1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the DOJ, how important it is, and 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I know you know it's important. I'm not going to 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: sit here and insult your intelligence. But that's just let's 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: figure something out here. Why don't government people go to prison? 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Because that we have to have that. You know, I'm 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: hot on this. I always have been, I always will be. 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: The only way to structure a society is by taking 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: people who have power, government power and holding them the 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: most accountable, the deepest, darkest prisons, the worst possible punishment 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: in any society, should not be reserved for murderers. Yeah, 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm fine to do whatever you want with the murderers. 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: It should be for government people who take their power 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: and abuse the people with it. The crime is so 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: severe it can destroy nations. And now I bet nothing. 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: I just said, blew you away. You agree? You agree? 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: These government people have to go to prison. And I've 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: said many times before, and I mean this. You will 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: know our country is getting back on track when you 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: start seeing government people in a significant number going to prison. 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: When you have a corrupt, criminal, gangster government, the gangsters 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: in the government have to be sent to prison. I'm 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: not talking about one little patsy here a little slap 23 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: on the wrist. There go to prison. Okay, so we 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: all agree, I agree, you agree. Why has it happened? 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: That's the question. Why has it happened? Well, the answer 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: is actually quite simple. The DOJ the Department of Justice. 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: If we will do our little hypothetical one hundred person 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: village where we all live and it's one nation, it's 29 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: our tribe, and there's one hut where you have to report. 30 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: And when you report crimes to that hut, the people 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: who work in that hut, then they will decide whether 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: or not the crimes are prosecuted. Government crimes, regular crimes. 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: You go to the same hut every single time. Well, 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: if every time you bring a crime into that hut 35 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: that was committed by a government person, they just decide 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: not to prosecute it, what kind of tribe do you have? 37 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: How long is your tribe going to exist? That's exactly 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: where we are in the country. America's Department of Justice 39 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: exists and has existed under Democrat presidents and Republican presidents 40 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: as the protection agency for the criminals in the government. 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: That must change. We can't have any more talk of 42 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: whether it's not going to be a tit for tat. 43 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: We can't have any of that. That stuff has to 44 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: be set aside. The criminals in the government must go 45 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: to prison otherwise otherwise it gets dark here in the future. 46 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: And I know we're all decited. I'm excited too about 47 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's presidency. It can get really really dark, and 48 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: the parts of the world that are civilized, it's already 49 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: getting really really dark. In the UK, they're throwing people 50 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: in prison for social media posts. 51 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: The offensive incitement of racial hatered involves publishing or distributing 52 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: material which is insulting or abusive, which is intended or 53 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: likely to start racial hatered. So if you retweet that, 54 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: then you're republishing that, and then potentially you're committing that offense. 55 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: And we do have dedicated police officers who are scouring 56 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: social media. Their job is to look for this material 57 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: and then follow up with identification arrists and so forth. 58 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: So it's really really serious. 59 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: People might. 60 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Think they're not doing anything harmful, they are and the 61 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: consequences will be visited upon them. 62 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: That's not some third world dump, that's not something that 63 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: happened one hundred years ago. Right now, our ally, our 64 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: friend free England is falling already. You remember our neighbors 65 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: to the north. You remember what happened to Pastor Arthur. 66 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: The cops showed up in his church to get. 67 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: Him out, out out of this property. You Nazis out out. 68 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: Get stop is not allowed here. Immediately, gest stop is 69 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: not allowed. 70 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: Out. 71 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 6: You're not welcome here. Nazis are not welcome here. Guest 72 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 6: Stop is not welcome here. Do not come back, you 73 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 6: Nazi psychopaths. Unbelievable, sick, evil people, intimidating people in a 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 6: church during the passover. You'll get stop or Nazi car 75 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: is fascist. Don't you dare coming back? 76 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: Youre That's exactly what it is. And our DOJ here 77 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: has been just as bad, if not worse. Joe Biden 78 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: took over the presidency, put Merrick Garland in charge of 79 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: the DOJ, the attorney general in the country as the 80 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: top law enforcement officer in the nation, and the Democrats 81 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: took it over and promptly decided to paint Republicans as 82 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: white supremacists and then use the DOJ to attack them. 83 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 7: The FBI's view, the top domestic violent extremist threat comes 84 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 7: from racially or ethnically motivated violent extreamists, specifically those who 85 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 7: advocate it for the superiority of the white race. 86 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: And of course Christopher Ray, his little lap dog, was 87 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: more than happy to oblige in going after Trump's supporters. 88 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: In fact, it bragged about it. 89 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 8: Let me ask you about January sixth. Are you still 90 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 8: pursuing January sixth cases? 91 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 9: We have sort any number of January sixth cases underway. 92 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 8: Former President Trump has referred to those who have been 93 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 8: imprison or facing trial as hostages. Do you see those 94 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 8: individuals who took part in the January sixth riots as hostages? 95 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 9: I see the defendants in the January sixth cases as 96 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 9: criminal defendants who are being charged with federal crimes and 97 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 9: are in front of independent courts as part of our 98 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 9: legal system. 99 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and very independent courts trying all those poor SAPs 100 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: in the communist Washington d C. With communist judges, communists everything. 101 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: They're Yeah, very very independent. What's happened in this country 102 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: the last four years is not something we can forget 103 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: and forgive about just because Trump won the election and 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: things are about to change. No, no, no, no no no. 105 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: People must be held to account for the crimes that 106 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: were committed under the presidency of Joe Biden, politicians, thej people, 107 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: FBI people, bureaucrats. They must be held to account criminally. 108 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: And look so far, I'm encouraged by what I hear 109 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: from Cash Betel. 110 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 10: The FBI's footprint has gotten so frickin' big, And the 111 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 10: biggest problem the FBI has had has come out of 112 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 10: its intel shops. I'd break that component out of it. 113 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 10: I'd shut down the FBI Hoover Building on day one 114 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 10: and reopening the next day as a museum of the 115 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 10: deep state. And I'd take the seven thousand employees that 116 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 10: work in that building and send them across America to 117 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 10: chase down criminals. Go be cops, your cops. 118 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Will this happen, I don't know. Will Pambondi fix things 119 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: that the DOJ arrest government people, I don't know, but 120 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: it must happen. But we can't save ourselves. We got 121 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: to fix that DOJ hutt. All right, Well, a's Mike 122 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: Davis about this? Next I go. 123 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 11: I think they will rue the day that they put 124 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 11: Pambondi in as Attorney General and Cash Pttel as Director 125 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 11: of the FBI, they have essentially signaled the end of 126 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 11: independent federal law enforcement. Over the next four years that 127 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 11: may end up in the targeting of Democrats, targeting of 128 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 11: media that's friendly to Democrats. But once law enforcement is 129 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 11: an independent, it's hard to put that Jennie back in 130 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 11: the bottle. And so someday down the line that could 131 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 11: hurt Republicans. When there's a Democrat who decides to use 132 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 11: the federal law enforcement agencies to target Republicans, one of 133 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 11: us should want that. 134 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to make all the obvious jokes 135 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: and comments that's happening now and the hypocrisy. I'm not 136 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: going to do that. More than anything, I'm concerned about 137 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: the hair dye fellas, don't do it. Everyone can tell. 138 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't care how much you spent on it. Everyone 139 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: can tell, and it never looks right. Joining me now, 140 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: Mike Davis, founder of the Article three Project. Okay, Mike, 141 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: what is Pam BONDI Cash Patel? What are they going 142 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: to be able to do as far as holding government 143 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: people accountable? I'm only interested in that now, and anyone 144 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: want to hear about the cartels. I want to know 145 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: what government people are going to prison. 146 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 12: That's a very good question because we saw the Obama 147 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 12: justice departments, the Biden Justice Department and their intel agencies 148 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 12: politicized and weaponized against their political enemies. President Trump, his 149 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 12: top aids, his allies, his supporters, going all the way 150 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 12: back to Crossfire Hurricane, it continue with the unprecedented republic 151 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 12: ending lawfare and election interference for the last three years. 152 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 12: Four indictments, the civil fraud lawsuit for non fraud. They 153 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 12: tried to bankrupt Trump, they tried to take off his head. 154 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 12: They tried to throw them in prison for life. They 155 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 12: tried to throw them off the ballot. Pam Bondi and 156 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 12: Cash Battel are President Trump's all star picks for attorney 157 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 12: general and FBI director to go clean out that rat's 158 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 12: nest of the Obama and then Biden justice department. They're 159 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:39,359 Speaker 12: going to bring much needed transparency, accountability, and justice. 160 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I like the sounds of it. How much work 161 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: do they have to do? You know? Cash Btel takes 162 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: over as director the FBI is a very sharp individual, 163 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: big fan. I know the rod is deep, though. Pam Bondy, honestly, 164 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: the DOJ is probably where all of our problems lie. 165 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: That's been the wall protecting government people from going to prison. 166 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Is it possible that we're going to actually see that. 167 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: I know their intentions are good. I'm already on board. 168 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: What can they actually do? 169 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 12: They are one hundred percent going to go in and 170 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 12: clean out the rats nest of the Obama and then 171 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 12: Biden Justice Department. You're going to see actions on day one, 172 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 12: on January twentieth, and then when they get confirmed, when 173 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 12: Pam Bondi gets confirmed as Attorney General, when Todd Blanche 174 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 12: gets confirmed as the Deputy Attorney General, when Cash Bettel 175 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 12: gets confirmed as the FBI director, You're. 176 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: Going to see. You're going to see heads roll. 177 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 12: You're going to see these career officials in the senior 178 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 12: post at main Justice and at the FBI get reassigned. 179 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 12: They're going to lose their jobs. So they better get 180 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 12: used to changing diapers on the southern border because that's 181 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 12: what they're going to be doing until they get chased 182 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 12: out of the Justice Department, including the FBI. 183 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: Gosh, that's hilarious. That'd be wonderful to see. Okay, Merrick 184 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: Garland in particular, Mike, I know I don't have to 185 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: get you rolled up to go after Merrick Garland, but 186 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: he is. What he's done with his position as Attorney General. 187 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: It's criminal, It's egregious. What are the worst things in 188 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: your mind? He's done. 189 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 12: Merrick Garland has been a disgrace. And thank god my 190 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 12: former boss, Chuck Grassley on the Senate Judiciary Committee blocked 191 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 12: Merrit Garland's elevation to the Supreme Court and put my 192 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 12: other boss, Neil Gorsch on the Supreme Court because Merrick 193 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 12: Garland has been a disaster for our country when he 194 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 12: ran this unprecedented republic ending lawfare and election interference against 195 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 12: President Trump, his top aids like Steve Bannon and Peter 196 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 12: Davarro who went to prison for asserting constitutional executive privilege 197 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 12: going back to one hundred and fifty years to George Washington. 198 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 12: Merrick Garland's targeted Trump supporters on January sixth and politically 199 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 12: persecuted them, Yes, persecuted them, according to the Supreme Courts 200 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 12: Fisher decision. Last June, Merrick Garland sick the FBI. After 201 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 12: parents outraged by gender chaos and schools and the resulting 202 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 12: rapes and high school bathrooms, Merrick Garlands went after pro 203 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 12: life Christians, including and putting a seventy five year old 204 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 12: Christian in prison for praying at an abortion clinic while 205 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 12: Merrick Garland gave amnesty to blm Antifa Hamas, Joe Biden, 206 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 12: every scumbag Biden who was on what seems like every 207 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 12: corrupt or in payroll around the world. There must be 208 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 12: accounts ability for what Merrick Garlands and his team have done. 209 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 12: They have taken our country to the brink and there 210 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 12: has to be accountability. There has to be justice. 211 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi who is she? Most people are not familiar 212 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: with Pam Bondi. What's her background? 213 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 12: Pam Bondi is a fantastic choice by President Trump to 214 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 12: serve as the attorney general. She was the attorney general 215 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 12: for the state of Florida for eight years, which is 216 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 12: a big office. She does not need this job as 217 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 12: attorney general. She did not seek this job as attorney general. 218 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 12: President Trump recruited her for this job. She's bold, she's fearless, 219 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 12: she's smart, she's effective. She's the perfect choice by President 220 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 12: Trump to go clean out the rats nest of the 221 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 12: Obama and then Biden Justice Department. 222 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: DNI isn't part of the DOJ, but just like CIA, 223 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: it does work with the DOJ. That whole thing rhyme 224 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: did I didn't mean to do that tell me about 225 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: Tulca Gabbard. What's she going to to be able to do? 226 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 12: You know what's great about Tulci Gabbert is she is 227 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 12: a former Democrat who saw the light, who saw that 228 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 12: are intel agencies and law enforcement have been corrupted. They've 229 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 12: become partisan, They've been politicized and reaponized against political enemies. 230 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 12: Tulsi has a strong military background. She has insider experience 231 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 12: from her time working in the House of Representatives, but 232 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 12: she has an outsider attitude. She's the perfect choice to 233 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 12: go over to d and I and clean out that rats. 234 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: And that's just like the Justice Department. 235 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: What does DNI do, Mike, A lot of people just 236 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: aren't familiar with it. They know CIA, they know FBI, 237 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: but DNI is one of those things the normies goes 238 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: right by them. 239 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 12: Look, I think that I used to work for President 240 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 12: George W. Bush, but I think he made a big 241 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 12: mistake by creating DNI, the Director of National Intelligence, along 242 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 12: with DHS the Department of Homeland Security. 243 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 13: It's just more governments bureaucracy. 244 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 12: It's more deep state, which are these unelected, largely unaccountable 245 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 12: career bureaucrats who work in these intel agencies and in 246 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 12: federal law enforcements who think it's their job to make 247 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 12: these policy decisions instead of the duly elected president of 248 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 12: the United States. And D and I is just an 249 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 12: extra unnecessary layer that's supposed to coordinate the intel agencies, 250 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 12: and it just creates a morass with the Intel agencies, 251 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 12: a political dumpster fire called D and I. 252 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: Talk to me about these Matthew Graves types. What can 253 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: be done? What's realistic? I know Matthew Graves is resigning, 254 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: he's gone, but are they off scott free now? Matthew 255 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: Graves has done some really really evil things with his 256 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: position of power. What is legal? What can be done 257 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: to him? 258 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 12: It is a federal civil rights only a very serious 259 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 12: battle crime to politicize and weaponize intel agencies and law 260 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 12: enforcement against your political enemies for non crimes. 261 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: It's eighteen USC. 262 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 12: Section two forty one conspiracy against rights, a very serious 263 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 12: federal civil rights felony. And I would say to Jack 264 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 12: Smith and his deputy, Goon J. Bratt, and Matthew Graves, 265 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 12: the outgoing dc US attorney, and these January sixth prosecutors 266 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 12: and agents, and these people who ran this unprecedented republicanding 267 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 12: lawfare against President Trump, his top aids like Steve Bannon 268 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 12: and pier In Davarro, his supporters. On January sixth, parents 269 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 12: and Christians, I would say to these guys, lawyer up, 270 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 12: because nobody is above the law and you could be 271 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 12: on the receiving end of subpoenas when that Trump forty 272 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 12: seven Justice Department opens the federal criminal probe under eighteen USC. 273 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: Section to forty one. 274 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 12: And I hope that grand jury, that special grand jury 275 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 12: is in paneled down in Fort Pierce, Florida, the same 276 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 12: courthouse where Jack Smith and j Bratt tried to throw 277 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 12: President Trump in prison for the rest of his life 278 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 12: under the Espionage Act for presidential records, the former president 279 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 12: was allowed to have in the office a former president 280 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 12: under the Presidential Records Act. 281 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Finally, Supreme Court, what do we anticipate in for Donald 282 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Trump being able to do theirs? People retiring? 283 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 12: What are we looking at look President Trump's President Trump's 284 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 12: biggest and most consequential accomplishment of his first term was 285 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 12: the transformation of the left of center Court to the 286 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 12: Clarence Thomas Along with appointing a near record number of 287 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 12: lower federal court judges, we have the first constitutionalist majority 288 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 12: on the Supreme Court and the lower federal courts in 289 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 12: ninety years. And President Trump in his second term is 290 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 12: going to pick even more bold and fearless justices and 291 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 12: judges than he did the first time. 292 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: So it's going to be good. 293 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 12: We're going to restore the separation of powers among the 294 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 12: federal branches, and we're going to return federal power back 295 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 12: to the states and the people where it belongs. 296 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: Mike appreciated as always, my friend. All right, we'll be back. 297 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: All right. I know we're talking about the DOJ and 298 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: the FBI, and so obviously we're not going to bring 299 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: it up the CIA. I mean, surely they're not linked 300 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: up with the DOJ because that would be weird, right 301 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: if the Forward Intelligence Agency was linked up with the DOJ. Anyway, 302 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: let's talk to Kevin about that, joining me now. Kevin Ship, 303 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: author of a book that freaked me out, Twilight of 304 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: the Shadow Government. Okay, Kevin, DJ and CIA they don't 305 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: work together. 306 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, don't we wish. 307 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: I've just published a presentation on this. 308 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: The DOJ works closely with the CI, especially in silencing whistleblowers, 309 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: and in my particular case, the DOJ worked with the 310 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: CIA to black try to blackmail us into taking a 311 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 5: lower settlement agreement, and if we didn't, they would invoke 312 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 5: the state secrets privilege. So the CI works through the 313 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 5: DOJ to silence whistle blowers using the primarily the state 314 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 5: secrets privilege or threats of arrest which happened to Tucker 315 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 5: Carlson and others. So they work hand in hand. And sadly, 316 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 5: the DOJ FBI Finnsen office which is now demanding all 317 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 5: of our bank information has a CIA desk in it, 318 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 5: so they are connected at the hip. 319 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin, before we continue along those lines, what did 320 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: you do for the CIA staple papers or what? 321 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: I was a protective agent on the CI Director William 322 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: Casey's protected detail up through Iran Contra and eventually his death. 323 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 5: I was a team leader for protecting defectors that came 324 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 5: over to the agency. I was an assistant team leader 325 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 5: on an a counter assault team, they want me to 326 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 5: call it an anti terrorism assault team. We went over 327 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 5: to neutralize the terrorist group that had been killing Americans. 328 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 5: Was in the counter Espionage Unit, Special Investigations Unit searching 329 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: for a mole inside the CIA, which we did find 330 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: and burned out to be Robert Hanson, and I've had 331 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 5: several other positions of the counter Terrorism Center where I 332 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 5: was a special operations officer conducting human collection overseas, specifically 333 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 5: in terrorist areas. So I had several different positions during 334 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: my career there. 335 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Now back to what you were talking about, this protecting 336 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: of secrets. What is this a law because it doesn't 337 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: sound very freedom. 338 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: No, it is an absolute violation of the US Constitution. 339 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: George Tenant, the Director of the CIA, used the State 340 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 5: secrets privilege forty two times to silence cases against the CIA. 341 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: And the state secrets privilege which they used to work 342 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: with the DOJ was actually created. 343 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: From one that was used by the King of England. 344 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: The reasons that the founding fathers left because it is 345 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 5: such tyranny and absolute control over the legal system. And 346 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 5: that's what happens with the CIDJ connection. When they use 347 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: the state secrets privilege, they'd use that to seal the 348 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: evidence in the torture program. They use that to seal 349 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: the fact that they destroyed videotapes of the torture program, 350 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 5: which is more than waterboarding. They use the state secrets 351 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 5: privilege to shut down cases against NSA spying domestically in 352 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: the United States. 353 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: So this is a CIA DOJ. 354 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: Operation without question, and of course I've documented improven in 355 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: that many of my presentations. 356 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Okay, first, before we go on to New Orleans and 357 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: other things, I have to know you do all that 358 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: kind of hunting down terrorists abroad. What's the worst place 359 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: you've ever been. 360 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: The CIA? No, in terms of threats, in terms of 361 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 5: personal threats. I mean, that would certainly be the answer. 362 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 5: I have been in the Middle East amongst Palestinian terrorists. 363 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: I've been in Eastern Europe. I've been on the border 364 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: of the Soviet Union. I did a lot of work 365 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: during the Serbs purge of Bosnia and the genocide there, 366 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 5: So several different areas in the Middle East and in 367 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: Europe and Asia. 368 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's freaking cool. All right, back to New Orleans. 369 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump came out said publicly that the CIA has 370 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: to get involved. That raised a lot of eyebrows myself included, 371 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: how and why would the CIA get involved in something 372 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: like this? 373 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 5: That is an extremely good question and a very concerning issue. 374 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 5: A lot of things in the cyber truck bombing do 375 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: not add up at all. I mean, things don't add up. 376 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 5: There's usually a nefarious hand, but find it behind it. 377 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 5: I don't think President elect Trump understands what the CIA 378 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 5: is and what it does. I know that Bobby Kennedy Junior, 379 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 5: who's a friend of mine, does and we'll be communicating 380 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 5: that with Donald Trump as we work to reform the CIA. 381 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: But no, I think that is a big mistake, and 382 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 5: it is possible. There are so many peculiarities about the 383 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: cyber truck attack. It has some appearances of a psyop 384 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 5: because things just don't add up. 385 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: So I would say that that's concerning. 386 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Okay, expand on that cyber truck attack, because clearly you've 387 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: seen several things that don't seem like they're adding up. 388 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: Not asking you to have an opinion or point of finger, 389 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: but what is it adding up to you? 390 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: Well, you've got a top secret, sci cleared, extremely talented 391 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 5: soldier working at the highest levels in special operations. 392 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: A normal individual. 393 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 5: Duel a Trump supporter and it doesn't add up in 394 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 5: terms of the personal profile. Although he did suffer a 395 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 5: little bit of PTSD from some of his assignments, but 396 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 5: that's not uncommon. So for a Trump supporter to blow 397 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 5: himself up with that kind of background and spotless record 398 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 5: by all accounts, including the people that work with him, 399 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 5: to blow up of all things of cyber Trump right 400 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 5: in front of the Trump Hotel when he's a Trump supporter. 401 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 5: It's like the passport they found on the street after 402 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 5: the nine to eleven attacks that wasn't burned up when 403 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: the buildings came down of allegedly one of the terriffs. 404 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: When things don't add up, something is not right. 405 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Now, you've witnessed multiple CIA directors over 406 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: the year. I remember I watched some show I think 407 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: it was on Showtime about all the CIA directors, and 408 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: I watched all those crooks go through and talk about 409 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: all the terrorism. They talk about that. 410 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the CIO will make the point, as 411 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 5: they try to do with me, is well, if you 412 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 5: want to restructure the CIA, you're putting the America at. 413 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: Risk for terrorist attacks. 414 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 5: If you reform or restructure the CIA, Well, let's step 415 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: back for a minute and look at what the CI 416 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 5: actually has done. The CI created al Qaeda, trained them 417 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: how to blow things up, surveill and attack, trained Osama 418 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 5: bin Laden created al Qaeda. The CI created isis and 419 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 5: the CI created the Free Syrian. 420 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: Army, which just toppled the Syrian government. 421 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 5: All ruthless, bloody terrorist organizations that the CI uses to 422 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: accomplish its ultimate goal of the expansion of its power. 423 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Okay, the expansion of its power is going to ask 424 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: to what end? They're constantly their fingerprints seem to be 425 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: all over everything, training, arming people. We end up having 426 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: to go overseas in fight. So that's what it's all about, 427 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: is power. 428 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all about global power for the CIA. And 429 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 5: as Mike Pompeo and sadly they stained his career when 430 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 5: he was director of the CIA, He's the one that 431 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 5: commanded the assassination of Juliana Sange and it pretty much 432 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 5: ended his political career. But even Pompeoti junior that he 433 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 5: regretted not doing the reforms he wanted in the CIA, 434 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 5: and he said that what he found was twenty percent, 435 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: the upper twenty percent of the agency, which what I've 436 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 5: been saying all along, does not believe in democracy and 437 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: they do not believe in the US Constitution. They believe 438 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 5: in the global expansion of the CIA and American foreign 439 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 5: policy power. 440 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: Well, that was all pretty much horrific. All right, real quick, 441 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: what do you think about Ratcliffe? John Ratcliffe coming in 442 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: and take over the CIA? Are you hopeful skeptical? Where 443 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: you out on him? 444 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 5: I'm both hopeful and skeptical. I think Ratcliffe is an 445 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 5: excellent choice. He was the d and I Director of 446 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 5: National Intelligence I think for six months. He was a 447 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 5: very good conservative congressman I think for about five years. 448 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 5: And he was the only one that stood up in 449 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 5: defense as an intelligence official, stood up in defense of 450 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 5: President Trump during the Russia collusion hoax and said that 451 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 5: is not intelligence. They're lying, this is bogus. He was 452 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 5: the only one that did that. Those are great credentials. 453 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: But as former CI director James Woolsey said when he 454 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: came out after being CI director, he said that inside 455 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 5: the CIA, they didn't tell him anything. All of these 456 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 5: operations that the CIA does behind Congress's back, they don't 457 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: even tell the director of the CI many times, and 458 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 5: at that level, they don't even know what the director 459 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: of Operations or the National Clan Deskline Center is doing. 460 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, well that's horrific, Kevin, Thank you, my friend. 461 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: As always, all right, we'll be back. 462 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 14: What we do is we have if something has reported 463 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 14: to US as potentially misinformation important misinformation. We also have 464 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 14: this third party fact checking program because we don't want 465 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 14: to be deciding what's true and false. And for the 466 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 14: I think it was five or seven days when it 467 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 14: was basically being being determined whether it was false. The 468 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 14: distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still allowed 469 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 14: to share it, so you could still share it, you 470 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 14: could still consume it. We say the distribution has decreased, 471 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 14: It got shared basically the ranking and news feed was 472 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 14: a little bit less, so fewer people saw it than 473 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 14: would have otherwise. So it definitely by what percentage, I 474 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 14: don't know off the top of my head, but it's 475 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 14: it's it's meaningful. 476 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Okay, now you already know that story, the FBI reaching 477 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: out Facebook to sensory damaging story that would have hurt 478 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's election chances. What astounds me is that story 479 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: didn't last, isn't as lasting in the minds of the 480 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: American people. The Federal Bureau of Investigation reached out to 481 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: a social media company and told them to censor a 482 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: story they knew to be true so Joe Biden could 483 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: win an election. Do you understand what that means joining 484 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: me now, Senator one of the great ones. We don't 485 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: have many from the state of Wisconsin. Senator Ron Johnson, Senator. 486 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about you is this is 487 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that you've been all over for 488 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: the longest time, not letting this stuff go, demanding answers. 489 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: The federal law enforcement arm getting involved in elections for 490 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: either party is the only thing that matters. If you 491 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: look at what the history of secret state police agencies is, well. 492 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 15: The most egregious act of censorship and election interference was 493 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 15: really what Anthony blinkeln led as a member of Biden's campaign, 494 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 15: contacting ex CIA Deputy Director Mike Morrell asking him to 495 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 15: clean up. 496 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 13: The Hunter Biden laptop story. 497 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 15: That's what generated the letter signed by fifty one former 498 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 15: intelligence officials, vetted within hours by the CIA and allowed 499 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 15: to go public. I mean that actually impacted the election. 500 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 13: I can't think of. 501 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 15: A more egregious example, more blatant example of election interference. 502 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 15: And those people still have their security clearances, which should 503 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 15: be revoked on day one of President Trump's new term. 504 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 15: And you know, I've got to be with Anthony blancoln 505 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 15: because when we interview him about Hunter Biden. He blatantly 506 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 15: lied to our committee, so he's lied before Congress as well. 507 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 13: The current Secretary of State. 508 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 15: Lied to Congress and engineered prompted the most egregious active 509 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 15: election interference probably in our history. 510 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: Senator, what frustrates people is you just brought up Secretary 511 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: of State line for Congress committing these gross acts. No 512 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: one ever seems to be held to account for these things. 513 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: And it seems that we have a system in place 514 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: that no matter how much you want I mean, you're 515 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: a United States Senator and you want people held to account, 516 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem to be able to get done. 517 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: What's wrong with our system that people in government are 518 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: allowed to abuse these positions of power, abuse their positions 519 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: of power, and nothing ever happens to them. Nothing. 520 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 15: Well, from my standpoint, I can't prosecute anybody. All I 521 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 15: can do is try and investigate and uncover the truth 522 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 15: and refer to the Justice Department. Part of the time 523 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 15: I was a Chairman of Homeland Security, it was President 524 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 15: Obama in office, and his Department Justice wasn't going to prosecute, 525 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 15: for example, he wouldn't prosecute himself, Eric Holder. So it 526 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 15: depends on who's actually Department Justice. I did the investigation 527 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 15: of heally Clinton's email scandal. We're the ones that uncovered 528 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 15: the editing of James Comey's exoneration memo. Andre we change 529 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 15: gross negligence to extremely careless. So that wasn't ay, you know, 530 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 15: didn't use criminal terminology. But when President Trump and I 531 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 15: don't disgree with this decision either. When President Trump got elect, 532 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 15: he said, okay, well Hillary Clinton, she paid a price. 533 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 13: We're out a third world country. 534 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 15: We're not going to prosecute our political opponents. Of course, 535 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 15: that's exactly what Democrats do. So listen, I understand the 536 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 15: double standard. I understand you know how frustrated. 537 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 13: It is for people. 538 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 15: From my standpoint, all I can do is expose the truth, 539 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 15: and I think have been reasonably diligent, really reasonably dogged 540 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 15: and trying to pursue the truth. 541 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: You have been. So that brings me back to the DOJ, 542 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: which is actually the main subject of all this, because 543 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: that answer is always the same. I refer to the DOJ, 544 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: they do nothing. I refer to the DOJ, they do nothing. 545 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: So if we have a DOJ who only hunts down 546 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: pro lifers and doesn't actually clean out the corruption and 547 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: the government. How do we fix that? 548 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 13: We again, we have a du some justice. 549 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 15: So the Department Justice did prosecute people for obstructing Congress, 550 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 15: but it was a Democrat Department Justice, and they were 551 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 15: happy to prosecute Republicans. We haven't had that same opportunity, 552 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 15: I guess with the Republican Department Justice or Attorney General. 553 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 13: So we'll see what happens this time around. Again. 554 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 15: To me, if it's clear violations of federal law, we 555 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 15: will refer people who've committed criminal acts to Department Justice 556 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 15: for prosecution. And that's really kind of what I've talked 557 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 15: to these nominees about it. 558 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of the nominees, how hopeful are we that they're 559 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: all going to get through? I know everyone wants them 560 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: all to get through. I want them all to get through, 561 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: But I understand the world in which we live. How 562 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: is that looking? 563 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 15: Well, First of all, I think most Republican Senators take 564 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 15: the same viewpoint I do. 565 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 13: As elections matter. 566 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 15: We respect the convincing victory of Donald Trump, and it's 567 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 15: up to Donald Trump to determine who he wants serving 568 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 15: with him in his administration. We're not the ones that 569 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 15: are going to pick the person out he does. You know, 570 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 15: our job is to give him those people who wants 571 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 15: to work with. And so I think that's the primary attitude. 572 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 15: Barring some egregious issue in their background checks, I'm anticipa 573 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 15: and they're all going to get confirmed. 574 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: What are we expecting from Pam Bondy, Pam Bondie. People 575 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: are not that familiar with her, I am, but people 576 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: don't know what she is. Is this the type of 577 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: lady who is going to focus in word, because that's 578 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: most definitely what we need right now. We need someone 579 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: to clean out the government. 580 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 15: Well they really have you know, two fold task. They 581 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 15: need to restore integrity to their departments. That's what Cash 582 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 15: has to That's what she has to do as well. 583 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 15: The way you do that is you do have to 584 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 15: look and root out the partisan, the deep state actors. 585 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 13: So that's going to be a big job. 586 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 15: But also she needs to equally administer justice. 587 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 13: I don't want this flipping back and forth where now. 588 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 15: We're gonna go out and we're gonna be doing anything 589 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 15: we can to prosecute political opponents. You know, we need 590 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 15: to prosecute criminals, sence them, equally prosecute them equally, indict 591 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 15: them equally. 592 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 13: That's what the American people expect. 593 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 15: Now again, I realize Democrats don't do that, and it's 594 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 15: frustrating for our supporters, and we just play by the rules. 595 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 15: We want a single system of justice for people. And 596 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 15: from my standpoint, that's why I expect Pambondi. I don't 597 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 15: expect partisanship there. But if we refer something, you know, 598 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 15: based on what we see a criminal referral, I expect 599 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 15: her to fully investigate it and again use her prosecutor discretion. 600 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: What about the FBI. One thing that concerns me every 601 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: time I talk to somebody who worked at the FBI 602 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: is they say, look, the director of the FBI matters, 603 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: He matters a lot, but so much of the garbage 604 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: happens underneath the director and the director doesn't even know 605 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: about it. What can cash Patel do if he takes 606 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: over as head of the FBI, Because if you have 607 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: a secret state police agency, you don't have a free country. 608 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 15: Well, again, we need to appoint as many loyal deputies 609 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 15: who are willing, that are real fighters that are going 610 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 15: to go out and root out the deep state actors. 611 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 15: That's what we need to do. But we also do 612 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 15: need to, you know, redecentralize the FBI. We need to 613 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 15: send agents and prosecutors back out into the branches where 614 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 15: the prosecutory decisions aren't made with political considerations. And that's 615 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 15: that's what Obama, that's what what Biden has done. They've 616 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 15: brought these people into Washington, d C. Under people a 617 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 15: James Comy, and that that's where we've seen all the corruption, 618 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 15: you know, under Merrick Garland. So again, the American people 619 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 15: expect justice. They expect an FBI that's primarily tasked with 620 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 15: keeping us safe, investigating crimes, getting criminals off the street. 621 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 13: That'sould be on a completely non partisan basis. 622 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: Senator, thank thank you so much. I appreciate it. 623 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 13: Every day. 624 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: We'll be back. Things have to change radically at the DOJ, 625 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: not in small ways, in large ways. Is Pambondi up 626 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: to the task, I don't know. But we can't have well, 627 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: just a slightly different kind of kind of way of 628 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: doing things that the DOJ. That's not going to work anymore. 629 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: We need radical change. We must have a Department of 630 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: Justice that views its main goal as cleaning out the government, 631 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: no longer aiming its guns at the American people. That 632 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: has to be put on pause, and it must look 633 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: inward and clean the criminals out of this government. We 634 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: have to set aside these childish notions while we can't 635 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: do a tent for a tent. This stuff has to 636 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: stop and stop now. Until government people are made an 637 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: example of trials, prison time, we cannot fix this country. 638 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: We cannot fix the government because there's never been punishment. 639 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: And without that punishment, where does that leave us. We 640 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: will see if Pambondi is up to the task, all right, 641 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: I'll see it.