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Speaker 2: Got the updown report. We're gonna take a look at

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Speaker 2: the playoff picture and ask you guys, which potential playoff

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Speaker 2: matchup you most want to see and why. But let's

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Speaker 2: start just sort of buy addressing quickly. I assume here

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Speaker 2: last night's three games in the league, your biggest takeaway

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Speaker 2: from each game is what I'm looking for. Start with

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Speaker 2: the Raptors play the homework card here, Oh, Raptors one

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Speaker 2: on one, Jazz ninety two. What's your biggest takeaway from

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Speaker 2: this Raptor's victory closing out their road trip?

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Speaker 5: The Raptors are a very good thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, crap.

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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: Ago, I said that Nick Nurse is gonna win a

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Speaker 6: Coach of the Year, and I think he strengthened his

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Speaker 6: case last night. Marcasol didn't play the second night of

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Speaker 6: back to back Fred van Vliet was out norm Power

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Speaker 6: Eastern Conference Player of the week. He was out after

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Speaker 6: ninety seconds. The Jazz led this game with under six

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Speaker 6: minutes ago. They had momentum. They were looking like maybe

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Speaker 6: the Raptors were like, we just want to get home,

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Speaker 6: but instead they close it out. Just another inspired performance.

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Speaker 6: And what I really like about Nick Nurse is, you

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Speaker 6: know we talk about a players coach. I think he

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Speaker 6: really is a players coach.

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Speaker 5: Players play for him.

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Speaker 6: Players He communicates so well with his players, and they

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Speaker 6: go out there and everyone seems to be able to

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Speaker 6: just understand there's just minutes out there for you if

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Speaker 6: you want to go out there and perform. The Jazz

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Speaker 6: are not a good home team against good teams, for one,

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Speaker 6: but they should have won this game. This was a

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Speaker 6: winnable game again Raps on the fifth game of five

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Speaker 6: game road trip, second night of back to back, they lead,

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Speaker 6: the crowd was into it, and they just couldn't close

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Speaker 6: it out. I just thought Og stepped up. Kyle Lowry

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Speaker 6: once again was brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Hit some bombs Kyle.

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Speaker 6: Kyle takes some high risk, high reward, but he hits

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Speaker 6: them against Sacramento to the night before. Some of them,

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Speaker 6: you do sort of think that was maybe not the

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Speaker 6: smartest shot in the world. But Kyle sort of just

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Speaker 6: has that freedom now, I think, and that belief in himself.

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Speaker 6: So I think two teams really showed who they were

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Speaker 6: last night. Raptors are a legit contender in my book,

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Speaker 6: and the Jazz are not.

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Speaker 3: You agree with that the Jazz or not, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what they don't know what they are. If

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Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert isn't playing very hard then it just seems

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Speaker 3: like they don't have an identity. And that's simple as that.

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Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert was a disappointed, big disappointment last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's not this is a repeat of That's something

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Speaker 3: that's been said many times over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 3: He's supposed to be an All Star, he's supposed to

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Speaker 3: be a leader. You look on the other side of

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Speaker 3: the floor, Kyle Lowry in year eight with the Toronto Raptors,

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Speaker 3: he's clearly their MVP. Whether Pascal Siakam is their best player,

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Speaker 3: goes back to the DeMar de Rosen days, called DeMar

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Speaker 3: DeRozan their most offensively gifted player. Kyle Lowry is the

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Speaker 3: heartbeat of that team, while Rudy Gobert's heart is not beating.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's just it's frustrating to watch on the

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Speaker 3: other side of the floor. They're just not a united team,

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Speaker 3: while the Raptors are obviously really give a crap about

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Speaker 3: each other and playing to win. And they won last

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Speaker 3: year and they played, you know, to Kauhi's capabilities, I guess,

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. But now they just know that they

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Speaker 3: have that confidence, and I think that's real. I don't

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Speaker 3: think that's some stupid sports thing. I think they just

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Speaker 3: I know I'm pointing at him, but I think you

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Speaker 4: He seems to be letting the offensive side of the

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Speaker 4: ball affect the way he plays defense, which hasn't always

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Speaker 4: been the case. Since the All Star Game, he's had

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Speaker 4: four games where he had single digit points, has yet

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Speaker 4: Star Game, and I think he's getting mad about it

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Speaker 4: because they miss him a lot of times. Underneath the hoop,

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Speaker 4: Engles is by far their most natural playmaker, and when

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Speaker 4: those two are on the court, I feel like Gobert

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Speaker 4: going to succeed offensively. But if they're not running an

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Speaker 4: you'll get an offensive put back, and that seems to

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Speaker 4: be affecting him on the defensive end. The other issue

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Speaker 4: I would see with the Jazz is that they get

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Speaker 4: lit up by forwards, and then you look at the

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Speaker 4: best teams in the Western Conference, some pretty good forwards.

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Speaker 2: Good forwards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty seven last night for Pascal Siaka man, it

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Speaker 4: seemed like anytime he could get a rebound and then

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Speaker 4: push the ball in transition, it was an easy bucket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Surge another great game for the reps. Twos

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Speaker 2: have an unbelievable season. Go Bert, Yeah, six points, four boards,

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Speaker 2: thirty two minutes. He was ejected with Ogion Andobi. There

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Speaker 2: late altercation between the two some Jocelyn going on, no

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Speaker 2: no fists thrown or punches thrown, I should say, or

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Speaker 2: anything like that with forty seconds ago, but go Bart.

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Speaker 2: I think in part frustrated with his role offensively and

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Speaker 2: then maybe with the with the officials ejecting him, said quote,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it makes sense to me that he

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Speaker 2: official can eject me for a reason. Basically, I'll get

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Speaker 2: my money's worth what he's saying there. Not a happy man.

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Speaker 5: Right now, no, I think.

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Speaker 3: But he was trying to sorry, but he was trying

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Speaker 3: to get ejected. I mean he went to god body

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but O G. O G tried to elbow him.

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Speaker 2: Should have been a classic. Were less than a minute

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Speaker 2: to go games and.

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Speaker 6: What happened was O G block Go bet just before

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Speaker 6: where he probably found him, you know, but not not

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Speaker 6: one of those like egregious fouls. It was like it

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Speaker 6: was a bit of body there. But I think what

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Speaker 6: there to him because he because he definitely reaches up

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Speaker 6: for the elbow. And I think that's where Rudy's like, hey,

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Speaker 6: you saw that the ref didn't do anything, and that's

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Speaker 6: when the sort of pushing and shoving came out. But

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Speaker 6: they didn't need to be ejected, neither of those guys.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, Rudy's frustrated beyond doubt right now. And I

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Speaker 6: would actually say not that I expected this to happen,

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Speaker 6: but Tony Bradley gave them good minutes last night. Defensively,

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Speaker 6: effort wise was there, the energy was there, and then

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Speaker 5: Had that couple of baskets.

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Speaker 6: But of course, you know, Quinn s Knight is not

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Speaker 6: going to bench his all star and run with his

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Speaker 6: probably warranted it.

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Speaker 3: And you talk about alstar, donvid Mitchell didn't impact the

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Speaker 3: game all that much. He was just kind of there,

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Speaker 3: and I think we should just mention him because it's

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Speaker 3: easy to point the finger at Rudy Gobert and he

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like he's a big part of the offense.

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Speaker 3: But donvid Mitchell has to impact the game a little

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Speaker 3: bit more than what he did last night.

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Speaker 2: The other takeaway here too is I mean from the

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Speaker 2: don't think the Raptors are ever going to be healthy,

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Speaker 2: fully healthy this year. I mean, it is wild. You

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Speaker 2: said it there, Norman Powell. He's coming off the Eastern

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Speaker 2: twenty eight points per game since he last returned from

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Speaker 2: his injury. He was shooting fifty three percent from the floor,

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Speaker 2: fantastic the best norm season we've ever seen. But now

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Speaker 2: he's out with a sprained ankle and we're waiting to

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Speaker 2: see how you know, serious, It was didn't look good

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Speaker 2: and was really being sort of carried off for the

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Speaker 2: most part back to the locker room. But yeah, still

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Speaker 2: no gasol or he's sitting in a back to back

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Speaker 2: if they'll ever truly be healthy. But luckily they have

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Speaker 2: games with the defense. And that's the second point. This

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Speaker 2: damn team is so resilient. It is. You know, they

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Speaker 2: the Jazz, no doubt, but it was the Raptors defense

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Speaker 2: holding them the one basket in the final five to

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Speaker 2: forty five of this game. Lowry quoted after the game,

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Speaker 2: our team is unbelievable with just kind of staying in

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Speaker 2: the moment and understanding what we have to do. This defense,

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Speaker 2: it's weird to say on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: this defense attacks. There's no other way to put it.

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Speaker 2: They attack because their whole thing is we're gonna try

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Speaker 2: and protect the rim, but we are going to pressure

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Speaker 2: you and we are gonna make you uncomfortable. And Nurse

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Speaker 2: had a great quote about this. He thinks being that

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Speaker 2: aggressor and getting up into the ball. It helps you

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Speaker 2: with you know, passing angles and fighting through screening roles

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Speaker 2: when you're just pressuring and yet you're sort of you're

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Speaker 2: coming first to the fight and you're taking the other

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Speaker 2: team's rhythm away offensively. I love it. And all these

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Speaker 2: guys do it. Their top two in deflections, top four

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Speaker 2: and loose balls recovered, top two in steals, the perimeter defense,

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Speaker 2: the switch ability, and all these guy and they win

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Speaker 2: all these games.

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Speaker 3: And they have the second best defense in the NBA

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Speaker 3: up from last year when they had Kawhi and also

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Speaker 3: Danny Green, which is impressive. They were their top five

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Speaker 3: last year, but now they're top two, which is the

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Speaker 3: community Just that's just team ball right there.

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Speaker 6: They communicate so well, and if someone is doubled, someone

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Speaker 6: is ready to cover up for that person if necessary.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of trust in Yeah, they very rarely

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Speaker 6: seemingly give up an open shot because someone is ready

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Speaker 6: to move to where the ball is going. Talk about

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Speaker 6: Norm Powell, it's the Fred van Vliet baby syndrome. Remember

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Speaker 6: Fred van Vliet when he had a baby in the

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Speaker 6: finals last year, then he lit it up.

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Speaker 5: He couldn't mess Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And now since Norm Powell has held Fred van Vleet's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that baby is just it's a good luck baby.

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Speaker 3: So Norm got to hold Fred van Vliet's baby.

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Speaker 2: Just flashing the baby, just being near the baby. This

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Speaker 2: Said, Nick Nurse, you think it's gonna win Coach of

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Speaker 3: They are the story of the season. I stopped myself

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Speaker 5: You know what, I will retract.

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Speaker 6: Itough super impressive though, really everything that the rapt has done,

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Speaker 6: but again, it's it's almost like a Spursy and Popovich style.

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Speaker 5: Jerry, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, all these guys seem to understand that their

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Speaker 2: What's funny about that is you compared to the Spurs.

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Speaker 2: When the Spurs last Kawhi, their defense fell off collect

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Speaker 2: and then some other Raptors get better. Yeah. It speaks

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Speaker 3: Story of the season changed. What's a better team story

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Speaker 4: How about the Lakers had their worst stretch ever in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the top six players in the in the league.

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Speaker 4: They got a back to back MVP. They were challenging

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Speaker 5: I'm transferring my homal to you.

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Speaker 4: That's right, I love it. Okay, the game of the

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that one. I'm not so sure about.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, but Bucks. He brought up the Bucks there.

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Speaker 2: They lost last night Nuggets one oh nine Milwaukee ninety

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Speaker 2: they played like their C team last night. Put up

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Speaker 4: Sad stuff. Honestly, the Bucks lose two games in a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 4: It's over. And that's completely right, because when you're seeing

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Speaker 4: Corver had a huge game, but yeah, they were reaching

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Speaker 4: Fun stuff from Jamal Murray. He was talking his trash,

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Speaker 4: he was dunking on guys and he was getting offensive.

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Speaker 2: What a what a just brutal call? Throw it in

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Speaker 2: and then it's called an offensive foul.

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Speaker 5: It was. It wasn't off.

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Speaker 6: You go up there and that's just like body on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because he didn't extend much extension.

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Speaker 3: No, were you supposed to put that left on right?

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Speaker 4: Your pocket like Orange Cassidy.

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool sunglasses on too.

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Speaker 3: So that's why they need baseball uniforms out there, so

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Speaker 3: that was the only story that matters in this game.

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Speaker 3: That play, which wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Fired up the crowd even though it got called back

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Speaker 5: The Bucks made this a game though they did.

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Speaker 2: They was a five point game.

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Speaker 6: It was, yeah, and it was Kyle. Kyle was on fire.

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Speaker 6: Those kisses were coming out last night.

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Speaker 2: He looks right, didn't give it to the YouTube crowd.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh beautiful.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be kissing your fingers right now,

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Speaker 6: But he had that other one that pull up in transition.

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Speaker 5: Looked beautiful.

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Speaker 6: I love watching Matt they play it's great, you'll.

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Speaker 2: Kitch had the another football touchdown assist. So he had

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna be one of the top two players

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely the Nuggets m when they have a

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Speaker 3: They lost to the Warriors last couple weeks, they lost

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Speaker 3: the Hornets. That's what they're doing. Maybe they follow Jokic's leader,

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the whole team, but they are one

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Speaker 2: All right, final game, the story of the night Hawks

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Speaker 2: one forty three, Hornets one thirty eight. This was a

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Speaker 2: double overtime game. What's your biggest takeaway tray from what

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Speaker 2: you call the game of the night.

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Speaker 4: I mean there was only three This one was actually close.

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Speaker 4: Takeaway what a free throws?

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Speaker 2: Do win game or lose you games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Who Trey Young with the huge myss there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's go through it that. Let's go

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Speaker 2: They should be getting the victory here kill, and Martin

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Speaker 2: would be a doozy. Yeah, Martin would be six feet

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Speaker 2: Like what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Like why'd you reach in? But you're right, Trey makes

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Speaker 2: overtime okay, it gets even more insane. End of the

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Speaker 2: first overtime one thirty one, one thirty one, not a

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Yes, both guys collapse. There's like a collision. They go

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Speaker 2: both go down. Now. The referee initially calls a foul

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Speaker 6: You can go back in time. Wasn't wasn't this the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's part of the play, yes they can

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Speaker 4: But they did call a foul. They call a foul

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right on Graham.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter it's not if it's part of the play.

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Speaker 3: If it's part of the same play, like if it

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Speaker 3: was an action on the left side of the floor,

438
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Speaker 3: the pick and roll was blown up, then it goes

439
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Speaker 3: to the right side of the floor. That part on

440
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Speaker 3: the left side of the floor can't not reviewable. It's

441
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Speaker 3: some weird stuffs, but they have to sort of draw

442
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Speaker 3: a line, and that was kind of part it's part

443
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Speaker 3: of the play.

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Speaker 5: You know what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Because this thing goes to double overtime after

446
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Speaker 2: it was all you know, overturn and all that with

447
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Speaker 2: less than thirty seconds ago. The hornets are down by

448
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Speaker 2: three two row zero. It's a huge like side steps

449
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,199
Speaker 2: three bomb. Now we're tied at one thirty eight, and

450
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 2: then the next possession ugly, weird hornets defense and a

451
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Speaker 2: lot of that on Rosier who had a lot of

452
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Speaker 2: those moments. John Schumann was pointing them out on Twitter.

453
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't really what he was doing. But Herder attacks

454
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 2: the paint, kicks it to a Hunter in the corner

455
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,119
Speaker 2: who's going to get a look, and he's fouled on

456
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Speaker 2: the three points by Martin again. Now which Martin, I'm

457
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 2: not sure. I can't keep them, can't keep tracking them.

458
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Speaker 5: Was it caleber Co?

459
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Speaker 2: I think it was Caleb, I'm kidding. So he fouls

460
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Speaker 2: them and then Hunter goes to the line and hits

461
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Speaker 2: all three And that was basically the game. They pulled

462
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Speaker 2: it out in the end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, game of the night.

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Speaker 5: Manes Try just loves freight throws. That's what it's throws.

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Speaker 3: I think what it comes down to in this game

466
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Speaker 3: was the Hawks play by play man Bob rathbun as

467
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Speaker 3: it was going to overtime after Trey Young missed the

468
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Speaker 3: free throw to send it to overtime. As it was

469
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Speaker 3: going to commercial, the last sound you heard was Bob

470
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Speaker 3: rathban just groaning. You can interpret that ash Tray miss

471
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 3: if you could have won, or we gotta go to

472
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Speaker 3: all the time. So I think you take that from

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Speaker 3: that game. Uh, you take that Jamal Murray missed down

474
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Speaker 3: from that game. And the Raptors are a good team.

475
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Speaker 3: Is that we said?

476
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Speaker 5: Very good?

477
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Speaker 3: Right? I think that's what you gotta take from last night.

478
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: Those three things fair enough.

479
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Speaker 2: Other thing with them the Hawks is you know, can

480
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Speaker 2: we get excited about the Hawks? No season?

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Speaker 4: Don't It's March. It's March. Nothing matters, nothing matters, nothing

482
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Speaker 4: counts in March. Okay, here's a question.

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Speaker 2: Yea impossible to answer, I know, But would the Hawks

484
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Speaker 2: be the Nets or Magic? Would they be a playoff

485
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Speaker 2: team in the Eastern.

486
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Speaker 4: Conference if Collins had no play the good they're not

487
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Speaker 4: good enough. They have two good players, John Collins and Trade.

488
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Speaker 2: They only had one good players. My point, for twenty

489
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Speaker 2: five games.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have more than two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: What was the Hawk's record last March?

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Speaker 2: Probably good?

494
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Speaker 4: Exactly seven and eight last month.

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Speaker 2: Well then they then they lost Collins for twenty five games.

496
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Speaker 2: I guess what I'm getting that here.

497
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Speaker 4: He's not that good. That he's making them.

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Speaker 2: Twelve with thirteen last night, thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: He's not.

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Speaker 4: He's not the reason that they would be a playoff team.

501
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Speaker 6: They should be better though, than second worst in the East.

502
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay.

503
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they have three fourer wins than the

504
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Speaker 4: ninth seed, right, that's not that bad.

505
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Speaker 3: Colins would have definitely improved them. But I don't know

506
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Speaker 3: if they would have been there because Kevin Herder has

507
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Speaker 3: been He's probably he's there again, another guy in their

508
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 3: starting lineup that's had a year under his belt. Otherwise,

509
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 3: they're playing rookies, uh and Alex Land for much of

510
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: the season until he was traded. So Kevin Herder I

511
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Speaker 3: missed ten games. But that's not excuse. He wasn't great.

512
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Speaker 3: Yeah they did. They don't have a lot of good guys.

513
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 3: They play rookies and DeAndre Hunter and Cam Reddish, who

514
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 3: has been getting better as the season has gone along.

515
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Speaker 3: He may he may potentially be a good three and

516
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Speaker 3: D guy.

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Speaker 4: Nice little hands there on the cut to tie the

518
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Speaker 4: game at the end of the first overtime could have

519
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Speaker 4: been a Steel easily toughed it out, got the layup.

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Speaker 3: And so that's it. I mean, we just named all

521
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Speaker 3: the guys. They they're very, very, very young. But yeah,

522
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're good enough quiteet.

523
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Speaker 2: They're very young. I think I tweet it last night

524
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Speaker 2: the Hawks broadcast shared a stat like in terms of

525
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Speaker 2: first or second year players that get a percentage of

526
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Speaker 2: the minutes. This year, it's Hawks won by a mile befour,

527
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Speaker 2: It's were actually second, and then the Grizzlies were a

528
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Speaker 2: third playoff team in the West.

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Speaker 5: This is Travis Schlank's plan though, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, Cue, you know, I don't know if you've heard

531
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Speaker 2: the recent low In Arnovitz podcast, a lot of coaching

532
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: talk off the Kenny at Atkitts and firing. Will Lloyd

533
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Speaker 2: Pierce be the coach of this team next year? Like

534
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Speaker 2: will he be given another chance to see this through?

535
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Speaker 2: Or will they make a move.

536
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Speaker 5: I think he'd be fine. I think he's got another year.

537
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Speaker 2: I think you say that wearing an atl shirt.

538
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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.

539
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was Travis's guy, so I think he wants

540
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Speaker 6: to give him a chance to see it through. He's

541
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Speaker 6: got something again, all these these players, you know, Tray

542
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Speaker 6: is any second season Hunter and Reddish in there first

543
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Speaker 6: You've gotta give him a little bit of time here.

544
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Speaker 6: I think they're both very good. I think there's some

545
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Speaker 6: very nice pieces there. They still seem to be missing something.

546
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Speaker 6: But if they can get it together, I definitely feel

547
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Speaker 6: next year they'll be disappointed if they're not competing.

548
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is the next year, if Pierre

549
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: is still there, is it a make or break. You

550
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: gotta at least sniff the playoffs here.

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Speaker 5: You've got to be in play of contention deep into

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Speaker 5: the season.

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Speaker 6: I think in the march, I would say mar, depending

554
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Speaker 6: on when the seasons thoughts.

555
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Speaker 2: Alright, I can't believe we did that much time on

556
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: those three games from last night. Kudos does That's why

557
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: it pays the big bucks.

558
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the updown Report.

559
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Speaker 2: The Updown Report, brought to you by scrillis first one,

560
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: this is crazy. Yesterday, the NBA, NHL, MLB, and MLS

561
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Speaker 2: announced that they are closing access to locker rooms to

562
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Speaker 2: all non essential personnel in response to the coronavirus crisis.

563
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: The changes, which the league say are temporary, basically begin

564
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: today with player availability at practices and after games held

565
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: outside the room or in many cases, at news conference

566
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Speaker 2: podiums now, the NBA said interviews with players will continue

567
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Speaker 2: in settings than the locker room, stressing a gap of

568
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: six to eight feet between the reporters and interview subjects.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be just like All Star weekend when

570
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 2: those guys are very far away from you.

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Speaker 4: You have to have a podium, you have to have

572
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Speaker 4: a table that's right where we're putting those recorders.

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Speaker 2: So I think this is a very serious issue, of course,

574
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: and polarizing people. Thinks, you know, we're overreacting. Some people

575
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Speaker 2: think you're definitely in America that we're not doing nearly enough.

576
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: But are you up or down on the NBA limiting

577
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Speaker 2: locker room access to try and battle this the virus.

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Speaker 6: I'm up on it for now. I think it's the

579
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Speaker 6: first step. There's probably more to come, right I think

580
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Speaker 6: the NBA just has to sort of take a roll

581
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Speaker 6: here and say we're going to try and do what

582
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Speaker 6: we can to help prevent the spread of this virus,

583
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Speaker 6: because it's clearly taking over around the world. I mean,

584
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Speaker 6: you've seen in Italy they're playing behind closed doors. There's

585
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Speaker 6: no fans allowed in right now. The country is like

586
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Speaker 6: on lock the country is in quarantine. And I think

587
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Speaker 6: I think we are going to reach the point not

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Speaker 6: the country in quarantine. I think the NBA is probably

589
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Speaker 6: going to be playing some games with that fans at

590
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Speaker 6: some point, I think in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: And they told teams to prepare for that possibility last week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And that's why I'm a little bit

593
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Speaker 4: down on this because it just seems like a half measure.

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Speaker 4: You're keeping at what two hundred people probably at most

595
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Speaker 4: from the media out of a locker room, but you're

596
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Speaker 4: allowing fifteen thousand people in to the arena, carrying things,

597
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Speaker 4: buying food, right, cheering, passing beers back and forth to

598
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Speaker 4: each other. How to I mean, I understand that they're

599
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Speaker 4: just trying to protect the players, so you're eliminating a

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Speaker 4: little bit of the face to face. They're really trying

601
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Speaker 4: to get rid of the scrums, which is a dirty

602
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Speaker 4: sounding word in the first place. They're worried about the

603
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Speaker 4: germs between You know, when you're in there, you're shooting

604
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Speaker 4: your arm forward, you're touching arm to arm, you're doing

605
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: shoulder to shoulder. You're really close in there in a scrum,

606
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Speaker 4: no doubt about it. So that is going to help,

607
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Speaker 4: But it just seems like a minor thing to do,

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Speaker 4: and probably honestly like a trial balloon to be like,

609
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Speaker 4: here's our first step. We're doing this. In a week,

610
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Speaker 4: we'll be playing games with nobody in the stands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's totally totally fine to do. I

612
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: don't understand why they're just not having press conferences, just

613
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Speaker 3: sitting at podiums and everybody in their chairs and not

614
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Speaker 3: scrunched up in a hallway, Like why don't they just

615
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: go to a standard finals protocol. I mean, everybody would be.

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Speaker 4: Seem to be kind of what they want to do

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Speaker 4: afterwards after the games. Maybe it's a little bit much

618
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Speaker 4: for pregame. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. There's a room, there's chairs, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I assume that that would be a little bit more

621
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Speaker 3: hygienic then guys standing in a hallway at six to

622
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Speaker 3: eight feet. But here we are. I think it's totally fine.

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Speaker 3: They're saving the players from it, from possibly spreading it,

624
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Speaker 3: because if one player gets it, it's spreading. Basically, it's

625
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: doubling in a lot of states here in the US

626
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Speaker 3: weekly and so if one player gets it, everybody I'm

627
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Speaker 3: I'm you know, jumping to conclusions. But everybody's out of

628
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Speaker 3: a job. Everybody, the game stop and all personnel, which

629
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: is the most important thing, don't have jobs and may

630
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Speaker 3: be unpaid. And that's what the that's what the worry

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Speaker 3: is in the US is that a lot of people

632
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Speaker 3: here are on unpaid leaven a lot of industries and

633
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: aren't making money and can't feed their families who live

634
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Speaker 3: paycheck to paycheck. So that's the crazy part. So is

635
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: it a snowball effect? I would yeah, I agree. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. True. With the fans in

637
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: the arenas, I mean, we're all getting sick. Everybody's getting sick.

638
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: Well this decision. Yeah, with the media, it doesn't affect

639
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: the bottom line in terms of making money, and that's

640
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: why they're doing it right now.

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Speaker 4: It seems like they're doing something, but really this is

642
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 4: this is barely anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I agree with that too. And maybe it

644
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: is just like you said, like the first little baby

645
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Speaker 2: step two ultimately saying all right, well you guys are

646
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Speaker 2: either we are somehow and I don't think it's really possible,

647
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: but we're completely shutting down games or moving the season.

648
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you're right, it's going to

649
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 2: be more likely that we're just not going to put

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Speaker 2: anybody in the stands and they're gonna play for television

651
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: and there's still a broadcast money to be made and

652
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Speaker 2: all that. But all these concession workers and security and

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Speaker 2: what have you, if you're not on a U yeah

654
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Speaker 2: and utel I assume a lot of them are not

655
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Speaker 2: across a lot of these stadiums, then yeah, and that's

656
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: a tough, tough look. But if this is what they

657
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: have to do to try, and you know, they're talking

658
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Speaker 2: to all these you know, infectious disease and public health experts,

659
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: and this is their recommendations, and you sort of got

660
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Speaker 2: to follow it.

661
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Speaker 6: I mean's if well, you can't rely on the government

662
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Speaker 6: risk take the lead either, well, right now, I mean

663
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 6: that's clear, there's there's the information coming out of the

664
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Speaker 6: government is not to be trusted. So you have to

665
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Speaker 6: find your own people who are experts in the industry

666
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Speaker 6: who can perhaps give you some clear information and information

667
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Speaker 6: you can believe.

668
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Speaker 2: The NBA stresses too that this move is not too

669
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Speaker 2: like ban reporters. You know, it is for the safety

670
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Speaker 2: of the players and for the staff. But there I've

671
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: seen like sort of like there's like this blowback here

672
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: from the media side of things, is like there's worry

673
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Speaker 2: that doing this will now then never allow the reporters

674
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Speaker 2: back into the locker room.

675
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Speaker 5: I don't think that concerned the NBA at all. You

676
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Speaker 5: don't think so, Adam Silver.

677
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Speaker 6: I think understands that it's very, very important to have

678
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Speaker 6: that communication and that openness I think with the players

679
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 6: in the media. So I don't think it's a long

680
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 6: term solution, a long term problem. I think exactly how

681
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: long this will last no one really knows, but it

682
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 6: could be for the rest of this season, though potentially

683
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Speaker 6: next one.

684
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Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawk's CEO Steve Conan has a plan to increase

685
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Speaker 2: the NBA's ratings start and end the season two months later.

686
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Speaker 2: All right, this was going on at the Sloan Conference.

687
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about this on yesterday show. Under Conan's proposal,

688
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: the start of the NBA season would shift from mid

689
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Speaker 2: October to mid December, after college football has completed his

690
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: regular season and to try and avoid having to compete

691
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: with the nfl it's regular season. Are you up or

692
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Speaker 2: down on Coonan's plan to start the season in December

693
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Speaker 2: to help ratings.

694
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Speaker 4: I'm down. Are you a major sport or are you

695
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: not a major sport? You're arranging when you're going to

696
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: start around all the other schedules they're not changing, So

697
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: why is the NBA changing? Also, you don't want to

698
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Speaker 4: see NBA players in the Olympics because if you start

699
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Speaker 4: season and it ends in August, they would never play

700
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Speaker 4: in the Olympics. People vacation in the summer. Are they

701
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Speaker 4: going to be watching basketball at the playoffs during July

702
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: when they're going to Disneyland? Probably not. People go back

703
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Speaker 4: to school at the start of August, don't. I don't

704
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: think that this really solves the ratings. You're just you're

705
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Speaker 4: just doing something to do something. If you really want

706
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Speaker 4: to make the regular season matter, get rid of two

707
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Speaker 4: to four playoff teams, every game counts more.

708
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Speaker 6: I again, I'd look at this as put my dad

709
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Speaker 6: hat on, and I just think, no, this would be

710
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 6: awful because the kids are in school holidays in June July,

711
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Speaker 6: and then they go back at some time in August.

712
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Speaker 6: Then it would just make it so much harder because

713
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Speaker 6: that's when you want to go on vacation.

714
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Speaker 2: And why you're speaking of the players themselves.

715
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Speaker 6: Well, yourself, myself, myself and the players. Yeah, I mean

716
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 6: that's school holidays time. That's when you have the big

717
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 6: chunk during June and July. And yeah, I just I

718
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 6: wouldn't like it. I don't think a lot of the

719
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Speaker 6: players and coaches and staff would enjoy it either. So

720
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Speaker 6: I don't think it would be successful.

721
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Speaker 3: It would definitely piss off the players. Why wouldn't it.

722
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Speaker 3: A lot of them are dads. Oh, they want to

723
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Speaker 3: be off when they have the very very rare opportunity

724
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Speaker 3: to be with their kids. I think I think it's

725
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: pretty important for them.

726
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: Okay, whether or not they're pissed off. I mean, make

727
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars, So I think you're fine if you

728
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: want to continue to make twenty million dollars, you'll play

729
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: during the summer. But do you think Coonan's reasoning here

730
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: makes any sense? Like he is basically saying, let football

731
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Speaker 2: have its time, let's try and avoid football. That's what

732
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Speaker 2: you're saying, And.

733
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Speaker 4: Then that's what I'm saying. That's you're like, yeah, you're

734
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Speaker 4: like scared money, don't make money. That to me is like, seriously,

735
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Speaker 4: you are downgrading yourself to a second class sport. If

736
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Speaker 4: you are moving your schedule just to avoid the NFL,

737
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: take them on, take them down. You had your chance,

738
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: all the concussion, all the concussion stuff basically in the NFL,

739
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: then denying concussions and then kind of coming around on it,

740
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Speaker 4: settling the Colin Kaepernick situation. These were the times when

741
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: you could have taken down the NFL and it clearly

742
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: didn't happen. So now you're going to move away from it.

743
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Speaker 4: That just to me is that's just a soft move.

744
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: That's a soft move from a league. Are you kidding me?

745
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: How can a league be soft by being scared of

746
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: another league?

747
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

748
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And maybe ratings aren't great in July and August.

749
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: It's what Trey said earlier. People are chilling out in

750
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: the summer and may not be there out and about,

751
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: and ratings may not be great for the finals even

752
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: though there are only there's only one other sport going on,

753
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: which would be baseball.

754
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the interesting part. And look, Cunnin has experience.

755
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: You know, he ran Turner's family of networks for like

756
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: a decade before coming to the Hawks. I mean he knows.

757
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: I think he's you know, he can speak on this

758
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: idea of television ratings and stuff like that. He said, quote,

759
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: we have built the architecture of our season based on

760
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: the ad market, not based on the consumer. And he

761
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: says it's dated. And you know this, this whole idea

762
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: of when it was happening. Television launches new shows in

763
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: the fall because that's when the new models of cars

764
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: are introduced. I mean again, he's speaking from experience. The

765
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Speaker 2: reason the finals are in June is because there are

766
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: more ad dollars in the second fiscal quarter. Why it

767
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore? So he's thinking, Yeah, I mean it

768
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: could be in August, and if there's less competition, people

769
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: will still watch it and they will adapt.

770
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Speaker 4: Guess what else comes back in August the NFL. People

771
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Speaker 4: will still care about NFL preseason games.

772
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I get you. You're like, why you're

773
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: trying to avoid it and you just outclass it.

774
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. Yeah, make the product better.

775
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: What's the competition in June that they're moving to August?

776
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Well, I guess no, it's the competition is in October, November, December.

777
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: Is the competition? You got to just push it back. Yeah, Look,

778
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: we've talked about it a million times. Before we think

779
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: reducing regular season games to make them more important. You're

780
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: saying the idea of less playoff teams make them make

781
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: everything count a little bit more, that that increases interest

782
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: in possibly ratings. I'm with you on that. Just had

783
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Speaker 2: to throw this one out there, Coon, And you know

784
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: it's not people saying it was a radical plan this.

785
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: People have been saying this for like ten years.

786
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Speaker 5: It feels like it's been different.

787
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Speaker 2: Bill Simmons has definitely said this, like push on, move

788
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: the whole season, shift it. But I guess Coon's at

789
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: the Sloan Conference and he's got some experience speak on it.

790
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: You know, I made his case. Let's hear what you

791
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: guys think though, with the updown report with both of those,

792
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,400
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793
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Speaker 2: All right. I wanted to take a look at the

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864
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Speaker 2: game back after beating the Bucks last night, Jazz two back,

869
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: they're in four seed, but Thunder right on their heels,

870
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: one back at five. Then it's Rockets, Mavericks, and all

871
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: of those teams are close, and then at the eighth

872
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: seed you got the Grizzlies hanging on. My question and

873
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: the reason I went through all of that for the

874
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: listeners and for you guys, is you know what playoff

875
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: or potential I guess playoff matchup would you most want

876
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: to see? And why? Right now? It's got to be realistic.

877
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't even care if it's a first round. I

878
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: mean you can go, you can sort of look ahead

879
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: into the future if you want to. But what are

880
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: you most excited about and why?

881
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: Well, I still would love to see Rockets Thunder. I

882
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 6: think that would be a great matchup, and right now

883
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 6: it's five and six, so obviously a little bit of

884
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 6: shuffling has to happen for it to happen.

885
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: But I think I would take.

886
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 6: The Thunder the way things are going right now, I

887
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 6: think because the Rockets have been super impressive, but then

888
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 6: they hit a wall, and I just think, imagine that storyline,

889
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 6: if you know, Westbrook joins the Rockets and James Harden

890
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 6: is there, and then Chris Paul goes to the Thunder

891
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: and then the Thunder beat the Rockets in the first round.

892
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 6: That would just be wild, wild, wild stuff. But I

893
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 6: also think it would be a deep, long series. I

894
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 6: don't think obviously, I don't think there'd be a sweep there.

895
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 6: I think it'd be a.

896
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: Pretty crazy series.

897
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: There'd be a lot of smack talk in that series,

898
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 6: a lot of back and forth. I think it'd be

899
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 6: pretty explosive in the first round.

900
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: So a potential three, six or four or five is

901
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: probably really likely.

902
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 6: Well five more likely, I would get yep, But yeah,

903
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 6: that would that would be uh, that would be awesome.

904
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been holding onto this one for a while.

905
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: Thunder Rockets. Yeah, with the Thunder upsetting Houston in a

906
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: first round series. Okay, that's a good one. What do

907
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: you guys got?

908
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: I want the Denver Nuggets to stay in the third

909
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 4: seed so that we get Lakers Clippers in the conference finals.

910
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: These teams got to play each other. We gotta have

911
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: Lakers Clippers in the playoffs, and it should be in

912
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: the conference finals. There's a half game lead right now

913
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: for the Clippers over the Nuggets for the second seed.

914
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: They play each other one more time next week, so

915
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: that game will have a lot of importance on it.

916
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: But it'll come right down towards the end of the season.

917
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 4: I would imagine who's gonna finish in the number two spot.

918
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean the Clippers could easily beat

919
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: the Nuggets in the playoffs, or could certainly beat the

920
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: Nuggets in the playoffs, so we'd still probably have a chance. Yeah,

921
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 4: it's highly unlikely that the Clippers are gonna fall all

922
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: the way to four. They got a two and a

923
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: half game lead over the Jazz right now. But I

924
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 4: want to see those teams in the conference That's.

925
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 2: What we really don't want them, for them to fall

926
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: a force exactly that they would maybe play the Lakers

927
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: in a Yeah, in the second round, good one, what

928
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: you got tasks, I'd.

929
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: Take the Clippers Rockets. I'm still ah, I just want

930
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: to see I don't know, I think I think that

931
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: would be a rivalry. I just think Russ will be

932
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: angry at the Clippers. I want to see a good battle,

933
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: but with the Clippers in the first round, Yeah, yeah,

934
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm looking that that would be a bit of a

935
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's that's always on my brain as

936
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: a an angry matchup.

937
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: You still believe in the Rockets to something extent, NA,

938
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: but you want a first round Clippers Rockets like a

939
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: two seven, which is crazy, that's in play yep, which

940
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't know a week ago there

941
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: would be like that, that's not happening. That's like, Yeah,

942
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: the Mavericks are a game back of the Houston Rockets

943
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 2: used to could very very easily be the seventh seed

944
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: and play like a Clippers or Nuggets in the first round.

945
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: All right, Clippers Rockets. It's a fun one. Want to

946
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: throw that guy. Throw that question at you guys out there.

947
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 2: Hit us up on Twitter at no dunk Sink. What's

948
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: one potential playoff matchup you want to see? And why

949
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: everybody sticking in the Western coffe not excited about the East?

950
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 5: Eh?

951
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 6: I would like to say Celtic sixes in the first round.

952
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: Two Okay, that'd be pretty fun. Not as fun as

953
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 6: rockets thunder.

954
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: But finally fair enough, let's get to tweeted the night.

955
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: Tweet out the night. Wow. This refers to something we've

956
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 3: talked about a few times here on No Dunks this season.

957
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: It's a tweet from Innocence Project. It's about a man

958
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: who was freed from prison. Paul Hilman was freed today

959
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: after thirty five years in prison, twenty nine on death

960
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: row in Florida. And there's a video of him doing

961
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: what he wanted to do most. He said he was

962
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: most looking forward to feeling grass under his bare feet

963
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: for the first time in decades. So there's video of

964
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: him doing exactly that, just going out there, no socks on,

965
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: feeling the grass between his toes like we've talked about

966
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: when we talked about wearing those slides that have artificial.

967
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: Tresh it's not the same moment, No.

968
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: It's definitely not the same. Although JD has said that

969
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: he doesn't like the feeling or like the idea of

970
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: grass under your feet because it feels gross, worried about worms.

971
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 7: Worried about well, it's overrated. I think the feeling of

972
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 7: it a be too many things to step on, you know,

973
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 7: And there's dirt and gross stuff under there. So yeah,

974
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 7: I'm not into it.

975
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: Would you rather step on the beach or step on

976
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: the ground.

977
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 7: Oh, the beach for sure. And yes, I understand the

978
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 7: hypocrisy of what I just said because it's literally dirt

979
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 7: and sand and rocks and cigarette butts and broken glass.

980
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 7: But I'm willing to take the risk for the beach.

981
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: And I mean the problem with the beach though, or

982
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: like you know, a strike against it. It's too hot.

983
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: It can be too hot.

984
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 7: It can be too hot.

985
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: That's true.

986
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: That's true.

987
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 7: That's where you get those grass slides so you can

988
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: walk in.

989
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, No, thank you.

990
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: Anything on a beachything like a flip flop or shoe,

991
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: it's the worst.

992
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, you gotta be barefoot. You just feel like up,

993
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 7: I guess.

994
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: I feel like you're forgetting how to walk, you know,

995
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: It's true, Like you're just it's like an every step

996
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: is an adventure. You don't know which way your foot's

997
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: gonna go, you know.

998
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you look like a bit of a

999
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: toddler at times. Try and figure find your footing. Do

1000
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: you like running on the beach.

1001
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: Skeets, No, it's good for you. I mean it's obviously

1002
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: a hell of a workout because you're working some new

1003
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: muscles when you're running on me. Yeah, but no, I

1004
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: do not like it.

1005
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: I do not like it.

1006
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: And and because I want to be close to the water.

1007
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: And then when you're you're generally close to the water,

1008
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: you're running on a bit of a like an angle slant,

1009
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: and that's not good.

1010
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it does look cool when you're running really

1011
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 4: fast and you're shooting like the little sprays behind it.

1012
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: Trust me as a fast running guy.

1013
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 3: I know, especially because everyone else is standing, no one's

1014
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: really moving on so you look super fast. Everybody looks

1015
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: super right.

1016
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Even if you're just like doing a pretty slow jog.

1017
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look you're moving faster than everybody else. That

1018
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: let's get a pole going on the debate whether or

1019
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: not it feels better to walk on grass barefoot or

1020
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: sand barefoot, because I'm a grass man, I am definitely

1021
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: willing to take the risks of a potential shard of

1022
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: glass or a bug, because I think beach beach walk

1023
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 3: is far more dangerous. It's more dangerous, and it doesn't

1024
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 3: feel as good. And then you gotta there's a post

1025
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: wash needed while on grass maybe just a quick rub.

1026
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 7: There's also don't forget about dog poop. There's way more

1027
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 7: chance of stepping in dog poop on grarass. It's hidden.

1028
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like mud happen.

1029
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I've done it more than once,

1030
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 7: bare feet squishing into a dog poop.

1031
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: Gross.

1032
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: That's a strike. That's a strike against grass for making

1033
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: the list.

1034
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 4: Two choices, sand slash, beach and the grass. I don't

1035
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 4: want people to think it's a rock beach.

1036
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: Well that's the that is definitely a worry when it

1037
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: comes to the beach. Yeah, there's lots of rock, more

1038
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: rocks than grass.

1039
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 7: You step on a pebble on the beach, it was

1040
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 7: just a stray pebble. It's sinking into the sand, so

1041
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 7: it's not as brutal as as as on grass. It

1042
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 7: was hard, you know, ground underneath it.

1043
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1044
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, but there's a lot of

1045
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: rocks out there.

1046
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: I meant to compliment you, as I forgot to.

1047
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're saying. Thanks.

1048
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: Uh, your grass was looking good over the weekends in winter,

1049
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: looking bad green that front on, Yeah, so when will

1050
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: you cut it? It?

1051
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: Should be cut soon. They should be cut all winter.

1052
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: This freaking weather down here, it's always growing down here.

1053
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: It was looking good man, Well it's crazy. If you

1054
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: see the back to the front, it's a different type

1055
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: of blades. So the did you notice the grass in

1056
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: the back it's brown?

1057
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't. I wasn't a fan of it.

1058
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: Brown. It's brown. It's a different grass. It's zoyja zeuja.

1059
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: What you got in the front bermuda.

1060
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: FISKI used to have. Bermuda doesn't work as well in shade.

1061
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 3: Oh good, I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, it's tough

1062
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: and tough with trees to really get it going.

1063
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: Picking results, picking results from a last night in the Association.

1064
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: It was the Raptors Jazz game. Utah was favored by

1065
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: four and a half at home. They lost. Raptors hit

1066
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: the money line, Lee, you and I got that one wrong.

1067
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: So we got a little race here going early in March.

1068
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: Trey improves to three and two, Task gets it back

1069
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: to two and three, and Lee and I fall to

1070
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: two and three. So we're all bunched up here. What's

1071
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: tonight's game? There's like nine games on again tonight.

1072
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm going with an Eastern Conference battle, which

1073
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: could be a first round matchup the Boston Celtics visiting

1074
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers. The Pacers have jumped up to the

1075
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: fifth seat because they're eight and two over the last ten,

1076
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: four and one on the road trip they're coming home from.

1077
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: And the Celtics have dropped off a little bit as

1078
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: they've fallen away from the Raptors in the three seed.

1079
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: They've just lost to the Jazz and Thunder consecutively. That

1080
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 3: really really tight game against Okay. See, they've been banged up,

1081
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 3: so it's a tight line.

1082
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure the Celtics are without a few guys again,

1083
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: bron did not playing again for the Pacers.

1084
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: Celtics minus two and a half at Indiana.

1085
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: I'll take Boston on the road. They're five and er

1086
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: against the spread in the last five road games, and

1087
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: Pacers have not been great against the spread versus good

1088
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: teams coming into their barn. But that's a tough one.

1089
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: I'll take Boston. I've been horrible lately though.

1090
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going the Celtics, so I think it's a

1091
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 6: bit of a bounce back game. A couple of bad

1092
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 6: home losses. They're only without Jaylen Burrown, I believe. Yeah,

1093
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 6: I think Gordon Haywood's.

1094
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: Back m is there.

1095
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Boston too. I'm gonna give it, give

1096
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: you the last option trade.

1097
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: Oh, that's one's for all the being town boys out there.

1098
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 4: We're all going Celtics. WHOA, my friends hast told me

1099
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: you never liked the home game after a.

1100
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: Long road trip.

1101
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: I'm not into that. It's definitely why I'm picking away

1102
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: from them.

1103
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: We uh, grass is just wilting at their homes.

1104
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a first game we've all been on

1105
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: the same side for in a long long time. Everybody

1106
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: taking the Celtics to win by more than three points.

1107
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: This one's for you, Jeeves.

1108
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Bean town boy. All right, guys,

1109
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: make sure to check out the other great podcast on

1110
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Network, Count the Digs back to Back Hoops

1111
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: ad jacent so anymore and uh, it's a back to

1112
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: back Jacks type of day here in the Dodunk's office.

1113
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a who wants some trivia dropping a

1114
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: little bit later. It's been a hot minute since we've

1115
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: done one of those, so we'll have some some new

1116
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: trivia fun for you. Keep your eyes and ears out

1117
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: for that podcast tomorrow. As I said, we'll have the

1118
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: daily show and then step in on the beach. So

1119
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: back to back, back to back. Jacks Clipper Bros.

1120
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1121
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: Love you guys, awesome.

1122
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. I remember we've got a poll

1123
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: on Twitter. Early results. Yeah, what do you guys think

1124
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: is leading the way?

1125
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: Beach grass beach because we always, you know, we go

1126
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: beach step into. People are gonna be swaying by that.

1127
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: Oh know your audience. Who is conducting the pole? Yep,

1128
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: you're right. Oh and it's it's jumping as I speak.

1129
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I'm gonna guess literally eighty twenty right.

1130
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: Now that it's about sixty forty. Beach over grass.

1131
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: Raise the day people, beach over grass. There's wall made

1132
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: of grass.

1133
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: Let's go get some grass.

1134
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: It's been so long with your fanna, It's happened already.

1135
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be grevy