: Lots to determine this week. THEO practice against the Dolphins Thursday,

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00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: the game Saturday night at seven o'clock, and in about

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00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes or so, we will keep it real and

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00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: cut the roster. Pete, are you with us? I see you.

1117
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: We don't hear you, new button. Something happened over there.

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00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. Hey yourself, Pete, what in

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Speaker 4: the world.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I don't know what happened. Hey. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to take my first little shot at the

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Speaker 3: head coach.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, Okay, this is only the second show of

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00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: the season and you're already going in on Liam.

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00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 6: This is I'm not going in on because I think

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00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 6: he's done a really good job so far. But I'm

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00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 6: going to go into my nitpicky playbook. Oh, it got

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Speaker 6: a first down with three something less in the game.

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Speaker 6: Do you remember it was a completion on the roll

1130
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 6: out to the right and he threw it back across

1131
00:49:59,320 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 6: the field.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember who caught it. It was for about

1133
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: twelve fourteen yards or something. Okay, yeah, and okay, give

1134
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: me that scenario. JP. You got the book right now,

1135
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: get it right here.

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00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: So this is four point thirty two to go. They

1137
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Speaker 4: got the football at their own thirty four.

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Speaker 3: But on third down he hit a tight end.

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Speaker 4: It was a third and fourteen singer for eight yards.

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00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: So when they got there they got a thirst That

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Speaker 3: was on the bubbles screen. I'm talking about the one.

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Speaker 6: There was a play before where Walford went was flushed

1143
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 6: to the right and threw back into the into the

1144
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Speaker 6: crowd and it was caught by somebody.

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00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: For John Bowman. Yeah, so that was second and seventh.

1146
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 4: It was the second play of the drive, three to

1147
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Speaker 4: fifty one to go. Wolford passed short right to Bowman

1148
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Speaker 4: to the forty seven for ten yards and a first down.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So that do you take the play clock down

1151
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: gives you the three minutes. What did he do in

1152
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: first down?

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00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: Next play passing complete short right to Bravey?

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00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 3: Well, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: You run the ball, either make them use of time

1157
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 6: out or or you run the clock because at the.

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Speaker 3: End of the game, clearly that mattered, and you don't

1159
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: can talk.

1160
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Speaker 6: You can talk all you want about preseason games and

1161
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 6: everything else, but situationally.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be ready for that too. Why would you

1163
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: throw the ball in that scenario. There's no reason at.

1164
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 4: All, because you wanted to see more from his backup

1165
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 4: backup quarter right.

1166
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 3: Will be so valuable.

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Speaker 5: I just think you want to see what he's got. Man,

1168
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: Like you keep a practice squall, everybody can turn around

1169
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 5: a hand it off.

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Speaker 6: Pete Dawston, you made the point about not wanting ties

1171
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 6: because you hate ties.

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Speaker 3: Well, you clearly play the game to win.

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00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 6: So if you're playing the game to win and you're

1174
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Speaker 6: a head coach in that situation, don't you have to

1175
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 6: play it like it's a real situation too.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, Pete, because I've seen teams

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Speaker 5: go for two point conversions when they shouldn't, Like I

1178
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Speaker 5: think coach has handled the preseason differently, and I think

1179
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 5: it's more about evaluating the back end of the talent

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Speaker 5: that it is actually maybe even winning a football game.

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00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: Honestly, I get it in the.

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Speaker 6: Second third quarter, but in that scenario, you turn it. Okay,

1183
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 6: you can evaluate the back end. Running back turn in

1184
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 6: hand off the.

1185
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 4: Running backs a pretty money. I think they handed him

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00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: off to him the next play and he lost four yards.

1187
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 6: Okay, But but if he handed off to him on

1188
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 6: first down you get two or three, then you gotta

1189
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Speaker 6: you got it. They got to use the time out,

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Speaker 6: so literally the time mattered.

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00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 4: Pete the opening drive, first play, they handed it to

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00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: Jackson three yard, game clock runs down and then the

1193
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: pass short right for a first time but again then.

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Speaker 6: JP, Okay, okay, if that's a if that's a regular

1195
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 6: season game in that exact same scenario, are you is

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00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 6: it criticizing him for.

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Speaker 5: Throwing the ball in that scenario, I'm I'm I'm demanding

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Speaker 5: that you run the football. I think that probably leaves

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Speaker 5: the show.

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Speaker 3: So situationally it was the wrong decision. You would agree

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Speaker 3: with me.

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00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 4: From a time perspective, probably, sure, Okay, the.

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Speaker 6: First time head coach, you should be losing using the

1204
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 6: preseason to work on your own evaluation.

1205
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Speaker 4: Maybe he's so far ahead of you, Pete, that he's

1206
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: already thought about all this and it's like, you know what,

1207
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 4: let's get the guy some passing.

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00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: Round or or did somebody change the play?

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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 4: Ooh, maybe there was an audible right. Maybe maybe he's like,

1210
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna take my chance right here.

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Speaker 6: In fairness to him, the guy was wide open and

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 6: Walford threw a crappy ball, so it should have been

1213
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 6: a completion, but it wasn't. And that's the risk when

1214
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 6: you do it that scenario. And it saved the time

1215
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 6: and they went down the field scordon because Slaughter had

1216
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 6: a terrible little sequence of plays.

1217
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: But and and so they was it was not okay.

1218
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: So that's I'm being nitpickyus.

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00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 6: I always do situationally, look at the game and look

1220
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 6: at how it would play out. And in that scenario,

1221
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 6: you run the ball, make him use the time out

1222
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 6: because they only had one time out. If I'm not mistaken,

1223
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 6: in that scenario, they used it in that drive.

1224
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: No, no, they had three going into the drive.

1225
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: I mean on the by the time they got the

1226
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: ball back, they had won.

1227
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 4: Correct.

1228
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: Correct, but they didn't use what they didn't have to

1229
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: use one after that incomplete pass?

1230
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 4: Did they know they did not? The clock shocks. You

1231
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: are really nidpicky today, Pete, that you are.

1232
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm a situational junkie, you know how I

1233
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: am JP. I've always been there.

1234
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: Gave it, gave them an opening, the Saints to come

1235
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 4: back and tie the game.

1236
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 6: Correct, correct, don't give them any and Austin, they could

1237
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 6: have worked on the backup running back.

1238
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 4: No, no, I get you.

1239
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 5: And now that Saints will take that momentum that they

1240
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 5: gained from tying the game and probably taking the Super Bowl. Pete,

1241
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: as far as okay, that's another part of this. Who's

1242
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 5: the Saints quarterback?

1243
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 4: It will be now, Pete.

1244
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 3: Rattler.

1245
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 6: Rattler is going to think, so, yeah, that was a

1246
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 6: bad interception he through, But I think that the receiver

1247
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 6: didn't kind of get across the face on that.

1248
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: But I don't, I don't. Chuck didn't look very good

1249
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 3: to me.

1250
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 4: Crazy that Shuck is a week older than Trevor Lawrence.

1251
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, you would think a guy had been around and

1252
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 6: played so much football, he would have been that much better,

1253
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 6: you know, calmer, but he's not.

1254
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 3: You know, he seemed a little hirky, jerky like when

1255
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: he felt when he saw a winger coming out I

1256
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: him and he fell backward.

1257
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: I mean, well, I don't know, you know, that was like, yeah,

1258
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 4: those those lights got kind of bright for him. I

1259
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 4: feel like weird.

1260
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: You know what He's been at like seventy two spots,

1261
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: and I saw an interview with him once where he

1262
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 3: made an excuse for every single one of them. I don't,

1263
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't ever want to hear that, you know what

1264
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: I mean.

1265
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 6: At Oregon, I was supposed to be a starter, you know,

1266
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 6: and then they brought in Anthony Brown and he took

1267
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 6: the job, and they wanted him to be a starter.

1268
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 6: So I transferred. I went to Texas Tech. And when

1269
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 6: I went to Texas Tech, I got hurt. Nobody knew that,

1270
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 6: but I got hurt. You know, those kind of things

1271
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 6: along the way.

1272
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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't want to hear that.

1273
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: How are you? In general? Though, with like guys who

1274
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: move around. It's just the name of the game now

1275
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: in college football. If you're going to draft somebody, you're

1276
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 4: going to have to deal with somebody.

1277
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: He's been at it. He's been moving around before they

1278
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: even had to moving around.

1279
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 5: Attitude man, it should be named Show probably calls him

1280
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 5: Shot Simon's real name.

1281
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 4: Probably pretty because you're moving around for If.

1282
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 3: You're moving around for an nil check, that's a whole

1283
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 3: other story. Come on, I'm doing a lot of moving.

1284
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 4: Come on, he's moving all the time.

1285
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: I'm moving every other Tuesday. If you give me an nil.

1286
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: Check, I love that. We're gonna keep the keep it real,

1287
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: coming up shortly and cut the roster probably in about

1288
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 4: eight minutes or so.

1289
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 5: Keep it real, but we're diagnosing third quarter, fourth quarter

1290
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 5: coaching decisions in a preseason game. He is as real

1291
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 5: as a cas That's what I'm saying.

1292
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

1293
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 3: He's never been a he's never been a situational coach.

1294
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 3: So why not you use it for your advantage? Work

1295
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: on yourself. Don't they have the analytics guys.

1296
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: On the feet. I got analytics people coming out of

1297
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 4: their ears over here.

1298
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 6: Okay, so there's not one analytics guy in the world

1299
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 6: that would tell you to throw the ball in that scenario.

1300
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: Nobody.

1301
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 6: And if they do, yeah, if they do, you know

1302
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 6: you know, well, first off, you know how I feel

1303
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 6: about analytics, they're not all the same.

1304
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: Every game is not the same, correct. You know, if

1305
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: you're playing a forty five to forty three game, it

1306
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: isn't the same as when it's six three, go for it,

1307
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: go for it, go for it.

1308
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 6: Well, it's forty five to forty three, Okay, you might

1309
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 6: go for it. If it's sixty three, you're not going

1310
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 6: for It's a different game. And like I always tell

1311
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 6: Tony Kahan, when they come up with fourth and an

1312
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 6: inch evaluations instead of just inside, you know, there's different

1313
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 6: different levels of that. They don't measure them buy inches

1314
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 6: on the stat sheet.

1315
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: In case anybody's wondering, it's good.

1316
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: We weren't wondering.

1317
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: We knew. No.

1318
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 6: But you know, but when they say, okay on fourth

1319
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 6: and one, every time they get x amount of first

1320
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: downs in this scenario, okay, is it fourth and an

1321
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 6: inch or is it fourth in just inside the other yard?

1322
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: Not the same play?

1323
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, And I agree with you, Pete. Like

1324
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 5: when it comes to analytics, I'm the same way. I'm

1325
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 5: definitely old school in my line of thinking when it

1326
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 5: comes to the whole analytical thing, just because there's a

1327
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 5: lot of variables that you don't take into account for

1328
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 5: right and momentum, I think is a big thing in

1329
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 5: a football game, and that doesn't really get accounted in

1330
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 5: terms of analytics. I think it's it's crazy that you

1331
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 5: can just go out a piece of paper or put

1332
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 5: in a calculator, whatever you want to do, be a

1333
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 5: nerd about it, and go, Okay, we should do this

1334
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 5: here because you know, because well, yeah, because I went

1335
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 5: to MIT, so I know what I'm talking about, you.

1336
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 6: Know, But yeah, Austin, like if it's fourth and one

1337
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 6: in a situation where the game is tight and you're

1338
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 6: on your own forty five and all the fourth and

1339
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 6: one data says to go for it. In that scenario,

1340
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 6: you know, Okay, say you don't have a great run

1341
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 6: blocking off asive line, but the other teams.

1342
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: Do and the data is better for them, but it's

1343
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: worse for you know. How do you how do you

1344
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: balance all that? And you have to be smart about it.

1345
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 6: That's where coaching instincts come into play, which is why

1346
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 6: I wanted Liam going to use.

1347
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: In this scenario.

1348
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 4: Our mister Chovy's food option for the evening for our

1349
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 4: production staff tonight, we had some wings, chubby style wings.

1350
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: Had did you get into them.

1351
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 4: I didn't get to the wings I had. I had

1352
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: a slice of a chicken case adea.

1353
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Oh, because if you had the wings with that new beard,

1354
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 3: you might have had some of that left over here.

1355
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: It would have been right next to the gray there.

1356
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 4: Hey, Peter, are you growup? Beard yourself? Hered? What are

1357
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 4: you doing?

1358
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: Man?

1359
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: We do this for the show. It was the last

1360
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: time you grew a beer.

1361
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: Never. I don't think I could. Never, I don't even

1362
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 3: think I can. I wouldn't want a beard, no offense

1363
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: to YouTube. It's it's I mean a lot of stuff.

1364
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: It would cover up a lot of your you know, slights, Pete.

1365
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look at your face.

1366
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: We look at that face. You're you're clearly covering it

1367
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: up for a reason.

1368
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: Hey, at least I came around, did it.

1369
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: Austin? I don't think I've ever seen you without the beer.

1370
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 5: I mean, you could probably go on Google and check

1371
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: out some college photos, Pete. But you're not missing much.

1372
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: Man. Let me tell you. I think I look much

1373
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 4: better with the beard.

1374
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: And JP, what's your excuse?

1375
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: I was lazy for about a month during the summer,

1376
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 4: and I decided I liked it, and then I trimmed

1377
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 4: it up and kept it. Hing's too much.

1378
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: Work as a fellow bald man.

1379
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 6: You know what, whenever a ball guy grows a beard,

1380
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 6: I think he's trying to get people to look away

1381
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 6: from the top of his head to.

1382
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 4: The help I can get. Pete. I'll grow up wherever

1383
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: I can, because there's certain places, like a.

1384
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 6: Distraction from your your it's gone, So let's grow some

1385
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 6: here where I can grow something, because I can't grow

1386
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 6: it up here anymore.

1387
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: No doubt about that. There's no fight in that, Like

1388
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: there's no circle in the wagons anymore. Like it is

1389
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: all over. It's done, it's done.

1390
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: It's done. Mind when yours is gone. Austin still has

1391
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: a full talk to me in ten years.

1392
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be juicing or anything that stuff.

1393
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 4: I'm not going to trick it out or do all

1394
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: these medicines.

1395
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 6: You know what I always to say is, could you imagine, like, okay,

1396
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 6: like this is new for you in the summer. But

1397
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 6: like one summer I took off and I got like

1398
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 6: hair plugs or something. I came back into the off

1399
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 6: and they said, everybody, go, well, Pete's got fake hair.

1400
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 6: Now it's worse than if you don't have anybody.

1401
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 5: Murmur about it, to get a hair transport, brand new

1402
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 5: city where nobody knows you, you're talking about like.

1403
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm on the air.

1404
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, I got new he's like one

1405
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 6: of the frat boys in Alabama.

1406
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: I was like, when I was a kid and I

1407
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: had the hair, Hey, let's come back.

1408
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 4: We're going to cut the roster. This is one of

1409
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 4: our favorite exercises. I think Pete could have cut it

1410
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 4: like two weeks ago.

1411
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: You could cut it to And by the way, you

1412
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: heard Liam Kohen right away, what did he say, like

1413
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: other than three players, he knows what he's doing. Basically,

1414
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: we can all cut the roster. I don't think it's

1415
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: much of a problem. By the way, just for pictures,

1416
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 3: that's when I was a kid.

1417
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: Look at the hair. Look at that flow right there.

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: You just had that close by your desk. All of

1419
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 4: a sudden, Yeah wow, I.

1420
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 3: Had a thinkful of pictures in here. That was in

1421
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: my dad's house.

1422
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: But I love that.

1423
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah now, but I had a lot of hair. I

1424
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: had hair like that until I was in my thirties

1425
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: and then it went jp, you never had hair.

1426
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 4: We'll come back and to get into this a little

1427
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: bit later. Pete, we gotta get a.

1428
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: Break because you're only life thirty five.

1429
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, present of

1430
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 4: by mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour,

1431
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: JP Shadwick, Austin Lane, Pete Prisco after a Jaguars tie

1432
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: preseason Week two, seventeen seventeen. This week the Jaguars head

1433
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 4: to Miami. They'll work out in Davy against the Dolphins

1434
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 4: on Thursday and then play at hard Rock Stadium in

1435
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: Miami Gardens on Saturday night, seven o'clock kickoff time. And

1436
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to the final preseason game. Liam Cohen

1437
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 4: expected this week with the media tomorrow after practice we'll

1438
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: get an update. Maybe they don't have to, but maybe

1439
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: an update on some of these injuries and maybe what

1440
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: they're thinking going into the matchup and the practice this

1441
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 4: week against the Miami Dolphins. It is time now for

1442
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 4: keeping it real, presented by nobody.

1443
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: Can we just put this message out there?

1444
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, years ago, I used to put together a list

1445
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 6: when I was at the cover of the team in

1446
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 6: the paper of who I thought would get cut and

1447
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 6: who might make the team, and one day, a certain

1448
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 6: player called me over and he said, hey, Pete, don't

1449
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 6: put my name in the paper as a guy who

1450
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 6: might get cut, because I don't want the team listening

1451
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 6: to you.

1452
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: And I went to him and I said, you can't

1453
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: be serious.

1454
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 4: Right.

1455
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: And I said, I have been no bearing on it whatsoever.

1456
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 6: I'm just speculating on who I think will or will

1457
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 6: not make the team.

1458
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 3: But that's happen. He thought, I put a name in

1459
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: the paper and the team would listen to me.

1460
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 4: I wonder, though, we'll we'll besell you in those guys

1461
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 4: rabbit Ears as we call him sometimes. Now would he

1462
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 4: listen to this and change his mind because of you?

1463
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: Rabbit Ears? Isn't making the decisions fair, right son?

1464
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 6: He might go in there like he used to try

1465
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 6: and bull rush us on here JP and try and

1466
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 6: bull rushing it.

1467
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: I call him, it's time we need to cut this guy.

1468
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: I think he would do that.

1469
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 4: You sound just like him.

1470
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: Well, you get remember how it used to get so

1471
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 3: worked out. I mean, yeah, that's why.

1472
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 4: We had to stop taking phone calls Austin because he

1473
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 4: used to Oh gosh, he was at It was bad

1474
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: just in terms of going through the fans.

1475
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: Then and oh yeah, oh, he alienated the fans. He

1476
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: will never admit that, but he's embarrassing.

1477
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 4: Is he on Twitter or not?

1478
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 5: Probably not? Then if he's really okay, I think he's

1479
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 5: still on there, all right? Is he thriving on there?

1480
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 5: Or is he having some issues? Is trying to clap

1481
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 5: back up people?

1482
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 4: Okay? So it's okay, okay, good, probably for the best.

1483
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so let's let's cut the team.

1484
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: All right, We're gonna start on an offense.

1485
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: Let's start with the quarterback position.

1486
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 4: Okay, there's four quarterbacks now, Trevor Lawrence gonna make it. Uh,

1487
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 4: Nick Mullins, let me.

1488
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: Say something about the backup quarterback. That's a problem, is it.

1489
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 4: Yes, Mullens played pretty good yesterday, right, did he? I

1490
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 4: mean he was efficient.

1491
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 6: You don't you think you can get five if you

1492
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 6: had to play five games with Nick Mullens?

1493
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 3: Okay with that? No, no, no, they like him.

1494
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 6: He's good in the room, he's good with the offense.

1495
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 6: He understands it. But I think that's a problem on

1496
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 6: this team.

1497
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 4: But all right, we can figure out the problem later.

1498
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 4: Like is he making the team?

1499
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's making the team.

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01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 4: On the team. John Wolford, are you gonna keep three?

1501
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna keep three. I think practice squad.

1502
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, practice squad.

1503
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 4: So Wolfirs's practice. What how about head again? The guy

1504
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: they got the rookie, see ya, he's out. I mean

1505
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 4: if he s he's gonna be practice squad, he's not

1506
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 4: gonna make the finals. So one of those two.

1507
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: Guys we'll keep too for this exercise. We'll keep two quarterbacks,

1508
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: right all right?

1509
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 4: Yes, for sure? Five running backs in the room, E

1510
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: T and Bigsby, Twoton, Alan Jackson?

1511
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: Can I pedal one.

1512
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 4: Again? Can one around? Do whatever you want? I mean,

1513
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 4: you're cutting your own team.

1514
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: If we're not going to trade it. Look, I think

1515
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: I said it last week. I still stand by I

1516
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: think Tooton should be the starting running back. I think

1517
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 3: he gives them something that the other ones don't.

1518
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 4: Okay, he's making it.

1519
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 6: Okay, Bigsby, ETN and Allen. And then you cut Jackson

1520
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 6: and then put Jackson on the on a practice squad.

1521
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 6: And if you decide to trade one of the veterans,

1522
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 6: if you got somebody who wowed you, like for example,

1523
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 6: if somebody offered you a starting our backup defensive tackle

1524
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 6: that have production or potential for Travis etn when you

1525
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 6: make that deal.

1526
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 5: I mean, it depends who this backup is. But if

1527
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 5: you can play a three technique and provide me a

1528
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 5: decent interior pass rush, then yeah, I think I would

1529
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 5: cease to consider that trade.

1530
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so that's right now.

1531
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 6: If we're going to cut this for the section without

1532
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 6: trading anybody or make any deal, I keep the four

1533
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 6: top guys.

1534
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, and I'm the same way too. Then Jackson's off.

1535
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 4: All right. Twelve wide receivers where it gets a little interesting.

1536
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 4: Jommy Brown, Brian Thomas Junior, Eli Pankle, Parker Washington, Travis Hunter,

1537
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 4: Dorian Singer, Chandler, ray Boy, Cam Camper, Josh Cephas, Austin Trammel,

1538
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: Trent and Irwin, Darius Lassiter. Let's start with that's the

1539
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 4: fun numbers too.

1540
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: So we got two quarterbacks and four running backs. Okay, yes,

1541
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: all right? Six So wide receivers you keep? The first

1542
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 3: four are definite.

1543
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 4: Brown, Brian Thomas, Junior, Parker, Washington, Travis.

1544
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 3: Hunter, Correct, those are definite.

1545
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 4: I get he's a training camp, Darling, but I do

1546
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 4: like Cephis a lot.

1547
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 3: You just took up about a half hour when he

1548
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 3: took the Jets sweep.

1549
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 4: Is he doing much on the special teams because they're

1550
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 4: not going to be five wide much.

1551
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 6: I'm not so sure number five or number six is

1552
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 6: on somebody else's roster right now.

1553
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: Oh oh oh interesting.

1554
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's for this exercise, let's keep five and six.

1555
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 3: Who we keeping?

1556
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm probably keeping Cefast because he has done

1557
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 4: some offensive things. I just don't know enough about his

1558
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 4: special team's prowess. Yeah, neither Irwin has done some things

1559
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 4: too well. Yeah, Trent Irwin's probably more of the special

1560
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 4: teams guy too.

1561
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of returns.

1562
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 6: But what about coverage, because you need a guy that

1563
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 6: could cover too, Tim Joe Tim Jones got kept all

1564
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 6: the time because he could do that stuff.

1565
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 4: I've been here in Chandler, Brave Boy's name a little bit,

1566
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 4: the rookie from Elon.

1567
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: I still think five or six is still on somebody

1568
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: else's roster. That's my belief. But for this exercise, we'll

1569
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: keep let's keep six. You got to keep six.

1570
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 4: We're keeping six, all right, keeping six? Moving on to

1571
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 4: tight ends?

1572
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 3: Which two? What are the other two we're keeping?

1573
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna keep Cephas and Irwin.

1574
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'm okay with that.

1575
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 4: But you also got Austin Trammell too, fourth year player.

1576
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: You know what, I keep travel ahead of Irwin? Yeah,

1577
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: I think I think he's a better receiver.

1578
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 4: Cool, all right, tight ends. There are seven on the

1579
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 4: roster at the moment, but they're not going to keep seven.

1580
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 4: I know Britain Strange is gonna make it.

1581
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: That's one.

1582
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 4: I think you go three here. I think you go

1583
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 4: Strange long and month Hunter long, and then I go

1584
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 4: Johnny Mont. Johnny Mont.

1585
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, those those three, that's three.

1586
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, makes sense to me. That's three. Okay. So we're

1587
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 4: at nine fours thirteen fifteen, and we haven't got to

1588
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 4: the offensive line yet. Okay, so who are are you

1589
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 4: keeping ten? With this group?

1590
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: I would keep ten, particularly with guys thinged up a

1591
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: little bit. So let's let's uh.

1592
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 6: You got the five starters that we projected. We can

1593
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 6: read them again for the audience. Little Cleveland, Hainsey, but

1594
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 6: Carry and Harrison, Yes, okay. Then Mannheim is for sure,

1595
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 6: Milam's for sure. That's seven. Now, Udoka that's eight, Fred

1596
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 6: Johnson nine. He's only on a one year deal. You

1597
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 6: could send him pack and it not cost you anything.

1598
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 6: With Van when's Van Lana's first?

1599
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 4: All right, he hasn't practiced, he's come out. Be the question.

1600
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 4: I guess he do you put him on the short

1601
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: term and bring him back so then you would keep

1602
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 4: somebody else.

1603
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 6: So that's that gets us to night. If we capt

1604
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 6: Fred Johnson, Yeah, there's not Is there a tenth? There's

1605
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 6: not a tenth?

1606
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 4: Not really. You might just keep nine for now and

1607
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 4: then make.

1608
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: It Foster has a been Foster hasn't been very good.

1609
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 4: Maybe you make it ten when if Van Lamon's healthy

1610
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: at some point?

1611
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nine now, kay, that's nine.

1612
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 4: All right, that's the twelve plus six is eighteen. That's

1613
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 4: four is twenty two plus two is what did I say?

1614
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 4: Twenty four?

1615
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 6: There will be one more offensive guy. I think they'll

1616
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 6: keep twenty five. You count the you count the kickers

1617
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 6: twenty six. You know the punter counts on the other side.

1618
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 4: So are you counting Travis Hunter as a receiver only

1619
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 4: they're both ways?

1620
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 3: No, we'll count them as the unicorn.

1621
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 4: Okay, one spot reserve for the unicorn?

1622
01:11:59,600 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 5: Got it?

1623
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 4: What they what they called Nard Robinson the offensive? Remember that?

1624
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: Well? But Travis Hunerd told me, remember one was here.

1625
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 4: He said, he's the unicorn self appointed. All right, let's

1626
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 4: do defense quickly here before we get to another break

1627
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 4: here coming up. How many defensive lineman are you keeping? Guys, Austin,

1628
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 4: what do you normally keep?

1629
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 5: I mean, this one's tricky, you could make it. You

1630
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 5: could justify eight. I almost want to go nine here,

1631
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 5: especially with the guy that you just traded for. Possibly

1632
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 5: you could go down.

1633
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: How do you count? How do you count? Like the

1634
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 3: edge you got like guard deck is he alignment or

1635
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: a linebacker?

1636
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 4: Linebackers a linebacker?

1637
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 6: Okay, so let's go to so Walker the ends are

1638
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 6: Walker Heinz Allen.

1639
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: O smoot, smoot. It's four okay for now, and we

1640
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 3: got inside.

1641
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,839
Speaker 6: You got Armstead if he ever returns, uh, Mason Smith,

1642
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 6: Hamilton Hounders, you don't trade for him.

1643
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 3: If you're not going to keep him. Then it comes

1644
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 3: down to.

1645
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 4: Tyler.

1646
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 5: Lisa's considered deep. I mean he's more of an end

1647
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 5: I guess, but you gotta keeps already list Sorry sorry, Lacy,

1648
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 5: or like Jordan Jefferson nose tackle.

1649
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 6: Or or the guy that just signed the big kid

1650
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 6: from that was with the with the bills before was

1651
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 6: Austin Johnson Johnson for big size, I mean he's a

1652
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 6: bigger guy. M And then is there a backup end

1653
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 6: for a fifth end?

1654
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 4: Miles Cole?

1655
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 8: He wow, coaches, I think guard deck can play end

1656
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 8: in some scenarios too.

1657
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 3: He can put his hand on the ground. He's done

1658
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: it before. All right, So that's there will be nine.

1659
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: One more defensive tackle maybe, Well.

1660
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 4: Then are you gonna count Saunders though?

1661
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did. Okay, we got five defensive tackles. We

1662
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 3: don't have a defensive end because you get to figure

1663
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: one of those defensive tackles Jefferson, Lacey or j Johnson

1664
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 3: might be on the team. Yeah, all right's particularly with

1665
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 3: the injuries.

1666
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 4: Let's pick Austin Johnson for now tenth year veteran, just

1667
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 4: for this argument. That's nine. Okay, linebackers. Foyer is making it.

1668
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 4: Vin trel Is gonna make it. Dennis gard That is

1669
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: gonna make it, Devin Lloyd, jack Ky make it.

1670
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 3: Let's say this Abdul has been better?

1671
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 4: Do you making it?

1672
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 3: Yes, he's making it.

1673
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 4: Guard Deak all right, that's six right now, ka Kaiser, Yes, No,

1674
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 4: Chad Mumma on this list right now?

1675
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 3: No, he's gone.

1676
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Brandon intriguing as hell is call yeah number fifty.

1677
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 6: That kid makes plays. I mean you could make a

1678
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 6: decision to keep in because I think he's got some talent.

1679
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 4: How many arena can you watch it?

1680
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 3: You watch the tape he makes? He gets after it.

1681
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 3: He's tough. I don't know how good he isn't covers,

1682
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 3: but he gets after it.

1683
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 5: We're at six right now without him? Could you practice

1684
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 5: squad him you think? Or is there enough film out

1685
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 5: there where another team is gonna want him?

1686
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 3: No, you probably practice squad him.

1687
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:28,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well we'll take six linebacks nine six is fifteen.

1688
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 4: As we go to the defensive backfield.

1689
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: Well, by the way, some of those guys got to

1690
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: be special teams players. So which one is it going

1691
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 3: to be?

1692
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: Mm?

1693
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 4: Who can run?

1694
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 3: Because guard Deck and Abdullah are special teams guys, right.

1695
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 4: Gard Deck is yes, yeah, coming off, coming off coming

1696
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 4: off that maybe not immediately, but yes.

1697
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: But he's coming off in ACYL.

1698
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 4: You don't know he's going to be his second a

1699
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 4: cl injury.

1700
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know how he's gonna be true.

1701
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 4: Let's go to the defensive backs. Corners who are keeping.

1702
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 3: Austin got Kaiser will be a good special teams player.

1703
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kaiser's that guy that makes sense. Tyson Campbell's making it, yep.

1704
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis, Jordan's definite. And we've already counted Hunter, so

1705
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 4: we're not counting him here.

1706
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 3: But what's monterak Brown's injury status?

1707
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 4: I mean, gonna be out all camp is what we were.

1708
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 6: Told because he was running with the first team at

1709
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 6: one point he was he was well, he's healthy, he

1710
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 6: makes it.

1711
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you want to count him here.

1712
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: We're counting him's count him?

1713
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 4: Okay, that's four right, that's four or five, it's four corners. Well,

1714
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 4: but we're already counted Hunter on the other side.

1715
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 6: Okay, but well, okay, but he's one of the corners.

1716
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 6: But so we need one more corner because when he's

1717
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 6: not playing.

1718
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 4: Taking braswell, DeAndre Prince.

1719
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 3: Ransaw, if he's healthy, Ransaw is making the team no

1720
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 3: matter what.

1721
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but how do you count I'm counting him safety.

1722
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 5: I mean I think they may safety.

1723
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 4: Okay, how about the new guy that just signed Lovely

1724
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 4: you had to pick the other night, No, no, not

1725
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 4: making it all right? I would say take Christian braswell

1726
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 4: that's just me, all right.

1727
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 5: So that's six corners that we're keeping braswell. Right, Wait,

1728
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 5: we got Campbell, Lewis Jones, Brown Braswell. Who's the six hunter?

1729
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 5: But okaytch okay.

1730
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 6: And by the way, the fifth corner might be on

1731
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 6: somebody else's roster too, gotcha.

1732
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 4: All right, safeties, this is where he is special teams.

1733
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: By the way, Murray Winger ran ransaw.

1734
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 4: Three.

1735
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 3: I think Antonio Johnson's much better than he's been. I

1736
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: think he stays.

1737
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,799
Speaker 4: That's four. I think Savage stays as well. You think.

1738
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 3: About that one, you don't think so it makes a

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Speaker 3: lot of money, and.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's he's gonna be. I don't think he's

1741
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 4: really a special teams guy either, But I just think.

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Speaker 6: I would put him on the market and tell any

1743
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 6: team that needs a safety, you give me something your return,

1744
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Speaker 6: you can have them.

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Speaker 4: You know who's megan is Raywan Lane? Yeah, that's five.

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Speaker 6: And he counts as special teams gone, then you got

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Speaker 6: it comes down to Thomas or Savage, and Thomas plays

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Speaker 6: special teams and Savage does it right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much is Savage playing special teams.

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Speaker 4: I don't recall him see him a lot.

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Speaker 3: No, Thomas does Thomas dos yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If

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Speaker 3: if Savage is a backup s Pete, what's his contract?

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: Look up his number. There's no conceivent way you could

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Speaker 3: keep him as a backup unless there's unless they have to,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think they do.

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Speaker 6: You never know what the contract trump, Bob, he probably

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Speaker 6: locked in for the next decade.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as ownership rights. You don't think the vers of

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01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 4: Tony though Savage Pete can give him the dge here.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I think when he plays nickel corner he's

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Speaker 3: a spinning top. I don't, I won't. I think that

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Speaker 3: was a mistake on their part.

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Speaker 4: Let's see dead cap. This year's ten million for him.

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Speaker 3: What's his cap number?

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: Four point four four point six cap hit?

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Speaker 3: So they take a hit on it by getting rid

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he might.

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Speaker 3: I mean what's he making? What's he making for? What's

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Speaker 3: his salary for the year?

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Speaker 4: His salary is what's an average of what let's see

1772
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 4: here three years, twenty one million, so seven point two average?

1773
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's his actually base salary?

1774
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 4: Two point two?

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01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I keep him?

1776
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 4: Man, we sure about Devin Lloyd by the way.

1777
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 3: Top ten linebacker in the NFL says the PFF.

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Speaker 4: It's a new group Pete.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but okay, in that scenario, if he doesn't make it,

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Speaker 6: if you cut him, which I don't think they're gone

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01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 6: to cut him, but if you cut him, that means

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Speaker 6: you keep the kid from uh from wake Forest Colmbs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, he makes it, then, Okay, watch your.

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Speaker 6: Three linebackers are Miller, Alua, Khan, and Kaiser will be

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Speaker 6: the top three.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're not wrong.

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Speaker 5: It was a statement for how long he was in right, Like,

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Speaker 5: if you're a starting linebacker, you should have been out

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01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 5: in after two or three series, And he was out

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Speaker 5: there for predominantly the entire game.

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Speaker 3: So that doesn't that he also got rotated out with

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Speaker 3: the ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that does speak a little bit. But so

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01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 4: we've cut the roster. There it is. It's done deal.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're cutting Lloyd. I don't anybody want

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Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd for a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 4: I bet they do. Yeah, let's come, oh yeah, maybe

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Speaker 4: backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I mean, if they got to play with Nick Mallins,

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Speaker 3: you might as well pun on the season. That's all

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, do you think he's any team in the

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Speaker 5: league can say that like with a backup? Most teams, yeah.

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01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 3: Most teams, but some teams actually have decent backups. Do

1805
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: you think the is Nick Mullins any better than Mac Jones? Yes?

1806
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 3: Not much better. Did you like what you saw from

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Speaker 3: Nick Mallins yesterday?

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Speaker 4: I think the arm leaves you less than be desired.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, it's like the only but once again, and like,

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Speaker 5: this is the thing, if we're talking about backup quarterbacks,

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Speaker 5: how many teams out there are confident with if their

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Speaker 5: backup quarterback goes out halfway through the season, they're going

1813
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Speaker 5: to make a playoff run, right right?

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Speaker 4: Like I understand we.

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Speaker 5: Always have the Nick Foles experience in Philly, but that's

1816
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 5: an anomaly, right.

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Speaker 3: So I agree with you. I agree with that they're

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Speaker 3: Look okay, let's say look at Cleveland right now. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: give you example, Indianapolis. Would you rather have Daniel Joe

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Speaker 3: if Richardson stars? Who is Daniel Jones a better backup

1821
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 3: to have than than than Nick Mallins?

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Speaker 5: Sure, I absolutely gree with that. I think Jameis Winston

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Speaker 5: would would be a better backup, right like I mean that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Jaifer jamis there. We go trade say, Okay, let's come

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Speaker 5: back involves. We've had enough of this. We've kept it,

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Speaker 5: We've kept it real enough for the day. Fanatics fan

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Speaker 5: questions as many as we can stomach. When we come back,

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Speaker 4: Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shaddrick, Austin Lane,

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Speaker 4: Pete Prisco. After a tie in pre season Week two

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Speaker 4: Jaguars seventeen Saint seventeen, We'll go ahead now to the

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Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins practice on Thursday. In pre season week three

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Speaker 4: on Friday and our second hour of Jaguars Happy I

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Speaker 4: are presented by mister Chubby's Wings. It's time now for Austin.

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Speaker 4: I think this might become your favorite segment of the show.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We'll have to see how it goes over a few weeks.

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Speaker 5: The fanatics fan questions, Okay, you're a man of the people.

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Speaker 5: I try to be, you know, so sometimes the people

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Speaker 5: don't like what I have to say, but I always

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Speaker 5: try to be a man of the woll Why would

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Speaker 5: you say that? Why would I say that?

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Speaker 4: I'm on Twitter. I see how it goes. Sometimes you know,

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Speaker 4: it's wild West out there.

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Speaker 3: And they love you or hate you. You don't want anybody.

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Speaker 4: Polar yea, So it can be polarizing.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I can't say, like, I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 5: had like this year this, you know, for this offseason

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Speaker 5: and everything in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've been in good graces. But we'll

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Speaker 4: see once the regular season starts what I have to

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Speaker 4: say about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm already in bad graces. I'm criticizing the coach's decisions.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, and the backup quarterback doesn't have a

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Speaker 4: chance apparently.

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Speaker 3: Want me to want me to lie and say he's

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady waiting for the guy.

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Speaker 4: Nick Pope Joy. Will Travis Hunter be okay for the

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Speaker 4: regular season? I think, yes, I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 5: But the silver lining is is that he shows that

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 5: he's human as well. Right, So we're talking about he's

1868
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 5: gonna play the whole game offense and defense. Maybe let's

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01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 5: take our times here a little bit. Let let's make

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Speaker 5: sure that he's one hundred percent and ease him into

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01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 5: his pro career. Let's not throw him to the Wolves

1872
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 5: right away. One hundred percent of offense, one hundred percent

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Speaker 5: on defense.

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Speaker 3: What was the injury?

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 4: He said, upper body? I think.

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Speaker 3: Fight.

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Speaker 4: I think pete. It happened during if I and I'm

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01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 4: just speculating here a little bit, during the scrimmage. It

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01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 4: kind of fell on a deep pass that wasn't connected

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 4: and like kind of fell weird on his side. It's

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably what it was. That's the only

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01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 4: thing that game.

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Speaker 3: Does he play on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: If he's playing in a regular season game, probably Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I would think he's gonna play if it's a regular

1886
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Speaker 4: season yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look, because like I said, everywhere I go, people ask

1888
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 6: about Travis Hunter and they say, oh, I don't know.

1889
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Speaker 6: Even players I've talked to, I don't know if he's

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 6: big enough to handle that endurance wise, he can handle it.

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Speaker 3: The question becomes is he big enough physically to handle it?

1892
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 3: And I'm not so sure he's not. But again, when

1893
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 3: you get injured in training camp, that's never a good

1894
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 3: thing for a guys going to play both ways.

1895
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Speaker 4: And he had some injuries in college as well. He

1896
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 4: had the shoulder. What do you have like an internally

1897
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 4: lack of liver some lacerated liver or kidney something. Yeah, yeah,

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01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 4: that's a chip shot though thin Colorado State. That was

1899
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 4: it was yeah, yeah, it was. Next question at nine

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Speaker 4: or four Colby, what's your his concerns with this defense?

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 4: And why?

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01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 3: Hmm? Pete middle of the defense? Can they can they

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01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 3: stop the run?

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01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 6: Can they can they stop the run consistently enough and

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Speaker 6: get interior pressure? Like Austin mentioned before, somebody's got to

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01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 6: be able to generate some pressure from the interior to

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01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 6: help those edge guys, and they didn't do a very

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01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 6: good job of that last year. Somebody's got to be

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 6: better again. I keep counting on Mason Smith. I guess

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Speaker 6: he's working almost on the side now to the point

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Speaker 6: where he could be back this week.

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Speaker 3: Is that true, JP?

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Speaker 4: I don't might. I mean, it feels like that's the

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Speaker 4: next step. He's got to do something right before the

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Speaker 4: season goes.

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Speaker 3: He's got to I would like to see him work

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Speaker 3: this week against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean for me, it's it's the

1919
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 5: same thing as Pete mentioned. I've been saying this for

1920
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Speaker 5: the past couple of weeks now, until I see Mason Smith,

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01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 5: until I see Eric Armstead, it's gonna be the interier

1922
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 5: that defense, simple as that. And unless you need me

1923
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 5: to go eat like all the wings in the in

1924
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 5: the studio out there, to try to put some weight

1925
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 5: on to come back and make a comeback career here,

1926
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 5: like you're gonna have to address it.

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Speaker 4: To lose weight right now, you're trying to cut weight.

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Speaker 5: I am trying to lose weight right now. Yeah, but

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01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 5: I mean, hey, the team comes first. I don't see

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Speaker 5: the UFC giving me all these cool shirts and everything

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01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 5: like that. You got another fight coming up, there's nothing

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Speaker 5: on the paper right now. Have to get a little

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Speaker 5: surgery quick on my knee. Nothing major. It's going to

1934
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 5: be like six to eight weeks. I'll be out, and

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Speaker 5: then the goal is that I'm kind of breaking news

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Speaker 5: right now. I haven't announced it yet, but but I

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Speaker 5: might be dropping down to two hundred and six pounds

1938
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 5: and fight out light. Have youweight for my next one.

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Speaker 5: I'm about two thirty right now. Wow, cut the beard,

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01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 5: you know, shaved the dreads off a little bit, which

1941
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 5: would be good to go.

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Speaker 3: Are you know the UFC is now on going on

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Speaker 3: Paramount Plus, it's going on CBS. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure whe they're getting all their money from

1945
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 5: be because they just paid south Park like a billion

1946
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 5: dollars and now they're paying the UFC like seven billion.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen my contracts up. I mean the seven

1948
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 4: billion looks good.

1949
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 5: I hope the fighters see some of it, because it's

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01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 5: not like the NFL where we're putting the pie. You know,

1951
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 5: the UFC, they have a majority of the pie, and

1952
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 5: then you know, we we we get some some scrap

1953
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 5: three once in a while.

1954
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 4: Let's get a couple more questions in before we call

1955
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 4: it here at d t W twenty eight eighty two.

1956
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 4: By the end of the season, Britain Strange will be

1957
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 4: viewed as a top five tight end of the league.

1958
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 4: From what have you seen from him? And do you

1959
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 4: feel like this is possible?

1960
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 3: Pete, I don't think he's getting the top five, but

1961
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 3: he'll be in the top ten. I mean top five.

1962
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 3: You're talking about Kittle, You.

1963
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 4: Know Trey McBride, Howard McBride.

1964
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, he's not He's not getting in

1965
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 3: the top one, but he can get into the top ten.

1966
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: I think he's improved a lot too, by the way.

1967
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 6: I think he might be now if he's asked me

1968
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 6: to name tight ends that do both and rank him

1969
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 6: in the top five, he might be.

1970
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 3: In that by the end of the year. Because there

1971
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 3: are a lot of those guys. They're not some of

1972
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 3: those guys are great bloggers.

1973
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 4: Who's the best, Who's the best of both? Kittle? Yeah, yeah,

1974
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 4: for sure.

1975
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 6: I mean he's that makes him the best tight end

1976
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 6: of the league because he's a he blocks like a

1977
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 6: a tackle, and he's he's good in the passing game.

1978
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 3: Kittle the best one.

1979
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that.

1980
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 5: And like I get, we say top five will always

1981
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 5: get like, you know, the fantasy relevsy, like who's gonna

1982
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 5: be the fantasy football tight end? And I don't think

1983
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 5: Breton Strange can be a top five in terms of

1984
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 5: fantasy purposes. But if you want to combine the the

1985
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 5: you know, the blocking and the run game and the receiving, yeah,

1986
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 5: I think top even, like top seven could be could

1987
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:36,839
Speaker 5: be doable.

1988
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 3: From him. What do you think? What do you think

1989
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 3: his numbers are?

1990
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 6: What do you think he's That's what you gotta ask

1991
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 6: yourself is numbers.

1992
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 3: How many catches?

1993
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 4: How many? How many catches are all these other receivers getting, well.

1994
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 3: How many catches did he have last year when they

1995
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 3: didn't use them?

1996
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not even gonna look that up, but

1997
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 9: I'd say he should have seven touchdowns fifty here, so catches,

1998
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 9: that's what it should be.

1999
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,759
Speaker 5: Because I think we're starting to see now with Breton

2000
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 5: Strange like he's gonna become Trevor Lawrence's security blanket. I think,

2001
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 5: And if Trevor can keep getting that confidence in the

2002
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 5: pocket we've been saying, he looks different, I think I

2003
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 5: don't call him like a checkdown guy like Evan Ingram

2004
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 5: was back a couple of years ago. But I think

2005
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 5: in terms of a security blanket, he can be that

2006
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 5: guy for Trevor.

2007
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 6: But again, on the opening, the opening throw, he's down

2008
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 6: the seam, he's wide open, you gotta throw that.

2009
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: I think that's where he's going to become more of

2010
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 3: a factor than he was even even a year ago.

2011
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 6: So fifty and seven, that's that'd beig good season for him, right,

2012
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 6: fifty catches, seven touchdowns.

2013
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 4: I'll take that. Yeah, that's not a bad season.

2014
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. No. And plus is blocking. That makes him one

2015
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 3: of the top ten. That would make him one of

2016
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 3: the top ten tight ends in the league. I like that.

2017
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 4: That's it for fanatics fan questions tonight. Appreciate all the submissions.

2018
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 4: We'll get to more as the season goes along. We'll

2019
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 4: come back in a moment. We'll get our final thoughts

2020
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 4: going into the Dolphins game. He's gonna beat at practice.

2021
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Thursday. Are you gonna be there?

2022
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll be there. We'll come back and dig into

2023
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,280
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2024
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2031
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 4: Jags will go to Miami this week and they'll practice

2032
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 4: against the Dolphins Thursday and Davy at their practice facility,

2033
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 4: and then the game is Saturday. Are the Dolphins any good, Pete, No,

2034
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 4: they're not.

2035
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 6: But they have some good young players I've been impressed with,

2036
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 6: like Jenn Grant, the defensive tackle from Michigan.

2037
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 3: Really impressive looking kid. So I think their lines are

2038
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 3: better than they've been.

2039
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 6: The left tackle Patrick Paul Guy I really liked it,

2040
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 6: has been outstanding this preseason.

2041
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 3: So they have talent. I just don't think they're deep

2042
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 3: enough that I think their secondary is bad. The corners

2043
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: are really bad.

2044
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 6: And it'll be interesting to see how they practice because

2045
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 6: I watched the joy practice between Miami and Washington last year.

2046
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 6: Washington comes out on the field, they got all their

2047
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 6: uniforms on and everything, and Miami's over there and half

2048
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 6: the guys are dressed.

2049
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 3: Some of them are doing they're they're not practicing. It's

2050
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 3: it's so it's so haphazard. With that guy, I don't know,

2051
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 3: but it'll be interesting to see if they are they

2052
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 3: going to pad it up. I mean, what's the point

2053
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 3: if they don't, right, I would, But Miami and Washington.

2054
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 4: Remember remember when the Bucks came here, they padded one

2055
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 4: day and then did in the next. We're like, what

2056
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 4: is that?

2057
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 3: I hope they padded up?

2058
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 6: I want I want to see padded practice, you would

2059
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 6: hope by the way that practice facility, you walk in,

2060
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 6: you look around and you go, oh my god, it looks.

2061
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 3: Just like the one here.

2062
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 4: I think that's the idea.

2063
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 3: I think it was that it's almost identical.

2064
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 4: The idea is to save undesigned time and cost. Was

2065
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 4: just almost basically copy that one. Pete, what do you

2066
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 4: attribute to cause?

2067
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 5: Like usually you see a team with the joint practice

2068
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 5: of but the Mammi Dolphins have taken it upon themselves

2069
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 5: to get like every joint practice that they can.

2070
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 4: You know, like, what is there? Just is there?

2071
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 3: I think a question of Dawson, you know what I

2072
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 3: think that was when they went up there.

2073
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a team that had been kind of

2074
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 6: fraid and he's trying to bring him back together. And

2075
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 6: he thought if he goes away for eleven days as

2076
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 6: a team together, and they worked and had the work,

2077
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 6: but it's more about the bonding of the team.

2078
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 3: Because they left on a on a if I'm not mistaken.

2079
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 6: They left on a Tuesday practice with the Bears with

2080
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 6: the Lions Wednesday Thursday, played that game and then or

2081
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 6: the other way around, and then then played the Lions.

2082
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 6: So they they were up there for eleven days. They

2083
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 6: were away from their facility for eleven days. That's a

2084
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 6: long time in training camp.

2085
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm gonna be gone for eleven days

2086
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 5: on the Mammi Dolphins, I'm going to Antarctica so I

2087
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 5: can actually play in a cold for once. I'm gonna

2088
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 5: take my guy's dan Arctica instead of precedent, like, hey,

2089
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 5: you guys are gonna learn how to play in cold

2090
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 5: weather because playing in Lambell last year, I wasn't it.

2091
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 3: No, It's like they don't they They're terrible in cold weather.

2092
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

2093
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: Not tough. They're not tough. It's not a tough team.

2094
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 3: Let's put this way.

2095
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 6: If Jacksonville goes down there and has problems with that team,

2096
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 6: that's a major red flag.

2097
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 4: Red flag. Is the coach gonna make it?

2098
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 3: Not after this year? M I think he's done. I

2099
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 3: think Chris Greer's done the front office. I think they're

2100
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 3: gonna start a new I really do.

2101
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 6: I think if they think about that division, Buffalo clear

2102
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 6: clearly the best team.

2103
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 3: The Jets are better, even with Justin Fields playing quarterback,

2104
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 3: they're better. And New England's on the rise.

2105
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 6: New England's coming, Mike Rabel's gonna have that team fighty.

2106
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 6: What does Miami give you? They give you a pretty

2107
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 6: pretty offense. You know they're gonna crowl up in the

2108
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 6: fetal position when it's time to play tough, and they

2109
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 6: just don't have the secondary.

2110
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 3: They're starting corners are off the scrap heap.

2111
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. If you see, like the roster a

2112
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 5: couple of years ago, like that was the wind to

2113
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 5: it seemed like for Miami to make a run and

2114
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 5: they didn't really even come close to that.

2115
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 4: So explosive with that speed on offense.

2116
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, offensively those score points. But Austin think about this.

2117
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 6: After the season, he was talking about he kept finding

2118
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 6: players and they were still late. What do you mean?

2119
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,520
Speaker 3: What do you mean? And he clearly it was Jalen Ramsey.

2120
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 6: Along with who, by the way, is a problem wherever

2121
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 6: he goes. Yeah, and Tyreek Hill doing what he wants

2122
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 6: to do. But you're the head coach, you got to

2123
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 6: I don't care who the hell they are. You're on

2124
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 6: my team, you're doing it my way, or you're not playing.

2125
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 4: Pete, aren't you the one that told Jalen to be

2126
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 4: the villain.

2127
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 3: Don't be be stupid.

2128
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 4: I thought that was you.

2129
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 3: I did tell them to be the villain, but to

2130
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 3: cash in on his being a villain.

2131
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 6: But he got to show up for work on time

2132
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 6: from what I had not when I was told the

2133
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 6: team would be on the field, and like twenty minutes later,

2134
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 6: he comes, sneak in and get into practice.

2135
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 3: You know, he was one of those guys nobody saw me.

2136
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 4: Hey got you guys. I was here the whole time.

2137
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 3: The coach is ultimately responsible for that, though.

2138
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 6: If the leaders of that team are not handling things

2139
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 6: the right way, the coach needs to step in and

2140
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 6: make sure that they do. And if they don't, then

2141
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 6: you don't play. Yeah, he's late, I'm finding him or

2142
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 6: I find him again.

2143
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do? Who you know what

2144
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do? Sit his ass down and take

2145
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 3: away his game check.

2146
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 4: Jaguars approached this week with this being the only joint practice.

2147
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 4: I would assume that the starting guys will get a

2148
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 4: lot of their work in the practice and probably not

2149
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 4: should and probably not in the game.

2150
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 5: Yeah and should yeah, no, well without a doubt, you know,

2151
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 5: especially you know, I don't expect them playing the last

2152
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 5: preseason game, all right, So then go go do your

2153
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 5: work against another team with a different colored jersey on

2154
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 5: and show them what you can do. And to tackle

2155
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 5: Pete's point, like on defense, you should be able to

2156
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 5: carve that Dolphins team up, you know, on offense, whether

2157
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 5: tyree Kis would be practicing or not, like it'll keep

2158
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 5: at least I think that's or secondary honest, And if

2159
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 5: we get a little Travis Hunter Tyreek Hill matchup, I'll

2160
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 5: be mad at that.

2161
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with that at all.

2162
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 3: No, I'd like to see I'd like to see that actually.

2163
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 4: Be a pay per view right there.

2164
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 6: And by the way, next when they do play the Dolphins,

2165
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 6: that's what life's gonna be like without Trevor Lawrence. Enjoy

2166
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 6: it if he's not playing, because you're gonna see Nick

2167
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 6: Mullens play a lot.

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Speaker 4: Pete, We'll see you on the practice field Thursday, Frisco,

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Speaker 4: Austin Plaine. Thanks to oving tyre Crew, David, Joe britt Reaver,

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Speaker 4: Joe Fortunado. Thanks to you for watching and listening. This

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Speaker 4: has been Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by mister Chubby's Wings