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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Wednesday. We are live

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, and it's The Herd. Wherever you may be,

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Speaker 1: and however you may be watching or listening, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making us part of your day. What if I told

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Speaker 1: you that the red carpet the Lakers rolled out for

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Speaker 1: Luca was made of red flags? I know that hurts.

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Speaker 1: So last night wildly entertaining game, one of the more

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Speaker 1: entertaining games of the year, Magic in la average Orlando team.

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Speaker 1: Powell ben Caro's kind of had an off year, had

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Speaker 1: his second best game of the season shock her against

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. But Austin Reeves played well, Lebron played really well,

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Speaker 1: especially early, had a rundown block in that game. JJ

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Speaker 1: Reddick dialed up a great final game winning shot. How

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Speaker 1: did they lose to an average Orlando team? Because Luca

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Speaker 1: didn't shoot well last night. Luca gagged on the final play,

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Speaker 1: and anybody for Orlando who was lucky enough to have

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Speaker 1: Luca guard them shot nearly sixty percent. Is the bloom

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Speaker 1: off the rose. No, it's what we said yesterday and

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Speaker 1: you saw it last night. The final play is just

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Speaker 1: an illustration of a lingering problem. Lebron and Luca don't

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Speaker 1: play that well together. They both need the ball. Neither

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Speaker 1: be effective, and so does Ruy Hachemora needs the ball

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Speaker 1: to be effective. It's a repetitive roster. We've told you

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Speaker 1: many times the Lakers need to diversify their portfolio. How

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Speaker 1: about some bonds, buy some land, little heavy in tech stocks, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: everybody does the same thing. And Orlando's not a very

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Speaker 1: good team. They've been a disappointment. Polo Benkaro had thirty

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Speaker 1: six points last night, second best night of the year

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Speaker 1: thirty six points. But he became such a big part

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Speaker 1: the reality of what's happening with Luca and Lebron, do

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Speaker 1: When Lebron and Ad played together, Ad did what Lebron

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Speaker 1: So Lebron and A D were a great fit. Lebron

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Speaker 1: clear deficiency that's in Luca's game he's an atrocious defender,

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Speaker 1: So if you want to remain in the Luca business,

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Speaker 1: And so last night, this final play, it's a beautiful

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Speaker 1: And so you saw it last night in the final

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Speaker 4: this is a basketball team that can kind of win

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Speaker 1: He was outstanding. Could not stop him. And so I

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Speaker 1: think when Luca and Lebron were put together, my take was, well,

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Speaker 1: this is not a very good construct of a roster

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Speaker 1: Lebron is like Luca didn't shoot well last night, but

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Speaker 1: We're a year into this. I said this yesterday. Randy

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Speaker 1: The Lakers can't beat any good teams, and Orlando's a

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Speaker 1: and it was in La. I'm not anti Luca. The

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Speaker 1: I think personality is a trait. And Sam Donald was

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to pay him as much as Seattle

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Speaker 1: didn't point fingers, because that's not Sam Donald. Here's what

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Speaker 5: I definitely haven't seen it all, but I've seen a

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Speaker 5: don't understand necessarily what it takes to run an entire

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Speaker 5: I guess the information that they didn't want me back,

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Speaker 1: You can tell, in my opinion, when somebody has good

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Speaker 1: they're an accountable adult, even in loss, even in defeat,

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Speaker 1: even in humiliation, which Sam had multiple times in his career.

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Speaker 1: Never bitter, never a victim, never points a finger, always

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Speaker 1: it is it is interesting that when Lebron, and this

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Speaker 1: he's become a pretty decent, albeit inconsistent shooter, but pretty

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Speaker 1: who leads the NBA in usage, it's Luca. So to me,

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Speaker 1: be in the Luca in Austin business, because Austin absolutely

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Speaker 1: take his role. But I find Luca and Lebron to

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Speaker 1: just be clunky that they're both. I mean, Lebron is

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Speaker 1: still last night great first quarter chase, down block. Lebron's

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Speaker 1: what Lebron can't do that he could do with Kyrie.

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Speaker 1: He can't overcome a teammate's atrocious defense. He's not giving

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Speaker 1: you those minutes, that energy, that defensive rating. He can't

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Speaker 1: do that anymore. Yes, so with Kyrie he could because

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Speaker 1: Lebron at that point was still the best athlete in

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Speaker 1: It is kind of clunky A year in.

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Speaker 6: It's weird, it's not ideal.

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Speaker 7: Remember, this team was constructed for Lebron and Ad to

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Speaker 7: carry the Tords five years.

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Speaker 6: They were all built around Lebron and Ad.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 7: But if you have the chance to get Luka Doncic,

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Speaker 7: got Lebron in that role. So now they have basically

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Speaker 7: duplicative skill set, right. Lebron's always made people better found

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Speaker 7: the open player, not as good of a shooter as

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Speaker 7: Luca and you can't at times. Yes, it's plunky, but

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Speaker 7: let me just remind people. I know everybody's freaking out nationwide,

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Speaker 7: Lakers sting they lost Orlando. Like the Lakers were the

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Speaker 7: best clutch team in the league this season, they were

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Speaker 6: They had a bad night.

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Speaker 7: I mean it was Luca had an open shot, he

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Speaker 7: didn't take it.

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Speaker 6: I like Reddick.

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Speaker 7: Do you like Reddick drawing up a twenty eight footer

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna start this morning with Trent Williams in an

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Speaker 7: Obviously, you need a superstar left tackle in this league

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Speaker 1: He's still really good.

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Speaker 7: Well, he was really good last season and the year before,

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Speaker 6: The Eagles, right, if Trent Williams is out, you're gonna

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Speaker 7: And I'm sure the Niners have a rich database with

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Speaker 7: I mean we talk about him every day. Nick Sirianni

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Speaker 7: McVeigh and Shanahan Colin, I'll believe it when I see it.

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Speaker 6: If Sirianni's job is on the line and this ain't working, he's.

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Speaker 7: Going to take over play calling midseason, Well he's not.

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Speaker 1: Good at it. Sean Payton is relinquishing the play calling

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Speaker 1: That's why if you notice with the Niners, they're as

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Speaker 1: you've seen what's happened to the team Shanahan. When you

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Speaker 1: I don't think the GM. I don't think Joe Shane's

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Speaker 1: what happens is when he went on the HBO show.

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Speaker 1: When you go on these hard knock shows, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you put a camera in all all

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Speaker 1: of our prep meetings or you know, or anybody's job.

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Speaker 1: Like you ever see these like you know these reality

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Speaker 1: shows where they follow a couple around there's always an

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Speaker 1: impending divorce, like it just adds heat to it. So

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Speaker 1: you put a camera in a locker room sitting down

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Speaker 1: with your owner and your coaches, it never looks good.

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Speaker 1: That's why so few teams have great bona fide years

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Speaker 1: when they're on those HBO shows. So Shane isn't my favorite,

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Speaker 1: but the roster's pretty good and some of that is

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Speaker 1: due to him.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So the Malike Neighbors pick was sixth overall. I

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Speaker 7: mean again, if you're drafting top six, you were terrible

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Speaker 7: and you'd bet you better nail that pick. Abdul Carter

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Speaker 7: went third. He slept through half the season team meetings.

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Speaker 1: So he's a great talent and it was a bad draft.

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Speaker 7: It was a I don't know that it's he's even

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Speaker 7: a long term fit there, Like he's got talent, but

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Speaker 7: the guy doesn't want to go to meetings. He's a mess.

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Speaker 7: I will say Jackson Dart's interesting. If we got Brian

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Speaker 7: Dable on the show tomorrow, who's taking credit for Jackson

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Speaker 7: Dart getting drafted Joe Shane or Brian Dable who likes

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Speaker 7: mobile quarterbacks. And remember, Joe Shane is the one who

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Speaker 7: gave Daniel Jones that horrific contract that blew up in

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Speaker 7: their face.

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Speaker 1: Well, by the way, the Colts are about ready to

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Speaker 1: give Daniel Jones another big contract.

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Speaker 6: I mean, your guy is your guy? Ballard still there?

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Speaker 7: That's very scary coming off of Achilles big contract.

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Speaker 1: He got souks, all right, j Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: Lost. So I was watching a lot of NBA last night.

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Speaker 1: I watched the Knicks and the Cavs and the Knicks lost. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: The bigger point is my staff gave me this this morning.

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Speaker 1: We went to last year's Knicks with Tibbs and this

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Speaker 1: year's Knicks team with Mike Brown the new coach. They're

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Speaker 1: the same team points per game, same opponent's point per game,

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Speaker 1: same steals block, same three point shooting percentage, same opponents

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Speaker 1: field goal percentage. Saying this season they're two games worse

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Speaker 1: and that could just be the schedule. It's the same team.

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Speaker 1: Coaching has real limitations in the NBA. Remember when Steve

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Speaker 1: Kerr was the best coach on the planet. His best

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Speaker 1: players were all in their prime. Remember when Spoe was

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Speaker 1: considered the best coach in the league or Greg Popovitch,

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Speaker 1: the older and the less dominant. Tim Duncan got the

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Speaker 1: less great Greg Popovitch appeared to be. And that's the

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Speaker 1: truth about this Knixt team. As everybody is freaking out,

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Speaker 1: you can change coaches I wouldn't have. Well, Tim's is

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Speaker 1: not offensively creative. Well, Mike Brown comes in and they're

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Speaker 1: averaging actually one point more per game, and they're shooting

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Speaker 1: slightly better from outside with Mike Brown. So there you go,

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Speaker 1: massive difference. It's the same team. Your two best offensive

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Speaker 1: players are Kat and Jalen Brunson, and both, especially when

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Speaker 1: they're on the floor together, are your two biggest defensive liabilities.

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Speaker 1: But in the NFL, Ben Johnson can come in and

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel can come in. They can change your roster,

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Speaker 1: they can change your system, they can change your culture

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Speaker 1: in three months maybe shorter. And so Tis leaves, Mike

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Speaker 1: Brown enters. And my takeaway is they were ninth and

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Speaker 1: scoring last year, they're ninth and scoring this year, and

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown's considered more of an offensive coach than Tibbs.

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Speaker 1: It's the same offense. So you know, you know Denver

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Speaker 1: did this. They fired Mike Malone, he was too intense,

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Speaker 1: and they hired David Adelman, and it's the same team.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think they're a gamer two worse. Some

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Speaker 1: of that's injuries this year. So you know, NBA coaches

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Speaker 1: are very similar Knick fans to a good chef. As

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Speaker 1: good as a chef is, he can only do so

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Speaker 1: much with second tier in greets. And the Knicks probably

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Speaker 1: need to go after Yannis. Remember Detroit super young, only

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Speaker 1: getting better. Jason Tatum's coming back for the Celtics, Halliburton's

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Speaker 1: coming back for Indiana, and so you know, the Yannis move.

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Speaker 1: And now you gave up five picks for Michale Bridges,

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Speaker 1: so you lost some draft capital. But the Yannest move

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Speaker 1: because I believe Jalen Brunson will age rather quickly. Smaller

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Speaker 1: player ball centric, I think Brunson's a great player. I

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Speaker 1: think at the end of years he looks worn down.

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Speaker 1: In the playoffs, he can look a little worn down.

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Speaker 1: You know, you just send people at him, you hunt

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Speaker 1: him a little bit in the postseason. So I think

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Speaker 1: I think he got about three to four more great

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Speaker 1: years at Jalen Brunson, and I think he got about

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Speaker 1: three to four more great years at Yannis. That may

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Speaker 1: make sense. Here's Mike Brown, who replaced Tibbs. It's the

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Speaker 1: same team on the loss last night.

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Speaker 10: We had some decent looks throughout the course of the game,

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Speaker 10: but we could knock the shot down. One of the

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Speaker 10: things we have to try to do better, especially all offensively,

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Speaker 10: is play with pace. No matter what we did, we

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Speaker 10: either turned the ball over or we had a tough shot,

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Speaker 10: and so we made some play calls tonight, but we

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Speaker 10: didn't generate anything from the calls that we made.

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Speaker 1: Something interesting about the Knicks too, because I like the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: But Jalen Brunson is going to be thirty here very quickly.

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Speaker 1: He is an old thirty because he played four years

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Speaker 1: of college and at Villanova you play minutes and you

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Speaker 1: play defense like Villanova makes you grind at practice. In

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Speaker 1: games you have to defend. And with the Knicks, he's

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Speaker 1: got the ball in his hands so often that certain players,

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Speaker 1: based on their style, we're seeing Luca who's very ball centric.

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Speaker 1: He's aging quickly. He's not yet twenty seven, and he's

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Speaker 1: not a vertical player anymore, not very often. So Brunson's

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Speaker 1: going to age pretty quickly. He's going to be thirty here,

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Speaker 1: four years in college, and people kind of hunt him

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Speaker 1: in big games and in the postseason. So my take

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Speaker 1: is you can talk about going through the draft with

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, but you probably need to find somebody on

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Speaker 1: his timeline. And I would argue that Giannis, with his

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Speaker 1: injuries and his age and his limitations from the perimeter,

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Speaker 1: is probably a good fit, much better defensive player than

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Speaker 1: kat not as gifted offensively, needs the ball in his

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Speaker 1: hands a little more than you'd like. But Brunson's the

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Speaker 1: centerpiece of this team. He's your quarterback, and he's going

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Speaker 1: to age pretty quick. He has got the ball in

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Speaker 1: his hands a lot. A remarkable study done in the

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Speaker 1: NFL twenty three years of data on what works when

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Speaker 1: you hire a head coach, and we've got ten new coaches,

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Speaker 1: and what works is not much. You won't believe this

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Speaker 1: So the Athletic went back twenty three years, two thousand

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Speaker 1: to twenty two twenty three. They wanted to get a

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Speaker 1: really large sample size and they narrowed it down to

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Speaker 1: the last one hundred sixty coaches hired and are There

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Speaker 1: are nine current head coaches who were hired during the

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Speaker 1: stretch they counted. So the data continues to evolve and

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Speaker 1: they have six categories of what they view as success,

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Speaker 1: the length of your tenure, regular season record, playoff record,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl appearance, and Super Bowl wins. The bottom line

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Speaker 1: is most teams do not hire well. Sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: the one hundred and sixty highers are flops. That's a

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Speaker 1: pretty big number. There are exactly ten of one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty coaching hires over over two decades who I

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Speaker 1: would consider gold star or silver. The gold star coaches

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Speaker 1: are Andy Reid, Bill Belichick. I think you have to

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Speaker 1: count Tom Coughlin. Look what happened to the Giants when

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Speaker 1: he left two Super Bowl, Wins, and Sean McVay. The

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Speaker 1: silvers are Pete Carolyn Seattle, Tony Dungee and Indy, John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh Baltimore, Mike McCarthy and Green Bay pretty good in

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Speaker 1: Dallas two, Sean Payton and New Orleans pretty good in

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Speaker 1: Denver two, and Mike Tomlin. That is ten of one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty. That is uh, let me look that up.

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Speaker 1: That's six percent. So if you look at this year's

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Speaker 1: ten new coaching hires and coaching staffs, statistically, at most

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Speaker 1: one will end up being classified as a great hire,

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Speaker 1: with the odds actually slightly leaning toward none. So if

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Speaker 1: I look at this list radio audience, I'll run through it.

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady's never been a head coach and he's really young.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that'll be a gold or a silver.

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Speaker 1: Likewise for Todd Munkin and Cleveland and Mike Lafleur, Jeff Halfley.

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Speaker 1: I will say I like the GM and I like Halflee,

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Speaker 1: But if you're asking me if it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a six percenter, I'd say no. Clint Kubiak don't love

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Speaker 1: the ownership in Vegas. Jesse Minter, Well, they're going to

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Speaker 1: pay Lamar Jackson so much money, there'll be a regression

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Speaker 1: in the quality of roster. Mike McCarthy is rock solid.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be rock solid though they don't have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I like solid a lot, but Tennessee is

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Speaker 1: political and it's difficult to win. You know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: Stefanski fan, But who's their quarterback? John Harbaugh appears to me,

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Speaker 1: and he's already on the silver list. And what's interesting,

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Speaker 1: the two guys I think have the greatest chance to

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Speaker 1: end up having a long tenure are Harbor Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and they're already on the list. The new guy, and

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Speaker 1: I think Stefanski's a really good higher. But you know,

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Speaker 1: what's the quarterback situation? Even though the division is winnable.

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Speaker 1: I like the owner, Arthur Blank. You know who's the quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Uh so? Yeah. Here's Kyle Van Noya of the Ravens

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Speaker 1: on his former coach with the Ravens taking the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants job.

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Speaker 3: I was really shocked was when he signed a huge

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Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar contract right away with the Giants,

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Speaker 3: not saying that. I didn't think he was going to

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Speaker 3: be one of the top coaches. I would have thought

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Speaker 3: maybe he wanted to take a little time off, maybe

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Speaker 3: he wanted to take a year off like some coaches

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Speaker 3: have been doing the revamp. I truly believe he picked

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Speaker 3: the right spot for him and his family.

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Speaker 1: New York.

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Speaker 3: They're getting a CEO coach that's going to go in

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Speaker 3: there and build that type of brand football what they

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Speaker 3: were used to with Tom Kaflin.

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree. So yesterday I got in this rant.

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Speaker 1: I said, I've been hearing whenever I hear this, well,

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing forever my entire life, social Security is

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Speaker 1: going to run out. I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 1: will fund it. I've been hearing that. I'm sixty. I've

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Speaker 1: been hearing that for thirty five years. It's going to

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Speaker 1: run out. Okay, it's too important to run out, like

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Speaker 1: you know the old saying too big to fail. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna run out. And there's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing, and the media said, no, nuke saved

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Speaker 1: the whales. You know, go green, organic boy, recycling boy. Everything.

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Speaker 1: Over time, we kind of go back to the stuff

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Speaker 1: we know it's gonna work. And what you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of this idealistic high hope stuff. So whenever I

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Speaker 1: just hear the media tell me blank is not sustainable,

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Speaker 1: and I said this yesterday, my only question is if

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Speaker 1: the blank is something we love, it is sustainable because

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Speaker 1: people always find money when they love something to sustain it. Golf.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be rich, but if you love golf,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're retired, you're gonna find a way every

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Speaker 1: The money will just magically appear. You'll stop smoking as

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Speaker 1: many cigars, and you'll lay off the gin for two

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Speaker 1: months whatever. You'll find money for it. So whenever I

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Speaker 1: fund stuff we love. We find money under the couch,

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Speaker 1: to give you a heads up. So LS Louisiana is

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Speaker 1: not a rich state. LSU football reportedly is spending forty

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Speaker 1: they just finished a seventeen million dollar buyout for ed

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Speaker 1: Ors You're on and a fifty million dollar buyout for

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, and they just signed Lane Kiffin to a

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Speaker 1: seven year, ninety one million dollar deal. Again, it's not

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Speaker 1: a rich state. Eighteen months ago, they invested twenty million

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Speaker 1: of funding a four hundred million dollar basketball rin upgrade.

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Speaker 1: And yet they still found forty million dollars for their

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Speaker 1: football roster. Tops in the country. So, folks, they're spending

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two million on Brian Kelly, at

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Speaker 1: Oorjeon and Lane Kiffin. So despite the fact that they

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Speaker 1: got child support in alimony, they bought a Lambeau, you know,

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Speaker 1: four hundred million for the basketball, twenty million for the

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Speaker 1: football buy out, Brian Kelly buy out ed Orgeron, get

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin. That's not even mentioning Lane Kiffin's staff is

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Speaker 1: probably second or third highest paid in the conference. Right

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Speaker 1: because Lane had so much leverage, he got his guys paid,

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Speaker 1: football upgrades, basketball arena, Brian Kelly, ed Orzeon, Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 1: Blank is not sustainable. Tell me what the blank is.

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Speaker 1: And if the blank is college football in the South

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Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes are usc you're going to find a way

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Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, I'm not a tax expert. Expert.

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Speaker 1: I am not a tax expert, but churches and universities

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Speaker 1: have a way of avoiding taxes. There's some gaps there

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Speaker 1: they can maneuver through. And so I saw that story

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Speaker 1: this morning, and I'm like, no, Louisiana is not what

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Speaker 1: you would consider like a Texas or a California, you know,

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Speaker 1: may have your pension issues and you know you're not

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Speaker 1: making budget annually. But they're rich states. They're a wealthy state.

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Speaker 1: Louisiana is not a wealthy state. And they're fun and everything. Football, basketball,

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Speaker 1: multiple coaches, forty million for the roster. If I heard

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Speaker 1: that was Texas, I'd be like, yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Or Notre Dame or Michigan with huge endowments. Louisiana uls.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have those, and yet they found money. So

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Speaker 1: it's just the way. We are big consumers in America,

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Speaker 1: and we find ways We're going to keep Social Security alive.

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Speaker 1: Why because it's too important, because our grandparents need it

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Speaker 1: and we love our grandparents. So it is sustainable and

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Speaker 1: we will pay for it and that's the way it's

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Speaker 1: always been in our country. Our two Albert Breuer around

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