1 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:08,046 Speaker 1: And Huddle is a production of the NFL and partnership 2 00:00:08,086 --> 00:00:15,566 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Hello everyone, MACAELM. Madriguez, Detroit Lions linebacker. You're 3 00:00:15,566 --> 00:00:18,406 Speaker 1: listening to the L Huddle Podcast. Oh I get thal. 4 00:00:18,606 --> 00:00:22,526 Speaker 1: What's good? Everybody? Welcome in to another edition of the 5 00:00:22,846 --> 00:00:28,446 Speaker 1: L Huddle Podcast. My Prima me prima Erma m J 6 00:00:28,606 --> 00:00:31,966 Speaker 1: Cassa Ruiz with Will Selva. So glad you were with us, 7 00:00:32,246 --> 00:00:34,966 Speaker 1: m J. Glad that you are with me. You were 8 00:00:35,166 --> 00:00:40,606 Speaker 1: out the previous week because your throat was not feeling 9 00:00:40,686 --> 00:00:43,166 Speaker 1: so hot. You weren't feeling so hot. And the first 10 00:00:43,206 --> 00:00:48,046 Speaker 1: thing I immediately thought was did she use? Of course 11 00:00:48,086 --> 00:00:53,966 Speaker 1: I use immediately flattered on it didn't work, But I 12 00:00:54,006 --> 00:00:57,886 Speaker 1: mean basically my body just said, um, you need to 13 00:00:57,926 --> 00:01:00,846 Speaker 1: go sit down somewhere, calm down. You know, the grind 14 00:01:00,886 --> 00:01:03,366 Speaker 1: has been sort of crazy, running back and forth. Um, 15 00:01:03,686 --> 00:01:05,926 Speaker 1: right after Super Bowl we go right into combine it. 16 00:01:06,086 --> 00:01:08,726 Speaker 1: You know, it sort of never ends. And you know 17 00:01:08,766 --> 00:01:11,086 Speaker 1: how what it's like, Well, we we like push and 18 00:01:11,126 --> 00:01:13,206 Speaker 1: push and eventually it gets to a point where like 19 00:01:13,446 --> 00:01:17,406 Speaker 1: your body will tell you not today, not today. Yeah 20 00:01:17,406 --> 00:01:19,566 Speaker 1: you know so, but yeah I'm feeling much better. Thank you? 21 00:01:20,286 --> 00:01:23,566 Speaker 1: Good good. I wanted to tell you that I saw 22 00:01:23,606 --> 00:01:28,326 Speaker 1: it Nate Burlison, or brother, who was co hosting at 23 00:01:28,366 --> 00:01:31,486 Speaker 1: the Kid's Choice Awards. So cool not seeing him in 24 00:01:31,526 --> 00:01:33,606 Speaker 1: like three and a half years. Oh, you hadn't seen 25 00:01:33,686 --> 00:01:36,966 Speaker 1: him in real life? I had not. Well, I mean 26 00:01:37,006 --> 00:01:39,046 Speaker 1: it's been a while. It was like three years or 27 00:01:39,046 --> 00:01:41,126 Speaker 1: something like that since we saw each other. And obviously, 28 00:01:41,166 --> 00:01:42,886 Speaker 1: I'm so so proud of him. He's like a brother. 29 00:01:43,006 --> 00:01:45,566 Speaker 1: And and we were just hanging out in his dressing 30 00:01:45,646 --> 00:01:49,166 Speaker 1: room and just joking around, having fun and went over 31 00:01:49,206 --> 00:01:52,606 Speaker 1: the scripts and you know how prepared he is. Oh yeah, 32 00:01:52,686 --> 00:01:56,846 Speaker 1: and literally he wanted me to throw out like the 33 00:01:56,886 --> 00:02:01,446 Speaker 1: first line of a script of his part, and he 34 00:02:01,886 --> 00:02:05,646 Speaker 1: then would call out what it was, and man, why 35 00:02:05,686 --> 00:02:09,286 Speaker 1: don't you know it? They knew it? Yeah, yeah, And 36 00:02:09,446 --> 00:02:11,286 Speaker 1: I took my daughter and her friend. It was so 37 00:02:11,366 --> 00:02:14,206 Speaker 1: much fun because then they they had a chance to 38 00:02:14,246 --> 00:02:17,726 Speaker 1: see you know, Charlie Damilio, which was he you know, 39 00:02:18,006 --> 00:02:21,206 Speaker 1: and and massive deal and then they saw him Mark 40 00:02:21,286 --> 00:02:24,326 Speaker 1: Ballace from Dancing with the Stars. Obviously he won with 41 00:02:24,446 --> 00:02:27,646 Speaker 1: Charlie Damilia. Couldn't have been nicer. And then you know, 42 00:02:27,646 --> 00:02:30,046 Speaker 1: we're sitting right next to the little baby as well, 43 00:02:31,086 --> 00:02:34,486 Speaker 1: which just yeah, yeah, And so it's like I gotta, 44 00:02:34,886 --> 00:02:37,486 Speaker 1: I gotta say, what's up to him? I gotta I said, yeah, yeah, 45 00:02:37,526 --> 00:02:41,486 Speaker 1: we paid you know, Uh, he's he was. Saw him 46 00:02:41,486 --> 00:02:46,446 Speaker 1: performed in in person was so cool and um, you 47 00:02:46,486 --> 00:02:49,006 Speaker 1: know Nate seeing him perform too, because he was nervous 48 00:02:49,046 --> 00:02:52,446 Speaker 1: about the opening dance number. So great to see him, 49 00:02:52,486 --> 00:02:54,726 Speaker 1: great to catch up with him, and uh I know 50 00:02:54,846 --> 00:02:58,286 Speaker 1: that that obviously you know Nate well and I love 51 00:02:58,366 --> 00:03:02,606 Speaker 1: him like I do so in um in Phoenix very 52 00:03:02,686 --> 00:03:05,206 Speaker 1: quickly right because we're all sort of like we're ship's 53 00:03:05,206 --> 00:03:07,486 Speaker 1: passing in the night very quickly of going through the 54 00:03:07,486 --> 00:03:10,846 Speaker 1: convention center there and a saw of course his amazing wife, LaToya, 55 00:03:11,406 --> 00:03:14,446 Speaker 1: and it's an Armia who's just like she is killing 56 00:03:14,486 --> 00:03:17,246 Speaker 1: it to the whole family is just like a family 57 00:03:17,246 --> 00:03:23,926 Speaker 1: of superstars, but like really, guys. But it's so great 58 00:03:23,966 --> 00:03:27,406 Speaker 1: to see and you love to see it. And Nate's 59 00:03:27,446 --> 00:03:29,966 Speaker 1: so big time now, but he's not because he's still Nate. 60 00:03:30,086 --> 00:03:32,126 Speaker 1: And I think that's my favorite part, and that part 61 00:03:32,166 --> 00:03:34,246 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all because we know him as 62 00:03:34,286 --> 00:03:37,366 Speaker 1: a person, not just Nate the football player, Nate the host, 63 00:03:37,486 --> 00:03:40,526 Speaker 1: or Nate the performer like he is, genuinely a good dude. 64 00:03:40,526 --> 00:03:42,766 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys got to catch up for 65 00:03:42,806 --> 00:03:44,566 Speaker 1: a while there. I know he misses you, want to 66 00:03:44,566 --> 00:03:47,886 Speaker 1: talks about you. Yeah, I just see's a loyal guy. 67 00:03:47,926 --> 00:03:51,606 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's what I told him too. And so 68 00:03:51,726 --> 00:03:54,686 Speaker 1: proud of him, Yeah, and so proud of us having 69 00:03:54,726 --> 00:03:58,046 Speaker 1: this podcast because we get a chance to talk to 70 00:03:58,326 --> 00:04:04,006 Speaker 1: these other Latino voices in the sports world and they 71 00:04:04,246 --> 00:04:08,326 Speaker 1: amplify by their viewpoints and their journey to get to 72 00:04:08,406 --> 00:04:11,046 Speaker 1: this point. And I am happy to say that we 73 00:04:11,166 --> 00:04:15,806 Speaker 1: have lines linebacker Malcolm Rodriguez with us. So we'll get 74 00:04:15,846 --> 00:04:19,766 Speaker 1: into it with him. How he likes to have his burrito, 75 00:04:20,006 --> 00:04:24,526 Speaker 1: very particular about that. Well, well we'll delve into a 76 00:04:24,566 --> 00:04:26,966 Speaker 1: bunch of things with him. So can't wait for that 77 00:04:26,966 --> 00:04:29,926 Speaker 1: that's coming up. But right now we've got the headlines. Yes, 78 00:04:30,086 --> 00:04:37,366 Speaker 1: we've got the lad breaking news is just in oh m, 79 00:04:38,086 --> 00:04:42,806 Speaker 1: the headline that number and grown this the collective grown 80 00:04:43,526 --> 00:04:48,406 Speaker 1: the eye roll that I feel. So here we go. 81 00:04:48,966 --> 00:04:51,806 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is now revealed that he does intend to 82 00:04:51,886 --> 00:04:55,646 Speaker 1: keep playing, but not for the Packers. This is what 83 00:04:55,686 --> 00:04:58,406 Speaker 1: he had to say on The Pad McAfee show. At 84 00:04:58,406 --> 00:04:59,966 Speaker 1: this point as I sit here, you know, I think 85 00:05:00,006 --> 00:05:03,526 Speaker 1: since Friday, I made it clear that my intention was 86 00:05:03,606 --> 00:05:05,486 Speaker 1: to play, and my intention it was to play for 87 00:05:05,526 --> 00:05:10,646 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, Okay, and I haven't been holding 88 00:05:10,646 --> 00:05:13,246 Speaker 1: anything up at this point. It's been compensation that the 89 00:05:13,286 --> 00:05:16,006 Speaker 1: packers are trying to get. Always going to have love 90 00:05:16,006 --> 00:05:19,486 Speaker 1: for that organization, but the facts are right now they 91 00:05:19,846 --> 00:05:21,326 Speaker 1: want to move on. Oh my god, it's right to 92 00:05:21,606 --> 00:05:26,366 Speaker 1: see it now. And now what um since Friday? Okay, great, 93 00:05:26,606 --> 00:05:30,326 Speaker 1: super convincing, Thank you. UM. I don't know that anyone 94 00:05:30,486 --> 00:05:32,846 Speaker 1: expected this to go any differently, right, So it's like 95 00:05:33,326 --> 00:05:39,086 Speaker 1: we've been waiting for news, definitive news, but to me 96 00:05:39,566 --> 00:05:41,686 Speaker 1: to keep it a buck. He didn't really say anything 97 00:05:41,726 --> 00:05:45,126 Speaker 1: new other than the day in which he decided that 98 00:05:45,246 --> 00:05:46,966 Speaker 1: he wanted to keep on playing, which was not that 99 00:05:47,046 --> 00:05:50,526 Speaker 1: long ago, right, Um, So, intending to play for the Jets, 100 00:05:50,526 --> 00:05:52,526 Speaker 1: though that didn't intending to play for the team that 101 00:05:52,566 --> 00:05:54,366 Speaker 1: flew across the country on a private jet to come 102 00:05:54,366 --> 00:05:56,206 Speaker 1: talk to you in Malibu. Yeah, I hope so, I 103 00:05:56,206 --> 00:06:03,326 Speaker 1: would hope, so, I would hope. I love an. I 104 00:06:03,766 --> 00:06:09,566 Speaker 1: overall thought that for Aaron Rodgers. We talk about how 105 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:13,926 Speaker 1: doing this coverage. It drives us insane. Right, It's a 106 00:06:13,966 --> 00:06:18,606 Speaker 1: grand chick, which in Nicaraguo is a big cluster, right, 107 00:06:18,646 --> 00:06:23,006 Speaker 1: And this is what it's felt like. And if he's 108 00:06:23,006 --> 00:06:27,086 Speaker 1: in our minds, guess what reporters, hosts, etc. Were in 109 00:06:27,206 --> 00:06:30,606 Speaker 1: his mind as well. You know, we've we've talked about 110 00:06:30,686 --> 00:06:33,766 Speaker 1: pettiness and that sort of thing, so that clearly was 111 00:06:33,886 --> 00:06:36,526 Speaker 1: in his head. I do think that both of these 112 00:06:36,566 --> 00:06:41,086 Speaker 1: teams have leverage. The Jets know that the Packers don't 113 00:06:41,086 --> 00:06:43,766 Speaker 1: have a trade partner, but the Packers now can sit 114 00:06:43,846 --> 00:06:47,086 Speaker 1: back and say, Okay, let's see what offers you are 115 00:06:47,126 --> 00:06:49,206 Speaker 1: going to give us. Now. It doesn't sound like the 116 00:06:49,206 --> 00:06:52,446 Speaker 1: Packers are asking for the moon, and they're not asking 117 00:06:52,486 --> 00:06:55,926 Speaker 1: for two first round picks, so there is some hold 118 00:06:56,006 --> 00:06:58,686 Speaker 1: up there. But the Jets are also painted into a 119 00:06:58,766 --> 00:07:02,846 Speaker 1: corner where they know they have to produce. Now it's 120 00:07:02,846 --> 00:07:05,686 Speaker 1: a point of no return because they don't get him, 121 00:07:05,926 --> 00:07:09,086 Speaker 1: it's going to see as a massive failure in disappointment. 122 00:07:09,726 --> 00:07:12,806 Speaker 1: And now it seems like it's just a matter of 123 00:07:12,846 --> 00:07:15,446 Speaker 1: when the news drops that he's going to be a 124 00:07:15,526 --> 00:07:18,766 Speaker 1: New York chet. And by the way, there's no other 125 00:07:18,806 --> 00:07:22,486 Speaker 1: than like the season starting there's really no deadline day 126 00:07:22,926 --> 00:07:25,366 Speaker 1: for them to get this done, which is super annoying. 127 00:07:25,566 --> 00:07:29,846 Speaker 1: But we can't glaze over the fact that less than 128 00:07:29,846 --> 00:07:33,686 Speaker 1: ten days ago, the Jets were all in on Derek Carr. 129 00:07:34,206 --> 00:07:36,406 Speaker 1: They were hoping that that's the guy that was going 130 00:07:36,446 --> 00:07:39,566 Speaker 1: to be under center for them in New York, New Jersey. 131 00:07:39,966 --> 00:07:42,406 Speaker 1: But Derek ended up going to the Saints. Of course, 132 00:07:42,406 --> 00:07:46,086 Speaker 1: as we know now, so all of this is just 133 00:07:46,646 --> 00:07:50,526 Speaker 1: it's massy. I would like it to be cleaned up quickly. 134 00:07:51,086 --> 00:07:53,846 Speaker 1: Please don't drag this out. Please release us from this chokehold, 135 00:07:54,326 --> 00:07:57,846 Speaker 1: because it's like so yesterday. So we knew, okay, earlier 136 00:07:57,886 --> 00:07:59,686 Speaker 1: this week at some point he's going to talk on 137 00:07:59,726 --> 00:08:03,006 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee's show, Cool Loyalty there to his boy. By 138 00:08:03,006 --> 00:08:06,726 Speaker 1: the way, good for you, Pat, um, but I didn't. 139 00:08:06,766 --> 00:08:09,126 Speaker 1: I had this sense, I had this feeling in my gut. 140 00:08:09,166 --> 00:08:11,086 Speaker 1: I'm like, we're he's gonna talk, but we're not. But 141 00:08:11,166 --> 00:08:13,286 Speaker 1: this is not going to be over. So it's not 142 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:15,246 Speaker 1: going to be a situation where like, all right, here's 143 00:08:15,246 --> 00:08:17,766 Speaker 1: all of the information, the deal is going to get done. No, 144 00:08:17,846 --> 00:08:21,806 Speaker 1: because still here we all are waiting for now the 145 00:08:21,846 --> 00:08:24,566 Speaker 1: business side of things, which is far more complicated than 146 00:08:24,566 --> 00:08:28,166 Speaker 1: any Darkness retreat. Um, now that still has to go on. 147 00:08:28,526 --> 00:08:30,806 Speaker 1: I'm over it and think about it. He could mess 148 00:08:30,846 --> 00:08:32,766 Speaker 1: things up for the Packers if he decides to show 149 00:08:32,806 --> 00:08:35,806 Speaker 1: up for an offseason workout right, right, and then that 150 00:08:35,886 --> 00:08:39,646 Speaker 1: money becomes guaranteed. So don't think he's gonna do that. 151 00:08:39,806 --> 00:08:42,686 Speaker 1: But who never know how these things go, right? Who knows? 152 00:08:43,206 --> 00:08:48,366 Speaker 1: Who knows what's happening in Vegas as all the Raiders? Yeah, 153 00:08:48,446 --> 00:08:53,086 Speaker 1: trading Darren Waller to the Giants for a third round 154 00:08:53,206 --> 00:08:59,006 Speaker 1: pick that disrespectful. Just what they got in return was disrespectful. 155 00:08:59,606 --> 00:09:03,206 Speaker 1: Very excited for you if you're a Giants fan, right, like, 156 00:09:03,286 --> 00:09:06,006 Speaker 1: this is a huge acquisition and Darren wallerwick, I who 157 00:09:06,046 --> 00:09:09,286 Speaker 1: you're hugy? Yeah, not that right. My husband's very happy 158 00:09:09,286 --> 00:09:11,126 Speaker 1: that he's there, but he's confused. He's like, all right, 159 00:09:11,126 --> 00:09:13,366 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ask you how you 160 00:09:13,366 --> 00:09:15,526 Speaker 1: got the fire sale. I'm just glad that you got it. 161 00:09:16,966 --> 00:09:18,806 Speaker 1: But a lot of folks were like, oh, well, like 162 00:09:18,886 --> 00:09:21,006 Speaker 1: Jimmy g must be so, um, did we forget that 163 00:09:21,006 --> 00:09:24,926 Speaker 1: he still has Davante Adams and Josh Jacobs and Hunter Renfro. 164 00:09:25,526 --> 00:09:27,646 Speaker 1: I mean they got a bulk up the defense a 165 00:09:27,646 --> 00:09:29,926 Speaker 1: bit more now, but in terms of like offensive pieces, 166 00:09:29,966 --> 00:09:34,446 Speaker 1: there's still a lot to work with over there in Vegas. 167 00:09:34,526 --> 00:09:37,566 Speaker 1: So it was odd to me that the trade off 168 00:09:37,606 --> 00:09:42,326 Speaker 1: was a third rounder. But I'm I'm happy for Darren. 169 00:09:42,446 --> 00:09:44,726 Speaker 1: I think he's he's a tremendous player. He's gonna bring 170 00:09:44,846 --> 00:09:47,206 Speaker 1: so much to the Giants and to day ball. I 171 00:09:47,286 --> 00:09:49,606 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a real cool connection to between 172 00:09:49,646 --> 00:09:53,846 Speaker 1: coach and player. But that was I think the big 173 00:09:53,926 --> 00:09:56,686 Speaker 1: shock point of that trade was the third round pick, 174 00:09:56,846 --> 00:10:01,926 Speaker 1: number one hundred going over there. If you look at 175 00:10:02,686 --> 00:10:08,686 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox's final season with Brian Dable as the OC, 176 00:10:09,406 --> 00:10:13,206 Speaker 1: he was highly productive. Yeah, that's the potential that they 177 00:10:13,246 --> 00:10:17,726 Speaker 1: have in New York. They signed Daniel Jones to his contract. 178 00:10:17,966 --> 00:10:21,766 Speaker 1: Sa Quon was tagged and we talked about it throughout 179 00:10:21,806 --> 00:10:25,246 Speaker 1: the season. He had no one to throw too. It's yeah, 180 00:10:25,646 --> 00:10:29,726 Speaker 1: I think it number one receiver, but he does. This 181 00:10:29,766 --> 00:10:34,046 Speaker 1: is a good step. This is absolutely a great first 182 00:10:34,086 --> 00:10:36,326 Speaker 1: step for them, and this is also a team friendly 183 00:10:36,406 --> 00:10:40,006 Speaker 1: contract for them that they are inheriting as well, So 184 00:10:40,006 --> 00:10:42,606 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out after a year or be 185 00:10:42,726 --> 00:10:46,806 Speaker 1: still hurt, then they can cut bait, but if he 186 00:10:46,966 --> 00:10:50,846 Speaker 1: is indeed healthy, he could be a mismatch nightmare for 187 00:10:50,966 --> 00:10:55,926 Speaker 1: them and really boost up this offense and Daniel Jones 188 00:10:55,966 --> 00:10:58,406 Speaker 1: because now the expectations are there because he does have 189 00:10:58,806 --> 00:11:04,126 Speaker 1: a contract and before Darren Wall was hurt, you know, 190 00:11:04,166 --> 00:11:06,806 Speaker 1: two years ago go he was mentioned the same breath 191 00:11:06,846 --> 00:11:10,286 Speaker 1: as as Kelsey and Kittle, and Andrews is one of 192 00:11:10,286 --> 00:11:13,086 Speaker 1: the top tight ends in the league. So I think 193 00:11:13,246 --> 00:11:18,726 Speaker 1: it's a win for the Giants, no question. Now this 194 00:11:18,846 --> 00:11:23,246 Speaker 1: takes us to another player who is leaving, a long 195 00:11:23,326 --> 00:11:27,126 Speaker 1: time player, and that would be Ezekiel Elliott, who was 196 00:11:27,166 --> 00:11:31,286 Speaker 1: informed that he would be cut and so now he 197 00:11:31,486 --> 00:11:35,806 Speaker 1: is without a team. What is what's your initial thought 198 00:11:35,926 --> 00:11:41,286 Speaker 1: of this? You know, it's weird because first of all, 199 00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:44,086 Speaker 1: it's weird to think of Zeke not in a Cowboys uniform, 200 00:11:44,246 --> 00:11:48,246 Speaker 1: right right, so synonymous, so synonymous with him. But now 201 00:11:48,326 --> 00:11:52,086 Speaker 1: I'm having a tough time placing him on another team, 202 00:11:52,126 --> 00:11:55,286 Speaker 1: not just based on needs the prospects that are coming in, 203 00:11:55,846 --> 00:11:57,486 Speaker 1: but what they would need to pay him as well. 204 00:11:57,486 --> 00:12:00,166 Speaker 1: Like Zeke is probably not gonna play for a millie, right, 205 00:12:00,446 --> 00:12:04,486 Speaker 1: nor should he. But it's so weird with the running 206 00:12:04,486 --> 00:12:08,246 Speaker 1: back asition because they love you until until they don't 207 00:12:08,446 --> 00:12:11,166 Speaker 1: write like they run him to the wheels fall off, 208 00:12:11,166 --> 00:12:15,766 Speaker 1: and so thinking just thinking that the window for him 209 00:12:15,846 --> 00:12:19,886 Speaker 1: is closing is wild to me. But we've seen this 210 00:12:19,966 --> 00:12:23,046 Speaker 1: happened before. Remember Todd Gurley literally disappeared off the Faith 211 00:12:23,046 --> 00:12:26,686 Speaker 1: a great point, and he helped that team one of 212 00:12:26,686 --> 00:12:28,646 Speaker 1: the main reasons that team got to a Super Bowl. 213 00:12:29,246 --> 00:12:33,606 Speaker 1: We're talking twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen years right, um, Melvin Gordon, 214 00:12:33,926 --> 00:12:36,486 Speaker 1: same thing. Now, He's bouncing around from team to team 215 00:12:36,486 --> 00:12:38,846 Speaker 1: and the Chargers were using him as like the main 216 00:12:39,126 --> 00:12:42,326 Speaker 1: big bodied back. It's nuts. That's why you see guys 217 00:12:42,366 --> 00:12:44,286 Speaker 1: like Austin Eckler saying, hey, I want to trade, I 218 00:12:44,286 --> 00:12:47,366 Speaker 1: want to get paid now because I know what's coming 219 00:12:47,406 --> 00:12:50,126 Speaker 1: in the future. And then the Zeke news happens and 220 00:12:50,206 --> 00:12:53,566 Speaker 1: he gets released. So it's it's it's this league is 221 00:12:54,766 --> 00:12:58,446 Speaker 1: bittersweet for running backs. It just is, you know it is. 222 00:12:58,606 --> 00:13:00,886 Speaker 1: It's it's brutal. He's not going to get the kind 223 00:13:00,886 --> 00:13:03,926 Speaker 1: of money that Jamal Williams got from the Saints or 224 00:13:04,046 --> 00:13:08,966 Speaker 1: Miles Sands got from the Panthers. I hate to put 225 00:13:08,966 --> 00:13:12,846 Speaker 1: it in these terms, but I think this was long overdue. 226 00:13:12,926 --> 00:13:16,566 Speaker 1: They probably should have been done probably two three years ago. 227 00:13:16,966 --> 00:13:20,206 Speaker 1: The reality is that the contract was a bad one. 228 00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:24,286 Speaker 1: Great for him, but it was not good from a 229 00:13:24,326 --> 00:13:28,526 Speaker 1: team building standpoint. Now, Zeke was a staple in Dallas 230 00:13:28,606 --> 00:13:31,046 Speaker 1: where when he got that contract, he was one of 231 00:13:31,086 --> 00:13:34,006 Speaker 1: the top five running backs at that time, and he 232 00:13:34,046 --> 00:13:38,366 Speaker 1: deserved big money. I just don't think that was realistic 233 00:13:38,406 --> 00:13:41,046 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to do. They tend to overpay a 234 00:13:41,086 --> 00:13:44,246 Speaker 1: little bit for their own players, and Zeke did a lot. 235 00:13:44,286 --> 00:13:47,686 Speaker 1: I mean, he helped out Dak Prescott with his development, 236 00:13:48,166 --> 00:13:50,886 Speaker 1: and he's a two time rushing champ. You know, he's 237 00:13:50,926 --> 00:13:54,246 Speaker 1: third in the franchise in rushing yards, so he's meant 238 00:13:54,326 --> 00:13:57,966 Speaker 1: a lot to the franchise. I don't know what the 239 00:13:58,046 --> 00:13:59,846 Speaker 1: market is for him. I don't know if it's just 240 00:14:00,806 --> 00:14:05,486 Speaker 1: a short yardage goal line running back is what he's 241 00:14:05,526 --> 00:14:08,566 Speaker 1: going to be. I'm fascinating to see where he's going 242 00:14:08,646 --> 00:14:11,126 Speaker 1: to go because there are other running backs that are 243 00:14:11,166 --> 00:14:15,446 Speaker 1: still looking to find homes and I don't know how 244 00:14:15,526 --> 00:14:18,286 Speaker 1: teams are going to view him. M Jay. Someone in 245 00:14:18,406 --> 00:14:20,806 Speaker 1: my group chat lit up early this morning and they 246 00:14:20,806 --> 00:14:23,486 Speaker 1: were like, Miami, better makeup play for Zeke I'm like, 247 00:14:23,486 --> 00:14:27,766 Speaker 1: they just resigned both their backs. Ye most yesterday, Yeah, 248 00:14:27,846 --> 00:14:31,766 Speaker 1: pore phenomenal. I'm like, that's not it. That's not the play. 249 00:14:33,086 --> 00:14:37,446 Speaker 1: He's anywhere, you know, So it's it's not because the 250 00:14:37,526 --> 00:14:43,006 Speaker 1: premier guys are staying put Josh Jacobs tagged, Saquon Barkley tagged, 251 00:14:43,206 --> 00:14:46,046 Speaker 1: you know, all of these other people. And so if 252 00:14:46,046 --> 00:14:53,806 Speaker 1: somebody did mention Cincinnati mkay mixing, that could be an 253 00:14:53,806 --> 00:14:58,206 Speaker 1: interesting play. Maybe they're still hoping. They're still hoping, and 254 00:14:58,206 --> 00:15:00,366 Speaker 1: you have to believe, you have to imagine that at 255 00:15:00,366 --> 00:15:03,286 Speaker 1: this point, gms are like, oh, we didn't have this 256 00:15:03,406 --> 00:15:06,206 Speaker 1: potentially on our bingo card, but now we should export 257 00:15:06,566 --> 00:15:10,526 Speaker 1: because the name Ezekiel Elliott carries weight and it should 258 00:15:10,566 --> 00:15:13,246 Speaker 1: still carry weight in the league in my opinion. And 259 00:15:13,366 --> 00:15:16,726 Speaker 1: you know a name that also carries weight. Malcolm Rodriguez, 260 00:15:16,766 --> 00:15:19,526 Speaker 1: the Lions linebacker. He is going to be joining us 261 00:15:19,806 --> 00:15:22,966 Speaker 1: on the l Huddle podcast on the other side. Don't 262 00:15:23,526 --> 00:15:35,806 Speaker 1: miss it. He was an absolute tackling machine eighty seven 263 00:15:35,806 --> 00:15:39,846 Speaker 1: tackles in sixteen games during his rookie year. He was 264 00:15:39,926 --> 00:15:42,526 Speaker 1: named the All Rookie Team. He was also one of 265 00:15:42,526 --> 00:15:49,446 Speaker 1: the stars of Hard Knocks they call him Rodrigo, Malcolm Rodriguez, 266 00:15:49,486 --> 00:15:54,366 Speaker 1: Lions linebacker. Hey, welcome to the l Huddle podcast. What's up, brother, 267 00:15:55,406 --> 00:15:57,966 Speaker 1: what's up guys? Thank you guys for having me. I 268 00:15:57,966 --> 00:16:01,166 Speaker 1: haven't heard Rodrigue in a while. So no one calls 269 00:16:01,166 --> 00:16:05,086 Speaker 1: you that outside of the Lions facility. No, No, they definitely, 270 00:16:05,326 --> 00:16:08,326 Speaker 1: especially here in Michigan now, and they'd like Rodrigo Rodrigo. 271 00:16:08,446 --> 00:16:10,326 Speaker 1: So when I go back home, I'm just with the family, 272 00:16:10,406 --> 00:16:13,366 Speaker 1: so everyone calls me mouth or Malcolm. So it's been 273 00:16:13,406 --> 00:16:15,686 Speaker 1: a while since I heard Rodrigo. It's funny. Well do 274 00:16:15,686 --> 00:16:18,326 Speaker 1: you do you roll your eyes when you hear Rodrigo 275 00:16:18,646 --> 00:16:22,246 Speaker 1: or I just think chicken Stride. Yeah, I take it 276 00:16:22,286 --> 00:16:24,366 Speaker 1: to Stride. It's a name that I was given by 277 00:16:24,526 --> 00:16:27,286 Speaker 1: my DC, So I you know, I take it and 278 00:16:27,366 --> 00:16:30,166 Speaker 1: run with it. Didn't he say at one point like, wait, 279 00:16:30,246 --> 00:16:33,606 Speaker 1: his name is not Rodrigo, Like he at one point, yeah, 280 00:16:33,606 --> 00:16:37,926 Speaker 1: he's coming from Rodrigoz. Well it was. It wasn't the 281 00:16:37,966 --> 00:16:41,006 Speaker 1: coach they knew, like all the coach knew Rodriguez, but 282 00:16:41,086 --> 00:16:43,326 Speaker 1: the players when I first got there, they're like, oh, 283 00:16:43,406 --> 00:16:46,406 Speaker 1: his name is not Rodrigo. Last name, and so they 284 00:16:46,446 --> 00:16:48,526 Speaker 1: found out it was Rodriguez, so they kind of put 285 00:16:48,526 --> 00:16:53,326 Speaker 1: two and two together, like it's Malcolm Luciano Duez, Malcolm 286 00:16:53,966 --> 00:16:59,246 Speaker 1: rog Yeah, they like, yeah, everyone think he's Luciano, but 287 00:16:59,326 --> 00:17:02,726 Speaker 1: that's Italian, so not Italian, you know what, I get 288 00:17:02,766 --> 00:17:04,686 Speaker 1: the twenty three and me who knows, it's probably in 289 00:17:04,846 --> 00:17:07,806 Speaker 1: there too. Yeah, it could be exactly. Yeah, you know, 290 00:17:07,886 --> 00:17:10,006 Speaker 1: we were we were talking a little bit before the 291 00:17:10,086 --> 00:17:15,006 Speaker 1: podcast about your background. You are so proud of your 292 00:17:15,126 --> 00:17:20,166 Speaker 1: roots and of your culture or talk to us about that. Yeah, 293 00:17:20,286 --> 00:17:22,246 Speaker 1: just growing up, you know, my dad's side, he was 294 00:17:22,286 --> 00:17:25,806 Speaker 1: the you know, Spanish side of Mexican side, So growing 295 00:17:25,886 --> 00:17:27,686 Speaker 1: up with my grandma, you know, learned a lot of 296 00:17:27,806 --> 00:17:30,766 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of cushlers through her. But she 297 00:17:30,926 --> 00:17:33,806 Speaker 1: was she was very hard on us. I remember, like 298 00:17:33,886 --> 00:17:36,046 Speaker 1: it was the other day, like she would we would 299 00:17:36,086 --> 00:17:38,366 Speaker 1: be eating food at the table and she like, you 300 00:17:38,446 --> 00:17:40,326 Speaker 1: better eat all your food or you're not leaving this table. 301 00:17:40,406 --> 00:17:42,566 Speaker 1: So she was very hard on us like that. In 302 00:17:42,726 --> 00:17:45,886 Speaker 1: my mom's side, she's also a Native American. So I'm 303 00:17:45,926 --> 00:17:47,846 Speaker 1: a Cherokee. You have Cherokee and me, so kind of 304 00:17:47,846 --> 00:17:49,606 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of everything. But it's 305 00:17:49,606 --> 00:17:51,966 Speaker 1: just one of those things where I just thank for 306 00:17:52,006 --> 00:17:54,526 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be both cultures and kind of just 307 00:17:54,646 --> 00:17:57,206 Speaker 1: ride with it. You know, we saw this post. I 308 00:17:57,246 --> 00:18:00,286 Speaker 1: think it was by your mom who posted this beautiful image. 309 00:18:00,286 --> 00:18:02,366 Speaker 1: When you see posts like that, especially coming from your 310 00:18:02,366 --> 00:18:05,766 Speaker 1: own mom, what does that mean to It just means 311 00:18:05,766 --> 00:18:07,446 Speaker 1: a lot. You know. It's just to support in the 312 00:18:07,726 --> 00:18:11,086 Speaker 1: system I have behind me, and just how supportive everyone 313 00:18:11,206 --> 00:18:14,446 Speaker 1: is the Latino family, even Latino like you know, players 314 00:18:14,486 --> 00:18:17,006 Speaker 1: reach out to me and say, hey, man, true inspiration 315 00:18:17,046 --> 00:18:18,366 Speaker 1: And that's just one of those things where I take 316 00:18:18,406 --> 00:18:21,046 Speaker 1: it the hardware. I'm just a small town kid, just 317 00:18:21,126 --> 00:18:23,206 Speaker 1: kind of living up in the dream in the NFL now, 318 00:18:23,246 --> 00:18:27,206 Speaker 1: So just kind of just playing for those guys in 319 00:18:27,246 --> 00:18:31,006 Speaker 1: the Latino community. You know you mentioned quickly with Will 320 00:18:31,006 --> 00:18:33,326 Speaker 1: while I was trying to get my money together, I 321 00:18:33,446 --> 00:18:36,326 Speaker 1: was still eavesdropping. But you know you guys, didn't you 322 00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:40,966 Speaker 1: and your your family didn't learn Spanish right away? And 323 00:18:41,046 --> 00:18:42,846 Speaker 1: like for Will and I, it's total opposite. I had 324 00:18:42,886 --> 00:18:44,926 Speaker 1: no choice. Like my grandma was also one of like 325 00:18:44,966 --> 00:18:47,686 Speaker 1: the main people who raised me. She did not speak English, 326 00:18:47,726 --> 00:18:50,806 Speaker 1: so by default Spanish was my first language. Where we 327 00:18:50,846 --> 00:18:52,566 Speaker 1: talk about it so much are on the podcast, like 328 00:18:53,086 --> 00:18:58,126 Speaker 1: speaking the languages not take away from your latinida or 329 00:18:58,206 --> 00:19:00,086 Speaker 1: from you being part of the culture, or even from 330 00:19:00,286 --> 00:19:04,326 Speaker 1: your identity, right, Like, it's it's so complex and there's 331 00:19:04,366 --> 00:19:06,926 Speaker 1: such a spectrum, and that's been one of the I 332 00:19:06,966 --> 00:19:10,006 Speaker 1: think most beautiful things, especially when you talk about a 333 00:19:10,086 --> 00:19:14,606 Speaker 1: kid who's now playing in Detroit, Michigan. Right, Like, who's 334 00:19:14,646 --> 00:19:17,646 Speaker 1: to say that you're any anymore or any less? Um, 335 00:19:17,726 --> 00:19:20,646 Speaker 1: So I wanted to throw that in. It's just one 336 00:19:20,686 --> 00:19:22,686 Speaker 1: of those things I've just growing up. Everyone's like, oh, 337 00:19:22,686 --> 00:19:24,686 Speaker 1: you're you're Latino and all that. I'm like, yes, like 338 00:19:24,886 --> 00:19:27,686 Speaker 1: I'm Latino, and like, all right, why don't you speak Spanish? 339 00:19:27,686 --> 00:19:29,526 Speaker 1: And I was, and I was like, it's one of 340 00:19:29,526 --> 00:19:32,526 Speaker 1: those things where my parents knew, like we grew up 341 00:19:32,526 --> 00:19:34,246 Speaker 1: it was all English, so they wanted us not to 342 00:19:34,286 --> 00:19:36,806 Speaker 1: fall behind and just you know, chying to backtrack. So 343 00:19:37,126 --> 00:19:39,286 Speaker 1: they're like, later on down the road, you're you're able 344 00:19:39,326 --> 00:19:42,526 Speaker 1: to learn Spanish. It's easier being around it more. And 345 00:19:42,566 --> 00:19:44,886 Speaker 1: so it's just one of those things where I'm kind 346 00:19:44,886 --> 00:19:46,766 Speaker 1: of just learning as I as I go, So it's 347 00:19:46,966 --> 00:19:48,406 Speaker 1: it's not a big rush for me, but it's one 348 00:19:48,406 --> 00:19:50,566 Speaker 1: of those things I like, I'll make it a hobby. 349 00:19:50,726 --> 00:19:54,726 Speaker 1: I'll make a hobby. I'm gonna learn it one offseason. Yeah, 350 00:19:54,766 --> 00:19:58,526 Speaker 1: we totally get it. You know that. Obviously in Mexico 351 00:19:58,686 --> 00:20:02,086 Speaker 1: there are a lot of rabid football fans, and we 352 00:20:02,166 --> 00:20:04,806 Speaker 1: saw that when the Cardinals and the forty nine ers 353 00:20:04,806 --> 00:20:08,006 Speaker 1: played each other in Mexico City. MJA happened to be there. 354 00:20:08,446 --> 00:20:11,806 Speaker 1: What would it mean to you to go play in 355 00:20:11,846 --> 00:20:14,966 Speaker 1: front of all those Mexican fans down in Mexico City. 356 00:20:15,686 --> 00:20:17,366 Speaker 1: It would be awesome, I know, I know, the love 357 00:20:17,406 --> 00:20:21,046 Speaker 1: would be very you know, enthusiastic going there and just 358 00:20:21,086 --> 00:20:24,006 Speaker 1: being around the latinos and the Mexican crowd and all 359 00:20:24,006 --> 00:20:26,046 Speaker 1: that stuff. I would I would be happy to go 360 00:20:26,086 --> 00:20:29,846 Speaker 1: play in an area like that. Um, I want to 361 00:20:29,886 --> 00:20:33,686 Speaker 1: peel back some of the many layers of Malcolm here here. 362 00:20:33,686 --> 00:20:38,766 Speaker 1: You're a big Marvel fan. Can the Conqueror is making 363 00:20:38,766 --> 00:20:42,286 Speaker 1: a wave right because Jonathan Majors just played him so amazingly, 364 00:20:42,406 --> 00:20:44,766 Speaker 1: had us rooting for honestly, had me rooting for for 365 00:20:44,886 --> 00:20:47,086 Speaker 1: the villain, for the bad guy. What does that say 366 00:20:47,086 --> 00:20:48,886 Speaker 1: about me? I don't know, But do you think he's 367 00:20:48,886 --> 00:20:51,686 Speaker 1: a better villain than Thanos? And how do you say 368 00:20:51,806 --> 00:20:59,606 Speaker 1: Thanos Thanos because there's I think I say, thank yeah exactly. 369 00:20:59,606 --> 00:21:01,726 Speaker 1: I end up watching him before like the whole show. 370 00:21:01,806 --> 00:21:03,886 Speaker 1: The Whole show came out and it was the Loki 371 00:21:03,966 --> 00:21:06,206 Speaker 1: one kind of know that he was coming in and 372 00:21:06,246 --> 00:21:08,966 Speaker 1: the multiverse. Like I said, I'm a big Marvel guy. 373 00:21:09,006 --> 00:21:11,166 Speaker 1: I remember I used to binge watch that like what 374 00:21:11,286 --> 00:21:14,846 Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven movies all in her own, Like yeah, 375 00:21:15,006 --> 00:21:17,006 Speaker 1: only a true fan would do that. By the way, 376 00:21:17,126 --> 00:21:18,566 Speaker 1: It's on one of those things where I just pick 377 00:21:18,646 --> 00:21:20,366 Speaker 1: up on little stuff that I've missed the first time 378 00:21:20,406 --> 00:21:22,646 Speaker 1: and I just keep going after it. I'm a one 379 00:21:22,686 --> 00:21:24,846 Speaker 1: and done. I'm gonna watch it one time that like 380 00:21:25,806 --> 00:21:28,566 Speaker 1: I got it. I got Yeah. Well that's one of 381 00:21:28,606 --> 00:21:31,126 Speaker 1: those things where like I would be like on TikTok 382 00:21:31,206 --> 00:21:32,806 Speaker 1: or something like that, be like, oh did you see this, 383 00:21:32,846 --> 00:21:34,806 Speaker 1: and like it's like these theories like I have to 384 00:21:34,846 --> 00:21:38,406 Speaker 1: do It's it's it's a message message with my mind, 385 00:21:38,446 --> 00:21:42,846 Speaker 1: so like I gotta go watch this now. Hey, So, 386 00:21:42,846 --> 00:21:46,406 Speaker 1: so we were talking about you. You know your your upbringing, 387 00:21:46,606 --> 00:21:50,006 Speaker 1: you know how important your your grandmother was to you, 388 00:21:50,726 --> 00:21:55,086 Speaker 1: and I know that there is a special dish that 389 00:21:55,246 --> 00:21:59,486 Speaker 1: you like to have when you're home tell her audience 390 00:21:59,926 --> 00:22:05,806 Speaker 1: what it is and do you ever deviate from that dish. 391 00:22:06,006 --> 00:22:09,606 Speaker 1: It's it's called a wet burrito, and it's moms. She 392 00:22:09,726 --> 00:22:12,526 Speaker 1: does like a whole flower tortilla, and she does a 393 00:22:12,566 --> 00:22:14,486 Speaker 1: wheat one. Now because I'm trying to watch my figure. 394 00:22:14,726 --> 00:22:20,166 Speaker 1: You know, I can't be going to come on, I 395 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,566 Speaker 1: get one, I get one cheap mil week. So she's like, 396 00:22:22,566 --> 00:22:24,406 Speaker 1: all right, I'll make this on a Saturday, on the 397 00:22:24,406 --> 00:22:26,646 Speaker 1: weekend or something like that. So it's a whole like 398 00:22:26,686 --> 00:22:29,886 Speaker 1: a flower tortilla. She'll put either chicken or beef whatever, 399 00:22:30,286 --> 00:22:32,166 Speaker 1: you know, we'll kind of meat me one inside. They 400 00:22:32,286 --> 00:22:35,726 Speaker 1: she'll put ricing beans inside. Then she'll fold it up. 401 00:22:35,926 --> 00:22:37,926 Speaker 1: She obviously put cheese in there like the case so 402 00:22:38,086 --> 00:22:41,166 Speaker 1: like the blanco and all that, and so we'll put 403 00:22:41,166 --> 00:22:42,806 Speaker 1: that all in a tortilla and it's like a big 404 00:22:42,846 --> 00:22:45,846 Speaker 1: old burrito. It's probably like one pound or two pound burrito. 405 00:22:46,246 --> 00:22:48,926 Speaker 1: And they she'll put more like uh, rice and beans 406 00:22:48,926 --> 00:22:51,366 Speaker 1: and it's like homemade rice, homemade rice and you know, 407 00:22:52,006 --> 00:22:54,646 Speaker 1: homemade beans. So we call it the ford you know, 408 00:22:54,726 --> 00:22:57,446 Speaker 1: the brown brown beans stuff like that. So we'll make 409 00:22:57,486 --> 00:23:00,846 Speaker 1: for holdas and put that all over the top. It's like, 410 00:23:00,926 --> 00:23:02,646 Speaker 1: so the wet burrito comes from like you know, the 411 00:23:02,726 --> 00:23:05,166 Speaker 1: ricing beans being on top, then the case, than the 412 00:23:05,206 --> 00:23:08,086 Speaker 1: sauce of the mguauc and the cilantro. So it's just 413 00:23:08,126 --> 00:23:10,606 Speaker 1: a lot of life. There's a there's a lot going on. 414 00:23:10,646 --> 00:23:12,806 Speaker 1: And I said, if you get one, if you if 415 00:23:12,806 --> 00:23:15,286 Speaker 1: you're able to finish one, you're doing something right. But 416 00:23:15,326 --> 00:23:18,846 Speaker 1: if you get to you just you're different because I 417 00:23:18,926 --> 00:23:20,966 Speaker 1: used to be able to do too. And I'm telling 418 00:23:20,966 --> 00:23:26,606 Speaker 1: you it's like it's feelings. Um that seems excessive, but 419 00:23:26,726 --> 00:23:28,526 Speaker 1: I get it. Like when you go back home, all 420 00:23:28,566 --> 00:23:30,366 Speaker 1: you want is that comfort food, Like, give me the 421 00:23:30,406 --> 00:23:32,406 Speaker 1: one thing. I'm going home next week to see my parents, 422 00:23:32,566 --> 00:23:35,966 Speaker 1: and my mom's first question, well, what do you guys 423 00:23:35,966 --> 00:23:37,446 Speaker 1: want to eat? Now I have to defer and ask 424 00:23:37,446 --> 00:23:39,086 Speaker 1: my husband what he wants to because it's like a 425 00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:41,886 Speaker 1: they want to play Kate all of us. Um, But 426 00:23:41,926 --> 00:23:45,326 Speaker 1: there are these like very specific I'm my response to her, 427 00:23:45,406 --> 00:23:48,326 Speaker 1: you already know what the meal? Why do you ask 428 00:23:48,366 --> 00:23:51,086 Speaker 1: me every time you know I'm gonna wantch the same thing? Yeah, 429 00:23:51,126 --> 00:23:52,806 Speaker 1: every time I come home, She's like, you want the 430 00:23:52,846 --> 00:23:55,566 Speaker 1: wet rito? Oh I can't, I can't. I can't do 431 00:23:55,646 --> 00:23:58,846 Speaker 1: it this time, so she knows you knows lie. And 432 00:23:58,966 --> 00:24:00,846 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's just it means 433 00:24:00,886 --> 00:24:02,926 Speaker 1: a lot to go home and just be able to 434 00:24:03,006 --> 00:24:05,526 Speaker 1: joy some authentic Mexican fear because it's kind of hard 435 00:24:05,566 --> 00:24:07,846 Speaker 1: to find here in Detroit. Every now and then, everyone 436 00:24:09,046 --> 00:24:11,766 Speaker 1: but everyone's like, you try this spot, try this spot out. 437 00:24:11,806 --> 00:24:13,526 Speaker 1: So I'll try all these Mexican spots out. It's just 438 00:24:13,566 --> 00:24:17,566 Speaker 1: it's never the same as moms impossible, right, Well, well, 439 00:24:17,646 --> 00:24:21,606 Speaker 1: so exactly learned from my dad's grandma, Like she learned 440 00:24:21,606 --> 00:24:24,286 Speaker 1: from my dad's mom, So I love that had passed away, 441 00:24:24,326 --> 00:24:27,126 Speaker 1: so she she learned from her and then obviously his 442 00:24:27,246 --> 00:24:30,886 Speaker 1: sister also, So it's a lot of culture just being 443 00:24:30,886 --> 00:24:34,606 Speaker 1: brought down. Yeah. Yeah, and I know that for the 444 00:24:34,886 --> 00:24:40,366 Speaker 1: My Cause my Cleats initiative, you honored your grandmother, and 445 00:24:40,406 --> 00:24:43,366 Speaker 1: I know that was pretty special for you. Yeah, it 446 00:24:43,486 --> 00:24:46,366 Speaker 1: was special. I mean it's I still member like it 447 00:24:46,406 --> 00:24:48,166 Speaker 1: was yesterday when I got drafted. I was at her 448 00:24:48,206 --> 00:24:51,046 Speaker 1: funeral and uh so all those things where I wanted 449 00:24:51,046 --> 00:24:53,726 Speaker 1: to honor her, and her favorite color was blue. She 450 00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:57,926 Speaker 1: was to wear this Honolulu blue uh skirt when we 451 00:24:57,966 --> 00:25:00,726 Speaker 1: go out as a family, so for her for me 452 00:25:00,846 --> 00:25:03,086 Speaker 1: to kind of just represent her and that in that 453 00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:05,606 Speaker 1: way and that cause it meant a lot. And at 454 00:25:05,606 --> 00:25:07,486 Speaker 1: the end, I kept my cleeds and I ended up 455 00:25:07,526 --> 00:25:11,086 Speaker 1: giving to my dad and one to his sister because 456 00:25:11,126 --> 00:25:12,606 Speaker 1: as a mother. So it was one of those things 457 00:25:12,606 --> 00:25:14,726 Speaker 1: where I always grew up with my grandma, Like we 458 00:25:14,806 --> 00:25:16,366 Speaker 1: used to go stay tonight there all the time. Like 459 00:25:16,366 --> 00:25:18,886 Speaker 1: I said, I learned a lot from her and uh 460 00:25:19,166 --> 00:25:21,286 Speaker 1: and I just meenedring love her every day. But I 461 00:25:21,406 --> 00:25:23,366 Speaker 1: know she's doing good up there. Oh man, I have 462 00:25:23,526 --> 00:25:25,846 Speaker 1: chills just listening to that. We were talking about this 463 00:25:25,926 --> 00:25:29,486 Speaker 1: the other day because a boyda's right, grandma's especially in 464 00:25:29,606 --> 00:25:32,806 Speaker 1: like Hispanic household play such a huge part in the 465 00:25:33,006 --> 00:25:36,446 Speaker 1: village that raises you. Like we didn't really have babysitters. 466 00:25:36,486 --> 00:25:40,086 Speaker 1: It was my grandma's who were raising her. So when 467 00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:42,526 Speaker 1: each of them passed, it was it's a shift in 468 00:25:42,606 --> 00:25:44,846 Speaker 1: your life, right, It's like a parent. It really is 469 00:25:45,006 --> 00:25:47,006 Speaker 1: like a parent. What a beautiful way to honor her. 470 00:25:47,046 --> 00:25:52,006 Speaker 1: What was her name, land Yolanda Martinez? Oh beautiful. I 471 00:25:52,126 --> 00:25:54,406 Speaker 1: love that just and the fact that you got drafted 472 00:25:54,446 --> 00:25:59,326 Speaker 1: to a team that wears blue jerseys, and I mean yeah, 473 00:25:59,846 --> 00:26:05,246 Speaker 1: just above works mysterious ways. So yeah, no coincidences. Yeah, 474 00:26:05,246 --> 00:26:10,206 Speaker 1: I know she's watching over me, watching every game I play. Well, 475 00:26:10,206 --> 00:26:12,566 Speaker 1: I know she would be extremely proud of you. Like 476 00:26:12,686 --> 00:26:15,966 Speaker 1: I said, we're proud of you and will you accomplished 477 00:26:16,006 --> 00:26:18,206 Speaker 1: and what you've done. And we're getting to know you 478 00:26:18,366 --> 00:26:21,766 Speaker 1: here right on the l Huddle podcast. So I want 479 00:26:22,246 --> 00:26:25,046 Speaker 1: to set this up so MJ and I could ask 480 00:26:25,086 --> 00:26:28,086 Speaker 1: you some questions so we get a chance to know you. Okay, 481 00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:31,726 Speaker 1: so we know that your name, your nickname is Rodrigo, right, 482 00:26:31,766 --> 00:26:35,526 Speaker 1: so maybe we do a rodri no or a Rodrigue go. 483 00:26:36,366 --> 00:26:39,206 Speaker 1: So we'll ask you something and you say go or 484 00:26:39,326 --> 00:26:46,006 Speaker 1: no Rodrigo or Rodrigue no? Are you okay? Okay, all right, MJ. 485 00:26:46,286 --> 00:26:49,126 Speaker 1: I just should I start doing right now that we 486 00:26:49,286 --> 00:26:53,886 Speaker 1: know he really likes the wet burrito? So, uh, Rodrigo 487 00:26:54,246 --> 00:27:07,886 Speaker 1: or rodri No fries in a burrito go? Yes? Right answer? Yes, yes, Hey, 488 00:27:09,126 --> 00:27:12,806 Speaker 1: it's different. It does. It does, and they got to 489 00:27:12,806 --> 00:27:15,006 Speaker 1: be crispy because if they're too saggy, then it doesn't. 490 00:27:17,286 --> 00:27:20,166 Speaker 1: Everyone's the whole. He is a soft one. You got 491 00:27:22,046 --> 00:27:23,926 Speaker 1: the textures have to line up. See, this is what 492 00:27:24,046 --> 00:27:26,806 Speaker 1: he's clearly a subject matter expert when it comes to burritos, 493 00:27:26,846 --> 00:27:28,446 Speaker 1: and I love that for us. So we touched a 494 00:27:28,486 --> 00:27:34,726 Speaker 1: little bit on your Marvel fandom. Rodrigo or Rodrick No 495 00:27:35,686 --> 00:27:44,486 Speaker 1: iron Man is better than Captain America? Go wow, okay, 496 00:27:44,886 --> 00:27:50,446 Speaker 1: is it the billionaire thing? Or ye know, he's like 497 00:27:50,566 --> 00:27:53,686 Speaker 1: a dry sarcast. Love the humor attitude to him, and 498 00:27:54,286 --> 00:27:56,486 Speaker 1: my mom loves him. And when he died in that 499 00:27:56,926 --> 00:27:59,126 Speaker 1: in the end game, I was like, that's gonna suck. 500 00:27:59,486 --> 00:28:01,686 Speaker 1: We'll put a spoiler alert for the three people who 501 00:28:01,766 --> 00:28:04,366 Speaker 1: still have not seen and game, because you know how 502 00:28:04,366 --> 00:28:11,566 Speaker 1: people get. I'm about all right. So, Rodrigo or Rodrie 503 00:28:11,766 --> 00:28:15,046 Speaker 1: no here would you go to a heavy metal concert 504 00:28:15,126 --> 00:28:23,526 Speaker 1: with Dan Campbell? He can? I wear earplugs right right right? Yeah? 505 00:28:24,246 --> 00:28:28,366 Speaker 1: I would go Jach, that doesn't sell you, not sing me? 506 00:28:29,446 --> 00:28:30,926 Speaker 1: He would do it for Coach. We don't know that 507 00:28:31,006 --> 00:28:35,406 Speaker 1: he even likes heavy metal. Listen, listen, be around the 508 00:28:35,486 --> 00:28:40,526 Speaker 1: guy for a whole year. No you you he does? 509 00:28:41,206 --> 00:28:46,806 Speaker 1: I listen Nirvana and Metallica. Okay, after your death listen. 510 00:28:46,926 --> 00:28:50,246 Speaker 1: My parents grew me like on a lot of ethnicity 511 00:28:50,486 --> 00:28:55,766 Speaker 1: with music, so we have a diverse collet Okay, in 512 00:28:55,846 --> 00:28:59,726 Speaker 1: our musical collection. I love that, um, while we're on 513 00:28:59,806 --> 00:29:05,246 Speaker 1: the same same wavelength here Rodrigo or Rodrie. No, Aidan 514 00:29:05,366 --> 00:29:09,886 Speaker 1: Hutchinson is a better dancer than you. No, that was 515 00:29:10,086 --> 00:29:14,406 Speaker 1: immediately he could keep the singing. I got the dancing. Hey, 516 00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:20,606 Speaker 1: there we go, there we go. Now listen. How how 517 00:29:21,166 --> 00:29:25,286 Speaker 1: much crap did you get from people from your dancing? 518 00:29:25,966 --> 00:29:29,846 Speaker 1: Or did he get more because of his Billy Jean routine? Right, 519 00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:32,606 Speaker 1: I don't know if I got any crapping, Like, okay, 520 00:29:32,686 --> 00:29:34,886 Speaker 1: I see that your little salsa a little like he 521 00:29:35,006 --> 00:29:37,766 Speaker 1: got defeat movement. And what people were like, we're confused 522 00:29:37,766 --> 00:29:39,446 Speaker 1: about when I was up there, like you couldn't see 523 00:29:39,486 --> 00:29:41,606 Speaker 1: from behind what my feet were doing, and like I 524 00:29:41,726 --> 00:29:43,446 Speaker 1: was doing a whole like routine I did when I 525 00:29:43,526 --> 00:29:45,686 Speaker 1: was younger, like dancing in the backyard with my grandma 526 00:29:45,726 --> 00:29:47,846 Speaker 1: and like you know that whole family. So we used 527 00:29:47,846 --> 00:29:51,046 Speaker 1: to do kumbia dancing all the time in the backyard 528 00:29:51,086 --> 00:29:56,086 Speaker 1: and the patio. Oh that's cool because one of the 529 00:29:56,326 --> 00:30:00,686 Speaker 1: few genres of dance that I have not experienced its scumbia. 530 00:30:01,486 --> 00:30:03,126 Speaker 1: I got to all day. It's like dancing with the 531 00:30:03,126 --> 00:30:04,646 Speaker 1: stars when we're at my parents, but at might be 532 00:30:04,846 --> 00:30:07,246 Speaker 1: his house like, but Kumbia is something that I haven't 533 00:30:07,286 --> 00:30:11,846 Speaker 1: really done before. So we'll swap and we got this. 534 00:30:11,966 --> 00:30:16,206 Speaker 1: Then we're like multicasset. I love it. That's so cool. 535 00:30:16,326 --> 00:30:18,606 Speaker 1: I feel bad because I don't know how to do 536 00:30:18,806 --> 00:30:21,526 Speaker 1: either of them, particularly stop it will, Yes, you do know, 537 00:30:22,726 --> 00:30:25,526 Speaker 1: I don't. I do have. I do have the rhythm 538 00:30:25,686 --> 00:30:29,286 Speaker 1: I know for a fact, yes, but I don't know 539 00:30:29,446 --> 00:30:31,766 Speaker 1: those so I need to get on those. Um, let's 540 00:30:31,806 --> 00:30:36,326 Speaker 1: go back to the burrito again, because a person's preference 541 00:30:36,366 --> 00:30:38,726 Speaker 1: in burrito says a lot about them in my opinion, 542 00:30:38,846 --> 00:30:43,926 Speaker 1: so very Rodri so Rodrick exactly and Rodrigo or Rodri 543 00:30:44,286 --> 00:30:51,006 Speaker 1: No corn in a burrito. Mmmm, that's a tough one. 544 00:30:51,206 --> 00:30:54,286 Speaker 1: I usually put corn on the outside of burrito because 545 00:30:54,326 --> 00:30:59,966 Speaker 1: it's already still stuffed with the beans. But I do 546 00:31:01,966 --> 00:31:05,366 Speaker 1: that was my next that was gonna be loa. We 547 00:31:05,486 --> 00:31:07,406 Speaker 1: do corn on the outside on the cop and we 548 00:31:07,526 --> 00:31:09,526 Speaker 1: put all the fixings on that, So I'd rather have 549 00:31:09,886 --> 00:31:14,246 Speaker 1: on the outside. So no, my dream, No, I agree 550 00:31:14,286 --> 00:31:16,566 Speaker 1: with that. I recently went to Austin, Texas, and I 551 00:31:16,646 --> 00:31:20,206 Speaker 1: went to this amazing taco place and it had a 552 00:31:20,446 --> 00:31:23,486 Speaker 1: lote corn bit like instead of like Caso. It was 553 00:31:23,526 --> 00:31:27,006 Speaker 1: like with Chips, I can I can say so right now, 554 00:31:27,206 --> 00:31:31,526 Speaker 1: I would bathe in it. It's so good, so good, 555 00:31:32,446 --> 00:31:34,086 Speaker 1: and you don't get it all on your tea trying 556 00:31:34,086 --> 00:31:36,086 Speaker 1: to you know, beat it off the cob and all that. 557 00:31:36,846 --> 00:31:41,726 Speaker 1: I've seen that here lately. Christ Icily. Oh man, now 558 00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:46,726 Speaker 1: I'm getting like, yeah, I know, I'm totally starving right now. Again, 559 00:31:46,766 --> 00:31:50,246 Speaker 1: as we're getting to know you, um, we understand also 560 00:31:50,326 --> 00:31:54,126 Speaker 1: too that you're a big time gamer. Um what what 561 00:31:54,406 --> 00:31:57,166 Speaker 1: is What is your your game of choice that you 562 00:31:57,326 --> 00:32:00,846 Speaker 1: like to play and on the team, are you one 563 00:32:00,886 --> 00:32:04,966 Speaker 1: of the best ones? So my game of choice is 564 00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:09,606 Speaker 1: the Call of Duty game and thank top five. I 565 00:32:09,646 --> 00:32:13,166 Speaker 1: would say top five on the team because I'd say 566 00:32:13,246 --> 00:32:16,566 Speaker 1: that because I know Saint Brown is a big gamer 567 00:32:16,846 --> 00:32:20,206 Speaker 1: Jamar Jefferson, So those guys are like that. So it's 568 00:32:20,206 --> 00:32:21,326 Speaker 1: one of those things. I was like, you know what, 569 00:32:21,406 --> 00:32:23,526 Speaker 1: I put top five. And so I played with one 570 00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:25,686 Speaker 1: of my teammates and anything. I was that good and 571 00:32:25,806 --> 00:32:27,606 Speaker 1: I was just beating the whole game. He's like, okay, 572 00:32:27,606 --> 00:32:31,006 Speaker 1: you got a little something to you. I was playing 573 00:32:31,046 --> 00:32:33,446 Speaker 1: with Eleene mcnill and I was like, yeah, I said, 574 00:32:33,486 --> 00:32:35,206 Speaker 1: I played a couple of games growing up when I 575 00:32:35,286 --> 00:32:38,206 Speaker 1: was younger. What is your gaming console of choice? This 576 00:32:38,366 --> 00:32:43,246 Speaker 1: is not sponsored, by the way everybody listening, Yeah, clarity 577 00:32:43,326 --> 00:32:47,886 Speaker 1: the P five? Okay five? So I used to be 578 00:32:48,166 --> 00:32:50,486 Speaker 1: Xbox grown up. And then we went to the FSA 579 00:32:50,526 --> 00:32:52,926 Speaker 1: Bowl for os U my last year and they gave 580 00:32:53,006 --> 00:32:54,246 Speaker 1: us PS five. So I was like, you know what, 581 00:32:54,446 --> 00:32:58,526 Speaker 1: it's a free PS five as well? I know all 582 00:32:58,566 --> 00:33:00,726 Speaker 1: the big I know all the big like twitch guys 583 00:33:00,766 --> 00:33:02,806 Speaker 1: and everyone plays like off PS five and all that. 584 00:33:03,366 --> 00:33:05,926 Speaker 1: This is such an area that I I know nothing of. 585 00:33:06,126 --> 00:33:10,286 Speaker 1: But did you play the Last of Us? Isn't that 586 00:33:10,366 --> 00:33:14,966 Speaker 1: a did you watch the show? Okay? Highly recommend if 587 00:33:15,006 --> 00:33:16,846 Speaker 1: you need something else to bench after you finish your 588 00:33:16,886 --> 00:33:20,606 Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven Marvel movies? Okay, ten out of ten, 589 00:33:21,886 --> 00:33:23,846 Speaker 1: see if I can. I'll see if I can squeeze 590 00:33:23,886 --> 00:33:26,326 Speaker 1: it in there. They're only nine episodes. I feel like 591 00:33:26,446 --> 00:33:33,446 Speaker 1: you could handle it compared to Marvel. Right, all right, 592 00:33:33,526 --> 00:33:37,366 Speaker 1: well how about this? So, so Adri go or Adri No, 593 00:33:38,446 --> 00:33:42,166 Speaker 1: the Lions should draft a quarterback in the first round. 594 00:33:42,766 --> 00:33:46,486 Speaker 1: That's a tough quarterback. We know, damn well, I know, 595 00:33:46,726 --> 00:33:49,446 Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, you know, makes you lull them 596 00:33:49,526 --> 00:33:53,486 Speaker 1: with the burrito, talk and eat and then go out blood. 597 00:33:55,006 --> 00:33:57,406 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not the general manager, so is 598 00:33:57,446 --> 00:34:00,406 Speaker 1: there like an in point yet? No, Like, hey, I'm 599 00:34:00,406 --> 00:34:03,686 Speaker 1: not the one throwing the money out there, right right 600 00:34:04,246 --> 00:34:06,726 Speaker 1: smart with that, although like Brad Holmes, we had him 601 00:34:06,766 --> 00:34:10,886 Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football and he actually had this sweatshirt 602 00:34:11,006 --> 00:34:13,406 Speaker 1: up he saw this. Maybe you have one, but it 603 00:34:13,486 --> 00:34:18,606 Speaker 1: says revenge on it and and I don't know if 604 00:34:18,646 --> 00:34:20,606 Speaker 1: this is kind of like a state of mind for 605 00:34:20,766 --> 00:34:24,246 Speaker 1: you guys, because there's a lot of like chatterer that 606 00:34:24,646 --> 00:34:28,646 Speaker 1: the Lions are for real and they are going to 607 00:34:28,766 --> 00:34:32,446 Speaker 1: be tougher than what they were last year. What do 608 00:34:32,526 --> 00:34:36,286 Speaker 1: you think of these these newfound expectations. I think he's 609 00:34:36,286 --> 00:34:38,446 Speaker 1: just kind of nice, frankling a little of what we're 610 00:34:38,486 --> 00:34:40,566 Speaker 1: coming with next year. So he's just kind of just 611 00:34:40,646 --> 00:34:44,886 Speaker 1: wearing So it's definitely the right staff and the right 612 00:34:45,206 --> 00:34:47,886 Speaker 1: you know. Like I said, Dan Campbell, he's just down 613 00:34:47,926 --> 00:34:50,046 Speaker 1: to earth dude, and he's he's gritty. So that was 614 00:34:50,126 --> 00:34:52,766 Speaker 1: our motto next year, like very gritty, and you can 615 00:34:52,806 --> 00:34:54,446 Speaker 1: tell all year he was like that. So it's just 616 00:34:54,486 --> 00:34:56,766 Speaker 1: one of those things where this this type of culture 617 00:34:56,806 --> 00:34:58,606 Speaker 1: we're bringing around here. It's just a grit and the 618 00:34:59,766 --> 00:35:02,126 Speaker 1: tenacity we have with the guys and just the chemistry 619 00:35:02,166 --> 00:35:05,486 Speaker 1: everyone's you know, all buying in. I love that. I 620 00:35:05,566 --> 00:35:07,806 Speaker 1: think the culture shifts and I know you just got 621 00:35:08,006 --> 00:35:10,766 Speaker 1: to Detroit. Um is the biggest thing for us. Watching 622 00:35:10,886 --> 00:35:13,606 Speaker 1: from the outside, right, you can tell that it's just 623 00:35:14,126 --> 00:35:17,886 Speaker 1: different there. The tone is different, the mentality is different, Um, 624 00:35:17,966 --> 00:35:20,566 Speaker 1: and it's been It's been so fun to watch for us, 625 00:35:20,806 --> 00:35:23,486 Speaker 1: So please keep it coming because we love to see it. 626 00:35:23,566 --> 00:35:25,486 Speaker 1: I'm like, can we get like a part duh or 627 00:35:25,646 --> 00:35:29,326 Speaker 1: like a digital span a TikTok Um series on on 628 00:35:29,486 --> 00:35:33,166 Speaker 1: you guys in the season next year because I loved it. No, 629 00:35:33,326 --> 00:35:35,686 Speaker 1: the TikTok that they're starting to pick up on it 630 00:35:35,766 --> 00:35:38,166 Speaker 1: now and that tiktoks are coming and you know everyone's 631 00:35:38,286 --> 00:35:40,926 Speaker 1: still the hard knocks out the lot. So it was 632 00:35:41,286 --> 00:35:43,766 Speaker 1: some of the things just kind of building, stacking stacking 633 00:35:43,926 --> 00:35:46,566 Speaker 1: each day. I have a love ha TikTok But if 634 00:35:46,646 --> 00:35:50,086 Speaker 1: you guys do it, I will watch. Yeah, well, what 635 00:35:50,446 --> 00:35:54,126 Speaker 1: are you going to be unveiling more more pregame fits 636 00:35:54,206 --> 00:35:57,166 Speaker 1: for everybody to watch. I mean, you had the hat, 637 00:35:57,686 --> 00:36:00,406 Speaker 1: you know, you had the whole like get up so 638 00:36:01,766 --> 00:36:05,406 Speaker 1: we have more of those in your future. Yeah. One 639 00:36:05,406 --> 00:36:07,126 Speaker 1: of those things where I've been talking to the family 640 00:36:07,166 --> 00:36:08,286 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I need more 641 00:36:08,326 --> 00:36:10,886 Speaker 1: cowboy things because I would switch it off between like 642 00:36:11,006 --> 00:36:13,606 Speaker 1: a suit or like kind of dress it up nice, 643 00:36:13,686 --> 00:36:15,806 Speaker 1: and I was like, the cowboy thing, it's just something 644 00:36:15,886 --> 00:36:18,526 Speaker 1: that's just natural for me. It's just right kind of 645 00:36:18,566 --> 00:36:21,086 Speaker 1: like it's comfortable. You know. The suit things are, you know, 646 00:36:21,286 --> 00:36:22,766 Speaker 1: a little tight and all that. I'm like, nah, I 647 00:36:22,846 --> 00:36:24,566 Speaker 1: can't do that. So I like the cowboy hat at 648 00:36:24,606 --> 00:36:26,886 Speaker 1: the suits. And so it's one of those things where 649 00:36:26,886 --> 00:36:28,166 Speaker 1: our next year I had to, you know, bring a 650 00:36:28,206 --> 00:36:31,166 Speaker 1: whole different kind of cowboy. You can definitely sort of 651 00:36:31,286 --> 00:36:33,766 Speaker 1: like fuse it right, cowboy chic. We can make it 652 00:36:33,846 --> 00:36:37,286 Speaker 1: a thing. And I see a lot of guys where 653 00:36:37,286 --> 00:36:38,846 Speaker 1: it Sabarros. I was like, I used to have a 654 00:36:38,926 --> 00:36:42,006 Speaker 1: sambarro when I was a little so sambarro with the 655 00:36:42,086 --> 00:36:46,406 Speaker 1: suit or something. I think everything's on the board, did it, Yeah, 656 00:36:46,446 --> 00:36:50,966 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, Yeah, I was like, why can't I you can? Yeah, yeah, 657 00:36:51,006 --> 00:36:53,766 Speaker 1: he's he's proud of his roots. Throw in U tap um, 658 00:36:54,126 --> 00:36:55,966 Speaker 1: you know, since we have you, and it's and it's 659 00:36:56,006 --> 00:36:58,926 Speaker 1: obviously topical and it's a new thing. Aaron Rodgers coming 660 00:36:58,966 --> 00:37:01,806 Speaker 1: out saying that he intends to play for the Jets. 661 00:37:01,926 --> 00:37:07,926 Speaker 1: You obviously faced him, uh twice this past season. What 662 00:37:08,086 --> 00:37:13,646 Speaker 1: do you make of him leaving the division? It's one 663 00:37:13,686 --> 00:37:15,286 Speaker 1: of those things that I never thought it would come. 664 00:37:15,446 --> 00:37:18,366 Speaker 1: You know, he's been in the division. Neither did we. Yeah, 665 00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:21,526 Speaker 1: it's been very processful in the division and in his career, 666 00:37:21,646 --> 00:37:23,526 Speaker 1: So for him to leave, it's going to be kind 667 00:37:23,566 --> 00:37:26,046 Speaker 1: of a shock around the world for everybody. What's the 668 00:37:26,126 --> 00:37:28,326 Speaker 1: light going up against him? Though, because I think, you know, 669 00:37:28,406 --> 00:37:31,206 Speaker 1: we get lost sometimes in all the all the headlines 670 00:37:31,286 --> 00:37:33,526 Speaker 1: and the drama, but let's not forget what he's brought 671 00:37:33,566 --> 00:37:35,886 Speaker 1: to the field. And for you to play him at 672 00:37:35,966 --> 00:37:39,366 Speaker 1: Lambo too, I mean that was significant, a game that 673 00:37:39,606 --> 00:37:42,486 Speaker 1: ended the season for him. Yeah, exactly. It's one of 674 00:37:42,486 --> 00:37:46,726 Speaker 1: those things where he's very competitive, competitive guy. He you know, he, 675 00:37:47,206 --> 00:37:49,006 Speaker 1: like I said, his career has gone the way it 676 00:37:49,126 --> 00:37:51,886 Speaker 1: is because just how competitive he is. So it's one 677 00:37:51,926 --> 00:37:53,326 Speaker 1: of those things that if you don't bring your a game, 678 00:37:53,366 --> 00:37:56,206 Speaker 1: he's gonna take you apart, or just pick the defense apart. 679 00:37:56,246 --> 00:37:58,446 Speaker 1: So he's been in the league for a long time, 680 00:37:58,566 --> 00:38:02,046 Speaker 1: and he's able to read defenses and get the offense 681 00:38:02,086 --> 00:38:05,086 Speaker 1: for the need to go. But any trash talks say 682 00:38:05,806 --> 00:38:10,366 Speaker 1: that you did it. Yeah yeah, I was like, dang, 683 00:38:10,526 --> 00:38:12,966 Speaker 1: Like I went to like two and August Rogers first year. 684 00:38:13,046 --> 00:38:17,646 Speaker 1: That's not bad, let's go correct. He would trash talk 685 00:38:17,726 --> 00:38:19,366 Speaker 1: like you know, when he'd be on the ground or 686 00:38:19,406 --> 00:38:20,966 Speaker 1: like we would like tackle him or something like that. 687 00:38:21,126 --> 00:38:23,726 Speaker 1: He you know, he trash talk and everything. But everyone 688 00:38:23,806 --> 00:38:25,686 Speaker 1: trash talks, so it's one. I was thinking this kind 689 00:38:25,726 --> 00:38:28,566 Speaker 1: of you know, never hearing it on TV, but interested 690 00:38:28,566 --> 00:38:31,846 Speaker 1: in person. It's kind of cool. Yeah, boy, But that 691 00:38:31,966 --> 00:38:37,606 Speaker 1: win in Lambeau bad good. It was that feel Yeah, 692 00:38:37,646 --> 00:38:40,766 Speaker 1: it felt good going on the bus home. Everyone's happy 693 00:38:40,806 --> 00:38:42,846 Speaker 1: and all that, you know. A little bum we didn't 694 00:38:42,846 --> 00:38:43,966 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but it was one of the things 695 00:38:43,966 --> 00:38:46,326 Speaker 1: where they didn't make the playoffs either, so there's a 696 00:38:46,366 --> 00:38:48,486 Speaker 1: lot of tension built up between that game and it's 697 00:38:48,606 --> 00:38:51,086 Speaker 1: very cold. I'll say that Lambeau is no joke. To 698 00:38:51,126 --> 00:38:53,806 Speaker 1: play in January. No, I'll go to a preseason game 699 00:38:53,926 --> 00:38:59,566 Speaker 1: early September. That's it. I'm out, Um Rodrigo, Malcolm Luci, 700 00:38:59,686 --> 00:39:03,406 Speaker 1: I don't know. So many different nicknames here. Um, Malcolm 701 00:39:03,526 --> 00:39:05,486 Speaker 1: is my favorite because that's the due we just got 702 00:39:05,566 --> 00:39:07,406 Speaker 1: to know. Thank you so much for coming on, Lhud. 703 00:39:07,566 --> 00:39:23,846 Speaker 1: We appreciate you sharing. For sure, off season, we don't 704 00:39:23,886 --> 00:39:28,326 Speaker 1: know her, but we're here. It is technically titled, is that? Um? 705 00:39:28,886 --> 00:39:32,406 Speaker 1: But these off season moves have already been crazy, not 706 00:39:32,566 --> 00:39:35,206 Speaker 1: just through free agency, but just people shuffling around a 707 00:39:35,246 --> 00:39:38,606 Speaker 1: couple of trade so there's been quite a few memorable 708 00:39:38,686 --> 00:39:41,206 Speaker 1: ones so far, some that are still pending. I'm going 709 00:39:41,286 --> 00:39:46,166 Speaker 1: to immediately eliminate Aaron Rodgers out of this situation, out 710 00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:50,206 Speaker 1: of our list, and let's go with three moves, trade signings, 711 00:39:50,286 --> 00:39:54,286 Speaker 1: whatever that you think will have the most impact the 712 00:39:54,406 --> 00:39:58,006 Speaker 1: coming season. Well, what's the top one in your mind? Well? 713 00:39:58,046 --> 00:39:59,486 Speaker 1: Are we just going to go back and forth? She 714 00:39:59,486 --> 00:40:01,726 Speaker 1: would do it that way. We can pink pop, all right. Um. 715 00:40:02,046 --> 00:40:05,286 Speaker 1: So the first one for me is to find Gilmore 716 00:40:05,526 --> 00:40:10,326 Speaker 1: going from the cults too. If you're dan Quinn, you 717 00:40:10,406 --> 00:40:14,886 Speaker 1: are licking your child because now you have Trayvon Diggs 718 00:40:15,246 --> 00:40:18,926 Speaker 1: and Gilmore, you can see a lot more man coverage. 719 00:40:19,366 --> 00:40:22,126 Speaker 1: Gilmore had a nice bounce back season, so he still 720 00:40:22,246 --> 00:40:25,766 Speaker 1: has some juice left in him. I think that now 721 00:40:26,006 --> 00:40:29,446 Speaker 1: Diggs doesn't have to always go up against the number 722 00:40:29,486 --> 00:40:32,566 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. So I think this is going to 723 00:40:32,686 --> 00:40:37,966 Speaker 1: be a great impactful move for that defense in Dallas. 724 00:40:38,366 --> 00:40:41,566 Speaker 1: J Okay, I'm gonna say one. And I know that 725 00:40:41,886 --> 00:40:44,886 Speaker 1: this fan base still some definitely know how they feel 726 00:40:44,926 --> 00:40:46,886 Speaker 1: about it and they're not happy, and other folks just 727 00:40:47,126 --> 00:40:50,446 Speaker 1: don't know how to feel about it. But I think 728 00:40:50,726 --> 00:40:55,246 Speaker 1: that James Richard Garoppolo in Vegas is going to change 729 00:40:55,766 --> 00:41:01,486 Speaker 1: the dynamics of that team immediately for various reasons. Right one, 730 00:41:02,246 --> 00:41:06,566 Speaker 1: the familiarity with Josh McDaniel's right, which was for coach, 731 00:41:07,206 --> 00:41:10,806 Speaker 1: I'm told one of the main reasons why they wanted 732 00:41:10,886 --> 00:41:13,206 Speaker 1: Jimmy right. It's important he wants a guy who he 733 00:41:13,286 --> 00:41:15,966 Speaker 1: can tell, Hey, this is the play we're running, Cool, 734 00:41:16,286 --> 00:41:20,406 Speaker 1: execute it, let's go. But also I think the in 735 00:41:20,606 --> 00:41:23,966 Speaker 1: terms of the locker room, that's as close as you're 736 00:41:23,966 --> 00:41:26,406 Speaker 1: going to get to how Derek Carr felt there a 737 00:41:26,446 --> 00:41:29,926 Speaker 1: guy whose team first, a guy who puts himself above 738 00:41:30,006 --> 00:41:33,766 Speaker 1: anything else, Like I love that that dynamic and will 739 00:41:34,166 --> 00:41:37,366 Speaker 1: remain the same there because these are two of two 740 00:41:37,406 --> 00:41:39,046 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks in the league that I respect the 741 00:41:39,126 --> 00:41:42,286 Speaker 1: most as people, especially how they conduct themselves around their 742 00:41:42,286 --> 00:41:46,366 Speaker 1: teammates as well. But I think in terms of just 743 00:41:46,726 --> 00:41:49,766 Speaker 1: the culture, I hope that Raider Nation really embraces Jimmy. 744 00:41:50,846 --> 00:41:53,286 Speaker 1: Let's not forget that the man is a winner. He is. 745 00:41:53,806 --> 00:41:56,086 Speaker 1: It does. Look at the record for everything else that 746 00:41:56,166 --> 00:41:58,806 Speaker 1: you may feel. Right now, tell me how you feel 747 00:41:58,846 --> 00:42:01,406 Speaker 1: when y'all start winning some games. All right, it's gonna 748 00:42:01,446 --> 00:42:04,286 Speaker 1: be fine. It's gonna be fine. No one panic, throw 749 00:42:04,366 --> 00:42:06,486 Speaker 1: the jersey out the door. Relax. I think this is 750 00:42:06,526 --> 00:42:09,006 Speaker 1: gonna be good. Yeah, as long as he's healthy. The 751 00:42:09,446 --> 00:42:13,846 Speaker 1: Las Vegas chapter of the Patriots Alumni Association while giving 752 00:42:13,846 --> 00:42:20,846 Speaker 1: another member right meetings every Wednesday. Okay, bye, okay, So 753 00:42:21,046 --> 00:42:25,646 Speaker 1: I am going to go with Javon Hargrave. Oh. I 754 00:42:25,846 --> 00:42:29,606 Speaker 1: think for the forty nine ers, this was an incredible move. 755 00:42:30,246 --> 00:42:34,326 Speaker 1: He had eleven sacks last season. You couple that with 756 00:42:34,486 --> 00:42:38,126 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, who had eighteen and a half sacks inside. 757 00:42:38,446 --> 00:42:42,646 Speaker 1: He reeks havoc outside. Bosa is going to feast, so 758 00:42:43,166 --> 00:42:48,646 Speaker 1: is Eric Armstead. And it also weekends an NFC opponent 759 00:42:49,206 --> 00:42:52,166 Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers, an opponent that would appear 760 00:42:52,246 --> 00:42:55,606 Speaker 1: to be an obstacle for them on their way to 761 00:42:56,206 --> 00:43:00,046 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl trip and when he wasn't on the 762 00:43:00,206 --> 00:43:03,646 Speaker 1: field and made a big difference on that Eagles defense. 763 00:43:03,766 --> 00:43:08,046 Speaker 1: When he was on there, he was all everything, highly disruptive. 764 00:43:08,206 --> 00:43:11,806 Speaker 1: So I think this d line for the forty nine 765 00:43:11,886 --> 00:43:16,166 Speaker 1: ers just got scarier. So if you're Matthew Stafford whoever 766 00:43:16,286 --> 00:43:20,606 Speaker 1: the Cardinals throw out there while Kyler's getting a recovering 767 00:43:20,686 --> 00:43:25,246 Speaker 1: from his injury, good luck, because the forty nine Ers 768 00:43:25,326 --> 00:43:28,766 Speaker 1: defense is going to be for real. Yeah, all right, 769 00:43:28,846 --> 00:43:33,606 Speaker 1: one for me is so it's more so of a 770 00:43:33,766 --> 00:43:37,246 Speaker 1: team situation than like a specific signing because many things 771 00:43:37,286 --> 00:43:40,046 Speaker 1: have happened and it's with the Eagles. So I love 772 00:43:40,126 --> 00:43:43,006 Speaker 1: that they made sure that Kelsey was still there because 773 00:43:43,046 --> 00:43:47,326 Speaker 1: they're having the most important guy that holds it down 774 00:43:47,446 --> 00:43:51,726 Speaker 1: for your star quarterback. Good move, Howie. But that they 775 00:43:51,766 --> 00:43:54,406 Speaker 1: took a shot after they signed the deal because everything 776 00:43:54,486 --> 00:43:57,206 Speaker 1: else around them has moved around quite a bit. Miles 777 00:43:57,246 --> 00:44:00,606 Speaker 1: Sanders out of there, Slay out of there. I mean, 778 00:44:00,686 --> 00:44:03,086 Speaker 1: the list of free agents that they had. He's gonna 779 00:44:03,126 --> 00:44:05,926 Speaker 1: come back though, it looks like he's gonna come to help, 780 00:44:06,006 --> 00:44:09,086 Speaker 1: so and there was a lot going on so many 781 00:44:09,166 --> 00:44:11,566 Speaker 1: They did get Bradberry, which was huge, but there's so 782 00:44:11,846 --> 00:44:14,766 Speaker 1: much going on there, Like, I'm so curious to see 783 00:44:15,206 --> 00:44:18,646 Speaker 1: how that team looks once all the dust settles, once 784 00:44:18,686 --> 00:44:20,686 Speaker 1: all is said and done, once a draft is done, 785 00:44:21,406 --> 00:44:23,446 Speaker 1: and we're getting ready to start the year, because it's 786 00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:25,686 Speaker 1: been quite like a little bit of a shakeup, a 787 00:44:25,726 --> 00:44:28,326 Speaker 1: little bit of a shakeup over there. So keeping a 788 00:44:28,446 --> 00:44:33,006 Speaker 1: close eye on Philly. Yeah, eighteen free agents. I thought 789 00:44:33,006 --> 00:44:36,486 Speaker 1: it would seem even more than I remember. Yeah, so 790 00:44:36,726 --> 00:44:39,446 Speaker 1: so James Bradberry was somebody I was going to throw 791 00:44:39,486 --> 00:44:42,926 Speaker 1: out there, But for the sake of being different, I'm 792 00:44:43,006 --> 00:44:48,126 Speaker 1: going to say linebacker David Long going to the Dolphins 793 00:44:48,406 --> 00:44:50,886 Speaker 1: on a two year deal. He was with the Titans 794 00:44:50,926 --> 00:44:52,966 Speaker 1: and missed the last five games of the season, So 795 00:44:53,126 --> 00:44:57,286 Speaker 1: that's the reason why that contract wasn't too outrageous. He 796 00:44:57,526 --> 00:45:01,726 Speaker 1: is excellent when it comes to pass coverage and being 797 00:45:01,806 --> 00:45:07,846 Speaker 1: around the ball, being aggressive really really brought an identity 798 00:45:08,046 --> 00:45:12,726 Speaker 1: to that Titans defense. It's a more underrated but wow, 799 00:45:13,046 --> 00:45:15,726 Speaker 1: that was quite the move from the Dolphins, who we've 800 00:45:15,806 --> 00:45:18,766 Speaker 1: had a great offseason the past two off seasons for 801 00:45:18,926 --> 00:45:21,446 Speaker 1: the Dolphins really had said something. Now, I could have 802 00:45:21,526 --> 00:45:24,366 Speaker 1: gone with Jalen Ramsey, but that was too easy, So 803 00:45:24,446 --> 00:45:27,606 Speaker 1: I thought I'd go with somebody else who is not 804 00:45:27,766 --> 00:45:31,206 Speaker 1: as as Flashy's not the headline like Jalen Ramsey, but 805 00:45:31,326 --> 00:45:34,526 Speaker 1: he's the one making news too. And as you mentioned, 806 00:45:34,606 --> 00:45:37,526 Speaker 1: they end up signing both of their running backs on offense. 807 00:45:37,966 --> 00:45:41,126 Speaker 1: The defense is a lot tougher now with Vic Fangio 808 00:45:41,206 --> 00:45:44,446 Speaker 1: who's going to be overseeing it. So I really like 809 00:45:44,886 --> 00:45:48,086 Speaker 1: what they've done there. And then they signed Mike White 810 00:45:48,686 --> 00:45:51,526 Speaker 1: as the backup. Quite saw what he did in Yeah 811 00:45:51,646 --> 00:45:56,046 Speaker 1: White Lightnines, Florida. Yeah, yeah, so he's from down there, 812 00:45:56,086 --> 00:45:58,646 Speaker 1: So I thought like this has been a good off 813 00:45:58,726 --> 00:46:01,006 Speaker 1: season for the for the Dolphins. I would say, so 814 00:46:02,006 --> 00:46:04,006 Speaker 1: I am going low hanging fruit because my next guy 815 00:46:04,126 --> 00:46:06,886 Speaker 1: was Jaylen ram I'm not afraid to go the easy 816 00:46:07,006 --> 00:46:11,126 Speaker 1: route here. Unbelievable love this for us. I feel like 817 00:46:11,246 --> 00:46:14,966 Speaker 1: Angie's just out there, like, be aggressive, got to be aggressive, 818 00:46:15,126 --> 00:46:17,286 Speaker 1: keep going. Yeah, I love it. And to see the 819 00:46:18,086 --> 00:46:20,806 Speaker 1: all over social media yesterday to him and Xavien Howard 820 00:46:21,086 --> 00:46:25,326 Speaker 1: at the facility just taking it in, already leaning in 821 00:46:25,526 --> 00:46:28,086 Speaker 1: on the bond there. They went to the Maami Heat game, 822 00:46:28,126 --> 00:46:32,166 Speaker 1: they were courtside the Maybe Heat team already gave Ramsey Adjersey, 823 00:46:32,286 --> 00:46:34,806 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like he is living for 824 00:46:34,966 --> 00:46:38,846 Speaker 1: this as are we. Um. I felt like the defense 825 00:46:38,966 --> 00:46:40,926 Speaker 1: was an area where we needed to up our game. 826 00:46:40,966 --> 00:46:44,926 Speaker 1: I think, especially with him, an x iron sharpens iron 827 00:46:45,086 --> 00:46:48,086 Speaker 1: in this situation because Xavian was a man a few 828 00:46:48,166 --> 00:46:49,966 Speaker 1: years ago that led the league and picks, and then 829 00:46:50,086 --> 00:46:52,166 Speaker 1: last year we didn't really see much from him. But 830 00:46:52,246 --> 00:46:54,526 Speaker 1: I think now you can already see how excited he 831 00:46:54,726 --> 00:46:59,046 Speaker 1: is to have his counterpart there. Oh, I can't wait 832 00:46:59,166 --> 00:47:03,686 Speaker 1: for them to pick off Aaron Rodgers twice next year. Yeah. Yeah, 833 00:47:03,846 --> 00:47:08,046 Speaker 1: as my mom would say, necessit gritos. So they say 834 00:47:08,046 --> 00:47:10,926 Speaker 1: in Nicarago, right, that's a big thing they needed and 835 00:47:11,446 --> 00:47:14,606 Speaker 1: identity there. They know how tough the division is, right 836 00:47:14,846 --> 00:47:17,726 Speaker 1: like juds are trying to lock in it a big dude. 837 00:47:17,766 --> 00:47:20,966 Speaker 1: They've already made moves as well. The Alan Lazard is 838 00:47:21,006 --> 00:47:23,486 Speaker 1: heading over there. We already know what the Bills can bring. 839 00:47:23,566 --> 00:47:27,886 Speaker 1: You can never discount the Patriots or shouldn't overlook them 840 00:47:27,926 --> 00:47:31,326 Speaker 1: for sure. Um So, so this is exactly what needed 841 00:47:31,406 --> 00:47:35,646 Speaker 1: to happen to. The afcast is going to be fire, Yes, 842 00:47:35,766 --> 00:47:39,966 Speaker 1: it is for sure. This podcast has been on fire, 843 00:47:40,326 --> 00:47:43,406 Speaker 1: right that great guest, great discussion, and then now we 844 00:47:43,526 --> 00:47:48,286 Speaker 1: have to put our little bow on everything. The E punto, 845 00:47:49,246 --> 00:47:54,926 Speaker 1: So my epunto is Jalen Carter. And I'll tell you 846 00:47:55,126 --> 00:47:59,606 Speaker 1: why Georgia held their pro day. He was overweight and 847 00:47:59,726 --> 00:48:03,726 Speaker 1: could not finish drills. If you are a top prospect, 848 00:48:04,406 --> 00:48:07,326 Speaker 1: you need to show up and take these things seriously. 849 00:48:07,486 --> 00:48:11,806 Speaker 1: He's also dealing with that off field issue, which is awful, 850 00:48:12,046 --> 00:48:14,246 Speaker 1: and that's a whole other thing that I'm sure is 851 00:48:14,486 --> 00:48:18,966 Speaker 1: concerning to talent evaluators. Now the question becomes how far 852 00:48:19,286 --> 00:48:22,486 Speaker 1: is he going to fall? And we've had Ryan Leaf 853 00:48:23,206 --> 00:48:25,846 Speaker 1: on once a week for Good Morning Football, and some people, oh, 854 00:48:26,046 --> 00:48:27,726 Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf, what did he do? He was a buss 855 00:48:27,766 --> 00:48:29,846 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And Ryan fully admits that step. 856 00:48:30,086 --> 00:48:32,126 Speaker 1: But one of the things that he said is that 857 00:48:32,446 --> 00:48:37,366 Speaker 1: he realized that his ego kept him from preparing the 858 00:48:37,486 --> 00:48:40,126 Speaker 1: way that he should have. And I think for these 859 00:48:40,246 --> 00:48:43,646 Speaker 1: guys like Jalen Carter, who has so much talent, so 860 00:48:44,286 --> 00:48:48,246 Speaker 1: much to offer on the football field, to not be prepared, 861 00:48:48,526 --> 00:48:52,686 Speaker 1: not be ready, not good. I punto, you gotta be ready. 862 00:48:52,766 --> 00:48:55,686 Speaker 1: If you have an opportunity, show up and show out. 863 00:48:56,406 --> 00:48:58,766 Speaker 1: Don't take that route. That's not the way to go, 864 00:48:59,966 --> 00:49:03,246 Speaker 1: especially if there's controversy around you as well. Oh, very 865 00:49:03,326 --> 00:49:07,766 Speaker 1: good point, very good punto my friend. For me is 866 00:49:07,846 --> 00:49:12,766 Speaker 1: that the quote unquote off season, it is a marathon, 867 00:49:12,886 --> 00:49:15,206 Speaker 1: not a sprint. There's a lot happening all at once 868 00:49:15,326 --> 00:49:17,926 Speaker 1: in like big chunks, right, Like we have combined, we 869 00:49:18,006 --> 00:49:20,126 Speaker 1: have free agency, we have the draft. It all happens 870 00:49:20,726 --> 00:49:23,846 Speaker 1: kind of quickly and succinctly. But I think we all 871 00:49:23,926 --> 00:49:27,286 Speaker 1: need to remember that the season will be here before 872 00:49:27,366 --> 00:49:29,886 Speaker 1: we know it. But there's a lot of hurdles and 873 00:49:29,966 --> 00:49:31,606 Speaker 1: a lot of roads that we need to get through 874 00:49:31,646 --> 00:49:35,086 Speaker 1: that teams need to get through before everything is short up. 875 00:49:35,166 --> 00:49:38,046 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's a reminder to myself and 876 00:49:38,206 --> 00:49:40,486 Speaker 1: for very everybody out there. There's a reason we call 877 00:49:40,646 --> 00:49:45,446 Speaker 1: this week free agency frenzy, because it feels every bit frenzied. Right. 878 00:49:45,486 --> 00:49:48,806 Speaker 1: We're like, uh, this quarterback is going there, that's it. 879 00:49:48,886 --> 00:49:50,926 Speaker 1: They're going to the super Bowl, or we're gonna have 880 00:49:51,006 --> 00:49:52,566 Speaker 1: the first pig in the draft next year because we're 881 00:49:52,566 --> 00:49:56,006 Speaker 1: gonna be check. Everybody, take a breath, Let's do our 882 00:49:56,046 --> 00:50:00,966 Speaker 1: mindful meditation together a little ASMR. It's gonna be fine. Yes, 883 00:50:01,286 --> 00:50:05,886 Speaker 1: everything's gonna be great. Positive vibes only here on the 884 00:50:06,086 --> 00:50:08,686 Speaker 1: l Huddle Podcast. If you love us as much as 885 00:50:08,766 --> 00:50:12,926 Speaker 1: we love you, please UM share the podcast, rate it, 886 00:50:13,326 --> 00:50:16,606 Speaker 1: subscribe to it, um listen to it wherever you get 887 00:50:16,646 --> 00:50:19,886 Speaker 1: your podcasts. And we love doing this with you guys. 888 00:50:19,926 --> 00:50:23,646 Speaker 1: And we're just getting started here, So for will, this 889 00:50:23,846 --> 00:50:25,766 Speaker 1: is MJ. We'll be back. We got plenty more to 890 00:50:25,846 --> 00:50:29,126 Speaker 1: talk about. Trust me, the headlines will not stop. Well. 891 00:50:29,286 --> 00:50:48,926 Speaker 1: Love you, Love you, and Huddle is a production of 892 00:50:48,966 --> 00:50:53,326 Speaker 1: the NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 893 00:50:53,486 --> 00:50:57,206 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 894 00:50:57,246 --> 00:50:57,966 Speaker 1: your podcasts.