Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphnews and Niga and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: All right, well here we are back for our episode
Speaker 3: two of the original Melrose Yay in a while, at
Speaker 3: least for the recap, at least for like doing this podcast.
Speaker 1: We had a little break because we did one episode
Speaker 1: and then YouTube jetted off.
Speaker 3: To Europe together to Italy.
Speaker 1: Or jet setting.
Speaker 2: You had a wedding.
Speaker 3: It wasn't my wedding. It was our daughter's wedding.
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about it.
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, it was amazing. It was a wedding
Speaker 3: in Italy and were beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Our daughter lives in Europe and so she had her
Speaker 3: wedding there and people traveled from you know, lots of
Speaker 3: different places to be there. And it was beautiful. It
Speaker 3: was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was beautif. There was a lot of excitement before
Speaker 1: you left about finding address. Did you find it well dressed?
Speaker 3: I found a few dresses, you know, as you do,
Speaker 3: then you have to narrow it down. Yeah, it all
Speaker 3: worked out. It was It was just beautiful. It was perfect.
Speaker 1: Oh. You sent some pictures. They were so stunning. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy for all of you. Thank you were still
Speaker 1: a little cute to see Doug, to see you guys together.
Speaker 1: You're still jetling a little bit.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I thought was amazing and such a baller
Speaker 2: act was you landed and then like joined us on.
Speaker 2: We all did this press day, which I mean I
Speaker 2: had been back for a couple weeks I think, and
Speaker 2: I did the press day and I was exhausted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you.
Speaker 2: Came back and like and your luggage wasn't even here,
Speaker 2: and you like did twelve.
Speaker 3: Hours of press YEP, had a little bit of travel drama.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 3: It was really fun to come back and have the
Speaker 3: launch to celebrate, and so we went out and did
Speaker 3: our press day for the launch on the actual lunch.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. And you know, I realized
Speaker 1: I don't have that muscle anymore. Like I looked at
Speaker 1: the schedule, I was like, twelve hour. I haven't done
Speaker 1: anything for twelve hours in May.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're like, I can't go anywhere this month.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is that is a long time to be
Speaker 1: away from home. I had to get someone to watch
Speaker 1: my dogs. My dogs were like, what is happening? But
Speaker 1: it was really so much fun to hang out with
Speaker 1: you guys like, I'm so glad I got to do
Speaker 1: it with you. It felt so different to do it together.
Speaker 1: It made it so much more fun than like that
Speaker 1: thing alone where people are asking you questions, because we
Speaker 1: got to play together, which was really a joy.
Speaker 3: If you had done it alone, who would have been
Speaker 3: there to photograph you taking a little snooze on the couch?
Speaker 1: I know, how would we have? You were jetgged and
Speaker 1: I'm the one who fell at the couch.
Speaker 2: You're smart camera and Laura just looks at me in points.
Speaker 3: I'm like like this and I like got to take
Speaker 3: that picture she was.
Speaker 1: They put it on the group chat and I was like,
Speaker 1: why did you take this? They said you were cute.
Speaker 1: I'm like, whatever, you were cute?
Speaker 3: You were cute. You were like, I don't know, very graceful.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you kept it because when I'm
Speaker 1: jet lagged, it's just over, Like there's just a point
Speaker 1: in the day about noon, and it's over. And you
Speaker 1: kept going. And your daughter was there amazing in charge
Speaker 1: of social media because she's young and knows how to
Speaker 1: do it with Sophy, Laura and daf and he just
Speaker 1: kept handing her their phones with the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone needs a Lucy Savant and just like here,
Speaker 3: help me with it.
Speaker 1: She was amazing. Yeah, yeah, she was amazing.
Speaker 3: She's awesome.
Speaker 1: She's Maybe it's such a time warp because we're watching
Speaker 1: these old shows and I'm watching you guys then, especially
Speaker 1: Doug as he was an episode two, and then I'm
Speaker 1: having these flashes of you guys now and the pictures
Speaker 1: you sent from the wedding. It's such a mind blower.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it seem like we'd kids in the show and
Speaker 3: now we're grown ups, Like we're watching the the children
Speaker 3: of ourselves.
Speaker 1: I don't feel as different as I should. I don't
Speaker 1: feel as different if I should.
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel any different like inside my body.
Speaker 3: But like I think, just what it seems like is
Speaker 3: like I am watching I'm still not in the episodes
Speaker 3: yet personally, but I'm looking at like the baby version
Speaker 3: of Doug. Yeah, the baby version of Allison. It's amazing, Courtney,
Speaker 3: Like it's so funny. But like now we're in the
Speaker 3: same room and going, oh, this is the adult version,
Speaker 3: but we get to watch this like.
Speaker 2: It's a cool thing about film though, because it feels
Speaker 2: like yesterday. Maybe, plus, you know, a couple of months.
Speaker 2: But to see you look so young, and.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's to say I look exactly the same,
Speaker 1: just for the exactly you were just.
Speaker 3: Perfect, like like.
Speaker 2: And it's totally with your hair and that little ponytail.
Speaker 1: We'll go through it. Yes, I'm excited because we talked
Speaker 1: to Tory Spelling and Jenny Garth yesterday and they said
Speaker 1: to become a fan of the show. And the pilot
Speaker 1: was hard for me to watch. I think it had
Speaker 1: such a visceral reaction. And last night I had a
Speaker 1: friend of when we were watching it, and I am
Speaker 1: I'm becoming a fan, Like there's enough distance, and I
Speaker 1: was so invested in the characters and I could see
Speaker 1: it from a little bit of a dis since they
Speaker 1: also had emotional reactions. But we will talk about that.
Speaker 1: As we get into episode two.
Speaker 3: Episode two, again we get to really see what's going
Speaker 3: to happen between Allison and Billy, and we find out
Speaker 3: let's see just a general synopsis of this episode called friend,
Speaker 3: Friends and Lovers. That's right, Season one, episode two, and
Speaker 3: this episode aired on July fifteenth, nineteen ninety two, while
Speaker 3: we were still on a Wednesday. While Moonlighting is a
Speaker 3: taxi driver, Billy picks up Marcy, a lively dental student
Speaker 3: who practically moves in, causing chaos and jealousy.
Speaker 1: From Furious About It to this day.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, in a crossover from Beverly Hills Night Out to
Speaker 3: and Oh, Kelly's crush on Jake intensifies, and so we'll
Speaker 3: see him getting really mad at a couple points in
Speaker 3: the episode, and after Jake's arrest following a brawl, Kelly
Speaker 3: bills him out but remains undeterred by his checkered past.
Speaker 3: Jane and Michael get into, you know, their relationship already
Speaker 3: struggling episode two, and they're already sort of not great.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we had a couple of cool guest stars.
Speaker 2: Doctor Ruth, Doctor Ruth. Amazing.
Speaker 1: We'll get there.
Speaker 3: That's that was totally amazing, all right, So like, should
Speaker 3: we just start on where let's.
Speaker 1: Get all right?
Speaker 3: The episode begins with Alison and Billy in the morning,
Speaker 3: starting their day in the apartment, and Ali says the coffee.
Speaker 3: Alison says that the coffee is too strong and that
Speaker 3: she doesn't want Billy reading the paper before she does.
Speaker 3: She has all these rules, but he's looking at the
Speaker 3: classifies Alison says she wishes she had someone to talk to,
Speaker 3: and Billy says, well, what am I chopliver but so cute, yeah.
Speaker 1: So adorable. So we go right into Jake's apartment. He
Speaker 1: has issues with the water. And it's so funny because
Speaker 1: you said Jake was mad.
Speaker 3: Super mad, so mad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so mad? Ye who he was so mad about
Speaker 1: the water? Startling shirtless? We started off shirtless well place, yes, yes, well.
Speaker 2: Place counted two minutes fifty five seconds until we get
Speaker 2: to see grants like the time sirtless and all dripping wet.
Speaker 1: I might add he I'm so mad, and was struck
Speaker 1: about that scene when he goes over to Thomas and Michael.
Speaker 1: I know, I want to say, Thomas, Michaels, Michael and
Speaker 1: James Janes apartment, Thomas and Josie that Michael's so calm
Speaker 1: and like together and tried to talk him down and
Speaker 1: he's mad and I'm flashing till later when the tables turn.
Speaker 1: But he was so mad about the water. Tensions were
Speaker 1: a little hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needed a hot shower that day. He was
Speaker 3: not getting it, and boy, that just sent him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're supposed to like notice the details,
Speaker 2: but like that was one of my favorite lines when
Speaker 2: he was like whenever someone else goes hot, I go cold,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And I just love like full of lines like that,
Speaker 1: like at the Very Good and that's the beginning when
Speaker 1: nobody would fight them. We were just like say the
Speaker 1: things as written and just nobody would say, can I
Speaker 1: ask you about it?
Speaker 3: Get a little smoother? Yeah, But there's where Jake is
Speaker 3: now telling Michael that he has a bad attitude, which
Speaker 3: I can't really argue with. I think Michael was always
Speaker 3: a little bit a little smug about it, Like yeah,
Speaker 3: I think so, But let's see where that takes us.
Speaker 3: So Randa and Allison are leaving for work and Jake
Speaker 3: runs into Sandy and tells him he's headed for the
Speaker 3: unemployment line, but she says, hey, stop by shooters later,
Speaker 3: maybe we can have a beer.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I have to say that scene. I think that was
Speaker 3: where I'm going to just jump ahead. The best worst
Speaker 3: hair might have been Amy like Locane's hair in that scene.
Speaker 3: Do you remember it was a little boofonti and that
Speaker 3: struck out. That struck me as like.
Speaker 1: Oh well that's yeah, that high the Southern Star.
Speaker 3: And trust me, I should not. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 3: throwing stones because I have some really impressive hair coming out,
Speaker 3: but I'm just it was a sort of a sign at.
Speaker 1: The times exactly I was looking at that's a lot
Speaker 1: of hairspray, That's what I remember. I was like, curl, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a lot. Well I had I don't know if
Speaker 1: I mentioned the last one, but I had had dark,
Speaker 1: dark hair and we were trying to get back to
Speaker 1: blonde and the best we could get was a sort
Speaker 1: of strawberry blonde. So I'm not even at my natural
Speaker 1: hair color. I've got this weird sort of level hair color.
Speaker 1: So right, you said that it was a very right
Speaker 1: and that low ponytail, which I remember it was very
Speaker 1: Did you like the low ponytail? I did? It was
Speaker 1: an actual hairstyle from my actual life. I hope I
Speaker 1: used less hairspray in my actual life, but I did
Speaker 1: have that. So then, so then Michael and Jane's apartment,
Speaker 1: and I do you remember I remembered them talking about
Speaker 1: this at the time, that she was always trying to
Speaker 1: get his attention, and you know, she's insanely gorgeous, right,
Speaker 1: and then she's constantly trying to get his attention, and
Speaker 1: you're like, are you blinded? Well, the same way when
Speaker 1: Alison was being rude to Billy, like is everybody on
Speaker 1: the show blind? Do you not see these people? Are like,
Speaker 1: she's so sweet, But there is a payoff of this
Speaker 1: at the end that we'll get to at the end.
Speaker 1: That really sort of got me in my heart that yeah,
Speaker 1: so this actually does pay off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she wants she wants to hear about you
Speaker 3: know what he remembers about them falling in love and
Speaker 3: he has nothing. I got nothing.
Speaker 2: But wait, I just think that that's an interesting theme
Speaker 2: about when people fall in love because you know, and
Speaker 2: this is this is sort of very common, like someone
Speaker 2: has a moment, you know. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: off in the woman or what, but for Jane, it
Speaker 2: was I just remember seeing you and I remember when
Speaker 2: you did this, and it's very specific. That's her idea
Speaker 2: of love and falling in love and his he didn't
Speaker 2: have that, and that creates the drama and the conflict.
Speaker 2: But people are like that, like, you know, think of
Speaker 2: our own partners or over the years, like they just
Speaker 2: remember just this feeling of safety maybe or they just
Speaker 2: remember like being nervous or excited. It's not a moment.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make it any less.
Speaker 3: And she's basically asked, can just tell me why you
Speaker 3: love me?
Speaker 2: And he can't come up with it. He's failing for him.
Speaker 2: And at this point in the at this point in
Speaker 2: the series, probably the last time I felt the way
Speaker 2: episode two.
Speaker 1: Then that's it. Yeah, it was really sweet and she
Speaker 1: played it so vulnerable. Yeah, yeah, it was really sweet.
Speaker 3: So from there we go to D and D and
Speaker 3: where Allison is seeing how the uh boss coworker person
Speaker 3: who took her to the event maybe not yeah, else
Speaker 3: did a work event accompanying him to the event. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I thought it was very interesting that her co
Speaker 3: worker told her that somebody else already reported it and
Speaker 3: it's fine, he's dead. You don't you don't need to
Speaker 3: do anything. Like she was, she went in completely empowered
Speaker 3: to go stand up for herself and say something to him.
Speaker 3: And she said something to him, and then she was like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to, you know, make sure to take care
Speaker 3: of this. And then the coworker comes and says, don't worry.
Speaker 3: Somebody already ill, somebody else already took care of this,
Speaker 3: so you don't have to do anything, and.
Speaker 1: It was like way outside, Yeah, now you don't have
Speaker 1: to do anything. Yeah, well, an example of how it
Speaker 1: would be different today. Right, that would have been a
Speaker 1: main storyline. Now it's like done, moving on, let's just
Speaker 1: wrap that up on the romance, right, Yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't. We kind of touched on it. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the issue it is today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just thought it was like wrapped up
Speaker 3: really kind of conveniently and just pushed away like, oh,
Speaker 3: have somebody else take care of it off camera, Like
Speaker 3: we don't actually have to see Alison going through with
Speaker 3: standing up for herself, So that was sort of interesting.
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 2: And we didn't see her get threatened by losing her
Speaker 2: job from the guy, which is what would have been
Speaker 2: was kind of all the narrative these days. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: woman can't speak up because there's a lot of stake,
Speaker 2: So it wasn't there that you know, worked for her
Speaker 2: very easily, about forty five seconds.
Speaker 1: Straight and moving on. Yah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and from there she there, somebody says, there's a
Speaker 3: cab for you, So did you suspect? Does Alison suspect?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: There's a cab waiting.
Speaker 1: Outside for neither Alison nor I had any idea that
Speaker 1: was happening. Yea, there's the adorable Andrew.
Speaker 3: Because we find out that Billy is now driving a
Speaker 3: cab instead of being an Arthur Murray dance instructor with
Speaker 3: the mob.
Speaker 1: That was the cutest.
Speaker 2: I love his excitement about the cab. Isn't as cool? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: by the way, like I never see cabs in La
Speaker 2: but I love it. It was a yellow cab and
Speaker 2: Billy was so couldn't have been hitting around.
Speaker 1: Yes, he picks up Marcy. Yes, in the cab. And Jensen,
Speaker 1: who played Marcy Jensen Daggett is an actress I've run
Speaker 1: into like a hundred times. She's one of these people
Speaker 1: I run into all the time, and we remember that day.
Speaker 1: That's amazing cross paths a thousand times. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 1: That is amazing?
Speaker 3: But now wait, he doesn't pick her up until you
Speaker 3: until Billy and Allison have decided they're going to paint
Speaker 3: the apartment together, which is kind of an important thing.
Speaker 1: She's kind of vulnerable for Allison to say, do you
Speaker 1: want to paint the apartment? I mean, there's a spark
Speaker 1: in her eye because she's ready to think there could
Speaker 1: be something.
Speaker 3: So they made this plan together.
Speaker 1: Which I think Alison considers a date.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, who wouldn't want to consider that a date
Speaker 3: because we're.
Speaker 1: Thinking you paint each other and then you make out
Speaker 1: that's how it is in everything. Kept waiting for that
Speaker 1: to happen. There's the montage and then she comes home
Speaker 1: and so this made me laugh. I had to text
Speaker 1: you guys about this. We're not supposed to talk before
Speaker 1: they bed. To text you because because Billy and Marcy
Speaker 1: walk in and he reaches to the mantlepiece above the
Speaker 1: fireplace and takes a strawberry, which is apparently where we
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what is something ahead here?
Speaker 3: But I do have to tell you that what I
Speaker 3: brought today is a random fruit hole. As you do,
Speaker 3: you just have random fruit hools. Sometimes you put them
Speaker 3: on the mantles. But I've brought oh yeah, there's strawberries.
Speaker 3: Time it's random react the seed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like that so happened in the first episode
Speaker 1: where they would go the director wants it to be
Speaker 1: decided to put the fruit on the mantle. All the
Speaker 1: actors are like all right.
Speaker 2: Like no, I think a lot of time. It happens
Speaker 2: a lot of time that's happens because you're like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like the blocking has to.
Speaker 1: Work with the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lunch is coming, and you know we can't have
Speaker 2: you go in the kitchen and make out on the
Speaker 2: way to the Bedgum, No, it has to happen here. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's where do the strawberry? I don't know, are they
Speaker 2: on the coffee tail? We don't have a coffee table
Speaker 2: because the camera's there, so well, what about here? The
Speaker 2: prop guy goes here?
Speaker 1: We're like okay, yeah, but later on we would say
Speaker 1: that we can't. That's ridiculous, and if so, because he
Speaker 1: goes to the mantle. So it's so word to figure out,
Speaker 1: try to figure out what it is. What I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought it was real fruit.
Speaker 3: I thought he was offering her a fake, like a
Speaker 3: wooden strawberry.
Speaker 2: I was like, is that a little wooden ball like
Speaker 2: a decorative? What is that?
Speaker 3: He's he's playing a trick on her? Here to bite?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gives her the strawberry and then they start kissing.
Speaker 1: And I had such a visceral reaction. Was so funny.
Speaker 1: I texted Andrew and I'm like, so I'm watching the
Speaker 1: scene thirty years ago. We're not even dating yet. We're
Speaker 1: at the time we weren't even dating. She's kissing him.
Speaker 1: I had this visceral get your hands off my man
Speaker 1: reaction als in my living room thirty years later, again
Speaker 1: not dating yet. I haven't dated for years. That's amazing,
Speaker 1: isn't that funny? I was like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: having and my girlfriend, who was watching with me, is like,
Speaker 1: I'm furious too.
Speaker 3: Like we were both well, it was mad. We were
Speaker 3: all on behalf of all.
Speaker 2: We were all mad. I love like.
Speaker 1: Andrew, Like I'm furious about that. What did Andrew say,
Speaker 1: get over it? I don't. I can't remember what he said. No, no,
Speaker 1: you off your remember he remembered time too. Just oh,
Speaker 1: it's just funny. That's watch it. I'm dying to know
Speaker 1: what your reaction is because it takes me when I'm
Speaker 1: surprised about this. Was so much fun about doing this podcast.
Speaker 1: It took me right back, like I'm right back in
Speaker 1: that moment in those scenes in a way I didn't
Speaker 1: expect to be right.
Speaker 2: It's opposite for me because I haven't come on to
Speaker 2: the show yet and so I'm not seeing myself. I'm
Speaker 2: seeing it as this lens pulled like as the lens
Speaker 2: is pulled out, and I'm seeing the stories all sort
Speaker 2: of fit into each other, and like with the writer
Speaker 2: and director from up here, and I'm saying, oh, that
Speaker 2: fits so perfectly, you know that, the parallel stories about
Speaker 2: love and you and then Jane, and I'm seeing all
Speaker 2: this fit.
Speaker 1: In I go.
Speaker 2: I had no idea because I was in my little,
Speaker 2: you know, trench of figuring out what I was doing.
Speaker 2: It's really fun to watch it now with seeing what
Speaker 2: they had in mind and kind of an overall view,
Speaker 2: and it's really it's really.
Speaker 1: Cool, though still super mad at Marcy.
Speaker 3: After Allison and Billy decide to paint the apartment toget,
Speaker 3: we find Sandy and Kelly both at Shooters and Jake
Speaker 3: is on his way there, supposedly to meet Kelly for lunch,
Speaker 3: but Sandy informs Kelly that Jake is actually at the
Speaker 3: unemployment office, and then we find him at the unemployment
Speaker 3: office where the guy at the counter gives him a
Speaker 3: run around and says he doesn't he didn't fill things
Speaker 3: out right and he needs to go back to the
Speaker 3: end of the line, and that's just sending Jake, who
Speaker 3: already started the day angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the water.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's not cool.
Speaker 1: It's just adding fuel to the fire. Everything that happens
Speaker 1: is adding fuel to his fire. Dammit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you notice how big unemployment was that it's
Speaker 2: a very crowded office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a very busy place, very busy. But then then
Speaker 3: is when we find out that Billy, back in his cab,
Speaker 3: picks up his first fair and it is Mercy where
Speaker 3: they have their you know, incredible meet cute and find
Speaker 3: out that they were at the same concert many years ago,
Speaker 3: bonding and it turns into not just like a cab fair,
Speaker 3: but kind of like a date and they hang out.
Speaker 2: For the day, driving around to the valley.
Speaker 3: The valley, he invites her to a restaurant and turns
Speaker 3: off the cab like not available as it's furious, furious,
Speaker 3: I'm as mad as eat strawberries.
Speaker 1: Off the that is happening and being all cute.
Speaker 3: Jake is at the unemployment office losing it. And that's
Speaker 3: when he has like the second you know, infuriating encounter
Speaker 3: where he stands up for the woman who's not able
Speaker 3: to get her check. I think that was the first time.
Speaker 3: I think we really got to see, oh, Jake is
Speaker 3: going to be a stand up guy and he's going
Speaker 3: to be like standing up for not just himself, but
Speaker 3: like on other people's behalf.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so he really got But you know
Speaker 2: what was interesting is that when the woman said to Kelly,
Speaker 2: you know your boyfriend has a track record of other priors,
Speaker 2: right with the police. So I was curious.
Speaker 1: I was like, what else did he do?
Speaker 2: I knew he did stuff protecting me and other people
Speaker 2: later in the show, but I didn't know, did anyone know?
Speaker 3: What I think is I think that was like a
Speaker 3: story point that that was like dropping them like character like,
Speaker 3: I know, we all just find out at the same
Speaker 3: time as priors.
Speaker 1: He's very clear about that stuff. But the other thing
Speaker 1: I got, so, you know when she puts her credit
Speaker 1: card to try when Kelly puts her credit card down
Speaker 1: to try to bail him out, I had totally like
Speaker 1: missed the Oh that's right, rich girl, Yeah, tough boy.
Speaker 1: That brought that storyline back for me. That was probably
Speaker 1: covered more on the nine o two and zero part
Speaker 1: of it, But I was like, oh, that's right, that's
Speaker 1: this romantic story of tough guy, rich girl. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be taken care of, but she really cares
Speaker 1: about him. I was like, oh, that is super romantic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the high school girl who has, you know, the
Speaker 3: credit card and she's willing to bail him out and
Speaker 3: that sort of pisses him off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a crazy time to have a
Speaker 1: credit card for a person that young. To have a
Speaker 1: credit card in the nineties was crazy. Now they all do,
Speaker 1: which is also crazy.
Speaker 2: I remember actually in college, well that was twenty years
Speaker 2: it was ten years before. I remember having seven dollars
Speaker 2: in my checking account and being offered a credit card.
Speaker 1: Because you're in college, they offer all of you.
Speaker 2: They did that back in the eighty early eighties, and
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I mean I thought it was
Speaker 2: like free money because it was a card and you
Speaker 2: could charge stuff even though you only had seven dollars
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well in uh, you know, Kelly's card was declined
Speaker 3: in that moment, which is you know, she was trying
Speaker 3: to use her parents card.
Speaker 1: And all right, do you kind of catch up now
Speaker 1: to where I am? I? Yeah, jumped ahead.
Speaker 3: So yeah, here's where then Alison, Billy Allison and Billy's
Speaker 3: apartment and Billy offers the strawberry.
Speaker 1: Yes, and Courtney, we've already already covered that extended date. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then and also Courtney is in adorable outfits. Your
Speaker 2: painting outfits.
Speaker 1: Painting are the super crap tang that overall to die
Speaker 1: for cute? Yeah, you're so, this is another thing.
Speaker 2: So we're scrunchies.
Speaker 1: So are scrunchies? Yes? Yeah, that was super cute.
Speaker 3: That you are super cute and she's painting alone.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because I just remembered, were you in
Speaker 2: a baseball jacket too? What was your jersey friend roommate wardrobe?
Speaker 2: Do you notice like?
Speaker 1: Nothing glorious? There's nothing feminine but adorable? And then backling.
Speaker 1: What I remember is sure that that I'm spackling and
Speaker 1: I can hear them like making out. That's the part
Speaker 1: that made me furious. I may have had an extra
Speaker 1: piece of pizza listening to that.
Speaker 3: And they come out of the bedroom then, and it's
Speaker 3: so the first thing Marcy does is acting to use your.
Speaker 1: Deal with me. I'm feel angry about the deodorant. Really,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2: Wrote that down.
Speaker 1: That was Is it okay?
Speaker 3: If I is your deodorant I'm like, what, that's grody.
Speaker 2: That's grody.
Speaker 3: It's grody. And then she has the nerve to like
Speaker 3: judge you for like putting your name on on your fruit,
Speaker 3: Like really, you just asked to borrow my deodorant and
Speaker 3: I post it on my piece of fruit.
Speaker 1: And then she's like no.
Speaker 2: She has a snipy little attitude and she goes with like,
Speaker 2: you know, love all over her. She's like, you put
Speaker 2: names on your fruit? Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna okay, keep going.
Speaker 3: So back at the at the police station now, because
Speaker 3: Jake has been you know, sort of hauled away from
Speaker 3: his altercation in the unemployment office. But he's released from jail,
Speaker 3: and Kelly uh Is obviously isn't so she's the reason,
Speaker 3: right she she paid cash? Is that what happened? She
Speaker 3: paid cash to get him out? Or how did he
Speaker 3: get out?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And of course so lovingly is a stay out of this. Ye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was talking about that.
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's all she needs to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we go back to Alison's apartment where Marcy just
Speaker 3: hasn't left. She still know she will not leave.
Speaker 2: I know. Now she's lighting candles. I love this scene.
Speaker 1: By the way, when you got in.
Speaker 2: Yeahs flammable, she puts it out. Oh, like she just
Speaker 2: takes over the apartment.
Speaker 1: You know, the disappointment of thinking, I'm going to see
Speaker 1: don't I come in going.
Speaker 2: Billy Yeah, in a kimono, lighting candles.
Speaker 3: Oh, you, I have to say, like it for a
Speaker 3: guest star to have so many scenes in such a
Speaker 3: big story arc, I think was unusual, right, Like, she
Speaker 3: h that was a huge story that she was. Usually
Speaker 3: it's like you focus on the series regulars and the
Speaker 3: guest star just has a little bit what she had
Speaker 3: a giant she just would not leave like that. You know.
Speaker 3: The nature of the storyline was like, this is a
Speaker 3: girl who will not leave.
Speaker 1: And she did a great job with it. Did a
Speaker 1: great job with it. I was so hilarious. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean so invasive and pushy and just oh.
Speaker 3: Yep, but but charming and she was great and had
Speaker 3: a ton of stuff to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to do that part because the lines
Speaker 2: were written. Seen after scene have seen her getting more
Speaker 2: and more obnoxious in the way she talks.
Speaker 1: To everybody else about him and the love tricks.
Speaker 2: And then you know that's but she played it so
Speaker 2: charmingly I think we all kind of fell for her,
Speaker 2: and then we're creeped out by her at the same time,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was curious at her from beginning to end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you hated her, but we were routing take
Speaker 3: her Allison anyway. So yeah, it was you know, she
Speaker 3: just never.
Speaker 2: Stood it, but she made it work.
Speaker 3: She made it last because well then, speaking of love,
Speaker 3: back in Michael and Jane's apartment, Jane is upset because
Speaker 3: Michael hasn't really revealed what it is that he remembers
Speaker 3: about them falling in love, and that's really sad. And
Speaker 3: then Alison comes in venting about her situation. She wants
Speaker 3: to see if she can spend the night there, and
Speaker 3: the irony of first love and those conversations is not
Speaker 3: lost on Jane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so sweet because then Allison says something
Speaker 1: along the lines of I mean, you guys are so stable,
Speaker 1: you guys are such a great couple, and they're in
Speaker 1: the middle of this fight. Yeah, like, okay, you can
Speaker 1: sleep here. I know ouch for Jane. It was very sweet.
Speaker 3: So then of course we get to the courtyard scene
Speaker 3: where it's a pool scene because you have got to
Speaker 3: use the pool and.
Speaker 1: Where Billy's bear chested with the barbecue and.
Speaker 2: The like barbecue.
Speaker 3: A couple of people are bare chested, right, we had
Speaker 3: a couple.
Speaker 1: Of iron zero. We had a guest chest.
Speaker 3: Chest is a brand new category because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll add it in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the guest chest. And all the people are
Speaker 3: at the pool and all those cute bikinis and oh,
Speaker 3: y'all were really cute.
Speaker 1: Did Jake have sunglasses on so he had a black eyes?
Speaker 1: I didn't see a black eye.
Speaker 3: I didn't see a black eye. I think it was
Speaker 3: just like his angry like I'm not speaking to anybody vibe.
Speaker 1: Okay, that guy from what well he got into I
Speaker 1: saw it. I thought get into an actual fist fight.
Speaker 1: There was kind of a tussle. But no, maybe it
Speaker 1: was maybe that choice. Maybe that makes them trying to
Speaker 1: like trying to pretend we're actually outside when we were
Speaker 1: all know we're in a sound stage fighting the pretend.
Speaker 3: So that was one of the last times anybody was
Speaker 3: allowed to wear sunglasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably true. Right, he probably said I would
Speaker 1: wear sunglasses. They gave him one shot and then Aaron's felling.
Speaker 1: Aaron'spelling note never again, for sunglasses.
Speaker 3: Around the pool is where Marcy really starts to be
Speaker 3: offensive because she's telling everybody like detailed stuff and like
Speaker 3: it was so cringey. And again, she was great because
Speaker 3: that was a hard bunch of dialect deliver and it
Speaker 3: was super cringey. It must have been improv.
Speaker 1: Like I think that her talking that must have been
Speaker 1: some improv because she was in so many little conversations.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Cringe is the perfect word for it. I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Improv aloud ever, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe she was terrific and it was definitely
Speaker 3: cringey about how much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2: Real and it was just listening. You notice no one's
Speaker 2: saying stop what you say.
Speaker 1: It's so uncomfortable. We've all been there was one of
Speaker 1: those people, right, he's giving you way too many details
Speaker 1: about their new person. You're like, oh, really, wow, nice,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see your hickey.
Speaker 3: But thanks for That's where Alison tells Billy that Marcy
Speaker 3: is the most aggressive woman she's ever met.
Speaker 1: That may have been well, I was certainly saying it
Speaker 1: home in my living room last night.
Speaker 3: There were some other words I think Allison could have chosen,
Speaker 3: but she chose aggressive, which I thought was fine, but
Speaker 3: then it triggers Billy's daydreams.
Speaker 2: It was so.
Speaker 3: Such a this is the signe of the times. He
Speaker 3: goes into the daydream and it's doctor Ruth. Yes, also
Speaker 3: it's amazing, But I mean, it wasn't it interesting that,
Speaker 3: like the Jensen had the scene with doctor Ruth. Right,
Speaker 3: that was kind of a big deal, probably a big
Speaker 3: get that they we have Doctor Ruth coming on Nola's place, Right,
Speaker 3: it's probably a big deal.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I think she had her own show at
Speaker 2: the time or was it all over the place.
Speaker 3: And then it's just so funny that that was the
Speaker 3: scene was with Jensen instead of Billy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Billy's having over sex tacaholics yet that was
Speaker 2: the term her diagnosis over sex. Oliver claimed over sex talcoholic,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yep, that's exactly tacoholic.
Speaker 3: I'm going to use that UF.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's the sense of humor in all this
Speaker 2: is really another thing that I get, you know, especially charming.
Speaker 1: And then this is so Billy comes back to reality
Speaker 1: when it's on fire, and then Ronda takes over the
Speaker 1: grill and tells him he's going to need his strength
Speaker 1: for tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also cringey, not gonna lie a little cringey, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he nearly burned the place down. And then Jake is
Speaker 3: walking into the courtyard to find Michael working on the pipes. Well,
Speaker 3: thank goodness, he's trying to do something about the pipes
Speaker 3: because we don't want to have another incidet.
Speaker 1: Like I was sitting there, going now, this would be
Speaker 1: an opportunity to have them both shirtless. They did not
Speaker 1: make that choice because they're doing like they're doing manly
Speaker 1: things to turn Yeah, but you know, there could be water.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just I'm just saying it's a missed opportunity.
Speaker 1: I think it's all I'm saying. I think.
Speaker 3: So that's a good note.
Speaker 1: I wish flexing with moving the wrench or whatever the
Speaker 1: hell it was.
Speaker 3: But they sort of have a conversation about, you know,
Speaker 3: sort of how they're similar and how Michael sort of
Speaker 3: understands who he is and why he maybe sort of
Speaker 3: doesn't handle things always correctly, right. Isn't that where they bond?
Speaker 1: That's very sweet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they totally. It was very But Jane of course
Speaker 3: opens the door to Sake at night, and we can
Speaker 3: see that she's still pissed off.
Speaker 1: Oh gooding, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe you love Jake more. I don't know, Jane.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's good, and that that was a subtext.
Speaker 1: That's a subtext.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think isn't going to need energy that night?
Speaker 1: You can you can rest tonight.
Speaker 3: But Billy, speaking of energy, is starting to question his
Speaker 3: situation and he's watching the creepy documentary about black widow spiders.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But Marcy joins him on the couch, and she doesn't
Speaker 3: seem to understand that that was sort of him questioning
Speaker 3: where the relationship is going.
Speaker 1: Education.
Speaker 3: Instead, she says, I think I love you.
Speaker 1: Zs clueless.
Speaker 3: Yep, it feels a tiny bit soon, a little bit,
Speaker 3: I think, And we learned it was only day two.
Speaker 3: I think it was so yeah. So Allison, then in
Speaker 3: the morning, is sitting when Billy walks in, and we
Speaker 3: realize that Marcy's still there. She's in the shower, and
Speaker 3: but Billy now wants to confide in Allison and say
Speaker 3: that he's maybe not so sure about this and kind
Speaker 3: of turning the tables right because he wants to talk
Speaker 3: to Alison. Alison's like, you know, none of my business,
Speaker 3: your problem sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's so clueless, ye, the thing I saw, like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can blame Billy the character for being
Speaker 2: such a like just a clueless but a lot of
Speaker 2: guys I remember when I was younger, what was like this, like, well,
Speaker 2: we just I mean, she's in love with me, and
Speaker 2: that happens. It's the it's the estrogen, it's the hormones,
Speaker 2: and you want to once you sleep together, you better
Speaker 2: watch out, mister, because she feels differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And then they're like, well, what do
Speaker 1: we do now?
Speaker 2: And she and the cluelessness of coming to you, well, Alison,
Speaker 2: the cluelessness of coming to Alison to say will you
Speaker 2: help me with the situation? Just totally clueless about it all,
Speaker 2: you know, like there's no like, look, I know, maybe
Speaker 2: you're not the you might feel a little nothing. You know.
Speaker 2: It's just like that kind of archetypal clueless guy, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It just that was very clear to me. Could she
Speaker 3: say all that part about the estrogen and stuff and
Speaker 3: your doctor Ruth accident, the.
Speaker 2: Incident she feels, she feels the sexual experience for a
Speaker 2: tlcoholic is much more dramatic than for somebody such as baby.
Speaker 3: So then Kelly's house where Kelly and Donna and David
Speaker 3: are walking out of her fancy Beverly Hills house heading
Speaker 3: to the hospital, which I missed. I was like, what,
Speaker 3: who's having a baby? Like I missed it?
Speaker 1: It went by I was in the hospital.
Speaker 3: Who they were headed to the hospital with balloons and
Speaker 3: gifts because somebody was having a baby. That came up
Speaker 3: really abruptly for me, and I sort of like, wait.
Speaker 1: Wait, got maybe that's a nine O, two and o storyline.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 3: And I only figured it out at the end like
Speaker 3: that it was her Why did I figure it out
Speaker 3: that it was her mom having a baby?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a nine not two and No, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's working well.
Speaker 3: So that was a crossover that didn't quite make sense
Speaker 3: for Melrose viewer, I think in the moment, certainly didn't
Speaker 3: for me. It's my first time watching that episode, yes,
Speaker 3: but anyway, that's where Jake wants to give Kelly back
Speaker 3: the two hundred dollars and he goes to shooters having
Speaker 3: a beer. Billy comes in and they're trying to have
Speaker 3: a conversation about like relationship advice and like Jake's dude,
Speaker 3: I don't really know how to help you.
Speaker 2: I got my own girl trouble. She's sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then Sandy's still trying to, you know, work
Speaker 3: her way into Jake's life, and Jake asks Sandy out
Speaker 3: for a beer, but she thinks, you know, hard to get. No,
Speaker 3: I don't think you're yeah, I don't think you're ready
Speaker 3: for that, So she sort of turns him down there,
Speaker 3: and then we're back to the courtyard where Billy is
Speaker 3: pacing by the pool and Marcy shows up in a
Speaker 3: red dress and gives him a hug, but Billy tells
Speaker 3: Marcy that he is not so sure he wants to continue,
Speaker 3: and that Marcy's coming on too strong.
Speaker 1: And they really, they really let him off so easy
Speaker 1: with this, because a woman who would be that obsessed
Speaker 1: in that crazy wouldn't say, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, you're right, I do this, I do this
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 1: That's not the reaction of someone who's that sort of unhinged.
Speaker 1: But I think we just kind of wanted to move
Speaker 1: her out nicely, not have him look.
Speaker 2: Like the bag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she would not, I'm thinking have handled it quite
Speaker 1: as gracefully.
Speaker 3: As she did again a convenient writer. Yes moment, just
Speaker 3: let's get this wrapped up and make her apologize and
Speaker 3: go away.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we don't want him to be a
Speaker 1: bad guy. Yeah, so have her take it all on.
Speaker 3: So she does, she goes away.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And then we are on the scene where Michael and
Speaker 3: Jane are in the apartment and Jane is apologizing to
Speaker 3: Michael for being a jerk.
Speaker 2: Yeah wash, she a jerk.
Speaker 1: Well, she's playing sort of what I read from her performance,
Speaker 1: which is really great. It was that she's sort of saying, look,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. She kind of wants to put it under
Speaker 1: the rug because she doesn't want it to be an issue.
Speaker 1: She's still upset, but she's apologizing for her part. She's
Speaker 1: really keeping it right underneath. And then when he starts
Speaker 1: talking about how he feels, it's a beautiful shot because
Speaker 1: we're looking at her with him in the background, and
Speaker 1: you see it on her face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her face was so really beauty, somtionful.
Speaker 1: So vulnerable, so sweet. And then that moment when he
Speaker 1: says it's every moment and she turns around and she
Speaker 1: jumps on his lap, and I was like, oh, yep,
Speaker 1: Michael pulls it out, so.
Speaker 3: We finally have a good moment and it was lovely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was an interesting way to start it,
Speaker 1: with her apologizing and then him saying no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: Look well, I mean I find myself doing that, like
Speaker 2: because to her, the connection is what she misses. The
Speaker 2: connection is more painful than anything else. So she needs
Speaker 2: to come back to him because he's not going to
Speaker 2: apologize clearly the writer's let you know, someone has to
Speaker 2: so they get back together, so they feel that connection,
Speaker 2: like regardless of when we remember it. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: I I've been in up situation while I say I'm
Speaker 2: sorry for you know, maybe I shouldn't be the one too,
Speaker 2: but the connection is what important.
Speaker 1: So that's true.
Speaker 2: It kind of felt really normal that she would even
Speaker 2: though I would love to have heard it from him.
Speaker 1: But that's why I think he's a really well written scene.
Speaker 1: She is the bigger person, she's the emotional center, and
Speaker 1: then that gives him the space and she has that
Speaker 1: beautiful reaction that they come back to you. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was real. I thought that was really well done. That
Speaker 1: was such a great payoff that conflict. Yeah, really sweet.
Speaker 2: Really, it seems so mature, don't they but your couple
Speaker 2: in the building.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So then Jake is coming on his motorcycle again
Speaker 3: to the house and Kelly's there and he decides to
Speaker 3: take her out on his motorcycle. So he really can't
Speaker 3: figure out what he's doing.
Speaker 1: That awe vulnerable scene for him, Like when he comes
Speaker 1: to her, he looks sweet and vulnerable and soft. That
Speaker 1: was a lovely things. Think she's too young, but that
Speaker 1: in that moment you go that to she sees in
Speaker 1: him that's a sweetness. Ye, And he was.
Speaker 3: He was really vulnerable, and that's when he says, I
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, I don't know why I'm doing
Speaker 3: this and what what I'm doing, But like it was,
Speaker 3: it was authentic and vulnerable and sweet.
Speaker 1: It really was.
Speaker 3: So he went from angry guy to loveland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they ride off together. So it is there
Speaker 1: the kind of rooting for.
Speaker 2: Him and then our payoff with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah and Billy painting the apartment side by side exactly
Speaker 3: what we all wanted to be seeing.
Speaker 1: Yea favorite adorable watched the.
Speaker 3: Drips and they didn't they didn't actually do the extra like, oh,
Speaker 3: you got a little paint on your we did.
Speaker 1: We didn't on this because we had to. He called us.
Speaker 1: I don't know when when the characters got together, but anyway,
Speaker 1: but they wanted to keep it. But it was cute
Speaker 1: and then you pull out and hear us laughing.
Speaker 3: That was very se like that, but you did only
Speaker 3: I don't it's going to take a really long time
Speaker 3: for those two to get that apartment painted because you
Speaker 3: just like painted every one over and over. They're nervous.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to like.
Speaker 3: I've done so much house painting at my own house.
Speaker 3: It was like making me anxious, like longst.
Speaker 1: We're matching, we take fund right, but I know, I
Speaker 1: know that's it.
Speaker 3: I'm never going to get done at this.
Speaker 1: And that was so sweet. Yay yay.
Speaker 3: So what were your We sort of touched on it
Speaker 3: a little bit bit, like what were your moments that
Speaker 3: were like sign of the times? So I just want
Speaker 3: to jump back quickly and remember I told you last time.
Speaker 2: I think it was that Darren and I were roommates
Speaker 2: in college and he said, like a lot of Allison
Speaker 2: was based on me because the guys would never shop
Speaker 2: and like I would just notice like things disappearing, you know,
Speaker 2: things like that I was just like, Okay, if we're
Speaker 2: going to share this little this little refrigerator or schef,
Speaker 2: like it's just if your name isn't on it, then
Speaker 2: don't eat it, you know, just stuff like that. And
Speaker 2: I and I realized, like, and I did this movie
Speaker 2: back in eighty three called The sure Thing, and uh,
Speaker 2: I know that Darren loved that movie. And again I
Speaker 2: was the uptight one called Alison in that movie and
Speaker 2: John Cusack played this this total slob kind of guy
Speaker 2: like Andrew was just the guy's messy and I just
Speaker 2: feel like I got to see that now, oh this
Speaker 2: whole again. It's very archetypal stereotypical where the you know,
Speaker 2: there's roommates. So I'm like, but Darren, I don't think
Speaker 2: he was falling in love with me in college, because
Speaker 2: I think he's probably falling in love.
Speaker 3: With the frack guys in the front of our It
Speaker 3: was charmed by you.
Speaker 2: But I just loved seeing that that A I didn't
Speaker 2: realize I was so anal. You didn't play it that much.
Speaker 2: But the character I did in The sure Thing was
Speaker 2: really anal That was definitely her characteristic. But at any rate,
Speaker 2: I do remember doing that and that stood out for me.
Speaker 1: I thought that.
Speaker 2: I thought the humor and the writing really stood out
Speaker 2: for me. Again, when I came onto the show as Joe,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of drama and hellish negative stuff that
Speaker 2: happened to her. But to see the comedy and that he.
Speaker 1: Were in this was really cool, the sweetness in the beginning.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, yeah, yeah, I think the sexual harassment
Speaker 1: thing felt like a sign of the times, how they brushed.
Speaker 3: It under the rug and the Doctor Ruth's appearance doctor sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you had a great line too, And I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: in my notes here because I want to get it right.
Speaker 3: You were a Midwestern nitwitt. Do you remember the.
Speaker 1: Cracked me up? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was like, I need to write that down and
Speaker 3: I did. It was something about being in midwesternwik I
Speaker 3: relate to that. That one cracked me up too. All right, Well,
Speaker 3: that was super fun. And when we get to we
Speaker 3: get to talk.
Speaker 2: With Gras first guest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so excited and yeah, I can't wait to have
Speaker 3: that conversation. Then we get to the next episode, I
Speaker 3: can't wait to see what happens.
Speaker 1: Y heay, I love this. We're having so much yay.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll hear you guys. Talk to you guys soon.
Speaker 3: Still the place,