WEBVTT - Ep. 8: Quit Gaping at my Gar

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<v Speaker 1>The lake brace was being used as a different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of brace, right, so, and they were like waiters down

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<v Speaker 1>around ankles and that sort of thing going on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like getting insulted by Mr Rogers. Just because God didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give you a brain doesn't mean you're not special and unique.

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<v Speaker 1>I made some poor footwear choices, but you shouldn't bring

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<v Speaker 1>snake boots, so you will now be able to scream, rolls,

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<v Speaker 1>UFC fights, reruns of Dog the Bounding Hunter, and porn

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<v Speaker 1>Hump from anywhere on the property. Good morning, degenerate anglers.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bent the Fishing podcast. A recent study found

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<v Speaker 1>is best consumed while sitting in a lawn chair. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Surmelie Miles Nulty, and before we get to the

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<v Speaker 1>actual show, I just want to say that I freaking

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<v Speaker 1>love fishing in October. Yeah, rock October so good. But

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<v Speaker 1>unlike you, I especially loved camping and fishing in October

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<v Speaker 1>because like everybody's gone, it's quiet. There's just like a

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<v Speaker 1>little frost on everything. In the morning, the fishing is

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<v Speaker 1>usually good, but even if it isn't, there's still enough

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<v Speaker 1>like chill to the air that you can justify pulling

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<v Speaker 1>out a flask because you're not day drinking. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just staying warm. You're being responsible, right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also I also recently discovered coffee bags from Black Rifle Coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>which I had never known about before. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>tea bag, except you don't have to be British or

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<v Speaker 1>over the age of seventy to enjoy one. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>perfect for making a hot cup of coffee, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're waiting at camp for the sundrise or the

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<v Speaker 1>fish to bite, or or you just need like a

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<v Speaker 1>quick warm up and a recharge. They're awesome, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>had never known about them, coffee bags. They're sweet, British

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<v Speaker 1>or over the age of seventy. Yeah, uh yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>in case you guys missed it, the Bend podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>fueled by Black Rifle Coffee and uh. As Miles suggested,

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<v Speaker 1>camping is not really my jam, though, those will come

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<v Speaker 1>in handy the next time I'm staying in a motel

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<v Speaker 1>with rooms that can be rented by the hour of

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<v Speaker 1>the week, would I'll take that over a tent. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's usually where I end up when I'm on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd rather not. I try to avoid the expired

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<v Speaker 1>coffee packets sitting next to the tiny lime crusted coffee

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<v Speaker 1>pot by the hair dry I'm talking about, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know them well. So if you like good coffee like

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<v Speaker 1>we do, head over to Black Rifle Coffee dot com

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<v Speaker 1>backslash meat Eater and sign up for their monthly coffee

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<v Speaker 1>delivery service. So if you ever oversleep and rush to

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<v Speaker 1>that next Zoom meeting, you can always just pop a

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<v Speaker 1>bag in your mouth and brew internally bitter while you're there.

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<v Speaker 1>Over at Black Rifle Coffee, enter the discount code meat

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<v Speaker 1>Eater at checkout and they will take off your first order,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty good deal. And you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the subject coffee here, Joe, I got a little

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<v Speaker 1>fun fact for you. Shoot, you know that Canada drinks

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<v Speaker 1>more coffee per capita than almost any other country in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Okay, true, Canadians average more than a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty two leaders per person per year, which the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet told me works out to about forty gallons, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seems like a lot. And that puts them

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<v Speaker 1>third in the world behind the Netherlands. In Finland, for

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<v Speaker 1>all the big coffee chains and ubiquitous hipster cafes that

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<v Speaker 1>feed our addictions to legal uppers and free WiFi. We

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<v Speaker 1>Americans barely crack the top ten. We only come in

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<v Speaker 1>at number nine. Canadians got his beat. Yeah, this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>surprise me at all because there's a Tim Horton's every

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five meters from Canada. This is not shocking. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, Canada, Tim Hortons is overrated. You ever? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you every knew it? Tim Horton's I have I have

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<v Speaker 1>is a little disappointed. They think because you get your

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian bacon, egg and cheese sandwich on a real ceramic dish,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like classier than dunkin Donuts. It's not. I prefer

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer my saucer sandwich served without a smile. And

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, I like to drink my coffee when it's

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<v Speaker 1>handed to me because Tim Horton's holding temperature. I swear

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<v Speaker 1>to god man it's like four thousand degrees celsius. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm in Canada, I get one in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>and hope I'm ready for a pick me up at

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<v Speaker 1>lunch because that's when it's drinkable, you know. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get sued over the hot coffee thing like

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<v Speaker 1>they want over here. Yeah, that's yeah, they yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>they're not so soue happy. That is a plus. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But look, we like to josh arown and have a

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<v Speaker 1>little fun with our neighbors to the north. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to admit, in all seriousness, all of our

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<v Speaker 1>guide friends and lodge owner buddies up there, they're having

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<v Speaker 1>a really rough go of it this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and may well continue to have a rough go

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<v Speaker 1>as as ice fishing season approaches, because, as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>the border between the US and Canada is still closed

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<v Speaker 1>due to the COVID's so we can't visit, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a bummer because I love fishing in Canada, and it

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<v Speaker 1>also means, uh, you know, these guys are experiencing some

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<v Speaker 1>financial hardship, you know, because we can't go. So for

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<v Speaker 1>this week's regional fishing report, we thought we'd you know,

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<v Speaker 1>check in with our buddy and lodge owner Mitch McFly

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<v Speaker 1>all the way out on Spooner's Lake in Alberta, just

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of seeing, you know, how he's been holding

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<v Speaker 1>up through this whole thing either, folks. Mitch McFly here

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<v Speaker 1>with your weekly fishing report from Pickerel Point lodge on

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<v Speaker 1>Alberta's pristine Spooner's Lake. Before I get into the fishing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we sure to hope you and your family are staying

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and happy in these hectic times. Particularly our valued

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<v Speaker 1>guests from the States. We've missed your friendly faces this season.

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<v Speaker 1>It just hasn't been the same around here without seeing

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen dirty and mostly broken down cooler stacked outside the

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<v Speaker 1>doors of our acquaint cottages, or getting those morning calls

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<v Speaker 1>in the office asking for someone to please bring over

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<v Speaker 1>a plunger. Anyways, quick bit of housekeeping. Some of our

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<v Speaker 1>repeat guests may remember, Old Gusts are a long time

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<v Speaker 1>boat mechanic. We've unfortunately had to lay Old Gusts off

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<v Speaker 1>for the season because, wouldn't you know it, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a single lodge boat blower right past the shallow

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<v Speaker 1>water marker boys and run up on the rocks at

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson's Cove. Without the constant inflow of props to refurbish

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<v Speaker 1>and lower units to restore, we just couldn't keep Gus busy,

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<v Speaker 1>so we sent him home. He has a good sport

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<v Speaker 1>about it, though, and happy to spend a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more time on his true passion carving small wooden bears

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<v Speaker 1>and moose. Hope to have a pyleum for sale in

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<v Speaker 1>the gift shop next season. Okay, then, I am happy

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<v Speaker 1>to announce that the Walleye byte has been better than

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen it in probably twenty years. Some folks

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<v Speaker 1>around here say it's due to the lack of fishing pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's because the local anglers go a

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<v Speaker 1>little slower. We tend to favor a more methodical approach

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<v Speaker 1>instead of that fast, ratic, circular trolling pattern I know

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<v Speaker 1>most of you boys from the States rely on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I always tell you, fellows, the hours of eleven

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<v Speaker 1>am to four thirty PM are not not exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>i'd call prime time, but you can still find at

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<v Speaker 1>least a few polite fish to bite in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. You know they are a Canadian he Surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>I've caught quite a few forty pike right off the

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<v Speaker 1>docks this year. I've had a little more time to

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<v Speaker 1>do some fishing in the evenings because there aren't the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to forty crushed bud light can strewn about the

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<v Speaker 1>property that need rounding up for proper disposal in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the many many conveniently placed recycling bins. We have

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<v Speaker 1>on site. A five A diamond spoon has been producing

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<v Speaker 1>really well for me, and I found it quite relaxing

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<v Speaker 1>and therapeutic to just cast in reel while I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the call of the loons, which aren't completely drowned

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<v Speaker 1>out by kid rock and that chicken fried song blasting

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<v Speaker 1>from the picnic tables over at the boat house. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>also like to mention that, on the bright side, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to spend time improving our operation and beautiful facilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on your feedback, We've loaded up on Mrs butter

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<v Speaker 1>Worse and will only serve what you folks refer to

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<v Speaker 1>as that maple sap shit upon request, all of our

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<v Speaker 1>bag lunches will now include three packets of mayonnaise instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the usual one. And most importantly, we've upgraded our

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<v Speaker 1>WiFi so you will now be able to stream those

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<v Speaker 1>UFC fights, reruns of Dog the Bounty Hunter, and porn

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<v Speaker 1>Hub from anywhere on the property. Anything we can do

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<v Speaker 1>to make your stay here more comfortable, we just uh

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to have you folks back. We pray that

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<v Speaker 1>you can return to the serene beauty of Alberta by

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<v Speaker 1>three or at the very latest, thanks and God bless

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<v Speaker 1>Canadians are so good at polite insults. It's like an

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<v Speaker 1>art form up there, man. You know, the Japanese have kabuki,

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<v Speaker 1>the French have impressionistic painting, Americans have monster truck rallies,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Canadians can tell you you're an a hole

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<v Speaker 1>without you even knowing. Now, you're right, You're right, man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like getting insulted by Mr Rogers. Just because God

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give you a brain doesn't mean you're not special

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<v Speaker 1>and unique. And look, no, I cannot tell the story

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. Remind me to tell you later about

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<v Speaker 1>an epic anti Canadian rant I heard delivered on a

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<v Speaker 1>boat by a Floridian. Of course, of course didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>the guy he was ranting too was from Canada, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and dude, it was nasty and and the poor guys

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<v Speaker 1>follow up in in polite Canadian fashion, was simply, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually Canadian and he just lefted it that and both

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<v Speaker 1>dudes walked away stunned, and and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>lake trout fishing was really freaking awkward. Um, anyway, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know where I'm from? We come out of

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<v Speaker 1>the womb insulting the doctor out here. Yeah, and which

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<v Speaker 1>is It's interesting Like when I was the time that

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<v Speaker 1>I've spent out East, I've always amazed at how much

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<v Speaker 1>the insults can jack up and jack up and jack up,

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<v Speaker 1>and like nothing comes of it. Because where I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in Hawaii, like we we rarely get to the

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<v Speaker 1>insult stage before people are already getting punched in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all like Hawaii, it's like, oh, hey, what's up,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? And you're already getting punched Like it's just over.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, I think I think Canadians have the

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<v Speaker 1>right idea and that we could we all learn a

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<v Speaker 1>little something from them. But uh, you know, since we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the subject of insults and insulting people, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's time for for us to switch over to

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<v Speaker 1>this week's smooth moves. Indeed it is, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a special one for me personally. I actually recorded this

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months back when I was on my

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<v Speaker 1>annual Upper Delaware River mousing trip with some of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite fishing buds up there, and I've I've been going

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<v Speaker 1>up there every year just to fish at night for

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<v Speaker 1>about six years now. And when I'm there I always

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<v Speaker 1>meet up with my good friend and the owner of

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<v Speaker 1>White Tail Country fly Shop, Joe Demo Daris, and Joe

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<v Speaker 1>has a hot, sticky, steamy story for us this week,

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<v Speaker 1>why why, oh my god, this week on Smooth Moves,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy to be sitting here with my my,

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<v Speaker 1>my old friend, my dear friend, Joe Dimldaris, who I

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<v Speaker 1>would consider the grand pubab the Upper Delaware. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that? Oh no, okay, well I'm saying you're

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<v Speaker 1>the godfather of this, Teff. We're actually sitting in Joe's

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<v Speaker 1>guide shack up here on the river, so it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to do an on location with you. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite places. Um, and remind us all how

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<v Speaker 1>many years guiding you have, uh like three decades? Three decades?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you told me before we started this that

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<v Speaker 1>you actually blocked out a lot of things that would

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<v Speaker 1>have probably made good smooth moves. Uh yeah, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's there's a slew. I'm not gonna on

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<v Speaker 1>for hours if I start really like lett him come

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<v Speaker 1>back to my brain. But um, you know some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things you just never want to like, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you don't remember him. Okay, but you do have one

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<v Speaker 1>on the tip of the brain for for today. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>well I'll give you the Yeah, I'll give you the

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<v Speaker 1>like the most bizarre one. Okay, okay, okay, So, um

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<v Speaker 1>end the night's pitch black coming out at this like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of remote ish makeshift boat launch. Um, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>kind of walk a few hundred yards to go get

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<v Speaker 1>your vehicle, so, you know, let the anchor out. Got

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<v Speaker 1>a newly wet couple, kind of kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>senior citizen, newly wete couple. You know. They weren't like

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<v Speaker 1>young kids. They were like sixty. She was like maybe forty,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was. He was in the sixties, retired guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, he was in the back. She's in the front.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the spot and I'm gonna pull out, put the

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<v Speaker 1>anchor down. I said, just hank tight. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a little while and gonna walk up, come back, and

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get out of the boat because just stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, I go get my truck. I come driving

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<v Speaker 1>back down through the woods and my boat's gone. And

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<v Speaker 1>I left the light for him too, because it's really dark.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had a little like thinky like this take

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<v Speaker 1>out with your exactly no light and it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>hike up to get where your trucks. So come back

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<v Speaker 1>with my truck. It's like no boat. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>down river and just on the last bend as are

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<v Speaker 1>down as I could see the little lights starting to

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<v Speaker 1>vanish going down the river. I'm like, oh crap, So

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<v Speaker 1>this was a long time ago. So I run down

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<v Speaker 1>the bank. I grab a flashlight ahead of my truck.

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<v Speaker 1>I run down the bank, got this light going, and

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<v Speaker 1>I catch up to the boat. They're totally oblivious. I'm yelling.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even hear me, right, and they're totally oblivious

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<v Speaker 1>because he had gotten out of the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>boat went up to the bow, so it shifted the

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<v Speaker 1>weight and then shifted the weight and lifted the anchor.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have like a lot of scope out because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that wasn't supposed to happen, right, Like, stay

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<v Speaker 1>at the boat and if it starts floating away, you

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<v Speaker 1>think you notice. But there was a big preoccupation that

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<v Speaker 1>was happening that they didn't notice. They were floating away

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. And that's because it's like the leg

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<v Speaker 1>brace was being used as a different kind of brace, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So and they were like waiters down around ankles and

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing going on, and they were totally oblivious.

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<v Speaker 1>She was absolutely mortified. He he actually didn't even like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big deal. Okay, wait, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're banging. I'll just say that's what they're doing. Exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. How far out in the like, were

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<v Speaker 1>they still close to the bank or did they like

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<v Speaker 1>the way out in the middle. Well, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>really the river's wide, but it's not really deep. Maybe uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe fifty yards out, forty yards out, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I go sloshing out and this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was probably my late thirties early forties when

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<v Speaker 1>this happened. I mean today I would have just laid, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there goes the boat. I'll just go get my truck

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<v Speaker 1>and meet him at the next take out. But but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I grabbed the boat and I dragged

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<v Speaker 1>it all the way back up river. You know that.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's like, well, I'll get out and help you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, now, just stay there, don't move. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you waited out and walked up on the boat where

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<v Speaker 1>they still like like mid mid koitis, No, because when

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<v Speaker 1>I hit him with this big like flashlight I had

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<v Speaker 1>in a truck and that got that got her attention, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, you know and like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cut everything off. So, um, did you guys talk about it? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sort of not really. I don't remember telling

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<v Speaker 1>you the truth because now I had to hump the

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<v Speaker 1>boat back up carminum it. You know, it's like this

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<v Speaker 1>really stinks, um, And and I really kind of felt

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for her. She was mortified. She really was really

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<v Speaker 1>really embarrassed, and he wasn't, you know, which was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like really odd. So I could tell that was

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<v Speaker 1>making her more embarrassed, you know, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad for her. But um, yeah, it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of odd. And uh, I never did see

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<v Speaker 1>them again, So I don't know if they stayed married

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<v Speaker 1>or not or whatever. I don't really worry about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless him. What a story for later though, that

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<v Speaker 1>dude still telling that story. Um yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably I think I told my wife the story too,

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<v Speaker 1>and tried to get her up in the front of

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<v Speaker 1>the boat one night jump she wasn't manage. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>a new one, I mean, man, Like I've heard of

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<v Speaker 1>clients sneaking off for a little alone time. I've had that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've I've heard of anchors slipping and guides losing

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<v Speaker 1>their boats. I've seen that, But I have never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of clients copulating so hard that they actually pull the anchor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a new one for me. When you're in the mood,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the mood. Momos, momos. That's a word we

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<v Speaker 1>like to use around here for people that execute those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of screwups. Moms. Yeah, we don't, we don't use

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<v Speaker 1>that one out here. I know we have learned that

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<v Speaker 1>all of you out there listen to podcasts, at least

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you, are big fans of shall we

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<v Speaker 1>call them derogatory words for you, guys love insults, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we love you, because you're all just about

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<v Speaker 1>insulting people. So we're we're bringing it up. We're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>up that that theme back at least for one more week. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And here in the Mountain West, we have our own

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<v Speaker 1>derogatory word for people from elsewhere, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>define that for you in this week's weekly word. Webster's

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<v Speaker 1>Dictionary defines fish as this week's word is gaper. A

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<v Speaker 1>while back, Joe gave you the definition from up here,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what people in northwest Pennsylvania call city folk

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<v Speaker 1>from Philly who come up here for the weekend to fish. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The East doesn't have a lock on derogatory terms for tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>One Mountain West sler for flint Landers is gaper, as

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<v Speaker 1>in someone so dumb struck by the scale of topography

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<v Speaker 1>and beauty they're seeing they just stand there with their

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<v Speaker 1>mouth agape, usually stopping traffic, holding up a lift line,

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<v Speaker 1>or blocking a boat ramp. This term comes from ski

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<v Speaker 1>culture but has been thoroughly adopted into the fishing scene.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first moved out to Montana nearly twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>now I was a complete gaper. I was so constantly

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<v Speaker 1>in awe of everything around me that I spent a

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<v Speaker 1>good thirty percent of my time in a mouth breathing trance.

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<v Speaker 1>I was such a gaper that I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what that word meant, so when people called me a gaper,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know enough to lies they were making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of me. He doesn't even know. I was officially christened

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<v Speaker 1>with the nickname Gaper on a backcountry fishing trip with

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<v Speaker 1>my good friend Matt Dally We had spent most of

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<v Speaker 1>the day hiking deep into a box canyon, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we finally got to our riverside campsite, the pool in

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<v Speaker 1>front of us was boiling with rising trout, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest I had ever seen at that point in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. While Daly said about doing what a seasoned

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<v Speaker 1>fisherman would do, you know, calmly assembling his rod, building

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<v Speaker 1>his leader, and tying on the appropriate fly, I just

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<v Speaker 1>stood there, dumbfounded, staring at this horde of trout, sipping

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<v Speaker 1>mayflies off the surface. Once Dally had finished rigging, slipped

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<v Speaker 1>into his waiters and laced up his boots, he passed

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<v Speaker 1>behind me and half yelled Cape Cape, Cape Cape on

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<v Speaker 1>his way to the pool that broke my reverie. And

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<v Speaker 1>when he immediately hooked a fish, I started scrambling to

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<v Speaker 1>put together my own gear to solidify my status as

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<v Speaker 1>a gaper. I hurried through the rigging and tied a

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<v Speaker 1>few let's call him questionable knots. When I finally did

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<v Speaker 1>start fishing, I somehow hooked the biggest fish in the pool,

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<v Speaker 1>which broke me off on the first run. When my

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<v Speaker 1>blood not failed, the nickname followed me even after I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped gaping my way through every Montana season, and I

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<v Speaker 1>eventually just had to embrace it to this day. Every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while, when I'm floating a local river

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<v Speaker 1>or riding on a local ski hill, I'll hear someone

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<v Speaker 1>yell out. I'll stop and look around trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out if an acquaintance from the distant past has just

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<v Speaker 1>recognized me, or there's some random coop in the near

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<v Speaker 1>vicinity eliciting wrath from a local. So we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of gapers out here in the Northeast though.

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<v Speaker 1>On the radio like FM Old School, during traffic reports,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's an accident on the highway, sometimes they will

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<v Speaker 1>note that there's a gaper delay. They actually call it that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a gaper delay. Gaper delay on that Academy road.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gaping. Yeah, So we just gave it other

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<v Speaker 1>people's misery and bloodshed because they're just there are no mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But regardless, you realize that the tens of

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<v Speaker 1>people listening to this podcast are now going to resurrect

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<v Speaker 1>that nickname for you. Right, you efficiently sealed your fate

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<v Speaker 1>to forever be known as gaper. That's all right, I'm sorry, Gaper,

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<v Speaker 1>I can handle. It's better than being a loser, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what one of us is going to be. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this next segment, it's time for fish news.

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<v Speaker 1>Fish news that escalated quickly. Before we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>meat of fish news, I want to let you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know about the fishing community actually doing some good in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. For once, my buddy Josh Mills harnesses the

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<v Speaker 1>evil of Instagram and leverages it away from the dark side.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh is running an online auction to help out commit

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<v Speaker 1>unities that have been devastated by all the big fires

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<v Speaker 1>out west, called Flies for Fire Relief. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really unique fundraiser. It's completely social media based. All

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<v Speaker 1>the money goes to go fund me pages set up

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<v Speaker 1>to help individuals and communities who have been hammered by

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<v Speaker 1>the fires. And I can personally vouch for this as legit.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't one of those I r S voicemail scams

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<v Speaker 1>that I keep getting threatening me with jail time if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't call them back and give them my social

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<v Speaker 1>Security number. Yeah, what a great concept to use social

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<v Speaker 1>media for something that's actually useful. But they're auctioning off

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<v Speaker 1>rods reels, waiters, boots, guided fishing trips. There's even a

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<v Speaker 1>first light, kemo pattern lamps and fly reel up for auction.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I work at meat Eat and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have one of those, so you know me neither.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm actually gonna be throwing down a dozen custom

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<v Speaker 1>Master Splinter mouse flies that I'll be whipping up on

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<v Speaker 1>the vice. So follow at Mills Fly or follow the

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag flies for Fire Relief so you don't miss it

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<v Speaker 1>when my mouse is pop up for grabs. And so

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<v Speaker 1>far the campaign has already raised more than forty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and they are still going, which is amazing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Now onto the real fish News, which you all remember

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<v Speaker 1>is a competition where Myles and I scour the deepest,

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<v Speaker 1>darkest crevices of the Internet looking for the most interesting

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<v Speaker 1>nuggets of fish or fishing related news. Um neither of

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<v Speaker 1>us has any idea what the other is about to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of it all, if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have been following along, our steamed audio engineer Phil decides

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<v Speaker 1>who wins and who hangs his head in shame. Lately

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<v Speaker 1>that's been me. Miles has been on a hot streak.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm nervous and my confidence is shaken, especially because

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<v Speaker 1>you get to lead off this week. So you should

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<v Speaker 1>be nervous, Joe. You should because I'm starting out this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Read about where I left off last week, which worked

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<v Speaker 1>out well for me. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna revisit

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<v Speaker 1>the invasive carp files. Man. You just love a carp, Man,

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you just suit I do. I actually do. I love

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<v Speaker 1>and hate them. And that's all wrapped up into into

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<v Speaker 1>this package here. Last week I schooled everyone about the

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<v Speaker 1>dangers of feral goldfish. Goldfisher, carp and carp in their

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<v Speaker 1>various forms, are arguably the most destructive aquatic invasive species

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<v Speaker 1>in North America. Well, this week, the state of Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 1>issued its first arrest for the illegal sale of Asian carp.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I get into the details of all that,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I gotta provide a little bit of context.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you will know that, some of you won't,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's important. Asian carp is a catch all term

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<v Speaker 1>that refers to several different carp species, including bighead, silver

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<v Speaker 1>and grass carp. These fish were brought here from China

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixties and seventies for a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different reasons. But as so often happens in these situations,

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<v Speaker 1>they escaped and they invaded local waters and they've been

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<v Speaker 1>spreading ever since. They're now in twenty eight states and

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<v Speaker 1>still going. You've probably seen footage of the thousands of

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 1>silver carp flying out of the water when boats passed

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>by and people like hitting them with clubs and arrows

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. That that's been pretty well, pretty well covered. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And most of that comes from places like the Illinois

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>River that have been just totally overrun by these fish.

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>And just so you guys understand what we're talking about,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>these fish can consume forty percent of their body weight

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>per day in aquatic nutrients, and in some waterways, asian

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>carp now make up more than nine of the total biomass,

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.719
<v Speaker 1>and they just pushed anything else out. Yeah, I mean,

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it's insane. The amount of like ninety of the bio

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of the fish, of all the biomass, everything that lives

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>in a waterway are now asian carp. It's it's mind blowing. Yeah.

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>And I'll just I'll just throw in there, like you

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>used to see a lot of those videos the jumping

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>carp in the bow, fishermen and stuff, and just because

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't see that many anymore, it's not because they've

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>gone away, Like like you said, they are just pushing

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>further and further. You know, up, it's it's it's crazy. Yeah,

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>So all this is just to say that these fish

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>are a huge problem, and like you were saying, Joe,

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>fisheries managers and other people have been fighting their asses

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>off to keep these fish from reaching the Great Lakes

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>because everyone feels like that's that's the major tipping point.

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>If they get there, the Great Lakes are just going

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to crash, and that's what we're all trying to stop.

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So for that reason, it is illegal to transport any

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Asian carpet in Wisconsin unless they have been gutted or

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>had their guilt plates severed. Those stipulations were enacted because

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>these fish can live for like a surprisingly long amount

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of time out of the water. I read some I

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>read different numbers, but but over a day seems to

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>be the consensus. Yeah, there's crazy. There's very similar rules

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.239
<v Speaker 1>out here for snakeheads. Same thing. You can transport them

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>if it's like got its head cut off, because they

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>can breathe there and yeah, same kind of deal. Yeah,

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And I mean what that What that means is like

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 1>a fish might appear dead and it's been riding in

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>a truck for hours, but theoretically it might still be

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>capable of of surviving if it were to somehow get

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>out and escape into a waterway. All right, So back

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to this arrest. Ping Lee is a wholesale fish dealer

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>from Plattsville, Wisconsin, who now faces four misdemeanor counts of

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>possessing illegal fish. Apparently, Mr Lee has been transporting Asian

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>carp from central Illinois to fish markets in Chicago and Madison,

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>sometimes as much as twenty hundred pounds at a time

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>for at least the past three years. Wisconsin d n

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>R has been working on a sting to catch this

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>guy since two thousand eighteen, using undercover agents, covert surveillance,

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and GPS trackers. Suffice to say, Wisconsin is not messing

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>around with the Asian carp thing. And and I applaud

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>those efforts. To have to say, I'm honestly conflicted about

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>this story. I know, I know where you're going, and

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 1>I feel the same way. Yeah, because because like all right,

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the tools for dealing with the Asian carp

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>infestation is through commercial harvest. Gill netters are now making

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good living in many places like Illinois and Tennessee,

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>catching and selling tons and tons and tons of these

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>invasive carp. Ryan Callahan did a great little segment about

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>this on the Mediator YouTube channel that you should definitely

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>check out. And cal actually brought some of the filets

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>from that episode over to my house one night for dinner,

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>and Joe, you were there, I was there. I ate it.

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was delicious. I was shocked. It was

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>like it was it was truly delicious. It was not

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>just tolerable. It was like really really good eating fish.

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the kind of fish that you could feed

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>to people who say they don't really like fish, and

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.160
<v Speaker 1>then you can watch them after they take that first

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>bite and they go, oh, that's actually good. Yeah, And

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:58.479
<v Speaker 1>it isn't that because a lot of these fish they

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>filter feed verse common carpet grubbed the bottom, so people

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>think carp have that mud taste, but that's not the

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>way that these fish feet. It was a super mild,

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>super mild. It wasn't like, oh my god, the flavor

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>of this fish is phenomenal, but it's just a very

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of baseline good white meat fish exactly totally palatable.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And and so my point in all this is that

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>large scale harvest is one of the very few viable

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>tools we have for trying to control these invasive fish.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's something that I think we want to encourage,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 1>not discourage. And harvest only works if it's connected to

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>an effective distribution network. And so that's why this Wisconsin

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>arrest gives me some pause. I mean, it seems like

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>like Mr Lee was clearly in violation of the law.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not arguing that his fish had their viscera and

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>guilt plates intact, but he wasn't transporting live fish. It's

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not like he was smuggling carp into Wisconsin to start

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a fish farm. He was selling thousands and thousands of

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>pounds of Asian carp for meat. That's just it. If

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he's if he has that much demand, he's selling that

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>much fish, then good, then get out there and kill

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>more to keep up with that demand. I mean, the

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>law is the law, you know. I feel like the

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>sting operation, like, couldn't we have gone to him and said,

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like we love what you're doing here, can you just

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you remove all the guilt plates and

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>like just do it the right way. Yeah, And there

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>there may be some things that I don't know about

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>this story, but that's exactly how I feel. And it

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>really seems from everything I could read, and I read

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of news stories on this, it seems like Wisconsin,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Dina is trying to throw the book at this guy,

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think that might be a mistake. Like I think,

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>if we're going to curb the populations of these fish

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>through commercial gill netting, we need fish sellers that are

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>willing to transport them. And I'm worried that this case

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>might make people think twice about getting into the carp

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>selling business. And then you can harvest all you want,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>but if you don't have a market, they don't go anywhere.

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree completely, And it kind of hearkens back to

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>some stories from forget if it was the nineties, but

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>there was a similar problem out here on the East

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Coast with the salmon fisheries. Guys would go over snagged

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>their limit, catch their limit, fill these trucks and run

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>him to sell them in New York City. And the

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>way they stung them was they put black light die

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>in the salmon eggs and then went down to New

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.479
<v Speaker 1>York City and black lit in the sushi restaurants and

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that's how they figured it out. But that's a that's

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a recreational fishery that's bringing a lot of money to town.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I understand the staying and the undercover on that, but

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more man Like, if you have people

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that are making a live and killing thousands of pounds

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>of these fish, just I kind of disagree with the

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>level of book throwing here. Yeah, so that was I'm

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>torn on like, like I said, the guys clearly clearly

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>he broke the law. Not arguing that, but I feel

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like these are the kind of actions we we kind

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of want to support, not this waye and and arresting

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>him seems to have the opposite impact. If he's selling

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that many putting him out of business for this like

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>ruining to the point where he can't operate, that alone

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>leaves how many more Asian carp in the system, potentially

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>just for his suppliers. So well, hey, by all means

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>right in, let us know what you think, because we're

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>torn on that one, and we'd love to hear from you, guys. Ah,

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>this is this is perfect for me because you know

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Asian carp. It's like all Asian carp. You know, a

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>good Asian carp is a dead carp over here. And

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>we look at carp very differently in the US than

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>they do across the pond in the UK. So I

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's gonna hurt my win this week,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>but I do have a bit of an obituary here sadly,

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and this comes to us from the UK Sun. And

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I was stunned and wept when I read this headline.

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>It says not carping on Angling World in mourning as

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Britain's biggest common carp dies aged And I said to myself, God,

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>please tell me they're not talking about Tarka, because I've

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>been following Tarka the carp since it's my space days

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you the truth. But at last my worst fears

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>were realized from the story the Angling World is mourning

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the death of Britain's biggest known common carp. The whopper

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>known as Tarka was aged about and wade sixty five

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>pounds two ounces at its heaviest um. He died from

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>natural causes in his lake at the Avenue Fishery in Shropshire,

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and anglers traveled from far and wide for the chance

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to catch Tarka, and Tarka's owner Rob Hale said there

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.959
<v Speaker 1>were numerous lucky enough anglers to catch him in the

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>past and it has been amazing to follow the magnificent

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>journey of his growth. Targa was introduced to the fishery

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight when he weighed more than

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty pounds, and he was named Tarka after part of

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>his tail was bitten off by an otter and um,

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know why. Maybe Tarka's an

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>old British word for bitten by otter. Anyway, heart heartbroken

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>anglers took the social media to pay tribute. Gary Roberts posted,

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>so sad r I P. Tarca, What an incredible carp

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a legend. Luke Edwards, who caught Tarca when he weighed

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>just under fifty three pounds, said, made me a very

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>very happy angler and many more R I P. Tarka.

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Eric Cranston said this is so sad, unbelievable, stunning fish.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>To lose any fish is upsetting, but the jewel in

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the crown must hit everyone who has caught it and

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>admired it. Um. And I actually have a good friend,

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Nigel Polsford over in the UK. Uh. The guy's utterly

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>devoted to payle carp fishing. And I gave him a

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>call just to see how he was feeling about this

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>tragic news. And here's what he said. No, let me stop, you,

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 1>let let me stop. You destroyed me mental stop. So

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>clearly he was just too distraught to talk about it. Um.

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I hope he cat him on a bed day. You

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>were friends. I don't know if I don't think that

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it was really upset right now, I should have given

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>it a few days. Look, man, I'll say this no

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>disrespect to British carpers, okay, because carping is serious business

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>over there right It generates big dollars. And I love

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>carp too. I think you do too. I've spent a

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of time carping, particularly on the fly, and I

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>admire the passion of these guys that camp out all

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>weekend under a tarp like waiting for a named fish

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to eat a boile and make a screen bivy yea. Um.

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>But I just have to say, and like, pardon me,

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy, Like that's not my best or only option

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>for freshwater fishing. You know what I'm saying. It makes

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>me like I want to say, don't ever take for

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>granted your land access, public lands, ability to hike miles

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of stream and hop guard rails, you know, drop your

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>boat in hundreds of lakes. Yes, you know. And I

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>mean I'm guilty of going on tangents about how they're

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like too many people out here now ruining spots, but

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it could be worse. You know. You can feel that

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>same frustration at a lake you're paying harder and money

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>to fish, trying to catch a carp so fat it

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>can barely swim. So it's like, you know, that's what

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you got. I think it's I think it's it's very

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>difficult to judge European carp fishing by American standards, and

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and we run the risk of being those obnoxious American

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>assholes who were looking down our nose, of them being like, oh,

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>those stupid Brits and their course fishing. I don't want

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to be that guy. I don't, but I am fascinated

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>by the carp fishing scene kind of the same way

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>that I'm fascinated by the tournament bass angling scene here.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not something I want to do, but again, sociologically, god,

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to me. I couldn't agree more. And and

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>again I'm we're only having some fun here. I've actually

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>done the eurocarp thing. I had a button got Yeah,

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>he got very into it here in the States, and

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>he had all the stuff, all the button no no bivvy,

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>we had no tents, but all the bite alarms. You know.

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>He would show up and bait the swim and all

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And uh caught some some giant carp doing that.

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>But I almost, you know, I almost feel bad because

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>these guys are so into it on these lakes where

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>these fish are just pounded and pounded and pounded. And

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I've I've heard European guys say that usually they don't

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>fight very well, right, because they've been caught a bunch

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of times. Right, And then you come to the States

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and they catch a wild river carp or something here,

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, holy shit, you know, they fight these

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>wild fish here fight so much more. So, you know,

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it's almost surprising that we're not like Destiny travel destination

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>number one for this because you can go wherever the

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>hell you want. There's carpet everywhere. They're probably a lot

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>dumber than the carp over there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean it just it just also is emblematic of

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the different attitudes there and here about carp right here.

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>People go out with bows and whack as many carpets

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>as possibly can and kill them, and they're they're seeing

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>a nuisance. We hate them over there. One carp dies

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and it makes national news right that they're so revered.

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's I think that's a pretty good

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>way of kind of framing how are different culture fishing

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>cultures look at carp right there? Well, what the story said,

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't drop this down, so I hope I'm

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>not wrong, but I believe that it said that as

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>big as Tarka was, it couldn't become a record fish

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>because common carper not native there either. They only count

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the mirror carp in record standing. Huh, well, no carper

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>native there. I don't want we're gonna get into a

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>rabbit hole there. Let's not. Let's not go too far

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>down that hole. But I mean you did sort of

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 1>team me up there for my next story, Joe, because

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>we're we're we're not on the happiest of news today,

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not I'm gonna kind of stick with not

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the happiest of news. Uh. I'm also gonna stick at

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>least from my angle here with the angle of commercial fishing.

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the commercial fishing theme this week, okay, And honestly, man,

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to find and a sliver of hope in

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>all the news we read about crashing marine stocks and

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>not great. But one of the many issues that marine

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>fisheries face is illegal, unregulated catch. International harvest regulations are

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>like super super complicated and contentious, and I am not

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>going to dive into all that here because we don't

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>have time, but just to quickly and vastly oversimplify, a

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>U N treaty does exist between sixty six countries and

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the European Union regulating marine harvest at theoretically sustainable levels. Unfortunately,

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>lots of fleets continue to operate illegally. Policing those fleets

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>across global oceans just it's it's not feasible. There's there's

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>too much water out there, Like, we can't police all

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the oceans. So one of the other ideas for curbing

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>this destruction is to find ways of preventing the illegal

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>fish from getting to the markets. Right, If the illicit

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>fishermen can't sell their catch, they won't keep fishing illegally.

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Makes sense, yeah, right, But monitoring all the boats coming

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.399
<v Speaker 1>into international ports is also like a herculean task. So

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the folks at Pew Charitable Trusts just developed a new

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>interactive tool to help port authorities and seafood buyers determine

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>where illegal seafood is most likely to enter the markets.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>The tool uses data from automatic information systems, which are

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>those electronic things that are on all boats now, and

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>it focuses on the top nine global ports that receive

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the highest level of traffic from foreign vessels. But the

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>thing is, like, there's my good news thing. But the

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>thing is, this is just a tool that ports and

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>seafood buyers can use if they choose to the existence

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of this time. There's no autation. This just came out right.

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Just having this tool doesn't do anything to curb or

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>this way to illegal seafood trade, which currently brings in

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 1>over twenty three billion dollars a year. Like, you're fighting

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>up a lot of money there, I believe it. Yea.

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And in order for this to actually have any impact,

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the ports and the fish wholesalers need to use this information.

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 1>They've got to actually turn away illegal vessels or refuse

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to buy their catch. And whether or not that happens,

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, it remains to be seen. My take is

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that this is a step in the right direction. It's

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not a solution, but I appreciate that this tool exists,

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and I hope people will start to implement some policies

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>around it. But for my part, I just try to

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>know as much about the origins of the fish I

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 1>eat as possible. Preferably I are somebody I know catches it.

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Any fish I buy it a store is probably contributing

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to the problem, even if the packaging says wild cat.

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>But that said still better than farm fish. So you

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>know about all I can do. And I mean, dude,

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we could. Books have been written on the we can

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>we can? You can get so lost in this debate

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and all the different different angles, and it is a

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>great tool, and it is a step in the right direction.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>But if you if you step I can look at

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 1>commercial fishing as a whole. It's just it just reeks

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>of like a CAMAFIA operation. To me, it always has

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's what's so hard to penetrate. Like if you're

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>not getting your fish for your restaurants more reputable source,

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>but the price is right, it's like getting that many

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>people to do the right thing. It really feels it

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>feels impossible. It feels like almost impossible. Um. I'm not

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>willing to go impossible, but I will say it's it's hard.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>And I like to when when I can think better,

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 1>if people maybe having access to this tool, some some

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of the bigger seafood buyers and wholesalers and some of

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the big reports will we'll use it. We'll see. I

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be I want to be positive today, Joe.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>That's where I want to go. Well, I mean, the

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>technology has to exist for anybody to use it at all,

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So so we will see. And I think, you know,

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I think there are a lot of operations out there

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that really do care about sustainable and care about wild caught.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>But um, you know, I guess it all depends on

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the volume and and what you need. It's just seems

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>like such a tangled web. Know, and then if you

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>start looking how this parlays into recreational fishing, it's a

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>whole other rabbit hole. You know. I've heard organizations talk

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>about recreational fluke limits as an example, but then they'll say, well,

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>we don't have a good way to monitor the guys

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>dragging for them. So it seems to me like until

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a good way to monitor that and know

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing with those fish, it's much harder to

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>come down on the recreational guys. Like it's just the

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>whole commercial scene. Man, it's just so it's so twisted. Yep,

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a hard one to balance out. And

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>this is we're I mean, this is one kind of

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>little story in a much bigger thing. Like you said,

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 1>books have been written about it. But I'm hoping, I'm

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 1>hoping we get something potentially positive out of this tool. Anyway, Well,

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>let's what we're gonna We're gonna keep moving on in

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a positive direction. Even though I think this here's another

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>story with the dead fish. I mean that just seems

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 1>like we're just all we're all about dead fish today.

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>We're all about fish death, uh in this in this

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>news segment. But it's a feel good story even though

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>there is death and Um, we actually first got tipped

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>off to this one by listener Taylor Riggan. And uh,

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of sources out there. The one I'm

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>pulling from here is from inforum dot com and the

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>headline is Iowa man catches near record Minnesota muskie an

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>unexpected place. So it goes a little something like this.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It starts out the fish was so big. Brandon Gratick

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>claims to have lost control of his bodily functions the

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>first time he saw it. And here's a quote. It

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>jumped one time. When he jumped, I saw him comma

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I in parentheses defecated. So we're gonna assume he said

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>ship to the journalist. So when I saw him my ship,

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I literally did, he says, I really hope. That's one

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of the misuses of literal, like when people say literally

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:46.879
<v Speaker 1>but mean figuratively. Anyway, Yeah, I'm with you. So. Uh.

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>The Iowa City, Iowa truck driver might have been exaggerating

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>about his reaction to seeing his fish of a lifetime,

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>but there is no need to exaggerate about the fish itself.

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Gratic landed a fifty two pound, fifty seven inch musk

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>along and this was at the end of August from

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Straight Lake in Becker County near O s Age, Minnesota,

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and he was there on vacation. And this beast had

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a twenty five in girth, So that's a that's a

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>massive musk. But there's there's a lot of interesting things

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>going on with his story. Um, so he did keep

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the whopper, which died while in possession. It appears to

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 1>be the Minnesota record for a non released muskie, and

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>its measurements were within fractions of the state's catch and

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>release mark. But here's here's where it starts to get interesting. Right, Um,

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>there have never been any muskies stocked in Straight Lake,

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>nor according to Minnesota DNR, have they ever gotten any

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>in net studies in Straight Lake. And uh, what they

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>say is that they believe that it jumped from a

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>rearing pond located across the highway across thirty four from

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the lake. It jumped anyway, I'm gonna leave out go ahead, Yeah,

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. I don't think they're necessarily saying

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it jumped, but that's where they figure at some point

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it came from. So some other fun facts, right, the

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>fish hit a two and a half inch long booyah.

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Crank bait that Graddic said he quote grabbed out of

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the bargain bin at Walmart because that, kids, is how

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you catch a big muskie. And I'm not kidding. I

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like a I feel like a broken record. You

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>want to catch a musky target bass and and and

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>cropp ease like this, dude, bin that's so good. Don't

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 1>buy the lure by the two dollar bargain bin. Lure

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>bargain all day. But on a down note, however, because

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Graddick was using super light line and a lighter outfit,

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the fight lasted thirty minutes and it kind of whooped

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the fish, which yeah, I mean that's gonna happen, hap

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>me um. He also didn't have a big enough net,

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>so landing must have been something he apparently squose it into,

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like a little trout sized net. I would love to

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>see that me too, though obviously he did land it,

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>because then, the story says, Graddick wanted to show his

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>family the massive catch, so he called and told them

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to wait on the dock at the resort, about a

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minute boat ride away. The nearly five ft long

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>fish didn't come close to fitting in his live well either,

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>so Graddick just put the muski's head in the water

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and zip back to the dock. Put that whole dog

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and pony show together, and you've got a dead muskie.

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>And while good on you for an amazing catch. As

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, he's been catching some flak over that,

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>though he says, don't worry, I plan to skin mount it.

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Now, as crazy as this whole

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>thing is, this is the piece that that really sticks

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>with me. Um. I can't speak for everywhere, but particularly

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>out here, like in Pennsylvania or I live, there are

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>so many creeks and and warm water rivers and stuff

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that you know, everybody thinks that it's just rock bass

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and small mouth and pick roll and stuff. But at

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 1>certain times a year, because of other trips that come in,

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like if you know where you're going, Like there's

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>some big gas brown trout in this one in December

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>that aren't actually supposed to be there. Like there's all

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>sorts of little secret things like that out here. I

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's the same in Montana, but that's

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>what I think is so cool, you know, because it

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.320
<v Speaker 1>makes me wonder, did somebody else know there's some muskies

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>in Straight Lake, you know, and for years have been like, no,

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>there's not don't fish here, No, there's not. You know

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.720
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I think that's I do. I do too,

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, it's one of those ones like

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I get why people are upset. That's poor fish handling,

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and the muskie community in particular gets way way serious

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>about that stuff. So I'm you're not gonna I'm not

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna weigh on that. But if you're talking about a place,

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not like we're talking about Malax or Lake Saint

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Clair or Green Bay or one of those fisheries where

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>muski hunters go to target their fish and those they

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>want to have them there. It wasn't even supposed to

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 1>be there. So I think that that has to be

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>part of the conversation when you're weighing all this. You know,

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not an optimal example of how you

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.760
<v Speaker 1>should handle the fish, but that happens sometimes. It's fishing,

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's it's it's a little hard to

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>blame the dude, right because the Minnesota record has stood

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 1>since nineteen fifty seven from like Winnebagosh. So if that

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>ends up taking it, man, how ironic is it in

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the Land of ten Thousand Lakes? It comes from the

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.800
<v Speaker 1>one that's not supposed to have them, you know what

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean? The irony in that is terrific. So maybe

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll have some follow up on this one, you know,

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>see it, see if he gets qualified. But yeah, he

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna forget that one. So alright, Phil, you gotta

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you got a tough one this week. Man. Do you

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>want to go with the lighthearted fun fish catching stories

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and fish dying stories? Are you gonna go with like

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the serious fisheries ecological level stories? What are you? What

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna pick? Buddy? We're all waiting with bated

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>breath to find out. Did Miles Nulty bring in the

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>most pressing fish stories this week? Yes? But did he

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>bring in the most interesting fish stories this week? Also? Yes?

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Despite that, however, in memory of Tarka, I am crowding

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Joe Surmeli the winner. Joe, thank you for your tribute

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to legendary size kings this week. This does not mean, however,

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I want Fish News to turn into an awards show.

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>In Memoriam Reel, people will expect us to get Selene

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Dion to sing Hollylujah over some black and white photos

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>of dead fish. And we do not have Selene Dion

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>in the budget. Maybe Sarah McLaughlin though. Anyway, all this

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>death and sadness, I could use a stiff drink. I

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know about you. But instead of instead of hitting

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the the local corner bar, which would be easy, let's uh,

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>let's head to Australia for this week's That's My Bar.

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Best god damn bar tender from tim Buck to to Portland,

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:52.479
<v Speaker 1>Maine the Portland argument for that matter. This week on

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>That's My Bar, we're taking a really long imaginary flight

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to a place I'm not sure I'll ever be able

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to actually afford to fish. This may be as close

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>as I ever get. But I must say it's cool

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 1>to have a bar nomination from freaking Victoria, Australia. Right

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>we Yes, we said we wanted to hear about bars

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>all around the world, and listener Josh Carpenter delivered with

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:19.439
<v Speaker 1>this gem. Okay, and Josh writes, when you talked about

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the best fishing bars in the world, I immediately thought

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of the Bem River Hotel in East Gippsland area of Australia.

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>The entire township has a total of two stores, the

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Bem River Hotel and a tackle shop. Why do I

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 1>not live there? Um, he says, that's the kind of

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>place it is. The Bem River Hotel comes with all

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the startup requisites for a fishing bar, forty year old carpet,

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>dusty skin mounts on every wall, a large stainless steel

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 1>trough instead of urinals, a golden retriever that has warner

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>groove into the floor laying next to the door, and

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>monochrome photos of two men standing next to a hundred

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>dead fish on the ground from the good old days.

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>But if that's not enough, Okay, there's more. There is more.

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm already sold man, you retriever on the floor, he says.

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 1>What makes the place really special, though, is that whenever

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>fishing tournaments come through town, they will extend trading hours

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and employ extra local people to accommodate the anglers. They

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 1>will cook bacon and egg rolls and make coffee at

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>five am, and then serve booze as late as the

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 1>anglers will keep buying it. They also cook a mean

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>feed of greasy chicken parmesans on a mountain of fries

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to fuel anglers all of this even though they are

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the only place you could possibly go within sixty miles,

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>and he says plenty of other bars on the tournament

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>trail won't even keep the kitchen open ten minutes longer

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>than normal. That's how you nominate a place, no doubt that.

0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean que the applause. That's not only does that

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>sound like an amazing place, but that guy did a

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>fantastic job of describing it. So to him as well,

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Josh from Australia, we brother and I I love this

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And the most striking and educational thing for me is

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that I had no ideas the Ausea's eight chicken palm.

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, man, everybody eats chicken palm. Come on, see,

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like who would have thunks? Like? That's that's what I

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>expect to hear from a nomination of a bar where

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 1>like the party boats dock in Brooklyn. Yea, they got

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the fresh Pepper's little Gobbagle, not Australia. That should have

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 1>been like kangaroo Cobab's and deep fried Yabbies or something. Anyway,

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 1>don't do not talk smack on kangaroo meat. It is

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>delicious and I'm not joking right now. I I think

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Josh will probably back me up on this. Josh, Kangaroo's delicious.

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Don't anybody tell you different. Josh. You can, you can

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>write back in it and back Miles up on that.

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 1>But I have a message for you, man Um. I

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>look this place up. Super cool, divy bar meets store,

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>convenience store with a boat ramp. It's right in the bay.

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.959
<v Speaker 1>But dude, I have some bad news. Per the BEM website,

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the joints for Saleman. So, Josh, if you have the

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>financial means, maybe this is a sign that you need

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to purchase this joint and keep Bem's cranking so Miles

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:16.839
<v Speaker 1>and I can come visit you and drink there. Someday.

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we take up a collection, we turn it into bents.

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It's our, It's our, our flagship headquarters outside of the US.

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's get the stickers and T shirts going before we

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>start buying buying water and holes. Anyway, we've been enjoying

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>all your bar nominations, so please keep those coming. We

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your help so much. Keep firing them off to

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Bent at the meat Eater dot com so we can

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 1>keep this list growing and give your local hangs some love.

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Be honest, with you, man, I just want to know

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:51.240
<v Speaker 1>more about Australian fishing tournaments. You know, like we've covered

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the fact that neither one of us is big into

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>tournament fishing, at least, you know, not the way it's

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>done here in the States. But I gotta imagine the

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Aussees do it up eat down there, you know what

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean? I would think so like I mean, they

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 1>seem to have a lot of stuff dial when it

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 1>comes to fishing, because they have, they have so much

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>good fishing and so many cool fish in Australia. But

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, like what's their tournament fish? What

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is it that they are tournament? Is it baron Mundy?

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it Murray cod? Is it Australian bass? I don't know, Josh.

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>If you're still listening, fill us in. We are ignorant

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 1>about your tournament targets down there, but we like learning

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff also, so we have a listener at least one

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 1>listener in Australia. So that's pretty cool. That could equate

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to one couch we could sleep on if if we

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>needed to. But yeah, Josh, let us know, because you know,

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the bar you mentioned is coastal, so if it's a

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>saltwater tournament. It's even more interesting, like what what do

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys? What do you guys target? What do you know?

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And they do have very cool fish there, so I've heard.

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I've never fished there myself because I have offensive it

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:01.359
<v Speaker 1>is I have, Well, yeah, my I should clarify that

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that my wife works for an Australian organization, so so

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 1>she gets to go down or used to be able

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to go down there back when we could travel a lot,

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't she she's she's all about those quantum miles. She

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>just rides in the pouch um. I the one time

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I did get the fish out there, I think I

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>caught the world's smallest murray cod. But those are super

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>cool fish. And if you don't know about him, we'll

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll cover him here at some point because I've I've

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>written about them before and I loved hanging out in Australia.

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh And just a quick tip for other Americans who

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>may go there. I made some poor footwear choices, but

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't bring snake boots. All the Ausse's wear snake

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 1>boots and running through the bush in shorts and flip

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>flops and the mill of the night is a good

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 1>way to die. So pro tip for you. I sense

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that there's a deeper backstory there that either I don't

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 1>know there's it's a long story. We're gonna have to

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 1>tell that one in the time. Short version is they

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>have these things called brown snakes. They will kill people

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. Uh. I think I only avoided getting bitten

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.320
<v Speaker 1>through sheer luck and ignorance straight up. Like, hey man, however,

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever it takes to stay safe, sheer luck and ignorance,

0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 1>that was sometimes anyway. For all the fascinating and fun

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>fish they have in oz and there are a lot

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of them, one fish that they don't have our gar

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.320
<v Speaker 1>And if you're one of the outcasts like me in

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Guard fishing camp, listen up because this week's

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 1>tackle hack comes from our good friend Alvin Dado in Texas,

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna pass along a sweet little nugget for

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>how you can catch more of them cars. I'm getting

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:37.279
<v Speaker 1>hats coming from inside the city like the flood at.

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Today's tackle hack comes to us from renowned fishing guide

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:47.359
<v Speaker 1>from all over the West, Alvin Dado. Alvin, how are

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:51.799
<v Speaker 1>you man, I'm fantestic, How are you? I'm also fantastic

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you. And you uh, I mean, dude, you you

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>got it all over the place. You've done fresh, you've

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.840
<v Speaker 1>done salt, you've done rivers, you've done lakes like you

0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:02.279
<v Speaker 1>just you do it all right, that's right, all waters man.

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:06.719
<v Speaker 1>So ask someone who who has guided and fished just

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>about every kind of fishing there is. We brought you

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>here to give us one of your favorite tips on

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 1>fish and give us your tackle. Hack man, what do

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you got? All right? I'm calling this one the guard attachment.

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So it is an attachment that you can put on

0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:28.720
<v Speaker 1>your hook, whether it's a fly or spinner, a plug, whatever,

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that will allow you to catch some gr Guar are

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>known for having very bony mouths, and it's hard to

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>get a hook in the small hooks, big hooks, doesn't

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>really matter, but if you really want to give them,

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what you need is a guard attachment. And the guard

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 1>attachment is a piece of nylon rope maybe two inches long.

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.439
<v Speaker 1>You burn one end so it doesn't fray, and then

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you take the other end and fray it out. Now,

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the important part is that you make a pretty good

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>sized chunk of burned rope one end, because what you're

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna do is poke your hook through that burned section

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of the rope, and that'll keep it on there, so

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to tie it on. You don't have

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to make a fly, you don't have to make a

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 1>lure with it on there. You just got a little

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 1>piece of rope that's ready to stick on your hook

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>when you want to get a car. And the way

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it works is gar have barbed teeth, so their teeth

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>are designed to grab stuff and hold. They're not designed

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 1>for cutting. So what happens when the guar grabs the yarn,

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the barbs and their teeth get tangled up. And what

0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do is you gotta let them take it

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. So let them run with it

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit before you set the hook. Even

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:37.960
<v Speaker 1>though you're not really setting the hook, you're just getting

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the line tight. The teeth are tangled up, and it

0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:44.480
<v Speaker 1>works really well. Now, the thing about it is, uh,

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>especially if you want to catch a guard to eat,

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a really good technique. But if you're trying to

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>catch gar and release them, bring some gloves and some

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>ly and some long dose fliers because you're gonna have

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to You're gonna have to untang will be guard attachment

0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>from the guard's teeth. If you want to return the

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 1>guard to the water, if you want to keep the

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>guard and eat it, you're all good. Whack them on

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the head and yank it out and throw them in

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the cooler. So I always have a guard attachment with

0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you so you can get you some car. If this

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't if this was an infomercial, I'd order twelve already

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 1>right now. That's Monday, Sunday Sunday. Guard Gargard just happened.

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I just happened to be setting up a website that

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 1>y'all can go to www dot guard attachment dot net.

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Because when you got the guar attachments, you don't need

0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 1>no net. I know that guard that's kind of like

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a niche fish, But that is a solid bit of

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.760
<v Speaker 1>wisdom right there. If you're into those, it shouldn't be

0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a niche fish. I'm just saying, should should guard are

0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:55.880
<v Speaker 1>so fun and and that's a good tip. I particularly

0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're a little curious about the guards. I want

0:59:58.440 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out that I'm telling you. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good tip. I've seen Alvin use that successfully. And and

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody out there watched season one of Doss Boat

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<v Speaker 1>You might recognize that little maneuver because after after Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Griffith farmed like ten gar on spinner baits and clousers.

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<v Speaker 1>Because just like the hooked wooden stick, Alvin rigged up

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<v Speaker 1>that guard attachment and Jesse promptly got it done. It worked,

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<v Speaker 1>It worked a charm man. It's a secret weapon, secret

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<v Speaker 1>weapon of all good gar anglers. Cheap ass nylon rope.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not just for tying off that mintor bucket. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is a tool of of many, many uses.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have time to list all the different things

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<v Speaker 1>you should be doing with your ends of nylon rope

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<v Speaker 1>because we are coming to the end. But before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is going to tell you about a bait with

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<v Speaker 1>possibly the coolest name of all time in this week's

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<v Speaker 1>end of the line. Well it's not loud enough. Nomad

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<v Speaker 1>Design Tackle is an Australian based company that specializes in

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<v Speaker 1>creating lords that will fool and stand up to big

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<v Speaker 1>bad blue water brawlers like Tuna and Giant trivollis. Now

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<v Speaker 1>given that the Aussies have a testing ground with much

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<v Speaker 1>cooler ship to test on, like those GTS and dog

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<v Speaker 1>Tooth tunas. It's no wonder that Nomad's wears have infiltrated

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<v Speaker 1>the US market, coveted by those like me infatuated with

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<v Speaker 1>casting not trolling for bad as pelagic species. Nomad makes

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of cool stuff, But I'm gonna go on

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<v Speaker 1>record right now and say there is no offering finer

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<v Speaker 1>than the popper they released in two thousand and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>called the Chug Norris. Now here's the thing, right, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never fished a Chuck Norris. I don't even own a

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Norris. I've held at Chuck Norris in my hands

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<v Speaker 1>several times at various tackle shops. I've debated the Chuck Norris,

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<v Speaker 1>and each time I've decided I couldn't bring myself to

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<v Speaker 1>drop thirty five smackers on a popper I don't really need. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, I'm not saying that Chuck Norris isn't

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<v Speaker 1>worth that kind of money. It's extremely well made, tough

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<v Speaker 1>as nails, and supposedly has design elements that allow it

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<v Speaker 1>to throw a ton of water while being easier to

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<v Speaker 1>work than other similar offshore poppers. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I love throwing poppers at tuna and dolphin.

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<v Speaker 1>I only get to do it a handful of times

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<v Speaker 1>this season if I'm lucky, and it's been my experience

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<v Speaker 1>that when you're dealing with a school of hungry boiling

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<v Speaker 1>tuna or a bulldolphin hovering under some flots um, if

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<v Speaker 1>they're fired up enough to eat a popper, it don't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if it's a madman as thorn, t popper, pro popper,

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<v Speaker 1>jet popper, bullpop, tuna rocket or tun a hunter. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have plenty of all of those, which essentially means

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<v Speaker 1>I only want to buy a Chuck Norris because it's

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<v Speaker 1>called the Chuck Norris, which brings us to why I've

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<v Speaker 1>included this lure that I've never actually thrown. In end

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<v Speaker 1>of the line, I distinctly recall walking up on the

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<v Speaker 1>Nomad booth at eye Cast, which is the big tackle

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<v Speaker 1>industry trade show back in seeing the sign reading Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Norris and swooning as I remember, I had to brace

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<v Speaker 1>myself on the table of a man selling beer koozies

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<v Speaker 1>that had led lights in them and coolers that featured

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<v Speaker 1>built in deep fat friars. It was and still remains

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<v Speaker 1>the best god damn lure name I've ever heard it's

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<v Speaker 1>worthy of owning and throwing. Just so you can include

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<v Speaker 1>the words Chuck Norris in your Instagram posts. Think of

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<v Speaker 1>the witty pop culture e possibilities. Chuck Norris doesn't shower,

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<v Speaker 1>He only takes blood baths. When Chuck Norris does division,

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<v Speaker 1>there are no remainders. There is no theory of evolution,

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<v Speaker 1>just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those of you that travel to fish, keep

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Norris once visited the Virgin Islands. They are now

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<v Speaker 1>the islands in your back pocket. Don't worry, all you

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<v Speaker 1>Middle America listeners that have no use for a seven

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<v Speaker 1>inch popper. They can tackle of fish as big and

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<v Speaker 1>heavy as your lawn tractor. Nomad also makes three point

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<v Speaker 1>seven five inch Chuck Norris models, which would probably catch

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<v Speaker 1>some muskies or some some hog large mouths. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>that said, though, you know, for a time there was

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<v Speaker 1>even an itty bitty two inch freshwater Chuck Norris that

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<v Speaker 1>featured patterns like frog and crayfish, but it appears to

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<v Speaker 1>be discontinued, probably because y'all are doing just fine with

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<v Speaker 1>your pop bars and hula poppers. But my pop bar

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<v Speaker 1>came in contact with the coronavirus. Now the coronavirus is

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<v Speaker 1>quarantining for two weeks, just doesn't have the same ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's it for this week. Hopefully you now know

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<v Speaker 1>how to tell when a Canadian is making fun of you,

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<v Speaker 1>why you should never ever leave a newlywed couple in

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<v Speaker 1>your boat alone for more than ten minutes, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how old they are, and why Joe always carries a

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<v Speaker 1>bag of nine on rope soaked in bacon grease in

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<v Speaker 1>his front pocket. I do. And if you have crafted

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<v Speaker 1>any of your own bacon grease tricks, please tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about them. Email us at bent at the meat eater

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. We always appreciate hearing from you guys, even

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<v Speaker 1>won't ask you for money like those NPR jumps, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will continue asking for your help getting the word

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<v Speaker 1>out because that's what allows us to have jobs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're assuming you can call this a job, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be worse too. We could be restocking the air

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<v Speaker 1>purifiers at the sharper Image over there, they're selling like hotcakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear. Anyway, sharp Image still exists, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>at least maybe anyway, And so next time, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>your coffee is black rifle, and make sure you check

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<v Speaker 1>your whole for that drain plug. Hey, do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>remember bonus tracks hidden secret tracks at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>a CD. Sometimes they'd be like track four thousand, or

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<v Speaker 1>you had to listen for like five minutes after the

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<v Speaker 1>last song. If you stuck around this long, you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to get a bonus track. Because, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>river Horse from our Sage Lee Wisdom with river Horse

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<v Speaker 1>segment in the last episode had not actually listened to

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast before recording that, and apparently now he has

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<v Speaker 1>a much better sense of what we're doing. No, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. River Horse came on because I called him

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey man, we'd like to get you on

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast. But apparently he never did his due diligence

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't know what he was contributing to. So after

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<v Speaker 1>he actually listened to the show, he sent us this

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<v Speaker 1>voice message that we are now going to play for

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<v Speaker 1>you as a little bonus. And Joe Way, oh yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and hell Yes, what a fine, fine, superfine riff of

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. Boys, honor to be on there with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I see what kind of party it is. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pull out all the stops on the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Get ready for a throw down, a full on fight

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<v Speaker 1>on the playground. Baby, But let's have a little chat

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and Miles in my lord, how come I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be the Cherokee Viking love child of James Harrold Jones

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<v Speaker 1>and Fabio, or perhaps the tree hugger Texas fly fishing

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<v Speaker 1>hid been Morgan Freeman. M hmm, Now that I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, the in your reference makes me feel kind

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<v Speaker 1>of prom nights sexy. Oh thanks again for having me

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<v Speaker 1>along for that, Red, And I'm gonna whisper sweet nothings

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<v Speaker 1>in your ears, some pisty flow spulling t