1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: It's the show that she has the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: because it's what he likes to do, it's what he 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: likes to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Here we go. 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: First of all, thank y'all for listening to my show. 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Thank you guys for supporting the show. Following the show 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: on Moneymakingconversation dot com. That's the website you can go 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: to if you trying to find any of their past 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: episodes or any of the episodes that you want to 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: share with other people. I really appreciate it. I can't 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: get here without you, guys, acknowledging and calling in and 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: requesting certain guests that I reach out to and bring 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: on the show so we can continue this road to success. 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: The road success is about time to information. Information that 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: I want to give to everybody. And that's what money 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 3: Making Conversation master Class. It used to be called just 23 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: money Making Conversation. Then when I realized what I was 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: doing and I was mentoring people and providing information, I 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: added masterclass to it. So let's get this roll in 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: with my first instructor of the of this hour. My 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: guess is a passion It's very passionate about bringing people together. 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: Kimberly's dedication to fostering community led her to create the 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: HBCU Social mobile app. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: master Class, Kimberler Kissinger. How are you doing, Kimberly? 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: I am great, I am fantastic. How are you pretty good? 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: HBCU we talk about HBU. 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Giv me your HBCU background so we can get all 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: this all this out with hbc you one hundred percent. 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go on. 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: I am the proud graduate of the illustrious Clark and 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: Lanta University Class of nineteen ninety five Bachelors of Mass 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: Media Arts, Radio, TV Films. So that is my HBCU history. 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: Well, why did you go to an hbc what did 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: you have other options? And you just said this the school. 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: I wanted to attend YEP, great question. So throughout my 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: entire elementary school, middle school, and high school, I went 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: to predominantly white colleges and high school and school, and 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: so I wanted to go to a college where everybody 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: looked like me. So I can't completely give that complete credit. 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: I also have to give credit to school days as 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: well as different world. And then my sister she went 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: to Hampton University, so I was able to go visit 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: her at Hampton. So from there I was like, oh, 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: I have to go to the hbc. 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: Well know when we're talking about social but before we 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: get there, when you think about HBCUs, of course, you 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: always think about halftime, the bands, the marching bands, and 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: we think about sports, especially football and right and then, 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: but we tend to forget about the academics. I think 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: when you're talking about what is an HBCU, we go 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: to the marching bands, to the halftime show. Some type 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: of people call it the fifth quarter of a football game. 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: It's called a halftime show. I remember when ESPN when 60 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: they started airing the HBCU games on ESPN platform, they 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: weren't showing the halftime. They would go to halftime highlights 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: and it was such a complaint that they now have 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: to show the halftime on another channel because there's so 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: many complaints for not seeing the halftime show at HBCU games, 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: And that's how powerful these halftime show performances are with 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: these marching bands. Do you feel we do enough job 67 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: promoting the academics of HBCUs. 68 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: No. 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: I think there's always room for improvement. I think yeah. 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: I mean that's part of the mystique of going to 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: an HBC school. It's the homecoming games, the halftime shows, 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: and that's always the entertainment portion of it all. But 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: I think yes, I think we can do a better 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: job of letting the world know that we're not just 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: a party school. It's not party time. We're also about 76 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: our books. We have to remember that HBCUs have the 77 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: historically played a crucial role in providing access to higher 78 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: education for African American students. I mean, particularly during the 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: time when you have segregation and discrimination barred us from 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: attending the predominant white institution. So today attending the HBC 81 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: is very vital and crucial to our students because they're 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: on these underrepresented backgrounds to pursue higher education. I mean, 83 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: you have some great programs and social work, STEM programs, 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: you know, even in entertainment, mathematics, history, math, media, arts 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: to radio, TV, film, and so there's a lot of 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: great opportunities at HBC schools. And then in some of 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: these institutions you have graduate programs, and so we can't 88 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: we can't forget about that. So I think, yeah, I 89 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: think we could do a better job of making sure 90 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: that we talk about those areas as well. 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 5: Well. 92 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: Kivira Leman heavy out with numbers, some facts. Okay, you know, 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: the black teachers come from Hbcusvent Dennis and medical doctors 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: come from HBCUs who are black. Forty percent of the 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: members of Congress who are black come from HBCUs. The 96 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: STEM graduates who are black come from HBCUs. These are 97 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: numbers that you know, the legal profession, same thing, dominant 98 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: amount of blacks who in that area come from HBCUs. 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: And so but if you don't tell that story, then 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: the predominant white institution, I guess, can take credit because 101 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: nobody knows right. 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, You're absolutely right, and those numbers like, yeah, 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: that's that's great data, but who else knows about that? 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, the reason I bringing that up because recently the 105 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: richest man in the world, Elon Musk, you know, was 106 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: talking about co signing a claim that black students who 107 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: attend HBCUs have low IQs, and I was all started 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: about that. Not United Airlines started this pilot program and 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: they had chose three HBCUs and they start looking at 110 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 3: SAT scores and they started people tend. 111 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: To tie hbc used to IQ's. 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: It's just a test because I my SAT score was 113 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: so bad it was ridiculous. I only got into college 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: because I had good academic training. I won't even reveal 115 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: that score on this radio show. That's how bad it was. Okay, 116 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: so please don't tell me that you know sad scores 117 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: mean you're really smart and that I'm living proof the 118 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: smartness drifted past that test score when it came to 119 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: ra Sean mcnonal. Okay, now, But but people use these 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: test scores and use this propaganda, especial in social media, 121 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: to bar opportunities of people who may be considering hbc US. 122 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: That's all. 123 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about fighting that negative, that the mantra 124 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: that can be out there that's being politicized, and that's 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: really the backbone of what you're doing with this app? 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: Correct? 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly correct? 128 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Background and inspiration why. 129 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 4: So it really all came from having a conversation. That's 130 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: why you don't underestimate the power for conversation, right, and 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: ouration with a college one of my best friends from 132 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: college and her daughter was attending an hbc school and 133 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: she was complaining about the lack of dating options at 134 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 4: her school. And you know, she and I were talking. 135 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: We're like, you know, what wouldn't it be? I was like, 136 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: wouldn't it be amazing if we had like some type 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: of an app where students can connect with other students 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: at other university HBCU colleges and universities, not just for 139 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: dating purposes, but also for networking, for sharing their work 140 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: if they're working on a project, but not just for students, 141 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: but also for alums. And there's nothing out there like that. 142 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: But more important, we also hear that from some of 143 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: these corporations, Oh, we can't seem to find a talent 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: or we don't know where to look for them. You know. 145 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: So now it's like, okay, this could also be a 146 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: conduit for job listings, internships, and events, so we can 147 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: tackle behole HBCU community so that's where the idea came from, 148 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: is that you know, there isn't out anything out there 149 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, how we have Facebook, Yeah we have Instagram, 150 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: we have Twitter. So essentially those could be my competitors. 151 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's not really tailored to 152 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: just the HBCU community. This is for us by us 153 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: stealing Fulu's line. But that's basically what it is now, Kener, this. 154 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: Is money making conversations that you called inn on. Okay, Now, 155 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: HBCUs that's a community. Then you have predominant white institutions. 156 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: Now it seems to me in a money making conversation 157 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: that it can be expansive if you decided to just 158 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 3: go universal. So why did you strictly focus on the 159 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: HBCU conversation. I'm talking from a money making conversation. 160 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: Money making standpoint. Listen, I hear you. I think that. Yeah, 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: I when I pitched this idea to certain investors and 162 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: different people, it was brought to my tension, even from 163 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: a black person, right right, right, great idea. I think 164 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: it can make a lot of money, but I feel 165 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: like you can make more money if you expand it 166 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: to the white community. And my question was which is 167 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: why I tell people, you know, don't give up on 168 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: your passion and your dream and what you know within 169 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: your heart to do. And yeah, I could have done that, 170 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: but I'm not just in this for the money. But 171 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 4: just like I can make money opening up to predominant whites, 172 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: I can also make money within our own community. We 173 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: keep forgetting we can tap into our own community. But again, 174 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: what is your motivation. My motivation was not necessarily to 175 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 4: just make money. My motivation was to bring the community 176 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: together to give opportunity for networking experiences across all the 177 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: ABCU schools as well as all the different alum as 178 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: well as corporations. Now won't have excuses they can't tap 179 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: into our network because now there's going to be a 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: conduit for them to tap into. And yeah, if I 181 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: can make some money off of that, at the same time, 182 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: of course I want to do that, but that's not 183 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: my sole motivation. So no, I don't want to open 184 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: up to them because they already have it. Facebook, Instagram, 185 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: all of those were made by white men. This is 186 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 4: something that was designed by an African American woman who 187 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: attended an AHBCU school, and this is for us by us, 188 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: as I said earlier. 189 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: Cool, I'm talking to Kimberly Kissinger. She's built out and 190 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: HBCU's social mobile app. Let me ask you this. So 191 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: this is technology. You know, apps are huge. I noticed 192 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: that my podcast, ninety five percent of the people use 193 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: them cell phone. Nobody goes to the desktop to listen 194 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: to my podcast. That's generally that's why such a younger 195 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: group of people use the mobile apps, because everybody's really 196 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: living their lives through their cell phones. So are you 197 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: talking in the parents? Are you trying to reach the parents? 198 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: Are usually trying to reach the young people. What's your audience? 199 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: So the audience is the entire ahpC community. So that's 200 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: the lums, that's that's undergrads, that's Divine nine members, that's 201 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: ABCU supporters like yourself. It's basically our entire community. When 202 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: you get down into internships or events or jobs listings 203 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: and things of that nature, they may be specific to 204 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: like internships are for the undergrads. You want to go ahead, 205 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: and there could be different types of events that are 206 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: gonna be tailored to the collegiate community. So anything that 207 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: affects us, that's what's gonna be in the app. So 208 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: it's for everyone. We didn't just want to just make 209 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: it to the for the young folks. Because here's the 210 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: thing now again, we also this is money making conversation. 211 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: So of course I designed the app, so total motivation 212 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: was not money, but I do want to make some 213 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 4: money off of it. Young people they're gonna pay, but 214 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: maybe they won't. But we know that older people are 215 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: gonna have no problem paying. Right. Usually young folks may 216 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: have the ass commission, Hey can I pay a dollar? 217 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm not saying they won't do it 218 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: because they pay for everything else. But you got to 219 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: open it up a little bit wider within that, within 220 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: that field of people so that you can make money, 221 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: so that you continue building out the app and making 222 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: it better. 223 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: Really, it's really about can we break down because when 224 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: you sit around thinking about the things that you're trying 225 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: to do with the app, because, like you said, originally 226 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 3: thought the dating side, no parents gonna pay for a 227 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: dating app for their Well, now you know the academic opportunities, 228 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 3: the job opportunities, then turn opportunities, internship opportunities. Parents will 229 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: look at that because that's all we're trying to do, 230 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: you know, all I try to do for my daughter 231 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: was giving her a leg up. And I feel when 232 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: you when the whole creation of this is that there 233 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: are bills to be paid. Let's got nobody can just 234 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: dumb an app. Okay, you can say what you want. 235 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: You know, they say social media is free, you know, 236 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: but then they still want you to boost ads and 237 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: boost posts, you know, to you know, to further your 238 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: reach within our world, you know. So they are They're 239 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: always gimmicks, and I shouldn't call them gimmicks. Is marketing strategy. 240 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: You can either come online here and I'm gonna let 241 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: you sign up for free, but if you really want 242 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: to reach people, go cost five dollars, maybe fifty dollars 243 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: and one hundred dollars if depends on how many people 244 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: you're trying to reach. 245 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: So everybody has a strategy. 246 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: Your strategy up front is that it allows you to 247 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: come on and and and meet these these relationships, whether 248 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: there are job opportunities or to internship opportunities. How did 249 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: you how did you find the internship or the job 250 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 3: opportunity that you are making available on your app? 251 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, good question. So right now, everyone, it's a one 252 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: woman show over here at HBC Social. 253 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: You need Miam. You need myam Kimber, I am you. 254 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 4: I care And so the app just got dropped in October. Okay, 255 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: this is the labor of love for two years. And 256 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: as you mentioned earlier, you know after expensive and basically 257 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 4: I put in a lot of my sweat and tears 258 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: and my own money equity equity, and also had the 259 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: benefit and just the blessing of having someone who really 260 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: believed in me and gave me a lot of the 261 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 4: money to actually fund the app, might you know, get 262 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: the app done myself because I'm not a techie, so 263 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: I had to hire app development company to help build. 264 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: I came up with the concept and the idea, but 265 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: I don't know how to code and so, and I 266 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: wanted the app done to be the right way. So 267 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: going back to your question about where do I find 268 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: the job listens and internships and events. One, I'm very 269 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: well connected with different people in various industries. I also 270 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: get I have friends who helped me out send me 271 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: information from LinkedIn. I'm very active on social media, so 272 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: some of the different sites I see on Instagram and Facebook, 273 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: you know that I go get it. I'm also connected 274 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: with other partnerships with other organizations and I pull from 275 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: there or whatever. So I just try to find it 276 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: wherever I can until I'm in a position where I 277 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: can get some additional help. And so that's that's what 278 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: I do. I try to make sure I'm in tuned 279 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: to what is going on, the pulse of what's going 280 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: on and what internships are out there. 281 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Cool. 282 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: When we come back, we're going to listen to how 283 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: we can help out Kimberly because she's raising our head 284 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: on Monday and Conversation master Class. It's about the community 285 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: and also people outside of HBC community community can also 286 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: help build out this app. You know, basically an HBCU 287 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: indeed basically what she's trying to offer from an employment standpoint, 288 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: be right back for more Money Making Conversation master Class. 289 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 5: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 290 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: with rough Shan McDonald. 291 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Kimberly. 292 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:25,479 Speaker 3: As we just letting everybody know the app really connects students, alumni, faculty, 293 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: Divine nine members, which I'm I'm a member of Megasi 294 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: five fraternity, so you connected me and supporters do a purpose, 295 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: purposeful and engaging mobile app. When you say engaging, what 296 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: does that mean when you said, I got purpose full, 297 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: But what does engaging mean? 298 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So engaging is you have to keep it relevant 299 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: and interesting for people who want to stay in the app, 300 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: to share the apps who want to use it, and 301 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: right now, you have to do it in phases, right 302 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: because as we said earlier, you know it costs money 303 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: to build it on an app. So the first phase 304 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: was to get people in there to create their profile. 305 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: They create their profile, they can choose how what kind 306 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: of connection they want to have, if they want to friendship, 307 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: social networking, they want to professional engagement, they can put 308 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: that there as well. You put where you live. You know, 309 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: there's even a place for you to say if you're 310 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: just an HPC supporter, HBC supporter. So everybody can put 311 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: in what they're looking for and what basically describes them. 312 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: And in addition to that, you have a chat feature, 313 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: so you can chat with the people that you make 314 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: connections with. Even with the chat feature, you can filter, 315 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: Like let's say you have fifty friends and you're like, no, what, 316 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: I just want to know who all is going to 317 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: be in Indianapolis this weekend? Who's from Indianapolis? So I'll 318 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: filter everybody that's from Indianapolis. You can filter people that 319 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: you know and then so right now, that's the most 320 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: engaging part. People can engage with each other. And then 321 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: through having the different events and job listings and job postings, 322 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: you know, that's keeping it fresh for them. So I 323 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: try to make sure it's fresh. We are going to 324 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: be adding two different phases to that. So the next 325 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: phase is going to be very similar to what you 326 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 4: can do on Facebook. You're gonna be able to say, 327 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 4: you know, basically, what is how's your day or what 328 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: are you thinking. You're gonna be able to actually post something. 329 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: You're gonna be able to if you want to post 330 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: your own events or what's happening, so it's not just 331 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: me or my future staff. You can post an event 332 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 4: or something that you have going on as well, and 333 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: I'll prove it. You can post it inside the app, 334 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: you can add video and all of that. Additionally, we're 335 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 4: gonna be adding forms, so there might be some some 336 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: forms that are questions on our mind, like hey, what 337 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: did you guys think of the Super Bowl? Do you 338 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: like Usher's performance? You know, you can actually add forms, 339 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: So we're gonna make it to the point where it 340 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: is very I would say, similar to Facebook in terms 341 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 4: of being able to interact a lot more. But right 342 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: now it's just the first stage of getting a profile created. 343 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: You're gonna be able to look at all the different 344 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: people that are in there. You can request to be 345 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: friends and connect with them, you can filter, and you 346 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: can chat with them. And so that's how we got it. 347 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: We got to keep it first. That's why I'm continuously 348 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: trying to add different functionality quicker quickly so that it 349 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: can be exactly where I wanted to be. 350 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: Wow, I guess I got a quick text, you know, 351 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: or someone asked me, what is Divine nine. I'm a 352 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: member of megasci Fhi fraternity, and so are you a 353 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 3: remember ariority Kimberly. 354 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: Uh No, but my parents are okay cool. 355 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: Delta Sigma, Theta Alpha, Kappa Alpha, Omega Sci Fi CAPA Alpha, PSI, 356 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: Alphai Alpha. Those are organizations black organizations that are a 357 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: member of the Divine Divine nine. So I wanted to 358 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: make sure. Sometimes we get to talking and just looped 359 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 3: into our own conversation, and a lot of people enjoying 360 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: the show don't know what we're talking about. So I 361 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: wanted to take time to really you know, put the 362 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: word out about you know, it's an organization. Omega sci 363 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: Fi changed my life, you know, because of the fact 364 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: it put me in a position. It gave me a 365 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: group of young men that had the same similar thought 366 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: and focused me. And I was wandering around in college 367 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: and I four and a half years I didn't. I 368 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: graduated in seventy years. So four and a half years 369 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 3: I was wandering around. I pledged in two and a 370 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: half years. I graduated because I got focused. So I 371 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: look at these things that you're bringing people in that 372 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: can help people become focused and help people see the 373 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: light in this case socially, academically and professionally. That's important. 374 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 3: But what I noted the most is this is a 375 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: pretty complicated app that you are developing. How did you 376 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: start with the idea? And a lot of people had 377 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: to tell you, girl, you've lost your mind. 378 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: Oh man, listen. A lot of people were like, well, 379 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: first I thought I lost my mind. I was like, 380 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: first of all, how much is it going to cost? 381 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: I don't have fifty thousand dollars to start a to 382 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: have Where am I get that from? But it was 383 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: for me. I am very spiritual and I have a 384 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: very great relationship with God, and God gave me that 385 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: idea and he was like, girl, you have been wanting 386 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: to I'm very entrepreneurial spirit. I've had a podcast, a 387 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: video podcast, I have my own show, I've written two books. 388 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: Like so, I'm always trying to up with something and 389 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: so I wanted to come up with something that really 390 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: tackled an issue that can make money in my sleep. 391 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: And so when this idea came about through the conversation, 392 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 4: I was like, forget it. I can't do this, and 393 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 4: God was like, what are you talking about, Yes you can, 394 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: And so immediately I did benchmarking. I did research. So 395 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: I looked at Facebook, I looked at dating apps because 396 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 4: I kind of wanted that swipe feature, but not really 397 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: a swhite feature. We had like a skipped feature, a 398 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: slight feature. So I looked at the different apps that 399 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: were very similar to what I wanted to do and 400 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 4: kind of said, okay, if LinkedIn Facebook, Instagram, Twitter all 401 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: came together, what would it look like? And so that's 402 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 4: what I came up with. So I came up with 403 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: a pitch to the app development team and they really 404 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: loved it. One of the reasons why they loved the 405 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: idea because they said, it's not just like a dating app, 406 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 4: it's more to it than that. And so from there, 407 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: I just kept kept coming up with ideas and how 408 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: I wanted it to be designed, and they made it happen. 409 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: And yeah, it took it took some money, but I'm 410 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: very glad that I took the risk. And the other 411 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: thing is, you know, this is money making conversations. You 412 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 4: got to give yourself time and give yourself grace. It's 413 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 4: not going to happen overnight. The other thing is the 414 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: adoption rate might be slow at first because people aren't sure, 415 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: like I don't know. And when it first launched, Oh, 416 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: we had some glitches, which is technology, right, and you 417 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: have to work through the glitches. I mean, because I 418 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: didn't have a support team, I have to handle like, hey, 419 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: well let me call you, let me show you how 420 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: to work this. Okay, you know, I'm handling all of that. 421 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, we got all 422 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 4: the glitches done and so now we're on the next 423 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: level and we just want to keep making it better 424 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 4: because again there's somebody else out there that's probably on 425 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: my tail, like, okay, I can do it, and I 426 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: can do it even better, and that's time because there's 427 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: enough out there for everyone. You have McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger Kam, 428 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: they all got hamburgers, but everybody's different, so there's enough 429 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 4: out there. So that's why you have to stay on 430 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: top of things, and you have to be fresh, and 431 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 4: you have to ask them, Okay, what else do you 432 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: want to see in this app? And that's why I 433 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: asked those questions, and that's why I'm making some additional 434 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 4: functionality improvements. 435 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: Cool, you know? 436 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: Okay, Now you have Android that's the number one platform 437 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: out there, and then you have an Apple or is 438 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: the Apple available on those platforms? 439 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: Yes? It is. 440 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: Now what did it get? Did you put it on 441 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: Apple first or Android first? Or you launched them simultaneously? 442 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: They did it simultaneously. 443 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: Awesome? 444 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: Now now, and the whole process of that, what was 445 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: the one glitch that really made you mad that you said, 446 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: why does this keep messing up? That you eventually got fixed, 447 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: of course, but you didn't see it happening because when 448 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: you lay out these great plans, you know, you think 449 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: they're just going to happen correctly, but you overcame. Because 450 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: I want people to hear these things. Not not be 451 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: frustrated by the process. Not let a glitch or something 452 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: that didn't go according to plan to run you down 453 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: the lane. 454 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: I quit. 455 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 3: This is not ever going to work because I know 456 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: you had those moments, you know, and who do you 457 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: turn to when you have those moments? 458 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: Kimberly, So I would say, there are a couple of 459 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: glitches that were frustrating. The biggest one was the filtering option, 460 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: because that was one of the main things with it 461 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: was filtering. Like I would filter and I wouldn't get 462 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 4: back what I filtered. I didn't understand it. And so 463 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: luckily the app company actually is in Atlanta, So like 464 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: I would write down all of the different glitches that 465 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: I would found, I would do research, I would try 466 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: to figure out, and then I would go into the 467 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: office and sit down with the actual developers and we 468 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: would go through step by step and we'd work it out. 469 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: And so yeah, as there were times where I'm like 470 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: I paid this amount of money, like this should be working, 471 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: Like I don't understand, like you've had you know, but 472 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: you can't get mad because it's technology, and it's new 473 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: technology and so meaning new technology to the system. So 474 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: you have to give it time, but you got to 475 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 4: stay on it. They there really were, you know, really 476 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: kind of like impressed with me, because they're like, do 477 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: you know how mean people like that we've built apps 478 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 4: for that don't come in and sit down with us, 479 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: or either they just let like a whole year go 480 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 4: by and they don't make any updates. They don't even 481 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: think about it. And I'm like, well, that's not gonna 482 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: be me because I put my blood, sweat and tears 483 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: in this and money, and so I'm gonna see it through. 484 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: And so when I would get frustrated, I remember calling 485 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: my mom like I just don't understand what's happening, you know, 486 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: and she was like, tell me about different inventors and 487 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 4: people that it didn't take. You know, it took more 488 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: than one time for things to happen. You have to 489 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: give it time. And really this just helps me tell 490 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: the story. It's part of my testimony. And so you know, 491 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: I know that God gave me this, and I know 492 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: he didn't say, Okay, I'm gonna give you this and 493 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: it's gonna be smooth sailing. He gave it to me. 494 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: But everything's worked the way it's supposed to work, but 495 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 4: it hasn't always been smooth, but it doesn't mean it's 496 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: not gonna work. Like right now, I think my first 497 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 4: payment because when you go into the app, it's only 498 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 4: it's free for thirty days, and then it's a dollar 499 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: ninety nine every month, and then of course when you 500 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: get paid, it's like a month behind. So I here, 501 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: I got my first payment of like ten dollars the 502 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: other day, and I started laughing, but I also was like, 503 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: you know what, that's okay because today it's ten dollars. 504 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: Tomorrow it's gonna be you know, one hundred, and it's 505 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 4: gonna be one thousand, it's gonna be ten thousand, and 506 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: so you just have to laugh at that, but also 507 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: understand that it's coming right, and if it wasn't supposed 508 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: to happen, it wouldn't happen. 509 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate the honesty because a lot of people 510 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: don't understand that. You know, people start businesses and they 511 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 3: think that I'm opening this doughnut shop and they think 512 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: there's going to be a line of people out the door, 513 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: and it's not always the case. I remember when I 514 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: opened my comedy club. I opened it and it was 515 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: like fifteen people in the audience. 516 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: And I had to. 517 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: I had to, and I rank commercials on the radio. 518 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: I put out flyers, drop all the local barbershops, fifteen 519 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: people on opening night. And then I realized that this 520 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 3: is a process, a marketing process. I gotta stay at it, 521 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: I gotta believe it. And I started creating different plans 522 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 3: of action, and I started creating specialty nights. 523 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about. That's what I had to do. 524 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: You know. 525 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: I started creating an amateur night on Thursday, which became 526 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 3: the most popular night in my comedy club. And so 527 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: when I let when I allow individuals like you, Kimber 528 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: to come on my show and honestly talk to people. 529 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: You know, we all want to be millionaires, we all 530 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: want to be Elon Musk. But Elon Musk had some 531 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 3: rough times getting started too. That electric car didn't just 532 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: jump off the page. There was States didn't want his 533 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: electric cars. They want Texas name one of them. See, 534 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: they're never have an electric car in the state of Texas. 535 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: Now they got more electric cars than anybody. Because of 536 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: the fact that times change, and so times changing people 537 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 3: people will have to deal with the changes, and so 538 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: you're dealing with a community now, and we're talking about 539 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: HPCU community and tapping into the mobility the apps that 540 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: are popular and people could click of a button. 541 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: You can just tap into the HPCU community. That's awesome. 542 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, thank you. 543 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: Cool kimber Las. We to wrap up the call. 544 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: Anyway we can reach you or any other than going 545 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: to the Android and the Apple formats. 546 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: We're good. 547 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go to I have a website, it's 548 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: hpcsocial dot Next. You can also follow me on Instagram, 549 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: the real HBC Social and then you can also follow 550 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: me on Instagram. I think Kim Kimberly Kiss or Kim 551 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: kim be Kiss, but really go to the real. 552 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: You're about to confuse me. You're about to confuse me 553 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: HPCU Social mobile app Kimberly Kissinger. Hey, thank you for 554 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: coming on Money Making Conversation master Class. I appreciate you. 555 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. 556 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Where's a financial day? Don't go nowhere? 557 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 3: We have your best financial life, save smart now for 558 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: the future you want. 559 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: Her name is Ann Lester. Don't go nowhere. 560 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: She has a lot to say to young people and 561 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: people like me that we can steal save money and 562 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: live a great life. And Lester is coming right up. 563 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 5: Don't go nowhere, We'll be right back with more money 564 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 5: making conversations. 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