1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travison buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Breaking news for you right off the top. Within the 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: past hour. Doctor Fauci, the worst bureaucrat in American history, 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: a man who should be being rated by the FBI 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: for the wise that he has told surrounding gain a 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: function research and the disastrous advice that he has given 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: over the past two years, has done what Buck and 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: I told you he would do. He's running and hiding 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: in advance of Republicans at least taking back the House 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: and hopefully taking back the Senate. We will be joined 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: by Rand Paul, a Senator who has sworn that he 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: will do everything he can to hold doctor Fauci accountable 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: in about a half hour. But let's go ahead and 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: dive in. Buck, you hate Fauci as much as anyone 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: on the planet can hate Fauci. I am in the 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: upper echelon of Fauci haters. But this feels exactly Buck 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: like what we expected. He gets out of town before 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: the Republicans can come in and hold him accountable. They 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: announce it far enough out that it's not directly directly 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: connected to the mid terms, so he can claim, you 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: know what, it's just time for me to go. What 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: was your reaction when you saw this pop about, yeah, 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: forty five minutes ago. Well, really, Clay, it's a victory lap. 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: After three hundred years of selfless service, stretching all the 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: way back to the pre Columbian era of the America's 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: Fauci the longest serving government employee in the history of 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: the planet of the world we live in, which is, 29 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: by the way, a massive congregate setting altogether. This is 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: really just because his work here is done. After saving 31 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: so many millions and millions of maybe billions, billions of 32 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: dollars for Big Pharma, he's done an amazing job with 33 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: the Fizes stock price, although it's gone down a little lately, 34 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: and after making sure he's done everything possible to ruin 35 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: as many lives and businesses and childhoods, he really thought 36 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: it was time to accept a cruel five or ten 37 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: million for his memoir. That's my thought on Fauci, right, 38 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Unfortunately, he's going to get five or 39 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: ten million dollars four of that book, which will be 40 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: filled with wise about his tenure he's the highest paid 41 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: government employee. He's finally stepping down. I believe he's eighty 42 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: one years old ish. But if there were any justice 43 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: in the world, Fauci would get charged with crimes. And 44 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: we can talk about during the course of today a 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: show where I think he could get charged with crimes. 46 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: But Buck, this is going to still force COVID back 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: into the main storyline, and what you're going to see 48 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: is the last vestige of shutdown, lockdown defense. And from 49 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: here I legitimately believe this. You and I are both 50 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: history nerds. History over time is a weighing device, and 51 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: you end up with truth dominating over passion. I believe 52 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: that doctor Fauci will go down in history in the years, 53 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: in the decades ahead as the worst bureaucrat in American history. 54 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: And while he tries to argue that Fauci is synonymous 55 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: with science, in the years ahead, Fauci's name will become 56 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: a true signifier of scientific failure, of an unwillingness to 57 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: examine truth and what happens when people who should know 58 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: better all give away their logic and their rational thought 59 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: in favor of a supposed expert and fear joy. You 60 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: are you are far more optimistic about the rationality and 61 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: honesty of Americans. We'll see this is what I'm gonna say. 62 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: They're they're going to slow roll this. They've got it. 63 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: Let's understand what the apparatus has to do here. Fauci 64 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: and truth about Fauci would be a political liability for 65 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: them right now, and that will continue right that will 66 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: continue for the next couple of years. It'll continue probably 67 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: the next two or three years into whatever the administration 68 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: after that may be. I bet you're not gonna see 69 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: honesty about this, about Faucism and what was done to 70 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: the country for at least six or seven years from now, 71 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: I mean basically getting close close to a decade. Okay, 72 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: So you and I have a similar timeline in mind. 73 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: As long as there's a political, a political component of this, 74 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: they have to prop up Fauci because it's not about 75 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: what was true, it's not about what really happened in 76 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: the pandemic. It's that I mean, think Clay, if you 77 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: go back, I mean it's almost I have a hard 78 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: time because it's so rage inducing when you go back 79 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: and watch just all the smug, idiot, overpaid TV news 80 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: anchors who spent what's now the full we're looking at 81 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: now two years and how many months. I mean they 82 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: basically and they spent all this time not just suggesting 83 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: that Fauci was was a genius. They were slobbering over him. 84 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: It was grotesque. It was, Oh, doctor Fauci, please tell 85 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: us how we can all be so sciency and help 86 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: us all safe. You know, you know, the idiots all 87 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: across CNN mouthpiece for the regime, Brennan over at CBS News, 88 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: all all of them, same garbage from all of them 89 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: for years. Oh, please, Fouci, tell us the truth about 90 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: the science. This guy is a moron, folks. Yeah, he 91 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: was right everything about everything. And I know people say, oh, no, 92 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: he did it intentionally. No. I think in the beginning 93 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: he was just an anxious idiot who did what people 94 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: wanted him to do and didn't didn't actually have the 95 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: foresight to look at the data early on and realized 96 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: that his and see what's really happening, and realized his 97 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: job was just to be a little bureaucrat. It was 98 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: a massive failure not to fire him during the Trump administration. 99 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: If we're doing a full accounting, let's do it. Clay 100 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, let's really do the after action report here. 101 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: Fouci should have been fired in the summer, not right away. 102 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I understand summer at twenty twenty, he should have been fired. 103 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: They should have brought in people who are already looking 104 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: at the data then. But then the Biden administration to 105 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: elevate this guy to prop him up, Clay, how much 106 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: worse could it have been? Fauci wanted to go full 107 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: China in this country. If he thought he could get 108 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: away with it, he would have. He would have made 109 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: people stay in their homes. He would have locked us 110 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: down multiple times. He would have made you get shots, 111 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, four and five. And as a federal mandate, Yeah, 112 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: I think the time frame on this is Keybuck, because 113 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: in a decade, I really do believe Trump, Biden, and 114 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Fauci are all unlikely to still be alive. So the 115 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: politics of COVID when Biden, Trump and Fauci are all 116 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: gone and in a decade, that should I mean, look, 117 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to be morose here, but if you 118 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: look at actuarial tables, the odds of all three of 119 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,559 Speaker 1: those guys being alive in a decade are very very low. 120 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: And so as we look ahead, and the passions and 121 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: the politics of the moment fade. And as there are 122 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: younger people coming into the history writing era and they 123 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: haven't necessarily been committed to one side or the other, 124 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: you will get a full accounting. And I am never 125 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: been more confident that people buck like you and me 126 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: and Alex Berenson, who argued against lockdowns and masks and 127 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: so many of the Fauci healthcare apparatus, will be over 128 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: time rendered to be correct by the verdict of history. 129 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: And what is interesting about this to me that has 130 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: always been so fascinating is democrats and left wingers in 131 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: particular are so fast to say you're gonna be on 132 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: the wrong side of history with what you have argued. 133 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: And ultimately all of those people who spend time lecturing 134 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: us are going to be found lacking by the verdict 135 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: of history. And I believe that Fauci in the decades 136 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: ahead will become synonymous. I would not shock me if 137 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: his name becomes off hand verb for the failure of 138 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: experts and of the mass delusion of huge parts of 139 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the population. I think he has undermined science for decades 140 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: to come, and science will only heal itself by acknowledging 141 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: all that he got wrong and all the failures, and 142 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: the original sin Buck as you well know, if we 143 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: could go back in time and change one thing, and 144 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,119 Speaker 1: there's a lot that I would change, but the original 145 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: sin I think was in March shutting down every school 146 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: in this country. Because that set in place the apparatus 147 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: that allowed us to be sitting here two and a 148 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: half years later. I think, unfortunately, the cost associated with 149 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: so many kids, many of them disadvantaged, poor minority, without WiFi, 150 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: reliably at home, without laptops. Fauci is a stain on 151 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: their abilities for the rest of their lives. Trillions of 152 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: dollars in costs and lost education. He will be, I believe, 153 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: one of the great villains in American history in the 154 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: decades ahead. It's gonna take ten years though, yea. And 155 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: in the meantime, we often have this discussion about whether 156 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: it's the FBI or the CDC just a few bad apples, 157 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: not the rank and file. How many resignations were there 158 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: from the CDC over policies that somehow, you and I 159 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: and anyone listening to the show. First of all, they 160 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: were voting for us in terms of agreeing with us 161 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: about these things. That's why they listen. Right, everyone knows 162 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: you're coming here, we're talking about COVID. You understand we're 163 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: telling you the truth, and you're on board with the truth, 164 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: and you're trying to do what you can to get 165 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: the word out there. But Faucci never cared. It was 166 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: always political, right, It was always about what was going 167 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: to help him in the moment. And the shutdown of 168 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: schools was bad. But Clay, they lied to us in 169 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: the beginning, and we were supposed to act like that 170 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: didn't matter. Foucci lied about masks. I still say this 171 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: to this day that he said that masks don't work 172 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: because he thought we'd run out. I mean, is that 173 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: would you say this? Anybiotic doesn't cure this infection because 174 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm afraid the public is going to want too much 175 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: of that antibiotic because there's a that's crazy. You couldn't 176 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: you can't get away with it. That is what he did, 177 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: and people idolized him. The idiot. The idiot governor witless 178 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Whitmer of Michigan had the Fauci pillow in the background. Yeah, 179 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: people were selling Fauchi faces on underwear in the summer 180 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. And also there were there were the 181 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Cuomo people that were doing that too. For Andrew Cuomo, 182 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: the governor of New York. We saw a mass hysteria 183 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: happen here. And there were people the CDC and the 184 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: NIH and the Naiad which is the fauci kingdom within 185 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: the NIH, who knew better, and they didn't do a 186 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: damn thing about it, and they should hang their heads 187 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: in shame. I wouldn't have taken that many doctors, the 188 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: people who signed the Great Barrington Declaration, thank you to them, 189 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: by the way, because they were right and they took 190 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: a stand, and a lot of them took professional consequences. 191 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: The bureaucrats at the CDC and the NIH should be ashamed. 192 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: They should be ashamed of what atostrophic failure their institutions were. 193 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: The one time we really needed them, by the way, 194 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, in living, you know, in recent memory, the 195 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: one time we turned them, we said, look, the whole country, 196 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: the whole world needs you. Total failure. They lied to us. 197 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: There's no accountability and they don't even have the honor 198 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: at this point to bureaucratically fall on their swords and say, 199 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: you know what, this place is a disgusting, disgrace, and 200 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to be associated with the CDC anymore. 201 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: They're gonna write books about how awesome they are instead 202 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: they are. And that's why it'll take ten years, because, 203 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: as you well know, history swings right like until we 204 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: get outside of the passions of the moment. There will 205 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: be a bunch of hagiographies out there. I'm sure, as 206 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned, Fauci's gonna get five or ten million dollars 207 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: to write a book about how brave he was and 208 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: what an incredible job the CDC and the NIH and 209 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: everybody else did in unprecedented times, and that will get 210 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: mass appeal. And then in a decade from now, all 211 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: of this sort of reappraisal, with Fouci dead, with Trump 212 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: likely to be dead, with Biden likely to be dead, 213 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: and the politics of the moment becoming much less of 214 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: a fever pitch, there will be a examination. It will 215 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: be logical, it'll be rational, it'll be thorough, and it 216 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: will destroy doctor Fauci, who will to go down in 217 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: American history as one of the great villains of this Republic. 218 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: I would bet a massive amount of money that is 219 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: what the verdict of history is going to be. We'll 220 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: ask Rand Paul, also a doctor, about this senator from Kentucky. 221 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: He's scheduled to join us in about ten minutes. The 222 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: timing on this. Don't mistake what's going on at a minimum, 223 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: the House going back to Republicans. 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Dot com gone 259 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: back to work, go back and graded situations you don't 260 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: think that would add at some level made things even worse, 261 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: or in retrospect you I know it wouldn't. And now 262 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: Cton maybe that's pre vaccine, I think if yeah, I 263 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: think you know. Clearly my view was that we take 264 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: a pause evaluate how to do things in a safe 265 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: and responsible way. But shutting down the schools was much 266 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: greater public house farms of the kids than keeping the 267 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: schools open. Welcome back to Clay Anne Bock. That's the 268 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: former CDC director saying everything that the CDC made America do. 269 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: And I know there are a lot of people that 270 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: thought it was Fontie to shout at me on Twitter 271 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: and shout at Clay on Twitter and say we were 272 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Grandma killers. And a lot of you in this audience 273 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: had the same thing with co workers who were the 274 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: mask up it's beneath your nose, and neighbors who were worse. 275 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: Shot number five for you, buddy, you know all of that. Yep, 276 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: they were all wrong. The CDC chief here for the 277 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: for the first year of the pandemic is straight up 278 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: at Mitigan. Certainly on schools, but just playing the corrupt, greedy, 279 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: lazy teachers unions and the Democrat Party for that but Clay, 280 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: they got it all wrong, all of it, the whole 281 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: whole thing. And I Buck, I am so curious. I 282 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: was just saying to you off air. Historiography is the 283 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: study of history and how it comes to be accepted 284 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: as fact as you age and examine everything passed in history, 285 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: and history can be dynamic. There's constant, as you well know, 286 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: reappraisals of historical figures for a variety of reasons as 287 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: we advance as a society and as as time passes. 288 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: But I believe the original sin of COVID is going 289 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: to be shutting down schools. And I think you're going 290 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: to see an acknowledgement faster than to Well, I'm just curious. 291 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Could come back to this, Clay, because why not shutting 292 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: down everything? I mean that, why why not just the 293 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: shutdown idea period? Yeah, shutdowns? I think we're wrong. But 294 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: if we had shut down for two weeks or whatever, 295 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: can you Yeah, let's come back, Let's come back to 296 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: the initial let's go, let's bring it all full full 297 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: circle here. We'll come back and coming back in a second. 298 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, we can ask him, Yeah, in a few weeks. 299 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: We'll take a quiet moment in our lives and recall 300 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: the tragedy and bravery which on nine to eleven that 301 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: day will be forever remembered. We lost two thousand, nine 302 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven people killed in terrorist attacks on 303 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: American soil. 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Welcome back in Clay, Travis 318 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show Doctor Fauci resigning, tiring, fleeing off into 319 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: the night, as Republicans are poised to take back at 320 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: least the House and maybe the Senate. We are joined 321 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: now by one of the true truth tellers of COVID, 322 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: who has tried to hold doctor Fauci accountable for the 323 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: lies that he has told, Senator Ran Paul the Great 324 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: State of Kentucky. Senator, when you saw the news break 325 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: just within the last hour or so, first, thanks for 326 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: joining us. Second, what was your thoughts? What were your 327 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: immediate reactions to Faucci stepping down? You know, I thought 328 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: for some time that he will flee as soon as 329 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: he thinks that he'll be given accurate and poignant questions, 330 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: and I think he won't want to stand up to 331 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: the scrutiny. But the thing is is, even out of 332 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: public service, he can be subpoenaed, and I say, absolutely 333 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: we should. The origins of the virus are very important, 334 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: not just for culpability, not just because he funded the 335 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: lab where this virus and all likelihood originated. It's important 336 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: because we need to get to the bottom of trying 337 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: to prevent something like this from happening again. And I 338 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: don't think he has been honest. In the immediate aftermath 339 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: of them finding out the sequence of the RNA for 340 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: this virus, a host of his buddies we're emailing him 341 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: all day and all night long saying, oh my goodness, 342 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: this looks like it was manipulated in the lab. After 343 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: they all get together and have a meeting, this meeting 344 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: has been redacted. We can't see the information that happened 345 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: to this meeting. When this meeting occurs, then all of 346 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: a sudden they change their tune and they say, oh, 347 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: if you think it came from a lab, you're a 348 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. So the thing is is something went on. 349 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: I think there was a cover up, and we need 350 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of this. And I think 351 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: he holds the knowledge to this, and I think he 352 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: needs to be asked these questions under oath. Senator Paul, 353 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: it's buck. We appreciate, and really, speaking for this audience, 354 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: we all appreciate your being one of the very few who, 355 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: for two years now has been willing to ask Fauci 356 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: in a forum where he had to really answer questions 357 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: that he clearly didn't want because he was being dishonest 358 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: with the American people. It's more than just him though, 359 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: the NIH, the CDC, these multi billion dollars a year 360 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: government federal institutions seem to be abject failures. Now, I mean, 361 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: we have the data, we have the results. What does 362 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: accountability look like you're a US senator? What could be 363 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: done here? Transparency? For one through foury through freedom of information, 364 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: outside organizations have found out that eighteen hundred doctors that 365 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: are on the payroll d NIH also received one hundred 366 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: and ninety three million dollars in royalties from the pharmaceutical companies. 367 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: And we should be told, without question, we should be 368 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: told whether or not any of those people sit on 369 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: the vaccine committees. Did any of them receive royalties from 370 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: the companies that make the vaccines? And when I asked 371 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci this question and got all up in arms, 372 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: started rattling on, and then what he said was the 373 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: law allows us to keep this secret. Were acted by 374 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: the law, and we do not have to tell you. 375 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: So right now, they won't tell us. And it may 376 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: be that nobody's receiving royalties from the vaccine. I hope 377 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: that's what's true. But the thing is the fact that 378 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: they won't tell us makes us suspicious, and I don't 379 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: think this should be protected. I think this should be 380 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: completely transparent. We should know whether anybody has a self 381 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: interest who is determining whether or not to approve of 382 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: vaccine or any drug. Senator Paul, do you think, based 383 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: on the testimony that you've seen from doctor Faucci and 384 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the evidence, as you mentioned, some of it is still 385 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: not fully public, that Fauci should be investigated in face 386 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: potentially criminal charges for his actions related to COVID. I 387 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: think that he did lie to Congress when he said 388 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: that there wasn't any gain of function research going on 389 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: in Wuhan that we've already had. We've already had testimony 390 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: from scientists contradicting that, So I don't think he has 391 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: been honest. But I think there's also some of the 392 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: emails that we got from Freedom of information acts say 393 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: between he and doctor Collins that if this came from 394 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: the lab, it would be good for science. So there's 395 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: already sort of this conjecture out there among their emails 396 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: that we need to make sure people don't believe this 397 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: came from the lab because it won't be good for science. 398 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: But what they mean by that is it won't be 399 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: good for our funding and our enormous salaries that we 400 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: take from government. So yes, I think he's self interested. 401 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: I think they're all conflicted in interest. And when I 402 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: hit our hearing recently on gain of function, all three 403 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: scientists said that we should be treating this type of 404 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: research the same way we treat nuclear secrets. So if 405 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: you make centrifuges to enrich uranium, you can't just go 406 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: on eBay and sell them to Iran or Russia or China. 407 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: We don't allow that. We have controls, export controls on 408 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: nuclear technology. All three of these scientists agreed that we 409 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: should have export controls on DNA technology and that we 410 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't willy nilly just put up on the Internet and say, hey, guys, 411 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I just took a fifty percent mortality virus and I 412 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: made it air us alize, so it can infect people 413 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: through the air. You know, that's the kind of stuff 414 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: that's being published with no oversight of whether or not 415 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: if that gets into the wrong hands, whether that would 416 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: be knowledge that might be devastating for the world. Doctor Paul, 417 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: you're also well, I just said it. You're a doctor 418 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: as well as a senator. A lot of people I 419 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: would certainly put myself high on this list. Are very 420 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: disappointed in how few medical doctors came forward during this 421 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: to say things like masking up children outside on the 422 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: ground during school hours when it's thirty degrees during lunch 423 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: is child abuse? Is crazy? You shouldn't do this, you know, 424 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: double masking kids for eight hours a day in school 425 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: for that. We could go through the list all day. 426 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: How do you think we start to turn that around? 427 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Because I know a lot of people have lost faith, 428 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: certainly an institutional medicine. I mean they may like their 429 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: own GP, and you know I like my GP. I 430 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: mean there are people that are have been honest in 431 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: the medical profession throughout this, but institutions, big hospitals, research, 432 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: medical research, the agencies seem like they've just fallen down 433 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: on the job. Let me get this straight. You guys 434 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: are trying to tell me that when they took the 435 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: nets off the basketball goals outside of that didn't save 436 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: anybody's life apparently, I mean, this is this in the 437 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: fourteenth century, they would have laughed at some of the 438 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: stupid stuff we did police tape on the jungle job, 439 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, beating up people outside who are playing outside, 440 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, with their children. Ridiculous. In Louisville in my state, 441 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: as of today, they're putting kids in masks. There is 442 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: no science behind that one. The kids have already had it. 443 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: And this is a question I've asked about you. If 444 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: my child has already had COVID, what's the chance that 445 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: he goes to the hospital or dies from getting it again? 446 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I think the answer is zero. I don't think there's 447 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: been a case reported if somebody who's already had COVID 448 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: who got it again and died a child. Now there 449 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe there are some adults, but even that's unusual. But 450 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: the thing is is there's absolutely no reason if your 451 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: child has at COVID one to force an inoculation on 452 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: them and two to put them ask on them. And 453 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: the death rate from the severe COVID from the first 454 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: round the wild type was about one and two million. 455 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: It's less than that now. I think it is approaching zero, 456 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: the death rate for kids. And you know, we can't 457 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: let these people continue to rule our lives. They're not 458 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: making their decisions based on science. It's pseudoscience, and it's 459 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: really their predilection for control of other humans. Their predilection 460 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: for the nanny state that overrides any sense of any 461 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 1: kind of understanding of science. Just real quick, I mean, 462 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: doctor Paul. Whenever I go into a doctor's office now, 463 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: or I had to visit a familu umber the hospital, 464 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: they still act like the mask is super important, and 465 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: that dramatically undermines my belief that these are intelligent human beings. 466 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: So what can we do about this. It's not that 467 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: the master are important. Their pay is important. The government 468 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: won't pay them if they don't wear a mask. So 469 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: all these people, it's being mandated by mask. Now. I 470 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: know some doctor who are defying them, but most doctors 471 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: are afraid of It's like a bank. So if you 472 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: go in the bank and it's a really stupid rule, 473 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: but they threatened the bank with taking their license away, 474 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: the bank adheres to every stupid rule we give them. 475 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: Same with doctors. If you threaten to take away their 476 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: ability to charge Medicare, which is half of the public 477 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: is on medicare half the people going to doctors or 478 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: more depending on your specialty, the doctors will comply. Not 479 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: one of these doctors believes the masks. I talked to 480 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: them all the time. I used to be a member 481 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: of a clinic here in town with over one hundred doctors. 482 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: Every one of them will tell me they're sick and 483 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: tired and they're trying to get rid of it, but 484 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: they're being told that they won't pay them. The government 485 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: will not pay you if you don't wear a mask. 486 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: We're talking to Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky as he 487 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: points out Louisville, fantastic city, but man, they are run 488 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: by idiots having to wear masks. The kids still in 489 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: school there. Sat Buck and I started off the show 490 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: talking about this long range historical verdict on Fauci. We 491 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: talk about the short term, the testimony holding him accountable, 492 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: the origins of COVID, all of that investigation that still 493 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: has to take place. But a decade from now, when 494 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: some of the passions of the moment, Trump, Biden, Fauci 495 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: are much less likely to still be on the political stage. 496 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: What is the verdict of doctor Fauci and his response 497 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: to COVID as we move beyond the passions of the 498 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: present and history starts to render a verdict, what in 499 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: your mind would that look like? Well, because of his 500 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: obsessiveness with the idea that he is science and that 501 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: criticism of him is a criticism of science. I think 502 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: he's put us back, you know, several decades, and he's 503 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: also harmed objective criticism. The biggest problem is this, This pandemic, 504 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, was enormously disruptive, and I have friends who died, 505 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: So people did die from this, but it had a 506 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: death rate of about one percent, maybe a little bit less. Overall. 507 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: What we're going to find is that if we do 508 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: not analyze where this came from, a virus could escape 509 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: a lab because they are experimenting on viruses that have 510 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: fifty percent mortality. There's evidence that the Chinese lab, We've 511 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: found evidence in samples that they may have been doing 512 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: experiments with NIPA nipah. It's a virus that has sixty 513 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: percent mortality, and if you're monkying around with that and 514 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: trying to make it arisolized or trying to make it 515 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: more transmissible, it's a death death wish for civilization. So 516 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: I think I hope this is not true, but his 517 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: legacy maybe that he looked the other way, did not 518 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: fully investigate these pandemic research of creating these viruses out 519 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: of nothing, and God forbid that we get another one 520 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: of these, it's even worse out of the lab. In 521 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: the next decade or so, God forbid, we get like 522 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: what happened in the fourteenth century where a third of 523 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Europe died. So no, I think this is incredibly important. 524 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: The Democrats are completely incurious they I finally got a 525 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: hearing in a subcommittee on gain a function research and 526 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: none of the Democrats came. It's hard for me to 527 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: imagine why they would have no offsity as to where 528 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: this virus came from. Senor rand Paul. We really appreciate 529 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: your time, sir and your voice on this issue. Thank 530 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: you so much. Thanks guys. Every business, every industry, seems 531 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: to be raising their prices this year, not just gas stations, 532 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: but restaurants, clothing stores, hotel rooms, you name it. 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Dial pound two fifty and say Clay and Buck. 552 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: That's just dial pound two five zero from your phone 553 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: right now and say Clay and Buck. Pure Talk is 554 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: simply smarter wireless. Welcome back Clay and Buck show here. 555 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: We had some fun last week in Salt Lake City 556 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: and thanks to Kay and RS our affiliate out there 557 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: for hosting us at a great time. We also made 558 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: it out. I'd never been to Park City, Utah before. 559 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: Pretty fantastic, beautiful, beautiful place. We hung out with our 560 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: our buddy Jesse Kelly who's also a radio host on 561 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Premier Networks, and a few other a few other folks 562 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: we saw out there. Jack Carr hung out with us, 563 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: We talked, We talked Terminal List. I'm reading the Terminal List, right, 564 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: Have you read it? The first? I listened on tape 565 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: to the first in the series. Yeah, I listened to 566 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: an audiobook, but I literally had bought it before I 567 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: even knew that we were going to meet him. Obviously, 568 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Terminalists super popular on Amazon, and it's about a formal 569 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: former special ops. So see I read. Yeah, I read 570 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: the first hundred pages, and Bucket's phenomenal. I already had 571 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: the book bought. I was gonna read it. I wanted something, 572 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, like it's obviously a page turner, a thrill, 573 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: or something to take me out of serious reading, which 574 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: we do a lot of for the show. And it's fabulous. 575 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: I also have to tell you all, in case you 576 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: didn't know, you probably haven't experienced this. Clay is like 577 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: a is like a parenting wizard. Apparently his his his 578 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: youngest Nash was out there too, like the most polite, 579 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: well behaved, pleasant mom. Man, he's amazing. The credit Yeah, 580 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: it's Laura's got She's she's got skills, man, because you're 581 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: you're a young man. That guy could go with us. 582 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: Anywhere role anytime fits right in It's it's I was 583 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: really a carry was too. We were very impressed. He's 584 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: a really pretty fanatic. I know people out there and 585 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: you have multiple kids, especially the youngest kids, sometimes ends 586 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: up getting short shrifts, so to speak, because you spend 587 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot of time with the first kid and then 588 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: the second, so by the time you get to the 589 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: third or fourth kid, if you're out there and you 590 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: have multiple kids. So we took him with us on 591 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: this trip to Salt Lake, and he just was walking 592 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: on air because he just couldn't believe that he got 593 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: mom and dad to himself the whole weekend. But he 594 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: is a fantastic little kid, and we had an awesome 595 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: time hanging out. Met a lot of listeners and Jack Carr, 596 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that book. We like to share 597 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: book recommendations. I'm sure a lot of our listeners have 598 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: already read it. And it's a series. I think he's 599 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: on five or six of this of this book now series, 600 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: but I'm reading the first one right now, the Terminal List, 601 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: and it is incredibly engaging. There's fun. There's a reason 602 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: it's among the most successful, if not the most successful 603 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: original Amazon programs ever done, which Amazon has and a 604 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: lot of money. I mean, some folks don't really look 605 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: at think of Amazon Prime. I actually think Amazon Prime 606 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways superior in the totality 607 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: to Netflix. Netflix has had some great hits, but Amazon 608 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: Prime I find to be a little more consistent. Now 609 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: there's a lot of woke stuff and everything. Put put 610 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: that aside. There's woke stuff in both which which uh, 611 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: that's a side note. We also, did you get you 612 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: didn't watch the Game of Thrones prequel last night? Right 613 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: while I was in the air flying back from Salt Lake. 614 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: So I'm planning this evening when my wife gets home, 615 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: we're planning on watching. I heard HBO Max shut down. 616 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: You and I both loved the original. I think the 617 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones prequel maybe I've watched a couple of 618 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: trailers looks pretty good to me. The Lord of the 619 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: Rings though, because you know we we we were talking 620 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: to Jack Jack Carr just about these series and everything else. 621 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is out there. Hollywood Reporter says that 622 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: The Lord of the Rings cost well over five hundred 623 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: million dollars. The prequel Lord so so the new Lord 624 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: of the Ring on streaming on Amazon is going to 625 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: cost over over half a billion dollars and probably when 626 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: they do all the marketing and everything else, my friends, 627 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be close to a billion dollars they 628 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: are spending on a prequel show to the Lord of 629 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: the Rings. They've better hope people really like it. Bezos 630 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: at Amazon is supposedly a monster fan of Lord of 631 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: the Rings. So he just basically this is what I've 632 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I've been told when I've read interesting. He just refused 633 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: to not get the rights to this. This is one 634 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: of those things where you know, you're a billionaire, what's 635 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: the point of money if you don't spend it every 636 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: now and then. Uh, he just went to the war 637 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: on this and said, I'm not going to allow anyone 638 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: else to get the rights of this because he's such 639 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: a huge Lord of the Rings fans. Look, I hope 640 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: they're both. We could use two good new series to 641 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: kick back and you know, do some binge watching. So 642 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: because I'm almost done with my Peaky Blinders, man, I 643 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: got two episodes left and then it's all over, and 644 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know want them to do, you know, for 645 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: TV watching at least I want them gonna do. I 646 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of books to read, though, including The 647 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: Terminal List by our friend Jack Cars. You should all 648 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: go check that out if you haven't already. And the 649 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Amazon show is actually really good, Clay, you know, we 650 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: had kind of a wake up call week recently for 651 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: Republicans with some polls looking a little negative and you 652 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: think we're turning the corner though, you think the ship 653 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: is heading in the right direction. Again, there's some polls 654 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: that indicate we can get this done if we focus 655 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: in the midst. Yeah, I think there's people who are 656 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: starting to wake up. You know, you're on vacation in August, 657 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: you get closer to Labor Day. Elections really start after 658 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: Labor Day. We've got a couple of polls we want 659 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: to hit you with. Maybe some good news coming out 660 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania and other states. Will tell you about it 661 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: next