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Speaker 1: This is the huddle hid.

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Speaker 2: Every Thursday from you to to.

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Speaker 3: The Huddle.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Whyman, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 4: and Stacy Ross. We are here at Virginia Mason Athletics

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Speaker 4: Center on a Tuesday because the Seahawks are hosting Thursday

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Speaker 4: night football against the forty nine Ers. We're going to

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Speaker 4: start our preview of that game in a moment. First,

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Speaker 4: let's figure out what happened Sunday. The Seahawks had a

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Speaker 4: second consecutive loss, and Bump Dave, a home loss to

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Speaker 4: the Giants feels different. It hits different than a road

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Speaker 4: loss to the Lions. I was able to leave the

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Speaker 4: Lions game and we talked about what was encouraging and things.

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Speaker 5: That we liked seeing.

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Speaker 4: But Dave, with this loss to the Giants, I just

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Speaker 4: kept thinking, the Seahawks had no business losing this game.

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Speaker 4: They outmatched on paper in almost every facet heading into it,

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Speaker 4: and yet we're outplayed in almost every facet on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting to hear some of the comments, like

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Speaker 6: I felt like Gino or the game was he was

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Speaker 6: kind of angry, like he was, Okay, they outplayed us

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Speaker 6: and I don't mind that because he's actually really sort

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Speaker 6: of reeled in his his emotions because I know that

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Speaker 6: he's kind of a fiery guy, which I love.

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Speaker 1: I love that about him.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, you could just hear in his voice the

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Speaker 6: frustration that you know, and we've talked about this the

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Speaker 6: whole looking past the trap game and everything, I really

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Speaker 6: don't see that's what happened. But I'll just say on

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Speaker 6: the defensive side of the ball, I thought that you

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Speaker 6: need to scrap and fight for the blades of grass

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Speaker 6: out on the field, and that's where I saw a

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Speaker 6: lot of times taken on blocks and things like that.

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Speaker 6: They weren't as like stingy and nasty about it whereas

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Speaker 6: the Giants were, and they did they did a really

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Speaker 6: good job with that. So yeah, I mean, just another

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Speaker 6: reminder that anybody can can hurt you. The thing I

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Speaker 6: kept bringing up yesterday was that, you know, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 6: in that very first series, he trips over his tackle,

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Speaker 1: Coughs up the ball.

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Speaker 5: It felt so encouraging and it was.

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Speaker 6: Like Daniel Jones and then he takes them on yeah

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Speaker 6: sixteen play driver or whatever it was, and.

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Speaker 5: He's less lovable.

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Speaker 6: Then, Yeah, but then then they end up, you know,

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Speaker 6: fumbling the ball and you're thinking, okay, all right, that's fine,

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Speaker 6: But then he just had his way with the defense.

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Speaker 1: He really had you.

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Speaker 6: Know, not like eye popping stats, but you know, enough

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Speaker 6: to beat this defense. And so yeah, there's there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of things that they got to fix because you're

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Speaker 6: going to be on point against the forty nine ers bump.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be really honest, heading out of this game,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't tell whether I was more concerned with the

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Speaker 4: offense or defense. There were some concerns for both sides

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Speaker 4: of the ball. When you were leaving this game, where

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Speaker 4: did you kind of linger on your concern.

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Speaker 7: The Big Boys offensive line, defensive line. I think the Bigs.

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Speaker 7: They control the game.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 7: As much as these receivers are getting thirty five million

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Speaker 7: dollars quarterbacks getting fifty million dollars, it ain't fullball without

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Speaker 7: the bigs. And if you're not able to establish a

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Speaker 7: run with the Bigs, protect your quarterback with the Bigs,

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Speaker 7: offense doesn't go. If you can't get after the quarterback

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Speaker 7: with the big stop the run with the Bigs, nothing

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Speaker 7: else in the back end is going to work.

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Speaker 2: So now I would I would look more towards.

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Speaker 7: The defense because I felt like the offense still put

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Speaker 7: downs and third downs weren't as good as we saw

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Speaker 7: as the week before, but they did enough to still

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Speaker 7: be in the game, and the defense theoretically did enough

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Speaker 7: to be in the game. But you understand that when

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Speaker 7: you go up against an offense with Daniel Jones, no

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Speaker 7: MO League, neighbors, no Singletary, and you allow Slayton, who

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Speaker 7: was a good receiver in this league, and Wandelle Robinson

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Speaker 7: get it down in the backfield, you start questioning. You're like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: well maybe they're not as good as we thought they

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Speaker 7: were collectively. Individually, I think there are some bright spots.

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Speaker 7: But at the defense, just tighten up just a little bit.

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Speaker 7: I think this team has a chance.

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Speaker 4: Dave, are we seeing with these last two losses the

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Speaker 4: same defensive issues we saw last year or is it different?

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Speaker 1: Look it looks the same to me?

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Speaker 6: Is what it does is and uh And I feel

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Speaker 6: like it's hard to kind of figure out who has

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Speaker 6: because I remember that there was a few times where

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Speaker 6: I actually had to take on a guard and play

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Speaker 6: both sides of the gap, and you know, whatever way

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Speaker 6: the running back goes, you shed away and make the tackle.

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Speaker 1: And but it looks to me.

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Speaker 6: And then also I was in defenses where hey, if

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Speaker 6: it's a front side rund, I.

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Speaker 9: Got the B gap.

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Speaker 6: If it's backside, I got the A gap, And I

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Speaker 6: can't really figure out who has what. And then the

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Speaker 6: other problem is is, like I said, they're not being

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Speaker 6: what I always call stingy with the space, meaning you know,

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Speaker 6: you just take a guy on and he pushes you

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Speaker 6: in your gap. You got to fight for not letting

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Speaker 6: him push you and constrict those gaps. And there was

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Speaker 6: a lot of plays, especially on like screenplays, where guys

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Speaker 6: mean he didn't need hardly any space. And that's a

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Speaker 6: lot what you're going to get with the forty nine

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Speaker 6: ers as well. And we saw the same thing with

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Speaker 6: that they that they really need to work on.

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Speaker 5: Bump.

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Speaker 4: This is a game in which they did get a

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Speaker 4: few defensive starters back. Obviously, Chenna nuos Whu is hurt

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Speaker 4: once again and that's horrible news for this team. But

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Speaker 4: they got Leonard Williams back, Jerome Baker was back out there.

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Speaker 4: Boyem Offe is still inactive. We'll see if he can

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Speaker 4: make it back by Thursday against the Lions. It was

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Speaker 4: easy for us to say, Okay, this is a team

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Speaker 4: that was short six defensive starters. There's an asterisk that

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Speaker 4: you can add here. Does it feel like you don't

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Speaker 4: that you think is affecting this team.

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Speaker 7: Obviously Newol's and not being there is gonna be big.

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Speaker 7: I think kat isn't one hundred percent. I think just

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Speaker 7: not the way that he played. He's not a hundo.

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Speaker 7: And then Barron Murphy. It's hard to look at a

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to do that, but having him in

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Speaker 7: the rotation just gives guys a break, and he gives

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Speaker 7: I just want to see what it looks like with

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Speaker 7: him in there, because it's a thankless position. Man, that

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Speaker 7: dtackle I'm taking on double teams. If you the Stelle made,

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Speaker 7: you've done your job. So when I'm watching the film

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Speaker 7: a double team constantly, constantly, I can only imagine just

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Speaker 7: being worn out as a receiver. There's not constant tension

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Speaker 7: on another person. When I play, I'm out of space

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Speaker 7: and I'm running like I might get tired of my lungs,

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Speaker 7: but physically, like they're muscles, they just get tired.

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Speaker 2: So you need that rotation coming in.

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking at Byron Murphy and I think we're

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Speaker 7: starting to feel the effects of not having their full

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Speaker 4: This is going to be the same question for both

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Speaker 4: of you, So Dave, I'll start with you, but Bump,

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Speaker 4: you're going to have the same one. You'll just have

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Speaker 4: less choices because Dave's can answer first. There are a

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Speaker 4: lot of things that the three of us could list

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Speaker 4: out as stuff that went wrong on Sunday, Right, what

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Speaker 4: are things that didn't like? What's something from Sunday where

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Speaker 4: you left thinking I still feel okay with this. It

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Speaker 4: could be a phase of the game, It could be

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Speaker 4: a player, it could be a coach and approach something

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Speaker 4: that you thought this was not part a big part

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Speaker 4: at least of this loss. Oh.

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Speaker 6: Man, that's a great question, just because coming out of

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Speaker 6: you know, that kind of game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just felt so bad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's fascinating.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, I think that you still have

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Speaker 6: players that haven't played their best.

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Speaker 1: I would say it's probably the look at Spoon.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that made a play or two or five

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Speaker 6: I feel like that's still to come. So I still

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Speaker 6: feel like it's easy to get down after a couple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really did.

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Speaker 6: Didn't think it would go that way, and so yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean I think that's the encouraging part. Some of

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Speaker 6: DK's face after he had that fumble, which is two

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Speaker 6: I feel like, and I heard you guys talking about

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Speaker 6: somebody asking is he do more harm?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Crazy, Like I.

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Speaker 5: Was shaking your head.

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Speaker 6: Come on, man, yeah, three one hundred yard receiving yards

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Speaker 6: for me. What's what's kind of encouraged?

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Speaker 4: Dumb?

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Speaker 2: What about you Geno Smith?

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Speaker 7: I mean he's with all the chaos has going on

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Speaker 7: the pocket. Here's the thing about Gino, Like the pocket

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Speaker 7: hasn't been horrible that he has to work in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Been great either.

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Speaker 7: I'm looking at the pocket that Daniel Jones had to

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Speaker 7: throw from that Jared.

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Speaker 2: Golf got to throw from, and it's a lot cleaner.

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Speaker 7: And even with that, he still completed seventy percent of

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Speaker 7: his passes, threw a touchdown, and he was sack seven times.

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Speaker 2: So they got after him.

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Speaker 7: But Gino has been the most consistent thing on this

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Speaker 7: team all year. So seeing Genail still stand tall in

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Speaker 4: Okay, so just one more minute here, what's something that

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Speaker 4: you truly believe this team can switch up? And And

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Speaker 4: for me, Dave, maybe you can start here if you want,

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Speaker 4: I would just love to see them. I guess invest

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Speaker 4: in the run a little bit more, maybe started a

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Speaker 4: little earlier. There has to be a reason that Grubb

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Speaker 4: wanted to establish. He knows more than I, But I

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Speaker 4: just don't know how many games you can just turn

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Speaker 4: save you the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean I think I always say that the game

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Speaker 4: Well, let's focus on that with our next guest. We're

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Speaker 4: with Ray Roberts. Ray, how's it going.

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Speaker 11: It's going on right, how you guys doing.

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Speaker 5: We are good, We are good. Obviously.

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Speaker 4: We want to spend a big part of this looking

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Speaker 4: than ruminating on a loss. That being said, every single week,

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Speaker 4: what you saw from the offensive line. It's been a

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Speaker 12: You know what I'm seeing is that I think as

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Speaker 11: The ball, especially in the front seven.

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Speaker 12: They get paid to rush the quarterback. That's where the

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Speaker 12: They don't go like, oh, this dude had fifteen tackles

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Speaker 12: And so they want to rush the quarterback, and you're

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Speaker 12: I've never played the defensive lineman that tapped his helmet

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Speaker 12: But the last two games, you've thrown the ball ninety

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Speaker 12: those dudes earn every single pass rush they get. They

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Speaker 6: So Ray, as a play caller, you know, we were

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Speaker 11: Well, this is not me.

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Speaker 12: Well I guess this is my opinion. So I don't

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Speaker 12: like it, but but you should call runs so that

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Speaker 12: People don't understand that those the same types of things

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Speaker 12: same thing. Like, you can't throw the ball the first

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Speaker 11: One time and they go like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 12: We didn't get any movement. Let's go back to the

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Speaker 12: just can't do that. I think sometimes and this is

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Speaker 12: Let's run what let's do what we said we're gonna

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Speaker 12: Offensive line play is the most misunderstood of any sport.

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Speaker 11: Like I wanted?

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Speaker 12: I need to get groove too. I want to I

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Speaker 12: And so now you're going like every single running play

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ray, I feel everything you're saying.

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Speaker 7: I put myself in rub shoes and yeah, he's off

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Speaker 7: Like your defense ain't gonna get any stops, you know,

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Speaker 2: We got to score right now.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that that's that's that's what has happened.

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Speaker 12: That's that's like, if you want to really sell the

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Speaker 12: So then you go even more, you go even you

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Speaker 4: Well said Ray, he is big Ray Roberts. You can

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Speaker 4: hear him on Seahawks pre and post. This Thursday, you

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Speaker 4: got a primetime matchup between the Seahawks and forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 5: He is Ray Roberts.

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Speaker 13: Thanks Ray, Sure, see you guys later.

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Speaker 4: See yeah, all right, coming up next Seahawks offensive lineman

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Speaker 4: Laken Tomlinson joining us.

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Speaker 5: This is the huddle.

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Speaker 10: This, this is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

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Speaker 10: two on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the huddle with Dave Woyman, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 4: and Stacy Ross.

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Speaker 5: Seahawks practice is just wrapping up.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be joined by offensive lineman Laken Tomlinson

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Speaker 4: in just a few moments, so he'll interrupt us while

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Speaker 4: while we're talking here, but we're going to get started

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Speaker 4: and look ahead to Thursday night against the San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 4: Dave, the forty nine ers are a team that are

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Speaker 4: still incredibly talented.

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Speaker 5: They were just in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And yet they are missing some key pieces have been

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Speaker 4: a little injured this season. They're coming off a loss

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Speaker 4: against the Arizona Cardinals, a team that I don't think

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Speaker 4: many people expected to be a powerhouse by any means,

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Speaker 4: though they do have some playmakers as well. Is this

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Speaker 4: a forty nine ers team that is weaker than you thought?

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Speaker 4: Still tricky? I mean, how do you see them five

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Speaker 4: weeks into the season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, geez, come on, rookie. Yeah, it's funny. I'm looking

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Speaker 6: at their offense. I mean, just the way they run

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Speaker 6: their offense. I feel like you can kind of plug

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Speaker 6: pretty much anybody in there. And you know, you see

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Speaker 6: Jordan Mason and what he's doing. Yeah, it's interesting to

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Speaker 6: see watch them actually lose a game because they're just

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Speaker 6: so talented and you know the way their offense is,

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Speaker 6: you just have to be right on point at all times.

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Speaker 6: So that is truly like I feel like you can

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Speaker 6: make it sound easy, but like you can pretty much

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Speaker 6: plug anybody into that Kyle Shanahan offense and it's going

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Speaker 6: to be efficient anyway.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, you mentioned some.

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Speaker 6: Of the some of the injuries and you know, guys

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Speaker 6: not playing, but I'm still cant their defense go on.

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Speaker 5: There still see in production Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Floyd, Uh, you know there's Fred Warner. Unbelievable. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: Shavari's ward. I mean, they've they've got some ballers. So

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Speaker 6: even though what are they two and three?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really weird.

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Speaker 6: This is a this is a team that can jump

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Speaker 6: up and bite you in there. They they play good

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Speaker 6: defense and they're they're a really good offensive.

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Speaker 4: Football Lincoln walking over right now until we get him seated. Bump.

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Speaker 4: It's funny Wyman mentioned, you know, yeah, they're missing guys,

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Speaker 4: but they can kind of plug in anyone. And I

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Speaker 4: saw you nodding because I know that you've been watching

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Speaker 4: this run game and you have been just seeing NonStop

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Speaker 4: them able to establish the run even without Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I wonder if I should know this going to

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Speaker 7: look back and find out who has been their online

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Speaker 7: coach and their running back coach, because there has to

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Speaker 7: be if they've been there for a while, they have

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Speaker 7: to be connected by the hip, like they have to

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Speaker 7: be able are great at just teaching guys how to

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Speaker 7: fill the game where things should flow. The most natural

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Speaker 7: was in football to me is the running back though.

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Speaker 7: You get the ball, you get after it, do your thing.

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Speaker 4: It really is wild to see though, Like I remember

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Speaker 4: in Jordan Mason's first game thinking like what a bummer,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like you got to be

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Speaker 4: the guy following him up and then he goes and

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Speaker 4: has this phenomenal game and ends up being great. Joining

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Speaker 4: us right now, Seahawks offensive line in Laken Tomlinson.

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Speaker 5: Laken, tell me if I'm saying this right.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to look back through your football reference

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Speaker 4: page and I thought, Okay, No, Laken played for the

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. Surely he's played the forty nine ers

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Speaker 4: since then, right, because it's been a couple of years,

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Speaker 4: have you not? No, this is your first game against

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers as a not forty nine er.

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Speaker 14: Correct, you're one hundred percent correct. Yeah, the past couple

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Speaker 14: of years, I haven't had the opportunity to play against.

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Speaker 4: Him, feel anything about it at all? Or just kind

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Speaker 4: of another game.

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know, to me, just another game. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 14: you know I still got a ton of folks over

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Speaker 14: there that I still know that I played with when

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Speaker 14: I was there. But I mean, hey, I got my

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Speaker 14: guys here man, and we're coming ready for war on Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Does that?

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Speaker 6: Does that the familiarity of like knowing those guys like

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Speaker 6: they're not some legend that you see on you know,

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Speaker 6: film and whatever. Like when you look at guys like

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Speaker 6: Nick Bosa, do you I kind of felt that way

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Speaker 6: when I went to Denver and then I came back

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Speaker 6: and played the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, I know these guys there.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously, you know, you have the

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Speaker 14: familiarity with uh, you know, with those guys and being

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Speaker 14: in the locker room with those guys, and but you know,

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Speaker 14: for me, and you know, just throughout my career, I

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Speaker 14: had the extreme pleasure of being in different locker rooms.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 14: I was in Detroit, you know, for my first team,

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Speaker 14: then went to the Niners, and I.

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Speaker 9: Was with the Jets.

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Speaker 14: So I've had the extreme pleasure of meeting a ton

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Speaker 14: of great players, you know, over my careers. And when

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Speaker 14: you reconnect with those guys, there's always you know, uh,

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Speaker 14: you get you get that familiarity feeling when you meet

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Speaker 14: those guys, you could talk to them, you know. But

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Speaker 14: you know, that's just kind of how I've seen it

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Speaker 14: throughout my career.

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Speaker 2: Well, what makes a good O line group?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 7: You guys are the one group to where you have

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Speaker 7: to move together right as receivers. I know, I'm running straight,

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Speaker 7: he he's got a slam. Like we're connected, but not

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Speaker 7: as much as the old line. What makes a good one.

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Speaker 14: Ah, man, I mean I would say one hundred percent.

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Speaker 14: Is a chemistry.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 14: You know, you just have a group of guys who's

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Speaker 14: just love hanging out with each other, love talking to

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Speaker 14: each other.

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Speaker 9: That communication goes a long way.

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know, the time spent with each other

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Speaker 14: just physically, you know, you know, me and Me and

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Speaker 14: Charles can go out there, we can you know, have

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Speaker 14: a design play and we don't have to say a word.

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Speaker 9: We just know what we're each other gonna do.

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Speaker 14: I can talk to Connor and be like, hey, I

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Speaker 14: can just say say his name and he'll know exactly

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Speaker 14: what I'm talking about, you.

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Speaker 9: Know, like the little things like that.

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Speaker 14: That's what so important with offensive line plays is having

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Speaker 14: that chemistry.

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Speaker 5: Stone said that you guys go out, is it once

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Speaker 5: a week? Every week? You guys go out for dinner

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Speaker 5: and then you rotate who pays?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we wrote we rotate who pays? Mante I think

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Speaker 14: Stone had the last time too. You know, we've been

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Speaker 14: to some really nice restaurants. Man, it's always a good time.

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Speaker 5: Okay, when's your next turn?

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Speaker 9: My next turn?

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Speaker 14: I think I was one of the first ones, so

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Speaker 14: hopefully not coming up anytime. Say so, we got to

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Speaker 14: get through the roster, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're gonna look at like like a third stringer,

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Speaker 5: like I mean, what can I say?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: And the rookie dinner too, Come on, now, come on,

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Speaker 14: you've got some time.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Well if it's my turn, I'm like, we're

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Speaker 6: going to McDonald's.

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Speaker 5: Guy, yeh.

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Speaker 1: Is there a standard there?

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Speaker 11: Like?

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Speaker 1: Okay, come on, we can't.

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Speaker 14: Go to I mean, I mean, you know the guys,

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Speaker 14: you mean, you know, usually typically, you know, most most

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Speaker 14: rooms would do after like a Thursday practice or off

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Speaker 14: a Friday practice. You know, guys have a chance to

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Speaker 14: kind of you know, refuel, you know, after the two

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Speaker 14: couple of days Wednesday, Thursday, and you know, us big guys,

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Speaker 14: we want to eat, you know sometimes you know, when

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Speaker 14: I know that that dinner is coming up, I'm saving

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Speaker 14: off for that dinner.

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Speaker 9: I'm trying to throw down.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 9: Come on, now, I'm a big boy.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if like one of the rookies walked

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Speaker 4: you guys up to the cafeteria, they were like.

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Speaker 5: Any you want?

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Speaker 14: Oh no, no, no, that would have been a big

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Speaker 14: fine in our room. We can't be doing that now,

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Speaker 14: come on.

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Speaker 7: Hey, so you've played during a time where linebackers war

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Speaker 7: fifty and forty and you can easily I D who

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Speaker 7: you're gonna block.

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Speaker 2: How hard is it now to try to figure out?

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Speaker 14: Hey, you know that change, when that change came about

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Speaker 14: in the NFL, you know, it definitely made you know,

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Speaker 14: id in the protection. I mean I'm speaking as a guard,

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Speaker 14: and you imagine this for a center and quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 14: when it was easier for them to you know, just

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Speaker 14: have the memorize of fifty forty numbers. Now you get

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Speaker 14: to be like, oh, number one, number ten, whatever number

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Speaker 14: that is. And you know, sometimes I don't even know,

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Speaker 14: you know, those guys they have to do all the

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Speaker 14: idea and stuff. I'm just going off what they're telling me.

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Speaker 4: Right, can you ever feel a difference in a type

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Speaker 4: of running back that you're blocking for, like.

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Speaker 5: If a certain guy.

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Speaker 4: I know that sounds like a silly question, but just like,

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Speaker 4: is the difference between the styles in like Ken Walker

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Speaker 4: and someone else enough that you can kind of get

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Speaker 4: a feel as you're playing the oh.

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Speaker 14: I mean just with the amount of reps that you

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Speaker 14: get with that person and kind of get how, you know,

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Speaker 14: like what makes that person special? You know, and you

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Speaker 14: want to cater to that, you know, you want to

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Speaker 14: you want to be able to express that as.

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Speaker 9: Much as you can.

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Speaker 14: Especially in offensive line room, you have a guy, you know,

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Speaker 14: like Canine who's able to, you know, take whatever we

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Speaker 14: give them and just make a mala of it. You know,

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Speaker 14: you know, it makes it makes them a truly special player.

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Speaker 6: Like and I was always kind of envious of the

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Speaker 6: offensive line because you guys were so tight. And what

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Speaker 6: I used to say is that they're bonded by misery

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Speaker 6: because you.

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Speaker 1: Don't get any credit, all the blame, all the blame.

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Speaker 6: The only time anybody ever mentions an offensive lineman is

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Speaker 6: when he gives up a sack or gets a penalty

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Speaker 6: or something like that. Does that kind of bind you

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Speaker 6: guys a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Is that true? You think?

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Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, you know, obviously we don't have any

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Speaker 14: The only stat we have is a negative stat you know.

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Speaker 14: But in our room in the building, of course, you know,

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Speaker 14: you know, we we have this thing that we break

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Speaker 14: it down with in our offensive line room every day,

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Speaker 14: all in pride. You know, we know what we do

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Speaker 14: and what we stand for. And you know, sometimes I

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Speaker 14: might go unscene, but you know, everybody in the room.

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Speaker 14: They see it, and our teammates see it, and the

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Speaker 14: coaches see it.

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Speaker 9: And that's what makes it. Pride flatters, That's what it's

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Speaker 9: all that matters.

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Speaker 7: I love when you guys run your zone. You get

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Speaker 7: a little double team going, and then I look at

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Speaker 7: the tackle of one teg or three and I go,

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Speaker 7: you got a miserable job.

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Speaker 2: Man, You're getting double team all day. Who's Who's the

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Speaker 2: toughest player in your career?

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Speaker 7: It's a double team.

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Speaker 14: I mean I would have to say, I mean he

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Speaker 14: played in this division.

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Speaker 9: You know, Aaron Donald?

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Speaker 14: You know, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean just I mean,

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Speaker 14: the hands easier, probably the toughest guy.

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Speaker 9: Double team for sure.

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Speaker 4: Completely unrelated question, but we did ask Stone who has

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Speaker 4: the best hands?

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Speaker 5: My question for you if if, if you guys, tell.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Grubb drop a play, drop a play, We're gonna

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Speaker 4: get a big guy touchdown. And you, guys, everything is

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Speaker 4: writing on this guy making the catch.

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Speaker 5: It's it's for a touchdown. It's it's the biggest deal.

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Speaker 9: Is it?

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Speaker 3: You me?

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Speaker 5: Who's making the catch? Best hands in this room? Who

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Speaker 5: is making this catch?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 14: Man, I'm not to give that to Charles. I might

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Speaker 14: have to get out to give it to Charles, you know,

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Speaker 14: only because he said that. You know, he's a hooper.

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Speaker 14: He gets some hops now, so you can go up

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Speaker 14: and go get it.

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Speaker 5: Talk a big game, you have to do it.

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Speaker 9: That's all I'm saying. So I might give that.

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Speaker 2: To my tackle, all right.

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Speaker 4: He is Lake and Tomlinson kind enough to join us.

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Speaker 4: Very busy in a very short week for you. So

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Speaker 4: you were going to face your old team for the

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Speaker 4: first time, and it's going to be a big home game.

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Speaker 4: We wish you the best of luck and we will

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Speaker 4: be back in just a little bit with a preview.

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Speaker 10: Is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two on

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Speaker 10: Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman and

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Speaker 4: Michael Bumpus and Stacy Ross joining us right now for

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Speaker 4: an opponent preview. He covers the NFC West Fox Sports.

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Speaker 4: It's Eric Williams.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Eric, how's it going.

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Speaker 11: It's going good.

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Speaker 13: How you guys doing.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Happy to have you and uh Eric,

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Speaker 4: quite frankly for both of these teams, probably happy to

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Speaker 4: have a short week. I know you don't normally think

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Speaker 4: that in the NFL. You kind of lament to four

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Speaker 4: day turnaround. But both of these teams coming off a losses.

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Speaker 4: I'll start with San Francisco kind of a surprising start

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Speaker 4: to the season. Are most of their issues Eric injury

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Speaker 4: related or are there some other things that forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers fans are concerned about right now?

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Speaker 13: No, I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 13: with Christian McCaffrey being out, he's the engine of their

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Speaker 13: offense and they certainly are missing his production, both as

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Speaker 13: a runner and as a guy that can catch the

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Speaker 13: ball out of the backfield. But I also think there's

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Speaker 13: some spillover for from what happened during the offseason, you know,

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Speaker 13: the the IU contract situation, Trent Williams also dealing with

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Speaker 13: contract issues. I think there's some chemistry that needs to

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Speaker 13: be built over the next couple of weeks that that

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Speaker 13: they didn't get because of those guys being out. So

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Speaker 13: I think it's a little bit of both. When you

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Speaker 13: look at you know, their their two and three start

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Speaker 13: and some of the issues that they're dealing with, which

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Speaker 13: you know, I'm as we're renicating to here in a

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Speaker 13: little bit.

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Speaker 7: Hey, we're used to seeing the San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 7: of stats wise, right, you're pulling up the defensive leaders

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Speaker 7: and seeing their name in the top five. When it

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Speaker 7: comes to defense, offensively, things still seem to be the same.

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Speaker 2: Their defense isn't horrible at all. But what are you seeing?

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Speaker 11: What?

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Speaker 2: Why have the nine of struggles so much this year?

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Speaker 13: You're right, we're not seeing that consistent pass rush that

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Speaker 13: we got used to seeing from them on a regular basis,

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Speaker 13: with obviously Nick Bosa being the leader of that. Uh,

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Speaker 13: they missed a couple of their playmakers defensively because of

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Speaker 13: of injuries. Javon Hargrave in the interior being able to

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Speaker 13: get a consistent push on the interior. They're they're missing

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Speaker 13: that because he's out for the year because of a

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Speaker 13: triceps injury. And then Drake Greenlow probably doesn't get talked

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Speaker 13: about enough, you know, he was really kind of their

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Speaker 13: tone center from the second level. And him not being

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Speaker 13: back from the achilles that he suffered in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 13: They're they're trying to replace that with other players and

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Speaker 13: they're not getting the production that they usually get from

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Speaker 13: that position. And so those two key pieces I think

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Speaker 13: are really affecting, you know, what they want to do defensively.

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Speaker 13: Along with you know, replacing their defensive coordinator with the

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Speaker 13: first time person in Sorenson. So I think all of

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Speaker 13: that is kind of leading to what you're seeing from

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Speaker 13: their defense, which is just inconsistent play.

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Speaker 4: I think that we're Christian McCaffrey out there, and were

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Speaker 4: they a little healthier, would be probably hearing plenty about

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Speaker 4: this offense. But because of that, we're not how's Brock

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Speaker 4: Purty doing. How's he looking.

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Speaker 11: I think he's playing good for the most part.

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Speaker 13: I think last week was kind of a hiccup in

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Speaker 13: terms of what we saw from him. They're pushing the

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Speaker 13: ball down the field more than maybe they've done in

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Speaker 13: years past, and I think part of that is because

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Speaker 13: they don't have McCaffrey there as a dump off guy

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Speaker 13: Jeorde Mason, McCaffrey's replacement, has just eight catches, i believe,

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Speaker 13: on the season for sixty six yards. So if they're

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Speaker 13: not using him as much in the past game as

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Speaker 13: they did, you know, Christian McCaffrey. Just in terms of

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Speaker 13: a releaf point for Purty, Purdy has the longest time

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Speaker 13: in the pocket in terms of past attempt in the league,

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Speaker 13: so obviously he's letting things develop more down the field.

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Speaker 11: He's also scrambling more too, which.

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Speaker 13: Is sometimes good and sometimes bad. You know, sometimes he's

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Speaker 13: able to get out and make a play by extending

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Speaker 13: the play with his feet. Other times he's you know,

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Speaker 13: you know, creating turnover worthy plays because he's taking two

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Speaker 13: time to get rid of the football. And that's something

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Speaker 13: Kyle Shan talks about after last week's loss, is maybe

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Speaker 13: they need to stay more within structure and just kind

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Speaker 13: of take what the defense is giving them eight takeaways,

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Speaker 13: which there's only three teams that have more takeaways. That

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Speaker 13: obviously bit them last week. They had three turnovers in

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Speaker 13: the fourth quarter, which is basically why the Cardinals.

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Speaker 11: Were able to win that game. And then they're struggling

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Speaker 11: in the red.

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Speaker 13: Zone, you know, amongst the bottom in the league in

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Speaker 13: terms of you know, converting those opportunities in the touchdowns.

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Speaker 13: Last week was a little unique because they lost Jake

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Speaker 13: Moody to an ankle injury, so they went for probably

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Speaker 13: more than they would in those situations. Going to have

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Speaker 13: a new kicker in Matthew Right, So that's definite to

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Speaker 13: keep an eye on in this game on Thursday, but

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Speaker 13: they have to do better in red zone situations. And

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Speaker 13: finish those those attempts with touchdowns instead of field goals.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Eric, it feels like, Man, I'm probably exaggerating, but

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Speaker 7: it feels like the last ten years the Niners have

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Speaker 7: been able just to throw a running back in the

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Speaker 7: backfield and he balls out.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 7: We've seen Jeff Wilson have his moments. Mostard Carlos Hive

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Speaker 7: was back there for a while. What is it about

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Speaker 7: this offense that allows running backs to flourish or is

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Speaker 7: it more just the Niners doing a great job kind

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Speaker 7: of finding these running backs so they can just plug

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Speaker 7: in and play.

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Speaker 13: No, it's the scheme, and it goes back to Kyle's dad,

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Speaker 13: Mike Shanahan when he's the diner Broncos. You know, Al

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Speaker 13: Gibbs was kind of the godfather of that zone, you

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Speaker 13: know running scheme, you know, back with the Broncos and

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Speaker 13: if you remember back then, they had a bunch of

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Speaker 13: different packs run for over a thousand yards starting with

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Speaker 13: Chrayrell Davis, Mike Anderson. Clinton Portis was another guy that

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Speaker 13: had some success in that scheme. So similar concepts with

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Speaker 13: the Niners.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 13: Obviously Kyle got that from his dad, understands that they

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Speaker 13: could run it a number of different ways, and I

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Speaker 13: think they do a great job of teaching it there

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Speaker 13: in San Francisco, and that's why they're able to just

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Speaker 13: PLoP a number of different bats and that have similar

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Speaker 13: skill sets and see it the same way and then

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Speaker 13: have success.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Eric, I know that we're bringing you on for

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Speaker 4: an opponent preview, and you do have a ton of

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Speaker 4: insight into the forty nine ers, but rarely do we

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Speaker 4: get an opponent preview with someone who does cover all

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Speaker 4: the teams in that division.

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Speaker 5: So I actually wanted to tap.

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Speaker 4: In and kind of check and see what you think

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Speaker 4: about the Seahawks so far. Obviously, they were off to

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Speaker 4: a strong start against weaker opponents like the forty nine

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Speaker 4: Ers have back to back losses here heading into Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: Has anything surprised you about this team?

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Speaker 5: What's your read on it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 13: I think this is kind of what I expected going

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Speaker 13: into this. I expected them to be competitive. I expected

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Speaker 13: them to be better defensively. I think we've seen that,

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Speaker 13: but I also think we've seen them be a little inconsistent.

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Speaker 13: As Mike McDonald puts his program and imprint on what

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Speaker 13: he wants to see from this team, both offensively, defensively,

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Speaker 13: and on special teams. So three and two is a

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Speaker 13: good start, but I think this is going to be

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Speaker 13: kind of the true test for McDonald. This is one

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Speaker 13: of the reasons that you know, John Schneider and the

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Speaker 13: organization brought him on was his defensive expertise and being

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Speaker 13: able to handle you know, offenses like Kyle Shanahan and

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Speaker 13: Sean McVay. He obviously was able to do that when

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Speaker 13: he was with the Ravens last year and they blew

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Speaker 13: the Niners out. Different personnel for the Seahawks, and so

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Speaker 13: I'm interested to see kind of that chess match between

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Speaker 13: McDonald and Shanahan, and then also I want to see

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Speaker 13: how Gino plays offensively and really that entire offense against

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Speaker 13: the Niners. Gino's zero to four including the postseason against

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Speaker 13: San Francisco. If you want to be the man, you

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Speaker 13: have to beat the man. And right now, the forty

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Speaker 13: nine ers, even though they're struggling at two and three,

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Speaker 13: there's still kind of the standard for the NFC West,

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Speaker 13: and so this will be the Seah's first opportunity to

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Speaker 13: see how they match up, you know, with McDonald and

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Speaker 13: a new head coach. I think, right now, it's kind

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Speaker 13: of what I expected at this point in the season,

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Speaker 13: But can they take another step in development against you know,

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Speaker 13: even though they're struggling, I still think they're going to

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Speaker 13: be one of the frontruners in the NNFC when all

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Speaker 13: said and done, All right, Eric.

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Speaker 7: I'm going out the division. I'm going other side of

881
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 7: the country. I mean, I got you here. I want

882
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 7: to know your opinion. What are your thoughts on the

883
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 7: situation with the New York Giants, I mean, Jet, excuse me.

884
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: With Sala Well, I.

885
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 11: Think we found out who's who's running.

886
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 13: That team, right, it's Aaron Rodgister. I mean, he's essentially

887
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 13: he's essentially the head coach because of the amount of

888
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 13: money that they're spending on him, and they basically created

889
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 13: a team with him in mind in terms of what

890
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 13: he can do on offense. And so they make a change.

891
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 13: We'll see if it may a difference. I don't think

892
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 13: that it will. I feel bad for sala you know,

893
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 13: kind of being in that situation and not really getting

894
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 13: to coach the entire team, you know, like he would

895
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 13: have lived, But that's that's part of the deal.

896
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 11: When you work in the league.

897
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 13: There's only thirty two of those jobs, and sometimes you

898
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 13: don't get to pick, you know, the best situation or

899
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 13: things just kind of spin out of control and and happen.

900
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 13: So he'll be fine, you know, he'll he'll he'll land

901
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 13: a defensive coordinator position next year, or maybe he'll do

902
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 13: something this year. I mean, you know, I know the Niners,

903
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 13: with their struggles defensively, probably wouldn't mind having him back

904
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 13: in the fold in some capacity, maybe as a consultant.

905
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 13: I don't know if he would be interested in doing

906
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 13: something like that, but there won't be a lack of

907
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 13: opportunities for him moving forward.

908
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 4: I was going to ask, to the best of your knowledge,

909
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: is there's still a bridge there between Shanahan and Sala,

910
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 4: like a good relationship where Shanahan may explore bringing him

911
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: back next year.

912
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 13: In a word, yes, So I think they would love

913
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 13: to have him. I'm with with the struggles that they're

914
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 13: having on defense. You know, it was weird kind of

915
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 13: you know, being there. I was in the elevator and

916
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 13: and saw Brandon's daily you know, coming down after the games, like,

917
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 13: oh yeah, I forgot Brandon's here, you know, helping out

918
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 13: as anicean coach. I was able to talk to kJ

919
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 13: right a little bit on the field, you know, and

920
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 13: you know, obviously he's him being one of the assistants

921
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 13: there with his relationship with Sorenson. So some you know,

922
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 13: some new faces there defensively, and they're obviously still trying

923
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 13: to figure things out. But I'm sure they would love

924
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 13: to have all of that in some capacity because you know,

925
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 13: they're all in there. They're trying to win a super Bowl.

926
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 5: All right.

927
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: He is Eric Williams kind enough to join us for

928
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 4: an opponent preview on the Huddle. Eric, thank you so much, man,

929
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: We appreciate it.

930
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: Thanks Eric, no pob thanks for having me.

931
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 13: Guys.

932
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 5: All right, you guys were going to take a listen

933
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 5: to Geno Smith next.

934
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: He's the huddle.

935
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: Every Thursday from you to Chu.

936
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: The Huddle.

937
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 5: Let's take a listen to Gino speaking with reporters.

938
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 12: Now.

939
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, everything is just kind of crunched in

940
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 16: and so the main thing is to you know, study

941
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 16: film and getting your body right. So really just around

942
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 16: the clock work for a lot of guys, you know,

943
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 16: younger guys. Been just talking to guys about how to

944
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 16: prepare for this week.

945
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 8: You know, obviously a short week and.

946
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 16: So the key thing is that, uh, you know, mastering

947
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 16: your routine and then you know, getting all the things

948
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 16: that you need that you feel you need to be

949
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 16: prepared for the game. You know, trying to crunch it

950
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 16: into you know, two three days, but you know, it's.

951
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 8: What it is, and we gotta make it happy.

952
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: Like like Donald was pretty uh direct in his assessment

953
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 5: that the run game needs to get going and there

954
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 5: needs to be more opportunities. How do you see creating

955
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 5: those opportunities and see.

956
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 13: That playing out?

957
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it. Uh, Obviously it starts up front.

958
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 16: You know, our guys up front who's been doing a

959
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 16: great job in the run game. Just making sure that

960
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 16: you know, we're we're relying on those guys, you know,

961
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 16: letting them take over the game. And so, uh, girl's

962
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 16: gonna call the game according to what he sees. Obviously,

963
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 16: you know, it's always important to be balanced and to

964
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 16: take advantage of all the weaknesses in the defense. But

965
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 16: you know, our running game has gotta be the you know,

966
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 16: the the defining factor for our offense. And I think

967
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 16: as we go along throughout the season, obviously the you

968
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 16: know pass run numbers they tend to balance up. But

969
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 16: you know, we definitely want to run the ball. We

970
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 16: definitely want to be physical upfront. We want to set

971
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 16: the tone that way, and we need those guys. We

972
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 16: got great running backs, we got great linemen, and we

973
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 16: got to continue to rely on those guys.

974
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 17: How much of the way it went Sunday, it was

975
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 17: just kind of you know, you guys fell behind a

976
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 17: little bit and things like that, kind of having to

977
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 17: throw a lot at the end of the game of things.

978
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 16: Or yeah, I mean, I think it's just how the

979
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 16: game goes sometimes.

980
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 8: You know.

981
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 16: Again, I'm not like out there sitting there counting all

982
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 16: the reps. I'm trying to make the reps count, you know.

983
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 16: So I'm just going out there and doing my job

984
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 16: and putting us in the best position to make plays

985
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 16: and to win the game. So obviously, you know, we

986
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 16: were in the fourth quarter, we were in pretty much

987
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 16: two minutes drill down two scores, you know, trying to

988
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 16: score a touchdown and then getting field goal range.

989
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 8: So it's gonna be more passes than runs. You know.

990
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 16: Time is of the of the essence in that situation,

991
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 16: you know, So I think that's the reason for it.

992
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 16: But obviously, you know, we gotta continue to you know,

993
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 16: fight for that balance that we love.

994
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 18: You know, uh, have one of the lowest play action

995
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 18: rates in the NFL. Some of that's empty sets.

996
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 19: Uh.

997
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 18: Can you talk about the spacing difference of the quarterback

998
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 18: from an empty versus a play action kind of game.

999
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, obviously, when when you're an empty you're

1000
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 16: you know, in spread formations, you're getting five five eligibles out.

1001
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 8: Uh.

1002
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 16: Yeah, so you know it's gonna be more of a

1003
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 16: spread situation versus you know, when you go play action,

1004
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 16: you're usually involving your tight ends. Uh in in the

1005
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 16: past blocking scheme there in the play action scheme, so

1006
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 16: you're only gonna you know, be able to get maybe

1007
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 16: three or four guys out, and so yeah, there's there's

1008
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 16: a difference there. But uh, as far as that goes, Man,

1009
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 16: I feel great with play action.

1010
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 8: I feel great with drop back.

1011
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 16: You know, I just you know, go by what Grub

1012
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 16: calls and and make the plays work. You know, It's

1013
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 16: it's really not a big deal to me, but obviously, uh,

1014
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 16: something that we want to improve on.

1015
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 20: You feeled a difference to the way the defenses are

1016
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 20: responding to the play action plays with the with the

1017
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 20: lack of run game that there's been particular in the

1018
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 20: first half of some of these games.

1019
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say that.

1020
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 16: I think, uh, you know, we hit a big play

1021
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 16: action to Tyler, you know, in the second half their

1022
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 16: first drive, and so you know, I think again, it

1023
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 16: just comes down to what's the best you know, play

1024
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 16: for the situation, given situation. Uh And and these NFL games, man,

1025
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 16: they vary. You know, it's not gonna always be the

1026
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 16: same thing every week. And so for us, man, like again,

1027
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 16: like you said, you know, play action, you need to

1028
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 16: run the ball in order for it to be effective.

1029
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 8: That's what they say.

1030
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 16: But you know, we came out and we hit a

1031
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 16: big play action and you know, we really didn't have

1032
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 16: a lot of plays.

1033
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 8: In the first half, but it still worked.

1034
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 16: So as long as you're doing the right things and

1035
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 16: calling plays at the right time, it should be fine.

1036
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 19: You've seen San Francisco a lot last couple of years

1037
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 19: since you've been starting hear it. What do they do

1038
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 19: well on defense and how maybe have they changed it

1039
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 19: all with any coordinator?

1040
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think what they do well is obviously they're

1041
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 16: great at you know, causing turnovers. You know, you talk

1042
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 16: about personnel, you know, Nick Nick Bosa, you know, one

1043
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 16: of the better.

1044
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 8: D ns in the league. And then you got Fred Warner.

1045
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 16: Mike Becker, one of the better middle linebackers in the game.

1046
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 16: They got playmakers all around the defense. They play together,

1047
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 16: they fly around, they got swagger. You know, they they're proven.

1048
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 16: You know, they're believe in themselves, and so you know

1049
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 16: they come right in. They're not gonna try and you know,

1050
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 16: trick you as far as scheme goes. They're gonna line

1051
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 16: up and you know, force you to beat them for

1052
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 16: sixty minutes. And so we respect them. They've been a

1053
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 16: great team, especially in recent years, and you know it's

1054
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 16: time for us to go out there and get it done.

1055
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 21: They've been the team to beat in this division. They've

1056
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 21: beatn you guys five straight times. I know you didn't

1057
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 21: play in one of those, but what have you made

1058
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 21: of that streak and what you guys have to do

1059
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 21: to end it.

1060
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 16: It's just about this game. Those five games don't help them,

1061
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 16: don't help us. It's about this game and focusing on

1062
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 16: you know this Thursday night. That's all that really matters.

1063
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 11: You know.

1064
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 8: Obviously, yeah you can.

1065
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 16: Say that, but you can go past that and say

1066
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 16: we beat them five straight times, So I think it

1067
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 16: doesn't really matter, right, It's just matters about this game

1068
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 16: and what we do now.

1069
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 18: I think Niners been kind of dismissed it with the

1070
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 18: Seahawks the last few years and celebrated on limitfield and Thanksgiving.

1071
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 18: The Seahawks have the most division titles since they came

1072
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 18: in the NXC West and beat them on the way

1073
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 18: of their first Super Bowl. How much did the locker

1074
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 18: room know about the history.

1075
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 9: Of this rivalry.

1076
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 8: That's a good question, you know.

1077
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 16: I mean, we we got a lot of young guys

1078
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 16: on this team and guys who grew up watching the Seahawks,

1079
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 16: you know, be dominant.

1080
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 8: So how much they know?

1081
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 16: I you know, I don't know, but you know I'm

1082
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 16: aware of it, and I know about this rivalry. You know,

1083
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 16: I was in the league when you know they were

1084
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 16: going at it with Russ and Kaepernick and all those

1085
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 16: great players, and you know, Sharan making that big play

1086
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 16: on Crabtree. So like, those are things that we know about.

1087
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 16: It's all throughout you know, the building, it's all on

1088
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 16: the walls and stuff, and so we know how big

1089
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 16: this rivalry is. These are, you know, predominantly two of

1090
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 16: the better teams in the league over the past ten years,

1091
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 16: and it's always going to be a slug fest. And

1092
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 16: so we, like I said, we respect those guys. They

1093
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 16: have some great players on their side and they're proven

1094
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 16: and you know, as for as far as we go, uh,

1095
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 16: we've proven ourselves as well. But it's a it's a

1096
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 16: big time matchup. You know, it's a big time matchup,

1097
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 16: great players all over the field, and you know, a

1098
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 16: lot to be excited for.

1099
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 13: Can you tell a difference in the intensity of a

1100
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 13: Thursday night game or the physicality of a Thursday night game.

1101
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm not blocking or hitting or tackling, so I

1102
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 16: can't really speak to that. But you know, the sense

1103
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 16: of urgency is definitely always up, you know, especially when

1104
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 16: there's a division opponent. You know, those games are you know,

1105
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 16: they matter the most sometimes and so you know, for us,

1106
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 16: Thursday night game, another primetime game, another chance to go

1107
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 16: out there and prove ourselves. But most importantly, you know,

1108
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 16: to take control of the division.

1109
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 8: You know, that's the important thing.

1110
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 16: It's a big game coming up again still early in

1111
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 16: the season, but our first crack at it, and you know,

1112
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 16: we got to be prepared well.

1113
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 21: With all the shifts and motions in this offense, what's

1114
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 21: different about what it's trying to accomplish then shifts and

1115
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 21: motions and other offenses.

1116
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the main thing is just to put

1117
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 16: stress on the defense, right. You want to make those

1118
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 16: guys communicate. You want to make those guys be spot

1119
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 16: on with their communication and you know, do it and

1120
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 16: not a lot of time, you know, showing more formation,

1121
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 16: get to another let's see how they communicate.

1122
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 8: That's really the main thing as far as we go.

1123
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 16: You know, we're not going to give all our secrets away,

1124
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 16: but you know, we want to go out there and

1125
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 16: play fast. We want to go out there and take

1126
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 16: advantage of what the deed's giving us. And you know,

1127
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 16: the key thing is to see what that is and

1128
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 16: then move forward.

1129
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 21: Is a lot of that built into the play call

1130
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 21: or is that something that you can see when you

1131
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 21: get to the line early and survey the defense that

1132
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 21: you can make that call.

1133
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a great question.

1134
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 16: You know, I'll say, you just got to see when

1135
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 16: we get out there. Man, I mean, I can't give

1136
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 16: you our game playing away, but we'd love to talk

1137
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 16: to you about it, tell you all about it. But

1138
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 16: you know, we gotta we need we need those tips

1139
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 16: right there.

1140
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 6: You know, what are the complexities of a fast start?

1141
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 20: And I know y'all want to start fast, start fast,

1142
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 20: and then how do you balance that with keep them

1143
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 20: from a sense of urgency and letting the game come

1144
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 20: to the offense.

1145
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 16: I think it's just about execution. Sixty minutes of execution. Yeah,

1146
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 16: start fast means playing great in the first quarter, and

1147
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 16: then stepping on the gas means playing great in the

1148
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 16: second and third quarter, and then you know, finishing the

1149
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 16: drill means playing great in the fourth quarter.

1150
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 8: So it's about execution.

1151
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 16: No matter how many players you get, you want to

1152
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 16: be great on every single, every single down because you

1153
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 16: don't know which down is going to be the defining one.

1154
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 16: So you know, when coach said start fast, he means

1155
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 16: to play good throughout the entire game.

1156
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 8: And that's what we're shooting for.

1157
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 17: You how you felt twenty thirty six hours or whatever

1158
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 17: since you guys just last play, But how you kind

1159
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 17: of felt the mood of the team is it seemed like,

1160
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 17: you know, you mentioned after the game you felt maybe

1161
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 17: the Giants wanted it more and things like that. I mean,

1162
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 17: this is kind of what happens Sunday. I guess what's

1163
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 17: the mood of the team right now.

1164
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 16: Yeah, we're locked in. We're locked in. We've you know,

1165
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 16: twenty four hour room. We already passed that game, that's

1166
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 16: already done.

1167
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 8: We can't do nothing about it. But we're locked in.

1168
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 16: For our next opponent, our next opportunity. And like I said, man,

1169
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 16: it's a big game. Everyone is excited. I know I'm

1170
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 16: excited and can't wait to get out there.

1171
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 18: When the energy level is off or different in a game,

1172
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 18: for are the people that.

1173
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 8: Raise it on the sideline?

1174
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the energy is a result of the execution.

1175
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 16: When you're playing well, scoring points, Yeah, the energy is

1176
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 16: gonna be high.

1177
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 8: Right when you're not, you know, moving the.

1178
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 16: Ball or executing to the best of your ability, guys

1179
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 16: are gonna get frustrated. That's just a part of being

1180
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 16: a competitor. And yeah, I mean, you never want to

1181
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 16: go over the top with any of those, you know,

1182
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 16: you don't want to get too excited, don't want to

1183
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 16: get too low.

1184
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 8: It's my job, it's the coach's job.

1185
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 16: Internally, it's each player's job to make sure that they're

1186
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 16: just laser focused and just focusing on the next opportunity,

1187
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 16: the next play, doing their job to the best of

1188
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 16: their ability. That's the main thing. Like I said, emotions

1189
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 16: are always high. This is you know, big time football,

1190
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 16: NFL football. We expect guys to be emotional, but it

1191
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 16: can't supersede your intelligence. And so we just got to

1192
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 16: make sure that we're doing the right things at all times.

1193
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 16: And if I got to step in and say something,

1194
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 16: or if someone else has to say something, that's fine.

1195
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 8: But the main thing is doing your job.

1196
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 13: How do you feel about what the offenses through five.

1197
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 16: Ways man steadily improving? You know, I've seen, you know,

1198
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 16: real improvements just in our preparation and our practices. You know,

1199
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 16: you can tell that, you know, guys are starting to

1200
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 16: get the system down and you know, really understand and anticipate,

1201
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 16: you know, what to do and what's happening next, you know,

1202
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 16: and I think you know again like this is something

1203
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 16: we build throughout the season. You know, you don't you

1204
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 16: don't want to be at your best right now, you know,

1205
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 16: you want to be peaking late in the season, Like

1206
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 16: that's what the best team's doing. So as we're working

1207
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 16: through things, as we're you know, working through the process,

1208
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 16: I think we're continuing to get better and I see

1209
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 16: the improvements, and you know, I think it's been showing up,

1210
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 16: you know, at times on game day, but I think

1211
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 16: it could be better.

1212
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 4: Coming up next. Voice to the Seahawks, Steve Rabel joins us.

1213
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 5: This is the huddle.

1214
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: This, This is.

1215
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 10: The huddle every Thursday from noon to two on Seattle Sports.

1216
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1217
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: and Stacy Ross joining us right now, the Voice of

1218
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 4: the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, Rabes, how's it going.

1219
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 11: It's going great? Guys.

1220
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: How are you fantastic?

1221
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: Glad that we have a quick week here, quick turnaround

1222
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: before we get to Thursday night against the forty nine ers.

1223
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: I can think of a couple answers, but Rabes, I'll

1224
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 4: let you take this one. What's something that you desperately

1225
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: need to see from the Seahawks outside of a win

1226
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: obviously on Thursday against San Francisco.

1227
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 11: Stop the run?

1228
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 13: Yeah, I know.

1229
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 15: At the top of the list would be stop the

1230
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 15: run and run the football. Those are two things I

1231
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 15: know Dave and I are in our Keys to the

1232
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 15: Game last week said the very first one was correct.

1233
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 15: The mistakes and the miscommunication from the Detroit game, and

1234
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 15: some of that got done and some of it didn't.

1235
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 15: As an evidence by the performance against the Giants, just

1236
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 15: made too many mistakes, and so I think stopping the run. Now,

1237
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 15: this is a team in San Francisco, do you wanted

1238
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 15: to throw the ball? I mean, really, they're what the

1239
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 15: second ranked offense I guess in the league right now,

1240
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 15: or third rank or somewhere up there. So you pick

1241
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 15: your poison. But you got to make them one dimensional.

1242
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 15: If you give them a chance to do both, it's

1243
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 15: going to be a long night.

1244
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Rad I guess.

1245
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 6: As the game was going on, it wasn't until halftime

1246
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 6: that I was like, oh man, we've only run the

1247
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 6: ball two times.

1248
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: It was just kind of interesting.

1249
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 6: I mean, you've been around a lot of games, been

1250
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 6: played on teams where you know that kind of happens,

1251
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 6: and it's almost like it gets away from you and

1252
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 6: you don't really realize it, because it wasn't like they

1253
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 6: were trailing in the first half by a tremendous amount.

1254
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 6: It was you know, they had plenty of up oportunities

1255
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 6: to run the ball. How did you think that sort

1256
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 6: of developed? And you know what do you think that

1257
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 6: they're saying afterwards as far as like, you know, we've

1258
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 6: got to start forcing the run in a little bit.

1259
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, I know. That's what Mike said both after the

1260
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 15: game and then again yesterday. That right, the fact that

1261
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 15: we didn't run the ball well, Number one two didn't

1262
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 15: run it enough, didn't give Knine or Zach enough opportunities

1263
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 15: to run the football. And you know, you look at

1264
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 15: how that first half happened.

1265
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 11: I'm with you.

1266
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 15: We heard how many times did they run? Really? That

1267
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 15: just seems so out of character. But then when you

1268
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 15: start thinking about what that first half looked like. The

1269
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 15: defense gives up an opening drive that's like ninety plus

1270
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 15: yards and only with a fumble and one hundred and

1271
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 15: two yard return. Do we take a seven to nothing

1272
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 15: lead to start that football game and then couldn't get

1273
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 15: anything going the rest of the way. And you know,

1274
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 15: Mike said something once I thought that was interesting. You

1275
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 15: have to earn the right to rush the passer. And

1276
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 15: what he meant by that was you have to set

1277
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 15: the situations up by stopping the run, forcing a team

1278
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 15: into throwing the football, and then bringing the pressure to

1279
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 15: rush him. That's how you earn that right, and I

1280
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 15: think the same thing holds true on offense. You know,

1281
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 15: you earn the right, in my estimation, kind of to

1282
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 15: throw those explosive plays to get that ball out of

1283
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 15: Gino's heads by running the football, by pounding it and

1284
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 15: letting that defense know that unless you come up here

1285
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 15: and stop this, we're going to keep after it all day.

1286
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 15: And we just haven't done a good job of that.

1287
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 15: It starts up front. It also, you know, carries on

1288
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 15: to the play calls. Everybody plays a part in it.

1289
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 15: But whomever is going to fix it, it's going to

1290
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 15: have to get fixed in a hurt.

1291
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 7: Hey, Raveza, we might see Byron Murphy this Thursday.

1292
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: What does he do for this defensive line?

1293
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 15: Well, he's I mean he's a load, first of all,

1294
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 15: low to the ground, he's tough, He's like a boulder

1295
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 15: trying to move around there. And yet he is so

1296
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 15: quick that he can jump right around to guard. He

1297
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 15: can he can push the guard back into the backfield

1298
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 15: just about whatever you wanted to do. There's a reason

1299
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 15: why he was, you know, first round draft choice for

1300
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 15: the Hawks and so highly thought of. I'll believe it

1301
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 15: when I see it. I think this short turnaround is

1302
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 15: just brutal for guys, we saw what already has happened

1303
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 15: with Chenna. He just wasn't able to get back and

1304
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 15: now he's hurt again. So I you know, if I'm

1305
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 15: there kind of making that decision, I'm just I'm looking

1306
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 15: at him really closely, and I know Sam Ramsden and

1307
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 15: Strict and those guys with the player performance and the

1308
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 15: training staff are doing the same thing. We had a

1309
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 15: lot of football yet to play.

1310
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Speaker 11: So do you put him out.

1311
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 15: There and maybe tweak it again tonight or is he

1312
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 15: well enough to play? I sure hope he is because

1313
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 15: we could use it.

1314
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: Hey, we've been getting a lot of questions about DK

1315
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: Metcalf and raids. It's easy for us to go, what

1316
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 4: are you talking about? DK Metcalf is absolutely wonderful. I

1317
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: do think though, that there are some fans that I think,

1318
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: specifically because of back to back games with a lost fumble,

1319
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 4: you know, get concerned or whatever when you look at DK.

1320
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 4: I would just love to hear your insight about what

1321
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: you see as him. You know, what he brings to

1322
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: this team, what makes him special, because there is really

1323
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 4: so much return on investment for him as a player.

1324
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 15: Well, there really is I mean, first of all, just

1325
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 15: the physicality with which he plays. He can go up

1326
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 15: over guys, he can run through guys to make catches.

1327
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 15: He reaches out, he's got big myths. He can make

1328
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 15: the catch. Yeah, he's dropped it, He's put it on

1329
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 15: the ground a couple of times, fumbling the ball. Part

1330
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 15: of that is just the fight that he has in

1331
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 15: him trying to pick up extra yards. And there's nobody

1332
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 15: on the planet more aware of that than him, And

1333
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 15: he knows he has to wrap that thing up and

1334
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 15: really hang on to the football.

1335
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 11: But he does so many other things.

1336
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 15: That are so important. A blow the top off of

1337
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 15: the defensive secondary. He can run past anybody. So if

1338
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 15: you're if you're not, you know, playing your defense correctly,

1339
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 15: if your safety is not deep middle, if you've got

1340
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 15: a cornerback that can't quite keep up with a guy

1341
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 15: like DK, then you're going to get a touchdown pass

1342
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 15: thrown on you. DK is probably the last of my worries.

1343
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 15: Although yes, turnovers are a bad thing.

1344
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 11: You can't do that.

1345
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 15: You can help mitigate that a little bit by taking

1346
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 15: the ball away. One of those happened on Sunday against

1347
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 15: the Giants, picked up fumble and running one hundred two yards.

1348
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 15: Those are the kind of things that you want to

1349
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 15: see more of.

1350
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 6: Right, you're a receiver, so what do you what do

1351
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 6: you do in those situations? As far as you know,

1352
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 6: I think there's more of an emphasis on stripping the

1353
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 6: ball out and punching the ball out and peint it

1354
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 6: till them and first started doing that, it kind of

1355
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 6: became all the all the rage. But what what about

1356
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 6: you as far as when you were playing receiver? What

1357
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 6: what kind of things did you have to do to

1358
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 6: to uh protect against that?

1359
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, first of all, realize they didn't have

1360
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 15: that many opportunities to fumble. So that said, I wish,

1361
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 15: you know, I wish I had, But again it's sometimes

1362
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 15: those things are going to happen. I was watching several

1363
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 15: of the games today, is what now Tuesday. I've already

1364
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 15: lost track on Sunday, and then the Monday night came

1365
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 15: and the replays showing, especially last night Kansas City game,

1366
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 15: showing those guys making tackles, and the first thing that

1367
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 15: happens is that punch goes in after the ball, and

1368
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 15: I know our guys practice that all the time. That's

1369
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 15: one of the things that they talk about we got

1370
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 15: to get takeaways, we got to punch that ball out. So,

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Speaker 15: as you said, Dave, you know everybody out there is

1372
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 15: of that mindset. Now we're going to find a way

1373
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 15: to jar the ball loose. And on the other side,

1374
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 15: as the ball carrier, the receiver, the quarterback who's scrambling

1375
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 15: with the ball, you just have to understand that's going

1376
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 15: to be the case. And if you're about to get hit,

1377
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 15: you better wrap that thing up with both arms. I

1378
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 15: don't know today quite how these guys are able to

1379
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 15: retain possession as well as they do, considering the force

1380
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 15: of which guys are tackling and the way they're trying

1381
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 15: to knock that ball out. You know, it's just it's

1382
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 15: something that has come along here in the last decade

1383
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 15: or so even less, he said Peanut Tillman. So that

1384
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 15: was probably a decade ago, maybe even more. But it

1385
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 15: sure is a part of the defensive game now.

1386
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 4: He is the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. You

1387
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 4: can hear him on the call Thursday.

1388
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Rapes, Thanks Rapes, thanks see you.

1389
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Speaker 4: All right, you are listening to the huddle. We're going

1390
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Speaker 4: to jump into a Thursday night preview.

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Speaker 10: Next this This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon

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Speaker 10: to two.

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Speaker 5: On Seattle Sports.

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00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 4: You're listening to The Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1395
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: and Stacy Rost. We are live from Virginia Mason Athletics

1396
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 4: Center on a Tuesday because the Seahawks are hosting a

1397
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Speaker 4: Thursday night football game against the forty nine Ers here

1398
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: at Lumenfield. We're going to do a little bit of

1399
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: a preview and then we are going to take you

1400
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Speaker 4: to Jaron Reed's Prescot Friends. So we'll get started with

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00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: our preview. Bump looking at the forty nine Ers, this

1402
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: is a team that has also struggled this year, and

1403
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: I have liked enough of some things from what I've

1404
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: seen from the Seahawks this year that I'm not heading

1405
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: into this one with.

1406
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 5: Like only a hope and a prayer for a win.

1407
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: I think that there are some nice matchups here Seattle

1408
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 4: can exploit.

1409
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 5: What might they be exploit.

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00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 7: I don't think there's nothing you can exploit. There's things

1411
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 7: that you can challenge.

1412
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 8: I think that the.

1413
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 7: Hawks have the best one of the best pass games

1414
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 7: in the NFL for a reason, because you have Geno

1415
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 7: who makes great decisions, grub who dials up some good

1416
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 7: passing plays and receivers who can get it done.

1417
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: But you got to be able to run it.

1418
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 7: But I think that if there's something that you can

1419
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 7: go into this game feeling good about is the past game.

1420
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 7: But that means office the line has to have to

1421
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 7: protect and everything has to happen. But it's weird because

1422
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 7: I feel good about the pass game, but I realized

1423
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 7: that the run game has to get going for these

1424
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 7: guys have a chance.

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00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: So it's it's a bit confusing at times because.

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00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 7: You want to open it up, but I wouldn't mind

1427
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 7: a stup we're approached to start the game.

1428
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: Is it as simple as like, I'm just gonna keep

1429
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: calling runs, I'm gonna see what they do, or is

1430
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 4: there something that's not clicking?

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01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 7: It's both right, You got to just call it and

1432
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 7: pray that your guys communicate on the line and get

1433
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 7: to where they're supposed to be.

1434
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: But then you got to look and see how they're playing.

1435
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 7: You certain formations and down in distances, count the box.

1436
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 7: Do we run to the heavy side the light side.

1437
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 7: There are things that you can do to try to

1438
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 7: set up what you're doing, but sometimes you balance the

1439
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 7: formation out. You try to get as balanced the guys

1440
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 7: you can with the defense, pick a side, run at

1441
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 7: it and see what happens.

1442
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: Dave, what's the biggest challenge for Seattle on Thursday.

1443
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be stopping at that offense

1444
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 6: and rock party. They're they're pretty good on offense. They're

1445
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 6: number two in total offense. So and it just, you know, again,

1446
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 6: I don't think it's as simple as just plug and play.

1447
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 6: I think Jordan Mason is a really good player. But

1448
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 6: you just look what Shanahan does with that offense and

1449
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 6: how he'll just spread you out and then all of

1450
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 6: a sudden, you know, drop a little ring over your

1451
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 6: the pass rusher's head. And you know, it's just the

1452
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 6: way that they get angles in the run game as

1453
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 6: far as their defense goes, you know, And here's what

1454
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 6: I worry about. And so I'm going to just go

1455
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: ahead and say they need to stop the run. They

1456
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 6: need to make sure Jordan Mason isn't running all over them.

1457
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 6: And that when we were talking about what happened against

1458
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 6: the Giants, and I kind of told you guys off

1459
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 6: the air, there was a play where you had two

1460
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 6: double teams and both defensive tackles shed their guys so

1461
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: they were inside, and then both linebackers went inside.

1462
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: There were four guys in one gap.

1463
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 4: So that's not funny, it is it is.

1464
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 6: So I mean that part really needs to get figured out.

1465
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: So and they will test you that way.

1466
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 6: And their run game they just create, like I said, angles,

1467
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 6: and you know they always talk about the motion and

1468
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 6: you know, all the shifting and all that stuff. And

1469
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: I remember, I feel like they're the team that Shanahan

1470
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 6: that really made that a thing because I remember thinking, well,

1471
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 6: so what if there's but pre snap motion is really

1472
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 6: confusing too, you know, to your to your defense because

1473
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 6: now all of a sudden everything changes, So they've got

1474
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 6: to really be on point.

1475
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: And they only got a couple of days really to

1476
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: look at it.

1477
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 4: Bump, is there something I only left you thirty seconds?

1478
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 4: But if you were to look to a defensive player

1479
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 4: and say, hey, you got a big responsibility in this one.

1480
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 4: Is there a group that you're looking at a specific player?

1481
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: Everybody in the box, you have a gap.

1482
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 5: You have minded, then it is on you.

1483
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 7: I'm sorry it's so short and simple, but that's really.

1484
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 9: What it is.

1485
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, what I need because I only left you

1486
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 4: a couple of seconds. Okay, So we are going to

1487
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Speaker 4: bring on John Boyle in a little bit. We're going

1488
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 4: to take a look at some reports of some injured players.

1489
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 4: He's not going to have final details on injuries, so

1490
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 4: we're also going to ask him just for a preview

1491
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 4: of this Thursday night and some important matchups here right

1492
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 4: now that we're going to take you to Jared Reid's

1493
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 4: press conference.

1494
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 22: We're almost there, you know. Everybody's still fresh and move

1495
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 22: and well five games in right now, going on six,

1496
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 22: but nobody's panicking. Whereas again going back to the to

1497
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 22: the table, working on fixing the things we need to fix.

1498
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 22: And UH, I got full face on this team. We

1499
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 22: practice hard, we work hard.

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 18: During UH last year George Kittle was bragging about how

1501
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 18: they just ran the same play over and over again

1502
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 18: against the Seahawks.

1503
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 11: How can change that?

1504
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 18: How do you make sure this story is different this time?

1505
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 22: Just defensive scheme, giving them different looks, UH, lining up

1506
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 22: different you know, kind of the chess match, trying trying

1507
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 22: to change up the looks that they see.

1508
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 8: So we just don't line up and give them what

1509
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 8: they want.

1510
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 19: What do they do the so challenging as an offense.

1511
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 8: They really don't do much.

1512
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

1513
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 22: They make you play sound and an and and and

1514
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 22: and you have to communicate and know what they do

1515
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 22: and so what they do, they try to do it

1516
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 22: over and over again and see if you can fit

1517
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 22: the same play over and over again.

1518
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 20: As far as run fits. The last couple of weeks,

1519
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 20: what have you what have you seen on film against

1520
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 20: the run? It seemed like, especially on Sunday, that there

1521
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 20: were several times where there was a gap open.

1522
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 8: What are you seeing?

1523
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 22: I mean, Uh, when you look at it, it's just

1524
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 22: little thing. It's just little little things. And it starts

1525
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 22: with communication. I'm just making sure the guys are in

1526
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 22: the right place.

1527
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 8: And that just starts. We're talking before the snap pre

1528
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 8: snap keys.

1529
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 18: There's no Christian McCaffrey this week.

1530
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 13: Mason the son a nice job.

1531
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 5: How is he different as a runner and why.

1532
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 7: Is he about?

1533
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 12: You know?

1534
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 8: I think he's good at at what he does.

1535
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 22: Uh. The forty nine ers put him out there for

1536
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 22: a reason. He has some pretty good runs this season. Uh,

1537
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 22: we can't take him easy, and we gotta respect In

1538
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 22: the same way, if Christian McCaffrey is playing.

1539
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 17: You guys had a lot of injuries on the front.

1540
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 17: Just let her be an out Byron and who might

1541
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 17: be a darroll being out?

1542
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: Is that matter harder?

1543
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 8: All?

1544
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 17: Kind of that communication with the front seven and kind

1545
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 17: of making sure everybody's sort of a.

1546
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 8: Land of no, n no, not at all. It's just

1547
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 8: the next man up mentality.

1548
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 22: We just gotta impu it up a little bit more,

1549
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 22: you know, make sure everybody on the same page. And

1550
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 22: I think you know, before we go out on the field,

1551
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 22: you know, we can sit there and talk about what

1552
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 22: we see, the keys and everything, make sure everybody's locked

1553
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 22: in before we take that play.

1554
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 5: What's the key to good red zone defense?

1555
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 21: It's it's an area of the field that the Niners'

1556
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 21: offense is struggled in. So what are the keys to

1557
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 21: making sure that happened?

1558
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 22: Gap, sound, effort, and communication. I mean, that's that's just

1559
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 22: the basic game period. That's gonna be huge for us.

1560
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 22: As long as we can execute and the guys are

1561
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 22: in the right place and we're talking to each other

1562
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 22: talking about what we see, what our eyes, we can

1563
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 22: play fast quickly.

1564
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 11: Donald said.

1565
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 18: The the line's been playing well, giving great effort to

1566
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 18: Ed's been getting set a little bit of challenge at

1567
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 18: the second level in terms of front bit, how much

1568
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 18: do you get involved in talking with the second level

1569
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 18: and in between games?

1570
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 22: Uh, you know, I just wanna make uh personally me

1571
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 22: when I see him, I talk to 'em to make

1572
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 22: sure that Hey, I'll grab the pad. I'll see if

1573
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 22: I see a look and I see where they could

1574
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 22: fit that I could tell like, look, if this person

1575
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 22: is doing this thing where you can fit right here,

1576
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 22: and it will eliminate a bunch of the space and

1577
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 22: eliminate some of the things that they could take away.

1578
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 22: So they could also get in comports as well.

1579
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 5: You've played the night Ers a lot. How has that

1580
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 5: scheme changed a little bit?

1581
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 10: I mean it used to be so much run.

1582
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, it hasn't changed.

1583
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 22: All they do is run and run and then they

1584
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 22: go play act and then they drop back a little

1585
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 22: bit throw the ball. But I th I think the

1586
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 22: quarterback play, if I can test that question, has changed

1587
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 22: it a little bit. But I mean, you know, it's

1588
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 22: basically probably the same down.

1589
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 8: The scene for the past couple of years. You get

1590
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 8: a quarterback play.

1591
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 19: You've been teammates with Gino back when he was back

1592
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 19: up here.

1593
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 8: You come back.

1594
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 9: He's a stargeant.

1595
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 19: What does he showing you this year with you? And

1596
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 19: he's right now leading the league in a towns yard,

1597
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 19: is doing a lot.

1598
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 22: It's funny cause uh me and Gino, Uh sometimes we

1599
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 22: train at the same spot, and it's the work he

1600
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 22: puts in. You know, he works real hard. He's very

1601
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 22: adamant about his work. He's very disciplined too as well.

1602
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 22: You know, he's a great leader on the offense. So

1603
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 22: I'm really not surprised about what he's doing. I've been

1604
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 22: watching it for a minute, even when he was here,

1605
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 22: you know, learning behind Russ and you know, uh, keeping

1606
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 22: rush sharp. I knew that he could come in and

1607
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 22: we counting him to be our quarterback and do what

1608
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 22: he's doing now today.

1609
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 18: Give him a run that he had last week.

1610
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 5: Did you guys ever, uh light up in sprint's.

1611
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 13: Next to each other?

1612
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, uh when we was running in sprince condition.

1613
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 22: It kind of the problem cause I didn't know he

1614
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 22: was that fast. Geno was actually fast.

1615
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 13: Hm ba wait, but who's fastter?

1616
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 8: Between who? Me and Geno?

1617
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 13: Uh?

1618
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 9: Huh me.

1619
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: See that big man interception yesterday?

1620
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's my boy coming. He got it.

1621
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 22: I'm prepty sure he's excited bout that, especially going back

1622
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 22: playing the cheese.

1623
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 18: Rock Party is taking over three seconds to throw longest

1624
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 18: other than justin fields in the last five years. How

1625
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 18: much do you guys talk about how to keep him

1626
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 18: contained from scrambling and how much your eyes open up

1627
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 18: about getting a guy down when he.

1628
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 9: Takes that long.

1629
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 22: I think that comes from all over all, eleven players

1630
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 22: on the field doing your job, and we can do that.

1631
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 22: Hopefully we can do that same thing and hopefully he

1632
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 22: holds it some more so we can go get to

1633
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 22: him and get some sacks going.

1634
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 8: But we gotta stop run.

1635
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: First, all right?

1636
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 4: Coming up next, let's find out the latest of some

1637
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 4: of these injuries and get a Seahawks preview for Thursday

1638
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: night with John Boyle.

1639
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 10: This this is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two.

1640
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 5: On Seattle Sports.

1641
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: You are listening to the Buddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1642
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 4: Stacy Ross and joining us right now Seahawks dot Com

1643
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 4: reborder John Boyle, Hi, John, how's it going?

1644
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 3: It is going good?

1645
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 4: How are you grateful for a short week? Glad for

1646
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: a Thursday night game? Not just because I love a

1647
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 4: primetime game. You don't have to drive far any of

1648
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 4: us to actually see it. But uh, it is also

1649
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: good to turn around a short week after back to

1650
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: back losses here. What's been the tone from Mike McDonald

1651
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 4: and the press conferences you've attended this week.

1652
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it's just like, hey, it hasn't been

1653
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 19: good enough. We're not you know, we're three and two

1654
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 19: because we haven't played well enough these last two weeks,

1655
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 19: and how do we fix it with not a lot

1656
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 19: of time to do it? I mean, I think the

1657
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 19: term us yesterday is like, you know, we're going to

1658
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 19: keep things pause around here, but we're also going to

1659
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 19: tell the truth about it.

1660
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 9: Damn, I'm such a rookie.

1661
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 6: Come on, but did you come on, wyman, did they

1662
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 6: really spend one hour on did you think about as

1663
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 6: far as because that's what Mike said after the game,

1664
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 6: like we've got to spend like an hour on this

1665
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 6: one and then get right on to San Francisco.

1666
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me.

1667
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I don't.

1668
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 19: I couldn't tell you how much time they really spend,

1669
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 19: but you time is tight this week, like you don't

1670
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 19: have a ton of time to really dwell in the

1671
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 19: last game. You gotta you know, obviously, you go over

1672
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 19: the film and see where you can learn and see

1673
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 19: what teams are going to try to exploit. But it's

1674
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 19: got to be a very quick turnaround. Put that behind

1675
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 19: you and focus on a Thursday game.

1676
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 7: How's the health of this team? Like overall our week five?

1677
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 7: I'm not saying specifics, but when you look at the

1678
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 7: soldiers as they hop off the plane, is it a

1679
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 7: typical Week five?

1680
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: Are you seeing a few more limps than you're used

1681
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 2: to seeing.

1682
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean there's there's a few guys coming out

1683
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 19: of that game limping a little bit. I mean, as

1684
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 19: people saw, Derek Hall didn't finish the game, Reake didn't

1685
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 19: finish the game. We'll see what that means for this week.

1686
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 19: Mike did say China is out, so that's unfortunate. But yeah,

1687
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 19: I mean every team's doing that. Forty nine ers have

1688
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 19: more than their share right now, so you know, Thursday

1689
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 19: games are tough for everybody. It's not an ideal situation,

1690
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 19: but they'll make the most of it.

1691
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 4: What did McDonald or any defensive players I know? Julian

1692
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 4: also spoke with reporters and a couple other guys what

1693
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 4: did they say about the defensive performance against New York.

1694
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 19: I mean, obviously not good enough. They you know, you

1695
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 19: give up that many long drives and the scores they did.

1696
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 19: They you know, they did make some adjustments, They got

1697
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 19: some stops late that they needed to you know, give

1698
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 19: the offensive least a chance to get back in it.

1699
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 19: So there's you know, there's some optimism about what they're

1700
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 19: going to clean up. But you know, especially the run

1701
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 19: game that you know, they you give one hundred and

1702
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 19: seventy five yards there they give up one to eighty

1703
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 19: five and week two in New England.

1704
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 11: So that's that's.

1705
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 19: An area, especially with the four and iras coming town,

1706
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 19: we know they're gonna try to run it.

1707
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 6: So when he talks about that part of it, because

1708
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 6: we're kind of piecing it together, John of you know,

1709
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 6: guys aren't in their gap.

1710
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: I was telling these guys there there was a play

1711
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: where there were four.

1712
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 6: Guys literally in one gap, and you know, is that

1713
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 6: really what Mike was talking about this week?

1714
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: It was more of just like alignment assignment that kind

1715
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: of I think.

1716
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 19: So, I mean it can you know, obviously play to

1717
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 19: play can vary, but you know, one point he didn't

1718
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 19: make a kind of seem to go out a way

1719
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 19: to plaint the defensive line playing well, which I think

1720
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 19: is maybe a coach's way of I think most people see,

1721
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 19: oh they're getting gashed in the run game, they must

1722
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 19: be getting beat up front. I think he's trying to

1723
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 19: stick up for those guys to say, you know, it's

1724
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 19: it's everybody. As he said, it takes eleven guys to

1725
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 19: play good run defense. So the line can do its job.

1726
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 19: But if if a linebacker, say, whoever isn't there, it

1727
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 19: can be a problem. So yeah, it's you know, I

1728
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 19: think you know, they they ask a lot of different

1729
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 19: things this defense. We hear talk about communication all the time,

1730
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 19: and it looks really good and it's good, but if

1731
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 19: guys aren't getting that right, some mistakes can happen.

1732
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 7: NFL has been weird this year already, Yes, sir, and

1733
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 7: all those stuff like how much weirder does it get

1734
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 7: if the Hawks pull off a win on Thursday night

1735
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 7: and beat the Niners after just losing to the football game.

1736
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 19: I mean, that's that's kind of how the NFL goes

1737
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 19: So often. There's so much overreaction week to week of

1738
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 19: like this team lost to so and so they're terrible,

1739
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 19: or you know, team pulls off and upset and everyone

1740
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 19: thinks they're great, and then you know, you know it's

1741
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 19: cliche to say, but you got to kind of wait

1742
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 19: and see where the chips fall and where it's teams

1743
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 19: stand in seventeen games.

1744
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean.

1745
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 19: It's you know, I don't think it would shock anybody.

1746
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 19: It's the home game, and you know, you're trying to

1747
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 19: bounce back. If they come out and play well and

1748
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 19: beat the forty nine ers, you know that's not gonna

1749
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 19: surprise me at all. But they would mean they have

1750
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 19: to play a heck of a lot better than they

1751
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 19: did on Sunday.

1752
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers are need of a win after

1753
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 4: falling to the Cardinals. The Seahawks are coming off back

1754
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 4: to back losses desperately.

1755
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 5: In need of a win.

1756
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 4: Who it feels silly to say who wants it more?

1757
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: Both too, But I guess who suffers more with the

1758
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 4: loss of these two teams?

1759
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I don't know.

1760
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 19: I mean probably the forty nine ers, just because I

1761
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 19: think expectations very different too, coming in, Like you're how

1762
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 19: many years ago they've been in the NFC championship game

1763
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 19: at least, and they're coming off a Super Bowl and

1764
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 19: you know, I'm not saying they're like old and this

1765
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 19: is their last shot, but you get to the point

1766
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 19: of like, okay, you know, with this particular nucleus, we

1767
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 19: have so many swings at a left tol you break

1768
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 19: up the vand a little bit. So you know, both

1769
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 19: teams have high expectations. You know, Mike mcmallal came in

1770
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 19: right away, it was like, this is not a rebuild.

1771
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 19: They expect to win, so they'd be very desponded with loss.

1772
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 19: But I think the forty nine ers, you know, if

1773
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 19: they follow the two and four, it's going to be

1774
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 19: pretty tough for them as well.

1775
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 6: I think this is going to be battle of the

1776
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 6: nerds too, because we already faced mcmcdaniel. Yes, yeah, and

1777
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 6: so now we've got you know, and I think it'll

1778
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 6: be interesting to see how it plays out in the

1779
01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 6: NFC West this this year, because you know, you've got

1780
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 6: you know, you've got Sean McVay down there, and you've

1781
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 6: you've got Shanahan and now you've got a defensive guy

1782
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 6: in the division.

1783
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: I think I got to imagine I'm.

1784
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 6: Sure Mike's not looking at it that way, but that

1785
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 6: it'll be a nice challenge for him and it's some

1786
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 6: pretty good knowledge of I know, he was talking a

1787
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 6: little bit about last year when they came down and

1788
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 6: beat the Niners.

1789
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, what was it?

1790
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: What were some of his comments.

1791
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean one thing he pointed out is like

1792
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 19: I think he wants to you know, dispel this notion

1793
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 19: of like, you know, I think when the CUS hired him,

1794
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 19: people thought like, oh, he you know, he's got the

1795
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 19: Shanahan scheme down and he can beat them.

1796
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 3: Like they didn't just go out and dominate that game.

1797
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 19: They did win, Baltimore did, but a lot of that

1798
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 19: was they were plus five and turnovers. So he, you know,

1799
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 19: Mike did point that out of like, you know, there's

1800
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 19: still a really tough offense and they're gonna play well.

1801
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 19: But it's like you can't just assume that, oh, he's

1802
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 19: got that steam figured out and he's gonna dominate. Like

1803
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 19: it's there's a reason half the NFL is a running

1804
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 19: some variant of a of a Shanahan offense because it's

1805
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 19: worked really well and it's tough to stop.

1806
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 7: And some fans don't realize if you are a ball carrier,

1807
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 7: you will eventually fumble the football and you're probably gonna

1808
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 7: do it multiple times in your career. That's happened to

1809
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 7: Dcam fortunately the last two weeks. Has he addressed it

1810
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 7: publicly or has he kind of has gone about his business.

1811
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 19: I don't know. I personally did not talk to him

1812
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 19: after the game. I'm not sure if he talked to

1813
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 19: reporters or not, so I've not seen him address it yet.

1814
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 19: But yeah, I mean that's really unfortunate. They were both

1815
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 19: very costly fumbled and you know he's gonna know he

1816
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 19: needs to do better at that. But this isn't guy

1817
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 19: that's been fumbling time throughout his career. I went back

1818
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 19: and looked down and think he had fumbled before that

1819
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 19: since like early in the twenty twenty two seasons. So

1820
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 19: it's just you know, bad luck, fluky things. Both cases.

1821
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 19: You're fighting for yards, and I mean maybe there's a

1822
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 19: coaching point there of like just being a little more

1823
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 19: secure when you're fighting for yards or deciding when to

1824
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 19: fight for those yards. But yet, you know, I don't

1825
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 19: I don't think like they're going to get gun shy

1826
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 19: and not throw a DCM meatcalf because you're afraid of him. Fumbler,

1827
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 19: and I think it's just bad luck that's popped up

1828
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 19: twice in a row.

1829
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: I was seeing so many because they had a little,

1830
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 4: you know, note on the about being the most bumbles

1831
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 4: by wide receiver during the time period he'd been in there,

1832
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 4: and so I was seeing a lot of that kind

1833
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 4: of regurgitated. But when you think about it, you're like, well,

1834
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 4: seven lost bumbles over a seven eight year career, like it,

1835
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 4: it's more than you'd want, but you'll take what he's.

1836
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 19: And I think like three or four of those were

1837
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 19: in his rookie year, so right, plus one other receiver

1838
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 19: besides maybe Debo is getting the extra yards. A DK

1839
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 19: is like every other receivers down in most of those situations, So.

1840
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 5: Is that DK Gino? I'll throw in.

1841
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 4: JSN and Tyler are kind of like a key to

1842
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 4: a win. I mean, what's a key to a Seattle

1843
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 4: win on Thursday?

1844
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, turnovers to be huge.

1845
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 19: Obviously, that's big in any game, but especially you know,

1846
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 19: when you've maybe had a few flaws you're trying to

1847
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 19: clean up, that can be a good way to mask them.

1848
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 19: And then the most obvious thing everyone's talking about this

1849
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 19: week is the run game. I don't think you need

1850
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 19: to go out and be dominant in their own game,

1851
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 19: but just getting more of a presence there, more of

1852
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 19: a thread of it to just balance things out, because

1853
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 19: we saw Gina Smith has been playing awesome, but when

1854
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 19: he has to drive back that many times against a

1855
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 19: good pass rush, which a forty nine Ers obviously have,

1856
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 19: that leads to him getting hit too many times and

1857
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 19: you know, seven sacks. A lot of them came late

1858
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 19: in the game, so you know, get the wrong game

1859
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 19: at least more of a presence.

1860
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know this isn't a thing for McDonald, but

1861
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 6: like for the Seahawks fans, we're zero and five against

1862
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers the last five meetings, so hopefully

1863
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 6: we get a we get a ruckus crowd there on

1864
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 6: Thursday night, because yeah, it's been a while since they've

1865
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 6: they've taken this team down.

1866
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 4: Let's do uh, let's see what do I want to

1867
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 4: do here?

1868
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 5: I've got one more minute.

1869
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: Perfectly appreciate you was a running back in the NFL.

1870
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: She would never fumble.

1871
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 5: I never really never.

1872
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 19: To be fair, I don't think she'd see the field

1873
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 19: too much Okay, that's.

1874
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 5: That's a little rude.

1875
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 4: I mean, hi, darren Sprolls, there's lots of undersized guys

1876
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 4: out there.

1877
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 3: You know you and are two pieces.

1878
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 5: It means nothing.

1879
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 4: Okay, My all petite squad is thriving.

1880
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 2: Charge is running back back in the day now Sprowl.

1881
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 5: Someone text in, was it I need to.

1882
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 4: Be with like the five six and under players out

1883
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 4: here just crushing it.

1884
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 5: Let's wrap up.

1885
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 4: I'll just wrap up with the quick answers from each

1886
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: of you.

1887
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 5: A player that you really, really really hope we're.

1888
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 4: Talking about next Thursday, because he had an amazing game

1889
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 4: and you think that could help tip this one.

1890
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 5: Boyle'll start with you Bump, You'll be last.

1891
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 19: You know what, I'm going to go Trey Brown. We

1892
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 19: saw him struggle a little bit. He came out and

1893
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 19: tweeted about it, like you know, y'all are waiting for

1894
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 19: a bad game, and I just he's got that personality

1895
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 19: that I think he's the kind of guy that will

1896
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 19: bounce back well from adversity. And I think that you know,

1897
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 19: they're going to need all you know, we don't know

1898
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 19: yet about Greek's status, but I think they're gonna need

1899
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 19: everybody in that back end.

1900
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 5: To be sharpman.

1901
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 6: He's squared off with the with the k out there

1902
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 6: a practice trade it. I'll with Jerome Baker. Okay, Jarn

1903
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 6: Baker is going to make a comeback here. It's a great,

1904
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 6: really good place. Don't get me wrong, but you know,

1905
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 6: I think he's really integral in that, you know, whole

1906
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 6: idea of everybody in their their proper gap bump.

1907
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 7: J Love and Jenkins because they're going to be responsible

1908
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 7: for Kittle.

1909
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: So very good.

1910
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 4: That works, all right, you guys, this has been the huddle.

1911
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 4: Thank you to John and all of our guests for

1912
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 4: joining us today. Don't forget Thursday night football, Seahawks hosting

1913
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers.