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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mike Tomlin had a press conference today and as

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Speaker 2: he said, he'd spoken to Russell Wilson earlier in the

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Speaker 2: day and Russell's feeling better. But Mike Tomlin says, at

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Speaker 2: this point, we're sticking with Justin Fields right now as

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Speaker 2: our quarterback. We don't know what the situation is with

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, whether he's going to be available or not

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Speaker 2: this week. So the plan is get Justin Fields ready

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Speaker 2: to play, see if that ends up being the case

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Speaker 2: by the time the Steelers get to us Sunday in Denver, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lolly, this is the

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Speaker 2: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network, and Matt I'm not shocked, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that Tomlin treated that this way. In fact, I kind

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Speaker 2: of expected it to be the case. It wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to come out, you know, two days after Wilson wasn't

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Speaker 2: healthy enough to start. Sure, he's good to go, but

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Speaker 2: there seems to be a lot of reaction to this, like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, does this mean that they're going to

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Speaker 2: stick with justin fields rest of a way, I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's the case.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case either. I think Wilson

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Speaker 3: is the better player that gives them a better chance

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Speaker 3: to win. And I think they recognize that, let alone,

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Speaker 3: not the field as a bad leader. But Wilson's a

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Speaker 3: team captain. He's brought in the start. He's done nothing

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Speaker 3: to deter them from that thought, that original thought. If anything,

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Speaker 3: I think he strengthened his case even though he has

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Speaker 3: been on the field a time. But if his mobility's

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Speaker 3: a problem, that's a problem, you know, I mean.

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Speaker 2: It is, And look no further than the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Kirk Cousins was obviously not able to move

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Speaker 2: as much as you. He's not a big mover to

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Speaker 2: begin with, so he was obviously not at one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: and they adjusted their game plan accordingly. Everything was out

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Speaker 2: of the shotgun or the pistol formation. Yeah. Yeah. He

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Speaker 2: didn't take any snaps under center because of that.

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Speaker 3: And they didn't use play action once.

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Speaker 2: Not once, not once the entire game. And that's something

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Speaker 2: he's good at. So when you put a quarterback out

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Speaker 2: there who is limited in terms of mobility, there are

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Speaker 2: things that you have to do schematically to adjust to that.

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Speaker 2: And if you have a healthy backup, why put yourself

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Speaker 2: through that. Agreed, It's a long season. It's not just

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Speaker 2: you know, somebody going.

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Speaker 3: To Clifford right right, It's not that situation at all.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I know I can win games with this guy.

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Speaker 3: Just saw it, I mean, and all those good things. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think we need to define mobility too, you know,

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Speaker 3: like designed runs, like justin fields. We may see a

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Speaker 3: few of those when Wilson's one hundred percent the field,

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Speaker 3: not like fields, and he's not gonna get ten carries

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Speaker 3: a game. Of course, they'll scramble here and there, as

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Speaker 3: he has through his whole career, but less than he

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Speaker 3: did ten years ago. Him and Cousins are the same

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Speaker 3: draft class. I mean, it's a somewhat of a camp.

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Speaker 3: Cousin's injuries way more serious he's coming off of. But

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Speaker 3: what I really wanted to stress with Wilson that you

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Speaker 3: and I wouldn't know even if probably we were practice,

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Speaker 3: is he's short and he needs to move around.

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Speaker 2: The sea in the pocket.

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Speaker 3: Yes, his mobility within the pocket is instrumental to his game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw even in the course of that

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Speaker 2: game on Sunday against the Falcons, we saw the Steelers

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Speaker 2: moving the pocket a lot. That's what this offense is

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Speaker 2: going to look like. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, that's when Wilson did some of his best

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Speaker 3: work in Seattle too, a lot of designed rollouts. Now,

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Speaker 3: Fields was simplified a little bit. But I also think

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Speaker 3: it was because there.

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Speaker 2: Was like a one read thing. He had the guy

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Speaker 2: on the drag route or he could run. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: that was pretty much it.

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Speaker 3: And because I think they didn't they when they when

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Speaker 3: all right, let's simplify things. We know Fields has thrown

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Speaker 3: a lot of interceptions in his career. We can't have that,

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Speaker 3: you know, So keep your feet moving towards the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage, either left or right. He rolls left well,

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Speaker 3: by the way, not all quarterbacks do. And here's options.

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Speaker 2: Down the side. Take the outside row or take the

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Speaker 2: four yard run. And yeah, we're happy with it. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: that'll work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's not gonna be the offense all year.

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Speaker 2: No, that's what people who think that we saw the

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Speaker 2: Steelers offense as in his totality in one game, No,

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Speaker 3: That is not the case, not the case, not the case.

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be a lot different, not a lot different,

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Speaker 3: but it's gonna be noticeably different for Fields than Wilson.

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Speaker 3: And I also think if Wilson were the starter and

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Speaker 3: Fields is in the game, you're gonna have design power runs,

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Speaker 3: you know, like that are really hard to stop with

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Speaker 2: No, No, And and you know, I think looking at

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Speaker 2: this like if this if Sunday's game was a playoff game,

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Speaker 2: different start. I think this is a different story. If

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Speaker 2: Sunday's game was a divisional game that was a must

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Speaker 2: you know, you will have you really want to win

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Speaker 2: these games, you want to win them all, of course.

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Speaker 2: But I think looking at the opponent and what Denver

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Speaker 2: this and going, well, we don't need to rush Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson back for this game. Because if Justin Fields plays

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Speaker 2: the same way that he did Sunday against Atlanta. We

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Speaker 2: probably win this, we should win this game.

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Speaker 3: It's it's an inferior opponent in a hostile, difficult environment.

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Speaker 2: I have the environment all. I don't think that Steeler

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Speaker 2: fans will take over Denver Stadium quite the same way.

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Speaker 3: And the altitude scares me because Denver's really good at

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Speaker 3: home early in the year. But they're a pretty bad team.

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Speaker 3: And there it was just over five yards.

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Speaker 2: A completion comp like that is not going to test

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Speaker 3: And I hear you, and I wonder, not that we'd

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Speaker 3: ever know the answer, but if last sun Day or

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Speaker 3: a playoff game Wilson might have played thing, who's to say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he gets you there and you trust

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Speaker 3: him at this point and not they don't trust him,

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Speaker 3: but he may have been close and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how else could you handle it as a

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Speaker 2: With installed day. Yeah, right now, Wednesday, you're installing your

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Speaker 2: game plan. And from what Mike Tomlins said today, it

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Speaker 2: Looks like he'll probably be at least limited, right, So,

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Speaker 2: we need to install Denver stuff for whoever's gonna be

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Speaker 2: taking stabs. Tomlin's point, he said, he said, I want

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Speaker 2: to see what Justin Fields looks like with a full

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Speaker 3: That's not a thing too. Like I'm not sure when

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Speaker 2: To start Wilson's Wilson took all the offensive snaps on

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Speaker 2: Wednesday last week, installing the game plan to play against Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: shows up on Thursday with the tightness in his calf. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that makes sense. He still did some stuff on Thursday

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Speaker 2: He was limited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like he did a camp a bunch,

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Speaker 3: Like he was always out there before practice, after practice

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Speaker 3: and I think it's a really precautionary too. You know, again,

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Speaker 3: if this was a long season do or die situation,

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Speaker 3: considering that you have a talented backup, use them, you know.

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Speaker 2: Now. The question now is what if Fields goes out

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Speaker 2: there and lights up the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: That'd be great problem to have. Of course, I don't

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Speaker 3: think Week one was enough to No, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I thought he played fine. He didn't do anything to say, oh,

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Speaker 3: To start him over over Russell Wilson, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he'd have to be really good to not stuff the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. But if he was, Wow,

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Speaker 2: because he could in the past.

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Speaker 3: Clifford's not gonna do that for the Packers.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Everybody like, oh my god, this is what we

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Speaker 2: thought he was coming out of o High State. You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's possible against a bad defense, not

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Speaker 2: they put twenty seven points on the board. Yeah, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he'd have to do, because then

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Speaker 3: it's a weird dynamic in terms of all right, Russ

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Speaker 3: now you're the two. Yeah, and he didn't really lose

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Speaker 3: the job. No, And that's it's not Watson being terrible

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Speaker 2: A situation where and I'm assuming I haven't ever asked

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Speaker 2: Watt and Cam Hayward and make a Fitzpatrick to call

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Speaker 3: I would imagine, I would imagine. I'm sure it wasn't

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Speaker 2: It may have friends or whatever. I mean, they may

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Speaker 2: have gotten wind of it and said, hey, how about

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Speaker 2: But they did that.

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Speaker 3: They did that, and they went other way. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and that matters, and there is a dynamic there. And

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Speaker 3: Wilson has a lot of pelts on the wall and

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Speaker 3: a lot of cash.

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Speaker 2: Show weeks ago, the team voted him the offensive captain.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, which isn't a knock on fields of course, but

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Speaker 3: they didn't. It wasn't brought here to be the two,

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Speaker 3: and he wasn't they like the captain to be the two, right,

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Speaker 2: And you're going to need him to everybody's points about

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Speaker 2: needing to score more points, to be healthy, to be

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Speaker 2: need that, when you're going to have to score you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think like in conclusion, we'll see o

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Speaker 3: the rest of the week goes. Of course, of course,

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Speaker 3: but if he's questionable, I think you do the same thing,

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Speaker 3: and he's the emergency three again for this he might

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Speaker 3: be the two, maybe the two, maybe the two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would make some sense to but I don't think

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Speaker 3: there'll be a package for him. I mean Fields would

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Speaker 3: play every snap until otherwise, Yes, he was terrible, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because picks left and right maybe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's differ Yeah, but I just think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: we can go into this game with Justin Fields making

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Speaker 3: It was gonna be at least two games.

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Speaker 2: Matt Wadamson except no imitations. And Matt. It is Tuesday, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the first Tuesday of the AH. I know where we're

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Speaker 3: Real quick We kind of touched on it on a

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Speaker 3: I actually had the Pats thirty two and them thirty

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00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 3: one when I did my preseason final preseason one, and

437
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 3: now they're not closed.

438
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah at thirty one. The New York Football Giants.

439
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't think they're cooked yet. But that was miserable.

440
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: That was a bad one.

441
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 3: I mean, like you gotta get the shovel. I'll start digging,

442
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 3: you know. Now.

443
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: The thing that's in their favor is that they play

444
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: Washington this week. Oh, there can't be far off. I

445
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: think they might be better than Washington.

446
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: I thought so two days ago, four days ago or whatever.

447
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: Washington doesn't have much talent.

448
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 2: There's not much there. Giants least have some dudes. At

449
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: thirty are the Raiders. That's a litty harsh. That's a

450
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 2: little harsh. I'd have them a little bit higher.

451
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: They played the Chargers neck and neck and lost the

452
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 3: close one. I don't think either team great. I think

453
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: they're both below average.

454
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: It was sixteen to ten halfway through the fourth quarter.

455
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders are favored against the Patriots right now.

456
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: I think so in Washington. Yeah, yeah, at twenty nine

457
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: down three spots is Washington. Yeah, I think they're gonna

458
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 2: live down there too. Yeah. I think they're not a

459
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 2: very good football. No, defensively they are.

460
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: They've d tackles and nothing else awful.

461
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: At twenty eight down a spot. The team the Steelers

462
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: face this week, the Denver Broncos.

463
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 3: Wasn't a good showing, was not. I mean it sounds

464
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: like you've done some of those. You dig into the numbers,

465
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 3: and we talked about some of them yesterday. It's pretty miserable.

466
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 2: There was just nothing there challenging offensively at all. And

467
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: Sean Payton is supposed to be an offensive genius, right,

468
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: and you can't scheme up anything.

469
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: Everything short and yeah, any time that was even close

470
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 3: to going downfield, it was the Sutton tight ends don't

471
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: offer much. The running backs are fine.

472
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: That is what O for ten On passes of ten

473
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 2: or more yard, it was bad.

474
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: Real bad, and the defense has one guy that's a star,

475
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 3: and then a bunch of yeah absolutely, yeah uh.

476
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 2: At twenty seven up four spots the New England Patriots.

477
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: New England better show up pretty soon.

478
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: That might be as they go. That might be as go.

479
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they gotta I hate the word rusty

480
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: but unprepared Bengals team that never plays well early in

481
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 3: the season. But I give the Patriots credit. I mean

482
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: there there were a handful of teams, including the Steelers,

483
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 3: that the Chargers the Patriots that ran the ball, play

484
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: good defense, didn't turn.

485
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: Out say that the Patriots played a very Steeler like script.

486
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought the Chargers did too, you know,

487
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: like we're not gonna throw it all over the field.

488
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: We're controlling the flow.

489
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: Of the difference is though the Chargers have the quarterback

490
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: that's supposed to be able to do that kind of stuff,

491
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: they just don't have any row to right.

492
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'll think the Steeler do over all those teams, yes,

493
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: but right, But I don't think the Patriots served would

494
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: go much higher.

495
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: Than No, I don't think so either. I don't think

496
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: they ever get above twenty five.

497
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: I don't know they're better than denever, either.

498
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: No.

499
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: Down a spot the Tennessee Titans.

500
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 3: Lewis is a problem.

501
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: He's a problem. I want to see where Chicago's at

502
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: on this list because Chicago was bad in that game.

503
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: We think a lot alike because I ended today's podcast

504
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: saying and the crux of the podcast was I'm gonna

505
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: do my power ranks tonight. I wasn't doing them yet,

506
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: but like, who were the big adjustments? And I'm like,

507
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: if the Bears and Titans played one hundred and eleven times,

508
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 3: it might be fifty five to fifty six, you know

509
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, these guys are pretty equal. I

510
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: don't know that either is better than I thought. And

511
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 3: I think either one of those teams play most teams

512
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: in the league, they get be pretty bad.

513
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: Tale Williams threw for ninety three yards in that game. Yeah,

514
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: and they did not score an offensive touchdowns and score

515
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: a touchdown right, Like Justin Fields was way better than that.

516
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, markedly in Levis Levas was just

517
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: really horrendous, especially in the second half.

518
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: I didn't realize this. DeAndre Hopkins was out there for

519
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: only like twenty snaps, but he's played on a tour

520
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: at MCL. They might not get him all year. Really, yeah,

521
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: they might shut him down.

522
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not troublesome. It's not great. Uh at

523
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: twenty five down a spot, Arizona defense is horrible. It

524
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: is Mt Kindra. They were They gave everything both Loo

525
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: can handle. In Buffalo, they were like that last year. Yeah,

526
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: you know.

527
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: I mean they didn't use Marvin Harrison, but that doesn't

528
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: mean he wasn't impacting the game.

529
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: No. I think Arizona can hang at twenty four up

530
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: four spots. And he's probably too low on these guys

531
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: to begin with. With the Saints, he probably was. I

532
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: remember when we did it, we thought they're a lot

533
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: closer to average.

534
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: Than Yeah, they're twenty six around twenty yeah, yeah, and

535
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: they were very impressive.

536
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: They'd bet a terrible team, but they were very impressive

537
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: at twenty three down four spots. Are the Falcons, I.

538
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: Guess you have to drop them, and my concerns wouldn't

539
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: be are they going to be in contention for the

540
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: NFC South. I think they will. I think they'll get better.

541
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: I just don't know where Cousins is at right now. Yeah,

542
00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: that would worry about.

543
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: It was troubling. Yeah, we talked about it before the game,

544
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: and he did nothing during the game to dispel any

545
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: of that.

546
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: No, I mean him, Watson Burrow, there's another day with

547
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: tip my tongue too, Like are these guys healthy?

548
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: Ye know what I mean?

549
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: I don't know Rogers, Yeah, he didn't last night, but

550
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: he was didn't look great.

551
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: At twenty two down a spot of the Colts.

552
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: Their defense, we don't talk about this enough, is so vanilla.

553
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: They're the only ones running that old school Seattle cover three.

554
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: Coordinator's too smart for that now, I mean from what

555
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: I understand him. And uh, Sirianni the head coach or

556
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: like super super tight and this is in Bradley's like

557
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: the nicest guy, but.

558
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: He's an offensive coach and he's Yeah, but you can't

559
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: just run the same stuff over and over today in

560
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: the NFL, not unless you have outstanding talent, right, and

561
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't have that.

562
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: I was talking about when I was with the Browns.

563
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: Butch Davis did with the Yeah, because they had first

564
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: run picks at every position.

565
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: We've had again, you know super Steelers from the super

566
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: seventies teams on we just we only ran like five

567
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: or four or five defensive plays right, hall of famers

568
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: all over the field. Yeah, you don't have to worry about it. Yeah,

569
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: and the and back to that scheme when the Legion

570
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: of the Boom was the Legion of Boom.

571
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, we got better guys than.

572
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: You speaking in which Seattle is up wins spot to

573
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: twenty one.

574
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: I was encouraged. I think they kind of figured it

575
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: out as the game went along. You know, young staff

576
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: defense caused some problems, caused a lot of problems from

577
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: Denver and Knicks. And I'd keep an eye on like

578
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 3: Walker's injury though, And I think Sharponnae got banged up

579
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: a little bit.

580
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: He did too. Yeah, so see where that goes. At

581
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: twenty up three spots Minnesota.

582
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: Huge win, but I wouldn't get too crazy about it. Yeah,

583
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: coming in well done.

584
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: At nineteen down two spots Jacksonville, they should find a

585
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: way to screw it up. Yeah, I mean that was

586
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: a very winnable game. They were up twenty four to seven. Yeah,

587
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: a very winnable game.

588
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: Eight t M with them miserable fumble and then Tyreek

589
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: over the top. Yeah, that's probably about where they belong.

590
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: This is interesting though.

591
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: At eighteen down four spots let me know if there's

592
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: if this team should be lower Cleveland.

593
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: I would drop them from wherever I had them to

594
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: start the season.

595
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: I might have him below Jacksonville.

596
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: I think they're a dog in Jacksonville or in a neutral.

597
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: I know about Minnisoda, but I might have him below Seattle. Yeah,

598
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: that would do. I mean, quarterbacks too important. You can't

599
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: be that bad at quarterback. Yeah, and be even in

600
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: the top e like they're awful. I mean if the

601
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: seam Watson is not a good football player.

602
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: No, and if they're not to the point now Miles

603
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: Garrett and everyone's going to know it now, like you

604
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: start trotting him out there, it's going to be a

605
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: miserable situation. Yeah, that's the highest i'd even consider putting. Well,

606
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: I mean probably a few spots lower and behind Jacksonville

607
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: for sure.

608
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

609
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: By the way, i'd have the Chargers listed by now too,

610
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: just because they beat the Raiders' right, No, you're right, yeah, Uh,

611
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: it's seventeen up a spot Pittsburgh.

612
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: Have them with the Chargers.

613
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: I have him over everybody listed so far for sure.

614
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, it's sixteen up four spots, so the leapfrog

615
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: to Steelers is Tampa Bay because they beat.

616
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: Up on a terrible team. Baker was really good. I

617
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: mean it was an encouraging day for sure. I mean

618
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: they played very well.

619
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: But Washington's defense.

620
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: It's really bad, really bad Starbucks fantasy dudes against that group. Yeah,

621
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: fifteen Bowls also an awful matchup for a rookie quarterback.

622
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just schematically fifteen up a spot. This team should

623
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: not be ahead of the Steelers the Chicago Bears.

624
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: No, I would have the Bears below the Vikings, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,

625
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: so in that in below Seattle, Yeah, that's below Cleveland.

626
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Cleveland defense would shut them down.

627
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: I would have the Chargers and Bears in below those

628
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: teams we just mentioned. Yeah, well certainly below Jacksonville.

629
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: At fourteen up a spot, the Rams, we're still not

630
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: to the Chargers. Wow, I don't get that. With the Chargers.

631
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: That's about where the Rams are at. I mean, yeah,

632
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: their line is a mess.

633
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: Is a mess. And now the Coup is out for

634
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: a stretch. And there are three weeks sets all the time.

635
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: I heard this morning, So when you're placed on IR,

636
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: it's four games, not four weeks. They're bye week is

637
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: also in there as well, so he's going to miss

638
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: five games. For you fantasy people out there, it's not

639
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: this is fantasy week at least four weeks at least

640
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: four games or at least five games four weeks of

641
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: actual play, but five games overall for fantasy value. I

642
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: don't know what you do with that.

643
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: I feel like they're getting hit harder with injuries than

644
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: anybody getting killed, especially on I mean one side the

645
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: ball too.

646
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh at thirteen down a spot, so something. He

647
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: has the Chargers somewhere in the top well, way too high.

648
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Thirteen down a spot of the Jets.

649
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: They were bad last night.

650
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: They were not good at all. I expect an.

651
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a tough game, don't get me wrong,

652
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: but i've and even the offensive ineptitude didn't totally surprise me.

653
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: I thought the Jets d would be better than that, though.

654
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean they scored them like eight straight possessions or

655
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: something crazy the wrong, right, I mean, the Jets desh

656
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: has to be better than that.

657
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: At twelve, up one spot the Chargers, so he had

658
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: him at thirteen. He had him way over ranked to

659
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: begin with.

660
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd be twentieth to me or in that neighbor.

661
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: But they beat the Raiders twenty two to ten. I

662
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: mean the Raiders are not good at all.

663
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: No, it's a nice win. The Raiders were like his

664
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: thirty first team or thirtieth team. Yeah, I mean it's

665
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: not that impressive.

666
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: It's different than the Steelers and Falcons were right next

667
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: to each other last year at seventeen or last week.

668
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: I think at seventeen and eighteen, that's a big difference.

669
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: You went into the eighteenth best team according to these rankings,

670
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: and you were a dog in the game. Yeah, and

671
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: we're an underdog and beat them. The Chargers were favored

672
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 2: in this game and they beat the team that was

673
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: twenty ninth.

674
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: I I mean, it seems to be common across the

675
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: media right now, but I just don't see it with

676
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: the Chargers. I mean, I think Harbaugh is a great

677
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: coach and instilled some things, and he played the brand

678
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: that they have to play, But I don't think that

679
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: makes them better than a lot of those teams.

680
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: No, I hear you, and eleven only down two spots,

681
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: and I might have to move them lower than this

682
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: given what the their current state are. The Packers.

683
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny you mentioned that because my exact words

684
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: today and we're chatting about power rank stuff. Was I

685
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: assume he's doing power ranks like I do? Like, how

686
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: are you good?

687
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: Are you?

688
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: This minute?

689
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: Right now? This minute? If they have to start Malik

690
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: Willis like they're talking about.

691
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: I said, I'd have them like twenty fifth or twenty six. Yeah,

692
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: I mean, like that's what they are. And they lost

693
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: last week. Oh by the way, right yeah, yeah, I

694
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: mean they weren't super impressive in that game. And you're

695
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars quarterbacks on the shelf and you don't

696
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: have fields or somebody like that behind him, or a

697
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: Minshew or.

698
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 2: Something like that.

699
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a trouble the other in trouble. They're

700
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: gonna lose a lot of games here for until he

701
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: comes back. Yeah, I may even put him lower in

702
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: twenty five. Like they don't beat the Bears or Vikings

703
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: right now.

704
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: The strength of that team is all the offensive weapons,

705
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: right the guys they can throw it to. We've seen

706
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: time and again when Malik Wallace has been in there.

707
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: No they haven't let him throw the ball.

708
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean like they don't beat the

709
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: Browns right now, no, no, no chance.

710
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: They don't beat any of the eight or nine teams

711
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: right behind them.

712
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, in these, I mean how he points they score

713
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: against the Browns right now? Three if they're a lot right,

714
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: you know, get it past the midfield.

715
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: That's if Deshaun Watson throws them one. Yeah. Maybe yeah.

716
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: At ten down four spots, Cincinnati.

717
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: They're pretty miserable. They deserve to be dropped. That's probably fair.

718
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: No, it is. Yeah, they always seem to do that

719
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: in the opener, I know.

720
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean eventually you got to call it head coach

721
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: a little bit on that.

722
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't have them ready. At nine up two spots, Miami, I'd.

723
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: Love to see since he played Miami right now and

724
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: see how that goes. I mean, either one could blow

725
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: the other one's doors off or it could be a battle.

726
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: But Miami was a much better team in Week one

727
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: than Cincinnati was. At eight up two spots, Dallas, I

728
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: might even have.

729
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: Him a little higher. Defense played well on the defense, but

730
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: a lot of that was also Deshaun Watson.

731
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think Zimmer and Parsons is a nice combination.

732
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: At seven up a spot, Buffalo, cool, They're good. It's

733
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna be a good Thursday night game. Yeah, it's gonna

734
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: be right Miami Buffalo.

735
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you Buffalo ahead of Miami? Yeah, I think

736
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: I would too.

737
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, at six up a spot.

738
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: Houston, I would even have them a little higher. I

739
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: would have them over Baltimore right now.

740
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: At five down two spots is Baltimore. I'm with you, though,

741
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: I would have Houston ahead of And I'm sure they'll

742
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: figure it out. And it's just the old line. To me,

743
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: that's the big thing. I don't know, I don't know

744
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: they will figure that out there.

745
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say. It's like the

746
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: hardest position to quote figure out to.

747
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: Your offensive line coach died right three weeks ago, two

748
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: weeks ago, whenever that was. And then it's not like

749
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Munhoz is coming walking through the door, and you

750
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: have what you have. You have what you have.

751
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe Rose and Garden gets better and turns

752
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: into a solid right tackle by mid season.

753
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: But nobody's trading them an offensive lineman because nobody has

754
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: a spare offensive line.

755
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not a position that you want to

756
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: be behind the eight ball right now, like the Rams

757
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 3: with their injuries right more, forget about it.

758
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, even so they might be in trouble at FO

759
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: up a spot Philadelphia if Houston head of Philadelphia.

760
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: Had a pretty good game, Yeah, yeah, Dallas or Philly,

761
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: I'd say Philly.

762
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: I think I just think Philly is a better team.

763
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they have more I think Dallas is

764
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: lacking a run game, yeah, more line issues.

765
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: I mean they're running Ezekiel all Yeah. I don't like

766
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: that five years ago, Ezekiel Allen. That's not gonna work.

767
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Three up a spot, Detroit.

768
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: Top three to me are definitely Casey, Sam Frand and Detroit.

769
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: From the number two Casey number one.

770
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: I think number four is where you start to have

771
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 3: a conversation. Yeah, who would be your four? I think

772
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: I'd go with Houston, but I think the Eagles have

773
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: a strong case too.

774
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: I'd go Philly, Houston. Dallas would be my next one. Dallas. Yeah,

775
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: they gotta have Dallas over the AFC North. Yeah right

776
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: now today, and I can't. I just I'm not that

777
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: high on Baltimore. I'm just not not as high as

778
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: I think they're around ten, closer to ten than they are.

779
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: I think you agree with me because we've talked about

780
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: this thousand times, but I had since you over Baltimore.

781
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, to start the season.

782
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Baltimore they both lost and Baltimore's wasn't as bad.

783
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: And it wasn't it against home and yeah.

784
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: But it was frightening the way that they were laid

785
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: even because of the problems that are obvious.

786
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Harbaugh comes out today and says, we didn't

787
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: sign Derrick Henry to be a thirty carry per game. Guy,

788
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: what'd you sign him for? That?

789
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: That's what he does. That's the beauty of Yeah, that's

790
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: what he does. That's the beauty of h Yeah, you

791
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: don't want to give him twelve carries?

792
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: No, that was silly, And six of them came on

793
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: the opening possession. Like then you just ignored him the

794
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: rest of the game.

795
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: Block anybody plan was to give them the ball a lot,

796
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: and he got out of it.

797
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but those are Eric Otaholmes rankings

798
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: after Week one. The Steelers getting very little love there.

799
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm guilty of this too. I mean, wherever

800
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: you start teams, it's harder to move them. It is

801
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: one game, you had a bad game, He'll figure it out,

802
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And I mean the Steelers are playing

803
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: with a backup quarterback. But that was a pretty good

804
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 3: win on the road backup quarterback. Yeah yeah, I mean

805
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: the defensive performance was as good as ending in the league.

806
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. So against a team that a lot of people

807
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: were picking to win that division. I mean he bumped

808
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: up Tampa Bay four spots for smoking. Yeah, a bad

809
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Washington team.

810
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 3: Not here have the Steelers high. I definitely have Chargers lower.

811
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's that to me is a well that'll that'll

812
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: even itself out here of Jackson over the Chargers. Yeah, yeah,

813
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: the browns of the Chargers. Yeah, yeah, we doo yep.

814
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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

815
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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. That

816
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: was the power rankings for the first Tuesday of the

817
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: regular season. Matt and I will be back with more

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Speaker 2: right after.

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Speaker 1: This your home for the Steelers. This is the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. This is the Drive with Dale Lolly

821
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

823
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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

824
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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt I don't know how closely

825
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Speaker 2: you followed this story that kind of broke this morning,

826
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: But a new lawsuit fouled against Browns quarterback to Shawn Watson. Yeah,

827
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: I just saw the headlines alleging that he sexually assaulted

828
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: a somebody he was on a date with at some point.

829
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: And this is when he was still in Houston. I'm

830
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: didn't come out, right, didn't come out well, you know,

831
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: he was still in Houston and when all the other

832
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: stuff was coming out.

833
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: But it did, and it is slightly different than what

834
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: he was accused of before.

835
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it is very different. But it brings up the

836
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: idea that the league is looking into this. They're going

837
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: to investigate, they're going to see what happens here. And

838
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: the Browns have said, hey, we're gonna let the league

839
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 2: take care of this. Well, we don't have any comment

840
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: on this right now. So what would happen if the

841
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: league comes down and says, yeah, we're gonna suspend him again. Well,

842
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: the Browns could then say that's a violation of the

843
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: terms of his car on tract. Right, we're gonna.

844
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: Avoid that, which would be the best thing that could

845
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: ever happen to the Browns, I mean just football.

846
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. So if they would do that, yes,

847
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have to pay him the ninety what is it,

848
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: ninety some million dollars that they still remaining money. Yeah,

849
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: the remaining money that they own. They would be out

850
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 2: from underneath that, which is nice, ninety two million dollars

851
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: that they get they guaranteed have to pay him over

852
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: the final two seasons of this contract after this one.

853
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so they'd be out that that comes off the books.

854
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they wouldn't have to pay Jimmy Hasselm would not

855
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: have to write those checks. What it wouldn't do would

856
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: be alleviate any of the camp ramifications because they've continually

857
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: kicked the can down the road.

858
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: With you said they shouldn't get off scott free though.

859
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: So here's what it would be.

860
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: If something were to happen and they release him now

861
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: or at the end of the season, you violate your

862
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: contract and you're gone, his cap hit in twenty twenty

863
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: five would be eighty point seven seven million dollars. Wow.

864
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: You know if there's any more past that.

865
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: Well, they could designate him a post June first, twenty

866
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: twenty five relief please. Yeah, that would mean the cap

867
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: charge will be twenty six point nine million for twenty

868
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: twenty five and fifty three point eight million and twenty

869
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: twenty six.

870
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Speaker 3: Okay, which I'm sure that's what they would do. It's

871
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: strategically more competitive.

872
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: I mean, like, then we're not gonna go to quarterback

873
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: that right, you know.

874
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: I mean, and you also short a quarterback, but you're

875
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: not getting your money's worth out of him.

876
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: Mostly they're obvious. They haven't to this point, no any

877
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: trade in contract in NFL history.

878
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: Basically that's interesting. I mean, in some ways, through terrible circumstances.

879
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: If he's guilty, of course, I mean we're not even

880
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: talking about the young lady that the Browns would benefit.

881
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: They would. At the same time, I wonder if the league,

882
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: like remember when they suspended him for eleven games, It

883
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: wasn't ten, it was eleven on purpose, screw them up

884
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: with the couldn't roll the next year? Could he couldn't

885
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: roll that contract over? No, you got to eat it all.

886
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: Now he's on the he's on your roster, and you

887
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: got to pay him.

888
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: I would think anything the league can do that is

889
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: one way or another will not favor them not.

890
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: Going to benefit Cleveland because opposing teams around the league

891
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: were unhappy with that contract because it was fully guaranteed

892
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: for a guy who essentially was a scumbag. Yeah right.

893
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: I mean if that would have been mahomes offer, I

894
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: think the other owners have been.

895
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, we get it.

896
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if we knew it was coming eventually,

897
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: he's the right guy, you know, as opposed to he

898
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: did it for him.

899
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys who never played for you, Yeah, who's

900
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: facing a lot dozens of sexual assault allegations, and that's

901
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: the guy you decided to make the face of your

902
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 2: franchise and fully guarantee a contract. No one's gonna feel

903
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: bad for the Brownses, not one Io or Watson. No, right,

904
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: So either way, I mean, if it's eighty million dollars

905
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: in cap hit, either in one year or two, it's

906
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: hard to overcome because you've got to go find a

907
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 2: quarterback somewhere essentially over a quarter of your cap.

908
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 3: Now, if it would happen soon, I assume they turned

909
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: to Winston and see what he can.

910
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: Do, you know, like if oh, it won't be any time,

911
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: they're not gonna find these things yeah yeah, yeah.

912
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's just one more, one more distraction for

913
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: the Browns at a minimum.

914
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I meant, you don't.

915
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: Think every stadium they walk into is gonna bring this up.

916
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 2: Now, the team could the league could have come and said,

917
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna put him on the Commissioner's

918
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: exempless because this is you know, and maybe that happens

919
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: later in the season because the heat up. Yeah, they

920
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 2: start to investigate this, they find out, you know what, Yeah,

921
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't look great. They probably did this. They could

922
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: put him on the exemp list, but that doesn't even

923
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: get them out from underneath. That just means he couldn't play.

924
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: That just means he couldn't play. It's so getting paid, yeah, okay,

925
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: and it's his cap and contract stuff wouldn't change at all.

926
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: Wow. And there's no good way around this, there is.

927
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: They did it to themselves. They did themselves.

928
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: And you know, you invest in people that do bad things,

929
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: they often do bad things again, you know. Yeah, and

930
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: so again I don't think anybody's crying for them, especially

931
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 3: around here.

932
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: No, I mean I just think it's uh.

933
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to handcuff the team even if

934
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: he's one hundred percent, and it's because he's not good

935
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: at football.

936
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, He's going to be asked about it again.

937
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: This crop up again. Teammates are going to be asked

938
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: about it. What do you think of this new allegation

939
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: against the Sean.

940
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 3: Like, this isn't me making it up, but I can't

941
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: confirm it or anything. But there's been a lot of

942
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: talk that football is not the most important thing to

943
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: him anymore either. And one more distraction, one more you know,

944
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: chant from every opponing, opponenting building you walk in. I mean,

945
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: is that going to make him dedicate himself to the

946
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: game and become better under pressure?

947
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: No?

948
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: Probably not, you know, I mean it's a mess. I

949
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: mean they signed him to a five year, two hundred

950
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: and thirty million, fully guaranteed contract, and at this point,

951
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: this was three years ago they did that. Yeah, this

952
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: is the third year. Yeah, they've gotten thirteen starts out

953
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: of them.

954
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know their record is good in those starts,

955
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: but it's not because of him.

956
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: It's more coincidence. He has made from the Cleveland. He's

957
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: made one hundred and forty two million dollars in his career.

958
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: Now, so think about this angle. I was just about

959
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: this the other day too. I don't think Kevin Stefanski

960
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: is this like future Hall of Famer. Every couple of

961
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: years he's the win coach of the Year. But he's

962
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: a very good offensive mind and play designer and designer

963
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: of offense. And he got a lot out of Flacco Brissett.

964
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: There was another one since he's been there that was

965
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: just a dude, Manfield Mayfield.

966
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

967
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean he got a lot out of way less

968
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: talented players than Watson.

969
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: And he can't get anything out of this guy nothing.

970
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean it kind of. I don't think he's capable

971
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know that he's mentally capable or engaged, yeah,

972
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: right right, I mean when he's under pressure where he

973
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: was in that game, he got hit seventeen times. Yeah,

974
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: that was actually the most in the NFL since the

975
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: Steelers had eighteen hits. I'm trying to remember against Denver. Oh,

976
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: maybe they can beat it and Drew Lock when they

977
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: started that game. I mean, it's a ton of hits

978
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: for of course in the game.

979
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: Remember they knock Lock out of that game. But he's

980
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: got a lot of problems on the field. I mean

981
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: he does not I don't think he's as athletic as

982
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: he used to be. He's not as explosive as a runner.

983
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't create in that manner like he once did,

984
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: which was his greatest strengths. I think his arm strengths

985
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: always been overrated. Like I was low on him coming out,

986
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: and frankly I was wrong because he was quite good

987
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: for a while, but at Clemson he threw a lot

988
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: of picks and didn't have a big arm and trust

989
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: to his arm more than he should have coming out

990
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: and you're still seeing some of that. Under pressure numbers

991
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: are like the worst in the league, I mean, and

992
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: he's been fortunate to have Chubb in a good line

993
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: for a while and it's only gonna get worse, and

994
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: that would now I think his arm might be shot. Yeah,

995
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: and his arm is not good and always.

996
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: Had shouts your accuracy, didn't throw a ton.

997
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: And he doesn't play like a confident, cocky guy, you know,

998
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: I mean like Debo is a Deebo Sweeney I think

999
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: was his coach at Clemson. Yeah, yeah, I know I

1000
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 3: was saying that wrong. And they said you're getting Michael Jordan.

1001
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: You know, you're getting the clutch guy. I mean that's

1002
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: what he said when they drafted him. And then you're

1003
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: getting the clutch things.

1004
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: I liked about him. He had all that kind of

1005
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: stuff to him and you don't see any of that now,

1006
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: you know. And the you know when you when you

1007
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: keep having issues, Yeah, you know, the confidence gets eroded

1008
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1009
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: And I'm sure there are ten guys in the huddle

1010
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: look at it and be like, you're Michael Jordan.

1011
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: I don't want you taking the last shot. Yeah, you're

1012
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, you shouldn't be on the court. That's a

1013
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: dated reference for many of our listeners, I guess. So. Yeah,

1014
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: away he was good too. Yeah, let's get that's a problem. Yeah,

1015
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: the Browns problems are the Browns problem. The Browns is

1016
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: the Browns. It's it's it's their problems.

1017
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: As good as their defense is. They could have a

1018
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 3: disastrous seat, so it could blow up get real bad. Yeah, absolutely,

1019
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: I've seen that in the past. He is Matt Williamson.

1020
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,239
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1021
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1022
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