Speaker 1: Look Mayer, Oh, I see you, my own Bowen. Look
Speaker 1: over there is that culture. Yes, lost.
Speaker 2: Dig lost, cochas calling. I need to hear all.
Speaker 1: About my girl's weekend.
Speaker 2: Let's just say Coachella Weekend one has ceased. I was there,
Speaker 2: Oh Bowen, So Bowen and I are gonna We're gonna
Speaker 2: have an herbal refreshment while we talk about Coachella.
Speaker 1: We were both exhausted.
Speaker 2: It's smoke our, It's smoke our today on coach I
Speaker 2: just walked in from I think one of the best
Speaker 2: weekends of my life.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear. The only thing that was
Speaker 1: missing was my sister. Shut up.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not even kidding. You would have loved this
Speaker 2: so much. I don't know why I thought on the
Speaker 2: outset that like, for some reason I thought this year
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna give. Every single day was from the second
Speaker 2: you got there to the second you left saturated with
Speaker 2: just the best vibes.
Speaker 1: Ever activity spectacle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean especially even just yesterday. We walk in
Speaker 2: like we saw your girl's flow. Oh my god, flow.
Speaker 2: They gave everything they have. This song called There's a
Speaker 2: reason why I walk like this. That's just about They're
Speaker 2: this R and B pop group y'all that kind of
Speaker 2: throw back to, you know, the early days of like
Speaker 2: Destiny's Child, et cetera. They're kind of giving you that
Speaker 2: like Y two K R and B pop sound. They
Speaker 2: have a song that is called walk like This that
Speaker 2: is just like, if you're wondering why I walk this way,
Speaker 2: It's because I'm getting plowed so hard right and so often.
Speaker 1: That I walk Funny, the best just got plowed songs.
Speaker 1: Since I decide, you would say by Ariana Grande.
Speaker 2: I would say without question, I would say without question,
Speaker 2: And it was really we're just sitting there and I
Speaker 2: brought a bunch of people that did not know them.
Speaker 2: I just knew they were your girls, so we had
Speaker 2: to go represent of course, by the way, they had
Speaker 2: some belts in harmony that were, oh yeah, unreal, but
Speaker 2: we were living at the lyrics. I mean, there's a
Speaker 2: reason why I walk like this, And it's really so
Speaker 2: specific about how the dick do it?
Speaker 1: The dick do it? Can I just throw in some
Speaker 1: quick wicket bts? Oh yeah? In between takes, catch me
Speaker 1: Ari and Jonathan Bailey singing I'm a budget shit anecas changing.
Speaker 1: Could you three.
Speaker 2: Figure out the harmonies, because I bet you could. It's
Speaker 2: just about it if you had enough down time to
Speaker 2: figure out who's holding down the base.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't say. Any of the three of us
Speaker 1: are professional singers, so we do not do that.
Speaker 2: I'm certainly not bowen those two. Certainly are you have
Speaker 2: proficiency as a singer.
Speaker 1: Proficiency, that's what that is. Aspirational proficiency is something we
Speaker 1: should aspire to. You more, and that's a rule of culture.
Speaker 1: What number is that, Matt, that's real kind of number
Speaker 1: ninety four. Proficiency is something we should aspire to to.
Speaker 2: I mean, always really want is to be able to
Speaker 2: go up there and say we can do the thing
Speaker 2: we were hired to do.
Speaker 1: And be exactly on the mark and not exceed anyone's expectations,
Speaker 1: including our own, including our own.
Speaker 2: I will say each and every performer at Coachella did
Speaker 2: expected first. It's been said, like on this podcast. To
Speaker 2: her face, Renee Wrap on the outdoor stage yesterday was
Speaker 2: such a moment. Not only was it a Garnier fruitise
Speaker 2: ad in terms of hair, she looked unfucking believable. The
Speaker 2: L Word original cast introduced her Reunite.
Speaker 1: My God Reunited, and the creator. I knew about that beforehand.
Speaker 2: I actually did too, Like it was sort of creeping
Speaker 2: around secret. It was the queer queer telephone, queer scuttle
Speaker 2: butt title of app churs scuttle butt, queer scuttle butt.
Speaker 2: I love that bo Her live singing is unfucking believable. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then we went right from that into Victoria Monet Bowen.
Speaker 1: Ugh, you know my feelings about Victoria Monet if flow
Speaker 1: are my girl's Victoria is the Madonna, my Madonna and
Speaker 1: the classic like Christian sense, like my, yeah, my.
Speaker 2: Donna, she's my it's actually really coaching my lady. Number
Speaker 2: ninety five Victoria my Madonna, my Madonna, wait, apostrophe Donna
Speaker 2: Madonna like Madona the Lady.
Speaker 1: I just saw a little snippets that you guys took
Speaker 1: from that set. From her set, My god, fun.
Speaker 2: She was dancing like thing, like executing every single second.
Speaker 1: She looked great. Her vibe was so incredible.
Speaker 2: Everyone in the audience beaming so excited to be there
Speaker 2: to see the current fucking reigning best new artist. Like
Speaker 2: she was playing in the Mojave tent at sunset, which
Speaker 2: is this like really great vibe.
Speaker 1: Oh, the light was so incredible.
Speaker 2: She was amazing her like and she just every song
Speaker 2: is interesting, you know what I mean. It's not even
Speaker 2: just like fun, Like every song is like really unique.
Speaker 1: It's beyond the hooks. It's greater than the some of
Speaker 1: its parts in terms of the hooks. It's like, look,
Speaker 1: I told you she can do it all, write songs, dance, sing,
Speaker 1: what more could you want? And the only note that
Speaker 1: I have for her is I wish she would show
Speaker 1: some love to Coaston because she did set a fire Eyeland.
Speaker 1: She did it. Oh she did God because I thought
Speaker 1: she like she released it as a one off, and
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe she doesn't like it as much
Speaker 1: as other stuff. I love that.
Speaker 2: Song North South East West Baby, And we were and
Speaker 2: there was another song called like Smoke, which we all like,
Speaker 2: Literally everyone just whipped out their blunt to them.
Speaker 1: It was what a great hook. It's literally every time
Speaker 1: we smoke yep.
Speaker 2: And by the way, on the back wall, it was
Speaker 2: just blunts flying through the air and her visuals.
Speaker 1: Everyone was just living life. She detroid.
Speaker 2: And then what I would also say is I've always
Speaker 2: thought of it as fuck music. It is also party music,
Speaker 2: like Jaguar should be at every wedding. Absolutely, if I
Speaker 2: had my brother's, any event I have, Jaguars is going
Speaker 2: to be what gets people up on their feet.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to brew No Mars, We've heard it. Jaguar two,
Speaker 1: you just mean the whole Jaguar. I mean the song
Speaker 1: Jaguar Oh.
Speaker 2: I see, I see, yeah, that whole album though, I
Speaker 2: mean top to bottom, top to bottom. She's an interview
Speaker 2: called big Boss on that album on the.
Speaker 1: First Jaguar, Don't I know it? Big Buss? Like a dozen.
Speaker 1: I love Victoria Fire Island this past summer. What was
Speaker 1: that playing in the bead Like when we were just
Speaker 1: like idling in bed, I was playing Jaguar two the
Speaker 1: entire time. I love that album. No, she's I love Victory.
Speaker 1: I'm so we have to go see her. Can I
Speaker 1: to say, like so easy for my diseased brain to
Speaker 1: like watch the Coachella stuff be a little jealous. I
Speaker 1: was so thrilled happy for everyone who is there, including you.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I feel like with you. It's like
Speaker 1: I immediately would turn to jealousy into like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: my sister's having fun. But that didn't that filter wasn't
Speaker 1: even there in the first place for me. I was
Speaker 1: just watching you have such a blast. You looked great,
Speaker 1: Dave looked great, Jared looked great, Stephen looked great. Patrick
Speaker 1: looked great. Was that Noah Ciris with you? Who was
Speaker 1: that woman? No, that was the iconic Bianca Bianca. She's
Speaker 1: a dead ringer for Noah Ciris as if she's her mother.
Speaker 2: She's Stephen's bestie. And we were all honest strongly high vibe,
Speaker 2: and we were it was like, I just have to say,
Speaker 2: I think last year was my first time ever going,
Speaker 2: and I was also in a certain state of mind
Speaker 2: last year when I went, you were you were with
Speaker 2: a group of people God bless them, that you weren't
Speaker 2: totally familiar with, and that makes it's fire island rules.
Speaker 1: It all depends on who you go with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so basically like, I fucking I just remember
Speaker 2: last year being like And also what I'll say is
Speaker 2: the weather was perfect this year and last year it
Speaker 2: was so fucking brutal hot, which is a risky run
Speaker 2: that actually last year I was like, I can see
Speaker 2: myself not coming if I didn't love the lineup. I
Speaker 2: am so happy I went. And now I'm the kind
Speaker 2: of person that's like I think I might go every
Speaker 2: year to that because it's just worth it. It is so
Speaker 2: worth it when you see, first of all, we haven't
Speaker 2: even talked about the fact and I can't even believe
Speaker 2: I didn't mention this, which is honestly a compliment to
Speaker 2: Renee rap how good she was. Kesha came out and
Speaker 2: they did TikTok. That's amazing and that maybe was a
Speaker 2: top three moment of the whole.
Speaker 1: Thing, right, And I haven't even gotten to all this.
Speaker 2: Other shit, like, yeah, we have huge news for the
Speaker 2: Raiders Kid's Club as it's finalists about a certain artist
Speaker 2: who was one of the headliners, and we will go
Speaker 2: into her and her career and her story very soon. Listen,
Speaker 2: I just want to say, Kesha and Renee doing TikTok
Speaker 2: was such a vibe moment. They changed the lyrics to
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning like fuck p Diddy, which
Speaker 2: felt very good and just that happening like broad strokes
Speaker 2: like no doubt that was incredible, Like every song hit,
Speaker 2: Gwen felt like Gwen, Gwen, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Gwen felt like Gwen Stefani up there. He hasn't felt
Speaker 2: like Gwen in a while. I mean, she was so
Speaker 2: Gwen that she's not.
Speaker 1: Rocketed on stage. I texted you this. You told me that.
Speaker 1: I went wow.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was allergies or she had
Speaker 2: gone back for some touchups or something.
Speaker 1: I'm not rocketing now, but only because of alleries, not
Speaker 1: not drugs.
Speaker 2: But do you think he would do it on a
Speaker 2: big screen in front of Oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: With seventy five thousand people, you would not rocket.
Speaker 1: I's not rocket a little and mixed company sometimes and
Speaker 1: I forget it's such because I'm thinking this now. This
Speaker 1: is very top of mine now, because allergies are crazy.
Speaker 1: This is a seven nine degree day in New York today,
Speaker 1: beautiful weather, but the pollen is out. And I oh,
Speaker 1: I don't really money Clareton and Zyrtech because you need
Speaker 1: to do your fucking job. Yeah, get together, Clareton in
Speaker 1: Zertech cannot quiet quit on us. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Show up clock in, don't dilly dally, don't
Speaker 1: scroll on your phone all day. Yeah. Anyway, I'm really
Speaker 1: disappointed in Clareton in Zyrtech. But I's not rocket in public.
Speaker 1: What was Olivia like?
Speaker 2: First of all, Gwen says, I like said it kind
Speaker 2: of like threw it away. I'm like, did she just
Speaker 2: say Olivia Rodrigo because that would be And then I
Speaker 2: saw it was totally her. Scott got it first, so
Speaker 2: I turned and like watched our friends and the crowd.
Speaker 1: I watched it hit them and that was really fun.
Speaker 2: I mean again, like those kinds of collabs were happening
Speaker 2: all across the world when and let me just I'm
Speaker 2: saving her for a last because it really was the
Speaker 2: turning point of the moment for me. But like I
Speaker 2: walked away from this, but fucking Will Smith came out
Speaker 2: during Jay Balvin set and they did Men in Black.
Speaker 2: We missed, Shakira drop in on the show we missed,
Speaker 2: Katie Perry dropped in on a show we missed. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable at any given time, like who's just there
Speaker 2: of course, And like I totally have no issue with
Speaker 2: it being like this standard thing to do at Coachella,
Speaker 2: just like surprise dropping guests.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there has been a lot written about the
Speaker 1: exceptional thing and this might devetail nicely into what we
Speaker 1: want to talk about for a bit between No Doubt
Speaker 1: and Olivia and Lana and Billy, like those were the
Speaker 1: two exceptions where it wasn't like younger upstart bringing in
Speaker 1: like legend legend. Yeah, it was like mother bringing daughter on. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that is very cool and interesting, and it just
Speaker 1: seemed like a very yeah for all the people who've
Speaker 1: written this year's set off, including us, this year's lineup off,
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a very cool, compelling, newsworthy
Speaker 1: Coachella year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, let's just say, first of all, there's
Speaker 2: other things on my mind, Like I wanted just shout
Speaker 2: out Bleachers because they were unreal. And Jack Antonov, you
Speaker 2: are a king.
Speaker 1: He really is. For all, he really is a king
Speaker 1: like that boy is a rock star. And I didn't
Speaker 1: know he was such an incredible performer, a musical genius,
Speaker 1: incredible performer. You know, he's just but he is like
Speaker 1: all of these things, and he is comfortably all of
Speaker 1: these things that he has known. There's never been any
Speaker 1: sweat on Jack's face.
Speaker 2: No, except the beautiful sweat on his body during the set,
Speaker 2: and he was looking like a king.
Speaker 1: I was like, this man has every girl.
Speaker 2: Here if he wants them like him. Oh, it was
Speaker 2: like all the katies were at Bleachers.
Speaker 1: That's cute.
Speaker 2: And I met you guys and I loved it, and
Speaker 2: we were all we were all saying, that's the king
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't.
Speaker 2: I could not be a bigger fan of Jack Antonov,
Speaker 2: especially after that.
Speaker 1: So wait, Billy and Lana talk about it. Euphoria, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, euphoria.
Speaker 2: Oceanized into I just couldn't believe an ocean. I started
Speaker 2: what was happening, and then fucking video games like Billy
Speaker 2: on video games. Billy's voice in Coachella, ringing through the air,
Speaker 2: singing that song on that stage. Good luck, good luck
Speaker 2: to anyone else producing sound. Honestly, you flopped in the
Speaker 2: face of Billy Eiler singing video games dot Coachella.
Speaker 1: If you produce sound, you lost the war. You're done.
Speaker 1: Stop speaking and singing. If you were making any sound
Speaker 1: with your vocal chords in that moment, Honey, you lost
Speaker 1: the war.
Speaker 2: You lost this one. Take it home, Billy. Billy is
Speaker 2: such a freak and a half. Her voice is nuts,
Speaker 2: her voice is yeah nuts. It was unreal. And also
Speaker 2: I had a text bowing pretty immediately after. Lana said
Speaker 2: because I think it's public apology time. Well, because to
Speaker 2: anyone out there who thoughtful, I mean, no I'm just
Speaker 2: saying anyone who listened to this and thought, oh, this
Speaker 2: is a great pop culture podcast, we have never given
Speaker 2: Lona the credit, and I want to take ownership of
Speaker 2: my own behavior. I just usually, and I'm not blaming
Speaker 2: you for this, It's just usually you would be the
Speaker 2: person to taste make for me in this way, and
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that you're not a.
Speaker 1: Lot of freak. I am Alana freak now. I think
Speaker 1: I am on the way to lot of freakdom. Can
Speaker 1: I just say this is something that I think people
Speaker 1: can understand, and I think a lot of fans Lona
Speaker 1: Gaze can cop to. But there is something so like
Speaker 1: pro inhibitively passionate about Alana del Reggae that they're like
Speaker 1: the barrier of entry is high. I know, I know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing here. And if you come out and say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not like fully literate in Lana, then that is
Speaker 1: immediately disqualifying and I think doesn't encourage you to explore
Speaker 1: further because I think people start to get angry at you. Yes,
Speaker 1: she has gay mafia. She has gay mafia. It's similar
Speaker 1: to Barbes. Maybe, to be fair, it's not similar to
Speaker 1: swifties or swifties. Even if there's a diletant swifty who
Speaker 1: like crosses paths with them, a swiftie is not gonna,
Speaker 1: hopefully not gonna be like, well, you don't deserve to
Speaker 1: be called that.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they can be like, oh you started with
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine cute like come here into my arms,
Speaker 2: wear a bracelet like Alana Gay will throw arsenic in
Speaker 2: your face. Yeah, if you're not like fluid in blue banisters,
Speaker 2: it's kind of over.
Speaker 1: For the girls. It's over if you don't know the
Speaker 1: entire Kinsugi melody, if you don't know all nine minutes
Speaker 1: of what's that song? Benis Bitch, then you are dead.
Speaker 1: But anyway I've been, I would say I've been a
Speaker 1: diletant Lana gay for this whole time, and I would
Speaker 1: love to make inroads to being a full fledged Lawna gay.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen for both of us.
Speaker 2: And what I would ask for from our audience that
Speaker 2: and maybe if there are some Lana gays out there
Speaker 2: that feel already they filled their shoulders rising at this conversation.
Speaker 2: What we want to say is we acknowledge your authority.
Speaker 2: We acknowledge it already.
Speaker 1: We must sound so stupid, right We kiss, we kiss,
Speaker 1: we kiss, we kiss you well say. I think the
Speaker 1: big moment for Lana personally where I was like she
Speaker 1: might be one of the greatest songwriters of our generation
Speaker 1: was Norman fucking Rockwell coming out. It was like twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, because
Speaker 1: you know what Norman fucking Rockwell like. It is kind
Speaker 1: of little monsters, put your weapons down. It is what
Speaker 1: art pop kind of was trying to be. An album
Speaker 1: about art, an album book artist, an album about people, men, women, whatever,
Speaker 1: who are artists who are destructive and toxic, and about
Speaker 1: how art itself is destructive and toxic. Like, I fucking
Speaker 1: love that album. And I was like, whoa, something's happening here,
Speaker 1: Cinnamon Girl, Are you kidding me? Yeah? Also like Mariner's
Speaker 1: Apartment Complex, so fucking good doing time. Oh it's a
Speaker 1: great album.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I mean out of my like Weekend of Yes,
Speaker 2: really seeping in it.
Speaker 1: I am actually a lust for life girly.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: I am really obsessed with a lot of songs on
Speaker 2: and also I love Born to Die. I love her
Speaker 2: first album and I realized actually when it came out,
Speaker 2: I did listen to it a lot because I'm literally
Speaker 2: sitting here and I'm like, oh, I'm off book on
Speaker 2: a lot of this. This must have been something I
Speaker 2: like let absorb in college. But really, truly, I think
Speaker 2: something did happen around that SNL performance that like did
Speaker 2: mar her in the minds of some like you know,
Speaker 2: millennial gaze that like aren't as smart as you, the
Speaker 2: Lana fan listening with your shoulders still raised you. We kiss,
Speaker 2: we love you were obsessed, you are the authority, weird, dumb,
Speaker 2: and we let the SNL performance derail us. That was
Speaker 2: our bad Yes.
Speaker 1: You know what derailed it for me for a bit?
Speaker 1: What listening to National Anthem when that album came out
Speaker 1: with our good Girl Rachel Durrowski, because me and Rachel
Speaker 1: were high off of our gourds in college listening to
Speaker 1: National Anthem and laughing, crying tears at her singing money
Speaker 1: is the reason we exactly everybody it's a kids kiss
Speaker 1: and we were like, that is the dumbest lyric ever written.
Speaker 1: And now but see, now this is the thing, and like,
Speaker 1: this is what I wish I could tell myself back
Speaker 1: then in twenty twelve, like wait, wait four albums, you're
Speaker 1: gonna see it's her thing. It makes sense. She's a character. Yeah.
Speaker 1: People were telling me that back then, but I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it. Yeah, you just thought, Oh, this dummy, this
Speaker 1: fucking dumbass writing about money kiss because she made kiss
Speaker 1: kiss rhyme with exist, this stupid idiot. I love it.
Speaker 1: Now I'm the stupid idiot. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Where I was at back then. I was like, do
Speaker 2: I think this is ironic or not? I hope I did,
Speaker 2: but I can't recall literally it being around. I just
Speaker 2: I was never interacting with her. And then because I
Speaker 2: think the SNL thing I took up so much space.
Speaker 2: But I knew the album, I knew the music. But
Speaker 2: now when she's performing at Coachella, and by the way,
Speaker 2: her vocals are in credible beautiful, like live there, haunting.
Speaker 2: She's got such control. I love the amount of like
Speaker 2: character she plays when she sings, like I love. She's
Speaker 2: just very fucking creative obviously, just like I now understand
Speaker 2: everyone being like, right, this is the one. Like I
Speaker 2: remember years ago, even Kanye West sorry said like, no
Speaker 2: pop girl is doing it like Lana, she she is
Speaker 2: leagues ahead, and I remember being like, what he is crazy?
Speaker 1: And then now I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: She really and Billy at the end of their set
Speaker 2: together was like, this is the reason why half of
Speaker 2: us were even born, like like giving all the credit
Speaker 2: video games a song that came out when she was nine.
Speaker 2: You know, you realize, like Lana del Rey has been around.
Speaker 2: There are albums and albums, there is such a discography
Speaker 2: that she like had you know, one tenth of the
Speaker 2: stuff you would want to hear up there on that
Speaker 2: stage and not a moment wasted. It was fucking great.
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm so so happy you enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I hope she feels some amount of I mean, she's
Speaker 1: felt this multiple times in your career since the SNL performance,
Speaker 1: but like, I hope she's felt some vindication, and especially
Speaker 1: at Coachella, like that is a career peak for so
Speaker 1: many artists. And I'm not saying she's not gonna ascend
Speaker 1: more heights rater heights, but I hope she felt very,
Speaker 1: very proud, because that is that is a long game
Speaker 1: of like knowing that people are gonna deliberately misunderstand you
Speaker 1: at first, and then coming in on top.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean there was a billboard on the
Speaker 2: way out there that referenced the SNL performance.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you this. There was a billboard that
Speaker 1: was like.
Speaker 2: It was some like biblical reference like and then the
Speaker 2: date of the SNL performance and the letters SNL. And
Speaker 2: Patrick was like, yeah, that's a lot of billboard. I'm like,
Speaker 2: is she still stuck on the SNL thing? Do you
Speaker 2: think she thinks about it? Am I safe at my job?
Speaker 2: Are the Lana Gay's gonna fucking storm the capitol? I
Speaker 2: think that all we're saying is love. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think that you are an ally now there.
Speaker 1: But the Lana stands, don't I think the Lana stands.
Speaker 1: What if they just come and destroy us. They're gonna
Speaker 1: check us, They're gonna check out.
Speaker 2: No, I please, I want so badly to be part
Speaker 2: of the community. And all I want to do is
Speaker 2: come with my arms wide open. And if it means
Speaker 2: I have to disassociate from Bowen Yang, yeah, I will
Speaker 2: throw off. Plus I will take me, take me.
Speaker 1: Well. Can I tell you something that got in the
Speaker 1: way for me for Lana personally? And it's maybe the stupidest,
Speaker 1: most unbased literally thing that I've ever acted on in
Speaker 1: my days as a pop stand I.
Speaker 2: Think you should because whenever you share personal stories as
Speaker 2: a reason why you believe something, it helps the listener
Speaker 2: really understand you better. And I think that by sharing
Speaker 2: this personal anecdote that we're going to come to a
Speaker 2: lot of understanding on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Thank you for teaching me. This is something that I
Speaker 1: read on a message board at gagadaily dot com. Oh no,
Speaker 1: and this was right before art pop came out, right
Speaker 1: after Lana kind of blew up, and there was apparently
Speaker 1: someone might have lied. Somebody lied to me several times
Speaker 1: several times on that message board and made allegations that
Speaker 1: Lana del Rey was posting screeds on her Twitter and Instagram,
Speaker 1: but mostly Twitter at the time. This person said that
Speaker 1: Lana was out there being like, Lady Gaga sucks, fuck you,
Speaker 1: you stupid bitch. Why are you collabing with Kendrick Lamar
Speaker 1: all this stuff? And I was like, she's toast, She's dead.
Speaker 1: To me, you were lied to, Lena Delray. I was
Speaker 1: lied to. I don't I don't think there was any
Speaker 1: actual beef between Lana and Gaga. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: there would be no, no, no, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I think there is mutual love and respect there.
Speaker 2: She kind of gives me the vibe of a character
Speaker 2: that I sometimes do called shy toxic girl, like a
Speaker 2: girl who's very shy, but the second you fuck with her,
Speaker 2: she can become very toxic.
Speaker 1: I don't think when you even have to fuck with her.
Speaker 1: I think she's kind of just toxic the whole time.
Speaker 2: If you just talk to her, she she's shy, she
Speaker 2: will not make the first move in the conversation. But
Speaker 2: if you just so much as try to strike up
Speaker 2: conversation with her, toxic girl, do you want to try it?
Speaker 1: Do you want to do it now and show people
Speaker 1: what it is? Sure? Try to approach me. Okay, So
Speaker 1: Matt is kind of looking down, sipping his water, blank
Speaker 1: stare throughout the space. Hi there me, Yeah? Hi? How
Speaker 1: are you? A lot of people here don't like you.
Speaker 1: What how did you know? Yeah? You're going yang right?
Speaker 1: Did you take a poll?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I didn't have to. They were all saying it already. Oh,
Speaker 1: they were offering it up to you. Yeah. I'm really
Speaker 1: easy to talk to. Apparently not for me.
Speaker 2: I don't find that to be true personally, my pussy, Like,
Speaker 2: that's shy, toxic girl. That's shy toxic girl for you.
Speaker 2: Try it with your friends, although a lot of you
Speaker 2: probably don't even have to try. Our readership so shy
Speaker 2: and toxic. Everyone that came up at Coachella was so sweet.
Speaker 2: I loved meaning you guys.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: Wait and can I tell you where I saw the
Speaker 2: most readers and katies And in fact, someone shout out
Speaker 2: to the Q case who told me they were publicists,
Speaker 2: because I always remember my publicist at Chapel Roone who
Speaker 2: destroyed That was the first show of the whole weekend.
Speaker 1: That was the tone center. Oh my god, in front
Speaker 1: of our eyes. I so happy people were giving you
Speaker 1: the flowers you deserve because you were king publicist for
Speaker 1: a second there for her. Listen.
Speaker 2: It's all I can do to point someone to Chapel
Speaker 2: when she's there doing it all, Like, I mean, look
Speaker 2: at that.
Speaker 1: Like every single.
Speaker 2: Time I see Chapel Rowan, I leave thinking I was
Speaker 2: just a part of something special.
Speaker 1: That was the third time I've seen her. And apparently
Speaker 1: her streaming has gone way up since something shifted.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, since even her performance and obviously before that,
Speaker 2: like the Olivia Rodrigo tour of it all, like people
Speaker 2: are finding chapel and the sky is the limit. The
Speaker 2: Tiny Desk was huge, by the way, if you haven't
Speaker 2: watched her Tiny Desk, you must. I love that she's
Speaker 2: committing to like this drag queen aesthetic. I think it's
Speaker 2: a blast, but like slightly busted, like lipstick on the teeth,
Speaker 2: you know. And the new song good Luck Babe is
Speaker 2: really really fucking good and everyone was living singing at
Speaker 2: the bridge incredible usea. She is wailing, wailing, and the
Speaker 2: vocal is a real thing. Her vocals.
Speaker 1: Yes, God, that song is so good. It's giving like
Speaker 1: I don't know, fucking Billy Idol and Kate Bush at
Speaker 1: the same time. Like there's something so cool about the
Speaker 1: way she's like combining these sounds. It's giving the gay
Speaker 1: pop that Jojo Siwah is claiming she's pioneering right now,
Speaker 1: and she is. Don't you dare question?
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry if we're afraid of the Lana gas
Speaker 2: did Jojo gays come at me?
Speaker 1: Oh careful, listen.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is I don't know what this
Speaker 2: new era is, but maybe it's just not for me,
Speaker 2: which is totally fine.
Speaker 1: In about twelve years. This is exactly what happened with
Speaker 1: us and Lana.
Speaker 2: How can I never give Jojo the credit when she's
Speaker 2: headlining go Jella.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know she's She's on her way to headlining Coade.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: I will be there, and you're right, I'll be eating crow.
Speaker 2: I'll be eating humble pie. Humble Pie.
Speaker 1: Now, were you in the vicinity of Teresa Judaice meeting
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2: No, but here's what I will say about that whole thing.
Speaker 2: When that picture so okay being at Coachella weekend one
Speaker 2: when Lana is headlining and Sabrina is there. By the way,
Speaker 2: Sabrina was very cute. I love espresso. The music video
Speaker 2: is super cute. She was on the Coachello stage. I
Speaker 2: do have to say I came from Chapel Roone, which
Speaker 2: was so special that the energy was just lower at
Speaker 2: the Sabrina show. But she's adorable. She looks like Hayden
Speaker 2: Panatsia fucking year in the face. It's a head.
Speaker 1: Transplant, I am sure of it.
Speaker 2: So she is performing, and so Jack with Bleachers is
Speaker 2: also there. There's kind of just this looming thing of
Speaker 2: Taylor right, Taylor has the album this week, you know,
Speaker 2: like Lana headlining, she had brought her up for the
Speaker 2: album of the year thing. The fact that Billy came
Speaker 2: out and not Taylor, I think everyone was holding their
Speaker 2: breath for Taylor to come out, and I left feeling like, oh,
Speaker 2: like Taylor will definitely come out next week. Then like
Speaker 2: in Billy's place, like maybe the day or album comes out,
Speaker 2: Lana's headlining, Taylor comes out. But then people started talking
Speaker 2: like maybe there's some kind of like the vibe isn't
Speaker 2: very good between Lana and Taylor right now, because Taylor
Speaker 2: was like pictured in Sushi Park in Los Angeles and
Speaker 2: then came the next day and took pictures with like
Speaker 2: Teresa Judices. You know, she was pictured more with Teresa
Speaker 2: Judice at Coachella, and she was definitely like at the
Speaker 2: Ice Bye show. So I don't know what message is
Speaker 2: trying to be sent here, or maybe it's just a
Speaker 2: girl at Coachella with her boyfriend and she really wanted
Speaker 2: to have sushi on Friday instead of seeing her friend Headline, who.
Speaker 1: She said was the reason why all the girls are
Speaker 1: popping off. But we'll see this week. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: check back in in a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was this anticipation that then became like a
Speaker 2: little like like what's happening?
Speaker 1: And then she never did show up, but she was there.
Speaker 1: She was there. Let's check back in in a week
Speaker 1: about the new album. I love that she's putting out
Speaker 1: a Kubler Ross album, Stages of Grief album. I'm very
Speaker 1: into the theme so far. I'm very into the theme.
Speaker 1: And do you see the songwriting credits all Jack and Aaron?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, very very interesting.
Speaker 2: Let's check back in, as we say, will you never
Speaker 2: know what to expect with Taylor? No, will we get
Speaker 2: Taylor or Taylor? Maybe a mix of both? Maybe TAYLORA, TAYLORA.
Speaker 2: Have we ever had TAYLORA? Bravex TAYLORA. That was the
Speaker 2: birth of TAYLORA.
Speaker 1: That was the birth of Taylor. She was so evenly
Speaker 1: Taylor and Taylor was that midnights? That was midnight Taylor happened.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, wow, we are just swimming in the music,
Speaker 2: swimming in the music. I was just gonna say, like,
Speaker 2: in conclusion, for the Coachella thing, it was just like
Speaker 2: it was nice to go to a music festival and
Speaker 2: see like, oh, music is like in a really good space,
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of really cool artists, Like I
Speaker 2: walked past this for Olivia Dean and now I'm like
Speaker 2: such a fan, like you walk past and like you
Speaker 2: experienced something cool and new and it was the vibes
Speaker 2: were very good, the weather was fucking perfect, and I
Speaker 2: was so happy to go.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear snippet of new Billy song
Speaker 1: that she played for Zay and Low. Yeah, I'm excite.
Speaker 2: I mean again, like Billy has me in the palm
Speaker 2: of her hand, right. I think this is gonna be
Speaker 2: a cunty album.
Speaker 1: All love to Happier than ever, stripped down jazzy, love it,
Speaker 1: but like I do miss that when we all fall asleep,
Speaker 1: era like fucking blast this at the club for me,
Speaker 1: why don't you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will say off happier than ever. I
Speaker 2: do love Oxytocin that kind of gave something like the
Speaker 2: first one. But I'm wanting to sort of like a
Speaker 2: monster single from her that like, but she's not doing
Speaker 2: a monster single until after the album comes out, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I love that move too.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm I am going back to my
Speaker 1: like bagg at roots. I bought Judy at Carnegie Hall.
Speaker 1: Finyl go on. I'm like, oh, yeah, sure, like you know,
Speaker 1: legendary night. Yeah yeah. People are like it's it was
Speaker 1: the greatest concert ever. I'm like, like truly, like literally
Speaker 1: it has been called the greatest night I think, the
Speaker 1: greatest concert ever, or the greatest night ever or whatever,
Speaker 1: the greatest night of all, the greatest night of all something. No,
Speaker 1: but I know you're being funny, but like it was
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah. I think she's the first woman
Speaker 1: to win Album of the Year. Judy Garland with Judy
Speaker 1: at Carnegie Hall. Ooh, I'm ninety percent surreying right about that.
Speaker 1: But that album one Album of the Year in fucking
Speaker 1: I think seventy one. Oh when did that album come out?
Speaker 1: Are you checking Judy at Carnegie Hall?
Speaker 2: There are some Judy gaze out there there that are
Speaker 2: just as vicious as the Lanagas. Who knows already they're
Speaker 2: listening to us do this and they're saying, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Please correct the record. I meant nineteen sixty one. I
Speaker 1: was a whole decade off the album on the Grammy
Speaker 1: Ward for Apple of the Year, making Garland the first
Speaker 1: woman to win the award. Bohen you knew so many.
Speaker 2: Of the elements of that fact, and I'm thinking that, like,
Speaker 2: I know, you're gonna beat yourself up for the nineteen
Speaker 2: one of it all, but you knew so many elements
Speaker 2: of that fact. Thank you, thank you, But can we
Speaker 2: give it up for Judy one hundred percent? These people
Speaker 2: in that room are some of the luckiest people in
Speaker 2: the world. Yeah, that was a moment in history. Was
Speaker 2: that like an eventized thing at the time?
Speaker 1: I guess so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Judy at Carnegie Hall, So then it's like,
Speaker 2: was it like a big night?
Speaker 1: It was like imagine like Beyonce doing one show that
Speaker 1: was going to be a retrospective of her entire career
Speaker 1: in a four or five thousand seat space.
Speaker 2: You have to try to go to these things. If
Speaker 2: you can, you have to go see live music. That's
Speaker 2: just how I feel Like so many times this weekend,
Speaker 2: I was like, I am so fucking thankful I saw that,
Speaker 2: like I may have seen the last time No Doubt
Speaker 2: ever performs together. I'd coach, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: that's amazing. I will say, I'm sort of skipping around this.
Speaker 2: Doja kad didn't give what I want?
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, that's too bad, That's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean she did a lot of the last album,
Speaker 2: and she did Demons and she had this bit where
Speaker 2: all of her dancers were covered in blonde hair and
Speaker 2: she had this long blonde wig and that was really great.
Speaker 2: But she didn't do any like the more poppy stuff
Speaker 2: and I would have loved some of them. Well, she
Speaker 2: has a complicated relationship with that. She seems tortured about it,
Speaker 2: Like I think she did say.
Speaker 1: So at a show recently and was like, come on,
Speaker 1: cash grab, and you're like, but that wasn't a cash
Speaker 1: grab at the time because you were writing that when
Speaker 1: you were still up and coming. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: like she can. Her relationship to her old music is
Speaker 1: whatever she wants to be. I do remember the days
Speaker 1: when she was like just an algorithm artist to me.
Speaker 1: She had an EP out, she had a song called
Speaker 1: go to Town that I loved and the really awesome
Speaker 1: music video. This is before MoU I was with Dojo
Speaker 1: pod MoU yea. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: I do remember you again, taste Maker. Like I said before,
Speaker 2: you were the one who showed me moo. Not so
Speaker 2: much anymore. I used to be pretty.
Speaker 1: I used to keep my ear to the ground on
Speaker 1: these things much better than I do now. But like Premu,
Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta listen to this girl doja Cat.
Speaker 1: She can rap, she can sing, like all these things.
Speaker 1: And then I do like Scarlet a lot. I do
Speaker 1: hope for the day soon when she is able to
Speaker 1: reckon with the multitudes of styles that she's kind of
Speaker 1: like played in and so and bring them all together
Speaker 1: and not have those be at war with each other. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My thing is like, if you don't like the music,
Speaker 2: then sure, don't do it, but let's not act like
Speaker 2: cooler than the pop thing that like has brought all
Speaker 2: lot of people to that stage to watch you, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And also they're great fucking songs. They're amazing, Like they're
Speaker 2: great songs. Like I don't know. And this is assuming
Speaker 2: again that she doesn't like say so, But if she
Speaker 2: said what you just said, then like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think probably a note for that type of person
Speaker 2: would be to be less online and care less about
Speaker 2: what people say because you obviously loved the song or
Speaker 2: like the song a lot, at least at one point
Speaker 2: enough to make a lot of other ones like it
Speaker 2: even and do that for a while, So to shirk
Speaker 2: it off like that is I think a shame.
Speaker 1: She even did that with Planet Her and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I thought that was like the Imperial Phase album, and
Speaker 1: that for an Imperio Phase album, that is an excellent
Speaker 1: fucking record. I think Doja may be a little more
Speaker 1: bothered than she wants people to think. I do think
Speaker 1: she's very online, and that's okay, who among us isn't.
Speaker 1: But I hope it's something that is overcome very perfect
Speaker 1: blue vibes. I'm sorry to say, yeah, very And also
Speaker 1: I want to say what she did was excellent. It
Speaker 1: was just a lot of it felt like like an
Speaker 1: art installation and not a show. No problem. People do that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: people do that all the time. I want to shout out,
Speaker 1: I love Maggie Rodgers album alone. Oh yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: you spinning it talk on this. It's just really lovely, tight, perfect,
Speaker 1: like upstate driving music, which I told her to her face.
Speaker 1: I was like, don't forget me had just come out.
Speaker 1: I'd taken my trip to Wildflower Farm and that song
Speaker 1: came out, and then I got to do this thing
Speaker 1: at Carnegie Hall with her. Speaking of Carnegie Hall, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and I got to tell her. I was like, congrats
Speaker 1: on the new singles. They're great. Don't forget me. It
Speaker 1: was like blasting in my car on the way upstate
Speaker 1: and it was perfect, and she like looked at me
Speaker 1: and was like, that is exactly what I was going
Speaker 1: for with this album. I was like, oh, great, then,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it. And then she even
Speaker 1: makes an usion to driving upstate. Give it a twirl.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 2: I will, because that's when I first fell in love
Speaker 2: with her. Was an upstate moment.
Speaker 1: Did I introduce Maggie Rodgers to you too? No?
Speaker 2: You actually I think you probably were a reinforcer, But
Speaker 2: I do remember it was on in the car and
Speaker 2: I the person that had introduced Maggie Rogers to us
Speaker 2: was Mike Kelton on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you're right, You're so right.
Speaker 2: This was before she This was I think only right
Speaker 2: after the Pharrell the Farrell thing had been out, yes,
Speaker 2: and he had maybe heard a couple other songs, but
Speaker 2: pre the album. Because I remember then we were proficient
Speaker 2: in her enough again to bring back proficiency to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: she has a lot of new music, and then I
Speaker 2: fell in love.
Speaker 1: Well, I played my album because the album had just
Speaker 1: come out when we met upstate. And then I think
Speaker 1: I'm not taking any credit for like were introducing you
Speaker 1: to her, but I do remember like being like, oh, Matt,
Speaker 1: you would love the full album.
Speaker 2: Yes, And then we were also there when she did SNL,
Speaker 2: she did Falling Water and light light On and she did.
Speaker 1: So that was a fucking huge record for her. I
Speaker 1: loved light On so much.
Speaker 2: It was like the song I needed to hear at
Speaker 2: the time. That was like after Henry and I broke
Speaker 2: up and I was trying to get that was that.
Speaker 1: That was at the end of our we had like
Speaker 1: a hard summer and then that was that fall. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then look at you now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: God, Oh dude, good.
Speaker 2: Since then, my marijuana has enveloped my mind now, so listen,
Speaker 2: talk to me about this. Oh. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson is dead. I saw headline that he was saying
Speaker 1: that he told an interviewer once that it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to live in LA because at any moment, I
Speaker 1: could be sitting next to the person who quote did it. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 2: This man is still out here denying I could still
Speaker 2: be the person who didn't at anytime.
Speaker 1: Like and that's what you were, fucking crazy man.
Speaker 2: Goodbye. Oh. I was at Coachella when I found out
Speaker 2: you died. Patrick and I were like, house and I
Speaker 2: were like.
Speaker 1: We're always like somewhere somewhere someone dies always when I'm
Speaker 1: on vacation. Yeah, it happens all the time. Kobe died. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was very much at home when Kobe died. That
Speaker 1: was sad.
Speaker 2: Who died when you were on vacation? Didn't someone die
Speaker 2: when we were in Palm Springs?
Speaker 1: Someone died? Betty White died when we were in Mexico City. Yes,
Speaker 1: someone did die when we were in We shouldn't be
Speaker 1: having fun when people drop. People drop when I drop in.
Speaker 1: People A lot of people on a vacation with Betty
Speaker 1: White diye because it was New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we all share in the blame of Betty
Speaker 2: White's death. We couldn't keep Betty White alive. How fucking
Speaker 2: dare we?
Speaker 1: How dare we? O? J? Simpson is dead?
Speaker 2: What else we don't know where? Clarence Thomas is right,
Speaker 2: he didn't show up to court.
Speaker 1: If you're not going to show up to court, then
Speaker 1: what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 2: I mean, we were just talking in the car about this,
Speaker 2: because we were talking about the Clarence Thomas of it all,
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is not mine. I don't
Speaker 2: think so, honey. But I don't think so, honey. Lifetime appointments.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any fucking sense. And it makes me
Speaker 2: so annoyed when I realized, like we have like a
Speaker 2: certain set of rules that like no one can question.
Speaker 1: That are so stupid.
Speaker 2: It is so dumb for someone to have a lifetime
Speaker 2: appointment to anything.
Speaker 1: I thought we were supposed to not have that anywhere whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm so stoned. I don't care.
Speaker 2: Bowen and I have a problem with the way the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court works. Okay, and we're here Tom lost culturis
Speaker 2: to talk about it. Welcome back to another episode of
Speaker 2: Talking Biden. Our podcast slowly transforms over the next six
Speaker 2: months into Talking Bouten.
Speaker 1: No, I can't. We have to do we have to
Speaker 1: do what we can we can't. We can't do that.
Speaker 1: We will be renaming the podcast Talking Biden. If anyone
Speaker 1: thinks we're being serious, please there was something I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask risk earlier, like disclaiming like we're not being
Speaker 1: serious here, but I forget what it is. And I
Speaker 1: am just gonna live with the consequence. There's a disclaimer
Speaker 1: on this whole podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's disclaimer. We are two dummies often this high
Speaker 2: talking about tunes. There's just tunes, and they're just characters
Speaker 2: that sing them.
Speaker 1: Are they real people? I don't know, No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: mean I am very much looking forward to being with
Speaker 1: you in Los Angeles when this Taylor album drops. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My fantasy is we will be playing it and we
Speaker 1: will be on the floor staring at the ceiling. I'm
Speaker 1: literally in the room where we're going to be playing it,
Speaker 1: and the vibes in here for listening to music are
Speaker 1: so good because my apartment is so kind of small,
Speaker 1: so the music stays in a contained space. Now that's
Speaker 1: what makes the sound even better.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is actually musicology. Prince was my teacher. When
Speaker 2: you listen to music in a very small room, especially
Speaker 2: with a carpet, the sound gets soaked up, and especially
Speaker 2: on vinyl.
Speaker 1: But we won't be able to listen to it on vinyl,
Speaker 1: will we Hmm? I think we don't have to stay
Speaker 1: locked into this plan that you.
Speaker 2: Want to go watch it at Jared's because he has
Speaker 2: our quote unquote watched I get it.
Speaker 1: Listen to what I mean. Oh, listen, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be picky.
Speaker 2: You know what we are calling from the spirits of Taylor.
Speaker 2: What we are calling by doing this, you being in
Speaker 2: LA and us being together for the first time we
Speaker 2: listened to it. What we are calling is folklore. S
Speaker 2: it's folklore. Yeah, we are calling that forward. We really are.
Speaker 1: It's better than when folklore came out, because when folklore
Speaker 1: came out, we were at Greta Teitelman's house and she
Speaker 1: and Sudie were making too much noise.
Speaker 2: They were making way too much noise in the home
Speaker 2: that Greta owned, and I was like, you know what, stop.
Speaker 1: This is not about you.
Speaker 2: In the house that you own and have paid for it.
Speaker 2: This is about us. You don't live by your own
Speaker 2: rules and your house. This is about us having an
Speaker 2: experience listening to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: That was a really special night. Also, can I say
Speaker 1: one of the first nights during the pandemic, when we
Speaker 1: ate dinner outside, we were being very like you know,
Speaker 1: COVID era social distance.
Speaker 2: We were like, it's a weird world, but it's a
Speaker 2: new world. We're eating outside on the street.
Speaker 1: But then we kind of broke the rules and we're like,
Speaker 1: maybe we should go inside, Like we've all been feeling
Speaker 1: okay the last like week or so, right, let's just
Speaker 1: go inside. Thankfully no one got COVID. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was five k, It was five of us. When did
Speaker 1: that up come out? Was it July twenty twenty? July
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Yeah, never forget.
Speaker 2: Okay, So July twenty twenty, people started rolling the dice. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's just say it. People started eating inside in groups
Speaker 2: of four period period and you did it. You did it,
Speaker 2: Lana del Rey Fan, drop your shoulders, don't be so upset.
Speaker 2: We want to be with you. We want to be
Speaker 2: with you more than anything.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I got a clip of Lana singing the Grants,
Speaker 1: that first track off of did you Know There's a
Speaker 1: Tunnel under a funny Amazing I'm gonna do that thing
Speaker 1: with the three singers.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, it was really special, like there's such incredible
Speaker 2: musicians around her too. And I also want to say
Speaker 2: she looked on believable.
Speaker 1: She looked like shimmerie dress, a movie star.
Speaker 2: And the way that she came out was like her
Speaker 2: riding in on the motorcycle like so unbothered, and then
Speaker 2: she her literal last song was young and Beautiful and
Speaker 2: then just gets on the motorcycle and rides out like
Speaker 2: no fanfare, just like bye, with her little smile on.
Speaker 2: And the last question she asked the audience was will
Speaker 2: you still love me when I'm no longer young and beautiful?
Speaker 2: Got on the motorcycle on left, and I said something
Speaker 2: for us all to think about. My answer will be yes, Lana.
Speaker 1: Yes. Here's a question. Is this the year of Gatsby.
Speaker 1: Gatsby is somehow back in the year of country and
Speaker 1: the year of Gatsby at the same time. How can
Speaker 1: we make this happen? I don't know. I mean, cowboys
Speaker 1: exist in the twenties, who's to say, Who's to say?
Speaker 1: I think they were invented in two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was when mya dude didn't music.
Speaker 1: She started a cowboys. She really was for she really
Speaker 1: was Wait a minute, you know who was an amazing
Speaker 1: parody of the music video on Matt TV was Mo Collins.
Speaker 1: Mo Collins doing Madonna on Mat TV goes under appreciate it?
Speaker 1: Can we give it up for Mo Collins? Period? It's
Speaker 1: a movement not a moment. It's a movement, not a moment.
Speaker 2: I said that after every single and you were right
Speaker 2: every time each time. Now I want to say, I
Speaker 2: want to shout I've impassioned because I want to shout
Speaker 2: out randomly as fuck, but not undeservedly do it. Mo Collins,
Speaker 2: Will Sasso, Deborah Messaying, Nicole Sullivan out for Stein, Stephanie Weird.
Speaker 2: Deborah mess I said, Deborah Wilson, didn't you said, Deborah
Speaker 2: mess straps take off? Matt TV had a goaded cast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: really just leave it at that. Funny fucking people.
Speaker 1: They all had it all they did.
Speaker 2: But Mel Collins did a parody of music by Madonna
Speaker 2: and it was about my movies. Ma Mikes Roger Ebert,
Speaker 2: I was like, so stupid. Oh it was about her
Speaker 2: bad reviews. It was about her movies being bad.
Speaker 1: See mad TV.
Speaker 2: You guys had a talented cast, but you really did
Speaker 2: do some pretty mean stuff.
Speaker 1: You guys were mean.
Speaker 2: There was no reason to say the things that you said.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you should be ashamed of yourself. So if we
Speaker 2: just named you, sit in shame for an after no
Speaker 2: no shame, it's time for I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 2: we're making this a quick hour today.
Speaker 1: We have some interesting episodes and guests coming up.
Speaker 2: Let's just say the form is going to be a
Speaker 2: little broken here and there, and you know, bro' you're
Speaker 2: coming to town to do one of these. Maybe we
Speaker 2: should do after we've listened to the album. Maybe we
Speaker 2: should discuss the album live so we can have an
Speaker 2: episode that is like a tortured poet's department episode and
Speaker 2: then potentially try to get someone else from La to
Speaker 2: hop on love that love that idea. And then we
Speaker 2: got to do our iconic four hundred at some point. Yes,
Speaker 2: we continue to miss it.
Speaker 1: We have blown past four hundred so so long ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is I don't think Sonny. This is where we
Speaker 1: take one minute to rail against something in culture. Matt,
Speaker 1: do you have something? I do something? Okay, I I'm
Speaker 1: very glad that we were both locked and loaded. This
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. As time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 2: That tea Pain was put in the Heineken House, which
Speaker 2: had an exclusive cap on it because it's allow put
Speaker 2: tea Pain on a major stage. Yeah, Dave and I
Speaker 2: wanted to be throwing ass at tea Pain. We were
Speaker 2: so excited and then we went over. We actually he
Speaker 2: started playing at the same time during Bleacher's a set.
Speaker 1: We were so mesmerized we didn't pull ourselves away.
Speaker 2: So then we arrived blade to Te Pain, which looked
Speaker 2: like the party. And I don't think so honey, that
Speaker 2: it was in the Heineken House, which is probably a
Speaker 2: lovely house. I'm sure full of laughter and Heineken and enjoyment,
Speaker 2: because everyone came out beaming ear to ear, shaking their
Speaker 2: ass after what T Pain had.
Speaker 1: Done to them.
Speaker 2: But I don't think so honeysact that everyone could see it.
Speaker 1: Put Te Pain on the outdoor stage. Want to buy
Speaker 1: you a drink?
Speaker 2: That's where my voice is at, and it would have
Speaker 2: been even worse had I seen T Pain.
Speaker 1: But I don't think so honey will never know. That's
Speaker 1: one minute. Can we just say, first of all, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry you canno get into the Heineken House. I
Speaker 1: would have loved to see te pain.
Speaker 2: Te Pain is someone who has committed himself to spreading joy.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm dead ass by you and
Speaker 1: drink You're right, and I'm about to be dead ass
Speaker 1: even more by you a drink was one of the
Speaker 1: pieces of culture that made me say cultures. For me,
Speaker 1: there was something about that song going number one and
Speaker 1: being the song of the summer two thousand and six seven.
Speaker 1: I want to say, yep, where I was like, I
Speaker 1: am tapped into the culture here. I'm loving this as
Speaker 1: much as everyone else is. I'm going to dance to
Speaker 1: this at the Chinese School Sunday with the Chinese School
Speaker 1: Sunday crowd. I'm gonna, guess shake my ass to this.
Speaker 1: At homecoming, I'm gonna shake my ass to this with
Speaker 1: the straight kids, the gay kids, everyone in between, and.
Speaker 2: Ongoing forever because guess what in the year of Our
Speaker 2: Lord twenty twenty four that Heindeken House was packed.
Speaker 1: It surprises me not at all that that was the
Speaker 1: place to be at Coachella.
Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately it was at the same time as Bleachers,
Speaker 2: which was the simultaneous place to be and so.
Speaker 1: We love bleachers. Keep pain though. Te pain is something
Speaker 1: very very special. Oh yeah, and I don't mean this
Speaker 1: with an ounce of irony. I love a tea pain.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm you're in tears. You're in tears. Bowen is
Speaker 2: actually about to cry.
Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about Conan all over again. Tea Pain
Speaker 1: and Conan do share that though like smart people who
Speaker 1: want to spread joy. I'm serious. No, listen, if I
Speaker 1: could have snuck into the Heineken house, I would have.
Speaker 1: Heinnegan is getting a lot of play on the episode,
Speaker 1: So I should also say thank you Absolute. You were
Speaker 1: an amazing to go with. Absolute. You have a deep.
Speaker 2: Love from Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Thank you for
Speaker 2: everything you've done for us and for the world and
Speaker 2: for the drinking community. Absolute Vodka, Bowenyang, you have your
Speaker 2: I don't think so money, ready to locked, it loaded
Speaker 2: and ready to go. Yes, okay, period, this is Bowen
Speaker 2: Yang's I don't think so honey. As time starts now,
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Me being mentioned and all the Doctor Diloman news that
Speaker 1: has just been announced at CinemaCon that the great inimitable
Speaker 1: Peter Dinklage will be joining us as our Dilamand I
Speaker 1: had to sit on that news for a while and
Speaker 1: the best I could do was go on watch What
Speaker 1: Happens Live and say, so far Dilomand is an amazing
Speaker 1: puppet teer named Louis so who was incredible on set
Speaker 1: and was on little crutches getting into goat position, goat ponzer,
Speaker 1: going into the goat lilt and the goat timber and
Speaker 1: doing Diloman's lines and being a fucking pro at it.
Speaker 1: I could not reveal it. I was Peter Dnklige. Maybe
Speaker 1: we were still casting for the par I say we
Speaker 1: as if I was involved in that process fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2: Also, I don't think so. Honey, Anti Cohen, what what
Speaker 2: is your deal with doctor Dilomand anyway, why do you
Speaker 2: hate Diloman so much because he s a goat? Feels
Speaker 2: kind of weird to me? What's your deal with goats?
Speaker 2: Goats our gorgeous, peaceful creatures that might be allowed every
Speaker 2: now and then but are ultimately very important to the
Speaker 2: agricultural world. And that's one minute. One thing I know
Speaker 2: about Andy Cohen is he's a speciesist. Yeah, that tracks,
Speaker 2: He's a species He's a speciesist. He's a huge speciesus.
Speaker 2: He thinks that humans are just better. That is, we
Speaker 2: all know that is a not true. Shaking my head
Speaker 2: out s m d h smdh. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: Peter Tinkleich's performance. Did you always know? No, it was
Speaker 2: truly just Louisa. I think Peter Will be an absolute
Speaker 2: joy to listen to as the goat Will.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like God, I never want to do
Speaker 1: an interview ever again or be asked about anything, because
Speaker 1: all I said was we had a puppeteer. She was amazing.
Speaker 1: Then people ran that story and said it's going to
Speaker 1: be played by a woman. Not true.
Speaker 2: And then people ran with that story and the fucking
Speaker 2: queer scuttle butt from that point on was it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a Dina. Why would it make any sense for
Speaker 2: a Dina. No, you guys are that's the queer scuttle
Speaker 2: but gone awry, the queer scuttle butt on that one,
Speaker 2: and it often doesn't. I want to say, I want
Speaker 2: to I'm not commenting on anything, but if there was
Speaker 2: any queer scuttle butt news about me, none of that was. Oh,
Speaker 2: let's just address that queer scuttle butt from me right now.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. Some of these people out there
Speaker 1: who are acting up better stop. That's it.
Speaker 2: There you go, and we're not talking to you, the
Speaker 2: Lana gays. We just want to reinforce that we want
Speaker 2: to be with you, we want we love you, We
Speaker 2: respect you, We acknowledge your hard yards, your years of dedication.
Speaker 1: We are but neo fights, We are but neophytes.
Speaker 2: Well, this was the queer scuttle butt as of this
Speaker 2: week on Talking Biden, and it's important that US queer
Speaker 2: voice is really ray up at this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and disclaimer, we are not talking Biden. That is
Speaker 1: just a fun pseudo era that we're in right now.
Speaker 1: That is not real. Yeah, that's not real.
Speaker 2: I think the podcast will stay lost culture is this
Speaker 2: for years to come, And that is something that I'm
Speaker 2: galvanized about as we head towards I don't even know
Speaker 2: what it is our four hundred and tenth, eleventh twelfth episode.
Speaker 2: We could be at four hundred and sixty six. We
Speaker 2: truly stopped counting our producers and us individually, and you know,
Speaker 2: Head of Content Hans, we literally all have a different number.
Speaker 1: What we think it is. That's an interesting.
Speaker 2: Phenomenon, that's a very interesting. So it's sort of becoming
Speaker 2: a thing of the four hundredth episode will sort of
Speaker 2: just drop one day and it will be beautiful, and
Speaker 2: it will be plentiful.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean not since the Bible has there been
Speaker 1: so many differing accounts in points of view of the
Speaker 1: same story. The story is four hundredth episode. One person's Matthew,
Speaker 1: one person's John, one person's Luke.
Speaker 2: I don't know what, and they never could get it together.
Speaker 2: Those disciples, they never could get it together. It's actually
Speaker 2: a real culture number eight. Those disciples, they can never
Speaker 2: get to get it together.
Speaker 1: We end every episode with the song It's You. It's
Speaker 1: You well will You?
Speaker 2: You can sort of sing it like Gaga and it
Speaker 2: works everything I knew.
Speaker 1: I tell you all the time. Heaven has a place
Speaker 1: on will You. It's sort of giving a million reasons
Speaker 1: we did. We talk about the Joker two trailer next time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was good Bye Bye,