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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema, I am coming to you

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Speaker 1: from our new office at Merritt Street Media, which hopefully

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Speaker 1: you guys have found out about in prior podcasts and

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Speaker 1: all the press that has dropped. LZ is at the

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Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. We are separated, but we

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Speaker 1: are together in this podcast. But we are together because

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Speaker 1: of the subject matter and our guests today, because we're

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Speaker 1: talking Real house Wives of Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 2: LZ.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you know you are now a Housewives fan,

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Speaker 3: or at least you're about as much of a fan

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Speaker 3: as I could get you to be.

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Speaker 4: You watched about.

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Speaker 3: Half the season of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City

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Speaker 3: and then you tuned back in for like the reunion.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy with that. That's as much as I was.

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Speaker 1: Going to get.

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Speaker 3: And you thought that this was some of the best

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Speaker 3: reality TV you'd seen in a minute.

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Speaker 4: And I think.

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Speaker 3: That it is largely in part two, if not all,

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Speaker 3: in part thanks to our guest today, the woman who

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Speaker 3: some would call her a villain, now some would say

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Speaker 3: she saved this franchise. Monica Garcia is joining us She

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Speaker 3: came on the most recent season of Salt Lake City

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Speaker 3: as the former assistant of former cast.

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Speaker 4: Member Jen Shaw.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know the cliffs notes is, you've probably

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Speaker 3: seen the headlines that Real Housewives of Salt Lake City

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Speaker 3: member Jen Shaw was convicted of fraud of elder people.

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Speaker 3: She is now doing a time behind bars, and Monica

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Speaker 3: came on as her former assistant. That's how she was introduced.

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Speaker 3: She bonded with the women, and then, in like one

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Speaker 3: of the biggest finales in housewives history that made headlines everywhere,

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Speaker 3: it was revealed that in the past, Monica had also

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Speaker 3: been part of or the other women accused her of

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Speaker 3: being all of a housewif lives news coverage, gossip account,

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna ask Monica about it all.

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Speaker 1: There she is, there, she is.

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Speaker 4: Monica.

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Speaker 5: I'm dying right now, you guys, I am dying. This

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Speaker 5: is such a surreal moment for me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. This is so crazy.

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Speaker 1: Wait, why is this a surreal moment for you? Because

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Speaker 1: I was about to say the same thing.

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Speaker 5: No, I have watched you my entire life, and so

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Speaker 5: sitting here with you now is like I literally I

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Speaker 5: don't have words. It's honestly, completely surreal. I can't even

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Speaker 5: believe this, I really can't.

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Speaker 1: The feeling is mutual because I can't. I can't say

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Speaker 1: I've watched you my entire life because you just you

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Speaker 1: just made me very old. That's the sad part. You

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Speaker 1: have probably watched me your entire life. But no one's

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Speaker 1: Lauren's ema. She's a real fan. She's like a legit

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Speaker 1: fan of the Housewives and knows it. She could write

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Speaker 1: the Bible. I have never watched The Housewives, never ever

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Speaker 1: have watched an episode, except she said, you have to

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Speaker 1: watch Salt Lake City. Oh my god, Monica, I've never

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Speaker 1: felt anything like it. From the get go, the cold open,

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Speaker 1: the teaser for the entire season. I literally I had

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Speaker 1: her posit and I said, I'm in. I am so in,

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Speaker 1: so now I am. Actually, I can't say I'm a

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Speaker 1: Housewives fan. I'm only a Salt Lake City fan. Actually,

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Speaker 1: it's the only it's the only season I watched, so

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. We absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: I love you guys so much. You have no idea.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Monica, thank you for being here. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: he's coming to you.

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Speaker 3: We're usually together, but he like had another interview today

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Speaker 3: and postponed it.

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Speaker 2: To talk to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm not joking.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have commandeered this conference room here

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Speaker 1: in dalla Us. Lauren is coming to you from our

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: So we have to talk about Salt Lake City because

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Speaker 1: just let's do a thirty thousand foot overview. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: is my opinion, And again I don't necessarily watch them all,

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Speaker 1: but I understand them all. Is Salt Lake City? I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's Housewives on steroids. Why is this show

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Speaker 1: with this group of women just so spectacular?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, you know, I'm going to be completely honest.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like it was so spectacular until this

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's because.

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Speaker 5: I genuinely feel like season four was just absolute, like genius.

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Speaker 5: I mean, even production, the way they decided to even

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Speaker 5: and I feel like that's rare. Honestly, I feel like

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Speaker 5: that's rare. Nowadays even in reality television, and so viewers

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Speaker 5: were getting real reality television and it was just like.

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Speaker 2: Holy crap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and Laurena and I are both steeped in

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Speaker 1: reality TV, and I will say there's something, there's some

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Speaker 1: validity to what you're saying, and it's I don't want

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Speaker 1: to you know, poo poo on anybody else in other seasons,

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Speaker 1: but I will say there is a there is a

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Speaker 1: lightning in the bottle mentality in a situation in reality

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Speaker 1: TV that you can do the best producing in the world.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it just doesn't pan out. Sometimes it comes to

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Speaker 1: harness that and make a great season. And clearly that's

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Speaker 1: what happened in season four.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they did incredible.

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Speaker 5: Everyone was amazing and how they spun it was so

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Speaker 5: great and it worked. It just honestly, it just worked

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Speaker 5: and it was wonderful. Can you talk about that.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting to watch with Chris Monica because it's behind

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Speaker 3: him to say that producers came up with that idea,

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Speaker 3: and he's very skeptical watching reality TV. So it's interesting

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Speaker 3: to me to hear you say that, it was like

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Speaker 4: Do you expand on that? Like, what do you think

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Speaker 5: So I went in there and I said, the only

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Speaker 5: because I feel like so many people that do reality

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Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff that that people relate to,

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Speaker 5: And I think when you have somebody that comes on

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Speaker 5: it just all tied together to make this explosion, you know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what made me so captivated by you from

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Speaker 3: the beginning was that you were you were like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had an affair, I did this, I did this.

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Speaker 3: You just laid out your truth and I thought this

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Speaker 3: is the most brilliant debut we've ever seen from anyone

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Speaker 3: who's ever joined Real Housewives, because you didn't let anybody

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Speaker 3: else search for the skeletons. It seems like you just

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Speaker 3: you opened up the closet and said here they are. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: To say the least.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, one of the questions I wanted

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Speaker 3: Basically Monica and Real Housewives of sulis that he delivered

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Speaker 3: like the best finale, the most captivating finale in housewives history.

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Speaker 3: I would say it was created you reveal the Instagram

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's really simple. I didn't reveal it because

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Speaker 5: it wasn't just me. Everything that I did reveal, I'm

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Speaker 5: the one that had the affair. I'm the one that

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Speaker 5: had had a car repossessed. I'm the one that went

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Speaker 5: through a divorce. I'm the one that went through domestic violence.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's all these different things that were just

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Speaker 5: involving me. This account involved five other people, and we

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Speaker 5: So how do I explain this when there's five other

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Speaker 5: even make sense because there were things posted or names created.

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Speaker 2: The account wasn't even mine in my name.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there were just so many other parts that

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Speaker 5: I just felt like, Okay, well, we promised each other

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Speaker 5: If it was just me, I would have come out

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Speaker 5: and said it, But it affected multiple other people's lives

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Speaker 5: that I had promised I wouldn't ever discuss.

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Speaker 1: Now, Look, I'm gonna admit right now to everybody, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Monica defender, So I'm just gonna I'm not unbiased

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Speaker 1: here as I enter into this next question. Let the jury.

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Speaker 1: Let the jury know what I found interesting at the

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Speaker 1: were clutching their pearls about how upset they were that

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Speaker 1: some sanctity of housewivedom was broken with you coming on

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Speaker 1: and I discussed this. I go, yeah, they're all fans

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Speaker 1: all fans of this. There is no naivete. So it

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Speaker 1: on oh, well, she was a fan, Like what, you

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Speaker 1: didn't earn your stripes or somehow you didn't belong. That

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Speaker 1: seems silly to me. That argument seemed weird.

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Speaker 5: It was It was, honestly just these women. Just anything

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Speaker 5: I did I could sneeze wrong and it would bother them.

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Speaker 2: It didn't matter.

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Speaker 5: I could have I could have come on as someone

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Speaker 5: I just think it was deeper rooted than that, and

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Speaker 5: they just picked up everything. Heather Gay herself has come

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Speaker 5: out several times throughout the years and said she is

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Speaker 5: the biggest Housewives fan. So it's okay for her to

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Speaker 5: say that, but it's not okay for me to have

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Speaker 5: been a fan.

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Speaker 2: It's just that Boss is out of control.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you were always the outlier? I mean again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of everything, but I think

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Speaker 1: Laurence kind of filled me in that you don't fit

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Speaker 1: that prototype, right, You're not the prototypical housewife without all

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Speaker 1: the things you've been through. You even said throughout the

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Speaker 1: season that I watched, I don't have the money that

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Speaker 1: all of you have. I'm not carrying the bags. I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing you know, I'm taking care of my kids

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Speaker 1: with my mom. By the way, love the stuff with

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Speaker 1: your mom. We're going to get into that in a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But do you think you were always the

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Speaker 1: outlier from the beginning, and I'm wondering how they approached

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Speaker 2: Of that, Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I think there was always this mentality of she doesn't really.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: The only person that I really screwed over and oaths

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Speaker 5: So for them to be like, oh, you lied to us,

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Speaker 5: I would one hundred percent argue that was not the case.

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Speaker 5: from like other Burner pages, And that page was one

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Speaker 1: But she went to jail for yes, exactly, didn't.

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Speaker 2: Go to jail. He went to prison. There's a difference.

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Speaker 1: There is a difference. You're right, you're right, you're right,

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Speaker 1: and did you regret? You know, because if you know

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Speaker 1: did you ever think? Man, I don't know if these

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Speaker 2: Oh hell no.

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Speaker 5: I was like it made me want to go on.

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Speaker 5: It was like, oh you don't want me there, I'm coming.

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Speaker 3: I love Monica right here, well I mean truly Monica,

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Speaker 3: Like again, you're great TV. Like I've seen you there's

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Speaker 3: There have been other women who have come on the show,

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Speaker 4: But I do wonder like, looking back, now, do you

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: No, no, because I know for a fact if I had,

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Speaker 5: it wouldn't have changed one damn thing.

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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 5: I could have said it the first day. I could

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Speaker 2: They act like, oh, if you came to us and

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Speaker 5: You know if I told you the first day or

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Speaker 2: The same outcome.

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Speaker 1: They were gunning for you no matter what.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it would have had the same result. It

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Speaker 4: So and what an outcome it was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, out.

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Speaker 3: With the bank, and I'm gonna like kind of put

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Speaker 3: on my Chris Harrison hat and quote him.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay.

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Speaker 3: And we were because I don't know if you remembers this,

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Speaker 4: Finale and then the reunion, he was like, these producers knew.

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Speaker 4: Am I taking the words out of your mouth?

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Speaker 2: Baby?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, She's right, I said, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: They knew, Yeah, that Monica had been a part of this.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's A They're not that dumb, and B they are

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Speaker 1: known that. For sure? They knew? Can you confirm that?

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to be a hundred percent honest.

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Speaker 5: I told production, but I did not tell the same

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Speaker 1: Yes, No, You're like, oh, they they forgot yes, that

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Speaker 3: Four when he said on the reunion, we would have

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Speaker 5: Known that, I.

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Speaker 4: Again, like I would guess you.

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Speaker 5: If Yeah, I know for a fact other housewives have

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Speaker 5: burner accounts, or they're feeding blogs information that they want leaked,

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Speaker 2: What I did is nothing new.

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Speaker 5: It's what's new is I owned it, and I owned

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Speaker 5: up to it, and I admitted it, and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I did have a part in that, whereas other people

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Speaker 5: they can deny, deny, deny, and so it just it

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Speaker 2: Get burned at the stakes. Yeah, yeah, isn't Heather.

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Speaker 4: So Heather was.

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Speaker 3: Got this information from her hairdresser, who was your friend

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Speaker 3: Heather is still friends with and getting her haircut by

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Speaker 5: So Tanisia actually doesn't cut hair. All she does is style.

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Speaker 2: But I know that Heather.

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Speaker 5: Is still good with Tanisha as far as her doing

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Speaker 5: even freaking care, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: she and I.

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Speaker 2: Were involved in the same exact thing.

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Speaker 5: One of us was given a complete pass and one

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Speaker 4: And that's why I asked, because it's like this double standard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just I find it funny because Heather

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Speaker 5: big reveal. She knew that, she knew, she knew, she knew,

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Speaker 5: she knew, And I knew that it was going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed the scapegoat, they needed the villain, and

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Speaker 1: you were it. Yeah, why are you not back and

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Speaker 1: so far? Or are you?

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Speaker 2: They refused to film with me? No, I'm really not back.

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Speaker 1: You're really not back.

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Speaker 2: I'm really not.

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Speaker 1: I would have lost money on that because you are

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Speaker 1: too good of TV. There's two by the way, There's

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Speaker 1: so much more story here that we need out of this. No,

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Speaker 1: and so the women banded together and said, we're not

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Speaker 1: We refuse to tape with Monica. Yeah, And the print

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Speaker 1: is that that's what the producers told you of why

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Speaker 5: They just said there's not been enough time for the

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Speaker 5: and said, I refuse, I will never film with Monica again.

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Speaker 5: She has said that publicly. Lisa Barlow has said that publicly,

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Speaker 5: these are not secrets. It doesn't even need to come

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Speaker 1: By the way, time for everyone to heal from the

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Speaker 1: fact that you had a burner account on Instagram? Is

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Speaker 1: that where we're healing from.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you.

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Speaker 5: Literally got socked in the face, but you're upset about

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Speaker 5: a burner account, like it's wild.

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Speaker 2: It's so wild to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, Elsie, do you agree?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Don't you think there's so much more juice in the story.

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Speaker 2: That we need.

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Speaker 3: Look, I will you know I I'm not like black

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Speaker 3: I like. I like Heather, I like Lisa, And when

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Speaker 3: why I'm like, I would have just leaned into it

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Speaker 3: if you know, if I were them, I would think, well,

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Speaker 3: if we keep going on this Monica thing, then none

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Speaker 3: of us have to big reveals.

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Speaker 1: In Houston exactly exactly.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I feel like somehow so I get it where

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Speaker 5: they're like, this is what's good for this show, and

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Speaker 5: if we want a successful show, we want to keep

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Speaker 2: They should have people wanted to see.

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Speaker 5: You know, the fallout from that finale. Not to mention

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Speaker 5: Heather and I are still suing each other in real life.

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Speaker 5: That alone is a crazy storyline. So I really was

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Speaker 5: shocked that they did decide not to have me come back.

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Speaker 5: But I just you know, when you have people that

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Speaker 5: are like, we won't film with her, what am I

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Speaker 5: going to do film by myself?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well you, hey, you and your mom should go

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Speaker 1: do a show. I think people will. People will watch

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Speaker 1: you and your mom.

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Speaker 3: During all that Monica I was just like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: I feel for this woman, Like I, where are you

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Speaker 3: and your mom at right now?

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Speaker 2: We are done? Done, done?

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Speaker 1: Oh y'all are speaking.

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Speaker 2: I will never talk to her again.

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't don't say that. Don't say never.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm so serious. I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Don't have to start to your mom again.

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Speaker 2: I disagree with Yeah, my mother.

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Speaker 5: that's gone. And she took it because she was pissed

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Speaker 5: very ugly. The police were called and got involved. I

444
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 5: called them, and unfortunately she burched into the house and

445
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: did her whole thing. And it happened in front of

446
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: my children, and my youngest daughter was like, why are

447
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 5: you taking our car? How are we going to get

448
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 5: to school? And I'm like, I'm done, I'm done. This

449
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 5: is we are done. And then her behavior on Twitter

450
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 5: has been absolutely disgusting and so there's there's nothing to salvage. Yeah, well,

451
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 5: you know, everyone thought that was fake and I know

452
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: that even the women have been like they both deserve it,

453
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 5: Emmy and I'm like, no, that's real life.

454
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: I know you're not.

455
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 5: Used to like showing that, but that was my real

456
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 5: life and my relationship with my mother is completely torched.

457
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, that's that's not a good thing. I'm

458
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: very sorry, and especially when the kids are involved like that.

459
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was awful.

460
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see more of what you would

461
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: bring to television because you are captivating to watch.

462
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 4: You're funny.

463
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: Is there anything though that you wish you had done differently?

464
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 3: Like sometimes the women say you were like going you

465
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 3: were like a little too mean in the arguments, and

466
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: I could see where they were coming from on some

467
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: of that.

468
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 4: Or do you stand by.

469
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: All a little too mean?

470
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: No?

471
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 5: You No, I completely disagree.

472
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 2: I think that.

473
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 5: I mean everyone's like you called Lisa ugly. I'm like,

474
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 5: she literally called me a Pillsbury dough girl, Like is

475
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 5: that not mean? So I'm like chubby and roie So

476
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 5: she can say that, I can't say you're leather and rubbery,

477
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 5: Like where are we.

478
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: Drawing the line? You know what I mean? I think?

479
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 5: Also, the Pioneer dinner was nuts because I was made

480
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 5: to look like a psycho. But you literally have someone

481
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 5: standing up screaming and throwing a glass in a restaurant.

482
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 5: But that's okay, you know, a price ski I was

483
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 5: also made to look like the psychopath, but Angie literally.

484
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: Grabbed food off my plate and put it in my mouth.

485
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just wild to see, Like, do you

486
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 5: wish you would have done anything different?

487
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: Like, look what I was dealing with.

488
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: No, No, that's a lot. You were dealing with a lot.

489
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious as you're talking about this, you're

490
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: not on the show anymore. Yeah, excommunicated from the church,

491
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: you're clearly divorced from your mom. Yeah, what's next for you?

492
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: Because again, as we were just saying, there is more story,

493
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: there's more life to live, but now just in the

494
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: real world, what is next for Monica?

495
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, honestly, I really have no idea.

496
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 5: I think right now I'm trying to just stay busy.

497
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 5: The fans are insane. They have been absolutely incredible. The

498
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: support has been mind blowing. I know that, you know,

499
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 5: even people from production and the network have been like,

500
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 5: it's been a minute since we've had a first year housewife,

501
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 5: cause this much of an uproar from fans, and I'm

502
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 5: so grateful for them. So I've just been trying to

503
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: get out and do appearances and see them and it's

504
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: so good for me and they're amazing.

505
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: But you know, maybe start dating and I don't know.

506
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

507
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, are you open? Are you open

508
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: to finding love? Is it? I mean it's yes. It

509
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: seems like you're in a good spot for that.

510
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely open to that for sure. I want

511
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 5: my bat girls to see that a good relationship.

512
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: A lot of people are dreamcasting you on the next

513
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: season of The Traders.

514
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: They want to see that. Has there been any doing so.

515
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, that would be so fun.

516
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: That would be so I do feel like I get

517
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: voted off like the first eliminated. They'd be like, he's

518
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: the Trader.

519
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know the inner workings of Bravo and

520
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: what Andy has control of over there, but I don't

521
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: think we're done with you. I don't think we've seen

522
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: the last of you.

523
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, Chris, just.

524
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: Knowing television again, we all liked as producers, we'd like

525
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: to take our stands and get on our moral high box.

526
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: But when you see ratings and you see a storyline,

527
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: it is so hard to walk away from that. And

528
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think they're going

529
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: to see, wow, we really left some fruit on the

530
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: tree there, and as a producer, you don't want to

531
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: do that. So I don't think we've seen the last

532
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: of you.

533
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see. I mean, I agree with

534
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: you one hundred percent. I was stocked. I think everyone

535
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: was stocked. They're like, how what the hell, like, how

536
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: could they do that? But yeah, we'll see. I don't know.

537
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: I really I don't know.

538
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: Well on that, Nomonica.

539
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: I do have two questions about Like one, I have

540
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: to ask you about the red because again there were

541
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: some people saying, well, like if like you at the reunion,

542
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: you seemed like you shut down, like you were like

543
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: had put a little bit of a wall up, and

544
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: tell me about why that was. And also do you

545
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: look back, like do you think you could have done

546
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: anything differently that would have changed you winding back up

547
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: on the show.

548
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I one hundred percent shut down.

549
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 5: I think what people don't understand is there's so much

550
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 5: adrenaline and anxiety and pressure and stress leading up to

551
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 5: the reunion and then it is the longest day it

552
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 5: is such a long day from the second you start

553
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: glam to the second you're done. I mean it was

554
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 5: like a fifteen hour day. And I had sat up

555
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: on that stage completely alone, with not a soul, by

556
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 5: me taking hit after a hit, after a hit after

557
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 5: a hit, and you know, by our ten which would

558
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 5: have been part three, like I'm I'm done, I'm done. Okay,

559
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 5: you're yeah, They're like okay, whatever you say, Okay, you're right, whatever,

560
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 5: do you.

561
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: Have anything to say?

562
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 5: No? I mean, here's the thing. I went into their

563
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 5: knowing also the outcome. So I could have gone in

564
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 5: there on my hands and knees, kissing their feet, and

565
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: they still would have wanted the same result, which was

566
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 5: me off the show.

567
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: You were the punching bag that day.

568
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was no apology great enough that I could

569
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 5: have made to these women, and they said it. Andy

570
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 5: Cohen asked, you know, was there anything Monica could have said? Nope, nope, nope.

571
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: And I knew that.

572
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: You made the choice to be you and to say

573
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 4: like stay true to yourself and you know, not grovel

574
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: if it you didn't feel like it was worth anything.

575
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think too, what was hard? Is

576
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 5: I I was I was blindsided. If I'm being completely honest,

577
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: I knew that they were going to play recordings, but

578
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: I I did not know that my best friend gave

579
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: them every effing recording I had ever sent her in

580
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: my life, you know, a rant on a random Tuesday

581
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: venting to my best friend. I had no idea they

582
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 5: were going to play that. So that happened in the

583
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: first ten minutes. I mean it was right out the gate.

584
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: They were like hipples on a leash, and the second

585
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 5: they were released, I mean it was a thirteen hour

586
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: blood bath.

587
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm guessing if the producers did their job,

588
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: they prepped the other women.

589
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they knew.

590
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: They were prepped, and they had already been given the tape.

591
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: You were probably like even almost like a little tense,

592
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: like well, what else is going to happen?

593
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 4: Like you were kind of in fighted, like.

594
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and then when I went to show the

595
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 5: burn book that the way that that was shut down

596
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 5: or not shown was really frustrating because I had to

597
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: sit there and listen to recordings of myself, but I

598
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 5: wasn't given an inch to talk about any of the

599
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: stuff that I had do you know what, I mean,

600
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 5: and I'm not blaming Andy Cohen. I'm not because he

601
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 5: did give me multiple times that I could have said something.

602
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: But there were a couple different times where I even

603
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: tried to start apologizing and I was immediately cut off.

604
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: So I mean, it was just like, what are we

605
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: doing here?

606
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you know the deck is stacked against you,

607
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: it's a yeah. You definitely get that feeling of what's

608
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: the point and you kind of shut down.

609
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: Now that you have, you.

610
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: Know, other platforms, Is there anything you want to clear

611
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: up any misconceptions or things edited wrong or portrayed wrong

612
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: from your opinion from the season.

613
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, girl, we don't have enough time.

614
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 5: Like, honestly, really and truly, I do think that the

615
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 5: biggest thing I am owning that I made mistakes. I

616
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 5: am not saying that what I did was right. I

617
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 5: got really caught up in my anger and discussed in

618
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 5: what Genshaw was doing that I did take things too

619
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: far and you know, did these little drive buys and

620
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 5: you know whatever.

621
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done that.

622
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: But I do think too that, like, let's be honest,

623
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: you are sitting with me, who made a mistake, and

624
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: you're sitting with Heather who made a huge mistake, So

625
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 5: why are we only forgiving one of us?

626
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: I just I did feel like that was that was

627
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: really shitty.

628
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 5: I think, you know, lying to the officers, lying to lawyers, investigators,

629
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: a network production is kind of more severe.

630
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: But I guess I'm wrong.

631
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: The black Eye is such a good point, Like it's

632
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: such a good point. The Jenshaw literally punched another cast

633
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: member in the face.

634
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: All So, I mean, do you think there's because, like

635
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: Chris just said, Monica, you know, I am sitting there

636
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: with twenty years of reality TV experience. He's thinking, get

637
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: her back on the network, and we want to see

638
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 3: more of this great TV you bring? Is there any inroad? Like,

639
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: of all the cast members, which of them do you

640
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: think you could come.

641
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: Back in with?

642
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: If at all?

643
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: I actually really feel you know, Mary Cosby and I

644
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 5: are great. She's amazing, She's been so supportive and wonderful

645
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: to me. Meredith and I think Meredith is actually really

646
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: smart and she is a business woman. I think she

647
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: would be open to, you know, allowing me to come back.

648
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: She and I also didn't have any like crazy major beef.

649
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: And then you know, Whitney and I really didn't have

650
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: any issues. I think those would be the only ones.

651
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if like the cast would have to

652
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: change for me to come back, because you have literally

653
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 5: it's like the reunion that couch refuses the film with me,

654
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: you know, So I don't know how how you make

655
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: that work.

656
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I also didn't think that

657
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: women were allowed to do that on these shows.

658
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: That's the thing I'm shocked to hear that they have

659
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: that much power that they would determine who the cast

660
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: is because they're not gonna because I'll be honest, they're

661
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: not going to determine what the best television is. They're

662
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: going they're going to assume that they're interesting enough and

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Speaker 1: people just want to know what they're doing. And that's

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Speaker 1: not good television. What's good TV is what we just watched,

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Speaker 1: and that is conflict and drama and the good, the bad,

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Speaker 1: the ugly. So if you're just casting your own show,

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Speaker 1: you're going to play it very safe. You're never going

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Speaker 1: to do you would never ever.

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Speaker 5: Let any new women in that. I think if you

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Speaker 5: had their say, it would just be them and that's

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Speaker 5: it till the end of time. And so yeah, one

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Speaker 5: hundred percent agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I did. I mean, everyone was like, there's no way

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Speaker 2: and they got what they wanted. They did.

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Speaker 1: Okay, before we let you go, can we go? Yeah, LZ,

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Speaker 1: do I have to ask? I know, I know you

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Speaker 1: weren't in the van. But there was a scene in

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Speaker 1: Palm Springs. Oh he's going way I'm going way back.

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Speaker 1: I'm going way way back.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Can we ask about this or should we just skip it?

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Speaker 2: Ask me whatever you want. I'm here, I'm loving it.

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Speaker 5: Ask me whatever you want the scene.

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Speaker 1: But was it Whitney, Who was it that got so drunk?

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Speaker 1: Who was it Heather?

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Speaker 2: Heather?

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Speaker 4: When Heather was so drunk in the van towards the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the season, did she pee puke or both?

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm going to tell you that I was not

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Speaker 5: in the van when that happened, but I was told

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Speaker 5: that it was both.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because Lauren and I replayed it several times. I go,

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Speaker 1: that's not puke. I think she's literally peeing her pants.

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Speaker 1: I think she's being in the van.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I think it's funny because Heather went and did this

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Speaker 5: interview where she said Monica shit on the show she

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Speaker 5: shit on you know this, she hit on that, and

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Speaker 5: she didn't you know, housewives is a caliber and I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 5: literally pissed yourself and threw up on national. You have

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Speaker 5: bigger issues to worry about.

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Speaker 1: Than me, Like come on, no, oh, Monica, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what will become of you. But again I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say, I think we have not seen the last

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Speaker 1: of you. And I was really happy to hear you

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Speaker 1: were coming on the most dramatic podcast ever because Louren

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Speaker 1: and I desperately wanted to talk and get your side

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Speaker 1: of the story. So truly appreciate your time.

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Speaker 5: I'm so grateful you guys, Thank you so much. This

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Speaker 5: has been just check Bok off the list. This is

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Speaker 5: just incredible, So thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, and again we want to see you on

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Speaker 3: TV again, so wherever it is, know that we will

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Speaker 3: be tuning in.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, min.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you guys. Have a good day.

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