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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bent the Fishing podcast. A recent study found

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Speaker 1: is a competition where Myles and I scour the deepest,

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Speaker 1: you just suit I do. I actually do. I love

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00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: and hate them. And that's all wrapped up into into

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00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: this package here. Last week I schooled everyone about the

427
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: dangers of feral goldfish. Goldfisher, carp and carp in their

428
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: various forms, are arguably the most destructive aquatic invasive species

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Speaker 1: in North America. Well, this week, the state of Wisconsin

430
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Speaker 1: issued its first arrest for the illegal sale of Asian carp.

431
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: But before I get into the details of all that,

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00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I gotta provide a little bit of context.

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00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: Some of you will know that, some of you won't,

434
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: but it's important. Asian carp is a catch all term

435
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: that refers to several different carp species, including bighead, silver

436
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: and grass carp. These fish were brought here from China

437
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: in the sixties and seventies for a whole bunch of

438
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: different reasons. But as so often happens in these situations,

439
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: they escaped and they invaded local waters and they've been

440
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: spreading ever since. They're now in twenty eight states and

441
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: still going. You've probably seen footage of the thousands of

442
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: silver carp flying out of the water when boats passed

443
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: by and people like hitting them with clubs and arrows

444
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: and all that. That that's been pretty well, pretty well covered. Uh,

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00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: And most of that comes from places like the Illinois

446
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: River that have been just totally overrun by these fish.

447
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: And just so you guys understand what we're talking about,

448
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: these fish can consume forty percent of their body weight

449
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: per day in aquatic nutrients, and in some waterways, asian

450
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: carp now make up more than nine of the total biomass,

451
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: and they just pushed anything else out. Yeah, I mean,

452
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: it's insane. The amount of like ninety of the bio

453
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: of the fish, of all the biomass, everything that lives

454
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: in a waterway are now asian carp. It's it's mind blowing. Yeah.

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00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: And I'll just I'll just throw in there, like you

456
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: used to see a lot of those videos the jumping

457
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: carp in the bow, fishermen and stuff, and just because

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00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: you don't see that many anymore, it's not because they've

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00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: gone away, Like like you said, they are just pushing

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00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: further and further. You know, up, it's it's it's crazy. Yeah,

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00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: So all this is just to say that these fish

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00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: are a huge problem, and like you were saying, Joe,

463
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: fisheries managers and other people have been fighting their asses

464
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Speaker 1: off to keep these fish from reaching the Great Lakes

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Speaker 1: because everyone feels like that's that's the major tipping point.

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00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: If they get there, the Great Lakes are just going

467
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: to crash, and that's what we're all trying to stop.

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00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: So for that reason, it is illegal to transport any

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Speaker 1: Asian carpet in Wisconsin unless they have been gutted or

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Speaker 1: had their guilt plates severed. Those stipulations were enacted because

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00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: these fish can live for like a surprisingly long amount

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00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: of time out of the water. I read some I

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00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: read different numbers, but but over a day seems to

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00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: be the consensus. Yeah, there's crazy. There's very similar rules

475
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: out here for snakeheads. Same thing. You can transport them

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00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: if it's like got its head cut off, because they

477
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: can breathe there and yeah, same kind of deal. Yeah,

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00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: And I mean what that What that means is like

479
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: a fish might appear dead and it's been riding in

480
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: a truck for hours, but theoretically it might still be

481
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: capable of of surviving if it were to somehow get

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Speaker 1: out and escape into a waterway. All right, So back

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Speaker 1: to this arrest. Ping Lee is a wholesale fish dealer

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Speaker 1: from Plattsville, Wisconsin, who now faces four misdemeanor counts of

485
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Speaker 1: possessing illegal fish. Apparently, Mr Lee has been transporting Asian

486
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: carp from central Illinois to fish markets in Chicago and Madison,

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Speaker 1: sometimes as much as twenty hundred pounds at a time

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Speaker 1: for at least the past three years. Wisconsin d n

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Speaker 1: R has been working on a sting to catch this

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Speaker 1: guy since two thousand eighteen, using undercover agents, covert surveillance,

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Speaker 1: and GPS trackers. Suffice to say, Wisconsin is not messing

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Speaker 1: around with the Asian carp thing. And and I applaud

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Speaker 1: those efforts. To have to say, I'm honestly conflicted about

494
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: this story. I know, I know where you're going, and

495
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. Yeah, because because like all right,

496
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: one of the tools for dealing with the Asian carp

497
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: infestation is through commercial harvest. Gill netters are now making

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00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: a pretty good living in many places like Illinois and Tennessee,

499
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: catching and selling tons and tons and tons of these

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00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: invasive carp. Ryan Callahan did a great little segment about

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00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: this on the Mediator YouTube channel that you should definitely

502
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: check out. And cal actually brought some of the filets

503
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: from that episode over to my house one night for dinner,

504
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: and Joe, you were there, I was there. I ate it.

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00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was delicious. I was shocked. It was

506
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: like it was it was truly delicious. It was not

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00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: just tolerable. It was like really really good eating fish.

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00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: It's it's the kind of fish that you could feed

509
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: to people who say they don't really like fish, and

510
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: then you can watch them after they take that first

511
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: bite and they go, oh, that's actually good. Yeah, And

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00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 1: it isn't that because a lot of these fish they

513
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: filter feed verse common carpet grubbed the bottom, so people

514
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: think carp have that mud taste, but that's not the

515
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: way that these fish feet. It was a super mild,

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00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: super mild. It wasn't like, oh my god, the flavor

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00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: of this fish is phenomenal, but it's just a very

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00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: sort of baseline good white meat fish exactly totally palatable.

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00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: And and so my point in all this is that

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00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: large scale harvest is one of the very few viable

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00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: tools we have for trying to control these invasive fish.

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00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: So that's something that I think we want to encourage,

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00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: not discourage. And harvest only works if it's connected to

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00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: an effective distribution network. And so that's why this Wisconsin

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00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: arrest gives me some pause. I mean, it seems like

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00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: like Mr Lee was clearly in violation of the law.

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00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing that his fish had their viscera and

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00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: guilt plates intact, but he wasn't transporting live fish. It's

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00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: not like he was smuggling carp into Wisconsin to start

530
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: a fish farm. He was selling thousands and thousands of

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00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: pounds of Asian carp for meat. That's just it. If

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00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: he's if he has that much demand, he's selling that

533
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: much fish, then good, then get out there and kill

534
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: more to keep up with that demand. I mean, the

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00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: law is the law, you know. I feel like the

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00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: sting operation, like, couldn't we have gone to him and said,

537
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: like we love what you're doing here, can you just

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00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: make sure that you remove all the guilt plates and

539
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: like just do it the right way. Yeah, And there

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00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: there may be some things that I don't know about

541
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: this story, but that's exactly how I feel. And it

542
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: really seems from everything I could read, and I read

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00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of news stories on this, it seems like Wisconsin,

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00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: Dina is trying to throw the book at this guy,

545
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: and I think that might be a mistake. Like I think,

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00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: if we're going to curb the populations of these fish

547
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: through commercial gill netting, we need fish sellers that are

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00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: willing to transport them. And I'm worried that this case

549
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: might make people think twice about getting into the carp

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00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: selling business. And then you can harvest all you want,

551
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: but if you don't have a market, they don't go anywhere.

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00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: I agree completely, And it kind of hearkens back to

553
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: some stories from forget if it was the nineties, but

554
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: there was a similar problem out here on the East

555
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Coast with the salmon fisheries. Guys would go over snagged

556
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: their limit, catch their limit, fill these trucks and run

557
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: him to sell them in New York City. And the

558
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: way they stung them was they put black light die

559
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: in the salmon eggs and then went down to New

560
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: York City and black lit in the sushi restaurants and

561
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: that's how they figured it out. But that's a that's

562
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: a recreational fishery that's bringing a lot of money to town.

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00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: I understand the staying and the undercover on that, but

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00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more man Like, if you have people

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00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: that are making a live and killing thousands of pounds

566
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: of these fish, just I kind of disagree with the

567
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: level of book throwing here. Yeah, so that was I'm

568
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: torn on like, like I said, the guys clearly clearly

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00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: he broke the law. Not arguing that, but I feel

570
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: like these are the kind of actions we we kind

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00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: of want to support, not this waye and and arresting

572
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: him seems to have the opposite impact. If he's selling

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00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: that many putting him out of business for this like

574
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: ruining to the point where he can't operate, that alone

575
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: leaves how many more Asian carp in the system, potentially

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00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: just for his suppliers. So well, hey, by all means

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00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: right in, let us know what you think, because we're

578
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: torn on that one, and we'd love to hear from you, guys. Ah,

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00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: this is this is perfect for me because you know

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Asian carp. It's like all Asian carp. You know, a

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00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: good Asian carp is a dead carp over here. And

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00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: we look at carp very differently in the US than

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00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: they do across the pond in the UK. So I

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00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna hurt my win this week,

585
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: but I do have a bit of an obituary here sadly,

586
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: and this comes to us from the UK Sun. And

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00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: I was stunned and wept when I read this headline.

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00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: It says not carping on Angling World in mourning as

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00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: Britain's biggest common carp dies aged And I said to myself, God,

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00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: please tell me they're not talking about Tarka, because I've

591
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: been following Tarka the carp since it's my space days

592
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: tell you the truth. But at last my worst fears

593
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: were realized from the story the Angling World is mourning

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00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: the death of Britain's biggest known common carp. The whopper

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00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: known as Tarka was aged about and wade sixty five

596
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: pounds two ounces at its heaviest um. He died from

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00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: natural causes in his lake at the Avenue Fishery in Shropshire,

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00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: and anglers traveled from far and wide for the chance

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00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: to catch Tarka, and Tarka's owner Rob Hale said there

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00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: were numerous lucky enough anglers to catch him in the

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00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: past and it has been amazing to follow the magnificent

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00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: journey of his growth. Targa was introduced to the fishery

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00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight when he weighed more than

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00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: twenty pounds, and he was named Tarka after part of

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00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: his tail was bitten off by an otter and um,

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00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know why. Maybe Tarka's an

607
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: old British word for bitten by otter. Anyway, heart heartbroken

608
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: anglers took the social media to pay tribute. Gary Roberts posted,

609
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: so sad r I P. Tarca, What an incredible carp

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00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: a legend. Luke Edwards, who caught Tarca when he weighed

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00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: just under fifty three pounds, said, made me a very

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00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: very happy angler and many more R I P. Tarka.

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00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: Eric Cranston said this is so sad, unbelievable, stunning fish.

614
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: To lose any fish is upsetting, but the jewel in

615
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: the crown must hit everyone who has caught it and

616
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: admired it. Um. And I actually have a good friend,

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00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Nigel Polsford over in the UK. Uh. The guy's utterly

618
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: devoted to payle carp fishing. And I gave him a

619
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: call just to see how he was feeling about this

620
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: tragic news. And here's what he said. No, let me stop, you,

621
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: let let me stop. You destroyed me mental stop. So

622
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: clearly he was just too distraught to talk about it. Um.

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00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: I hope he cat him on a bed day. You

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00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: were friends. I don't know if I don't think that

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00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: it was really upset right now, I should have given

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00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: it a few days. Look, man, I'll say this no

627
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: disrespect to British carpers, okay, because carping is serious business

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00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: over there right It generates big dollars. And I love

629
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: carp too. I think you do too. I've spent a

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00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: lot of time carping, particularly on the fly, and I

631
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: admire the passion of these guys that camp out all

632
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: weekend under a tarp like waiting for a named fish

633
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: to eat a boile and make a screen bivy yea. Um.

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00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: But I just have to say, and like, pardon me,

635
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm happy, Like that's not my best or only option

636
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: for freshwater fishing. You know what I'm saying. It makes

637
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: me like I want to say, don't ever take for

638
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: granted your land access, public lands, ability to hike miles

639
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: of stream and hop guard rails, you know, drop your

640
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: boat in hundreds of lakes. Yes, you know. And I

641
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: mean I'm guilty of going on tangents about how they're

642
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: like too many people out here now ruining spots, but

643
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: it could be worse. You know. You can feel that

644
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: same frustration at a lake you're paying harder and money

645
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: to fish, trying to catch a carp so fat it

646
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: can barely swim. So it's like, you know, that's what

647
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: you got. I think it's I think it's it's very

648
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: difficult to judge European carp fishing by American standards, and

649
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: and we run the risk of being those obnoxious American

650
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: assholes who were looking down our nose, of them being like, oh,

651
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: those stupid Brits and their course fishing. I don't want

652
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: to be that guy. I don't, but I am fascinated

653
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: by the carp fishing scene kind of the same way

654
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: that I'm fascinated by the tournament bass angling scene here.

655
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: It's not something I want to do, but again, sociologically, god,

656
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me. I couldn't agree more. And and

657
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: again I'm we're only having some fun here. I've actually

658
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: done the eurocarp thing. I had a button got Yeah,

659
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: he got very into it here in the States, and

660
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: he had all the stuff, all the button no no bivvy,

661
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: we had no tents, but all the bite alarms. You know.

662
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: He would show up and bait the swim and all

663
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: that stuff. And uh caught some some giant carp doing that.

664
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: But I almost, you know, I almost feel bad because

665
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: these guys are so into it on these lakes where

666
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: these fish are just pounded and pounded and pounded. And

667
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: I've I've heard European guys say that usually they don't

668
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: fight very well, right, because they've been caught a bunch

669
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: of times. Right, And then you come to the States

670
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: and they catch a wild river carp or something here,

671
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: and it's like, holy shit, you know, they fight these

672
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: wild fish here fight so much more. So, you know,

673
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: it's almost surprising that we're not like Destiny travel destination

674
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: number one for this because you can go wherever the

675
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: hell you want. There's carpet everywhere. They're probably a lot

676
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: dumber than the carp over there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

677
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean it just it just also is emblematic of

678
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: the different attitudes there and here about carp right here.

679
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: People go out with bows and whack as many carpets

680
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: as possibly can and kill them, and they're they're seeing

681
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: a nuisance. We hate them over there. One carp dies

682
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: and it makes national news right that they're so revered.

683
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's I think that's a pretty good

684
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: way of kind of framing how are different culture fishing

685
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: cultures look at carp right there? Well, what the story said,

686
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: And I didn't drop this down, so I hope I'm

687
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: not wrong, but I believe that it said that as

688
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: big as Tarka was, it couldn't become a record fish

689
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: because common carper not native there either. They only count

690
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: the mirror carp in record standing. Huh, well, no carper

691
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: native there. I don't want we're gonna get into a

692
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: rabbit hole there. Let's not. Let's not go too far

693
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: down that hole. But I mean you did sort of

694
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: team me up there for my next story, Joe, because

695
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: we're we're we're not on the happiest of news today,

696
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm gonna kind of stick with not

697
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: the happiest of news. Uh. I'm also gonna stick at

698
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: least from my angle here with the angle of commercial fishing.

699
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm on the commercial fishing theme this week, okay, And honestly, man,

700
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find and a sliver of hope in

701
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: all the news we read about crashing marine stocks and

702
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: not great. But one of the many issues that marine

703
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: fisheries face is illegal, unregulated catch. International harvest regulations are

704
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: like super super complicated and contentious, and I am not

705
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: going to dive into all that here because we don't

706
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: have time, but just to quickly and vastly oversimplify, a

707
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: U N treaty does exist between sixty six countries and

708
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: the European Union regulating marine harvest at theoretically sustainable levels. Unfortunately,

709
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: lots of fleets continue to operate illegally. Policing those fleets

710
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: across global oceans just it's it's not feasible. There's there's

711
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: too much water out there, Like, we can't police all

712
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: the oceans. So one of the other ideas for curbing

713
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: this destruction is to find ways of preventing the illegal

714
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: fish from getting to the markets. Right, If the illicit

715
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: fishermen can't sell their catch, they won't keep fishing illegally.

716
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: Makes sense, yeah, right, But monitoring all the boats coming

717
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: into international ports is also like a herculean task. So

718
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: the folks at Pew Charitable Trusts just developed a new

719
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: interactive tool to help port authorities and seafood buyers determine

720
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: where illegal seafood is most likely to enter the markets.

721
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: The tool uses data from automatic information systems, which are

722
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: those electronic things that are on all boats now, and

723
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: it focuses on the top nine global ports that receive

724
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: the highest level of traffic from foreign vessels. But the

725
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: thing is, like, there's my good news thing. But the

726
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: thing is, this is just a tool that ports and

727
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: seafood buyers can use if they choose to the existence

728
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: of this time. There's no autation. This just came out right.

729
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: Just having this tool doesn't do anything to curb or

730
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: this way to illegal seafood trade, which currently brings in

731
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: over twenty three billion dollars a year. Like, you're fighting

732
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: up a lot of money there, I believe it. Yea.

733
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: And in order for this to actually have any impact,

734
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: the ports and the fish wholesalers need to use this information.

735
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: They've got to actually turn away illegal vessels or refuse

736
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: to buy their catch. And whether or not that happens,

737
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, it remains to be seen. My take is

738
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: that this is a step in the right direction. It's

739
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: it's not a solution, but I appreciate that this tool exists,

740
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: and I hope people will start to implement some policies

741
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: around it. But for my part, I just try to

742
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: know as much about the origins of the fish I

743
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: eat as possible. Preferably I are somebody I know catches it.

744
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: Any fish I buy it a store is probably contributing

745
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: to the problem, even if the packaging says wild cat.

746
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: But that said still better than farm fish. So you

747
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: know about all I can do. And I mean, dude,

748
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: we could. Books have been written on the we can

749
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: we can? You can get so lost in this debate

750
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: and all the different different angles, and it is a

751
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: great tool, and it is a step in the right direction.

752
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: But if you if you step I can look at

753
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: commercial fishing as a whole. It's just it just reeks

754
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: of like a CAMAFIA operation. To me, it always has

755
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: and that's what's so hard to penetrate. Like if you're

756
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: not getting your fish for your restaurants more reputable source,

757
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: but the price is right, it's like getting that many

758
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: people to do the right thing. It really feels it

759
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: feels impossible. It feels like almost impossible. Um. I'm not

760
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: willing to go impossible, but I will say it's it's hard.

761
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: And I like to when when I can think better,

762
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: if people maybe having access to this tool, some some

763
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: of the bigger seafood buyers and wholesalers and some of

764
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the big reports will we'll use it. We'll see. I

765
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: want to be I want to be positive today, Joe.

766
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: That's where I want to go. Well, I mean, the

767
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: technology has to exist for anybody to use it at all,

768
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: So so we will see. And I think, you know,

769
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of operations out there

770
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: that really do care about sustainable and care about wild caught.

771
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I guess it all depends on

772
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: the volume and and what you need. It's just seems

773
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: like such a tangled web. Know, and then if you

774
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: start looking how this parlays into recreational fishing, it's a

775
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: whole other rabbit hole. You know. I've heard organizations talk

776
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: about recreational fluke limits as an example, but then they'll say, well,

777
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: we don't have a good way to monitor the guys

778
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: dragging for them. So it seems to me like until

779
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: you have a good way to monitor that and know

780
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: what they're doing with those fish, it's much harder to

781
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: come down on the recreational guys. Like it's just the

782
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: whole commercial scene. Man, it's just so it's so twisted. Yep,

783
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a hard one to balance out. And

784
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: this is we're I mean, this is one kind of

785
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: little story in a much bigger thing. Like you said,

786
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: books have been written about it. But I'm hoping, I'm

787
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: hoping we get something potentially positive out of this tool. Anyway, Well,

788
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: let's what we're gonna We're gonna keep moving on in

789
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: a positive direction. Even though I think this here's another

790
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: story with the dead fish. I mean that just seems

791
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: like we're just all we're all about dead fish today.

792
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: We're all about fish death, uh in this in this

793
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: news segment. But it's a feel good story even though

794
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: there is death and Um, we actually first got tipped

795
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: off to this one by listener Taylor Riggan. And uh,

796
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of sources out there. The one I'm

797
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: pulling from here is from inforum dot com and the

798
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: headline is Iowa man catches near record Minnesota muskie an

799
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: unexpected place. So it goes a little something like this.

800
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: It starts out the fish was so big. Brandon Gratick

801
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: claims to have lost control of his bodily functions the

802
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: first time he saw it. And here's a quote. It

803
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: jumped one time. When he jumped, I saw him comma

804
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: I in parentheses defecated. So we're gonna assume he said

805
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: ship to the journalist. So when I saw him my ship,

806
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: I literally did, he says, I really hope. That's one

807
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: of the misuses of literal, like when people say literally

808
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: but mean figuratively. Anyway, Yeah, I'm with you. So. Uh.

809
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: The Iowa City, Iowa truck driver might have been exaggerating

810
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: about his reaction to seeing his fish of a lifetime,

811
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: but there is no need to exaggerate about the fish itself.

812
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: Gratic landed a fifty two pound, fifty seven inch musk

813
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: along and this was at the end of August from

814
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: Straight Lake in Becker County near O s Age, Minnesota,

815
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: and he was there on vacation. And this beast had

816
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: a twenty five in girth, So that's a that's a

817
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: massive musk. But there's there's a lot of interesting things

818
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: going on with his story. Um, so he did keep

819
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: the whopper, which died while in possession. It appears to

820
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: be the Minnesota record for a non released muskie, and

821
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: its measurements were within fractions of the state's catch and

822
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: release mark. But here's here's where it starts to get interesting. Right, Um,

823
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: there have never been any muskies stocked in Straight Lake,

824
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: nor according to Minnesota DNR, have they ever gotten any

825
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: in net studies in Straight Lake. And uh, what they

826
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: say is that they believe that it jumped from a

827
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: rearing pond located across the highway across thirty four from

828
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the lake. It jumped anyway, I'm gonna leave out go ahead, Yeah,

829
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't think they're necessarily saying

830
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: it jumped, but that's where they figure at some point

831
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: it came from. So some other fun facts, right, the

832
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: fish hit a two and a half inch long booyah.

833
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Crank bait that Graddic said he quote grabbed out of

834
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: the bargain bin at Walmart because that, kids, is how

835
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: you catch a big muskie. And I'm not kidding. I

836
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: feel like a I feel like a broken record. You

837
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: want to catch a musky target bass and and and

838
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: cropp ease like this, dude, bin that's so good. Don't

839
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: buy the lure by the two dollar bargain bin. Lure

840
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: bargain all day. But on a down note, however, because

841
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: Graddick was using super light line and a lighter outfit,

842
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: the fight lasted thirty minutes and it kind of whooped

843
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: the fish, which yeah, I mean that's gonna happen, hap

844
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: me um. He also didn't have a big enough net,

845
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: so landing must have been something he apparently squose it into,

846
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: like a little trout sized net. I would love to

847
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: see that me too, though obviously he did land it,

848
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: because then, the story says, Graddick wanted to show his

849
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: family the massive catch, so he called and told them

850
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: to wait on the dock at the resort, about a

851
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: fifteen minute boat ride away. The nearly five ft long

852
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: fish didn't come close to fitting in his live well either,

853
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: so Graddick just put the muski's head in the water

854
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: and zip back to the dock. Put that whole dog

855
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: and pony show together, and you've got a dead muskie.

856
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: And while good on you for an amazing catch. As

857
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: you can imagine, he's been catching some flak over that,

858
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: though he says, don't worry, I plan to skin mount it.

859
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: So there you go. Now, as crazy as this whole

860
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: thing is, this is the piece that that really sticks

861
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: with me. Um. I can't speak for everywhere, but particularly

862
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: out here, like in Pennsylvania or I live, there are

863
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: so many creeks and and warm water rivers and stuff

864
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: that you know, everybody thinks that it's just rock bass

865
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: and small mouth and pick roll and stuff. But at

866
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: certain times a year, because of other trips that come in,

867
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: it's like if you know where you're going, Like there's

868
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: some big gas brown trout in this one in December

869
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: that aren't actually supposed to be there. Like there's all

870
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: sorts of little secret things like that out here. I

871
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the same in Montana, but that's

872
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: what I think is so cool, you know, because it

873
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: makes me wonder, did somebody else know there's some muskies

874
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: in Straight Lake, you know, and for years have been like, no,

875
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: there's not don't fish here, No, there's not. You know

876
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think that's I do. I do too,

877
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's one of those ones like

878
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: I get why people are upset. That's poor fish handling,

879
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: and the muskie community in particular gets way way serious

880
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: about that stuff. So I'm you're not gonna I'm not

881
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna weigh on that. But if you're talking about a place,

882
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: it's not like we're talking about Malax or Lake Saint

883
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: Clair or Green Bay or one of those fisheries where

884
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: muski hunters go to target their fish and those they

885
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: want to have them there. It wasn't even supposed to

886
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: be there. So I think that that has to be

887
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: part of the conversation when you're weighing all this. You know,

888
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: it's not it's not an optimal example of how you

889
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: should handle the fish, but that happens sometimes. It's fishing,

890
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's it's a little hard to

891
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: blame the dude, right because the Minnesota record has stood

892
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: since nineteen fifty seven from like Winnebagosh. So if that

893
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: ends up taking it, man, how ironic is it in

894
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: the Land of ten Thousand Lakes? It comes from the

895
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: one that's not supposed to have them, you know what

896
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean? The irony in that is terrific. So maybe

897
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: maybe we'll have some follow up on this one, you know,

898
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: see it, see if he gets qualified. But yeah, he

899
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: ain't gonna forget that one. So alright, Phil, you gotta

900
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: you got a tough one this week. Man. Do you

901
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: want to go with the lighthearted fun fish catching stories

902
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: and fish dying stories? Are you gonna go with like

903
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: the serious fisheries ecological level stories? What are you? What

904
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: are you gonna pick? Buddy? We're all waiting with bated

905
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: breath to find out. Did Miles Nulty bring in the

906
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: most pressing fish stories this week? Yes? But did he

907
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: bring in the most interesting fish stories this week? Also? Yes?

908
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: Despite that, however, in memory of Tarka, I am crowding

909
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: Joe Surmeli the winner. Joe, thank you for your tribute

910
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: to legendary size kings this week. This does not mean, however,

911
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: I want Fish News to turn into an awards show.

912
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: In Memoriam Reel, people will expect us to get Selene

913
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: Dion to sing Hollylujah over some black and white photos

914
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: of dead fish. And we do not have Selene Dion

915
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: in the budget. Maybe Sarah McLaughlin though. Anyway, all this

916
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: death and sadness, I could use a stiff drink. I

917
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: don't know about you. But instead of instead of hitting

918
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: the the local corner bar, which would be easy, let's uh,

919
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: let's head to Australia for this week's That's My Bar.

920
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: Best god damn bar tender from tim Buck to to Portland,

921
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 1: Maine the Portland argument for that matter. This week on

922
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: That's My Bar, we're taking a really long imaginary flight

923
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: to a place I'm not sure I'll ever be able

924
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: to actually afford to fish. This may be as close

925
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: as I ever get. But I must say it's cool

926
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: to have a bar nomination from freaking Victoria, Australia. Right

927
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: we Yes, we said we wanted to hear about bars

928
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: all around the world, and listener Josh Carpenter delivered with

929
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: this gem. Okay, and Josh writes, when you talked about

930
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: the best fishing bars in the world, I immediately thought

931
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: of the Bem River Hotel in East Gippsland area of Australia.

932
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: The entire township has a total of two stores, the

933
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: Bem River Hotel and a tackle shop. Why do I

934
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: not live there? Um, he says, that's the kind of

935
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: place it is. The Bem River Hotel comes with all

936
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: the startup requisites for a fishing bar, forty year old carpet,

937
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: dusty skin mounts on every wall, a large stainless steel

938
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: trough instead of urinals, a golden retriever that has warner

939
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: groove into the floor laying next to the door, and

940
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: monochrome photos of two men standing next to a hundred

941
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: dead fish on the ground from the good old days.

942
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: But if that's not enough, Okay, there's more. There is more.

943
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm already sold man, you retriever on the floor, he says.

944
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: What makes the place really special, though, is that whenever

945
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: fishing tournaments come through town, they will extend trading hours

946
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: and employ extra local people to accommodate the anglers. They

947
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: will cook bacon and egg rolls and make coffee at

948
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: five am, and then serve booze as late as the

949
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: anglers will keep buying it. They also cook a mean

950
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: feed of greasy chicken parmesans on a mountain of fries

951
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: to fuel anglers all of this even though they are

952
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: the only place you could possibly go within sixty miles,

953
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: and he says plenty of other bars on the tournament

954
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: trail won't even keep the kitchen open ten minutes longer

955
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: than normal. That's how you nominate a place, no doubt that.

956
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean que the applause. That's not only does that

957
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: sound like an amazing place, but that guy did a

958
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: fantastic job of describing it. So to him as well,

959
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: Josh from Australia, we brother and I I love this

960
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: And the most striking and educational thing for me is

961
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: that I had no ideas the Ausea's eight chicken palm.

962
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, everybody eats chicken palm. Come on, see,

963
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: like who would have thunks? Like? That's that's what I

964
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: expect to hear from a nomination of a bar where

965
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: like the party boats dock in Brooklyn. Yea, they got

966
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: the fresh Pepper's little Gobbagle, not Australia. That should have

967
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: been like kangaroo Cobab's and deep fried Yabbies or something. Anyway,

968
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: don't do not talk smack on kangaroo meat. It is

969
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: delicious and I'm not joking right now. I I think

970
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: Josh will probably back me up on this. Josh, Kangaroo's delicious.

971
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: Don't anybody tell you different. Josh. You can, you can

972
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: write back in it and back Miles up on that.

973
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: But I have a message for you, man Um. I

974
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: look this place up. Super cool, divy bar meets store,

975
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: convenience store with a boat ramp. It's right in the bay.

976
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 1: But dude, I have some bad news. Per the BEM website,

977
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: the joints for Saleman. So, Josh, if you have the

978
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: financial means, maybe this is a sign that you need

979
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: to purchase this joint and keep Bem's cranking so Miles

980
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: and I can come visit you and drink there. Someday.

981
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: Maybe we take up a collection, we turn it into bents.

982
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: It's our, It's our, our flagship headquarters outside of the US.

983
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Let's get the stickers and T shirts going before we

984
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: start buying buying water and holes. Anyway, we've been enjoying

985
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: all your bar nominations, so please keep those coming. We

986
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: appreciate your help so much. Keep firing them off to

987
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: Bent at the meat Eater dot com so we can

988
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: keep this list growing and give your local hangs some love.

989
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: Be honest, with you, man, I just want to know

990
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: more about Australian fishing tournaments. You know, like we've covered

991
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: the fact that neither one of us is big into

992
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: tournament fishing, at least, you know, not the way it's

993
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: done here in the States. But I gotta imagine the

994
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: Aussees do it up eat down there, you know what

995
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean? I would think so like I mean, they

996
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: seem to have a lot of stuff dial when it

997
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: comes to fishing, because they have, they have so much

998
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: good fishing and so many cool fish in Australia. But

999
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea, like what's their tournament fish? What

1000
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: is it that they are tournament? Is it baron Mundy?

1001
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: Is it Murray cod? Is it Australian bass? I don't know, Josh.

1002
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: If you're still listening, fill us in. We are ignorant

1003
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: about your tournament targets down there, but we like learning

1004
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: stuff also, so we have a listener at least one

1005
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: listener in Australia. So that's pretty cool. That could equate

1006
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: to one couch we could sleep on if if we

1007
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: needed to. But yeah, Josh, let us know, because you know,

1008
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: the bar you mentioned is coastal, so if it's a

1009
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: saltwater tournament. It's even more interesting, like what what do

1010
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: you guys? What do you guys target? What do you know?

1011
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: And they do have very cool fish there, so I've heard.

1012
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I've never fished there myself because I have offensive it

1013
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: is I have, Well, yeah, my I should clarify that

1014
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: that my wife works for an Australian organization, so so

1015
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: she gets to go down or used to be able

1016
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: to go down there back when we could travel a lot,

1017
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: doesn't she she's she's all about those quantum miles. She

1018
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: just rides in the pouch um. I the one time

1019
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: I did get the fish out there, I think I

1020
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: caught the world's smallest murray cod. But those are super

1021
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: cool fish. And if you don't know about him, we'll

1022
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: we'll cover him here at some point because I've I've

1023
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: written about them before and I loved hanging out in Australia.

1024
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: Uh And just a quick tip for other Americans who

1025
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: may go there. I made some poor footwear choices, but

1026
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: you shouldn't bring snake boots. All the Ausse's wear snake

1027
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: boots and running through the bush in shorts and flip

1028
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: flops and the mill of the night is a good

1029
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: way to die. So pro tip for you. I sense

1030
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: that there's a deeper backstory there that either I don't

1031
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: know there's it's a long story. We're gonna have to

1032
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: tell that one in the time. Short version is they

1033
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: have these things called brown snakes. They will kill people

1034
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: very quickly. Uh. I think I only avoided getting bitten

1035
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: through sheer luck and ignorance straight up. Like, hey man, however,

1036
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to stay safe, sheer luck and ignorance,

1037
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: that was sometimes anyway. For all the fascinating and fun

1038
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: fish they have in oz and there are a lot

1039
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: of them, one fish that they don't have our gar

1040
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: And if you're one of the outcasts like me in

1041
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: the Pro Guard fishing camp, listen up because this week's

1042
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: tackle hack comes from our good friend Alvin Dado in Texas,

1043
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: and he's gonna pass along a sweet little nugget for

1044
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: how you can catch more of them cars. I'm getting

1045
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: hats coming from inside the city like the flood at.

1046
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: Today's tackle hack comes to us from renowned fishing guide

1047
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: from all over the West, Alvin Dado. Alvin, how are

1048
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: you man, I'm fantestic, How are you? I'm also fantastic

1049
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: thank you. And you uh, I mean, dude, you you

1050
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: got it all over the place. You've done fresh, you've

1051
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: done salt, you've done rivers, you've done lakes like you

1052
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: just you do it all right, that's right, all waters man.

1053
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: So ask someone who who has guided and fished just

1054
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: about every kind of fishing there is. We brought you

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00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: here to give us one of your favorite tips on

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00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: fish and give us your tackle. Hack man, what do

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00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: you got? All right? I'm calling this one the guard attachment.

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00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: So it is an attachment that you can put on

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00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: your hook, whether it's a fly or spinner, a plug, whatever,

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00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: that will allow you to catch some gr Guar are

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00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: known for having very bony mouths, and it's hard to

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00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: get a hook in the small hooks, big hooks, doesn't

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00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: really matter, but if you really want to give them,

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00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: what you need is a guard attachment. And the guard

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00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: attachment is a piece of nylon rope maybe two inches long.

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00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: You burn one end so it doesn't fray, and then

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00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: you take the other end and fray it out. Now,

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00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: the important part is that you make a pretty good

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00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: sized chunk of burned rope one end, because what you're

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00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: gonna do is poke your hook through that burned section

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00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: of the rope, and that'll keep it on there, so

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00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to tie it on. You don't have

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00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: to make a fly, you don't have to make a

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00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: lure with it on there. You just got a little

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00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: piece of rope that's ready to stick on your hook

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00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: when you want to get a car. And the way

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: it works is gar have barbed teeth, so their teeth

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00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: are designed to grab stuff and hold. They're not designed

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Speaker 1: for cutting. So what happens when the guar grabs the yarn,

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: the barbs and their teeth get tangled up. And what

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00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: you gotta do is you gotta let them take it

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: for a little bit. So let them run with it

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: for a little bit before you set the hook. Even

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00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: though you're not really setting the hook, you're just getting

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00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: the line tight. The teeth are tangled up, and it

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00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: works really well. Now, the thing about it is, uh,

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00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: especially if you want to catch a guard to eat,

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00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: it's a really good technique. But if you're trying to

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: catch gar and release them, bring some gloves and some

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00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: ly and some long dose fliers because you're gonna have

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00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: to You're gonna have to untang will be guard attachment

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00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: from the guard's teeth. If you want to return the

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00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: guard to the water, if you want to keep the

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00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: guard and eat it, you're all good. Whack them on

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00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: the head and yank it out and throw them in

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00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: the cooler. So I always have a guard attachment with

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00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: you so you can get you some car. If this

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00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: wasn't if this was an infomercial, I'd order twelve already

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Speaker 1: right now. That's Monday, Sunday Sunday. Guard Gargard just happened.

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Speaker 1: I just happened to be setting up a website that

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00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: y'all can go to www dot guard attachment dot net.

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00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: Because when you got the guar attachments, you don't need

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00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: no net. I know that guard that's kind of like

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00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: a niche fish, But that is a solid bit of

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00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: wisdom right there. If you're into those, it shouldn't be

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00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: a niche fish. I'm just saying, should should guard are

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00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: so fun and and that's a good tip. I particularly

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00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: if you're a little curious about the guards. I want

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00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: to figure it out that I'm telling you. That's a

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: good tip. I've seen Alvin use that successfully. And and

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01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 1: if anybody out there watched season one of Doss Boat

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: You might recognize that little maneuver because after after Jesse

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01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: Griffith farmed like ten gar on spinner baits and clousers.

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01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: Because just like the hooked wooden stick, Alvin rigged up

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: that guard attachment and Jesse promptly got it done. It worked,

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01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: It worked a charm man. It's a secret weapon, secret

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Speaker 1: weapon of all good gar anglers. Cheap ass nylon rope.

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01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: It is not just for tying off that mintor bucket. No, no, no,

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: it is. It is a tool of of many, many uses.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time to list all the different things

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: you should be doing with your ends of nylon rope

1122
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: because we are coming to the end. But before we go,

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Speaker 1: Joe is going to tell you about a bait with

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Speaker 1: possibly the coolest name of all time in this week's

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Speaker 1: end of the line. Well it's not loud enough. Nomad

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Speaker 1: Design Tackle is an Australian based company that specializes in

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Speaker 1: creating lords that will fool and stand up to big

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Speaker 1: bad blue water brawlers like Tuna and Giant trivollis. Now

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Speaker 1: given that the Aussies have a testing ground with much

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: cooler ship to test on, like those GTS and dog

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01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: Tooth tunas. It's no wonder that Nomad's wears have infiltrated

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01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: the US market, coveted by those like me infatuated with

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01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: casting not trolling for bad as pelagic species. Nomad makes

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: all kinds of cool stuff, But I'm gonna go on

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: record right now and say there is no offering finer

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01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: than the popper they released in two thousand and eighteen

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01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: called the Chug Norris. Now here's the thing, right, I've

1138
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: never fished a Chuck Norris. I don't even own a

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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: Chuck Norris. I've held at Chuck Norris in my hands

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01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: several times at various tackle shops. I've debated the Chuck Norris,

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01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: and each time I've decided I couldn't bring myself to

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01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: drop thirty five smackers on a popper I don't really need. Now,

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01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: to be clear, I'm not saying that Chuck Norris isn't

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01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: worth that kind of money. It's extremely well made, tough

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01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: as nails, and supposedly has design elements that allow it

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01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: to throw a ton of water while being easier to

1147
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: work than other similar offshore poppers. But the thing is,

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: as much as I love throwing poppers at tuna and dolphin.

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: I only get to do it a handful of times

1150
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: this season if I'm lucky, and it's been my experience

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01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: that when you're dealing with a school of hungry boiling

1152
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: tuna or a bulldolphin hovering under some flots um, if

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01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: they're fired up enough to eat a popper, it don't

1154
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: matter if it's a madman as thorn, t popper, pro popper,

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01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: jet popper, bullpop, tuna rocket or tun a hunter. And

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01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: I have plenty of all of those, which essentially means

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01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: I only want to buy a Chuck Norris because it's

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: called the Chuck Norris, which brings us to why I've

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: included this lure that I've never actually thrown. In end

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01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: of the line, I distinctly recall walking up on the

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01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: Nomad booth at eye Cast, which is the big tackle

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01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: industry trade show back in seeing the sign reading Chuck

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01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: Norris and swooning as I remember, I had to brace

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01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: myself on the table of a man selling beer koozies

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01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: that had led lights in them and coolers that featured

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01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: built in deep fat friars. It was and still remains

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 1: the best god damn lure name I've ever heard it's

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01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: worthy of owning and throwing. Just so you can include

1169
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: the words Chuck Norris in your Instagram posts. Think of

1170
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: the witty pop culture e possibilities. Chuck Norris doesn't shower,

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01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: He only takes blood baths. When Chuck Norris does division,

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01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: there are no remainders. There is no theory of evolution,

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01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 1: just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.

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01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: And for those of you that travel to fish, keep

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01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: Chuck Norris once visited the Virgin Islands. They are now

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01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: the islands in your back pocket. Don't worry, all you

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: Middle America listeners that have no use for a seven

1178
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: inch popper. They can tackle of fish as big and

1179
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: heavy as your lawn tractor. Nomad also makes three point

1180
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: seven five inch Chuck Norris models, which would probably catch

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01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: some muskies or some some hog large mouths. Uh. And

1182
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: that said, though, you know, for a time there was

1183
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: even an itty bitty two inch freshwater Chuck Norris that

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01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: featured patterns like frog and crayfish, but it appears to

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01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: be discontinued, probably because y'all are doing just fine with

1186
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: your pop bars and hula poppers. But my pop bar

1187
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: came in contact with the coronavirus. Now the coronavirus is

1188
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: quarantining for two weeks, just doesn't have the same ring.

1189
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: Well that's it for this week. Hopefully you now know

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01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: how to tell when a Canadian is making fun of you,

1191
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: why you should never ever leave a newlywed couple in

1192
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: your boat alone for more than ten minutes, no matter

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: how old they are, and why Joe always carries a

1194
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: bag of nine on rope soaked in bacon grease in

1195
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: his front pocket. I do. And if you have crafted

1196
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: any of your own bacon grease tricks, please tell us

1197
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: about them. Email us at bent at the meat eater

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: dot com. We always appreciate hearing from you guys, even

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01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: if you're just writing in to tell us what we

1200
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: can do better. Absolutely, and if you are digging the show,

1201
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: please let the world know. Give us some stars, leave

1202
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: us a review, or better yet, tell your friends. We

1203
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: won't ask you for money like those NPR jumps, but

1204
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: we will continue asking for your help getting the word

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01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: out because that's what allows us to have jobs. I mean,

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01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: if you're assuming you can call this a job, it

1207
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: could be worse too. We could be restocking the air

1208
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: purifiers at the sharper Image over there, they're selling like hotcakes.

1209
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,479
Speaker 1: I hear. Anyway, sharp Image still exists, Yeah, I think

1210
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: at least maybe anyway, And so next time, make sure

1211
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: your coffee is black rifle, and make sure you check

1212
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: your whole for that drain plug. Hey, do you guys

1213
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: remember bonus tracks hidden secret tracks at the end of

1214
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: a CD. Sometimes they'd be like track four thousand, or

1215
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: you had to listen for like five minutes after the

1216
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: last song. If you stuck around this long, you're about

1217
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: to get a bonus track. Because, as it turns out,

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: river Horse from our Sage Lee Wisdom with river Horse

1219
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: segment in the last episode had not actually listened to

1220
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: our podcast before recording that, and apparently now he has

1221
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: a much better sense of what we're doing. No, the

1222
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: whole thing. River Horse came on because I called him

1223
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: and said, hey man, we'd like to get you on

1224
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: our podcast. But apparently he never did his due diligence

1225
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: and didn't know what he was contributing to. So after

1226
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: he actually listened to the show, he sent us this

1227
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: voice message that we are now going to play for

1228
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: you as a little bonus. And Joe Way, oh yes, yes,

1229
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: and hell Yes, what a fine, fine, superfine riff of

1230
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 1: a podcast. Boys, honor to be on there with you.

1231
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: Now I see what kind of party it is. I'm

1232
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna pull out all the stops on the next one.

1233
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: Get ready for a throw down, a full on fight

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: on the playground. Baby, But let's have a little chat

1235
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: Joe and Miles in my lord, how come I can't

1236
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: be the Cherokee Viking love child of James Harrold Jones

1237
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: and Fabio, or perhaps the tree hugger Texas fly fishing

1238
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: hid been Morgan Freeman. M hmm, Now that I think

1239
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: about it, the in your reference makes me feel kind

1240
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: of prom nights sexy. Oh thanks again for having me

1241
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: along for that, Red, And I'm gonna whisper sweet nothings

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: in your ears, some pisty flow spulling t