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Speaker 1: replay that line now until election day. Well good thing

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Speaker 1: do one day one to rein in Wall Street. We

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Speaker 1: which will pay for making public colleges and universities tuish

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Speaker 1: in free and eliminating student debt in America. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders, a man now so recognizable, I don't

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Speaker 1: even think I have to identify who it is. I

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Speaker 1: to show you how strong an effective he has been

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Speaker 1: at injecting his policies into the democratic uh discourse. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Congressman Derek Kilmer, Democrat from Washington,

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Speaker 1: chairman of the New Democrat Coalition. Will put it back

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Speaker 1: to what's going on across the world in Osaka, Japan,

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Speaker 1: at the G twenty. Download the Sound on podcast on

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Speaker 1: correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, where I'm joined

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Speaker 1: now on the telephone line by Congressman Derrek Kilmer, Democrat

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Speaker 1: from Washington, chairman of the New Democrat Coalition. I'm reading

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Speaker 1: from roll Call c Q roll Call cheer man. First

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Speaker 1: of all, thanks for being here. You helped usher in

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Speaker 1: this letter of more than one hundred House Democrats, including

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Speaker 1: many of the freshmen who won in moderate districts. They

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Speaker 1: want to talk to the Democrat presidential candidates. And according

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Speaker 1: to this letter, you say, quote our coalition was the

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Speaker 1: the House. Essentially, you're saying, hey, you know what, there

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Speaker 1: it's a group of people who are pro economic growth,

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Speaker 1: I got to let you go. You've been so generous

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Speaker 1: Zach Mechanist, a Democratic strategist and Max Burns, Democratic strategist.

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Speaker 1: I do want to get to this because President Trump,

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Speaker 1: he was over at the G twenty and he met

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Speaker 1: briefly with Russia President Vladimir Putin and joked essentially, UH

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Speaker 1: pointed his finger lightheartedly. According to my colleagues reporting on

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Speaker 1: the Blue we're terminal that don't meddle in the election.

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Speaker 1: President quote unquote, don't meddle and the election. President, don't

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Speaker 1: meddle in the election. The audio on it's so rough

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Speaker 1: that we can't even play it. We've got like literally

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Speaker 1: ninety seconds, But I do want to get uh your

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Speaker 1: both of yours response. Look, I might think it was

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Speaker 1: clearly meant as a joke, and it shows that both

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Speaker 1: he and Lamar Putin think that the Russians meddling in

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Speaker 1: our election is a joke. I think that ultimately it's

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Speaker 1: going to provide fodder for the House Democrats when they

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Speaker 1: have Mueller come testify before the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committee.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Republicans in Congress, I'm going to kick Trump

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Speaker 1: privately for selling us into a position we can't can't

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Speaker 1: argue easily by saying things that are completely indefensible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just for to both of your points in terms

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Speaker 1: of the democratic perspective. Senatementarity Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrat from

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Speaker 1: New York, he said, quote he seemed to be joking

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Speaker 1: and snickering with Putin about it. This is the well

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Speaker 1: spring of our democracy elections. For in an interference in

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Speaker 1: our elections, Americans will lose facing their democracy, and this

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Speaker 1: president jokes at it. It's appalling, disgraceful. It shows he

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be president. That's a satan put out by Schumer.

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Speaker 1: According to NBC's Kelly O'Donnell, last day in the White

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Speaker 1: House for Sarah Sanders. Stephanie Grisham officially now taking over.

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Speaker 1: That's it for me. Busy week. Thank you to our

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Speaker 1: great team here at Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin CURRELLI have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. I'll be back out of Monday. You're

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