WEBVTT - What It's Like to Play in the Olympics with Nicolas Colsaerts 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.520 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.320 And when I find my ball. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:09.319 In a Friday Egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Friday 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.040 Frida Egg Frida Egg Bride Egg Lie. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.080 I'm about ready to run off of the golf course. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.320 Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.360 I am your host, Andy Johnson. Today I've got a 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:48.319 jam packed episode that centers around Olympic golf. We are 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.920 at the point where we have the Olympics starting this week. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.480 We've got the men's competition at l Golf Nationale uh 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:58.160 this week, followed by the women's competition next week. I 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:02.200 think the Olympics are in an interesting place where they're 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.959 kind of like floating about, so I've thought this would 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.240 be an interesting episode to put together. We have Nicholas 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.600 Cole starts joining to talk about his experience playing in 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.880 the twenty sixteen Olympics at Rio. He was in the 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.319 mix going into the final round, kind of like he 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.039 didn't have a good final round, but was there, you know, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.039 with the with the thought of possibly winning in Olympic medal. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.680 So really cool experience and a thoughtful, thoughtful person that 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.920 I think soaked in the experience overall. And then I'm 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:37.479 joined by Garrett Morrison, Our Garrett Morrison, to just talk 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.959 about the Olympics and where it sits today and where 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.320 we think it might go. So this is a super 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:47.040 fun podcast. Nicholas will be up first. I realized that 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.680 I didn't have my mic turn on. Halfway through this interview. 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.560 I apologize, you're just getting it through my headphones. So 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.160 if it's a little bit scratchy, I promise it gets 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.640 better for the back three quarters of this episode. So 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.040 I realized on and I was like, oh, it was 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.360 early in the morning. I had flown to the East coast, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.880 it was it was rough. I was, you know, effectively 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.600 up very very early for my body clock. Uh. So 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.360 I flipped it on and I hope you guys enjoyed 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.400 this episode. And thanks thanks a lot to Nicholas for 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:27.560 joining all Right, Nicholas, thank you so much for coming 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:33.320 on on the podcast. You played in the twenty sixteen Olympics. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.760 You played golf, You represented your country, Belgium. I didn't 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:42.000 realize your your grandfather played two sports in the Olympics. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.600 Was a basketball and water polo player in the nineteen 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.760 twenty Olympics. That is I can't imagine there's a ton 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.000 of multi sport Olympic athletes. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.480 No, correct, But I mean, first of what, he was 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.240 my great grandfather, go long way back that I was. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.320 I was reading Wikipedia and I was like, that can't 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.720 be right. The grandfather nineteen twelve. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.080 Yeah, so yeah, great grandfather. So we were lucky to 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.480 have the Olympics in Antwerp in nineteen twenty. And then 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.000 he did a second Olympic Games in nineteen thirty six 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.280 in Munich, so he did basketball and water polo. I 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.120 think he was only the captain of one of these 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:27.799 two teams. I don't remember which one he was. He 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.160 was actually in the stadium in nineteen thirty six when 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.400 Jesse Owens won goal and Hitler was there, and Hitler 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.880 decided to leave for you know the reasons back in 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.840 the day. But yeah, yeah, there was always an Olympic 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:46.320 history in the family, which is why I have connected 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.280 with the Olympics, even before he was even a question 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.640 that golf was going to be a part of them. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.240 Yeah, you played in majors, you contended in majors. You 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:00.160 obviously had a phenomenal Ryder Cup and twenty twelve of 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:05.360 I'm curious where does qualifying and playing in the Olympics 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.240 rank in your career, Achie event. 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.720 Let's not even get into the cheesiness of you know, 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.120 you represent your country and all that kind of stuff, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.880 like we we know that it goes without saying. The 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:23.080 thing with the Olympics is like I went to the 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:28.240 Olympics with two different views. Like the number one was 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.799 extremely you know, proud to become an Olympian, but number 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.800 two was was you know, being an ultimate fan of sports. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.479 You know, the souvenirs that I that I that I 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.360 get from it is you know, walking around the Olympic 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.960 village and stuff like that. I mean, it's almost like 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.560 I had forgotten that I was there to actually compete 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:53.000 because I was so attracted to the size of the 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.120 event and some of the things I was seeing, like 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:00.240 the different body types and the different nationalities and and 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.760 you know, also the fact that you know, we do 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.120 a decent living at our sport, even if you're one 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.880 hundreds in the world, where if you're twenty fifth at rowing, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.159 you know, you probably struggle to put food on the table. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:22.520 So you know, Throughout the experience, I constantly was reminded 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.320 that we were extremely lucky to play twenty five thirty 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:31.040 thirty five events a year, and therefore, to me, it 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:40.000 was it really satisfied my sporting DNA to the core 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.280 more than anything else. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.360 Yeah, I imagine. I mean, what's it like, you know, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.240 we're you're there. How does it compare to like a 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.359 normal week where you're you're you might be staying in 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.599 a suburban hotel, you know, playing a tournament. What was 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.480 your week like from a practice Like did it change 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.960 the way you practice? Did you spend more time kind 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.560 of away from the course, do you know, just watching 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.240 other sports and hanging out? 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.880 Yeah, a little bit, Yeah, got a little bit, not 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.760 just for us, but for caddies as well. I mean, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.920 like we went I had, you know, Brian and Caddy 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.520 for me for more than ten years on the back 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.760 back then, and it was it was like we were 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.640 done with our practice rounds and practice a little bit 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.640 and it's like can we go that there's weightlifting on 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.919 or swimming or I went to see a bunch of 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.479 field hockey games because I know a bunch of guys 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.080 in the Belgium team, so I ended up going. I 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.560 think I went to see all their games except the final, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.640 and so they blame me for not winning the final 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.360 because they lost the final against Argentina. But I kept 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.120 on pushing my my plane ticket to go back home anyway. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:54.240 But but yeah, you you just are completely swallowed by 0:06:55.040 --> 0:07:00.400 by the event and the buzz. Did you know the 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.080 month of the Olympics or the three weeks of the 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.840 Olympics offers, I mean whatever it was, weightlifting or badminton 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:11.120 or diving. We were also in the stadium when the 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:17.600 one hundred meter final was on, like just absolute biblical 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.720 moments that you've been watching on TV since you were 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:25.320 a little kid. And she was just like, we're in 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.520 the stadium with these and agains, these caddies that you know, 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.280 they carry a bag for a living. They are a 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.960 huge part of our you know, living and and sports. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.720 But for them to be able to live this and 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:38.600 to tell their parents when they go back home at 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.800 forty five or fifteen years old, there big games. I 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.920 thought it was quite quite quite funny at the same 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.640 time and super fulfilling for them as well. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:52.160 Was there a sport that you hadn't like, really experienced 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:56.560 in person or was there like a sport that you 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.160 picked up while you're there, like watching that you enjoy 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.680 watching from there? Was there one that like stood out 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:04.440 surprised you. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.640 I thought the weightlifting was quite incredible because these guys, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.480 you know, lift those bars every they've got like a 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.480 three four five minute break between you know, trying to 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.760 beat the world record or trying to be the other 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.880 guy that they're going head to head with for a medal. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:27.800 It was it was just like absolutely incredible table tennis, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:32.000 like it's so quick, so quick, it's absolutely incredible, like 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.240 when you stand you know, most sports when when when 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.679 you go and watch the top of the tree is 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.839 it's just like if you have that that uh, that 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.840 gene of understanding. You know, we might have that because 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.640 we're already sports professional, so we can really understand maybe 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.800 a little bit easier than average Joe. But but it's 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.800 just fascinating to see also the level of focus from 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.280 the guys we you know, for the like the field 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.600 hockey for example, we we ended up going in the 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.679 bus with them to the games. So it was Peters 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.520 and I. Peters knew a few guys in the team 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.160 as well because they're a Mentwerp and I knew a 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.559 few guys because their dad played with my dad back 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.560 in the day in first division in Belgium. So I 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:11.960 went and asked a coach. I was like, do you 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.480 mind who's key with Do you mind if we just 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.000 coming in the bus with you guys to the games. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.160 You know, we sit at the front, we sit in 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.000 the corner, and we don't bother anyone. Yeah, yeah, sual. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.200 So we ended up going to like three or four 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.320 games with the team in the bus and going to 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.240 the venue like there's not a peet. That's just a 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.040 little bit of music. Some guys are a bit loud, 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:31.719 but it's like and now on the way back when 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.840 they win, like team sports, It's just I was a 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.720 bit jealous. I wish I'd done team sports because you know, 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.800 living with guys like that for you know, two months, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.320 three months, six months, maybe a year in preparation of 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.440 the Olympics, you know, when you come when it comes 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.600 to fruition like that. We have that a little bit 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.600 in Rodica, but it's only a few weeks building up 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.320 where these guys are training together for one year, two year, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.480 three years altogether living together, and you know, when you 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.640 beat Holland in the semi's knowing you're going to get 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.360 a medal, which is our biggest rival. It's it's just 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.120 an explosion in the bus on the way back. The 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.760 guys are jumping at the back and it's just like 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.480 absolutely incredible. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.960 I do feel I think like the Olympics has it's 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.680 been I don't think it's been like warmly received for 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.440 golf in terms of like golf's place in it. I 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.079 don't think like it's been fully embraced by players, bands, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.720 the governing bodies of golf. And I think that one 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.000 of the aspects of what you just hit on that's 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.720 missing is the team element of it. It's, you know, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.680 it kind of is just another individual tournament you played 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.760 with with Thomas Peters over there. But did you feel 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.880 like you guys were in it together or would you, 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.120 you know, would you like to see a team element 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.920 of it. I think Belgium is like an interesting country 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.319 when it comes to the Ryder car. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.920 Are you going to give You're going to give me 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.440 the Illinois. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.800 I'm not gonna I'm not bringing up Illinois. Belgius an 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.720 interesting country when it comes to the Olympics, because I 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.880 think it's like a great example of what golf could 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.960 be versus a lot of other sports, Like you know, 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.000 it's it's gonna there's maybe one or two teams that 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.680 could beat Team USA in terms of basketball, right. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.720 Basketball, Yeah, but in terms of golf. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.600 One of the things I think it like from a 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.960 team element, if you made it a team competition along 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.920 with the individual you could get these amazing underdog stories 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.480 because it wouldn't be inconceivable for four golfers from Belgium 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.800 to beat you know, the American team or the English 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.400 team some of the what would be deemed the heavy 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.320 favorite teams because of just the fickle nature of golf. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.800 And you know, there is worldwide talent and in twenty 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.320 thirty countries could have could feel the team that could 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.160 beat the Americans in a given week. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.440 Yeah, I mean, listen, there's not many team events in 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:06.520 professional golf. Maybe you know, there was an opportunity for 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:14.400 them to fill that gap. In the beginning, I didn't 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.280 really personally feel that because I'm you know, I'm I'm 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.720 extremely team orientated. You know, Peters and I in Rio, 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.360 So we ended up being paired together with some of 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:31.760 the dude on Sunday and I was quickly hatched off 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:36.640 the race and Peters was you know almost you know, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.240 with like six seven holes to go battling with Coucher 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:44.200 to get bronze. And in the end, it didn't even 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.280 matter what I did. I mean every shot I was 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.880 with him. I was like, dude, come on, let's push, 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:51.840 let's push, let's push. You know, a couple of holes, 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.839 if you squeeze two or three, you never know, like 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.640 there's a chance, blah blah blah. And I really saw, 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.200 I really saw it as a as a team thing 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.120 because of how it happened, because we got paired together 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.120 and everything that was out and this and that. But 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:12.080 but I think it's it's some nations will probably you know, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.840 identify as more like a team thing push one another. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.720 But then you know it's two guys. You know, you're 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.400 going to make sure that they get along with one another, 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.000 which was our case. So it didn't really didn't really 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.280 it didn't play against us. But but the whole build 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.760 up early in the week, you know it might be 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.120 an individual thing, but you do everything together. You go 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.800 to the opening ceremony together, you're you're you're, you're in 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.240 the same apartment type thing. I know, most of the 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.120 guys in Paris now are sleeping at an a hotel 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.520 which is on site because the Olympic village is just 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.800 too far. It's at the north of Paris, like, forget 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.840 about it. It's going to take them more than an 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.880 hour to get to the venue. So it's just unmanageable. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.319 But you do everything with your with your with your colors. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:14:01.120 Uh nations would tend to send like look at Denmark 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.520 for example, they've got Thomas Beyond as the captain. You know, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:09.160 I was asked to be a captain for Belgium, you know, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:14.160 last year, and I wasn't really in the in at 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.120 the moment. They should if they asked me at another time, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.800 I would have said yes. And I actually tried a 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.440 couple of months ago but it was too late. But 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.520 you know, go for Denmark, you have Thomas Beyond going 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:27.520 with Olison and Oycot. I mean, what more you can't 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.600 be more team oriented than that. I mean, you've got 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.120 a guy that's won the Ryder Cup at the National 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.640 who's you know, into the Hall of Fame of European Golf, 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:40.320 who as a captain, So it is somehow a little 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:41.239 bit team orientated. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.960 MM hmm. With you illuminate something that makes an event 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.760 unique and in the sense of like it's not just 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.120 about winning. You know, most most golf tournaments it's like 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.880 you finished first and you feel you feel that joyous, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.720 like celebratory aspect that you were talking about with the 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.520 field hockey team on the bus, like where they're you 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:07.360 know that's for golfers winning is that you know, you 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.480 can leave a tournament really happy about a t eight, 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:15.280 but you're not in that joyous winning mood. With the Olympics, 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.080 it's a little different, right you hit on it like 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:23.560 Thomas Peters was was going for the third. Yeah, how 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.160 does that change the dynamic of you playing playing in 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.560 an event? Did it feel different where there was this 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.640 idea of like it's not just first, but second and 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.400 third are are super valuable. Like that feels like winning. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:42.160 I think that if you really understand what the Olympics 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:48.640 are about, you know, you you look at winning a 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.600 medal from such a different angle. You know, we've all seen, 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.680 you know, these pictures of whether it's Carl Lewis or 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.960 Michael Phelps or even you know, we all know this 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.800 Australian guy at the at the Winter Olympics that won 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.200 the short track where everybody fell in front of him, Like, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.040 you know, you have an opportunity to make it properly 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.520 in the history books of not just your sport, but sports. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.880 I mean, I've got just I've got ship. It was 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:21.600 just just talking about it. It. Yeah, it's definitely different. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.640 I mean I was. I was so nervous on the 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.880 first team, so nervous, and you think, like, you know, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.280 like wow, I mean I've played majors, have played in 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:31.720 the Ratta Cup, and it was just as bad as 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.880 team up at the Rata Cup, because because you know 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.000 that at the end of the thing there could be 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:41.600 something that you would be looked at, uh from your 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.320 people at home as in like wow, the you know 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.160 you want a metal for Belgium. You're not playing for yourself, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.200 You're playing for the colors. You're playing for your your 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.320 country and hearing your national anthem. I mean, how many 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.480 times you get your national interem play when you play golf. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.960 Never the only time you get your national anthem is 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.400 you guys at the Rod Cup. Would I don't even 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.360 have all we have this European thing that nobody really 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:07.639 identifies to. So it's it's it's really it's really different. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.480 It just hits you different. It's it's it's sports. It 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.399 resonates with just playing for nothing, you're just playing for pride. 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.959 When you're playing for how proud you you? You can 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:27.719 be representing your country and your sport. And I mean 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.560 it's three every four years, every four years. You know, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.879 if you think swimming, I mean they have the World Championship, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.840 they have the Olympic Games, and that's it. So that's 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.960 why I think it's it resonates and it makes it 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:38.480 so big. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.240 I do think I think when you I think we're 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.720 you know, we're in the like early years of golf 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.240 being back in the Olympics, and I think, like it's 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:52.359 easy for people to kind of cast it aside as 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.880 it doesn't really fit. But I think, you know, I'm 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:59.080 of the person belief that as we get twenty years 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.760 out from this, the event will further entrench itself and 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.520 it will become, you know, more a part of the 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.440 golf lexicon. But you already start to see, like with 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.040 Justin Rose, he won the twenty sixteen Rio that you 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.080 played in, and then you have Xanderschaffle winning in Japan 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.560 four years ago, you know, if they're able to add 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.960 another big name player, it could be this really fascinating 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.879 event where it's like it kind of chronicles capsules and 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.120 time of golf. Because of that it's only once every 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.720 four years. And qualifications, I mean, it's really hard to 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.359 qualify for this team, like to be one of the 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.200 two best players in a country or you know, if 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.920 you're in a golf riche country where you could get 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.159 more than two. You know, you know, you have to 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.359 be at the very top level of the game. Do 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.600 you think that as we get more into the Olympics 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.160 that it will become more embraced by whether it's all consistent, 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:06.280 whether it's got players, fans, and also the governing bodies. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.919 I think like the Golf's tournaments haven't really embraced it. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.720 I think that well, the view from players has changed. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.040 Like the only the only one was really the first one. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.040 And you know, people use the excuse of that Zeke 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.760 virus back then, yeah, which which I mean, come on, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.480 I mean, I didn't see a mosquito the whole two 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.719 weeks I was there, right, But I kind of understand 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.840 it as well, Like, you know, these guys came from 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.040 a schedule of like twenty five thirty big events of 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.359 the year. It wasn't really at the right time of 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.600 the year, I understand it. But quickly for Tokyo they 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:46.720 all showed up, they all did, and they all realized 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.040 that it was, you know, something quite you neque to 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.720 be a part of. Yes, the majors are special, Yes, 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.560 the Ryder Cup is special. Yes, the Memorial Tournament is special. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:00.399 Riviera is special. But this, you know, this stance part, 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.679 and you know when you look at you know, Rory 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.159 last time was sweating it out to try to win 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.280 bronze and look and looked really really upset, not you know, 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:15.280 getting it done. Just it just makes you think, yeah, okay, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.760 these guys really get it. If you are a sports 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:23.280 fan like you will get taken by it. You will 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.120 that there's no if you don't. If you don't get it, 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.240 you know, find something else to do. Go play a 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.760 regular PGA Tour event if that makes you happy. But 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.600 if you don't understand that playing Olympics is special, like 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.560 I've got nothing to say to you. 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.920 I I think there is like this added gravity of 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.560 the of the Olympic medal, and I think we we 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.399 get so caught up especially in America. But you know, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.400 we're about to hit the uh hit the Fedax Cup playoffs. 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.720 You know, one of my favorite times of the year 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.080 when when golf, all that we talk about is how 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.320 much money is on the line. But like the Olympics 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.840 is actually like the complete opposite, where there's no money 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:09.000 on the line, except there's this medal that like represents 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:16.120 I think like an Olympic medal represents a greater kind 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.800 of symbol in just all of sport, right, Like you know, 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.879 it's the first line you say about somebody, Oh, he's 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:29.840 an Olympic medalist, right, And I think like when you 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:36.640 think about that, it's like a it's a crazy it's 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.280 it's a different gravity. And I think when we when 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:44.119 we go to in particularly golf Nationale that of course 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.320 you've won at getting it home at that golf course, 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.000 with all the water, all the preponderance of problems that 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.240 can be there, I think you're going to see that 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:58.679 real Like these guys might end up getting you know, 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:04.560 a little bit rattled by the gravity of a medal again. 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.520 You know, you might very well see that because of 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:10.720 you know, the stage it's on and the last couple 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.920 of hos it's at the National But but you first 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.320 need to understand. I've seen a few medals at people's place, 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:21.119 in their offices and stuff, and it's just like, wow, 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.800 it's an Olympic medal. Like you just don't see an 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.160 Olympic medal. It's like seeing you know, some of the 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.280 some some some books from from the Vatican library. You know, 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:36.480 you just don't see them, and and and and yeah, 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.480 I can only hope that you know, there's going to 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.399 be you know, let's hope that there is you know, 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.520 riff raff in the last four or five holes, that 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.520 you know, the three guys in the position for the 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.320 three medals could be. Imagine a group of six, you know, 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.080 playing for three medals and I don't even know what's 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.280 the what's the situation with ties? If it's like just 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.400 the last round scores and stuff like that, which would 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:05.400 be hard wreaking. Imagine sorry, dude, you're finishing fourth because 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.840 you've shot seventy one and the two other guys shot 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.760 sixty nine and seventy and stay the bus home to 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.000 the Olympic village with nothing around your neck. You would 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:17.080 be devastating. So I just hope the guys will understand 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:17.840 what they're playing for. 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:23.240 There's a there's got to be a playoff. You can't 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:24.359 send them that. 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.160 It would be kind of harsh, harsh. 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.480 How did it? How did the you know, you went 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.000 into the last day with a chance of a bronze? 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.920 How did how did that feel comparatively to a normal week? 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.240 Was it a similar feeling when you were you're dealing 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:46.240 with like the nerves of was it similar to contending 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.200 or similar to Ryder cup or you know, how was that? 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:50.720 How is that Saturday night? 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:52.560 Like it was? 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:56.360 Listen, it was it was heavy, just like any Saturday 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.280 night that you know you're going to the last round 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:03.240 and you know you playing for something big, And it 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:08.399 didn't really change much honestly. It's it's just you know, 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.800 the people would tell you try to take you know, 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.879 the end result away from you know, the thinking process, 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:15.880 otherwise you're going to start making bad decisions. But it's 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.879 just like standard you know, sports psychology and all, just 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:23.000 stick to the processes instead of you know, seeing the headline. 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:27.000 But after I think after six souls or something, I 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:29.080 was that So I was like, listen, and I only 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.480 have one job? Lift is one job left? Is trying 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.879 to get the speeders over the line and bring one back, 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:35.399 because it would have been a hell of a party. 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.200 But but but yeah, listen, in the end, it's just 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.119 another Saturday night like the other ones. You're trying to 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.399 do your best and and and yeah, it's it's a 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.560 you know, looking back now at my age and having 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:51.040 done it for like twenty twenty five years, you know 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.800 you need to be properly bulletproof to actually go through 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.160 these nights and show up the next day and have 0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:01.920 clear thinking and and and get the job done, because 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:02.879 it's it's not easy. 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.640 But how do you fancy Belgium's chances this year? 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.679 I think they're good. I think they're good. Listen, I 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:16.639 mean we all know Detrie HIDINOI both to both of them. 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.320 I mean, see in Belgium or TV University of Illinois. 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.280 You can look at it two different ways. 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.480 I'm a bit surprised Mike Small's not there. 0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.560 I'm surprised they I'm surprised they asked you to be 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:29.960 the coach, not Mike Small. 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.320 Yeah, I would have handed it over to Mike Small. 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.159 But yeah, of course they have a good chance. The 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.520 girl as well, that mine, OWNDI listen, she's really good. 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.360 She's I think she's in the top three or top 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.280 five of the d T like, I mean, she's one 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:48.760 a few times, like she's solid. So yeah, Dutries played 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:53.359 the course a bunch of times. Adrian de Monchasell I 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:57.240 wonder if he's actually ever played it. So yeah, there's 0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.679 a there's there's a there's a good chance that we 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.560 get somebody in the mix coming Sunday. It would be 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.200 it would be quite funny actually that you know Detro 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.639 wins the medal after chasing you know, big big results 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:11.880 or actually a win on either PG or europeon where 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.960 it would be a fun one to win for his 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:15.440 first one. 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.520 Yeah. I mean he's been in the mix too, and 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.639 I think to the majors this year he was like 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.120 really kind of in it at one point. I think 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:30.280 the weekends didn't go well for him, but he's been around, 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:31.760 he's definitely got the game to do it. 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:33.160 Yeah. 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.119 I got to ask you a question. Well, I was 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.040 researching this, I saw you don't have a home one. 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.600 Is that still you know you got one? 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.960 No? No, I do, I do know. I made my 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:47.520 first official one of the Scottish Open last year and 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.160 it's funny because I started working with Dave Linquist, who 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:54.240 will be listening to this one of ours friends last 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.880 year and he was like, we're going to get one. 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.760 I'm like, dude, I've been chasing this thing for twenty years. 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:04.080 I ain't gonna happen. I'm just a black sheep. And 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:05.919 we did one in Scotland which was really cool. But 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.960 before that, I made one on the practice round at 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.959 a Trump and Dubai on the Path four with Detree 0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.560 and Peters actually and I just hold this this shot 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:15.479 on this driving boat. 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:20.480 So yeah, albatros before before a home one on a 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:21.000 part three. 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.720 Yeah, well I already admite an albatross in Portugal by 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.679 holding a five iron on the twelve hold of the 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.160 Portugal Masters one year. So now I can. I can. 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.639 I can die in peace because I've I've ticked all 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.720 the boxes and I can die in peace because I've 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:33.960 made your podcast as well. 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.360 I have to say, you got to be you had 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.240 to be like the only pro without a home one. 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.000 Yeah, I don't think there would have been many of us. Yeah, 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.399 it was. It was really something that really kept me 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.880 awake at night when it used to when it used 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:54.840 to to come up in conversations. I mean, you might 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:56.600 as well just leave the table, you know, when you 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.800 surrounded by guys that I've had like thirteen and seventeen 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.920 by sinning one and getting a good bounce off a bunker. 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.439 I mean you're just like, what have I done? What 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.880 if I don't to deserve this? I mean, I think 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.040 I've hit enough solid go shots in my life to 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:11.240 actually deserve the Holy. 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:15.399 One, right, Yeah, Nicholas, thanks so much for coming on 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.359 chatting about the Olympics. One of these days we'll have 0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.800 to do a full pod to dive into more of 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.560 your career, more of your interests. I h I know 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.160 you're in Abiza right now. I mispronounced it. You told 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.040 me how to pronounce it before. We'd love to dive 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.760 in you. Yeah, we should be. We should do a 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:38.640 whole European travel podcast sometime, all the best. 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.680 Spots and any any time. I've always enjoyed watching to 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:47.400 you guys. You guys are great. You're amusing, your quite intelligent. 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.600 You've got a great sense of humor even where you 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:50.800 come from, so keep it up. 0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.480 Thank you, even where we come from. You thank you 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:59.520 for that. What last question as a world traveler, what 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.280 would be your dream Olympic city host? Where would be 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.920 the Olympics that you'd most want to go attend if 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.239 you if they were going to host it? 0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:08.840 What city? 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.120 Well, I think the next ones are going to be great. 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.280 I mean los Angeles, Come on, los Angeles is going 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.600 to be amazing. I mean it's going to be pre 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.480 to play at Riviera. This is just you know, selfishly 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:22.280 about golf. But yeah, I mean you stick to the 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.440 big ones. But los Angeles next time, I think wouldn't 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:25.240 be absolutely awesome. 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.440 Yeah, yeah, all right, all right. I thought I was 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.320 going to get some European city far flung, your European 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.640 city or something, you know, something off the grid. 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.360 But you want the Americans is too small, Russells is 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:39.800 too small. Conduit in Brussels. 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.600 Well you could get that American caesar salad you love 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:45.600 so much if you came it came up. 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.440 Well, yeah, I'm going to get my fix of chicken 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:52.120 caesar salad the next time. I can't wait. 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Garrett, I 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.280 gotta ask you, are you excited for the for the 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:53.760 golf in the Olympics. 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.680 I am so excited for the Olympics. I love the Olympics. 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.200 I'm a huge fan of pretty much all Olympic sports. 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.800 Golf in the Olympics is fine. I'm glad it's there. 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.400 I would like to see it build up some tradition 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.880 over time. But my excitement level is kind of middling 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.760 compared to how excited I am to see swimmers and 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:26.160 sprinters and even the canoers. Those are, you know, special 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.400 Olympic sports that we only get to see every four years. 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.320 I get up for those. Golf, I don't know. I 0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.200 got to see more of it. I got to see 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.160 how the competition develops over time. 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.880 Yeah, I think I'm in the same boat. I think 0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:43.320 I'm more in bullish in the Olympics category. I think 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:47.120 that just in general, this event I think is going 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:52.440 to age. Well, you know, is it exactly how I 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.680 want golf in the Olympics from a format sense, No, 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.880 but I'm happy it's a part of it. I think that, 0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:03.720 like there is a great opportunity with golf in the Olympics, 0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:11.239 if the players and the constituents really kind of lean into, hey, 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.160 this is an Olympic sport, this is a once in 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:17.680 a lifetime opportunity to represent, really represent your country, and 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.680 you know, the greatest athletic spectacle there is. 0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:26.120 I agree. I think the potential is enormous because there's 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.600 nothing like an Olympic medal. There's really nothing like it, 0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.319 you know, And that's what this competition has going for it, 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.120 plus its association with the tradition of the Olympics, which 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:41.680 is second to none in the sporting world. But what 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.279 it does require is that investment on the part of 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.960 the athletes. If it's really important to them, then it 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.480 will become crucially important to us. And I think it 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:56.040 was important to Justin Rose that he won his medal 0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.960 at the at the Rio Olympics. I think that was 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.920 a big deal to him and that gave this event 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:07.600 some authenticity, some legitimacy going forward. I'm not sure I 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.680 got the same sense from Xander Shaffley, but then again, 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.839 I don't really get anything from Xander Shafflee, and so 0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.759 maybe he was deeply moved and excited about winning the 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.960 gold medal in Japan. But I don't know. I mean, 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.640 I didn't get much from him about it. And so 0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:27.359 again we'll see if these players properly invest Now. I 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.840 don't want to come down too hard on some of 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:35.640 the players in the Olympics this coming week, but I 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.520 did notice that some players showed up to the opening 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:44.560 ceremony in Paris and some didn't. And again, there are 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:49.600 many reasons that players might not have made the time 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.319 or been able to attend the opening ceremony. But I 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.240 thought it was really cool that Colin Morrikala and Wyndham 0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.480 Clark were there. They were out there on the boat. 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.239 They were mixing it up with the other athletes. They 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.560 have been going to at least mare Kawa has been 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:10.600 going to some Olympic events. They seem to be all in. 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:16.000 Now we'll see what Scotti, Shuffler, and Xander Schofflee show us. 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.640 As far as the Americans are concerned, you know, how 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.120 much how much do they really care about this competition? 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:25.440 I would I would like to see that. I'm not 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.480 saying that they don't, but not seeing them at the 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.600 opening ceremony was I mean, it was a bit of 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.279 a bummer. It would have been nice to see all 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:33.040 four of them there. 0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.560 Yeah, I don't know. I guess I think I could 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.279 see both sides of it, right, especially for someone like 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.480 Xander who's already done probably I think I think he 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.320 was at the opening ceremony in Japan. I'm not positive, 0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.800 but if you've already done one, I see, like, Okay, 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.200 maybe I don't show up to the second one. Yeah, 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:58.719 I can understand that. I think that the you know, 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:03.960 it's been interesting. I think from the Olympic side, the women, 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.759 the women's has been way more successful to date. It 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:12.720 has been way more embraced by the athletes and the fans. 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.640 I think it's like a really big deal in the 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.960 women's game. I think it serves as almost a major 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.760 championship to the women, which is how I kind of think. 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.279 You know, I don't it's not in apples to apples comparison, 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:33.400 but I think that if it stays into in the 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:37.760 greater golf world, that Olympic gold will get to that standing. 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.279 Because the scarcity of it, it's just like it's really 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:45.880 hard to qualify for and there are very few of 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.759 them warded, So when you think about it, it's like 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.000 you have to be one of the best, you know, 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.359 twenty or so players in the world to have a 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:58.839 shot at really like winning one because of the qualification standards, 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.080 and it's only once every four years, like you think about, 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.920 I think that's what makes major so fascinating is the 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.040 scarcity of them. There's only four of them a year. 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.880 And I think from from that sense, like an Olympic 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.960 gold if if they kind of play their car, if 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.640 the if the if, the game embraces it, and maybe 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.960 they make a few I think a few format tweaks 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.920 could really help it. I think that it would. It 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:29.000 could leap into the upper ash lines of like the 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.719 sport and the honors of the sport. Olympic gold medalists 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.880 has like a nice ring to somebody's resume. 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.520 A couple of things from that. First of all, why 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.839 do you think it has become a bigger deal more 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.040 quickly for the women. 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.040 I think it's because they embrace it, and I think 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:54.799 they like revel in the opportunity to be on this platform. 0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.160 Yeah, the platform is very meaningful to them in a 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.480 way that you know that the men might not see 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.640 it the same way, even though it is an important 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.319 platform for them. Also, it's maybe harder for them to 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:11.000 realize that considering that the majors are already such a 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.239 big platform for them. 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.560 Yeah, yeah, I think I think that's it, right, I think, 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:17.799 And I think if you look at the other the 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.760 other aspect of it is I think on both sides, 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.719 one of the things that the Olympics has going for 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.320 it is the winners have been awesome. Justin Rose Xanderschoffley 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:31.480 on the men's side, MB Park, Nelly Korda. I mean, 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.760 those are four generational players. 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.160 And Ry Sabatini with the silver medal, I mean, how 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.120 can you get better than that? 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:43.120 I mean, Rory Sabatini has been relevant for twenty five years. 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.600 He gave up everything to get that silver medal. 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:52.320 Gave up in citizenship, I know, he gave up his homeland. Yeah. 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:57.640 So I think like the thing for for the Olympics 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.440 is continuing to build off it and having successes, uh 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.000 with with the you know, just getting the players more 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:07.640 in the boat. And I think like Japan, for in 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:14.160 the men side, was more committed than Rio Rio was. 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.719 Like I think there was like some there had to 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.520 be some fomo from people that missed out on Rio. 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:24.359 Probably Rio looked really fun. Ricky Fowler was there, right, 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:25.080 and Bubba. 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.719 Watson that's where he got the tattoo. 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.719 That's right, of course, how could I forget the tattoo. 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:35.040 I remember Ricky Fowler hanging out, maybe even staying in 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:39.040 the Olympic village and like bringing Bubba Watson along with 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.160 him and being like, Hey, look at look at how 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:46.080 cool this is. This is really an amazing gathering of 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:49.160 world class athletes, and I think golf being part of 0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:53.120 that is such an honor and such an opportunity, not 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.759 just a financial opportunity like this is a this is 0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:01.080 this is some kind of deep experience that they could have, 0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:04.480 that golfers could have being being part of this congregation. 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.880 I'm a sucker for the Olympic spirit. I'm completely naive 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.600 when it comes to that stuff, and so I just 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.400 I just see that this as as a great chance 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:17.600 for golf to be part of the international landscape of sports. 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:22.440 But I wanted to pull on another thread in what 0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:26.239 you were saying earlier. You mentioned format tweaks that could 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:30.520 potentially give this competition a little bit more juice, make 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:35.319 it make it feel more important. I came up with 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.640 a few ideas around this, not particularly original ideas, just 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.799 just simple things that could happen. But what do you 0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.400 what would be your proposal for an Olympic format. 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:49.000 I think the easy way that you build this without 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.240 having to like tear everything down. I think you should 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.919 have a Each team should have three players on it, 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.640 and if your if your country doesn't can't get three 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.640 players qualified, then you're just not part of the team competition. 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.560 I think there has to be a team component to this. 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.839 So I would get three players, three three person teams, 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:20.720 and I think you shorten the the the stroke play 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:26.839 individual championship to maybe thirty six holes or you know, 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.439 kind of just figure out, play around with what you want. 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:30.520 Have the top. 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.120 Yeah, they give out a medal, right, like that's a 0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.840 you know, and then I would have like the top 0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:43.879 eight teams qualify for three rounds of matches and then 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.920 you crown a team champion. I think that would be awesome. 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:51.359 I think there you'd see real camaraderie. It's not it's 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.560 five rounds of golf. It's it's manageable, but you get 0:42:55.560 --> 0:43:00.200 that team and individual element to it. I think the 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.360 team elements the thing that's lacking, you know. 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:05.799 I would love that and I agree that a team 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.760 element would be great and would set this competition apart 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.520 a little bit. I just don't. I don't really think 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:15.719 it's gonna happen. Maybe that's too cynical. The reason they 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.640 went with seventy two whole stroke play in the first 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.400 place is that it's an easy to understand, an easily 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.960 recognizable format. That's why they did it, just because they 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.440 weren't willing to really take a chance. 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.600 I think the matchups would be incredible, Like you know, 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:32.480 this is the bronze medal match for the team championship. 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:36.359 You know, it's it's I always use the I always use. 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.200 But like Chili, Chili could have a team with Mita 0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.160 Perro juaquin Neeman and I don't know who the third rank, 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.000 but there has to be a player that's ranked in 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.359 the top one thousand of though wgr from Chile. Like 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.160 that would be a legitimate team. You know, yeah, I 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.080 think last year we did like a team, or last 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.960 Olympics we might have done like a team calculation and 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.960 Chili might have won. It was they were right up 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:03.560 there with the American team. 0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:09.080 The top end of Chile's golfing talent is is really 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:13.120 really strong. All right, Well, so what I would propose 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.680 a little more modestly, like I would obviously like there 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.160 to be team match play. Who wouldn't want team match play? 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.680 That's what all golf siccos want to see, And frankly, 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.520 I think the wide appeal of it is a little 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.360 bit underrated. Like the Ryder Cup works, so why wouldn't 0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.919 Why wouldn't this work in the Olympics. But a little 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.200 bit more modestly, if you maintained this event as an 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:39.200 individual Olympic event, then at the very least you could 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:44.000 say we'll have fifty four holes of stroke play, maybe even. 0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.960 In feeling live format. 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:50.640 I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, l IV fifty four Yeah, sorry, 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.319 sorry to all the lift fans out there. I wasn't 0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.600 going to acknowledge that until Andy called me out. So 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.279 I'm a bad guy in any case, Maybe even like 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.800 a thirty six cut, you get to fifty four holes 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:06.840 of stroke play and then you have a playoff to 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:11.440 define the first four seeds one, two, three, four. You 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:16.200 get solo places for one, two, three four through a playoff. 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.040 It would be a chaotic playoff. Maybe there will be 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.759 multiple playoffs, There'll be all kinds of scenarios there. It'd 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.879 be a little be kind of similar to what they 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.440 do for the metal placements right now, they have to 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.520 do like a big complicated playoff. You would do that 0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.279 at the fifty four hole mark, and then you would 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.480 have four players seeded one, two, three, four, and the 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:39.600 next day you would have two matches. One is the 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.160 gold medal match and one is the bronze medal match. 0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.160 I would love to see that because I think what's 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:52.400 really great and distinct about Olympic golf is the meaningfulness 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:57.359 of silver and bronze, that second and third place really matter. 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.880 Players are motivated to get those places. To me, a 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:04.400 final day of match play that would earn players different 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.440 medals would emphasize that tension, and it would be a 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.600 really great thing to watch. It would be the day 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.080 of Olympic competition that you would have to tune into, 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:17.920 right and and it would be something a little bit different. 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.280 Yeah, you know that. I like that. I like match 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.479 play in general. I think like for the common fan, 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.959 match play is actually easier to understand than stroke play. 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.920 It's intuitive, is this. 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.680 Guy this person versus this person. The other element of 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.880 match play that I think is underrated, is it brings 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.000 in the element of winner and loser, like the black 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:45.000 and white defined element of is he won they lost? 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.320 The fourth place guy in that situation, the loser of 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.640 the bronze medal match. Oh, that's brutal, you know. 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.400 They'd always be the guy, the guy that lost the 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.360 bronze medal match. Do you remember the guy or gallop? 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.000 Oh didn't didn't he lose in the bronze medal man 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.600 a few years ago? Would be the how they That's 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:04.879 how they would describe it. 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.879 Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly that that would be. That would 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:09.920 be I lost. 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:14.000 I lost the bronze medal match. I like that. 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:16.799 It's a sad way to go. Yeah, no, I mean 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.879 I I think that that would be a simple change, 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.319 a relatively modest change that would introduce something, something new 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:23.560 to it. 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.920 The other aspect I let I love about golf in 0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:31.560 the Olympics is the opportunity for the game, like other 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.040 parts of the country or other parts of the world 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.279 being exposed to the game. Like that's I think like 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.480 there are there's an emphasis in countries that are placed 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.960 on Olympic sports and development that goes into people that 0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:47.160 are playing Olympic sports because it's such a big deal 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.680 for countries that are maybe an underdeveloped parts of the world. 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:55.080 And I think that is a neat component to the Olympics. 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:59.880 And the component that you know that golf has get 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:04.759 from that is like, you know, I saw the US 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:08.359 Junior was being played at Oakland Hills last week and 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.680 I was kind of monitoring matches. I saw one of 0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.799 the round of sixteen matches was between a player from 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:18.640 Ukraine and a player from Vietnam, and like, those were 0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.640 two really good young players from those countries, and it's 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.080 like you start to think about it. It's like it 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:29.600 would be really cool if someone from Ukraine won an 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.000 Olympic medal, just like last year when someone from Slovakia 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:38.879 or last Olympics when someone from Slovakia Olympic medal. I mean, 0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:44.040 but it would be fi need to see golf continue 0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.920 to develop in these other countries because I mean, like, 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.840 I think anybody that's listening to this podcast believes in 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.399 the virtues of the game of golf right, and and 0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.440 the that it's a great game to play and it's 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.719 a great game for kids to play. So I think 0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:04.440 like from from that standpoint, I just like, you know, 0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.759 I think like the pessimistic side of me is that 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:14.680 and this is like the probably impact that you're now 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:19.600 covering basically four years of golf pulling itself apart at 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.719 the seams over money. Like the pessimistic side of me 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:27.520 with the Olympics is like, because it's an unpaid appearance, 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.479 the players will never take it as seriously as as 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.880 they should and make it as cool as they could. 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.560 That's that's sort of what I'm worried about too. But 0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:42.000 the optimistic side of that is that this exposure that 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:47.120 Olympic golfers might have to athletes who are world class 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:53.520 but also like have a day job, don't earn millions 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.200 playing their sport even though they're one of the best 0:49:56.280 --> 0:50:00.279 in the world at it. Then exposure to that kind 0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:04.840 of community, that kind of athletics is really good for 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:10.439 golfers and might provide some clarifying perspective on why they're 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:15.439 doing what they're doing. I don't think any golfers out 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.080 there got into the sport because they were interested in money. 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.280 I think, pretty much to a man or to a woman, 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:26.399 they got into it because they love golf and they 0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.440 found out that they were really good at it. It 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:32.520 was about the game it eventually becomes about the money 0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:35.279 at some point in your career if you become successful. 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:39.480 But maybe this encounter with the community of that have 0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.280 athletes who really do it for the love of sport 0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.440 and not for any kind of monetary compensation, which simply 0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:50.520 isn't there for most Olympic sports. That encounter is very 0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:54.040 healthy and I hope, I hope that the golfers take 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:54.640 advantage of it. 0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:58.360 Also, just look at the way of an athlete, like 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:02.840 the most recognizable athlete on the planet right now, Lebron, 0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.400 like what he puts into the Olympics, and that is 0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.960 an unpaid It's an unpaid position. And he's playing a 0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:14.719 sport where there are actual real ramifications of playing a 0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:19.600 exhibition where there are potential injury risks, you know, and such. 0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.560 We saw it with Paul George a few years ago 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:24.680 on the men's Olympic team, where like he had a 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:28.279 career altering injury in a practice for it. You know, 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:31.600 like this is Golf's a little bit less low stakes. 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:34.799 But like look at that guy. That guy should be 0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.439 the highest paid athlete in the world. I think he's 0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:40.120 probably close to the highest paid maybe, you know, with 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.560 all of his revit all of the money makes on 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:47.320 and off the court, he cares about he like clearly 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:51.279 cares dearly about the Olympics, gives it his all. He's 0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:55.360 playing like is the NBA Finals out there? And and 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:59.640 I think yes, And I just think that golfers and 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:04.600 gen role they got off to really bad start with 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.360 with this, Like Rio, I think, I think it like 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.719 left a bad taste and fans mouths too, just the 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:16.120 unseeriousness of how they took the inclusion, like it's an 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:19.120 honor to be included in the Olympics, Like this is 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.759 a good thing for the sport. And I think, like 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:26.279 the flip side, the last piece beyond that is is 0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:32.239 the PGA Tour buying in and accommodating the Olympics on 0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:35.840 the schedule and understanding, you know what, we can pause 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:39.200 our season for two weeks every four years and give 0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:42.880 these guys, give the people that play the Olympics a chance, 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.799 Like everything should be paused because there are players from 0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.960 corn Fairy Tour who have qualified, Like everything should just 0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:53.759 be paused. It's okay, it's fine. The FedEx Cup's gonna 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:56.000 be okay without you know. 0:52:57.719 --> 0:52:59.320 They shouldn't hold the tournaments. 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.640 Yeah, I think they shouldn't because it happens. 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.120 On a pretty convenient part of the schedule already. I 0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.279 mean there's not much going on. Yeah, but if you 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:09.040 as the three. 0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:11.960 M you know, but if you're on the bubble of 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:16.560 the playoffs and you have to play in the Olympics, 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.320 that that's not good. 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.800 Like that, especially for like non American players, right, because 0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:25.480 the American players are all going to be top ten 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.840 in the world for you know, for the foreseeable future. 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:30.600 This this year, they're all top five players I think right, 0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.799 Rice into Shambeau is ninth in the owgr and he 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.200 didn't even make the team. But yeah, for players from 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:41.040 other countries that that would be certainly a factor. 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.759 Yeah. So I think that's the last piece of it. 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:47.920 And maybe that, more so than player greed, is the 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:52.239 the the thing that we'll we'll hold the Olympics back. 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.400 I think there's this other thing with the tour is 0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:58.319 like they currently don't own any of the five most 0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:02.479 valuable properties and the four Majors and the Ryder Cup. 0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:04.800 The Olympics threat. 0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.960 Now, if the Olympics became fully realized now they wouldn't 0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:12.479 own any of the six biggest events in golf, so. 0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.000 We probably don't want it to be that, yeah of 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:15.319 the deal. 0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.799 I think this is like a real consideration. Does the 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:24.200 PGA Tour actually want the Olympics to succeed? And that's 0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.280 super sad for the game of golf if it's true 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:28.760 that they don't want it to succeed. 0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:32.959 I'd also point out that the LPGA Tour was playing 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:37.240 an event last week and is also playing an event 0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:40.720 this coming week. And I'm not sure what's happening during 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.600 the week of the women's Olympic competition itself, but it 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:48.080 seems like maybe not a huge amount of accommodations are 0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:51.399 being made on that side either, And so I think 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:54.919 golf in general just has to ask itself what does 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:59.800 the Olympics mean to us? But on that theme, though, 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:04.920 I wanted to get your perspective on on what you 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:10.000 think in Olympic metal, gold or otherwise means for an 0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.880 athlete's career, Like how how a golfer's career? How do 0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:15.319 we how do we contextualize that we know what a 0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.719 major means, we have an approximate idea of what a 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:23.240 player's championship means. I would argue, like about half a major. 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:27.360 We've got an idea of what those season long championships 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:30.840 mean that the CME Globe and the FedEx Cup. Basically 0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.160 they don't They don't mean much. They don't They don't 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:35.960 tend to get mentioned that often unless a player you 0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:39.160 know has doesn't have any other high distinctions. Oh yeah, 0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:40.520 you want a fed X Cup. 0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:43.319 So cup. 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:48.239 Patrick and Billy Horschell won a Cup. Yeah, which p 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.799 XG once said was was a major in one of 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.720 the great moments of early golf Twitter. 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.359 I forgot. I forgot that Billy was a p XG 0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:57.959 guy at the for a little while. 0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:02.120 Yeah, Billy Herschel, He's really had quite a journey over 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:06.279 the past few years. So in any case, where do 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.279 you think an Olympic medal fits in that? Where do 0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.440 you think it could fit in that? Will it be 0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:14.480 something that we say, like this player won five majors 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:16.760 and an Olympic gold medal, and the Olympic gold medal 0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:18.080 is a meaningful part of that. 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:22.400 I think it's to be determined right now, Like it's 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.040 a part of like the Justin Rose. Like when you 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.560 talk about Justin Rose, it's like, you know, he won 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.279 a US Open, he won an Olympic gold. He's been 0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:33.400 super close in a ton of majors he's won. He 0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:36.120 was world number one, world number I think world number 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:40.439 one would come before Olympic gold right now, yeah, TV, 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:45.080 yeah right, if you were going down Xanders right now, 0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:49.160 I think Olympic gold would come pretty shortly after his 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:54.400 two majors. So I think it's to be determined. 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:54.799 But like. 0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.680 I think, if we get another release quality set of 0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:04.520 Winner this year and then you've got Rivieric going next, 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:08.920 I think the Olympics will have started to establish Like listen, 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:13.239 like not nobody, no Schmoe's come out here and win 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:17.000 the Olympics, right. I do think, like I was, I 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:19.680 was talking the other part of this podcast is with 0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:25.160 Nicholas Colestarts and he was like, the the feeling on 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:29.560 the first t is not like it was like the 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:34.240 Ryder Cup. You know, there's a gravity to an Olympic medal. 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.480 I also one of the things I love about the 0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:41.960 Olympics is that it's not like there are three things 0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:45.440 that you're watching, like it's a super compelling event to 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:49.560 watch on the last day because first, second, and third 0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:53.160 all matters so much. Because a bronze medal like you 0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:55.440 just think about the Olympics and like the medal count 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.520 as a country. You know, if you're if you're for 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:01.000 a country that has no medals and you could get 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:05.200 one medal, that you're national hero. I think that is 0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:09.720 the the unique thing that the Olympic springs is that 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:14.520 Olympic medal. In terms of like the trophy. Everybody was 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.080 talking about how great of a trophy the claret jug is. 0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.360 You know what's better than the Claric jug? 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:21.120 Gold medal? 0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:26.400 A gold medal, gold medal, gold medal is unanimously yeah. 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:29.680 Have you ever held one? Have you ever like, yeah, 0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:34.840 they're heavy, right, they're very heavy. Yeah. I grew up swimming, right, 0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:39.680 and so occasionally we would get visited by by Olympic 0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:44.600 medalists and I held one of Janet Evans's gold medals, 0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:48.760 and I mean there was something about it. It was like, man, 0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:50.880 this is this is cool. It feels like this should 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:53.320 be in a museum or something. But yeah, there is 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:57.800 an absolute mystique and aura around that trophy. 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.120 I mean it's not just a gold medal. Two is 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:03.520 a silver medal, Yeah, a bronze medal like. 0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:07.760 Those are also really cool, you know, And I think. 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:11.960 Like from that that regard, I'm like super Bowl. I 0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.919 think a lot of people in golf are very down 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:19.640 on the Olympics, and I am super bollish about their future. 0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:21.080 I am buying the. 0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:26.600 Olympics, yeah, and I think that what's required is complete 0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:31.200 buy in right, go after it. Do what Colin Morikawa 0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:35.040 is doing this week. All credit to Colin for investing, 0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:38.840 showing up to the opening ceremony, going to other events. 0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:42.080 He is having the experience and doing the thing that 0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:45.960 needs to be done in order for this competition to 0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:50.440 really ascend. Ricky Fowler did his job at his Olympics 0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:53.440 as well, right, trying to make it significant and getting 0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:56.720 as much out of the experience as possible, learning from 0:59:56.840 --> 1:00:01.320 other athletes, like participating in this commune. That's what the 1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:04.800 Olympics is about. It's an international community of athletes who 1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:07.920 love their sports and there's something so pure about that 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:11.720 and it is really an honor to get to participate 1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:16.280 in it. And so the extent to which golf invests 1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:20.400 in the Olympics and truly commits to it, that is 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.120 the extent to which this part of the Olympics, this 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:26.600 event in the Olympics is going to be successful now 1:00:27.120 --> 1:00:29.880 it is a true time. We'll tell situation though, because 1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:35.040 one thing about an event happening every four years is that, yes, 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:38.240 it's special when it happens, like the World Cup. It's 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:40.480 so cool when it happens because it only happens every 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:43.160 four years. But the flip side of that is that 1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.600 it takes a long time for the event, for any 1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:49.960 given event that happens every four years, to gain momentum 1:00:50.440 --> 1:00:53.840 and to establish some kind of tradition and some kind 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:57.800 of hold on the memories of the players and the fans, 1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:01.280 right and we haven't gotten there yet with golf. We've 1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:03.680 only had two of them so far. And so the 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:07.800 more we have great Olympic golf competitions, the more the 1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:11.880 event will gain some weight, gain some tradition and memory 1:01:12.200 --> 1:01:15.040 and you know, get all those things that that right 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:16.520 now the other Olympic events have. 1:01:17.080 --> 1:01:21.480 There has to be eventually, like the sport really the 1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:25.560 sport in the competition makes sense when you start to 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:30.520 have kids or kids that become pro golfers, maybe that say, 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:34.080 you know, I grew up watching golf in the Olympics, 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:37.760 you know, because like right now, I think one of 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:41.080 the things why the Masters is the maybe the granddaddy 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:44.400 of them all is I grew up watching the Masters. 1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:47.280 You know, like there's almost like a it's like a 1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:50.520 religion to it, where like it is a you know, 1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:53.240 it is people set aside the time and there's a 1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:57.919 real ritual around watching the Masters. But I think they're 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:01.720 they're golf being in the Olympics has the opportunity to 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:06.200 have people stumble into the sport. And you know, we 1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:10.520 make fun of growth the game and all the I 1:02:10.520 --> 1:02:14.000 think the people that maybe exploit this phrase grow the game, 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:18.320 but put putting golf in the position for millions of 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:22.600 sports fans, especially from like a global sense, like in 1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:26.600 in places that you know aren't maybe that familiar with golf, 1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:30.800 giving them the opportunity, just the opportunity to stumble into 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:34.800 the sport is a great, great part of golf being 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.240 in the Olympics at the bare minimum. 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:40.800 Yeah, completely agree. So hoping for a good competition at 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:42.160 the golf nasty. 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:44.160 Now I'm kind of in. I think I'm in on 1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:45.760 like golf nasty now. 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:47.200 Tell me why quickly. 1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:53.320 I just I appreciate, I appreciate that it's very different 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:57.360 from what I'm excited to watch a golf course that 1:02:57.400 --> 1:03:01.320 we don't see all the time, Okay, I mean we've 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:04.040 seen it amount. 1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:09.200 Ryder Cups. You know, the French Open. I don't what 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:11.200 happened to the French Open and or the Open. 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:14.200 Let me tell you something. The finishes of the French 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:17.360 Opens there were like exhilarating. 1:03:17.440 --> 1:03:20.680 Yeah, they were pretty electric. That one. 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:23.160 It was it was it Levy, Alex Levy was in 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:23.640 that one. 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:26.240 God, I don't remember, but I remember Tommy Fleetwood like 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:30.360 sitting there watching people come are who were behind him 1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:34.800 on the day and that being pretty excited because the last. 1:03:34.560 --> 1:03:38.160 Hole is like a true coming down the position. 1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:40.840 Yeah. And there's there's a mixture of tough and and 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:44.480 get a bowl holes. Yeah. It is a pretty effective 1:03:44.520 --> 1:03:45.960 stadium golf course for sure. 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:49.960 Yeah. And and like this was just over a French 1:03:50.000 --> 1:03:53.360 Open like there, I think it could be really fun 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:56.400 course to watch with Olympic gold on the line, Like 1:03:56.440 --> 1:04:00.240 you could see some real meltdowns you could, And I 1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:05.960 I don't is our meltdowns our meltdowns the best the 1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:07.640 best finishes in golf. 1:04:08.960 --> 1:04:10.120 Or no? 1:04:10.560 --> 1:04:13.560 Do you like do you like the the occasion? 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:15.920 Yeah? I like the rising to the I mean, but 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:18.760 both The answer is both, of course, right, And the 1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:22.560 reason that Augusta National is such a great tournament venue 1:04:22.600 --> 1:04:25.800 in back nine is that there's potential for both on 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:28.720 that back night, right on the same hole often. 1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:29.080 Right. 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:37.240 No, I mean, okay, I'm I'm I'm inclined to amp 1:04:37.320 --> 1:04:40.960 up the Olympic competition. Golf competition, however, is necessary because 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:43.160 I want this to be a big thing that that 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:46.200 you know, is part of the greatest sporting event in 1:04:46.200 --> 1:04:50.200 the world. But I think the golf is sort of 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:53.280 like a Pete Die course without the personality. 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:57.080 Yeah, I don't basic think I could really want to 1:04:57.080 --> 1:05:01.640 play it. Ever, I I do. I think that there's 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:05.080 every once in a while, I'm okay watching a golf 1:05:05.080 --> 1:05:07.080 tournament there. I think I'm brady to watch a golf 1:05:07.080 --> 1:05:08.160 tournament there this week. 1:05:08.360 --> 1:05:10.840 Well, I think it's like it's a course that does 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:13.680 prefer a certain playing style. And I think one thing 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:16.160 about the US team, if we want to be nationalistic 1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:18.560 here for a second, is that there are a few 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:22.680 players who are pretty well suited to this style. Of course. More, 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:25.240 Kawa is a great course fit here. I think Scheffler, 1:05:25.640 --> 1:05:28.560 Scheffler can is you know, Scheffler and Xander are sort 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:32.080 of like all court players, they can do well anywhere, 1:05:32.120 --> 1:05:36.439 but Schaffle certainly has proven that at an accuracy test 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:38.439 like the golf Nacy now where you know the golf 1:05:38.520 --> 1:05:41.160 Nascy now. Part of what makes it distinctive is that 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:45.640 it truly does reward accuracy off the tea. It doesn't 1:05:45.680 --> 1:05:52.640 disincentivize distance, but it certainly incentivizes accuracy more than we're 1:05:52.720 --> 1:05:56.720 used to seeing on regular PGA Tour courses. So I 1:05:56.720 --> 1:05:59.800 think Xander is well situated. Scheffler can do well anywhere, 1:05:59.800 --> 1:06:01.560 but he can do well on this kind of course. 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:09.160 Wyndham Clark terrible course fit here. I mean for toasties. Yeah, 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:12.720 don't you love the Argentinian team here? It's toasty and 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:15.840 and and Grillo or Grillo Have we decided if it's 1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:20.919 Grio or Okay? Well, in any case, that's a that's 1:06:20.920 --> 1:06:24.040 a cranky duo. That's a I'd like I'd like to 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:26.880 see them playing playing some team golf together. That would 1:06:26.920 --> 1:06:27.280 be fun. 1:06:27.840 --> 1:06:30.480 Yeah, maybe they could get al Pato to run out 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:32.560 around out the third spot. 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:36.400 He did well, he did el Pato's back. 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