Speaker 1: Look, may oh, I see you, my ow and look
Speaker 1: over there is that culture. Yes, goodness, lost cult.
Speaker 2: Dang dong lost culturistas calling get into it, Mayhem in
Speaker 2: the desert, Mayhem in the desert merch my favorite color
Speaker 2: of the color that works best for me and my
Speaker 2: skin tone, neon. I can't tell if you're joking, because
Speaker 2: Matt is one of our olive toned legends, and you
Speaker 2: really must cherish this fact about yourself. I can I say,
Speaker 2: as a platonic person in your life, here we go.
Speaker 2: You looked really good this weekend?
Speaker 1: Shut up? Were you looking at my photos? Scantily clad?
Speaker 1: I sort of went there in my photos.
Speaker 2: You could have withheld from posting, and yet you want
Speaker 2: to And one of these sort of fringe things that happens,
Speaker 2: one of the fringe consequences that sometimes your friends go, oh,
Speaker 2: sometimes your friends get a little chubb for you. It's
Speaker 2: actually rule of culture number sixteen. Sometimes your friend friends
Speaker 2: get a little chubb for you. Well, thanks, awkward? Wait,
Speaker 2: can I say lefty for you?
Speaker 1: Though? Because I've went and I went to weekend one,
Speaker 1: We're going to weekend two. Yeah, it's going to be
Speaker 1: twenty degrees colder in a good way. It's going to be. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's going to be in the mid seventies for my legend. Oh,
Speaker 1: the god said, it's Bowen Yang's first Coachella. Cool it, dad,
Speaker 1: all the earthquake today. Heard about this when I was
Speaker 1: driving back, couldn't feel a thing because I was gunning
Speaker 1: it in the hov and you were you, you were
Speaker 1: bouncing on that thing that you couldn't even Sometimes you
Speaker 1: were just boom, boom boom. I haven't felt an earthquake once. No,
Speaker 1: that's all. That's not true.
Speaker 2: We were we were in Palm Springs the last time
Speaker 2: we felt an earthquake.
Speaker 1: That one.
Speaker 2: Matre Jahari was sitting next to me and was there.
Speaker 1: We were stoned.
Speaker 2: And we were at the Tropicana eating tropical I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: eating dinner full on earthquake. Yeah, I was eating like
Speaker 2: my chicken piccata or whatever the fuck. And then I
Speaker 2: was like, Mitre Juhari is shaking her ass in this booth,
Speaker 2: what is going on? Which was unlike her, She usually
Speaker 2: just hits very still, eat, very.
Speaker 1: Still an eat.
Speaker 2: And then we realized in the commotion at the restaurant
Speaker 2: that it was an earthquake.
Speaker 1: The loco motion Loco Motion. Kylie was not at Coachella.
Speaker 1: She's everywhere else. She's everywhere else.
Speaker 2: It was the New York Gay Night last week, the
Speaker 2: Kylie Minogue concert, and I was going to try to go,
Speaker 2: but we were at work.
Speaker 1: And I've seen our accident nineteen times in the last year.
Speaker 1: And that's not to say it needs to be an
Speaker 1: accent for me to see Kylie Minogue. It just so
Speaker 1: happens everywhere I am. Kylie MINOGUEZ. That's amazing thing. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's so nice. You must understand how important Kylie. She's
Speaker 1: important to the culture. She's invited on the pod. We
Speaker 1: would have a great conversation with Kylie, starting with the
Speaker 1: Local Motion and going all through her career. Just to
Speaker 1: speak quickly on Gaga, it was unfucking believable. You're going
Speaker 1: to have the best time. And also Charlie was amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to go with you. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. In order to sort of get there,
Speaker 1: that we have this other milestone that's happening, which is
Speaker 1: this episode that we're doing today. I have to say,
Speaker 1: probably the reason I do comedy is sitting across from
Speaker 1: us Yea and What an instant, What a nice, soothing
Speaker 1: soul moment that it's so easy to be around her.
Speaker 1: I walked in.
Speaker 2: She was making coffee, stirring her monk with a knife.
Speaker 1: It's a knife. It's a knife period period. So this
Speaker 1: is a big day.
Speaker 2: Bo She's already podcasting royalty number one in the land,
Speaker 2: not even a month into the game and she's number
Speaker 2: one in the land. Good hang on Spotify. Hey, Joe Rogan,
Speaker 2: shut up, get bent over, pull it. It is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Just as the title suggests, it's a good hang. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about the format because there are some innovative things
Speaker 2: you thought you couldn't innovate in the podcasting space. No,
Speaker 2: you haven't met our guests. Yeah, restless like Tor's back.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite live comedy shows in the last
Speaker 2: lifetime of mine and my last lifetime. It's my favorite
Speaker 2: live comedy show.
Speaker 1: The blueprint of two people doing comedy literally it had
Speaker 1: never been anyone before Carol Burnett and Julie Andrews. Who
Speaker 1: that's my example, gay man, Julie Andrews and Carol Burnett
Speaker 1: is like, that's so funny. Like you think of them
Speaker 1: as like the comedy icon, but.
Speaker 2: We forget about them as comedy duo icon Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They turned it. You know what we need to do.
Speaker 1: We need to do Avid and Costello meet the Monsters.
Speaker 1: But Matt and Bowen meet the monster. Yeah, I'm pitching
Speaker 1: this to Universal. Have us meet the wolf Man. I'm serious.
Speaker 1: This is a film franchise. This is Matt and Bowen
Speaker 1: meeting the Fracula. Meet the bride of Frankenstein, Victoria Frankenstein.
Speaker 1: We're coming for her. Have you heard about Victoria Grant Frankenstein,
Speaker 1: the great granddaughter of Well, let's ask her after we
Speaker 1: bring her in. Everybody. Hey, that was like being at
Speaker 1: my own funeral. I was associating like rise like the monsters.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about Victoria Frankenstein. Oh my gosh, don't
Speaker 1: we asked? Seeing the same exact thing in her episode.
Speaker 1: We didn't mean to.
Speaker 2: Yes, and she she mixed up with Lisa Frankenstein the
Speaker 2: Diablo Tody movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, but have you heard about Victoria Frankenstein? Yes? I
Speaker 1: think so. She basically so, there's the new theme park
Speaker 1: in Universal Studios in Orlando. Epic Universe, and there's a
Speaker 1: the Dark Universe, which is sort of like all the
Speaker 1: Monsters and the Big Ride. In the pre show, it's
Speaker 1: hosted by Victoria Frankenstein, who is like the girl boss,
Speaker 1: great granddaughter of Victor Frankenstein, and her whole gig is
Speaker 1: she wants to show that the monsters can be contained,
Speaker 1: and she wants to basically take you around the mansion
Speaker 1: so you can see all the monsters, and you know,
Speaker 1: something goes wrong.
Speaker 3: She's like domb energy, like why I got it covered?
Speaker 3: And then yeah, she's in over her head.
Speaker 1: No, And this just goes to show you, like women dom,
Speaker 1: we wanted to know, should women be in charge? That's
Speaker 1: what we're here to talk about. The answer was.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, maybe for a chance.
Speaker 1: I think because it's a theme park ride and something's
Speaker 1: gonna go wrong, people are gonna have a lot to say.
Speaker 1: Everyone leaving is all those Florida people leaving, Like, well, I.
Speaker 4: Know you guys are big theme park people.
Speaker 1: I am real not, so this is where you and
Speaker 1: Tina sort of go.
Speaker 3: In fact, I just did a show on Orlando and
Speaker 3: she was very excited to get me to go on
Speaker 3: the rides, and I did not want to go on
Speaker 3: the rides. I'm not a theme park person, all right, Sorry,
Speaker 3: I know it's.
Speaker 1: The first of all, we are the ones who should
Speaker 1: probably take a seat right reaching Our guide was talking
Speaker 1: about you too. Wait, okay, was it samm Yeah?
Speaker 3: Lovely and he he had the best time with you.
Speaker 1: We had the best time with him, and he was
Speaker 1: He was really a classic. He was the perfect prototype
Speaker 1: of what you want that person.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Disney World is overwhelming. Oh yes, one of
Speaker 3: the and too many like too far.
Speaker 1: Away, too far away to spread out. You spread out
Speaker 1: a lot of the.
Speaker 2: Same images, kind of like being projected at you from
Speaker 2: like Plato's cave.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're like, this is this
Speaker 1: an illusion? It's not, it's real, Like you have to
Speaker 1: come out.
Speaker 3: It's I'm also at an age where I don't want
Speaker 3: to be shook anymore. Like I don't want to be
Speaker 3: I don't like being nauseous. I don't like the lack
Speaker 3: of control. It definitely feels like I never get to
Speaker 3: the It's like when people say when you get a
Speaker 3: runners high, it never happened. That's what it feels like
Speaker 3: at those theme parks, which.
Speaker 4: Is like, are you feeling it? And you're like, I'm
Speaker 4: so sorry, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you know what's the what's the
Speaker 1: thing that I never realized about all theme parks until
Speaker 1: I brought a friend who pointed it out. And then
Speaker 1: I can't hear it every time. The music never stops.
Speaker 1: It's always D D D. And if that's how it
Speaker 1: is in my brain all the time, I think maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we share that with Tina, but like, it never
Speaker 1: stops being adventure music in my brain. And Greta was like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't stop, does it? It never stops. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess not.
Speaker 3: And Dratch and Tina and I were all together and
Speaker 3: they went and had dinner at Epcot Mexico and I
Speaker 3: was supposed to meet them and they texted me and
Speaker 3: they were like, you would hate it here dot com
Speaker 3: And I was like, friends, real friend.
Speaker 1: I literally know where they went, because those guides have
Speaker 1: a place they take us. And then there's there's an
Speaker 1: and there's a Neil Patrick Harris cocktail. There's a Neil
Speaker 1: Patrick Harre's cocktails in a doogie howser cocktails and I
Speaker 1: did love it.
Speaker 2: Neil, I'm sorry, Rocks, that's okay. You guys are normally
Speaker 2: so aligned on your activities on tour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're pretty we we do like very similar things.
Speaker 3: We go to Bloomingdale's, we like get us buy a sweater,
Speaker 3: we like have you know we watched like we got
Speaker 3: to watch the White Lotus finale in our hotel together
Speaker 3: and that was really fun. And yeah, we do like
Speaker 3: simple like we're.
Speaker 1: Like, ooh, like, did you see there's like a place.
Speaker 3: For croissants around the corner. We'll go get one. That's
Speaker 3: about it. But yeah, this one we were not aligned.
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. But they knew that the Mexican
Speaker 2: place was not your That is.
Speaker 1: What a real friend.
Speaker 4: Don't you feel like a real friend knows, don't come here.
Speaker 1: Real sometimes says you're not invited for your own good.
Speaker 1: That's a real culture number thirty. A real friend sometimes
Speaker 1: says you're not invited for your own good.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about this idea. Do you feel like your
Speaker 2: life is scored? Because I'm watching the Pit now and
Speaker 2: I'm loving that. It's not love the Pit.
Speaker 1: I love that. I gotta get into the Pit, I say.
Speaker 2: We wrote a parody of The Pit called The Ditch,
Speaker 2: and it was East London. It took place in Shortage
Speaker 2: medical just me Ago and John Ham speaking in East
Speaker 2: London accents, and it was it did not do great
Speaker 2: address because no one understood what we were saying.
Speaker 1: So that's sometimes you got to wait for the culture
Speaker 1: to catch up. I feel like the people are just
Speaker 1: now talking about the pit.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I feel like TikTok loves a pit. My
Speaker 4: TikTok loves the pit.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I look, Noah Wiley, I've been a
Speaker 3: no stand for twenty I mean I've I watched the
Speaker 3: entirety of Ear three times.
Speaker 1: That was your show.
Speaker 3: I watched it again during the pandemic, and then I
Speaker 3: watched it in when it came on. I used to
Speaker 3: be doing like improv at night and waiting tables. That
Speaker 3: was it, And I would smoke a bong at like
Speaker 3: seven o'clock and watch er reruns Let's Go because it
Speaker 3: used to be on like TNT, right, and then like
Speaker 3: go to work or go to a comedy show. And
Speaker 3: so I feel like I've known Noah forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to see him back in Scrubs has to
Speaker 1: be surreal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, doctor Robbie's not in scrubs. He's
Speaker 3: got audio, he has a hoodie.
Speaker 1: Why I need to watch the Pit? He's you know
Speaker 1: it's up. Yeah, but it's so good. It's so good
Speaker 1: a bong. Huh you were for real?
Speaker 4: I used to Yeah, that was back, you know.
Speaker 3: God, let's see ninety I was living in the East Village,
Speaker 3: so I was twenty six maybe.
Speaker 1: Very similarly too old to know. My our friend Dave
Speaker 1: had a bong probably until we were twenty seven and
Speaker 1: then twenty eight, and then it broke, which is the
Speaker 1: only reason we stopped using it. But I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: how high I We get to watch Homeland, like fully,
Speaker 1: Claire Dane's having a very real breakdown, Like we have
Speaker 1: to get her in that chair at some point and
Speaker 1: be like, how did you survive? Because she's shaking and
Speaker 1: convulsing because of her own brain. And I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: so high, like just taking that.
Speaker 3: Actually, when I was coming up here in the elevator,
Speaker 3: there was a gentleman, a gentleman, a nice young gentleman,
Speaker 3: and a young a chart with all this red string
Speaker 3: and they and it smelled so much like weed.
Speaker 1: They really really reeked of weed. And I was.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I thought to myself, oh weed, remember that,
Speaker 3: Like it's been so long and I just had that.
Speaker 3: It was like nostalgic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might be hitting that developmental time now between
Speaker 2: the two of us.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I don't know. I was so back,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah you were. Well, actually it is it gets
Speaker 1: What I like now is that there's so it's such
Speaker 1: a science now that you can kind of know exactly
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, yeah, I'm yeah.
Speaker 3: That was a different time, and I felt like I
Speaker 3: had no real responsibilities. Even though I felt like my
Speaker 3: life was overwhelming, I didn't have a lot of responsibility.
Speaker 3: So it was like, okay if I was a little stone.
Speaker 3: But now I don't think I could handle it not anymore.
Speaker 2: I think my ideal trip, that my ideal trip is
Speaker 2: what you and I have connected on, which is what
Speaker 2: you've talked about in the last time I saw Wrestless Slug,
Speaker 2: which was going to Iceland one of your sons or
Speaker 2: both of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with one of my sons just enjoying, just getting
Speaker 1: high off of nature. Yes, how about that.
Speaker 3: Well, I also think that I've gotten to a point where,
Speaker 3: I mean I don't barely drink anymore. Where I know
Speaker 3: this sounds super cheesy, but actually being conscious, like actually
Speaker 3: just being in the moment is like is like a
Speaker 3: high is a win because I'm always future tripping or
Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about what I just said or did,
Speaker 3: and I just feel such less personality hangover in general
Speaker 3: when I'm not altered. So I'm not that into being
Speaker 3: altered right now, wow with like and also I'm older
Speaker 3: and it just like you need a lot of time
Speaker 3: to recover.
Speaker 4: And I stopped drinking right before.
Speaker 3: The pandemic and was really grateful that I didn't really
Speaker 3: do it during it. And now it's not a it's
Speaker 3: not I'm not in a program or anything, but just
Speaker 3: like every once in a while, maybe have a thing,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 1: Don't really need it, and it feels very good yea. Honestly,
Speaker 1: whenever I take my like six weeks, I feel like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is the new me. But I had over. I
Speaker 1: don't know what weeks. I don't know what it is
Speaker 1: about the past two years. But maybe it's just mid
Speaker 1: thirties where I'm just like sobriety maybe and then i'm
Speaker 1: and then and then like that all goes away. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: not for me. Yeah, I do think I can. If
Speaker 1: I can look to the future, I can see it
Speaker 1: for myself. At some point I can see it.
Speaker 3: Alcohol is poison, that's yeah, but it's okay. You know,
Speaker 3: you can have a little poison, like just like sugar
Speaker 3: is poison. You can have but like it can't sugar.
Speaker 3: It's all poison. Yeah, but I think, especially as a
Speaker 3: woman of a certainty, you do start to feel the
Speaker 3: poison a little bit more. The poison really turns on you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and just you don't get the same kind of thing anymore.
Speaker 1: It goes away?
Speaker 2: Is it the microplastics in our brain as well? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to bring this up.
Speaker 4: Are you worried about microplastics?
Speaker 2: We were thinking of writing an update about because this
Speaker 2: thing came up in last week. This New York Times
Speaker 2: piece came out about microplastics. The equivalent of a spoon
Speaker 2: is in your head? Is it all of our brain?
Speaker 1: No? Stop?
Speaker 2: The equivalent of you guys haven't heard this, The equivalent
Speaker 2: of a plastic dairy Queen's blizzard spoon is in our
Speaker 2: brains and little granules.
Speaker 1: And there's really nothing we can do about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, First of all, you can't tell me that
Speaker 1: we're not better off than generations are gone. We drink water?
Speaker 1: How about that? Well? That is they didn't back we.
Speaker 3: Did not drink water growing up about water and ever,
Speaker 3: are you being serious?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: In school, no one made us drink water. No one
Speaker 3: talked about water. Water was not a thing like you
Speaker 3: would go to the water fountain and you would drink
Speaker 3: like you you would drink and.
Speaker 1: Drink because you didn't realize.
Speaker 3: No water bottles, you didn't have water. Like maybe at
Speaker 3: a soccer game they would have water.
Speaker 4: Maybe, but it was like Gator. We never checked. I
Speaker 4: never said did you drink water? They never brought water.
Speaker 1: There was never. Now I'm obsessed with yes, do you
Speaker 1: have one of those things, those jugs that says the
Speaker 1: time of day?
Speaker 3: I did have that, but and it was positive reinforcement,
Speaker 3: like you're doing it, you're doing great, You're almost there
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 1: But now Molly Shannon had one of those on the
Speaker 1: you know, she was like, isn't it great? Isn't it
Speaker 1: Greative reminds me I love it drink water to talk
Speaker 1: about how great it was? Something that's just so great
Speaker 1: about it. I'm saying, No, I am.
Speaker 3: I have a basic bitch like White Girls Stanley that
Speaker 3: I love because I like to skip it like a
Speaker 3: like a Durbil, like I like the strong.
Speaker 1: This is the second episode in a row that Gerbils
Speaker 1: have come up. There's something in the culture. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: guinea pigs road in set large having a moment. Right, No,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying, is like when I was
Speaker 1: brought up, it was not water on the table. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. There was never a coke, a diet
Speaker 1: coke and a sprite two liters each.
Speaker 4: Don't forget about milk, babe.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, we we shared this thing
Speaker 1: where we were. We came up when milk was king you,
Speaker 1: you were not gotting, that's for sure. You would chug
Speaker 1: a glass of milk at least once a day. They
Speaker 1: said too. There was a time they were saying too.
Speaker 1: It was like Cindy Crawford on the cover of whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck with her got milk mustache, being like, if
Speaker 1: it's not too you're gonna die of osteoporosis. And one
Speaker 1: of the one of the things I remember my nana
Speaker 1: is saying to me when I was little was she
Speaker 1: looked me in the eye and said, osteoporosis is not fun.
Speaker 1: And I was I'm like, and now I'm scared. And
Speaker 1: where is that in the culture? Now like, have we
Speaker 1: just forgotten about osteoporosis.
Speaker 3: Or not only have we not forgotten about it, but
Speaker 3: as a woman of that age, all my friends are
Speaker 3: getting bone density.
Speaker 1: Tests and DEXA scams.
Speaker 4: And we are and everything is coming home to roost
Speaker 4: because a couple of things you get.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this.
Speaker 4: You get all your calcium before the age of thirty.
Speaker 4: Number one.
Speaker 3: Number two, if you are a fair skin like myself,
Speaker 3: you don't get enough sun, you don't get enough vitamin D.
Speaker 4: Vitamin D you should be taking it. You're pretty screwed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you guys might be, Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Know, but but and also there's these things in LA
Speaker 3: that I'm obsessed with that I want to go to
Speaker 3: which are like, uh, they're they're like salons for people
Speaker 3: who have osteopenia, which is pre osteoporosis, where you just
Speaker 3: you know, you have to do heavy lifting.
Speaker 4: Now like now I have to lift.
Speaker 1: Weights, So you have to do a lot of weights.
Speaker 3: Yes, and so you have to take your calcium and
Speaker 3: you have to do weights. And so there's like programs
Speaker 3: where it's like you do leg presses, you do whatever,
Speaker 3: and it's just designed for women my age who are
Speaker 3: smart enough to get their bone density tests and they're like,
Speaker 3: I have a little bit of you know, osteopenia in
Speaker 3: my hips. I need to do leg presses. Wow, so too,
Speaker 3: I know a lot about osteoporos.
Speaker 1: They're penia clubs.
Speaker 3: There's penia and osis or penia and porosis. So yeah,
Speaker 3: one is pre one is you got it? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: there's things you can do, but you kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, we're our bones stop growing at like eighteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when I started working out like more seriously
Speaker 1: a few months ago, my trainer literally said it's great
Speaker 1: that you start now because at thirty five your bone
Speaker 1: density is completely gone, and then by thirty seven you
Speaker 1: lose any metabolism you ever had. And I was just
Speaker 1: like going acrossside, like oh.
Speaker 3: No, oh wild that as a woman, you go through
Speaker 3: being like a sex object and then maybe a mother,
Speaker 3: and then maybe like menopause, and then they're like and
Speaker 3: on your way out, you need to eat forty five
Speaker 3: grams of protein a day and lift very heavyweights or
Speaker 3: you're all your bones will break.
Speaker 1: If you don't turn into a monster.
Speaker 4: Now it's like you got it, and you're like what
Speaker 4: what You're like, this can't be true.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: I have to go to the gym and lift the
Speaker 4: heaviest I've ever lifted.
Speaker 2: Hey, what if we shuffle the order? What if you
Speaker 2: started low bone density? Yeah, then you become a sexy
Speaker 2: or no. I think it'd be fun to end on
Speaker 2: incredible style.
Speaker 4: That would be incredible.
Speaker 3: I mean things are changing, but you know, can you
Speaker 3: do I'm sure you can do push ups?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So they say women need to be able to do
Speaker 3: like ten or eleven push ups, real push ups day,
Speaker 3: and you got just like okay, well I'll try.
Speaker 1: It's hard.
Speaker 2: Are you saying these are clubs specifically for OSTEOPI women.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like physical therapy.
Speaker 1: An I agree because my age, I'm the youngest oldest
Speaker 1: person I see, and that you like it, yes, okay.
Speaker 3: Thirties and forties are a little tricky because you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm not as young as it used to be, but
Speaker 3: I don't feel old, and nobody like old people dismiss you.
Speaker 3: They're like, you're thirty whatever, like you know, but when
Speaker 3: you're in your fifties, you're not young, right, and young
Speaker 3: people do not think you're young no way.
Speaker 4: Fifty is like a nightmare to them. That wakes them
Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night. But you're you
Speaker 4: feel young and old people are like, so you're the
Speaker 4: youngest oldest person you.
Speaker 1: Mus say, and please please shut me up.
Speaker 2: If this sounds patronizing in any way, I feel like
Speaker 2: this current crop of fifty somethings is still aspirational to me.
Speaker 4: Oh agree, I think I would rather.
Speaker 2: Be living your life, Honest to god, I would rather
Speaker 2: be going to Bloomingdale's and museums and things every day
Speaker 2: on tour than the bullshit that the thirty thirty year
Speaker 2: old school.
Speaker 1: We just did that. We had that when we were
Speaker 1: and we were in Berlin. We went to Bergheim and
Speaker 1: we were there. We got we went at like Saturday
Speaker 1: at two am, thinking there was going to be a line. No.
Speaker 2: We we soared in there like had a time with
Speaker 2: friends with acquaintances. We have have been in that club
Speaker 2: for forty eight hours. Yeah, well you know people that
Speaker 2: have been there for days. Like, let's see how long
Speaker 2: we last. We left after our four.
Speaker 1: It was like maybe five or six. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: because it was just like not it was. It was great.
Speaker 1: We were the best time, but we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, we'll go home, we'll catch some disease.
Speaker 1: We'll come back later. I text Bowe, I'm like, guys,
Speaker 1: say something, what if we didn't go back? What if?
Speaker 1: And then we walked to a museum and walked back
Speaker 1: because we realized we had to pay? So what do
Speaker 1: we do that afternoon? We walked to the museum and
Speaker 1: walked back, didn't even go into the museum.
Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you that if you enjoy that now,
Speaker 3: the future is very bright, because best decade yet for me,
Speaker 3: fifties by far, most decade, way better.
Speaker 4: And also I have to say to your point, bo, when.
Speaker 3: Like women my age or the age of in our fifties,
Speaker 3: it used to be kind of like maiden mother Crone.
Speaker 3: Those were the those were the maiden mother Crone, right,
Speaker 3: And now I think that we've managed to carve out
Speaker 3: our generation. My generation has carved out a step before Crone.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of like I'm calling it like boss
Speaker 3: or something. But it's some stage before you become like
Speaker 3: the wise witch where you are allowed to actually like,
Speaker 3: you know, enjoy the fruits of your labor, not be
Speaker 3: so beholden to like external validation, and you still like
Speaker 3: feel good.
Speaker 1: I think it's just a full supplanting of crone.
Speaker 3: Well there is I kind of what crone means is
Speaker 3: like wisdom and you know, like medicine woman.
Speaker 4: But it's a tough word. It's a tough word.
Speaker 2: It's a tough word, but it's a word that I
Speaker 2: associate with sex and the city. Oh, there's the theory
Speaker 2: that they each represent the four crones and like classical.
Speaker 1: I didn't know there were classical chromes. There were there,
Speaker 1: there's like the four crones. And they were like, is
Speaker 1: it Shakespeare's crown? They're like, yeahs crones women. No one knew,
Speaker 1: No one knew. They didn't have the words for it.
Speaker 1: Back then, Amy, he was always bloated and cron.
Speaker 4: We should call it like like like medicine woman.
Speaker 1: Diva diva Wait, diva? Is this is this extra step
Speaker 1: that you're talking about? Okay, it's literally diva? Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm wondering something about you too, though, about like like
Speaker 1: you being like I can't wait to get to Bloomingdale's Like,
Speaker 1: but you guys also like share the fact that for
Speaker 1: a long time, you guys did entertainment's most difficult job.
Speaker 1: So did you feel like that like socially also was
Speaker 1: like after that, on the other side of that, you
Speaker 1: were like, okay, you also had.
Speaker 3: The kids, But I didn't have kids when I was
Speaker 3: at SNL And I cannot believe the way I socialized,
Speaker 3: Like SNLZ is such crazy extroverted social job. Right, you
Speaker 3: see hundreds of people like during the week, and then
Speaker 3: you have to do the show, and then you have.
Speaker 1: To host, the host, the host exactly.
Speaker 3: Then you have to go to the party, which I
Speaker 3: know is like, oh, go to a party, but it
Speaker 3: is still a work function, even as fun as it is,
Speaker 3: and I cannot believe, like it is so much energy,
Speaker 3: yes that I can't believe I did it.
Speaker 4: I really and I'm glad that I was younger when
Speaker 4: I did it.
Speaker 1: I'll just never forget because I told you this when
Speaker 1: we first met. But I was there. I was a
Speaker 1: stand by kid, so I would wait on the standby
Speaker 1: lines and I would go and then I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: I believe it was the episode that Anne Hathaway hosted
Speaker 1: with the Killers, which we talked to Seth about this episode,
Speaker 1: and that was the very first Lawrence Welk show, and
Speaker 1: then a couple weeks later on the Weekend Update, Thursday,
Speaker 1: you did the Palin rap not like nine months pregnant, right,
Speaker 1: and I have never forgotten how her Killian that was
Speaker 1: of you doing that, Like that has to feel like
Speaker 1: a highlight of doing that show. Yeah, like with carrying
Speaker 1: your child almost to full term, like barking out that
Speaker 1: song next to yeah, this figure in culture like and
Speaker 1: I'll just that was It felt like a lightning bolt
Speaker 1: had hit the studio at that moment. Thank you.
Speaker 3: That was really fun, really fun it had to be,
Speaker 3: and very exciting and just kind of felt Yeah, it
Speaker 3: felt like there was a feeling during that whole time.
Speaker 3: Remember when we thought that was a crazy election. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but like there was a feeling that whole time of
Speaker 3: just the audience was really paying attention. Everything was and
Speaker 3: when you're really pregnant, giant pregnant, you have a ton
Speaker 3: of power because people are a little worried for you.
Speaker 3: But you also you know, and so we had a
Speaker 3: lot of fun with it, Like me and Emily Spyby
Speaker 3: we wrote a scene about me knocking things over. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Emily was also pregnant during the during that time, and
Speaker 3: there was just this feeling, you know, It's kind of
Speaker 3: like Chekhov's gun, like is she going to give birth?
Speaker 1: Like? But was it the episode? Was it Josh Brolin
Speaker 1: that hosted where it was just.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was really into me, He's so sweet.
Speaker 1: That was the Josh Brolin episode.
Speaker 3: Entara Palin just came on Update and she was a
Speaker 3: really good sport and she was like, okay, sure, I'll
Speaker 3: just dance next to you. And I remember thinking a
Speaker 3: wonder if her team has really told her what this is.
Speaker 4: But that's okay, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna and I think my pregnancy helped, Like it
Speaker 3: was like how do you how can you say no
Speaker 3: to the lady? And it was so it was thrilling
Speaker 3: at the moment, it was really fun. It was really fun.
Speaker 3: And then I gave birth, like, uh, let's see maybe
Speaker 3: like four or five days later.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember Update. He was like, yeah, he's not
Speaker 2: here because she's having a baby. And that was the
Speaker 2: first John Ham episode. Yes, circle right the show.
Speaker 4: And him was the host.
Speaker 1: I mean the millions. Craziest thing about that episode, which
Speaker 1: was the Josh Brolin one, was that the musical guest
Speaker 1: was Adele fully Adele like pre like pre like Adele.
Speaker 4: Oh like chasing Pavements, Chasing Pavements.
Speaker 1: Yes, And then I remember she won Best New Artists
Speaker 1: a couple of months later, and I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: probably because everyone in the world was watching that episode
Speaker 1: and they were like, who the hell is she? She's incredible, right,
Speaker 1: that was a night of culture, and you were at
Speaker 1: that show. I was. I went to all of them.
Speaker 1: I was. I was addicted and I again I told
Speaker 1: you this, but it was the very first time I
Speaker 1: had ever gotten in and I was like, there was
Speaker 1: this feeling like I don't know that I that it's
Speaker 1: this that I have to do, but I have to
Speaker 1: do something like this, and I was very lost. So
Speaker 1: I went back to my dorm room and sat on
Speaker 1: my bed and like tearfully because I wanted it so bad,
Speaker 1: like googled you because you were the first person I
Speaker 1: respected the most, and then I saw that you had
Speaker 1: started UCB and that you were in your improv at
Speaker 1: your school. So I was like in my head, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm definitely undisting for the improv group in
Speaker 1: this sketch group, which is ultimately what I got in
Speaker 1: and started doing UCB. And it was because I googled
Speaker 1: your name that night because of me going to those shows.
Speaker 1: You so nice. Thank you for saying that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to know the impact that you have, you've
Speaker 1: had on a generation of people, obviously because it's true,
Speaker 1: but also like it's it's just such a very real thing,
Speaker 1: especially I think on gay men, like you know what,
Speaker 1: I as, Oh, you must understand this well. I thank
Speaker 1: you for saying that.
Speaker 3: I sometimes feel like I have more gay women that
Speaker 3: I get that feedback from, which I appreciate but not
Speaker 3: But but that's nice you to say gay.
Speaker 1: Men the men, I think.
Speaker 2: Just I don't know that the men respond to this
Speaker 2: thing where like you are just being like your your
Speaker 2: full powerful self on TV and that is something that
Speaker 2: like we kind of have to like go about sideways
Speaker 2: and media sometimes and you will eat our own sometimes
Speaker 2: and so like it's I feel like you do figure
Speaker 2: very very largely in that in that sense.
Speaker 4: Wow, that means a lot. That's a high compliment.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like for me, the biggest thing
Speaker 3: that culturally that I get a lot of feedback from from,
Speaker 3: especially from gay men, is mean.
Speaker 1: Girls like that.
Speaker 3: That feels like, especially for the millennials, felt like their
Speaker 3: version of how to interact with me more I think
Speaker 3: than USNL and Parks.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I was I was gonna bring
Speaker 2: I was gonna bring up Strawns and fair Child.
Speaker 1: You're right, there are. There are certain press interviews that
Speaker 1: you guys did for that that I watched a million
Speaker 1: that was really fun.
Speaker 3: Those were like when movies, like when there were it.
Speaker 4: Was just like many money, money, money movie, these movies.
Speaker 4: And here's a fun story about that.
Speaker 3: Will and Arnett and I played brother and sister, but
Speaker 3: we were actually married in my life and we they
Speaker 3: tested that movie, and the testing they were like, we
Speaker 3: hate Strawans and fair Child.
Speaker 1: What do you mean the villain? Right?
Speaker 3: And I remember that the info coming back like a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't really like the and we were like, well.
Speaker 1: We're the villains, you know.
Speaker 3: But but to the director's credit, they I think they
Speaker 3: kept a lot of it in. But that was really
Speaker 3: but yeah, we did tons of photo shoots and that.
Speaker 1: Was really big. The extra.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that point we had already been like used
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: Will feral big comedy movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and John Heater obviously huge, like big moment for him.
Speaker 2: But I was just so tickled as like a comedy
Speaker 2: person watching us now every week as someone who was
Speaker 2: like scrolling like the writing credits for The Simpsons, like
Speaker 2: we were like those kids. Like it was just thrilling
Speaker 2: to see you and Will in a film like that,
Speaker 2: and I will always always remember just you as Marilyn
Speaker 2: and him is.
Speaker 4: Also also first of all, I was walking in today,
Speaker 4: I was like, who am I dressed like? And I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm dressed like Will in light of the
Speaker 4: Roxbury I have, like.
Speaker 3: I have, yes, I'm paying amas. Funny story about that movie.
Speaker 3: We had to learn how to ice skate, and I
Speaker 3: knew enough to note, I'm not gonna be doing a
Speaker 3: ton of ice skating this movie. You know, they had
Speaker 3: incredible body doubles and face switcheroo technology, and they had
Speaker 3: really good ice skaters having to do that.
Speaker 1: And I knew.
Speaker 4: I was like, I think, if I could just fake
Speaker 4: it in the waist up, I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: It was just like the fact that it was so.
Speaker 3: But they had an incredible professional like ex Olympian ice
Speaker 3: dancer coach, performer coaching me.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 3: It was a time when movies were like you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to We're gonna I was on SNL and so
Speaker 3: on the weekends and in the mornings I would have
Speaker 3: to go to Chelsea Piers and ice skate, and I
Speaker 3: remember she was this, really, I'm sorry, I forget her name.
Speaker 3: If you're listening, you were awesome. But I would do
Speaker 3: that thing that I learned early when I wanted someone
Speaker 3: to not do something, where I would just she would sit,
Speaker 3: we'd have our.
Speaker 4: Coffee in the morning. I knew we only in an hour.
Speaker 3: The clock would be behind her and I'd be like, wait,
Speaker 3: what's going on with you? And she'd go, well, we
Speaker 3: have to get out on the ice, and I go,
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know we have to.
Speaker 1: We have to. I'd be like, but how is your daughter.
Speaker 4: I would try to get her to talk, and the clock.
Speaker 1: Would just kick away.
Speaker 4: And because it was so hard to learn, bone shows,
Speaker 4: bone tired, and also I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew I didn't have to know that exactly. You're like,
Speaker 1: they're gonna it's gonna be this, it's gonna be way
Speaker 1: to stop. We're gonna be on wires.
Speaker 4: I'm never going to get it.
Speaker 3: And at one point she said to me, you know,
Speaker 3: if at any point something's hurting, make sure you tell
Speaker 3: me to We were like proud, well, I was like,
Speaker 3: I will, like, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not an athlete, Like I'm not going to play through
Speaker 4: the bay. I Am not trying to get a mental here,
Speaker 4: so I can kind of ice caape it.
Speaker 1: Not that well, did you do sports in high school?
Speaker 3: I was, I was like, did a bunch of sports moderately? Well,
Speaker 3: uh huh, like good trash talker, like out on the field,
Speaker 3: played softball, played soccer like a little.
Speaker 4: Basketball, like just kind of was like like the mouth.
Speaker 1: But energy is something that I would I would ascribe
Speaker 1: to you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I was really good at keeping the team up and
Speaker 3: really good at like knowing where the play is, like
Speaker 3: a lot of like plays at second you know, like that,
Speaker 3: but not didn't really have the skill small, didn't really
Speaker 3: have an arm softball. Yes, And it's amazing that I'm
Speaker 3: not gay, because every picture of.
Speaker 1: Me during that time looks kind of gay.
Speaker 4: Cutest like baby, but we all did back then.
Speaker 3: We all did in many ways, but like not a jock,
Speaker 3: yeah right, and then she was a cheerleader sometimes too,
Speaker 3: just kind of a floater to use a.
Speaker 4: Me and girl's term.
Speaker 2: No, that's great because I feel like there's something about
Speaker 2: young people now where they are struggling with finding people
Speaker 2: just socializing in general.
Speaker 1: It's a thing.
Speaker 2: It's like what you want to tell them is like, oh,
Speaker 2: is it like an osteoporosis thing, Like it's like a
Speaker 2: calcium thing, Like you have to start early and like
Speaker 2: get the whole sportsman thing going.
Speaker 1: I think to be in to learn how to collaborate
Speaker 1: in any way. I think it's important to be not
Speaker 1: to do sports, but to be involved in activities like that.
Speaker 1: I just think, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was a different time where you could be okay
Speaker 3: at softball and play in your local softball league for
Speaker 3: a long time. But now you have to be like
Speaker 3: on a traveling team and it's very intense, and parents
Speaker 3: are involved. Parents have ruined a lot of things. Like
Speaker 3: when parents show up, they kind of ruin things. And
Speaker 3: my generation, my parents, no one went to anyone's occasionally
Speaker 3: went to a game, but there were no adults taking
Speaker 3: things over. Everything was a little less stressful. You could
Speaker 3: try a bunch of things and it wasn't necessarily your identity.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I imagine you have not been domb parent in that context
Speaker 2: with your kids.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm trying not to be.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're showing up to the things that
Speaker 2: in a way that is like kind of all right.
Speaker 3: It's some people it's their identity, right, Like they're living
Speaker 3: through their kids, I guess, but which I.
Speaker 1: Mean, you have to be supportive of old. Are your
Speaker 1: kids now they're fourteen and sixteen? Okay those are Yeah?
Speaker 1: You got teen boys? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I love teens.
Speaker 1: You've break in thousand and half.
Speaker 4: I love teens. I'm here to say it.
Speaker 1: Grow. Don't tell me that I'm gross. I know what
Speaker 1: they do. I love teens. I'm here to say the
Speaker 1: teen years have my favorite years. Why is it because
Speaker 1: they're kind of like riding hard for you right now?
Speaker 1: They're just like interesting people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also their friends are kind of interesting, and
Speaker 3: you're like, this is like the black Diamond of parenting.
Speaker 3: This is where it's coming in and you're having big conversations,
Speaker 3: they're making choices, You're trying to keep them safe. It's
Speaker 3: people like focus on the little the young ens, like
Speaker 3: the baby stuff and the young'ins. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: there's something I think I'm good with teens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's it's black diamond. It's moguls, Mogus, mogus
Speaker 2: moguls got it either either right on top or right around.
Speaker 1: Is this tied too?
Speaker 2: Because I've always thought of you as this aspirational TikTok person,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, well, I need to get on TikTok
Speaker 2: because I feel like there are people out there like
Speaker 2: Amy Pole who are like, it's cool, I like it.
Speaker 3: But I feel like you were on TikTok almost first
Speaker 3: when you were lip syncing, and then you came in,
Speaker 3: you dominated, and then you.
Speaker 1: Like left, Like you know what that wasn't TikTok that
Speaker 1: we're so ahead of the curve was Instagram. Instagram.
Speaker 2: We had so many viral things pre TikTok, things that
Speaker 2: would have taken off on TikTok. Now, I know that's
Speaker 2: this sounds so cloying and obnoxious, but it's true. Like
Speaker 2: Matt and I would like start like song like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah we tunes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would start our pay talk songs, bear people,
Speaker 2: if you know what we're talking about. You know Four
Speaker 2: Nights in Orlando, which horror story every second was almost
Speaker 2: fifteen second song in Orlando. We would go we would
Speaker 2: be on about a metric ton of edibles and we shoot.
Speaker 1: Like horror anthologies. Add Disney World. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: out there. It is out there. If you go deep
Speaker 1: in the instagrams, they are there. But what was the
Speaker 1: horror anthology called four Nights in Orlando? And then it
Speaker 1: was like it was like four Nights in Orlando Hotel,
Speaker 1: four Nights in Orlando, Gay Ghost, four Nights in Orlando?
Speaker 1: Which war? Which one was our best? Where was our best?
Speaker 1: We always say that was the most satisfying one when
Speaker 1: you watched it altogether. And also you could see so
Speaker 1: many uses and you can't find that. You can't put
Speaker 1: that back out on TikTok. No. I tried and it
Speaker 1: didn't really, you know, less Culturistas is huge on TikTok, right,
Speaker 1: But that's we're pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's our lovely social team. I feel like we could
Speaker 2: put it back on TikTok, but there would just be
Speaker 2: that twenty fourteen Patina on it, where you'd be like, ew,
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch anything from that time.
Speaker 3: I feel like more and more, I mean, even starting
Speaker 3: this podcast is a good example of that. I'm getting
Speaker 3: a little less worried about whether or not my timing
Speaker 3: is right.
Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, yeah, I know. You can't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I feel like, if you want to do it, I
Speaker 3: feel like you can do whatever you want if you
Speaker 3: want it.
Speaker 4: If you don't want to do it, certainly don't. Right,
Speaker 4: you do whatever you want anytime.
Speaker 1: You's fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it should only be fun.
Speaker 1: It is fun. And there was a time when I
Speaker 1: was even doing like the challenges. Yeah, like I just
Speaker 1: looked through it and it was it's just like me.
Speaker 1: One time I did a totally earnest TikTok to Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift song Harris. It was earnest, it was it was
Speaker 1: so it was because I cringe mountain. Have you heard
Speaker 1: about this? It's so major. Once you climb cringe mountain,
Speaker 1: then you get to the other side of.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean that's where the power lies is
Speaker 3: post cringe. I mean you learn that with comedy a lot.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to just you can't be embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Like do you have the moment in your career that
Speaker 1: you're like this, I climb cringe mountain at this.
Speaker 4: Soint Oh yeah, A cringe mountain is far behind me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't worry.
Speaker 3: About that at all, because basically, you survive a ton
Speaker 3: of embarrassments like death by a thousand cuts.
Speaker 4: You just realize I'm okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3: And then you realize that, like, actually, the the longer
Speaker 3: in your career, you should be taking more risks and
Speaker 3: trying new things, and you should be like a little
Speaker 3: nervous and a little excited. Yeah, And the minute you
Speaker 3: are afraid about being cool, you're screwed.
Speaker 1: It's true, and it stops you doing things.
Speaker 3: It does, and and everyone is so obsessed with themselves.
Speaker 3: I would so much rather somebody be a little tender
Speaker 3: rony and make a cringey mistake than the opposite. When
Speaker 3: people are really cool, I'm like, oh honey, Like when
Speaker 3: they're trying to be very well, I get so I
Speaker 3: get some stress for that.
Speaker 1: It's not easy.
Speaker 3: It's not easy out there, right. But it's the same
Speaker 3: way with like hostedt SNL. Like a host that will
Speaker 3: come in and will be like kind of open face
Speaker 3: sandwich and be like I'm nervous or whatever, like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna try and they give your sketch there all and
Speaker 3: you're like, I love you forever, yes.
Speaker 1: But when someone's trying to be cool, you're like, hmmm,
Speaker 1: I can think of the people and.
Speaker 3: The coolness, you know, it's so it's a protective shell,
Speaker 3: so you kind of feel for them.
Speaker 4: We've all been there, but it is it's so fleet,
Speaker 4: like what is what is cool?
Speaker 1: Right? Is it actually never was?
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys do kind of define it in
Speaker 3: the You guys, you do kind of define it. And
Speaker 3: why I'm going to say this, the reason why you
Speaker 3: define it is because your list is about not being cool, right,
Speaker 3: but it is the coolest list in the world.
Speaker 1: It takes the piss out of the list in the.
Speaker 3: First yes, and it reminds you that like we're all like,
Speaker 3: we're all like, I'm um, we're dumb.
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what it was I think
Speaker 1: for me in high school? I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: Did you guys have friends that made fun of you
Speaker 1: constantly in high school? Like I allowed myself to be
Speaker 1: the butt of the joke a lot. They they made
Speaker 1: fun of me for the way I held it flour
Speaker 1: They made fun of me for the way I wore
Speaker 1: a hat. They made fun of me because I couldn't
Speaker 1: see colors, Like I was constantly getting ribbed on by
Speaker 1: my friends. And I think it made me realize, like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not cool and shouldn't try and then years later
Speaker 1: someone I remember someone said, yeah, you're a cool person,
Speaker 1: like people think that, and I was just like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think, and don't tell me that because that
Speaker 1: will get me in my head. I think the key
Speaker 1: is just like always being surrounded by people who are
Speaker 1: a little bit like this. Yeah, I just do that.
Speaker 1: I do that all the time.
Speaker 4: Matte, you need people to ribu.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: I think it's a very East Coast thing too.
Speaker 1: I would agree it's.
Speaker 3: A very East Coast thing. Like the more I like you,
Speaker 3: the more I'll tease you. Yeah, it's like it is
Speaker 3: like a safety thing. I mean with within reason, like
Speaker 3: you don't want to be bullied, No, don't hurt my feeling.
Speaker 4: Manners are for people we don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, you know what. That was actually an unspoken thing,
Speaker 1: especially with my my first ever like ensemble I ever
Speaker 1: felt like I was a part of. Was my like
Speaker 1: friend group in high school. Yeah, and our thing was
Speaker 1: we always took the grip the ship out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's there's nothing more satisfying than when you can tease
Speaker 3: someone with love, yeah, and they tease you back, and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, we're saying like we're this is intimacy.
Speaker 1: Is that how you and your friends are?
Speaker 4: Yeah? That was Boston all the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah and then through SNL as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, like hard like because when you tease someone the
Speaker 3: right way, it also means that you see them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you feel seen right, Like the most delightful thing when
Speaker 3: someone can like you know, you know, you're like talking
Speaker 3: about someone You're like, I'm so tired and someone's.
Speaker 1: Like you are.
Speaker 4: We couldn't tell, you know, like you're like, like you
Speaker 4: just feel so like delighted.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm tired of the time. But are you
Speaker 1: downloading this into the into the boys at all?
Speaker 4: I'm trying to, like, I think I'm trying to just
Speaker 4: kind of but you know, here's the thing about teens.
Speaker 1: They won't be to no downloading, nooad. You go from
Speaker 1: producer to consultant. Ah.
Speaker 3: And that is not my line. That is someone else's line.
Speaker 3: Someone else said that. But you go from handling your
Speaker 3: kid's life over like and scheduling their play dates and
Speaker 3: getting their stuff and getting like and making their lunch
Speaker 3: all the stuff. It's like you're in charge to being
Speaker 3: like I know you didn't ask me, but what I
Speaker 3: would do is you have to just stand back.
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 3: You almost can't tell them anything.
Speaker 1: Just think about it.
Speaker 3: When your parents would say something at that age, it
Speaker 3: would just be like shot up. So you you you
Speaker 3: do the I don't know. There's a really good technique.
Speaker 3: I'm super into it. It works for people too, but
Speaker 3: where you just repeat back to them what they said
Speaker 3: to you. So I hate my teacher. You hate your teacher, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because she doesn't listen to us, and she's always like
Speaker 3: giving us assignments we don't like.
Speaker 1: She's always giving you assignments you don't like. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just don't say and it kind of keeps pulling the
Speaker 1: thread the.
Speaker 3: Thread, and they talk to you and they're not looking
Speaker 3: for you to fix it, and certainly not to give advice.
Speaker 3: No barf, like you know what you should do or
Speaker 3: you know, teachers are really like you know, they're working
Speaker 3: really hard these days or whatever.
Speaker 4: They just want to say it to you.
Speaker 1: Even adults don't want to be told. You agree. I
Speaker 1: I did it for a year.
Speaker 3: I was trying a thing where I would only give
Speaker 3: advice to people that asked for it.
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny, I'm asking for it and
Speaker 1: I still have friends. There are certain friends and I
Speaker 1: feel like it's conversations I have to have where it's
Speaker 1: like I haven't realized it will be really easy to
Speaker 1: change dynamic in our friendship if I just tell them
Speaker 1: I don't need advice. I think. I think I have
Speaker 1: a therapist for that. Like I don't need prescription, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like when people give me prescription,
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm not good anymore. At Maybe at a
Speaker 1: certain point I was when I felt like you were
Speaker 1: all like in our twenties or something, figuring it out.
Speaker 1: But it's like I do sometimes just need to externalize
Speaker 1: my feelings because maybe it's because I've realized how well
Speaker 1: therapy works. Because what you're talking about is therapy technique.
Speaker 1: All your therapist does is facilitate you speaking to yourself right,
Speaker 1: and then you hear it and you're like, oh, I've
Speaker 1: heard it out loud.
Speaker 2: Finally it's Brene Brown walk alongside m not like not
Speaker 2: like face the person and say this should do. It's
Speaker 2: like they just want to be told that meme of hey,
Speaker 2: I'm not reading all that, I'm so happy for you
Speaker 2: or I'm sorry that happened. Yeah, like they just want
Speaker 2: to be told great or I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: And the other side of that is I'm really egotistical
Speaker 3: about my advice.
Speaker 4: I think I have great advice.
Speaker 3: So I not only don't want advice that I don't
Speaker 3: ask for, but I like to offer advice that nobody
Speaker 3: asked for. And then I get a little butt hurt
Speaker 3: when they don't take it. I write, I'm like, you
Speaker 3: didn't take my advice, Like that's solid gold advice. And
Speaker 3: then my therapist was like, why are you giving advice
Speaker 3: to people that don't ask for it. That's precious advice
Speaker 3: that you can't.
Speaker 4: Just give out willing nilling, Like be respectful of your
Speaker 4: own advice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and value it.
Speaker 3: You can value it. And you can even say like
Speaker 3: are you open to advice? And if they say yes,
Speaker 3: you go. You know, if I give it, do you
Speaker 3: think you'll this advice means something to me? When it's something,
Speaker 3: it's like a lot.
Speaker 2: Can we can we ask you for like, do you
Speaker 2: have any any advice for us?
Speaker 4: God, there's such a little advice for you. No, don't
Speaker 4: come on, okay, in what in what area? Can you
Speaker 4: ask something specifically about?
Speaker 2: Or just like I want like all of these things
Speaker 2: at SNL that I feel like I are not compatible
Speaker 2: in terms of like lifestyle things of like dating and
Speaker 2: like having a dog and like all of these things.
Speaker 1: Yes, advices. The advice is it's just just waited out
Speaker 1: until until you finish one thing.
Speaker 3: Also, you're so ahead of the game by realizing it's
Speaker 3: something that you want. Oh, Like, I think just even
Speaker 3: knowing what you want, you're ahead of the game. Life
Speaker 3: is an arrow pointing you to what you want. So
Speaker 3: like by not getting you're like, oh, I'm really missing
Speaker 3: that I want that.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: That's Oh, thank you SNL for pointing the arrow to
Speaker 3: what I want. And I think my advice would be
Speaker 3: try to imagine that it's not binary.
Speaker 1: It's not like either have it or you don't. You
Speaker 1: can't have it there you can't.
Speaker 3: Like the can'ts, the cants and shouldn't and maybe not
Speaker 3: isn't Like there's like there's a lot of space in between, Yes,
Speaker 3: that not being a place where you could have it
Speaker 3: and a place where you could have it.
Speaker 1: I'm receiving that. Thank you. Mine's really specific. I need
Speaker 1: like a moving company. Oh, I have a great one,
Speaker 1: and I need like some people to cook I lost
Speaker 1: some stuff up very good.
Speaker 3: So my advice there would be, don't lift a finger.
Speaker 4: You have you have right, we have a you have
Speaker 4: a not you're doing well. You have enough money, you know,
Speaker 4: thank God, very lucky. Take your privilege and.
Speaker 1: Get through my bank account before we started. She knows
Speaker 1: all my financial stuff we made.
Speaker 4: Get somebody to pack everything up for you.
Speaker 3: But do one pass and go through and grab anything,
Speaker 3: a document, anything that you would.
Speaker 4: Sob over if if it was lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: Sob not like I love this chair, I love this
Speaker 4: bab whatever, Like, go through and go if this got
Speaker 4: thrown in the ocean by accident, would it ruin my life?
Speaker 1: Right? Get those things out everything else, let them pack
Speaker 1: it for you. Wow. You know what's crazy is I'm
Speaker 1: realizing that stuff is less and less and less. Stuff
Speaker 1: means less time, even like sentimental things, which I felt like, oh,
Speaker 1: shouldn't they mean more to me? Over time? I think
Speaker 1: as I get older, I realized just things are things.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's bizarre. Like we were doing playing this
Speaker 1: game at Coachella the night before the festival. We were
Speaker 1: doing like the newly wed game with each other, and
Speaker 1: one of the questions was. It was for me to answer,
Speaker 1: what would he grab if he had to grab one
Speaker 1: thing if the house was like, you know, it was
Speaker 1: an earthquake, on fire, whatever is a disaster. And I
Speaker 1: saw there and couldn't think of one thing for yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then everyone was like my dog Bill, my partner David,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I guess it's just because
Speaker 1: I don't have any of those like real things. I
Speaker 1: was like, and I wrote down a lot of phone chargers.
Speaker 1: I just don't grab all the chargers because you never
Speaker 1: can have enough. Right. That's good. You might not be
Speaker 1: attached to things. That's very healthy. I'm not. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that is changing about That's good. That's very good.
Speaker 4: There's a thing called Swedish death cleaning. I produced a
Speaker 4: show about it, which is all about the Swedish death clean.
Speaker 3: The gentle art of Swedish death cleaning, which is Swedes
Speaker 3: believe one of the things that you can do for
Speaker 3: your family is you can clear out your stuff before
Speaker 3: you die. Like you know, they want less stuff, right,
Speaker 3: and why not give your stuff away while you're still
Speaker 3: vital and alive and tell people why it means something
Speaker 3: to you so they can get to know you, because
Speaker 3: what happens in the States is people die, they leave
Speaker 3: all the stuff. Then you go through your like grandfather's
Speaker 3: papers and you're like he was you know, he played
Speaker 3: the tuba, like I didn't even know or whatever, and
Speaker 3: so let people know you while your life. But it's
Speaker 3: all about minimizing it and getting rid of stuff, and
Speaker 3: so maybe you're kind of.
Speaker 1: Doing that along the way. Yeah, maybe he is your
Speaker 1: brother still there. Yeah, he lives in Sweden. Oh so cool.
Speaker 2: There was there was a sparkless thing where he was
Speaker 2: just playing basketball and I was like, that seems like
Speaker 2: a cool dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my brother is the coolest. He's a really funny
Speaker 3: writer and performer. And he moved to Sweden. He met
Speaker 3: a woman who lived in Sweden.
Speaker 4: They got married at a kid and now he's been there,
Speaker 4: god must be almost twenty years. He's like a full expat.
Speaker 3: He lives outside of Stockholm and like speak Swedish.
Speaker 4: No, it's so cool.
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to find a husband with another passport.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like I do think it's time. It's time,
Speaker 1: like and weirdly enough, like this is a pattern. I've
Speaker 1: been going out with a lot of guys that like,
Speaker 1: weirdly are also from another country and are sober. Ooh,
Speaker 1: I like that for you. But it's really good, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I don't even not even trying to date like sober guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to date guys with like like
Speaker 1: dual citizenship, but like it keeps happening. What what what
Speaker 1: country would you like to Let's just put it out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just like Canada or England. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: there are people there are Listen. I'm talking specifically to
Speaker 1: people that live in Toronto and London. I suppose. I
Speaker 1: just we were in London and it was.
Speaker 3: So great, right, but be careful with that London weather.
Speaker 3: That's all I gotta say. That London weather is like Sweden.
Speaker 4: It is dark. It is a dark, cold country. To
Speaker 4: just be aware.
Speaker 1: I do well with overcast, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it's I don't really You're right, I'm definitely a sunboy,
Speaker 1: but like I've had enough of it. It's like I
Speaker 1: go up on Long Island and I'm like a child
Speaker 1: of the of the beach in the sun, and so
Speaker 1: now I'm kind of like maybe I've had enough, like
Speaker 1: for my life. I love a UK guy for you,
Speaker 1: I think so with a scarf and everything. I don't
Speaker 1: know about the scarf. You don't like the scar The
Speaker 1: scar like a scarf and a like an overcoat, overcoat,
Speaker 1: certainly i'd see when you said scarf, I when my
Speaker 1: mind went to Ascott and I do no, no, can
Speaker 1: I say? I do see some people out there trying
Speaker 1: to bring back the Ascot and I'm not ready for that.
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's that's like a winter, like a Jude
Speaker 1: Law winter look like a like a what's the guys saying?
Speaker 1: I love the winter? Look?
Speaker 4: You know the guy that did all the movie like
Speaker 4: a Richard Curtis.
Speaker 1: Jude like from the cold we met at the Oscars.
Speaker 1: We did meet with your your Curtis at the os just.
Speaker 3: A gentleman like shaking off the snow off overcoat.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh that's good. Okay. Now I'm like upset that
Speaker 1: it's going to be springing somewhere because my favorite time
Speaker 1: to date is the fall in the winter because it's
Speaker 1: a cuffing season, because it's yes, but like I never cuff.
Speaker 1: My thing is like I just like to be dressed
Speaker 1: up for a date. And also maybe it's just of
Speaker 1: what your body is doing. This is the dysmorphic part.
Speaker 3: What what I project upon you that I want for
Speaker 3: you is a gentleman who's maybe a little sober or whatever,
Speaker 3: just like not he's just like he's he's not the
Speaker 3: main character. Okay, he's the one that's like just like
Speaker 3: look at him, go.
Speaker 1: I do think I do.
Speaker 2: Do you subscribe to a flower gardener sort of duality
Speaker 2: and relationships.
Speaker 1: Like one person is the flower they need to be
Speaker 1: watered and gardened, and one person is a gardener and
Speaker 1: they kind of that's what they do. It can't be
Speaker 1: as simple as that, but that is a it is
Speaker 1: a dichotomy thing that people sometimes think about.
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting because I would say, for you,
Speaker 3: you're extroverted person, right, probably secretly more introverted than we
Speaker 3: think you're, Yeah, but an extroverted person who I think
Speaker 3: it would be nice for you to have like a
Speaker 3: British Jude law looking gentleman who has the taxi waiting
Speaker 3: while you work the room.
Speaker 1: As the taxi. Yeah, taxi waiting, And I love someone
Speaker 1: that wants to leave. He's like ready to go love, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I'm ready to go, ready to go love that rocks.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's actually nothing less sexy than someone who doesn't
Speaker 3: know when to leave a party. It's a problem when
Speaker 3: someone can't leave a party because they're just.
Speaker 1: Kind of waiting.
Speaker 3: I've gotten for this thing that's that hasn't happened yet
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, not absolutely, and it won't happen. It won't happen.
Speaker 1: And also I'm the part like, yeah, hello, like what
Speaker 1: are you waiting for the part of the party. We
Speaker 1: have to ask the question. So this is the question
Speaker 1: that we ask all of our guests. This is what
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
Speaker 4: Okay, well, you know you were my favorite podcasts. So
Speaker 4: I've thought about this a lot.
Speaker 1: As why I love this part.
Speaker 3: I love this podcast, and I thought about it a lot,
Speaker 3: and you know, I didn't want to overthink it. But
Speaker 3: I have to say, for me, growing up, there was
Speaker 3: a woman who I just related to you. She she
Speaker 3: just felt very strong. She had a really specific POV.
Speaker 3: She kind of asked her what she wanted. She always
Speaker 3: had good jokes, and that woman was miss Picky.
Speaker 1: You know that she might be coming on less culture,
Speaker 1: she might be against we are obsessed She's one of
Speaker 1: the top icons.
Speaker 3: She at a time when women were told to be
Speaker 3: you know, seen and not heard. She took up space.
Speaker 3: She was very body positive. She was, yes, at times
Speaker 3: a little violent.
Speaker 1: We would we'd.
Speaker 4: Maybe correct that now there was some there was.
Speaker 1: It was almost always in self defense.
Speaker 3: I completely agree. She often saved the day, save the day.
Speaker 3: She said what she wanted. She was like one big
Speaker 3: intrusive thought. And if you suffered from those like I
Speaker 3: did as a kid, you were like, I can't believe
Speaker 3: she said that out loud. She was always funny. She
Speaker 3: had really a good joke. Kermie loved her.
Speaker 2: She was the only person in him up at Christmas
Speaker 2: Carol who stood up to Scrooge.
Speaker 1: What whenever she goes.
Speaker 2: Martial arts culture, respectful of Eastern culture.
Speaker 4: Okay, if you say so, I don't know, Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm you can enjoy. Miss Piggy's her highest respectful she was.
Speaker 4: She was such a funny character, larious, I mean funny, funny, funny, funny.
Speaker 1: Outsized diva who demanded that she get her shine. And
Speaker 1: what was always great was the budget they would blow
Speaker 1: out for her sets and everything, and how disastrously it
Speaker 1: would go wrong. But yeah, it's still she still came
Speaker 1: out on top. Yeah, they never she was allowed to, like,
Speaker 1: I guess, like keep failing. She was a woman in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: They let keep flopping.
Speaker 4: Look, it was the seventies, right, It wasn't perfect.
Speaker 3: So at times Miss Piggy like almost felt like, oh,
Speaker 3: she's a cautionary tale of someone who's too But the
Speaker 3: audience did not feel that from her. The Muppet Show
Speaker 3: when it would come on and the dude get things
Speaker 3: started and the song would start. As a kid, I
Speaker 3: was like, this is Hollywood everything. This felt like this
Speaker 3: was you know, I didn't know anyone that was an
Speaker 3: actor or writer. I'd never seen anyone famous. Something about
Speaker 3: The Muppet Show was like there is a place where
Speaker 3: my jokes and what I like is going to live.
Speaker 1: And it was get ready for the show.
Speaker 3: It's like very ESNLNL SNL. It was my presinal because
Speaker 3: my generation of s and all the people like I
Speaker 3: was like ten when Eddie Murphy joined SNL and I
Speaker 3: was like fourteen when it was like Dana Carvey and
Speaker 3: Jan Hooks and Phil Hartmon.
Speaker 1: So that was but the Muppet Show was the first feeling.
Speaker 4: Of there's a show about to be put on. And
Speaker 4: Miss Piggy was the star of the Muppet Show.
Speaker 1: Yes she was. She was the star. She was the she.
Speaker 1: She told everyone what to do, and Kermie couldn't resist.
Speaker 4: I mean he was a little shy, and you know,
Speaker 4: she kind have probably spoke for him in a way
Speaker 4: that I think he liked.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, thank you for putting some shine on Kermit too,
Speaker 2: because Kermie, I think, was also just as valuable of
Speaker 2: a male a masculinity comp yes that as Miss Piggy
Speaker 2: was a femininity sort of example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they flipped.
Speaker 3: He was kind of a soft boy also, though during
Speaker 3: that time we also had people like Alan Alda and
Speaker 3: mash Right.
Speaker 4: He was like so nice even though he was so
Speaker 4: we had some sweetie pies.
Speaker 3: Yes, it wasn't as masculine all the time as people think,
Speaker 3: like the seventies. There was some like groovy like you
Speaker 3: know dads or even like Michael Landon who was like
Speaker 3: tough but like loved his daughter and was kind of sweet.
Speaker 3: But Kermie, Hermit was very in touch with his feminine side.
Speaker 1: Yes, it sounds like you have feelings for Kermie. You
Speaker 1: know why I love Kermit.
Speaker 3: Kermit was a peacemaker, yeah, Kermit was a peacemaker, and
Speaker 3: as I get older, I'm drawn to people men, especially
Speaker 3: who are looking for peace.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all I want to do is feel calm.
Speaker 3: Me too, I want to feel calm. I want to
Speaker 3: feel safe, and I don't conflict used to be the
Speaker 3: way I'm an enneagram eight.
Speaker 4: Do you care about your anim that's right?
Speaker 1: Your seven? That makes sense? What are you in? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So hard.
Speaker 3: No one understands you. You're very it's very hard to know.
Speaker 3: Fours are like they're like special romantic. Yeah, fours are dream.
Speaker 4: Maker like that makes artists remind me eight challenger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I used to think conflict was how I
Speaker 3: and it was often how I got intimate with people,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and now I want more peace, I see.
Speaker 4: And sevens are so.
Speaker 1: Much fun, you know, if we exhaust ourselves. Yeah, sevens
Speaker 1: are require a lot, but they're so fun. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I like, it's so funny because I and then I
Speaker 1: looked at the results and it was like, whoa, I
Speaker 1: didn't stand a chance. I was such a s like
Speaker 1: it was it was I was thinking like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, these hits aren't going to all go together.
Speaker 1: It was like you're a seven down the house down, yes,
Speaker 1: And I mean I get that. It's funny, like as
Speaker 1: I get a little bit older, like I'm also I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ascribe to the astrology of it all,
Speaker 1: but I'm also like a triple water signed double Pisces
Speaker 1: cancer moon, which is like that, and a seven is like, oh,
Speaker 1: we go and take up a lot of space.
Speaker 3: And also you're just gonna be kind of like, what's
Speaker 3: the next thing, Like you're definitely for the adventure.
Speaker 1: I'm more along consumer. So you used to say that
Speaker 1: about me all the time, beautiful excited, Yeah, and sometimes
Speaker 1: that can get me into Yeah, I have a lot
Speaker 1: of sevens in my life. I love them. For those
Speaker 1: that you don't care about enneagrams, whatever, But they're enthusiasts.
Speaker 1: They're enthusiasts. Yes, they love things and.
Speaker 3: They love having fun. But a seven is always like
Speaker 3: you're like, let's go do this thing, and they're like
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 1: Going to be fun? And you're like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess I fun. Hmmm.
Speaker 4: Fun is important. Newness is important.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to be the kind of person that's like
Speaker 1: seeks excitement and seeks like to consume things and have experiences.
Speaker 1: But then also have like an anxiety creep up because
Speaker 1: it's like that's when you get you get, you get
Speaker 1: in your head with a lot of like judgment, judgment, judgment.
Speaker 1: I just that's why I want to be calm. It's
Speaker 1: because I just want someone who's just gonna be like
Speaker 1: it's okay, like you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's you know what, Like this experience is gonna be
Speaker 1: what it is, and then it's gonna be over and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna have another one tomorrow. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: am sort of waiting, and I do think I haven't
Speaker 1: really said this on the podcast yet, but I am
Speaker 1: fully moving back to New York. I finally bought my
Speaker 1: first place, and so like I I think that that
Speaker 1: will be a place where I can like root because
Speaker 1: I am looking for that. I think I deeply feel
Speaker 1: like my next step is to just feel like I
Speaker 1: can sit down and be comfortable in a place like
Speaker 1: that would be nice if someone could be a part
Speaker 1: of that, like down yeah toes down vibe. But it
Speaker 1: is it's interesting that you say all that stuff, because
Speaker 1: feeling calm is something I never thought I.
Speaker 3: Wanted because of same I always thought like that my
Speaker 3: thing was to challenge and buck the system and kind
Speaker 3: of like push and push. And now I'm really I
Speaker 3: really feel lucky that I'm surrounded by a lot of
Speaker 3: people who are not that way, who are like more
Speaker 3: peaceful and peacemakers.
Speaker 1: And kind of like a little bit like it could
Speaker 1: be this, It could be that.
Speaker 3: Like for the longest time, being definitive and like certain
Speaker 3: and decisive, yeah, was like safety And now I'm like
Speaker 3: luckily a little bit more like I don't know, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I think it's interesting because one of your like
Speaker 1: I would say defining comedic and like public traits is
Speaker 1: your energy. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, so
Speaker 1: I would imagine I identify with this that sometimes when
Speaker 1: people like interact with you, they feel like they also
Speaker 1: need to bring a lot of energy. And then there
Speaker 1: you are meeting that and all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: exhausted girl, and like you're like, wait, hold on, yeah,
Speaker 1: where was I in that? Oh? I was definitely talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what was I saying? Oh? Yeah, it's you bring
Speaker 1: what you get, you know, praise for and credit for
Speaker 1: and like notice, especially at a place I would imagine
Speaker 1: coming up through comedy and like, you know, having to
Speaker 1: make your way, like and being one of one in
Speaker 1: many ways and then getting to SNL and then having
Speaker 1: to like, I know, it started really well for you
Speaker 1: pretty much like you kind of hit the ground running,
Speaker 1: and then when you were in the main cast, like
Speaker 1: kind of right away, right, yeah, pretty fast. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: everything was happening really fast, but you probably had to
Speaker 1: give it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we were like it was a different
Speaker 3: time where there was less women. You had to kind
Speaker 3: of you know, for those that are not watching them,
Speaker 3: I'm saying, but you bring up something that's so true,
Speaker 3: which is I feel like and getting back to like
Speaker 3: your fifties and on. But I'm all about practicing my backhand.
Speaker 3: That's my new phrase, which is my forehand has served
Speaker 3: me so well. It is I've made a lot of shots.
Speaker 3: I feel really confident. It's I'm very very grateful for
Speaker 3: what it's gotten me. And now it's time to practice
Speaker 3: my back And what is the thing that I don't
Speaker 3: always give as much attention to or practice to, And
Speaker 3: it's exactly that it's not depending on my energy to
Speaker 3: be the way that people connect with me or like
Speaker 3: or that like sparring or conflict is going to be
Speaker 3: the way in which I can get something done, but
Speaker 3: just like be a little bit more watery.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's thinking about how you communicate textually, yes,
Speaker 2: rather than literally, you're super textually where you're just like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to communicate what I think by saying it
Speaker 2: and write something like this where it's like.
Speaker 4: Well, this is a very fore answer you're giving right now, because.
Speaker 3: No, because you're right, you're saying like you're coming from
Speaker 3: a feeling place and I'm coming from an action place.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and that's a challenger thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the four is like, how can I express my
Speaker 3: feelings or have these feelings differently?
Speaker 4: And it's like, what can I do differently?
Speaker 1: Yea?
Speaker 3: And our work is to like, and I'm so sorry
Speaker 3: if this is boring for anybody, our work is to
Speaker 3: feel more.
Speaker 1: Your work is to do.
Speaker 4: More, less feelings, more doing, And mine is more more feelings.
Speaker 1: Less doing. Is Piggy and as miss Piggy and a, I.
Speaker 3: Think she is definitely an eight. Miss Piggy is kind
Speaker 3: of an island. She is definitely an enny agreement. That
Speaker 3: would be fun to do that with all the money,
Speaker 3: I think. So I think Kermit's a nine. He's a
Speaker 3: piece maker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has to be the hold the center of
Speaker 1: that place. Yeah, he's like, hey, guys, wait, maybe Kermit's
Speaker 1: my man and I need to piggy up what she
Speaker 1: gets here. I'm gonna be like, listen, although I think
Speaker 1: they broke up, didn't they break up to finish?
Speaker 2: Remember the ABC show they introduced that new pig girl.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that, there's that new pig woman. And
Speaker 2: she was swooping in and trying to trying, trying to
Speaker 2: pick up Kermit, and the Internet lost their mind. They
Speaker 2: were like, get the fuck away from him. She needs
Speaker 2: to get the futod a chance against me.
Speaker 4: I gotta watch this.
Speaker 1: I did not I did not know that.
Speaker 4: And do you also remember how public television is so great?
Speaker 3: Sesame Street? Do you remember when Sesame Street? When I
Speaker 3: was growing up, there was a character called Snuffle.
Speaker 4: Up Against Yes, okay, yeah, what then they took Snuffle
Speaker 4: up Against away because it was frustrating kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because why why couldn't they see him? And I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, but who said this?
Speaker 2: They say someone said that they took him away because
Speaker 2: some kids, especially in the eighties when child abduction was
Speaker 2: a thing, they were like parents would like it was
Speaker 2: that like they wouldn't believe what kids were saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah show yeah. A kid didn't feel believed, right,
Speaker 1: And it was at a time when you needed to
Speaker 1: trust what children were saying, Like I saw a strange
Speaker 1: man at the side of our street. You know, there's
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of implications when it comes to
Speaker 1: like PBS and children's programming. Did you ever get to
Speaker 1: go down there to Sesame Street? And I got to
Speaker 1: do something with Elmo, which is really cool. What did
Speaker 1: you guys do together? We did like a word of
Speaker 1: the Day or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then you know, and when I like and
Speaker 4: I loved growing up, I loved an Oscar the Grouch
Speaker 4: alarm clock.
Speaker 1: I like he's a great restarch.
Speaker 4: Larry David owes a lot to Oscar. Yes, yes, the
Speaker 4: alarm clock used to start.
Speaker 1: With it's gonna be a lousy day, wake up, It's
Speaker 1: gonna and it was such a gen x alarm clock.
Speaker 1: But you could never do that now. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: love him, that whole Jim Henson world.
Speaker 4: I have to say it has permeated most of my
Speaker 4: life because you know, also was in the beginning of
Speaker 4: us now.
Speaker 1: But just like those muppets and puppets are everywhere in
Speaker 1: my psyche.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we got to send up prayers up. What the
Speaker 1: heck that was? Oh my god, that was Piggy Squeeze
Speaker 1: come here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is stressful though, because have you ever
Speaker 3: been with someone who's working a puppet?
Speaker 1: No, this is so we heard that. Like it's basically
Speaker 1: what it is is it's like they can go for
Speaker 1: like twenty five thirty minutes at a time and then
Speaker 1: they need to short break.
Speaker 3: It's stressful. Yeah, I mean, God bless everyone who works puppets.
Speaker 3: It's amazing, but it's it's intense. Right where do you look, right,
Speaker 3: I guess you look at the puppet.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have no problem looking right in miss
Speaker 1: Piggy's eyes. I'm telling you, I'm committing so hard.
Speaker 2: I know I might cry though, because I feel the
Speaker 2: same sort of cosmic connection to her that that you're
Speaker 2: talking about, which is that I'm like, she she was
Speaker 2: my first glimpse into old Hollywood, unto like, and she's
Speaker 2: like modeled after those actresses, and.
Speaker 3: She's modeled for like Peggy Lee, right, yes, yeah, and
Speaker 3: she was also kind of like in drag a little
Speaker 3: bit like a real vibe of like costumes and and
Speaker 3: you always were going into her world and it was
Speaker 3: like satin and she was very like she was very feminine, but.
Speaker 1: The show girl. She was a show She was the
Speaker 1: last show girl with Pamela Anderson. I just think she's beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And pigs have newly been become my favorite animal. Oh really,
Speaker 1: And a lot of culture's pigs are really really revered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so smart? Are they one of the smart ones? Yes?
Speaker 1: Smart days smart. So I'm like, now I'm liking this
Speaker 1: new kick where I'm finding out about how deep the
Speaker 1: intelligence of certain animals goes. Like I went on elephants
Speaker 1: the other day, and now I'll never be the same.
Speaker 1: I know, did you know that octopuses decorate their homes? What?
Speaker 1: So the next time you go to, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: someplace on Larchmont and they're serving up a grilled puss.
Speaker 1: That puss was a decorator. He was decorator. And Jeremiah
Speaker 1: of the Seas and then can put up so much
Speaker 1: ship lap so fast July, and my mom has revealed
Speaker 1: how ses she is with Nate and Jeremiah. Watch Jeremiah. Incredible.
Speaker 1: My dad was talking to me about and I was
Speaker 1: on the phone with them, and my mom was talking
Speaker 1: to my mom started watching Queer Eye and she was like,
Speaker 1: because Jeremiah joined, Yeah, and Jeremiah and incredible edition. And
Speaker 1: my dad says to me on the phone, your mother
Speaker 1: is beaming ear to ear harder than I've ever seen
Speaker 1: her talking about Jeremiah Brtt right now. She loves him.
Speaker 4: They also decorate in this beautiful aesthetic that does feel
Speaker 4: like how do I put this?
Speaker 1: Like no one will ever live there? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like the tiling that they put it, like I watched there.
Speaker 1: Like when someone is just like, yeah, so we ripped
Speaker 1: out the floors, I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like in all respect, but I'm like I could never
Speaker 1: be like I want to rip out these floors. I
Speaker 1: want to re upholster now. I don't know what that
Speaker 1: word means. It's hard. And also there is something about
Speaker 1: I love interior design. I love it.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a I want to say, a hobby.
Speaker 1: But I love working with people and making spaces and
Speaker 1: looking at making it. I love it.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I love looking at like magazines and looking
Speaker 3: stuff online and I find just like what people think
Speaker 3: is comfortable. Yeah, I is so subjective. It's just and
Speaker 3: for me the I must rest, my eye must rest.
Speaker 1: Got it.
Speaker 3: So there's like there was like an organizing show where
Speaker 3: it was like what kind of organizer are you?
Speaker 1: Are you? So let me ask you this.
Speaker 4: Okay, there's four different ways, and I'm gonna butcher this.
Speaker 3: But do you like a room where there's an open
Speaker 3: shelf and like, you know, your plates and cups and everything,
Speaker 3: you can see them floating? Okay, okay, this one where
Speaker 3: you're like floating shelf and cups and organized, well, but
Speaker 3: visit one where they're behind a cabinet, organized behind a cabinet.
Speaker 1: Those are two options.
Speaker 3: And then also do you like to have let's say
Speaker 3: you're putting away your important piece of paper. Do you
Speaker 3: want to have it in a drawer where you throw
Speaker 3: it in in a drawer and it's worth all the
Speaker 3: important papers and you'll organize it later, or do you
Speaker 3: want to have a place that it lives every.
Speaker 1: Time that I see. I mean, here's my thing. I
Speaker 1: don't like looking at cupboards. I don't like looking at
Speaker 1: cupboards and shelves. I think I'm s o l Some
Speaker 1: people like to see their stuff and some people like
Speaker 1: to not see this. I think it could be interesting
Speaker 1: to see myself.
Speaker 2: I am going to be that not see your stuff school,
Speaker 2: because if one thing is off on the floating shelf
Speaker 2: and it's out on display, it's gonna bug the ship
Speaker 2: out of me. I'm never gonna feel I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: that itch in my brain the entire time I'm looking
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 4: Yes, and what about countertops tables?
Speaker 1: Do they need to be clear? Pretty much? Have to
Speaker 1: be clear?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a strong aesthetic. I mean he I keep telling
Speaker 1: him that he should get a d over to his
Speaker 1: place because it's so cute and cooling, bowing of like housewares. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about you? What are you doing? It? Would love
Speaker 1: to do that? What come on?
Speaker 4: Everybody's well, you know what, I'm going to take my
Speaker 4: own advice.
Speaker 1: It's never too late, it's never to wait to do what?
Speaker 1: But what would just have a house? Okay? Wait, your
Speaker 1: conversation with Tina about this? Don't you think? Open eyeglasses?
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get Tina to make money off
Speaker 3: of eyeglasses for her entire life, but beside, she doesn't
Speaker 3: want to do I understand, I respect it. She only
Speaker 3: do what you want to do, but you could do
Speaker 3: it too, bowing.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm of the same mind as Tina. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: you get in her head because she said it. No,
Speaker 2: I just I've always thought the same thing, like, there's
Speaker 2: no practical reason for me to for me to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna sell whatever. Whatever, Yeah, sweat face,
Speaker 1: I put my name on plastic water bottles. Whatever.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, only if you only if you'd be into
Speaker 3: the design and into the aesthetic of it. But something
Speaker 3: aesthetic would be interesting and fun.
Speaker 1: To work on. Perhaps perhaps watch the space. I can
Speaker 1: see it for you. I think you're a huge brand.
Speaker 4: I completely agree, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, y'all, I completely agree.
Speaker 4: But at least get a d in in that house
Speaker 4: and get them to walk around and your bowl of limes,
Speaker 4: show them your bowl of.
Speaker 1: Wait, who love lines? I love limes? I actually do.
Speaker 1: But but but she said I love limes. And then
Speaker 1: afterwards she was like, I don't know why I said that.
Speaker 1: She revealed later she doesn't know she does. She was
Speaker 1: like a joke. Wait, now I'm actually thinking because they say, like,
Speaker 1: just think of some images that you like and like
Speaker 1: things that you want to see around your house. I
Speaker 1: actually would love limes.
Speaker 4: I like limes are so good. Or how about this
Speaker 4: a bowl of art chokes. If you put artichokes in
Speaker 4: a bowl, you're a billion Really, yes, I guess that
Speaker 4: is what that means. If you put three artichokes in
Speaker 4: a silver bowl, you're You're done.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to have bananas on the table. Of course,
Speaker 1: you can do nothing. Stop. You can do that, you
Speaker 1: can do that, you can't do that. I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't think you understand what my has been like.
Speaker 1: It's only now that I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, very seven. Okay, we write we need to root.
Speaker 1: It down seven. My life has been so seven. It's
Speaker 1: been so like LA in New York, La, New York.
Speaker 1: Where can I go next? Coach again this weekend?
Speaker 4: Leaving out of a suitcase?
Speaker 1: Yeah, very that And I can't. I can't, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't. The seven has to the seven has to
Speaker 1: go to a nine peacemaker. Your space has to be
Speaker 1: your space is important? Yeah? It is? Is it is it?
Speaker 1: It is? What is your most interior designy motif? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love well, I love right now. My house is
Speaker 1: a California ranch.
Speaker 3: So I do like that kind of a tiny bit
Speaker 3: of Quaker Quaker's a tiny bit of Quaker craft. Like
Speaker 3: I like a wood like I like a wood bench
Speaker 3: with like a patterned cushion. I like like a nice
Speaker 3: patterned rug with like a black sofa. I like a
Speaker 3: warm tone chairs at mad warm tone table with like
Speaker 3: an amber light fixture. I like, I like a bit
Speaker 3: more masculine, so naturally, and it's very masculine.
Speaker 1: I literally what I said to the guy who's doing
Speaker 1: my apartment, and I was like, I wanted to be
Speaker 1: like masculine but light, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Masculine can sometimes be like too much like steel, not
Speaker 4: that you know the.
Speaker 1: Word, I said Redford, ooh, like it's kind of just
Speaker 1: like it's giving, like like not denim, but like like
Speaker 1: like yeah, warm masculine like wood, but with like little
Speaker 1: light blue denimy touches like because they say look in
Speaker 1: your closet, and that's like a hint as to what
Speaker 1: you might want to, like, yeah, look like.
Speaker 3: And I'm leaning lately less mid century and more like
Speaker 3: a little bit like worn and waspy y. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to do more antique and flea pieces than new pieces.
Speaker 1: But your masculine is callback Alan Alda. My masculine is
Speaker 1: Alan seventies sweet loves his wife. Because mid century is
Speaker 1: kind of done. Don't feel like everyone was doing mid century.
Speaker 3: Sure, once I Dwell came out like and everything was
Speaker 3: very like weird table and like, yeah, everything got a
Speaker 3: little too mid century and it's very la total well.
Speaker 1: The first time in the first apartment I ever got,
Speaker 1: I walked into West Elm and the first thing I
Speaker 1: said was does it look like I don't belong here?
Speaker 1: Because I thought like it was for fancy people. And
Speaker 1: they said, no, what are you talking about? We'll help you.
Speaker 1: And so, because I'm colorblind and have no taste, I
Speaker 1: was like, I guess I like this. And I just
Speaker 1: pointed to a display and they were like, you like
Speaker 1: just this? And I was like, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: like this for my living ground. They're like, you don't
Speaker 1: want to change anything. I go, oh, yeah, the rug?
Speaker 1: Which rug? Would you like that one? And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Great but but but they're not supposed to make you
Speaker 1: feel that way. No, they did it. They were so
Speaker 1: beautiful and lovely.
Speaker 4: I was telling an old story about yourself. I think
Speaker 4: you do have a sense of stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm color blind. I know a lot of men are.
Speaker 1: A lot of men are like, that's that's.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what do you mean that doesn't I was gonna
Speaker 2: say that doesn't. I don't think that correlates to taste
Speaker 2: or style.
Speaker 1: I have that very malleable in my settings, Like like
Speaker 1: I live I'm subletting something in New York right now,
Speaker 1: and the guy has like a crazy pink gallery wall
Speaker 1: with all sorts of different coloral pictures on it, and
Speaker 1: I've just been like, yeah, I live here and I
Speaker 1: like it, and I have no.
Speaker 2: Idea whether or not I do orgy. That's a sub
Speaker 2: lit reality. I'm I'm the one that's asking him, like
Speaker 2: what are the spaces? Yeah, you like, where do you
Speaker 2: feel comfortable? And I'm literally like, you should think of
Speaker 2: your favorite restaurant at Disney World. I love being everywhere.
Speaker 2: I love being in a sushi place, I love being
Speaker 2: in Mexican spy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but do you like like I like things to
Speaker 4: feel nice? Yes, I love texture.
Speaker 1: So I have these two chairs in my living room
Speaker 1: that are upholstered with them like that.
Speaker 3: Really fuzzy, like yes, the fuzzy stuff. Fuzzy stuff, he said, that.
Speaker 3: And why I like is when I walk by them,
Speaker 3: I like always.
Speaker 1: You set them, but they are clean. Oh but you
Speaker 1: know that's okay.
Speaker 4: This is You're not going to be worried about cleaning.
Speaker 1: I'm covered in buffalo sauce most of the time. I
Speaker 1: didn't tell you that I eat it. On the thing
Speaker 1: we ran through my financials, I forgot about like ninety
Speaker 1: eight percent of it is buffalo sauce. I have so
Speaker 1: much buffalo sauce all my shit.
Speaker 3: You know you should do just do one room. Just
Speaker 3: do one room, Like what would be your version of
Speaker 3: the nice of a nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's great, just one room. See what I
Speaker 1: love is like also like I love when I go
Speaker 1: to someone's house, like in the suburbs, and the living
Speaker 1: room is like the beach and the bathroom is the ocean,
Speaker 1: and that's just what it is. It's like almost every
Speaker 1: suburban house is like my bathroom is the bottom of
Speaker 1: the sea, you know, and that sea show.
Speaker 4: Well, I always say people's houses. People either want to
Speaker 4: tell you where they've been or where.
Speaker 1: They are oh one or the other. They never tell
Speaker 1: you where they're going so exactly, so it's like where
Speaker 1: have I been?
Speaker 4: I like have African masks, and I have you know, sorries,
Speaker 4: and I have like all this stuff that I've collected.
Speaker 1: We are in Denver, baby, and you're gonna know it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna know that we are in Colorado, like it's
Speaker 1: one or the other. Well, I think Matt has a
Speaker 1: lot to work with in terms of where he's been
Speaker 1: and where he agreed. One thing I don't want to do.
Speaker 1: A lot of gay guys like in their first apartments,
Speaker 1: they have a big gay picture, like of someone's tricep
Speaker 1: or like someone laying on the beach. It's just like
Speaker 1: this part of someone's I think I can. I can
Speaker 1: forego big gay picture and never sleep on a plant
Speaker 1: and a mirror. Plants have been something I never interacted with,
Speaker 1: and I love a mirror. Mirror plant can change a
Speaker 1: mirror in a plant and creates a large space. And
Speaker 1: there's like AI now that you can put your room
Speaker 1: in and it'll tell you all this stuff. It's increcb Ai.
Speaker 1: We're going to fix that with the Yeah that have
Speaker 1: you already spoken about it on the poda? We haven't.
Speaker 1: So we've heard you guys say that our new profile
Speaker 1: image for Lost Culture is us I am out of focus.
Speaker 1: I I do see it. I do think it is
Speaker 1: a striking picture. It's one of my favorite photos that
Speaker 1: Bowen and I have taken. And I'm hesitant to change
Speaker 1: it because Bowen looks so insane. You can't but I
Speaker 1: think I look good. It's just that I'm out of focus.
Speaker 4: I think it's she This is a really interesting experiment
Speaker 4: about how we see ourselves in how do we want people.
Speaker 1: To see us?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, But I think it's also a statement on depth.
Speaker 2: You are getting depth because this side of your face
Speaker 2: is not it isn't focused, and then this side isn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my right eye is in focus. But you know,
Speaker 1: don't you deserve to be in focus? I think I
Speaker 1: do you don't you? Absolutely?
Speaker 4: It doesn't one deserve to be in focused.
Speaker 2: I'm bringing my foe energy into this. I'm like being
Speaker 2: academic about.
Speaker 1: A lot of Yeah.
Speaker 4: And also you're it's an incredible picture.
Speaker 1: It is such a good picture. Thank you, And it's
Speaker 1: a great picture of you two. But I mean I
Speaker 1: would try to get in focus.
Speaker 3: You had said maybe AI can get you in focus,
Speaker 3: and you were saying, I don't know if I want that.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to necessarily support AI, right right,
Speaker 1: But then I got this, It's like you have to
Speaker 1: just we have to just kind of like succumb our,
Speaker 1: hands out. It's too late. This is all AI, everything, AI,
Speaker 1: everything is. I've been AI for nine years. This is
Speaker 1: going to be HI human. We are about to go
Speaker 1: into I don't think so human intelligence part of the podcast.
Speaker 1: So this is I don't think funny. This is in fact,
Speaker 1: our sixty second second where we sort of tear up culture.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've realized something. I was on the
Speaker 1: drive home with Patrick Rodgers, come back from Coachella, and
Speaker 1: a motorcyclist went by us really fast, and Patrick said
Speaker 1: his mom's nurse and said, you know, my mom saw
Speaker 1: the gnarliest things from motorcyclists, motorcyclists, and that was her
Speaker 1: one rule. You're never getting on a motorcycle because I
Speaker 1: have what I've seen in the er and one other thing.
Speaker 2: And this is what this is all the premble I
Speaker 2: think you're gonna do. So that that was just the preamble.
Speaker 2: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey, his
Speaker 2: time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Trampolines, you don't need it. Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: your kids don't need to be up that high. What
Speaker 1: I would say is get like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: get like a room, like a matted room, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like if you have a trampoline, you
Speaker 1: can afford a trampoline, you probably have like a playroom
Speaker 1: or a designated area where the kids go pat it
Speaker 1: like a cell. Have the kids toss themselves all around
Speaker 1: the room. That is better than trampolines. And also, let
Speaker 1: me tell you something about people. People who have trampolines.
Speaker 1: You're also good these days. People like, oh, in the
Speaker 1: good old days, we could just who cared about the
Speaker 1: nests on the trampoline? I could ride my bike to Connecticut.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't care. The good old days
Speaker 1: stuff is problematic, like protect your children. Don't even get
Speaker 1: me started on ziplines. Fifteen. You'll have some people with ziplines,
Speaker 1: like from one tree to the other in their own backyard.
Speaker 1: My dad made one for us, and we had a trampoline.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking back thinking I'm glad I have my neck.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. These when I want to
Speaker 1: say what my dad said to me to you when
Speaker 1: I was little, I used to play with a stick
Speaker 1: to the screens out if the trampoline over there, just
Speaker 1: get to hit a stick, have run around on the
Speaker 1: yard or in a padded cell. And also enough with
Speaker 1: the video games because your brains are melting. And that's one. Well, wow,
Speaker 1: I let my sister, I feel like the trampoline culture.
Speaker 1: He lost the teens at the end with the video games.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I lost the teens so long ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2: The teens are all about the slang has been video
Speaker 2: games with Jen Alfan gen Z like side Quest and NPCs.
Speaker 2: It's like this is permeating the culture with them in
Speaker 2: a way that I'm I'm like y'all, but we we
Speaker 2: all should develop a video game vocabulary on the basics.
Speaker 4: And I agree with you about trampoline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, none of my childhood memories include jumping on them.
Speaker 1: None of my good childhood memories, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm the broken bones. I know where you're going to
Speaker 1: end up. The pit, the pits and.
Speaker 2: The wait time is long? Is that part of the
Speaker 2: show A long times? There's a bed shortage. Oh, it's
Speaker 2: a it's a messive god, it's a mess. It's stressful,
Speaker 2: but it's real time, no scoring, grounded and acting.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it this morning, like when Patrick was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom said, it's insane. What you watch happens to
Speaker 1: the human body on motorcycles. And then he was like
Speaker 1: end trampolines and I was like, don't even don't even
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 2: I can't if you're gonna on kids, right, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna ride a motorcycle. And this sounds a little insensitive,
Speaker 2: at least go on the donor list, Well, yeah, at
Speaker 2: least make they so I'm of course, of course, come on,
Speaker 2: cut me open, get the cut me open and take
Speaker 2: this stuff.
Speaker 1: Some of this stuff is good in here. Yeah, some
Speaker 1: of this stuff still good. These Oh honey, someone should
Speaker 1: I was noticing them. Are are we giving gray blue?
Speaker 1: Well you know what I think we are. We're giving
Speaker 1: wonderful all right, Well that was mine.
Speaker 4: That was incredible.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is hard to do. This.
Speaker 4: Third, I just have to say, because you guys are
Speaker 4: so good at this.
Speaker 2: No, we're setting you up for success, and I want
Speaker 2: you to chime in on mine after I'm done.
Speaker 1: We're during please.
Speaker 3: Please okay, okay, So this is have you ever done
Speaker 3: someone's then they you've done what they were going to do.
Speaker 4: No never, I was sweating, oh yours because I have
Speaker 4: a little bit of cross over tinyments. Okay, really that's
Speaker 4: Goodmatically tied.
Speaker 1: Here is bone Yang's don't think so, honey, his time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Standards and practices,
Speaker 1: we should be able to say at least five ships
Speaker 1: and five bucks on SNL per season because after this
Speaker 1: whole ego otam miss Aggy, because these men ain't want
Speaker 1: ship moment first of all, favorite moment of televised absolutely ever.
Speaker 1: Second of all, we are so hampered in our comedy
Speaker 1: at SNL by not being able to say shit and fucks.
Speaker 1: Lest To and I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 1: Let us say shit and fuck like it's us, It's Abbot,
Speaker 1: it's ghosts, We're the we're the last network comedies.
Speaker 2: It's like, we can you give SNL an exception, an exemption,
Speaker 2: like if we're dismantling the FCC because of Trump, Like,
Speaker 2: can we at least.
Speaker 1: Can one boon? Can one can one silver lining be
Speaker 1: that we get to say shit and fuck? And I'm
Speaker 1: even keeping it to an allotment to an allotted five
Speaker 1: and five five ships, five bucks. It would make it
Speaker 1: would bring a sketch to the next level. It would
Speaker 1: it would it would make it so that you would
Speaker 1: be able to like know, oh, this is the real world,
Speaker 1: that's not the heightened sketch reality. Shit and fuck are
Speaker 1: so comedically powerful as words. I really think it would
Speaker 1: help us. And that's one minute. Yes, so.
Speaker 2: I don't think anything came down, which I love, and
Speaker 2: Ago is like, no, here hilarious, so funny.
Speaker 1: Don't you agree? When have it been this much more fun?
Speaker 3: And I'm going to say, NBC, I think you can
Speaker 3: monetize this, Yes, why don't you have a competition and
Speaker 3: people can vote like American Idol as to which cast
Speaker 3: member gets to say the ship Oh my god, if
Speaker 3: you want to say it, you know zero zero three
Speaker 3: too on your phone and let Bowen.
Speaker 2: Say thank you, or if you want to monetize it
Speaker 2: in a way that is like I don't know, like
Speaker 2: go fundme coded, like just have a fundraiser for our
Speaker 2: FCC fines and just help us cover our fines for
Speaker 2: the five ships and the five bucks that we get
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: You know, who should get to say it? Like whenever
Speaker 1: he decides to stop Keenan on his last episode. The
Speaker 1: whole ninety minute should just be him saying, whatever the.
Speaker 4: Well, you can treat it like vacation days.
Speaker 1: You don't use it, and it rolls over to the
Speaker 1: next year. And then you used to say ten of
Speaker 1: them yes exactly Saturday and rack them up. I really
Speaker 1: like that. I never understood, and I actually I don't
Speaker 1: understand because you can say you can say dick on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: It may offer one small counterpoint, yes please. I do
Speaker 3: think there's something fun about not being able to say
Speaker 3: it that causes comedic tension. Of course fun so you
Speaker 3: it may the air may be let out of that
Speaker 3: your balloon when you do, and you might not get.
Speaker 1: The juice that you wanted to use. You want it
Speaker 1: because you can't have it. I feel like sh it's
Speaker 1: not even really a curse word anymore. Come on, Like
Speaker 1: over time, it's like who is actually bothered? If their
Speaker 1: kids says ship? Who was actually bothered? Right? Fuck? I
Speaker 1: understand is one thing. It's like it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: I guess still it's a little taboo. But like ship
Speaker 1: an ass well, you can say ass you can't say asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say taint, but you can't know you
Speaker 2: can you can't say tane because it's a part of
Speaker 2: the body.
Speaker 1: Oh you can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we've had we've had standards notes on this.
Speaker 2: You can say, you can say taint, but you can't
Speaker 2: say like tat goots or whatever, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because it's like it's not anatomically precise unless.
Speaker 3: The musical guess is named good and then you can
Speaker 3: say ladies and gentlemen good once.
Speaker 1: Again, that would be that would be a hack. Anyway.
Speaker 1: That's that's my, that's my. Oh yeah, that's a good one. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a moment listen. Okay is that okay, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 4: Let me see, let me see all right, I'm ready,
Speaker 4: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: So this is Amy Polars. I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now. Okay, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 4: Horror movies, okay, Okay. Life is scary enough. I do
Speaker 4: not need to unlock a new fear. I have a
Speaker 4: very active amygdala. I have a decent amount of empathy.
Speaker 3: I do not want to watch a young couple have
Speaker 3: to eat their own eyeballs to get out of a
Speaker 3: locked room, okay, And don't tell me that it's about
Speaker 3: the rush of being in the same room with people
Speaker 3: and feeling social, because if you want to get that
Speaker 3: kind of like social bonding, you need to go to church,
Speaker 3: not a horror movie. And by the way, church is
Speaker 3: another thing that I don't go to anymore as an
Speaker 3: adult because I've realized it's not for me.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's three things that shorten your life.
Speaker 4: Motorcycle, I agree with you, smoking and violent images.
Speaker 1: And then lastly, this also means pranks. No pranks. A
Speaker 1: jump scare in a prank is a hate crime. If
Speaker 1: you prank me, that means you hate me.
Speaker 4: The only devil that I want to see on the
Speaker 4: screen is the one that wears pradact You, Sulent, I am.
Speaker 1: With you everywhere hard. I went to go see the
Speaker 1: movie Drop No. But can I say I advocate for
Speaker 1: this movie because it wasn't and this is an all positivity,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that scary.
Speaker 2: It was a thrilling, suspenseful not violent. You're talking about
Speaker 2: violent images.
Speaker 1: No, Yes, I am telling you.
Speaker 4: I don't like any kind of scare.
Speaker 1: No scary. When people die in a movie, it's sad.
Speaker 1: The world is too scary, the news is rough.
Speaker 3: I cannot handle my my nervous system cannot handle it,
Speaker 3: and I could never handle it. And I just want
Speaker 3: to say this, I did participate in pranks at one
Speaker 3: point in my life. The patriarchy comes for all of us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we all, but I apologize and I have listened and learned,
Speaker 3: and no more pranks for me.
Speaker 1: Honestly, we don't do We don't prank it. Have you
Speaker 1: ever pranked? You know the No, And I want to
Speaker 1: say I would never do that to you. This is
Speaker 1: a real call out.
Speaker 2: There were some Instagram accounts Diet Prada did a whole
Speaker 2: April Fools thing of like this is the casting of
Speaker 2: the Britney Spears biopic Aria Grande Troy Sivat, and people
Speaker 2: thought it was real and I'm like, April Fools, let's
Speaker 2: just no.
Speaker 1: More right now.
Speaker 4: We can't afford it. No, no, no, we can't because.
Speaker 1: People really don't know anymore what's feeling, what's fake and
Speaker 1: so to have a whole day of like fake as.
Speaker 4: But like when you look at the movies, it's like
Speaker 4: you what do you want to see the gorge or
Speaker 4: baby in the basket.
Speaker 1: It's like am I like, is this a punishment? Well, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean it's literally I think it's well, there's a
Speaker 1: whole community of people whose whole thing is like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go watch these movies where, like with The Final
Speaker 1: Girl of It All, I knows six or seventy young
Speaker 1: women are dead. No, no, when people die. You ever
Speaker 1: see the movie Zodiac? I did see tough for me
Speaker 1: because there's that one horrible scene. I know, he comes
Speaker 1: and murders the couple in broad daylight. I know, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? It's also real it happened.
Speaker 4: God, why do we have to make everything a movie
Speaker 4: about everything?
Speaker 1: True crime is so nasty?
Speaker 4: Why do we have to make If it was bad
Speaker 4: and it happened, let's not make a movie about it.
Speaker 1: We can read about it. We can listen to podcasts
Speaker 1: about it. See, but the podcasts are even worse sometimes
Speaker 1: because then it's like it's all happening in your head.
Speaker 1: You fill in the gaps image about true crime.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I had a moment, a true crime moment
Speaker 3: because I'm a white lady of a certain age. So
Speaker 3: I did have a true crime moment. But I can't
Speaker 3: watch anything I see. I can read, read, or listen.
Speaker 3: But I can't watch anything that's about true crime, like
Speaker 3: any of those daily any and even softy stuff like
Speaker 3: softball stuff, like I cannot watch it.
Speaker 2: The softy stuff count as does like cult stuff count
Speaker 2: as softy stuff.
Speaker 1: Cult a cult documentary, Well.
Speaker 4: That one isn't as bad, but I don't understand people
Speaker 4: that join cults.
Speaker 1: I can't relate even as Yeah, I was going to say,
Speaker 1: you have a high cult sensibility. I'm probably the closest
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: Like the one where the one yeah, because mother is
Speaker 3: resting is when she asked for the chicken parmesan.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, and this is my
Speaker 2: He doesn't watch it, but I'm like my selling point
Speaker 2: to him is like there's this whole segment in an
Speaker 2: episode where they go through her recipes like galactic taco salad.
Speaker 1: I asked for a bottle job. These people like, where's
Speaker 1: my chicken bat? Like it's amazing.
Speaker 3: The term mother is resting is incredible. I just like
Speaker 3: walking in wingings and everyone is sitting by her bed
Speaker 3: and it's like, I don't get it.
Speaker 4: I don't get it.
Speaker 1: It's tough. I just didn't want to see when I
Speaker 1: heard it actually dead and blue in the Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was really hard for my head around watching.
Speaker 4: Culture tough, But when a woman's in charge, it's.
Speaker 1: A little bit more fun. That is why it's fun.
Speaker 1: I even get scared of like urban legends and conspiracy theories.
Speaker 3: Also, like when I was a kid, no spooky stories.
Speaker 3: I didn't be like being scared. I didn't like I
Speaker 3: do not like that feeling.
Speaker 1: Oh there was show Are You Afraid of the Dark.
Speaker 1: This was on Nickelodeon when I was a kid, and
Speaker 1: there was one episode with Tiya and Tamara, who I love.
Speaker 1: The storyline was one of them gets like cursed and
Speaker 1: turns it into a lizard, and then the lizard becomes
Speaker 1: the other one, so like so it was this crazy
Speaker 1: situation where was it scary. One of them was a
Speaker 1: lizend and one of them was a real girl, and
Speaker 1: they were played by Tia and Tamara. Tia was like
Speaker 1: real and Tomorrow was like the lizard who had become
Speaker 1: a human, and their best friend, who they shared was
Speaker 1: like had to spray one of them with a hose
Speaker 1: and the one they sprayed would turn into a lizard.
Speaker 1: And the girls were like, it's me, Tiffany, It's me
Speaker 1: you know, it's me. And she was like, Tiffany, don't
Speaker 1: you remember the times you would have it recess? You do?
Speaker 1: And then she was like and it became a thing
Speaker 1: where she sprayed the one. There's a huge hug. The
Speaker 1: last scene of it is we'll say it's Tia has
Speaker 1: picked up the other listen and goes literally she didn't
Speaker 1: say this, it was Nickelodeon, but she was basically like, bye,
Speaker 1: bitch and threw her down a well, crushed her. And
Speaker 1: that was the real one, terrify. And that was children's
Speaker 1: entertainment entertainment that aired after Sesame Street. That literally they
Speaker 1: expected me, as a child of the nineties, to hold
Speaker 1: both these things that like miss Piggiest Queen and also
Speaker 1: like and at each other's fucking throats. One of them
Speaker 1: would see the other one dead, crushed at the bottom
Speaker 1: of a well, and I that was entered. That was
Speaker 1: like children's entertainment. Oh my god. In the goose Bumps books, R. L.
Speaker 1: Sign he was around UCB for a while, you know
Speaker 1: that a lot of as cats he came to. He
Speaker 1: was like, he was, remember one time I was going
Speaker 1: in maybe to do modern well. I think it was
Speaker 1: I think it was like he had been part of
Speaker 1: like a spank or something or like something was we
Speaker 1: were coming in to do Modern Night and come down here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is where it gets inside base. We gotta run
Speaker 1: out of it. Did give us a run? Amazing Earth.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's on YouTube. Maybe it's on YouTube. Well, damn,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is so fun. It was
Speaker 1: a good hack. It was a good hack. Congrats on
Speaker 1: having the most successful podcast in the landscape. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I hope someday you'll want to do it. We will
Speaker 1: want to do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, come on, it would be my absolute joy if
Speaker 4: you've been killing it, and I mean truly.
Speaker 1: The advice you know, we talked about advice before we leave.
Speaker 1: Any advice for me, don't change a thing about it. Okay.
Speaker 2: The reason we've done this for so long is because
Speaker 2: it's basically formally the same thing as episode one. Don't
Speaker 2: add too many bells and whistles. I was going to say,
Speaker 2: what you've innovated on in the podcast is starting out
Speaker 2: with that panel discussion with the people who know your guest.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's so damn it. That's really fun. Smart,
Speaker 1: and just keep it exactly the same. Don't change your thing.
Speaker 4: Don't overthink it.
Speaker 1: That's the think. And also like over time we accumulated
Speaker 1: more people because we started as like you know, you
Speaker 1: started it, and immediately it was like the the like
Speaker 1: everyone came and like you know, started listening. But over
Speaker 1: time people started to have like notes for it. And
Speaker 1: that's when you're like, oh, that's because everyone's gonna want
Speaker 1: something different from it. So I would just say, like,
Speaker 1: keep it fun for you, and like everyone's gonna want
Speaker 1: something different for like I like it when it's people
Speaker 1: from SNL or like I want to like when it's this.
Speaker 1: I like when it's like anecdotes or this, Like just
Speaker 1: keep having fun, stay true to yourself. Yeah, just the
Speaker 1: most boring advice, but listen to your instinct. What is
Speaker 1: your space? Redford Redford, red Redford All the seventies Queen seventies, Well,
Speaker 1: we had every episode with the song, Oh what is
Speaker 1: the song? Mmmm? It comes it's kept hold on hella,
Speaker 1: hell baby, you call. I can't hear a thing. I've
Speaker 1: gotten my service in the club. You see say what
Speaker 1: what what did you say? Oh? You're breaking up on me?
Speaker 1: Sorry I cannot hear you. I'm kind of busy. Kkana busy.
Speaker 1: Maybe beyonestly will come out this weekend when we're there.
Speaker 1: Shot Oo.
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Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yeg
Speaker 1: executive produced by Anna Hasnier and
Speaker 2: Produced by Becker Ramos, edited mixed by Doug Bami and
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