1
00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:15,480
Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. The twenty twenty battle

2
00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:22,479
Speaker 1: lines are drawn socialism versus capitalism, Sanders and others versus Trump.

3
00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is now in the mix. We'll talk about

4
00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,360
Speaker 1: what this means for the conversation for the presidential election

5
00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,560
Speaker 1: coming up, and also updates on McCabe's tour of trying

6
00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,120
Speaker 1: to reevaluate and redo his reputation and Jesse Smollett. We

7
00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,880
Speaker 1: got updates on that too coming up on The buck

8
00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,040
Speaker 1: Sexton Show. This is the buck Sexton Show, where the

9
00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,319
Speaker 1: mission or mission is to decode what really matters with

10
00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:53,320
Speaker 1: actionable intelligence. Mag Noo, mistake America, You're a great American Again.

11
00:00:53,400 --> 00:01:02,400
Speaker 1: The buck Sexton Show begins now. First of all, I

12
00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,800
Speaker 1: wanted to let the people to say Vermont know about

13
00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,520
Speaker 1: this first. And what I promised to do is as

14
00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,600
Speaker 1: I go around the country is to take the values

15
00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,400
Speaker 1: that all of us in Vermont are proud of, belief injustice,

16
00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,360
Speaker 1: in community, in grassroots politics and town meetings. That's what

17
00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to carry all over this country. I think

18
00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,440
Speaker 1: the current ocument of the White House is an embarrassment

19
00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,479
Speaker 1: to our country. I think he is a pathological lawyer.

20
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,800
Speaker 1: Every day he is telling one lay or another, and

21
00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,760
Speaker 1: it gives me no pleasure to say that. But I

22
00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,240
Speaker 1: also think he is a racist, a sexist, a homophobe,

23
00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:48,720
Speaker 1: a xenophobe, somebody who is gaining cheap political points by

24
00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,920
Speaker 1: trying to pick on minorities off an undocumented immigrants. Bernie

25
00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,720
Speaker 1: Standers is running out, that's right. First of I think

26
00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,840
Speaker 1: he missed his time. But I like Bernie because he's

27
00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,680
Speaker 1: he is one person that you know on trade, he

28
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,440
Speaker 1: sort of would agree on trade. I'm being very tough

29
00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,520
Speaker 1: on trade. He would solf and trade. The problem is

30
00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what to do about it. We're doing

31
00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,760
Speaker 1: something very spectacular on trade. But I wish Bernie well.

32
00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,119
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how he does. I think

33
00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,600
Speaker 1: what happened to Bernie maybe was not so nice. I

34
00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,919
Speaker 1: think he was taking advantage of he ran great four

35
00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,079
Speaker 1: years ago and he was not treated with respect by Clinton,

36
00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,720
Speaker 1: and that was too bad. I thought what happened to

37
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,240
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders four years ago was quite sad as it

38
00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,400
Speaker 1: pertains to our country. So we'll see how he does.

39
00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,919
Speaker 1: You get a lot of people running, but only one

40
00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,600
Speaker 1: person's going to win. I hope you know who that

41
00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,880
Speaker 1: person is. Good bye, everybody. Oh yeah, welcome to the

42
00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:54,959
Speaker 1: Buck Saxon Show. Everybody. President Trump never lacking in confidence,

43
00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,639
Speaker 1: and you can tell he doesn't even phaze him that Bernie.

44
00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,960
Speaker 1: And I don't like this version of Bernie. I like

45
00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,680
Speaker 1: the one who's all the millionaires and the billionaires and

46
00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna make everybody can free this and free that.

47
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,240
Speaker 1: Then it's gonna be unicorns and rainbows. It's gonna be amazing,

48
00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760
Speaker 1: and only super rich people are gonna pay. I don't

49
00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,800
Speaker 1: like the Bernie that's talking about how Trump is so

50
00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,000
Speaker 1: evil and bad and that's not fun Bernie. And unfortunately

51
00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,080
Speaker 1: that's where the Democratic Party is, and you get a

52
00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,400
Speaker 1: sense of one Trump realizes that they're just gonna throw

53
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,160
Speaker 1: so much it's not even worth him responding all that

54
00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,160
Speaker 1: much to it. Although I know the Trumpster is gonna

55
00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,639
Speaker 1: he's gonna put out some haymakers on Twitter. Here, he's

56
00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna lay down the lay down the pain

57
00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter for bat candidates as he as he deems fit.

58
00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,920
Speaker 1: But there's also this little crossover between and I remember

59
00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,320
Speaker 1: it from the primary, between Bernie Sanders and Trump voters.

60
00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,000
Speaker 1: Because the Democratic Party on trade and on immigration has

61
00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,760
Speaker 1: has sold out the working class, and Bernie Sanders knows this.

62
00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,720
Speaker 1: And it's really the far left of the Democratic Party

63
00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,160
Speaker 1: that supports Bernie Sanders that on this one issue has

64
00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,760
Speaker 1: a whole lot more sense than the establishment than the

65
00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,760
Speaker 1: kind of Hillary Clinton. Now Corey Booker, Kamela Harris Wing

66
00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,040
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, Kamela, by the way, came out.

67
00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,400
Speaker 1: She was asked about this straight up. Are are you,

68
00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,920
Speaker 1: because she's a top contender on the Democrat side, are

69
00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,479
Speaker 1: you a socialist? Here is what she said, Play fifteen.

70
00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,960
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders describes himself as a Democratic socialist to compete

71
00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,400
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire in the Democratic primary, Jeff to move

72
00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,880
Speaker 1: more toward the Democratic socialist part of the party. Well,

73
00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,920
Speaker 1: the people of New Hampshire will tell me what's required

74
00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,680
Speaker 1: to compete in New Hampshire. But I will tell you

75
00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,440
Speaker 1: I am not a Democratic socialist. Also, I think that

76
00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400
Speaker 1: answer is kind of weird that people will tell you

77
00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440
Speaker 1: what is required to compete there. No, I think you

78
00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,279
Speaker 1: tell them what your ideas are and then they vote.

79
00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think that she got a

80
00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,600
Speaker 1: little but I digress. But she's not a Democratic socialist.

81
00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,320
Speaker 1: He says, Well, that's interesting because her party is a

82
00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:11,080
Speaker 1: party of democratic socialism. This is what people don't want

83
00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,400
Speaker 1: to say in the media. They don't want to go there,

84
00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,560
Speaker 1: but it has happened. I think that Bernie Sanders as

85
00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,120
Speaker 1: much as he's probably too old to be doing this

86
00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,640
Speaker 1: or why is that so wrong to say there's a

87
00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,880
Speaker 1: constitutional restriction on being too young to run for president.

88
00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,559
Speaker 1: I know we don't have one for being too old,

89
00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,479
Speaker 1: but I also think the founding fathers probably never foresaw

90
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,200
Speaker 1: somebody who is going to be eighty in their first

91
00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,599
Speaker 1: year as president. I don't think they thought that was

92
00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,560
Speaker 1: a thing. But why is it? Why is that unfair?

93
00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't an unfair conversation. It hasn't been an unfair

94
00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,159
Speaker 1: conversation in previous elections. And I think that Sanders is

95
00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,080
Speaker 1: right at the if not beyond the red line, right

96
00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,680
Speaker 1: at the red line, for there's a certain degree of

97
00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,159
Speaker 1: energy and just day to day vitality that you're going

98
00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,680
Speaker 1: to need to do this job. And Sanders may have

99
00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,600
Speaker 1: missed his window. In fact, I think that Sanders feels

100
00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,320
Speaker 1: from his supporters a a push into the into the

101
00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,040
Speaker 1: race because they know that Warren is a non starter.

102
00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,839
Speaker 1: Warren was supposed to pick up the torch, you know,

103
00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,640
Speaker 1: take up the mantle of Bernie Sanders going into twenty twenty.

104
00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. I think I think

105
00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,560
Speaker 1: Warren is Her brand is just too damaged. It's too silly.

106
00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:32,000
Speaker 1: Corey Booker with his IRB Spartacus. You know, the Democrats,

107
00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,440
Speaker 1: they may they may warm up to him. I think

108
00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,960
Speaker 1: that Corey Booker and producer Mike we can mark this

109
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,520
Speaker 1: one down. If you're asking me right now, who's gonna

110
00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,560
Speaker 1: win the Democratic nomination, I think it's Corey Booker. Really,

111
00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna chi, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna change this a

112
00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,640
Speaker 1: bunch of times, and we'll play whichever prediction is right

113
00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,040
Speaker 1: down the line, and we'll just pretend like the other

114
00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,800
Speaker 1: ones didn't happen, because you know radio. But right now,

115
00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,120
Speaker 1: if somebody, somebody tried to turn nail me down, I'd

116
00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,240
Speaker 1: I'd say Corey book He's got the media, the elite left,

117
00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400
Speaker 1: the establishment, they all like him. And I think that

118
00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,159
Speaker 1: he could play reasonably well in Pennsylvania, in Ohio, in

119
00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,120
Speaker 1: those states. So you know, Kamala Harris just doesn't have

120
00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,680
Speaker 1: the doesn't have the retail politics skills. He pulled ahead

121
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,280
Speaker 1: of Hillary. For you who Hillary, I said, Booker, He's

122
00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,520
Speaker 1: pulled ahead of Hillary. Huh in your hollow. I'm starting

123
00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,440
Speaker 1: to walk. I'm starting to walk back from my She's

124
00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,720
Speaker 1: running again. I think it's too crazy, even for her.

125
00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,080
Speaker 1: Although you see that there's a crazy I don't put

126
00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,920
Speaker 1: anything past the Clinton Michael. You know they they actually

127
00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,840
Speaker 1: have a speaking engagement. I think in DC and I

128
00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,400
Speaker 1: saw this. It could I didn't verify this, this could

129
00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,880
Speaker 1: be fake, but you can get a I'm being serious.

130
00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,200
Speaker 1: I did see a flyer for how you can get

131
00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640
Speaker 1: a great deal to go here Bill and Hillary Clinton speak.

132
00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,760
Speaker 1: The tickets are they are originally two hundred dollars and

133
00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,000
Speaker 1: now they're like one hundred and fifty or something, right,

134
00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,040
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to bust people in. They're gonna

135
00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,440
Speaker 1: pay them. Yeah, No, no one cares anymore. The Clinton say.

136
00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,880
Speaker 1: This is why that when people talk about Trump and

137
00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,960
Speaker 1: Moscow and the tower and all this stuff, the Clinton

138
00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,080
Speaker 1: corruption is so brazen and so outlandish and so obvious

139
00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,880
Speaker 1: that all these people, all these journo firefighter types out

140
00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,480
Speaker 1: there in the journalist world who act like they care

141
00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,520
Speaker 1: so much about conflicts of interest and the emoluments clause.

142
00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,720
Speaker 1: The Clintons ran a multi billion dollar influenced peddling empire

143
00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,800
Speaker 1: out of the open, pretending that it was a charity

144
00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,880
Speaker 1: and the press had no interest in digging into what

145
00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,800
Speaker 1: was really going on here. Fifty million dollars spent on

146
00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,320
Speaker 1: private jet travel, a private jet travel for the Clinton Foundation.

147
00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:55,320
Speaker 1: Fifty million. You know, nobody, nobody, uh can fly commercial.

148
00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240
Speaker 1: They oft to fly private, the Clinton Foundation anyway, don't

149
00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,160
Speaker 1: even don't even get me started. I mean, that's why

150
00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,160
Speaker 1: the people that are making all this noise about Trump

151
00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,000
Speaker 1: and his dealings overseas, and at least Trump's running a

152
00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,480
Speaker 1: business where people get a product, they buy an apartment,

153
00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,439
Speaker 1: or they buy a stake or whatever it is. With

154
00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,240
Speaker 1: the Clintons, you buy the perception of power. That's all

155
00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,959
Speaker 1: that they were selling. But let me get back into

156
00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,200
Speaker 1: the Democrat race here, because you know, Kamala Harris is

157
00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,200
Speaker 1: making this calculation that the Democratic Party is not yet

158
00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:34,640
Speaker 1: a fully owned subsidiary of Bernie ink and the whole

159
00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,199
Speaker 1: left wing democratic socialism wave. And I think she's wrong,

160
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,600
Speaker 1: and I think Bernie Sanders recognizes this, which sets up

161
00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,199
Speaker 1: a truly a truly and I mean this word a

162
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,280
Speaker 1: people overuse it epic, but an epic political showdown in

163
00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty over the future of the country. This is

164
00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,880
Speaker 1: not John Carrey versus George Bush, which was kind of,

165
00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,840
Speaker 1: let's be honest, kind of a potato potato. I know

166
00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,640
Speaker 1: people are gonna get mad at me for saying that

167
00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:08,079
Speaker 1: it's reality. This is Do you want a capitalist who

168
00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,640
Speaker 1: approaches day to day issues with common sense the way

169
00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,080
Speaker 1: a normal person would President Trump? Or do you want

170
00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360
Speaker 1: a pie in this guy democratic socialist who thinks climate

171
00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,720
Speaker 1: change is an urgent national security threat, that redistributing wealth

172
00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,360
Speaker 1: makes people wealthier and it makes the country wealthier. And

173
00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,600
Speaker 1: that's a real choice. And whether it's Bernie Sanders or

174
00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,760
Speaker 1: another Democrat, I think that sanders Ism has one in

175
00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,720
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and it's not just going to be

176
00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,280
Speaker 1: for the primary. I think that we are facing a

177
00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,559
Speaker 1: question as a nation as to whether we are going

178
00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,559
Speaker 1: to become a socialist country. Now Trump has stated, thank

179
00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,559
Speaker 1: Hammin's We're never going to be a socialist country, and

180
00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,640
Speaker 1: I hope he's right, and I know he's fired up

181
00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:59,439
Speaker 1: about this. But let's understand that Bernie, Hillary and Bernie

182
00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880
Speaker 1: in that line election that was meaningful for what the

183
00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,080
Speaker 1: opposition is going to be that we face. Hillary represented

184
00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,760
Speaker 1: that old Democrat party of the media props you up

185
00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,119
Speaker 1: a lot of pay to play, a lot of access

186
00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:19,040
Speaker 1: the establishment, and kind of this rickety, unsteady coalition of

187
00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,960
Speaker 1: all these different groups identity politics groups and all the

188
00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,600
Speaker 1: rest of it unions, and Hillary was just sitting atop

189
00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:31,520
Speaker 1: of that. Sandersism for the country is socialism is massive

190
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,679
Speaker 1: government spending is crippling you and your business with taxation

191
00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,480
Speaker 1: and regulation, all with the promise that what you're going

192
00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,360
Speaker 1: to get they call it Medicare for all. But let

193
00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,959
Speaker 1: me tell you something, we'll be lucky if it's even

194
00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,480
Speaker 1: Medicaid for all. And anyone with any familiarity about the

195
00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,760
Speaker 1: Medicaid program knows you do not want to be on

196
00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,679
Speaker 1: it if you have a choice. Doctors don't take it.

197
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:05,120
Speaker 1: Top hospitals won't see you. There is a cost to

198
00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,360
Speaker 1: this that the Democrats that the Bernie Sanders wing will

199
00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,120
Speaker 1: not tell you about. They pretend that this is all

200
00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,040
Speaker 1: just going to be better if it wasn't, because if

201
00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't for those greedy, mean capitalist Wall Streeters Republicans.

202
00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,520
Speaker 1: Even the Wall Street is a Democrat stronghold now they

203
00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,800
Speaker 1: don't like the Wall Street is a Democrat subsidiary now.

204
00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,720
Speaker 1: But I think Goldman Sachs was the single biggest contributor

205
00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,920
Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton. I forget the exact staff, but it

206
00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,280
Speaker 1: was one of the biggest contributors to Hillary Clinton's campaign

207
00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,600
Speaker 1: of any private company might have been number one. But

208
00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,600
Speaker 1: Bernie's Bernie's approach here is going to be the Democrat approach.

209
00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,520
Speaker 1: So even if Sanders is too old, even if he

210
00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,000
Speaker 1: can't win, even if he's not able to get through

211
00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:57,120
Speaker 1: this incredible field of clowns that the Democrats have put forward,

212
00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,000
Speaker 1: his ideology I think is going to be the Democrat

213
00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:05,240
Speaker 1: Party's ideology. Play eighteen. Many of the ideas that I

214
00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,280
Speaker 1: talked about, Medicare for all, raising the minimum wage to

215
00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:14,679
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars an hour, making public colleges and universities tuition free,

216
00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,280
Speaker 1: all of those ideas. People say, oh, Bernie, they're so radical,

217
00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,600
Speaker 1: they are extremely American. People just won't accept those ideas. Well,

218
00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,240
Speaker 1: you know what's happened to over three years. All of

219
00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,679
Speaker 1: those ideas and many more and now part of the

220
00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,439
Speaker 1: political mainstream. They are part of the Democratic Party mainstream.

221
00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,400
Speaker 1: That is not a point that can be refuted. The

222
00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,800
Speaker 1: Democrats have embraced this stuff. They have. They have seen

223
00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,560
Speaker 1: the twenty two trillion dollars in debt. They've seen government

224
00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,079
Speaker 1: in action over the course of decades to bloat, the corruption,

225
00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,720
Speaker 1: the waste, to fraud, the abuse to spending, the regulations,

226
00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,320
Speaker 1: the crushed dreams of business, businesses and entrepreneurs and innovators.

227
00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,960
Speaker 1: And they've seen all that. And their answer is more taxation,

228
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,559
Speaker 1: more regulation, a bigger state, heavier chains on all of us.

229
00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,920
Speaker 1: That's their answer to this. And I think if we

230
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,120
Speaker 1: just look around our own hemisphere, we see what can

231
00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:23,440
Speaker 1: happen when a government of social justice warriors decides that

232
00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,680
Speaker 1: the wealth should be redistributed first and foremost, that is

233
00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,920
Speaker 1: the single most important thing that the government can do.

234
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,000
Speaker 1: This does not end well for us, my friends. This

235
00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,680
Speaker 1: means also that not only is four more years of

236
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,640
Speaker 1: Trump going to be at stake, with all of his

237
00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,440
Speaker 1: policies and promises and an agenda that I very much

238
00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,960
Speaker 1: support and have signed on for for a long time now,

239
00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,560
Speaker 1: but also the choice is not Trump or your run

240
00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,920
Speaker 1: of the mill democrat. The choice is Trump or socialism.

241
00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,840
Speaker 1: That's what we face. That is what has been said

242
00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,000
Speaker 1: in motion right now, so get ready for the fight,

243
00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:08,800
Speaker 1: my friends. We'll be right back. And so as the

244
00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:14,640
Speaker 1: United States stands up for democracy in Venezuela, we reaffirm

245
00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,400
Speaker 1: the solidarity with the long suffering people of Cuba and

246
00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,840
Speaker 1: Nick Ruckle and people everywhere living under socialists and communistry.

247
00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,560
Speaker 1: And to those who would try to impose socialism on

248
00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,880
Speaker 1: the United States, we again deliver a very simple message.

249
00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:42,680
Speaker 1: America will never be a socialist country. We are born

250
00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:50,520
Speaker 1: free and we will stay free now and forever. I

251
00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,640
Speaker 1: certainly hope the President's right. I know he'll do his

252
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,600
Speaker 1: part to fight so that he is. But we are

253
00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,840
Speaker 1: at a at a real moment of us as a nation,

254
00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:09,200
Speaker 1: as a people, the tide of socialism is rising. Yes,

255
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,560
Speaker 1: there is at least an opportunity here for the entire

256
00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,280
Speaker 1: Western hemisphere to look at what's going on in South

257
00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,440
Speaker 1: America and say, okay, well, clearly Venezuela has gone down

258
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,880
Speaker 1: a very wrong path. But you only need you only

259
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,240
Speaker 1: need one administration to come along in this country and

260
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,240
Speaker 1: impose reckless socialist policies and do a tremendous amount of damage,

261
00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,800
Speaker 1: damage that I don't know if we ever really recovered

262
00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,120
Speaker 1: from as a country. Keep in mind, China is becoming

263
00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,120
Speaker 1: a near peer competitor. Some would argue it already is

264
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,480
Speaker 1: a near peer competitor. It's got a lot more people

265
00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,880
Speaker 1: than us, it has some advantages built in with its

266
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 1: industrial capacity because of well obviously the lack of environmental

267
00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,240
Speaker 1: regulations and it's predatory trade practices. So I don't think

268
00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,120
Speaker 1: that America can be asleep at the wheel as an

269
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,679
Speaker 1: economic powerhouse for eight years without suffering real consequences. You

270
00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,360
Speaker 1: put somebody like Bernie Sanders and o'cazio Quartez is too young,

271
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,520
Speaker 1: I know, But why is she getting so much attention?

272
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,080
Speaker 1: Why is it that the left is holding up this

273
00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:23,960
Speaker 1: absolute ignoramus as the premier Democrat voice in the nation,

274
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,359
Speaker 1: which has been the case for the last couple of months.

275
00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,800
Speaker 1: Ocazio Quartez has more sway. I think she I saw

276
00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,400
Speaker 1: something that said that she might be in the top

277
00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:38,000
Speaker 1: five most interacted with Twitter accounts in the world, of

278
00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,199
Speaker 1: all of them, I know, I think she's in the

279
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,840
Speaker 1: top ten for sure. It might have been the top five.

280
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:49,520
Speaker 1: O'casio Cortez has greater cultural media and political sway than

281
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,400
Speaker 1: anybody else in the party right now, and she doesn't

282
00:17:52,680 --> 00:18:01,439
Speaker 1: know a thing about a thing. She just represents the trappings,

283
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:08,679
Speaker 1: the appearance, the facade of a socialist future, which is

284
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,800
Speaker 1: why she is so wildly popular with the left in

285
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,240
Speaker 1: this country that thinks that now that we don't have

286
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 1: some major war on the horizon, and we're wealthy, and

287
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,119
Speaker 1: things have been going well in this country for at

288
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 1: least a couple of years, but overall, obviously for decades,

289
00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,760
Speaker 1: things that have been going very well in America financially.

290
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,240
Speaker 1: Now is the time for them to say, you know what,

291
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,920
Speaker 1: let's just put the brakes on all that and let's

292
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,240
Speaker 1: fundamentally bar from Obama here, fundamentally transform not just the

293
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,159
Speaker 1: way the American economy operates, but the purpose of the

294
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,919
Speaker 1: American economy, which is not to create wealth, but in

295
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,479
Speaker 1: a Sanders socialist dystopia, it will be to redistribute it.

296
00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,600
Speaker 1: He's holding the line for America. Bug Sexton is back,

297
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,440
Speaker 1: Can you be a democratic socialist and a capitalist? Well,

298
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: I think it depends on your interpretation. So there are

299
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: some democratic socialists that would say absolutely not. There are

300
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 1: other people that are democratic socialists that would say, I

301
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 1: think it's possible. What are you I think it's possible?

302
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 1: I think you say do. So I'm a capitalist, but

303
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't say that. Okay, you know, if anything, I

304
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:30,439
Speaker 1: would say, I'm I believe in in a democratic economy.

305
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 1: But gotcha. But the but is there so so in

306
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 1: some ways, whether it's you're coming from say Elizabeth Warren's

307
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 1: perspective where she says, you know, she says things like,

308
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm a capitalist, but we need to have hard rules

309
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,640
Speaker 1: for the game. What does the private sector do better

310
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 1: than you know that the private Look, government should stay

311
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: out of X because the private sector does that better. Yeah,

312
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things. There's a lot

313
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: of consumer goods where the private sector works. And by

314
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 1: the way, if it's important to delineate that just because

315
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: you're in the private sector does it. You can be

316
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 1: in the private sector and be a democratically socialist business.

317
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: Worker cooperatives are a perfect example of that. Okay, So yeah,

318
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: you gotta. I just wanted to give you a sense

319
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: of what the Democratic Party it gets excited about and

320
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: you're hearing it there now. I also go back and

321
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 1: forth as to how much I want to just go yeah,

322
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 1: like I mean like it totally like democratic and I

323
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: know that anybody can do that. So it's a little

324
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 1: bit of fun once in a while. But I do

325
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 1: think we have to take this seriously. Even to call

326
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: them ideas, and to take these ideas seriously might be

327
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: giving them too much credit in a sense, because it's

328
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: really more emotions. It's really more an impulse, a feeling

329
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: of if only we were able to have the government

330
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: making more decisions, there would be less poverty in America.

331
00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: There would be more fairness, which is a very easy

332
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 1: to abuse term, which we will remember with Obama. Pay

333
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: fair share, right, You're gonna pay your fair share. That

334
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: was always the pitch from Obama himself, and the Democrats

335
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: are embracing this emotion based economics, which I think is

336
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: very troubling because it is superficially appealing. If you think

337
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: about this, Yeah, you know, I feel badly when I

338
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: see a poor person on the street. Really, if if

339
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: we just pay a little bit higher taxes we want

340
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: to have poor people on the streets. The answer to

341
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: that is no. But you can see how people if

342
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: they're told this enough, and if they're told that climate

343
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: change is an existential threat to the nation, that all

344
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: these things that the Democrats have the advantage of a

345
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: media apparatus that just pushes the propaganda all the time.

346
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: It's easy for someone who's just trying to live his

347
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: or her life and go through their day to day

348
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you know, Sweden's not so bad, right,

349
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Bertie Sanders should run for mayor of Sweden,

350
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: but or mayor of Stockholm. But he's running for president

351
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: of the United States. It's a different job. We are

352
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: different than these other countries because of the underlying philosophy

353
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: we have about the relationship between citizen and state and

354
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: the boundaries the individual rights that we all enjoy that

355
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: the state cannot cross. Once it's all about what's good

356
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: for the collective, then it's just a question of who's

357
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: in power to determine what that collective good may be. Democrats,

358
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: of course, view this as them If they're in power,

359
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: they know what's the best for all of us, and

360
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: so what that means they're going to do to you

361
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: as an individual doesn't really matter. This is where you

362
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: get into the troubling and eventually catastrophic deterioration of individual

363
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: rights that happens in a statist society when the state

364
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: makes all determinations, makes all decisions for you, this leads

365
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: down pathways that are very dark in our history, I mean,

366
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: and in recent history. I mean, you just look at

367
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: the history of the twentieth century and you don't want

368
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying, oh, Nazi Germany and the

369
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: Soviet you get no. No No, I mean, look at any

370
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: country that's gone increasingly that has left the direction of

371
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: free markets and freedom and gone toward state control authoritarianism.

372
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: And people say, well, Buck, look at China, and they says, yeah,

373
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: China has become more and more free market. China was

374
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: a dogmatic communist state that is now a kind of

375
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: communist capitalist hybrid. You know, it's an authoritarian state based

376
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: on an economic model of really almost mercantilism too, especially

377
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: when you look at what it's doing abroad. So if

378
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about these matters, we should at

379
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: least try to do so with some accuracy, if we

380
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: can't even get into specificity. But o'casio cortez I doesn't

381
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: know about any of this stuff. All she knows is

382
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: there are people who are upset, they feel like they're

383
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: left out. There's a concentration of wealth in what feels

384
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: like very few hands, even though the overall concentration of

385
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: wealth for the American people is much greater than it was,

386
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: and that the two income trap, which is something I

387
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: want to address again on this show. That's a problem.

388
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of a lot of things to

389
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: unpack in that. It is true that people were able

390
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: to raise at least in the American middle class. You

391
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: were able to raise a family on one income more

392
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: comfortably in the fifties than you could today. But there's

393
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: a lot to look at as to why that's the

394
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: case and what government policies today and then influence those economics. Remember,

395
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: we do not exist. We are not a free market country.

396
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: We aspire to free market, we aspire to be a

397
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: purely capitalist society, but there's a lot of regulation and

398
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: politics and red tape and government intrusion in the marketplace.

399
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: You know, it would be fascinating if I could just

400
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: get an answer to whether o'casio Cortez has read Hyak

401
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: The Road to Serfdom. In fact, I would even take

402
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: it a step further. I would want to know of

403
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: marks and angles. There are so many people you find

404
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: on the left that borrow their ideas, they borrow liberally

405
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: from marks and angles. But do they really understand the text,

406
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: Have they really learned to history, Do they know what

407
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: the heck they're talking about, or do they just pick

408
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: and choose the parts of it that they think will

409
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 1: get them applause from Slate and Vox and the New

410
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 1: York Times editorial page and all the rest of it.

411
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: I think that there's very little understanding on the left

412
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: of the mechanisms of state control in the economy. They

413
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: just know that power is good. They're the good people.

414
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: If they're in power, good things will happen. And the

415
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: only people that will will suffer are the enemies of

416
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: the left, the rich, white male patriarchy. That's that's essentially

417
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: the enemy, the enemy. And if you fall into any

418
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: of those categories, male, rich, white, you know there there's

419
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: criticism that comes along just with that. Even if you're

420
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: poor and white and male, you're part of the patriarchy.

421
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: You're part of this of this hierarchy. Even if you're

422
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a minority who is conservative, you're

423
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: part somehow you're you're also part of this hierarchy of oppression.

424
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: But we have to take these ideas seriously. They are

425
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: popular in a vacuum they're popular when people first hear

426
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: about them. If you want free healthcare, yeah, I want

427
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: free healthcare. Sounds great. Well, do you know what you're

428
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna pay for that free healthcare? No, no idea someone

429
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: else is gonna pay. Not true. That is a lie

430
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: they always tell us about Trump slies. I want to

431
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: make sure that we focus on and we spread the

432
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: truth across the country about the lies that the left

433
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: relies on for its political philosophy to work, that the

434
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: left needs as part of its foundation, those lies, the

435
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: lies of socialism. We will stay on that. We'll be

436
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: right back. Maduro is not a Venezuelan patriot. He is

437
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: a Cuban puppet. That's what he is. We seek a

438
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: peaceful transition of power, but all options are open. If

439
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: you choose this path, you will find no safe heart,

440
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: no easy exit, and no way out. You will lose everything. Yo,

441
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: there you have Trump. There you have Trump talking about

442
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: what's going on in Venezuela, which you made. Say to yourself, oh, well,

443
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: you know, how much do we really care about what's

444
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: happening in Venezuela. It's not our country, it's there, it's

445
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, for them to figure out for them to deal. Well,

446
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: there's obviously a tie into what we see going on

447
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: in this country right now, because while the Democrats here

448
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: like to talk a lot about the socialism as it

449
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: is practiced in countries like Norway and Denmark and Sweden,

450
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: socialism in our own hemisphere has a long and storied

451
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: history of catastrophic failure, and Venezuela is just the most

452
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: noticeable current example of that failure. But there are many

453
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: others as well. Cuba, for example. You look at the

454
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: friends that the Majuro regime has, and one thing that

455
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: binds them together is they are left wing socialist dictatorships

456
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: or quasi dictatorships. I mean, you look at what's going

457
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: on in Nicaragua. That's what binds them together. That they

458
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: have essentially embraced an economic philosophy and economic system that

459
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: just does not work. And when you start to extrapolate

460
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: from a situation in Venezuela for what's going on in

461
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: this country, I know that democrats are gonna, oh, they're

462
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, it's so unfair and look at well,

463
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: look at Denmark. Don't look at Venezuela. Denmark has very

464
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: high taxes in the middle class. They're not going to

465
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: be able to get around this. Denmark is not a

466
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: country where the state has a tremendous amount of control

467
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: over the economy. The state just provide services in response

468
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: or you know, resulting from or that that are only

469
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: possible because of very high income taxes on everybody. So

470
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: that's that's the model that they talk about, is only

471
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: possible if the middle class in this country pays sixty

472
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: percent income tax. What you have in Venezuela is when

473
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: you add social justice into the mix, right, the social

474
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: justice rhetoric of class warfare, of different you know, ethnicities

475
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: being lumped together by the state, treated differently because of

476
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: the state. Look at the native populations in Venezuela. Look

477
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: at the way that you know, there's different ethnic conflict

478
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: and different ethnic back and forth in Venezuela, just like you.

479
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: Every country in the world has this, and it's just

480
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: a question of degree. There's always some sense of a

481
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: class structure that's in place of different ethnicities within that country.

482
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Even if you know they're all speaking a similar language,

483
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: with the same language either there's still are these breakdowns.

484
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: But Venezuela has some of these similarities with the left

485
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: in America that we need to be very aware of,

486
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: and also the way that Democrats approach governance, the way

487
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: that democrats view setting prices, for example, for determining what

488
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: you can pay. That was one of the big downfalls

489
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: for the Venezuela and E comedy was that the Venezuelan

490
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: government said, there are greedy profiteers who are making too

491
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: much money by producing home appliances. So Maduro's regime came

492
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: along and said, okay, if you're selling appliances, now you

493
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: have to sell them for this amount of the equivalent

494
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: of dollars, right, whatever, whatever the Venezuelan paso is, you

495
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: have to sell it for this amount. And the problem

496
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: with that is, well, now these factories or these businesses

497
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: that are importing and selling can make a profit. Well,

498
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: now it's you must be greedy. So we'll just take

499
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: over your factory and the government will run it. This

500
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: is Chavez did this, Venduro did this. That's really getting

501
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: closer to true socialism, which is government control of the

502
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: means of production as well as the distribution of goods.

503
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: You don't have this in Denmark, in Sweden, in Norway,

504
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: in fact, in those countries, not only do you have

505
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: a very high tax burden on all citizens everybody. You

506
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: also have a pretty les a fair economy when it

507
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: comes to businesses, meaning that they're allowed to operate in

508
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: ways that are very free market based. They have to

509
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: pay high taxes, but they are allowed to innovate, they

510
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: are allowed to operate with less regulation even than our

511
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: own economy. I know, people, and look, there are differences

512
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: between Norway, Sweden, and Denmark were throwing them all in.

513
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: I know this is true of Denmark and anybody who

514
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: spends any time studying their economy. So if we're going

515
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: to make an apples to apples comparison about different components

516
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: of an economy today, let's do that. Let's see what

517
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: went wrong in Venezuela, because there are lessons for our

518
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: own economy. And it's not enough to just say, well,

519
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: they did socialism badly. Sweden does socialism right? Well, how

520
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: does Sweden do it right? If you even believe that,

521
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: how do Sweden provide social services in the way that

522
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: it does that are as effective as it does? And

523
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: what did Venezuela do wrong? And what you find is

524
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: that the American left, we already are much closer to

525
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: Sweden and much closer to Norway than the Libs are

526
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: willing to admit. We already have fifty percent of healthcare spending, folks,

527
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: fifty percent when you add Medicare and Medicaid and all

528
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: these other and the VA and all these other programs,

529
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: is government spending. So when we talk about Medicare for all,

530
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the amount of money

531
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: that's already going through the system, the government plays a

532
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: huge role in that. It's government spending. And they're really

533
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: just talking about closing it up all together and making

534
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: the government a charge of all of it, going to

535
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: a single payer system. But we're pretty close to that

536
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: as it is, and we have healthcare costs spiraling out

537
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: of control and delivery of services feels like it's getting

538
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: worse and slower, at least to me, in the last

539
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: five years. I do think that I think the healthcare

540
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: system has gotten worse in the last five years, and

541
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: that's just from my own experience in it, in dealing

542
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: with it. And they could tell me Obamacare has made

543
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: it better. I don't believe they, being Democrats, I don't

544
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: believe them. And I could point to all the different studies,

545
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: in all the different ways that they're wrong, But for them,

546
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: it's really more about what they view as fair to

547
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: borrow from Bernie Sands, it's about pana facie. So they

548
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: want people to do what is fair, not necessarily what

549
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: is most efficient, what is the smartest, what is the

550
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: best thing for our economy? And this is why the

551
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Venezuela example right now, and that's why Trump is focusing

552
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: in on it. Yes, I think he's going to get

553
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: a foreign policy win in dealing with Venezuela. That's a

554
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: part of this, no question about it. But I also

555
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: think that by highlighting Venezuela and what has happened there,

556
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: it shows us it is a cautionary tale for a

557
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: government that had the best intentions or at least use

558
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: the kind of he eric that would appeal to a

559
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders rally. And this is why there's some Bernie bros.

560
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Out there. The only people you see who are defending

561
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: Maduro is the far left in this country. The only

562
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: people who say that we shouldn't meddle, we shouldn't be

563
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: involved in this at all that I see at least

564
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: are far left Democrats because they have a kind of

565
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: fellow traveler sympathy for the efforts of the Chavista revolution

566
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: and how it has now been taken on by Maduro.

567
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: They feel like they're trying. They tried really hard to

568
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: make it better. They just failed. But there's a sympathy

569
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: on the left for this because the idea of an

570
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: economy that is too stratified, the elites getting richer and

571
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: doing better all the time, and the and the working

572
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: class just getting the raw into this deal and all

573
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: this this is right out of the social justice playbook

574
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: in this country. And so this is why there's also

575
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: much less talking the press about how people are starving

576
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: right now in Venezuela and it's a catastrophe, it's a

577
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: failed state, and yet not nearly as much focus on

578
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: this as, for example, the media's outrage over Jesse Smollett,

579
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: which we're going to follow up and talk more about

580
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: later on in this show. So stay right there, team,

581
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: we'll be back. Team. I like to bring you perspectives

582
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: from people who actually understand what's going on at the border,

583
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: and that sometimes involves actually going to the border. We

584
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: have somebody who's been doing some great work all this

585
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: issue for quite a while. John Davidson of the Federalist

586
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: joins US now. He's a senior correspondent for the Federalist.

587
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: He has an excellent piece why a wall alone can't

588
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: fix the emergency on the US border. He was just

589
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: down in El Paso, Texas looking at this issue last week. John,

590
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for making the time for us. Thanks

591
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: for having me. All right, So tell me what you know.

592
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: Anybody who I think understands the borders, who knows that

593
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: a wall is it is not a panacea. It is

594
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: a piece in a larger puzzle. And your written piece

595
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: here you identify what else needs to be done, what

596
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the problem set looks like. Here, tell

597
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: me a bit about what's going on with migrants and

598
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: families that are coming to claim asylum and their view

599
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: of the border right now. Sure, the simplest way to

600
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: put it is that we don't have a border crisis

601
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: or a border security crisis. We have an asylum crisis.

602
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: So the vast majority of the problems coming from the

603
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: border right now, besides the problems of drugs and cartel activity,

604
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: which has been going on for years and years. But

605
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: what's new is the Central American families and unaccompanied miners

606
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: that are showing up and turning themselves in to the

607
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: border patrol and claiming asylum. There's no amount of border security,

608
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: of border fencing, of more border patrol agents, of technology

609
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: that can style that because it's not a problem with

610
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: our physical infrastructure, our physical security. It's a problem with

611
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: our policy infrastructure. It is a problem with our laws

612
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: because when these families and unaccompanied minors show up on

613
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: the south side of a border fence and turn themselves

614
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: into the border patrol, it's not a security question. The

615
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: wall is not stopping them from doing that. And I

616
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: think that's what gets lost in our debate. A lot

617
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: of times people think on the right, a lot of

618
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: people think, well, we need more more physical barriers, we

619
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: need more at border security and border agents, so that

620
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: we may need those things, but we don't need those

621
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: things to stop people who are coming here to claim asylum. One.

622
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: I've actually done the exercise John of speaking to senior

623
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: people in Immigrations and Customs enforcement and saying, Okay, let's

624
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: let's do this thought experiment. I show up at the border,

625
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: I say the following, and my intention is to stay

626
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: in the United States, and I go through this process.

627
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: If I have base acknowledge of what the process is

628
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: and I say the right things, What are the chances

629
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: that I will be released without without any meaningful monitoring

630
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: or accountability in the United States right now? And they've

631
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: told me it's one hundred percent, which I think people

632
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: need to understand that if people show up as a

633
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: family unit at the border and they understand, as you

634
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: point out, the legalities of the system right now, they

635
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: have a sure shot of being released in the US

636
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: interior unless they have a criminal record or a known

637
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: cartel member or something. That's right. That's right. And the

638
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: people who do have criminal records and know that that's

639
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: not going to work for them, those are the people

640
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: who are crossing trying to cross the border without being detected.

641
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: But that's a very small number compared to the people

642
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: who are crossing the border who want to be detected.

643
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: And here's another thing to keep in mind. But I

644
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: don't know that a lot of Americans who haven't been

645
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: to the border realized this. The border walls, the fencing

646
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: is not on the border. It's entirely withinside the United States.

647
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: It's on US soil. So the northern side of the

648
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: fences on US soil, on the southern side of the

649
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: fences on the US soil. And that's for very practical reasons.

650
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: Border patrol agents have to be able to access both sides.

651
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Oftentimes they set atop of levy. They need to be

652
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: able to clear debris and do maintenance. So the fences

653
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: on US soil. So if you show up on the

654
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: south side of the fence, you've already entered illegally into

655
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: the United States. Okay, you already here, and you're going

656
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: to be taken into custody. If you have children with

657
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: you and you know what to say, you're absolutely right,

658
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: and the Border patrol people you spoke with are absolutely right.

659
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: It's almost certain you're going to be released after a

660
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: few days, with an appointment to appear before an immigration judge,

661
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: maybe an ankle monitor around your ankle, and then sent

662
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: off to go wherever it is that you're going to.

663
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: And I have to tell you as well, every single

664
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: adult I've talked to you on the border who's crossed

665
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: in has a place they're going somewhere in the United States.

666
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: It could be they're going to all points in the

667
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: United States. They know people that have networks in place.

668
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: Some people already have jobs lined up. And if you

669
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: talk to them long enough, they'll tell you that they're

670
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: coming here to work and send money home to the

671
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: rest of their family that's back in Central America. Which right,

672
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: and I always try to tell everyone will listen. This

673
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: doesn't make anybody a bad person, but it does mean

674
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: that the immigration laws that we have are being exploited.

675
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: Because asylum is supposed to be for people that cannot

676
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: be in their home country because they're likely to be

677
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: tortured and or killed. It's not I want a better job,

678
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: because if it's I want a better job, then we

679
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: effectively have open borders. Now now, yeah, absolutely right. You

680
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: can hardly blame these people for trying to get into

681
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: the United States. They're trying to do right by their children.

682
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: They're trying to get ahead. If I were in their position,

683
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: I would probably do the same. And if I knew

684
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: that there were holes in the immigration an asylum system

685
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: that could be exploited, I would probably exploit them. I

686
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: think it's important to note that the countries they're coming from, Honduras,

687
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: El Salvado or Guatemala are often dangerous places. They're impoverished,

688
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: But very few of these people are going to meet

689
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: the definition of a political asylum, political assilee or a

690
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: resugee that we have in US law, and the vast

691
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: majority of them do not get asylum status. If you

692
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: look at the rates at which asylum is granted to

693
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: its people in this country, it's a small number. But nevertheless,

694
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: they know if they claim a credible fear and if

695
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: they begin the asylum proceedings, and they can get into

696
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: the country and be released on their own recognisance. And

697
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in mass and it's tying up all

698
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: the time and resources of the border patrol agents all

699
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: along the US Texas border. Pretty much all they do

700
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: now is pick large groups of people up and transport

701
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: them and process them, and all the other things the

702
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: border patrol is supposed to be doing fall by the wayside.

703
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: We're speaking of John Davidson. He's a senior correspondent for

704
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: The Federalist. Tell me about the part of your piece

705
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: for you where you get into the dangers here, because

706
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I think that that's all been overlooked by much of

707
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: the media that just finds the whole crossing process. I

708
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: think a lot of people in the press are just

709
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: favorable to people coming into the country using the asylum laws.

710
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: However they can. I think that they don't see anything

711
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: bothersome about this. But even if one takes the position

712
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: that we should just let in whoever wants to come in,

713
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: there are risks with the system right now. Safety risks,

714
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: that's right. There's significant safety risks to traveling over the

715
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: border with children, you know, and some of these are

716
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: small children as well, toddlers. Even I saw a number

717
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: of people with toddlers with four or five six year

718
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: old kids, and then teenagers who are traveling by themselves,

719
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: and it is dangerous, especially the farther you get from

720
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: urban centers and populated areas. And what they are finding

721
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: now are that some of the most remote border stations

722
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: out in the New Mexico Boothill are having these very

723
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: large groups. In some cases, hundreds of people emerge from

724
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: the desert and turn themselves in mass into border patrol

725
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: forward operating basis that may only have four or five

726
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: border agents on hand. Well, that presents a huge logistical

727
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: challenge for those agents, in part because they have to

728
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: assess the condition of hundreds of people that have just

729
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: shown up in the middle of the night, in the

730
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: middle of the desert, when it's in the forties or

731
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: in the thirties. It's very cold. They have no idea

732
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: how long these people have been traveling for, they have

733
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: no idea what condition they're in. And then they have

734
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: to wait hours and hours to get transport out there,

735
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: to transport them to facilities that can process them, that

736
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: can house them, that can feed them and assess their

737
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: medical needs. And this is why we had two children

738
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: die in December who showed up at remote New Mexico

739
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: border patrol stations. You know, by the time they realized

740
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: something was wrong, it was too late, you know. And

741
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: again I think this comes from a lack of understanding

742
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: what the borders actually like. It's very remote in places,

743
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: that's very dangerous walking across miles of desert for days,

744
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: sometimes weeks. These people have been traveling and showing up

745
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night is a dangerous thing

746
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: to subject children to. And it's a wonder we haven't

747
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: had more tragedies on the border than we have given

748
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: the volume of people they're showing up. Now, speak to

749
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: me about how the Mexican drug cartels play into the

750
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: play into this whole situation and the human smuggling component. Yeah,

751
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times that's something that Americans don't connect.

752
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: The entire cross border migrant phenomenon is being directed and

753
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: controlled and profited off of by Mexican drug cartels. The

754
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: cartels are not really drug cartels anymore. They are highly

755
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: sophisticated international criminal organizations with unlimited resources at their disposal,

756
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: and they have figured out a way over the past

757
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: decade or so to monetize illegal immigration and human smuggling.

758
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: So every person who crosses the border, whether it's an

759
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: adult or a teenager or a child, has to pay

760
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money, anywhere from two to six

761
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: or seven thousand dollars. Now, when you have thousands of

762
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: people coming across the border every day, last Monday, we

763
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: had eighteen one hundred people cross and turn themselves in,

764
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: traveling in family units. Every single one of those people

765
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: paid between two and six thousand dollars a person. Let's

766
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: say the average was four thousand dollars. Well, that's more

767
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: than seven million dollars that went into smugglers hands just

768
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: last Monday. That is all money that is controlled and

769
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: funneled into the drug cartels that are profiting off of

770
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: this cross border traffic and facilitating it and encouraging it.

771
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: It's actually a lot easier away for them to make

772
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: money than trafficking drugs, and they're engaging in it for

773
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: the same reason. It's profit and there's a lot of

774
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: profit to be made. I really also thought it was

775
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: important for context here the quote in your piece of

776
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: that according to the DA the financial resources of the

777
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: four cartels put together, if they were a country, the

778
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: financial resources of the four Mexican drug cartels would be

779
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: one of the top ten richest countries in the world. Yeah,

780
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: that's amazingactly, and I don't think people quite realize that.

781
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: You know, we're not the only actors on the border.

782
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: We have border patrol agents, we have customs and border

783
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: protection officers. In some places, we have you know, the

784
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: US Army, we have local law enforcement. But on the

785
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: south side of the border, you have profit driven organizations

786
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: that have enormous incentives to get people up to and

787
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: across the border and to get illegal drugs across the border.

788
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: And they are very sophisticated. They are have twenty four

789
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: to seven operations all up and down the border, and

790
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: not just on the south side of the border. They

791
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: have networks and people on the north side of the

792
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: border and all throughout the United States. And I think

793
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: that you can't think about and talk about and debate

794
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: the migrant crisis problem without talking about the role of

795
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: the cartels, and very few media outlets will leave it

796
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: acknowledge that the cartels are playing a role. John, before

797
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: I let you go, I know this is quite a

798
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: thing to drop at the end of interview. But how

799
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: do we fix this? Well, I think we have to

800
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: stop focusing on a border wall, and we need to

801
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 1: start looking at how we fix our asylum laws, how

802
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: we streamline our asylum and immigration laws, and how we

803
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: kind of rationalize them and tailor them to fit the

804
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: challenges that we're actually facing. I agree that we need

805
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: more border security in some places to stop illegal drugs

806
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: and to stop people coming in who are trying to

807
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: evade border patrol. But the crisis is really about these

808
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: families that are turning themselves in in mass and a

809
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: wall is not going to fix that. We need book

810
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: and it's going to be I mean for this year,

811
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: based on the numbers I'm saying, we're talking about hundreds

812
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: of thousands of people. Yeah, that's right. This year. If

813
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: if this keeps going the way it's been going the

814
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: first couple of months of the year. This year will

815
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: be by far the biggest year for families and teenagers

816
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: turning themselves in. Yeah, everybody, this problem is only going

817
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: to keep getting bigger and bigger, so we're gonna keep

818
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: following it. John Davidson, Man, great work. Really appreciated your peace.

819
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: Everyone should go read it on the Federalist dot com. John,

820
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Man, Come back anytime. Thanks for having

821
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: me team. We'll be right back. AARP is a well

822
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: known organization for seniors, but what's not nearly as well

823
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: known is that it's pretty left wing. And do you

824
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: want to belong to a progressive organization that fought tooth

825
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: and nail for a government run healthcare system and that

826
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: scripted portions of White House speech is behind closed doors

827
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: under the Obama administration to help the passage of Obamacare. No,

828
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: that's why you want amac. AMAC was founded by an

829
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: Air Force veteran and is all all about getting you

830
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: value and discounts while also supporting what you care about.

831
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: Making this country safe for future generations when it comes

832
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: to our entitlement programs, when it comes to border protection,

833
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: when it comes to our economy, that's what you believe,

834
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: and that's what AMAC believes. And stand with AMAC as

835
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: they fight the good fight. Join right now at AMAC

836
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: dot us slash buck. That's AMAC dot us slash buck.

837
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: AMAC is better, better for you, better for America. That

838
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: was on the president's mind. Then the President made those

839
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: public comments that you've referenced both on NBC and to

840
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: the Russians, which has captured in the Oval Office. Put together,

841
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: these circumstances were artakable facts that indicated that a crime

842
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: may have been committed. President may have been engaged in

843
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: obstruction of justice in the firing of Jim Comey. I

844
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: don't believe there is a crisis of confidence in the

845
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: leadership of the FBI. I suppose there's somewhat self serving,

846
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: and I apologize for that. You know, it was completely

847
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: within the President's authority to take the steps that he did.

848
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: We all understand that McCabe is very shady, folks. The

849
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: more he goes on this book tour, the former acting

850
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: FBI director, the more we see a slimy self dealing

851
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: deep stater in action and it doesn't hold up. It

852
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. I'm not surprised that this guy is

853
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: facing federal charges for lying to his own home agency

854
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: to the Bureau, because this stuff does this stuff does

855
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: not add up. I mean. He was also asked about

856
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: whether or not, or rather, why is it that his

857
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: firing or the firing rather of Komi. Why is it

858
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: that Rowenstein, for example, was part of this. Rosenstein was

859
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: part of firing Komy. But then McCabe and Rosenstein and

860
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: all these other guys are completely freaked out when Komy

861
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: gets fired. Rosenstein wrote a letter to get Komy fired.

862
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Just does anyone want to dig in on this a

863
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: little bit? Also on the issue of sourcing, And this

864
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: is what I was thinking about a moment ago. McCabe

865
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: was asked today. I think it was on the view

866
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: about whether he had ever been a source for The

867
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: New York Times on any of these things. And you know,

868
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: he was pushed on this issue. And the problem is

869
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: that Komy has already said that he never authorized anyone.

870
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: Comey said he never authorized any to be a source

871
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: on these issues to the press. McCabe says that he

872
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: is authorized to interact with the press, and when pushed

873
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: on that, McCabe says, well, I don't know why Komy's

874
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: recollection is different from mine. This is what he said.

875
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know why we have a different recollection.

876
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: And he was under a lot of stress, and he

877
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: was really tired and had a lot going on at

878
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: the time. Now, to anybody listening, this should be a

879
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: slap in the face because we've seen that the FBI,

880
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: the Special Counsel, they don't make allowances for I was

881
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: really tired. They don't make allowances for you know, I

882
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: had a lot going on, and I told you the

883
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: wrong thing. No, what happened. What happened was you got prosecuted.

884
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: Right if you said something that was untrue, that was

885
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: or the facts were contradictory to your recollection. If you're

886
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: a papadopolis, if you're any of these guys, you go

887
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: to prison, they prosecute you. So why should the standard

888
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: for the people making those decisions be different. Why should

889
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: we accept that McCabe and Komy and others should be

890
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: allowed to throw everyday citizens, normal folks in prison for

891
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: being tired and misremembering. You know, and where are all

892
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: the truth the truth sleuths out there that we've been

893
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 1: hearing from. Oh, you know, why did this Trump person lie?

894
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Why did that Trump person lie, you know, why did

895
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Roger Stone or why did General Flynn or Papadappas they

896
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: get on these guys, And I keep saying, first of all,

897
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you're talking without a lawyer present to

898
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: any of these FBI guys and they want to jam

899
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: you up, they can. They'll find a way. That's their job,

900
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: that's what they do. So start with that. And then, well,

901
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: when you're doing interrogation for hours at a time and

902
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: there are people that are trying to trip you up

903
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: and trying to get you to lie about something unimportant

904
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: that you may legitimately misremember, and then aren't going to

905
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: give you the benefit of the doubt, Guess what, It's

906
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: not hard to prosecute you for lying. But why McCabe

907
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: and Comey should escape that same standard of justice. I

908
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: would like someone to try and explain that one. I

909
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: would like someone to take the position that there isn't

910
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: an obvious double standard at work here, because there is.

911
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: Because there was rot. There was an infestation of a

912
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: status bureaucrat mentality at the very top of the FBI

913
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: and the DOJ. They viewed Trump as a threat to

914
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: the established order, and they thought of themselves as the mandarins,

915
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, as the big important cogs in the bureaucratic machine.

916
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: They viewed themselves as the guaranteurs of that machinery, and

917
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: Trump was a threat to it, so they tried to

918
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: take them out. We got more on this coming up.

919
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: The purpose of the briefing was to let our congressional

920
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: leadership know exactly what we've been doing opening a case

921
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: of this nature, not something that an FBI director, not

922
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: something that an acting FBI director do by yourself. Did

923
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: anyone object? That's the important part here, Savannah. No one objected,

924
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: not on legal grounds, not on constitutional grounds, and not

925
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: based on the fact well that's insane. So McCabe in

926
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: his tour, which a lot of people are pointing out,

927
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: seems to be in some way an effort to avoid

928
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: prosecution himself, because he's just getting as much of the

929
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: anti Trump sympathy lined up as he possibly can. Right,

930
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: and if he gets enough people to come along and say, well,

931
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he made some mistakes, but the real

932
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: problem is that evil Donald Trump, then he thinks that

933
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: he'll escape the prosecution that he so clearly deserves. I mean,

934
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: he lied, he lied under oath about a matter of

935
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: importance to the government. That is what the statute says.

936
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: And he's put a lot of people in prison for

937
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: doing just that. So if other people go to prison

938
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: for you know, if other people go to prison for this,

939
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: he should go to prison for this. But McCabe is

940
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: out there trying to do his very best to throw

941
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: up all these different smoke screens. But there he was

942
00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: talking to Savannah Guthrie about how when he told congress

943
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: national leadership that there was a Trump probe, none of them,

944
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: none of them had an issue with it. Well, that

945
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: just shows what a bunch of deferential whimps we're talking

946
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: about here. That just shows that the Gang of eight, right,

947
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: the congressional leadership that people preferred to, was the gang

948
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: of eight. We're willing to let the FBI run in

949
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: operation that should have had far higher bars to clear.

950
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this is insane. The whole thing is just nuts,

951
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: just incredible. And you know when you look at it

952
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: now and you say to yourself, well, hold on, how

953
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: do they justify this along the way McCabe claims in

954
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: this past week, McCabe claims that, yeah, you know, we

955
00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: did this because of Coomy getting fired. But the robe

956
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: was opened long before then. And hold on a second,

957
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: I thought the probe was about Russia Trump collusion. Now

958
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: they're saying it's about Comy getting fired. But the Trump

959
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: Russia collusion had started, not the Mueller Special Council, but

960
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: the investigation into Trump started months and months and months

961
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: before that. The timeline does not add up. McCabe is lying.

962
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: There are some instances you can point to you where

963
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: either McCabe or Comy is lying, either McCabe or Rosenstein

964
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: is lying, or maybe all of them are lying. But

965
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: these are people that are supposed to be held to

966
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: the very highest standard of veracity. These are individuals that

967
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: have had a lot of government power and prosecutorial investigative power,

968
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: depending on whether they're on the FBI or DJ side,

969
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: and we cannot make allowances for their political score settling.

970
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Unacceptable, absolutely unacceptable. McCabe is not doing himself,

971
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: in my view, not doing himself any favors. He is

972
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: making a lot of mistakes out there right now, and

973
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: he just looks like a like a surly, slimy, dishonest

974
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: Washington insider in this whole process. And people can tell me, oh,

975
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: you know this person, you know worked for decades and

976
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: was a good public servant. You know who els worked

977
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: for decades was a public servant, Aldred James until he

978
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: wasn't anymore. Now, I'm not saying that McCabe as a trader,

979
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: but just enough of this. Well, this person worked in

980
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: the government for a long time. Guess what. A lot

981
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: of people work for the government a long time, in fact,

982
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: millions of them. So the I worked in the government

983
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 1: for a long time thing is not enough to give

984
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: you the ability to operate under a separate set of laws.

985
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's not enough for you to just say, well,

986
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, I tried really hard on all this other stuff,

987
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to be held responsible here. McCabe

988
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: is also making claims that are just are just flatly untrue.

989
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: So even if there's not going to be any legal

990
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: ramifications for that, you know, he's out there on this

991
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: book tour. The threat, by the way, not very subtle,

992
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: is he. And it's it's perfectly lined up here. You know,

993
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: Comy's whole higher loyalty. I'm James Comey and I just

994
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: love America more than everybody. That's why James Comy has

995
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: to be at the center of every major political investigation

996
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: because he loves America so much. Please. And then with McCabe,

997
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: it's the threat, yes, because we all know that Donald

998
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: Trump is the threat. How zactly is he a threat?

999
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: What's the terrible thing that he's done? Why are we

1000
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: supposed to think that all this investigation of Donald Trump

1001
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: was justified based on what? They don't answer this question.

1002
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: They never have an answer for this question. But that's

1003
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: because they're lying. Here here McCabe talked about how he's

1004
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: filing a lawsuit about his very richly deserved firing. Here's

1005
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: what he said, Plate twelve. I was fired because I

1006
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: opened a case against the President of the United States.

1007
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: I read the Inspector General's report that suggests the Inspector

1008
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: General is in on it and firing you for a

1009
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: basically making up a pretext to fire you. Is that

1010
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: what you're suggesting? Here's what I can tell you. I

1011
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: read that report very closely myself. I've been writing and

1012
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: reading investigative reports for over twenty years, and that report

1013
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: was not like anything I have ever read before. An

1014
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: investigative report includes all of the evidence. It includes all

1015
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: of the information, not just those facts that support the

1016
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: conclusion that you'd like to draw. So I have big

1017
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: problems with that report. I disagree with the conclusions they drew,

1018
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: and that is something that I'll be raising in a

1019
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: civil lawsuit that I'll be bringing against the Department of Justice.

1020
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: So I just need to get this straight. When McCabe,

1021
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: when Comy and McCabe want the FBI to be perfect

1022
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: and beyond reproach and a wonderful institution, and no one's

1023
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: allowed to criticize it, which is to accept that. But

1024
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: when the FBI's own internal processes finds that McCabe should

1025
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: be fired, and fired right before I think twenty four

1026
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: hours before he could have qualified for his pension, then

1027
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: the FBI is subject to criticism. Then we can all

1028
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: look at the FBI and say, well, hold on a minute,

1029
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: maybe there's something else going on here. I'm sorry, but

1030
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:30,959
Speaker 1: just doesn't wash that dog won't hunt. This is not

1031
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: based on an objective view of the circumstances. This is

1032
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: McCabe changing the narrative as fits his own needs about

1033
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: the FBI, about the Inspector General, about the Russia Trump

1034
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: collusion probe, about all of it, all of it. These

1035
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: were bad actors, and we see this now, bad actors

1036
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: in the FBI, bad actors in the DJ. You know,

1037
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: the left used to have a whole vendetta against law enforcement.

1038
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: You know, j Erica Hoover was this boogeyman, and the

1039
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: CIA and the Church Commission and all these different things

1040
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: that you learn in you know, vox dot com training programs.

1041
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: You know, this is what you learn if you're going

1042
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: to be an MSNBC host. The only history of America

1043
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: that you're allowed to know if you work at MSNBC

1044
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: for the past, you know, fifty years is Watergates, Iran Contra,

1045
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: and you know things like the Church Committee, here is

1046
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: the CIA, and that the FBI was bad. I mean

1047
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: that that's really the only stuff, other than the social

1048
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: justice stuff that you're allowed to know about American history.

1049
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: So the left used to have all these criticisms of

1050
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: the FBI and the CIA, the intelligence community. I worked

1051
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: in the intelligence community. I was a CIA analyst in

1052
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: the Iraq Office, So I have a particular sensitivity to Oh,

1053
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: lawmakers will just dump on us as though you know

1054
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: all of us who worked there, and I'd enjoy it

1055
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: until after the Iraq War started. So I definitely can't

1056
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: have any responsibility for that, But all of us who

1057
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: worked there don't know anything or jerks or clowns though

1058
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: you know they were doing that. Pelosi and company were

1059
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: saying the CIA was engaged in torture, that people should

1060
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: be prosecuted for this. But now John Brennan, Comy McCabe,

1061
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: all of them are our heroes to the left because

1062
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: they've been very useful modes of attack against Trump. That's it,

1063
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: and that's all you really have to be. And I

1064
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: just think that McCabe, he's showing us exactly who he

1065
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: is in this whole process, which is somebody who it's frightened.

1066
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: We should all be frightened that McCabe was in the

1067
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: positions of authority that he was in for as long

1068
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: as he was. That this was a guy who was

1069
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: making decisions that ruined people's lives. You know, his discretion

1070
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: during investigations, his discretion about reports as an FBI agent

1071
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: making his way up the ranks. This is not somebody

1072
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: that I think was fair in his outlook, based on

1073
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: the way he's conducted himself once he got into the

1074
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: upper reaches of powers. So I'd be very concerned about

1075
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: this individual, and I'd be very concerned about the Democrats

1076
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: being crazy as well. Here is Congressman I've never heard

1077
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: of this guy before, Garamendi, who is just just losing

1078
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: his mind over the threat. Remember the book that McCabe

1079
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: wrote is the Threat. Now we're for us to think

1080
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: that Trump is a threat. Yeah, he's a threat to

1081
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: socialism and the CNN clowns. He's not a real threat

1082
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: to anything that's important. Plick looked forward. I think that

1083
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: what we have here as a president is totally out

1084
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: of control. He doesn't want to listen to his intelligence

1085
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: community at all. He'd rather listen to Putin. That was

1086
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: part of what was in the McCabe interview, and it

1087
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: appears to be over and over again that he's more,

1088
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: when more than willing to listen to Putin and the

1089
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: Russians than he is to his own intelligence people. It

1090
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: is an extraordinarily serious problem of national security when the

1091
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: president refuses to accept the information from the intelligence community.

1092
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: We just have to hope and pray that nothing serious

1093
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: is going to take place. I don't know, I just

1094
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: take a deep breath and pray, because this man is

1095
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: totally out of control and putting our nation in serious jeopardy.

1096
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: How in what way this Democrat congressman is a loon,

1097
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: a loon totally out of control because because of what

1098
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: what has he done that's out of control? What has

1099
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: he done that we're all supposed to be so worried about.

1100
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: They they're such they're in such hysterics all the time.

1101
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: The amount of the world is ending pearl clutching from Democrats.

1102
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm becoming immune to it. I can't even

1103
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: I can't even bring myself to want to spend time

1104
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: ridiculing it the way I used to, because it's just

1105
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: so ridiculous. Nobody who's been paying attention to want to

1106
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: take any of this seriously. Nobody who has been operating

1107
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: from a perspective of trying to get to the truth

1108
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 1: would listen to these people and say, yeay, they sound

1109
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: like they're given the president a fair shake. We're extraordinarily

1110
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: serious problem not security, because McCabe says that Trump believe

1111
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: who believes McCay. McCabe's a known liar and he's trying

1112
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: to trash the president with everything he's got. He has

1113
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: a personal vendetta. He says that the President mocked his wife.

1114
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: He has a personal vendetta against his president. We're supposed

1115
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: to take this guy's word for it. I'm not taking

1116
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: this word for it, buddy, buddy with Comy, I don't

1117
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: think Comy's word for it. Any of these guys, I

1118
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,959
Speaker 1: don't think any of their word for it, because they've

1119
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: shown themselves to be dirty political insiders. They've shown themselves

1120
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: to be people that are a part is an agenda

1121
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: in this whole process. So you know, the the McCabe

1122
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: cheerleading section is a bunch of whackados. All right. So

1123
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: what is going on right now at the White House?

1124
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of activity with this administration, a lot

1125
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: of major policy discussions still underway in the aftermath of

1126
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: the declaration of a national emergency. Our man Sager and

1127
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: Jetty is in the House, the White House, that is,

1128
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: that's right. He is the Daily Callers White House correspondent,

1129
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: and he joins us now from the House itself. Mister Sager,

1130
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: great to have you back, Hey, thanks for having me

1131
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: a book. All right. So you were in the press spray,

1132
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 1: which is insider lingo for a bunch of reporters getting

1133
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: to be inside the oval. Right, So you were there

1134
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: with the man himself just just before coming on air here,

1135
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about what's going on with

1136
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: the with the Trumpster, with the administration, or everything going

1137
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: everything going on the White House? Yeah, that's right. Book,

1138
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: basically you can be president. Had a bunch of comments today.

1139
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: The most surprising was, even though he was signing something

1140
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: that was on the Space Policy Directive, he held his

1141
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: fire on Bernie Sanders. He actually said that he likes

1142
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. You know that he welcomed his presidential run,

1143
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: and he didn't seem particularly phased by it because he

1144
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: said that, you know, there's a lot of people running,

1145
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: but only one person is going to win, and he said,

1146
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: I think you all know who that will be. He

1147
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: also made a little he talked a little bit about

1148
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: that lawsuit of that California and a bunch of other

1149
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: states are filing against the president of the National Emergency Declaration,

1150
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: and he said that overall he wasn't particularly worried and

1151
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: he thought even in the ninth circuit that he might

1152
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: prevail there. Wow, look at that. Trump has got quite

1153
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: a bit of optimism, Sager, But that's that's not at

1154
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: all surprising. What's the vibe you're getting from the White

1155
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: House in terms of how the whole speech over the

1156
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: weekend was received, well, overall, the White House is mostly

1157
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: just happy to put this matter to bed. You know,

1158
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: they had a shutdown for thirty five days that exhausted

1159
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: pretty much everybody here. Then we had three weeks of negotiations.

1160
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: Things didn't exactly go their way in this negotiation. So

1161
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: what they're mostly happy in this point is they got

1162
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: their National emergency declaration. They're looking at this as a

1163
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: as a minor victory because at least they can tap

1164
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: sources of funding without that won't be tied up in

1165
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: court because I think approximately five billion dollars of the

1166
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars it's available to them is available without

1167
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: the National emergency. So you know, they think that they

1168
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: can begin construction on the wall and they can do

1169
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: that as soon as soon as they need to, even

1170
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: with court challenges. Do you get any sense of what

1171
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people are, Okay, so

1172
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: we've been through this whole wall fight, we got funding

1173
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 1: now declared an emergency. Why aren't there shovels and jackhammers

1174
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: and earthmovers, oh my going on right now at the border. Well,

1175
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: what they're with the White House would say, is that

1176
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: our US Army Corps of Engineers is already in discussions

1177
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: here is the contracts are being being distributed out. But

1178
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: you're right, it is a lengthy and it's a long process.

1179
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: There's some texts written into those bills, which don't you know,

1180
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: which gives some of the towns involved the ability to

1181
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: hold up construction on these walls. So it's it's there's

1182
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: a lot of different moving parts, and it's basically any

1183
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: regular government operation anything else going on White House world Saga.

1184
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: The folks listening across the country should be aware of

1185
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: things that are on the horizon. Anything that you think

1186
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 1: that we're going to be hearing from the President himself

1187
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: on in the next few days that we should be

1188
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: aware of. Well, you know what's what The major thing

1189
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: that this building is focused on right now is the

1190
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: upcoming summit with Chairman Kim Jongoon and Hanoi next week.

1191
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: That's all eyes are looking on that. The President himself

1192
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: began his discussion today when we're talking about we're talking

1193
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: about Kim Jong un and the expectations for the summit.

1194
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: So that is the main priority. That's the main thing

1195
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: that everybody's focused on. That's obviously one of those things

1196
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: where the whole world kind of holds its breath and

1197
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: watches is such an extraordinary thing happens? Saga and Jet

1198
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: everybody calling us in from the White House. He is

1199
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: the daily Callers White House correspondent and Sager just just

1200
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: so we know, do you do you ever like get

1201
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: to hang with Jim Acosta? Like, do you guys you know,

1202
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: ever ever share pencils or anything? What? What's the what's

1203
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: the spree of corelike over there these days the White House?

1204
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: For the people in the pool, you know, I would

1205
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: tell you it's it's chilly, but there's a level of

1206
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: personal respect that that happens there. You know, we stand

1207
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: next to each other from time to time before we

1208
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: go into two events, exchange pleasantries. That's uh, that's that's

1209
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: as far as we can take it. So he can

1210
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,839
Speaker 1: be pleasant. Okay, that's good to know. Is there anybody

1211
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: who's like the bad boy or the bad girl of

1212
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: the of the White House press pool? You know, give

1213
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: us give us a little insider peak here, Sagar. Oh man,

1214
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: I I if I gave you that, then I don't

1215
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: think I'll get invite into all the fancy parties. So

1216
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: until then, I think I think I'm gonna keep my

1217
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: mouth shut on that. You're you're a smart man with

1218
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: a long and illustrious media career ahead of you. Joan,

1219
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: never let the radio hosts get information you don't want

1220
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: to give. Sager and Jetty, everybody, check out what he's

1221
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: got up on the Daily Caller dot com. Also, you

1222
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter, and you need to figure

1223
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: out how to spell his name. But other than that,

1224
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: it is just like it sounds, Sager and Jetty, mister Sager,

1225
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, my friend always

1226
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: gonna and thank you also for all your work on

1227
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: Rising recently. You've been fantastic. Oh, thank you, Buck, and

1228
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Man. All right, we'll talk

1229
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: to you soon, everybody from the White House. Saga and

1230
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: Jetty given us the up to date. What's what, We'll

1231
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: be right back. There are many indications of a hate

1232
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: crime here. They are looking for two suspects who are

1233
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: apparently wearing Make America Great Again hats, so that has

1234
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: not yet been officially confirmed. We don't know what happened

1235
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: to Jesse, but what we do know is that racism

1236
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: is alive and well in this country. There is real

1237
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: evidence of people who have done these crimes who cite

1238
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: that the president has fire that the fact that reportedly

1239
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: said this is Maga country adds to sort of the

1240
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: the atmosphere of menace that African Americans in particular and

1241
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,879
Speaker 1: people of color in general have felt since the advent

1242
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration, and the media has really cast

1243
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: so much doubt on his story, which I find so

1244
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: personally offensive that a gay black man is targeted and

1245
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: then suddenly he becomes the victim of people's disbelieveing. It's outrageous,

1246
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: outrageous that people would disbelieve somebody lying like this in

1247
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: such obvious and ridiculous fashion. And I do think that

1248
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: there needs to be a reckoning for the media, and

1249
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: it's only going to come if we continue hammer at

1250
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: their biases and just the big this model too, the

1251
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: Jesse small thing shows us, I think, beyond any doubt,

1252
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 1: and you could point to a lot of other circumstances

1253
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: where this is also the case. But they run with

1254
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: the they run with the narrative they like, They drive

1255
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: as much traffic, as many clicks and get as many

1256
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: views as they can, and then they just feel like

1257
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: they'll clean up the mess afterward. They don't seem to

1258
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: understand our national media. I would know Chicago media has

1259
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: acquitted itself well on this whole thing. Local Chicago media,

1260
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: CBS Chicago, they were, oh, I don't know, doing reporting

1261
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: talking to police sources following up on the investigation. It's

1262
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: the national media, the CNNs and the New York Times.

1263
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: And that wasn't the view. What's the like the kind

1264
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: of bootleg version of the view on the other you

1265
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, guys, it's the other show

1266
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: with a bunch of ladies around a table in the

1267
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: middle of the day, the talk. There's a there's an

1268
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: what's the talk? Brandon? No Brandon? Well because the Sharon

1269
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: Osbourne and Osbourne because Ozzie, where are you? Oz see?

1270
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: I got a shit in Osbourne? Right? Kind of good?

1271
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: It's not bad, thank you? Oh see? Does it wan't

1272
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: to watch me on this? Okay? Else? But the the

1273
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: truth is that there's there's that show as well, and

1274
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: I think that's where we played that one clip where

1275
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 1: they're just oh, it's just like terrible. They don't believe

1276
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 1: jose Smollett. It's so upsetting. God, I was obviously a

1277
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: liar I knew he was a liar. That's why, That's

1278
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: why I really dug in here. I know some nights

1279
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: your probably team, you're like, Buck, why are you doing

1280
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: a j Smollett update? And I just wanted to make

1281
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: sure that we all follow this at every step of

1282
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: the way, that we're like, this didn't happen. Another thing

1283
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: to indicate this didn't happen. And and now everyone turns

1284
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: around and says, oh, but but how could we have

1285
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: known it was? It was so credible and believable. Uh,

1286
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: turns out it was neither credible nor believable. And the

1287
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: people that are dumb enough to or rather are so

1288
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: stupid that they can't tell the difference should be held accountable. Oh,

1289
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: speaking of people that, from what we know from the

1290
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: public record, had issues figuring out what's really going on here,

1291
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: we got two Democrat candidates that really waited on this one.

1292
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: We got a little before and after for you of

1293
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: Booker and Harris play clip one and Senator Coy. Booker

1294
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: said the vicious attack when actor Jesse was an attempt

1295
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: at modern day lynching. Kamala Harris calling the attack and

1296
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: attempted modern day lynching, which tweet tweet about saying that

1297
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: it is a modern day lynching. That sorry, jam okay.

1298
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: So I will say this about that case. I think

1299
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: that the facts are still unfolding, and I'm very concerned

1300
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: about act. Well, the information is still coming out, and

1301
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to withhold until all the information actually comes

1302
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: out from on the record source. Is we know in

1303
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: America that diggoted and biased attacks are on the rise. Oh,

1304
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: there we go, transition to the narrative you want after

1305
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: you've already run with a false narrative about this event.

1306
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: I would note that there's more trouble on the horizon

1307
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: for Jesse Smollett. Here this courtesy of The New York Post. Today,

1308
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: the FEDS are probing whether Jesse Smollett was involved in

1309
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: sending a suspicious letter to himself a week before the

1310
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: alleged hate attack in Chicago that has now been called

1311
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:35,480
Speaker 1: into question. The FBI, US Postal Inspection Services are investigating

1312
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: the claim by brothers A. Bimbola and Ali Binjo assundai

1313
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: Ro that Smollett played a role in the letter delivered

1314
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: to Fox's studio in January twenty second. The word mago

1315
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: was written in red letters across the envelope and it

1316
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: had nasty racial slurs and stuff in it. Let me

1317
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 1: just note that if that is true, if he used

1318
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: the male Oh, that's right, then it becomes a federal issue.

1319
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: Jose Smollett did not think this one through. Did not

1320
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: really give this one the attention that it deserved. As

1321
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: somebody who's going to engage in a hoax, you would

1322
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: think that it would be better off for him to

1323
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: at least understand the legal ramifications of what he's doing.

1324
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think he did. I don't think he

1325
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: thought this one through. Meanwhile, said Ed bride Stelter. The

1326
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: job it is, as Dallas said that the videos a

1327
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: great job that I had a show at ceded to

1328
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: talk about. How great, said Ed, is that how I

1329
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: looked like Jeff Ducker, but maybe a few more cheeseburgers

1330
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 1: and play clip three here. About the rush to judge,

1331
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: there was a rush to judgment. I think it was

1332
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: mostly in the celebrity press and among activists and among

1333
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,919
Speaker 1: Twitter people. I think it was a really careful reporting

1334
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: by news organizations, but it all gets lumped in together

1335
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. I'll get slumped together

1336
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: in the minds of many people who now look at

1337
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: this and say what went wrong here? And obviously, at

1338
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: the end of the day, what went wrong is that

1339
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: he may have made it up, and ultimately that's his responsibility.

1340
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: I thank god. The little rug is that Ceded had

1341
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: a lot of news cabbage of this with that thing

1342
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: alleged or that thing that guy. I look at Brian

1343
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: Stelter and I think to myself, anything is possible in

1344
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: this business. You know. I try to take something, I

1345
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: try to take something positive from it. I'm like, oh,

1346
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: if Brian Stelter can have a show on any cable

1347
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: network and be treated with deference and respect throughout the

1348
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: media industry as a result of that, then it must

1349
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: be possible for any of us to get a show

1350
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: on a cable network. So we got that going for us,

1351
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:58,520
Speaker 1: which is nice. But his point here about the reporting

1352
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: on this, I think is is just incorrect. I just

1353
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's wrong, and it's very obvious why.

1354
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look, you will see that there

1355
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: were a lot of not just news stories, but it's

1356
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: the newsroom and then they switch to the analysis. And

1357
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: this is why the bias matters so much. If the

1358
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: Washington Post on the front page, can run Josie Smallett

1359
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: was attacked, and then run seven editorials right next to

1360
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: it about how this is terrible and racist and everything else.

1361
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: They understand the propaganda effect that that's going to have

1362
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: on their audience, and the lack of skepticism from the

1363
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: newsroom then just becomes amplified in all of the analysis

1364
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 1: and perspective and all these different ways of essentially saying

1365
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: punditry without calling it punditry when they're they're openly activists

1366
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: instead of just activists without being honest about that fact.

1367
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: But the show Empire, which I have never seen, by

1368
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: the way, I do not know if it's a good

1369
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: show or not. I know it made a big splash,

1370
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: it had a lot of ratings for a while, But

1371
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: the show Empire is from what I understand, writing him

1372
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: or cutting him out of episodes, they're already so they're

1373
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: getting this is when you start to see what people

1374
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,600
Speaker 1: really think, right when their money and their reputations on

1375
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: the line. Sure, I know that the showrunner for Empire

1376
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,480
Speaker 1: gave some kind of statement of support here for for Smallett,

1377
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: But when when you see the show decide that they're

1378
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: going to cut back on this guy and they're going

1379
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: to take a different approach. Then then it's pretty clear,

1380
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: at least clear to me, that we're talking about somebody

1381
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: who is expected to continue his fall from grace. I

1382
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody believes that there's a what could the

1383
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: explanation be at this point that all the reports from

1384
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: all the police sources were wrong. I mean, think about

1385
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 1: this one. I believe that what we're in the midst

1386
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: of right now is an intentional campaign of delay from

1387
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: not just smaller than his team. That's obvious and that's

1388
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 1: to be expected, but from the press. I think they

1389
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: just want to lay off this for a few days

1390
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: and let some of the heat come out of the topic,

1391
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: let it let it seem a little less ridiculous that

1392
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: they weren't showing the due skepticism that they should have,

1393
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: and then they'll probably in a week say, yeah, it

1394
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: turns out the whole thing was a hoax. Fine, they

1395
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: move on to something else. That's the way they do this.

1396
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, actually buck on this. Yes,

1397
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: there's actually there's two ways this can go. This guy

1398
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: can either come clean or he can dig in and

1399
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: double down and go deeper into it. Which way do

1400
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna go. That's a very interesting question,

1401
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: because what I think he's going to do is try

1402
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: to go somewhere in between where he's gonna just hope

1403
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: that the police aren't going to try to bring charges,

1404
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: the idea of being that they can't prove that what

1405
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: he said is untrue. But because he brought so what

1406
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: I think he'd like to do is say people don't

1407
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: understand my truth and this is a teachable moment, and

1408
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: just protect himself with the social justice jargon and kind

1409
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: of move on. The problem is because he brought other

1410
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: people into this, right, I think that's you know, like

1411
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: I said, if you had just written a swastika on

1412
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: his door, even if nobody believed that, or you go

1413
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: to put a noose on his door, even if nobody

1414
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: had believed that he was really targeted, it's very It

1415
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: would be very hard unless they had video of him,

1416
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: to prove that he did it to himself. This is

1417
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: a different situation. He brought third parties into it, and

1418
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: if they're willing to tell the police under you know,

1419
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: in a scorn statement, that he conspired with them to

1420
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: do this, I think one he I think they're gonna

1421
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: have to bring charges against them. I don't see how

1422
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: they can get around that. So and at that point,

1423
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to plead guilty to avoid the legal punishment.

1424
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: So as much as he'd like to dig in, I mean,

1425
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: I see where you're going with that. I don't know

1426
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: if he's going to have that option, right, yeah, yeah,

1427
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I've been right on this one so far.

1428
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: So we'll see what ends up happening. But the jussee

1429
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Smollett almost certain hoax. Almost there were ninety nine percent

1430
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: sure it's a hoax, folks, right, continue, So we'll have

1431
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: more for you as it goes on. Global Verification Network

1432
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: is the only dual certified veteran owned background investigation and

1433
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: vetting company. And this is a company that is all

1434
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: about making sure that your needs are met in this space.

1435
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: So whatever size company you have, large or small, give

1436
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: Global Verification Network a call. If you have somebody that

1437
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: already does your background checks, see a Global Verification can

1438
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: beat them on price or beat them on the quality

1439
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: of the work that they do. Because I'm telling you,

1440
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: I think they can call eight seven seven six nine

1441
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: five one one seven nine that's eight seven, seven, six nine,

1442
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: five one one seven nine. Make sure you tell them

1443
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: you heard about them on the Buck Sexton Show. Also

1444
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: go to MYGBN dot com if you want to do

1445
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: the online route. That's m y g VN dot com.

1446
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: They are federally certified as a veteran owned small business

1447
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: and no data or client information is ever offshore. It's

1448
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: all done here in the States, unlike a lot of

1449
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: their competitors. So check out Global Verification Network and leave

1450
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: no stone unturned. It's time to get a little conversation

1451
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: going with our friend Rahim Kasam everybody you know him

1452
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: from Raheem Kasam dot com, Fox News, author of the

1453
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: book No Go Zones and general gentlemen about town here

1454
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: in DC. Very plugged in knows what's what mister Raheem.

1455
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Great to have you back, Hey, thanks for having me book.

1456
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: So you brought this story to my attention about Isis

1457
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: brides who want to return to their home countries. And

1458
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: there's hundreds of them right now who are in custody

1459
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: in these Kurdish detention camps in Syria. What's going on here? Yeah,

1460
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: it's been a big story dominating the news cycle in

1461
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: the United Kingdom for the past week, and actually a

1462
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: US version has just popped up today. Also, look the

1463
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: long story short is this a couple of years ago.

1464
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 1: People will remember that there were defectors you might call them,

1465
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: from the United States and the United Kingdom all over

1466
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: European fact, to the Islamic States, to the Isis Caliphate.

1467
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: A lot of those defectors included young women in their

1468
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: mid to late teens that had been lured over there

1469
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: by propaganda videos and who spent the last couple of

1470
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:33,520
Speaker 1: years propagandaizing against the West, calling for attacks on westerners,

1471
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: attacks on the US homeland, attacks on the United Kingdom,

1472
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: and attacks on our soldiers. Now it's not going so well,

1473
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: I would add, in a large part of thanks to

1474
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: the actions of President Trump and this administration. It's not

1475
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: going so well for the Islamic Caliphate. These women having

1476
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: lost a lot of their spouses, and I say a

1477
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: lot of their spouses. Some of them have been married

1478
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: to two or three or four different ISIS fighters over

1479
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Now they want to return

1480
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: to the United States or the United Kingdom. And actually

1481
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: our two different nations are taking two quite different approaches

1482
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 1: to handling these would be returnees. And how so what's

1483
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: the UK doing, what's the US doing? Well, I'm glad

1484
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: you asked. Well, the United Kingdom has effectively said, of

1485
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: this one Shamima Begham that because she is a dual

1486
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: nationality citizen of the United Kingdom and Bangladesh, the Home

1487
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Office in the United Kingdom effectively our sort of Home

1488
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: department in state department, or sort of rolled into one,

1489
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: they have removed her UK citizenship. As of today, she

1490
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: is now no longer the United Kingdom citizen and therefore

1491
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: cannot claim the sanctuary and the United Kingdom cannot claim

1492
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: welfare in the United Kingdom, cannot claim asylum or to

1493
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: return to the United Kingdom. President Trump's administration is taking

1494
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: a different tack on this. What the US is saying

1495
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: is that sure, you can come back, and you will

1496
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: be tried and you will be sent to prison for

1497
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: effectively defecting and fighting for a terrorist organization that was

1498
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: anti anti United States and anti Western And so, you know,

1499
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting the way the way these two

1500
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: nations are dealing with these things. President Trump's saying more

1501
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: European nations especially need to take back their itist fighters

1502
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 1: and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law,

1503
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: while near the United Kingdom and other European nations are

1504
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: trying to trying to keep them out because actually the

1505
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: publics in those countries don't want them to come back

1506
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 1: in and live at the taxpayer of behest in prisons

1507
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: and then be released into society. You ten, fifteen, twenty

1508
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: years in advance. Raheem Kassam, everybody check out Raheim Kassam

1509
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: dot com for his latest writing and you'll also see

1510
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: him popping up on Fox and of course on this show,

1511
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: where he also is a very highly regarded guest host

1512
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: A Raheem h what do you think at switching gears

1513
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: here for a moment, we got a couple of minutes.

1514
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: What do you think about the emergency declaration? How did

1515
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,440
Speaker 1: Trump play now that we've got a little more information

1516
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: to work with here? How did Trump play this whole

1517
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: border situation, this whole negotiation Now, I'm not terribly well,

1518
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: I'm afraid similarly to how the midterms were played out. Look,

1519
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: unfortunately President Trump, and you know, some would argue that

1520
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: this is a good thing, but I think unfortunately for

1521
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: some of the more maga oriented people President Trump does

1522
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 1: listen to some of the people in the goop political establishment,

1523
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: some of the never Trumpers, even the Mitch McConnell's of

1524
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: the world, so and so forth, and they those guys

1525
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: don't really want to go toe to toe with the Democrats.

1526
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: They like to compromise. They're quite big fans of open borders.

1527
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: They're not quite sure where the party is going to

1528
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: go post Trump, and so they're just sort of biding

1529
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 1: their time and trying to tap him along. I think

1530
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: that's what happened in this circumstance, because I think the

1531
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: compromise that was reached with the Democrats there was no

1532
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: form of compromise at all. In fact, you know, Nancy

1533
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Pelosi might as well have been dancing and screaming from

1534
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: the rooftops when she saw the bill that the Republicans

1535
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,719
Speaker 1: have now agreed to that the President has agreed to sign.

1536
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: And it also did the president great damage because shutting

1537
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: down the government is one thing. Shutting down the government

1538
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: for a record amount of time, it's something that a

1539
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of Americans were in the end paying attention to,

1540
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily think it did him any personal harm.

1541
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: But what it did do is sort of underscore the

1542
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 1: fact that he didn't get anything really from doing that.

1543
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: They don't mind to shut down here or there if

1544
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: it achieved something, but I don't think much was really achieved.

1545
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: And I have to say, I think the emergency should

1546
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: have come a lot sooner, and I think it's a

1547
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: disappointment to a lot of people that it had to

1548
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: It had to go him for that long before he

1549
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 1: got there. Always good to hear from Rahem on this stuff, folks,

1550
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: is Raheem has been He may be the most maga

1551
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 1: loving brit of any brit on the planet, but he

1552
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,560
Speaker 1: calls it like he sees it, So you know, I

1553
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: tend to agree with on this one. I don't think

1554
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: that Yeah who you and who? Me and Nigel Forge

1555
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: constantly follow Yeah, well well I'll have you guys. I'll

1556
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: have you guys. Arm wrestle at Sea Packer. We can

1557
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: see who's the most maga loving brit there. But Rahim Kassam,

1558
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: everybody check out his ladies. He'll be feeling on this

1559
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: show soon. And you can also go to Rahem Kasam

1560
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: dot com and follow him on Twitter. Rahe Man, thanks

1561
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: for stopping by the Hut. Thank you, Katie. I wanted

1562
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: to wish you a happy President's Day. You know what

1563
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: is George Washington's day here? Washington Day here in New York,

1564
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: unlike the rest of the country, because George Washington native

1565
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: son of New York, big up, big New Yorker, that's right,

1566
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: East Coast. He was known as an East Coast one.

1567
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,480
Speaker 1: He was a It was New York's big papa. Okay,

1568
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: that was a couple of MSNBC anchors. Producer, Mike, is

1569
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: that like a millennial thing? Can you translate this for me?

1570
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: Native son of New York? Pretty sure? George Washington's from Virginia. Yeah,

1571
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent shores from Virginia. Yeah, I thought so.

1572
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 1: They apparently were not. Una. I'm gonna go out and

1573
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: say this right now, man, if if we did a

1574
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: civics test, you know how recently they said that I

1575
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: think like thirty percent of people that they pulled who

1576
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: are American citizens were able to pass the citizenship test,

1577
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: and it might even be less than that. But if

1578
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: we did a basic American history test of left wing

1579
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: news anchors, I think people would be utterly appalled. I

1580
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: think that they would be shocked and appalled in a

1581
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: way where they would they would no longer even if

1582
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: they were Democrats, they would no longer be able to

1583
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: watch these people on TV. I mean, you'll never be

1584
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: able to see this through one way or the other.

1585
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: But I really believe that in my heart of Heart's like,

1586
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: if you ask Katie Turr to tell me, just just

1587
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,879
Speaker 1: go through the most Beatie, where did the British finally surrender?

1588
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: Do America? Like, we just go through the most grade

1589
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: school level stuff, I think that they would get crushed.

1590
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I really do. Yeah, man, I mean that's I mean,

1591
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm not even the history buff. I mean, I'm a

1592
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: novice when it comes to this stuff. But I'm sitting

1593
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: there watching that and I'm like, I knew in like

1594
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: three seconds. I'm like, oh my god, I'm what are

1595
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: you serious? And she's telling me what to think every day. Yeah,

1596
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's astonishing well the way, speaking of people

1597
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 1: who don't know anything, we're telling us what to think.

1598
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: Amy Klobisher is still out there, somehow thinking that she

1599
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: should be running for president, which I think just the

1600
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: delusion that she is of the mind that she should

1601
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: run for president in and of itself is kind of disqualifying.

1602
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: But I think that the notion that she has any

1603
01:34:55,560 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: real shot at this is crazy town. But she's out

1604
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 1: there and oh she's yeah the heartland, Yeah, don't you know.

1605
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: And she talked about gun control. Because if you're going

1606
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: to be a left wing Democrat who has any prayer

1607
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: of getting through even doing well in the primary, never

1608
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: mind winning the Democrat primary, you've got to be a

1609
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: gun grabber. And for somebody from Minnesota to be a

1610
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: gun grabber, I guess it surprises me just because I

1611
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: know about all the hunting and fishing in Minnesota and

1612
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: I used to do some of that myself. But she

1613
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: doesn't have a basic understanding, it seems to me, of

1614
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment play clip fourteen. Like New Hampshire, Minnesota

1615
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 1: is a state that values the outdoors. We value hunting

1616
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: and fishing. And so I come at it from a

1617
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: little different place than some of my colleagues that are

1618
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: running for this office, and that I always look at

1619
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: every proposal and say, would this hurt my uncle Dick

1620
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: in the deer stand? And I would say that these

1621
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: common sense proposals in front of us do not. I

1622
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: don't see banning assault weapons, right, I don't think that

1623
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: in the deer stand has no idea what she's talking about.

1624
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: The Second Amendment is not, never was, and never will

1625
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:17,560
Speaker 1: be about hunting. Hunting and the ability to have firearms

1626
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: for hunting is a nice byproduct of the Second Amendment.

1627
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: But the Second Amendment is not about hunting. It is

1628
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: about the right of the citizen rate to keep and

1629
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: bear arms as a check against government tyranny. Now lips

1630
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: can laugh about that all they want. That is why

1631
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: it exists. That is why there is a second Hamdment

1632
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 1: and the right to defend oneself, defend one's home, defend

1633
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 1: one's hearth, all that stuff. So it is absolutely not

1634
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: about the right to go shoot, you know, whitetailed deer

1635
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 1: and pheasants and things like that. I'm actually going sporting

1636
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: clay shooting on Sunday, I'll have you know, So there's that.

1637
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 1: I have a problem though, when I go sporting clay shooting,

1638
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: I am I'm cross dominant, and so my left eye

1639
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 1: is my dominant eye, even though I'm right handed, and

1640
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 1: so I have to deal with being a cross dominant shooter,

1641
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: which for sporting clays is really annoying because you have

1642
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: to either you can either become a left handed shooter

1643
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: with along. It doesn't matter with pistol because you can

1644
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: just tilt your head and the pistol. That's why I've

1645
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: always been a pistol shooting is my favorite. But if

1646
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 1: you're a cross eyed dominant shooter and you're going after

1647
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: sporting clays or you're going bird hunting, you need to

1648
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: with the shotgun. You need to compensate and either go

1649
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: left handed or or you know, close one eye and

1650
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 1: use your other eye. And it's just a it's another thing.

1651
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: But you don't even know about my problems. So it's

1652
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: gonna be fun though on Sunday, for sure. But Amy

1653
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 1: Klobischer doesn't really understand that gun control is not about hunting.

1654
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: So once again we have libs that want to control

1655
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: aspects of our lives without understanding those aspects in any

1656
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: meaningful sense. They just know that control is appealing to them.

1657
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Telling us what to do is appealing to them, and

1658
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that is that is all that they think they have

1659
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: to know. And they know that also the left wing

1660
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: gun grabbers get excited about this stuff. So even though

1661
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: the chance of any legislation happening I think is small,

1662
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 1: it's always there. And if they could they would outlaw

1663
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: all semi automatic rifles. Just remember that, which would affect

1664
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: Uncle Dick in the Deer Standard. By the way, it's

1665
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: time for roll call. Roll call time. Oh yeah, roll call.

1666
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: I gotta get excited about it every time because roll

1667
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: call is oh so much fun. Let's get to it.

1668
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: We have first up, Lucinda. Lucinda wrote into Facebook dot

1669
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: com slash buck Sexton, and here's what Lucinda has to say.

1670
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: I was listening to talk about the two movies you

1671
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: watched last weekend. I will probably wait to see into

1672
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: the Spider verse. However, I did see The Witch, and

1673
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm traumatized from it. Perhaps I should not have watched

1674
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 1: it myself, but it is everything scary that I can imagine.

1675
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: I'm actually a little sorry I watched it. If you

1676
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: can handle devil goat stuff, I recommend it. The only

1677
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: other movie that I'm sorry I watched was Rosemary's Baby.

1678
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: I really do enjoy listening to you. You give me

1679
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: hope that not everyone has gone crazy. Shields Well, First

1680
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 1: of all, Lucinda, cool name. Always nice to have an

1681
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:37,919
Speaker 1: unusual and memorable name, says the guy named buck Sexton.

1682
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Buckman Sexton. For those who like to come after me

1683
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter for having a weird name. It's Buckman. It's

1684
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: a family name. As for the movies. As for the

1685
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: movies that I have recommended and that we are, well,

1686
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 1: I should say I don't even know if I really

1687
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: recommended them so much as I just mentioned them. Brandon,

1688
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: have you seen Let me ask you, have you seen

1689
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: The Witch? I have? Scary, right, I mean, I think

1690
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: it's well done for the genre. You're you're talking to

1691
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: somebody who's insensitized. I've watched all the eighties horror, some

1692
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: of the most you know, human centipede kind of movies.

1693
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: It was so it was all right, It's not super

1694
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: violent or like slash or stuff, but it is. It's creepy.

1695
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: But it was my horror opinion for whatever that means,

1696
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 1: a little overhyped, but it was still it was good.

1697
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: Look at you, hey, when it comes to horror, to

1698
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: be honest, what makes the hair stand up on the

1699
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 1: back of Brandon's neck for a movie? All right? That's

1700
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 1: what I want to know. What what what gets it

1701
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: done for you? It's got to be I think original

1702
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: and just like maybe a little bit kind of real

1703
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 1: that like movie dude, I know, I thought you were asking. Okay, hmmm,

1704
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: let me think about that. Well, I will tell you

1705
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 1: my favorite movie of all times, Killer Killer Clowns from

1706
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: out of Space. Wow, have you ever seed? Is Mike

1707
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 1: there to make fun of you in person? Because that

1708
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:01,480
Speaker 1: was an amazing revelation he stepped up. That's really a movie.

1709
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Ye oh my god. They have popcorn guns and they

1710
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: suck blood out of crazy straws out of these cotton

1711
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: candy cocoons. It's that's insane, dude. I don't even know

1712
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 1: how you do it. I'll just say this, man, I'll

1713
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: just I did see I did one see lepre Con

1714
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: five LEPrecon in the hood hood and I saw a

1715
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: LEPrecon I think it was four LEPrecon in space, which

1716
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: was another one, and I'm lec it is dude. When

1717
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 1: when Wayne in Wayne's World two did the whole LEPrecon thing,

1718
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: I it did really stick with me, because yeah, it

1719
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: was Anyway, I'm just saying, if you're somebody like me

1720
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 1: who thinks that the whole demonic possession thing is scary,

1721
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: you will find The Witch to be a scary movie.

1722
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: It is bleak as well, though it's relentless, like there's

1723
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: nothing happy or funny or pretty in the movie. It's

1724
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 1: pretty much just one long ride and like one long

1725
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: descent into hell. Anyway, Lucinda, I'm sorry that you got

1726
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 1: creeped out by it. I did warn you, but you

1727
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: had seen it before I told you. I think as

1728
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: for next on, role called Randy Rights, Don Williams, Hank Williams,

1729
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: Merle Haggard, and I don't know why, but nobody has

1730
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: said Wayland Jennings, and that gives me the sads. I'm

1731
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: assuming Randy, this is for my country music playlist. Now,

1732
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: I will say, guys, my country music playlist is pretty

1733
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: full right now, so I appreciate all the advice. I

1734
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: did ask for a team shout out of country music

1735
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: suggestions that said I got like a hundred songs in

1736
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 1: my playlists, So I'm good. I'm good right now. I

1737
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We will, you know, move on to other

1738
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I should ask for stock tips from the team

1739
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: or something, you know, I should. I should, Really, what

1740
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 1: do you call it when you use every crowd crowdsource?

1741
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: I should crowdsource all kinds of things because the people

1742
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 1: who listen to this show are full of incredible knowledge

1743
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 1: about all kinds of stuff Kimberly Rights. Wonder if Jesse

1744
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 1: or Jesse rather that was me. I misread that was

1745
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: in cahoots with Booker and Harris to get publicity for

1746
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: their anti lynching bill. Harris's buddy buddy with the entire

1747
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: Juss family. Huh, what did I don't know anything? Lynching bill?

1748
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 1: Is this? I assumed that lynching. Kamela Harris's anti lynching

1749
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: bill gets a second chance at becoming law. Well, this

1750
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 1: is okay, okay, you know what. Instead of just saying

1751
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, team, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring us

1752
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: all up to speed here because I did not know

1753
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 1: about this. So let's see what it says. Senator Kamala

1754
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: Kamela Harris's effort to make lynching a federal crime received

1755
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: new life Thursday when the Senate unanimously passed her bill

1756
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 1: to outlaw it. The bill, which is co authored by

1757
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 1: two other African Americans in the Senate, Democrat Corey Booker,

1758
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Republican Tim Scott of South Carolina, unanimously passed

1759
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: the Senate late last year, but the House did not

1760
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: take it up before the Congressional Senate ended and the

1761
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: bill session ended and U and the bill died. The

1762
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Senate pass Harris's legislation this again Thursday. With Democrats in

1763
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: control of the House. It stands a strong chance of

1764
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 1: making to President Trump's desk. It criminalized criminal It criminalizes

1765
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: attacks based on gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability

1766
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: if they involve crossing state lines or are facilitated by

1767
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: the internet, phone, or mail. Isn't that stuff already all illegal?

1768
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of confused. I feel like this is

1769
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 1: one of these laws that is outlawing stuff that's already illegal.

1770
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, of course everybody's everybody is anti lynching, But

1771
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 1: lynching involves vigilante hate crime essentially, right, it's it's and

1772
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 1: it can be a murder, so it will be a

1773
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: hate crime murder. I just don't understand the specifics of

1774
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: what this makes illegal or makes a federal crime that's

1775
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: not really already a federal crime. But I'd have to

1776
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: look into the bill. But yeah, you guys are right

1777
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: that are bringing up the anti lynching bill. This is

1778
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 1: a thing, and it's one that I just learned about now.

1779
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 1: So thank you for bring him to my attention. Robert

1780
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: writes Buck, I love your show. One bit of criticism, Oh,

1781
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: I can't stand the lame analogies. Nine times out of ten,

1782
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: the topic discussed is not needed analogy unless you have

1783
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 1: a few random lefties listening. I'm guessing your audience does

1784
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: not need all the analogies to get the point. I

1785
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 1: listen on KLBJ, and you are by far the best

1786
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: show in the last ten years in this time slot.

1787
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,919
Speaker 1: That said, I don't want to I don't want another analogy,

1788
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna go okay, okay, all right, Robert, Robert, Buddy,

1789
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 1: loud and clear, loud and clear, I'm gonna take I'm

1790
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna back off on, back off on the analogy.

1791
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 1: Sometimes the analogy comes from a place of me trying

1792
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 1: to kind of collect my thoughts. As much as it

1793
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: is to explain something to folks who are listening, it's

1794
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: a way to consolidate my own thinking. I do think

1795
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: that the analogies, for example, about the wall and a

1796
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: lock on a door, can be helpful, but you know

1797
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: it's not worth overplaying it. That said, I will, out

1798
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: of deference to you and our wonderful KLBJ Austin audience,

1799
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 1: I will avoid unnecessary analogies, but give me some credit.

1800
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 1: I also avoid as much as anybody can that speaks

1801
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 1: for three hours without a script, I avoid filler words

1802
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: pretty well, pretty I'm not saying I'm perfect. Some of

1803
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 1: you say, you say like and I mean and yes,

1804
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: I know, But if you listen to another radio show

1805
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: and you listen to this radio show, I will just

1806
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 1: tell you that my transcript has a lot less yeah

1807
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: like I mean like yeah, I mean like a lot

1808
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 1: of that out there and the rest of radio land.

1809
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: Just I'm just saying, just saying, give credit where its due.

1810
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Brent writes, watching you live on Shannon Bream, get it,

1811
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Buck Root rooting for you. Well, thank you so much, Brent,

1812
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I had fun last night. I was with

1813
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 1: my my buddy Charlie Kirk from Turning Point You essay,

1814
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 1: was also on the libs must Run and Hide in

1815
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Fear when Buck and Charlie are on the same segment

1816
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 1: at the same time. Leonard, right, Your Robert O'Rourke isn't bad,

1817
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: but it needs to be breathier. Also observe his speech cadence.

1818
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: He pauses breathlessly about every six to eight words. He

1819
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 1: sort of he sort of does this thing where he's

1820
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: just like so excited when he's talking and it's like

1821
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: he just worked out, but he didn't. No. I agree

1822
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 1: that my O'Rourke is pretty good. We all know that,

1823
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 1: all right. My Beaeto is pretty decent. But I can

1824
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 1: certainly work in a little bit. Sometimes it sounds a

1825
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: little too much like the guy from Napoleon Dynamite, and

1826
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 1: I know that, but he kind of reminds me of

1827
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 1: that guy. And impersonation often you peg it to somebody

1828
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: that is a more extreme version of the person that

1829
01:47:53,439 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: you're trying to impersonate. Christine right talking about AOC. She

1830
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 1: wants me to pay the taxes, not her. Well, Christine,

1831
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 1: that is true. She does not want to pay the

1832
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: taxes herself. She wants everybody else. This is trueho lives

1833
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: in general. Though they want other people to have to

1834
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 1: pick up the bill, they do not want to pick

1835
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: up the bill themselves. Susanne Ryan's hey, Buck, I love

1836
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,799
Speaker 1: your show. Susan, we love you. Thank you for listening.

1837
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 1: She's a podcast listener. She writes, My question is ken

1838
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: and will they be able to prosecute or do something

1839
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: about Smolette creating a false hate crime? And false statement.

1840
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, at least get him to pay back some

1841
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: of the taxpayers money wasted. Shields I sue, sue shield

1842
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 1: tie to you. And yes, they can do something about this.

1843
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they will. They should, but I

1844
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: think that there's going to be because the media is

1845
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 1: gonna run interference and they're gonna back off as I

1846
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 1: think that there's going to be a real effort to say, well,

1847
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: he suffered enough and let's not make him suffer more

1848
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, And I just I

1849
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: would rather that not be the case. But we will

1850
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,719
Speaker 1: have to see. But Susan, because I think it's important.

1851
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,719
Speaker 1: I think it sends a very bad message if somebody

1852
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 1: can get away with doing what he did in the

1853
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,799
Speaker 1: way that he did it, the egregious planned out nature

1854
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: of it too, and the drain on resources, the drain

1855
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 1: on resources that comes as a result of this. So

1856
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 1: you've got it. If you're not going to draw a

1857
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: line in the sand on this one, if you're not

1858
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: going to try and hold someone accountable for a FAKEK

1859
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: crime in this instance, when are you going to do it? All? Right, team,

1860
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna be this episode of The Buck Sex Did

1861
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 1: Show Thank you so much for listening and honor. A

1862
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 1: privilege and a pleasure to have you hanging out with

1863
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 1: me in the hut. I got a lot more in

1864
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,560
Speaker 1: mind already for the rest of the week, so be

1865
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 1: sure to tune in. However you tune in, talk to

1866
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 1: you tomorrow, Shields High,