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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the strated beer of normalcy. Welcome to a Wednesday

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Speaker 1: Ready to move on to New York the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: We're onto the Jets. The next opponent coming up for y'all,

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Speaker 1: get ready for this, right boy. So the sky has

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Speaker 1: quintessential trap game, right. You got the Patriots on the

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Speaker 1: McDermott can't partake in that kind of talk. He's got

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Speaker 1: So he's like, every team's the same, we treat him

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Speaker 1: And without any further ado, we're going to head out

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Speaker 1: now been released from the Buffalo Bills as of just

428
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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, I was out here trying to

429
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: see who was out at practice today. Didn't see a

430
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain, so that news came out quite quickly once

431
00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: practice started. Yeah, any other anomaly is about the offensive line.

432
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: Ford about Cody Ford, whereas he playing left guard. Because

433
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: John Feliciano played left guard for play right guard for

434
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: sixteen games last week, that might have been the precursor

435
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: for Ford moving to left guard. Yeah, definitely, Cody Ford

436
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: is not out here today. I don't see a Cody Ford.

437
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: He was someone who came out of that game with

438
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: a knee injury and has been said that he will

439
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: be week to week. So he is the one offensive

440
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: lineman that is still on the team that is missing

441
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: from practice today. And they're just going through a light

442
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: practice today. Guys, they're just in T shirts and pants.

443
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, just two games, two days removed from the game,

444
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: that's not surprising, you know. I think that you look

445
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: at the offensive line, Maddie, and winning at the line

446
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: of scrimmage was a problem on Monday. I know a

447
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: lot of people believe that John Feliciano is the heart

448
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: and soul of that offensive line. Also provides a little

449
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: bit of nasty, a little bit of attitude of for

450
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: that group. Have any of the players in recent weeks

451
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: kind of commented on John knowing that he's been kind

452
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: of worked into practice here and there the last couple

453
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: of weeks. I mean, I think this team is definitely

454
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: excited to get John ful Fillyciano back, at least on

455
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: the practice field right now before he comes off ir

456
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: He's been explained by several teammates as somebody who kind

457
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: of brings a type of personality, some soul to this

458
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think Josh Allen has described him in

459
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: several different ways, so he's well liked by his teammates.

460
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what they need on this offensive line to

461
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: bring some of that juice, bring some of that anger

462
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 1: back to the offensive line, and John Fuliciano could bring that.

463
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely a personality on that offensive line,

464
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: and if you get someone like him back, that's another

465
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: piece to the puzzle that was missing to start the season.

466
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: Maybe you get a little bit more chemistry back. Since

467
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: they have been rotating some newer faces through that offensive line,

468
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: we've really haven't seen the run game get alive yet

469
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: through seven six weeks. Now, heading into seven weeks of play,

470
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Devin Singletary is averaging three point eight yards

471
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: per carry. I know Zach Moss has missed a couple games,

472
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: but he's averaging under three yards per carry. So John

473
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: Feliciano could possibly be the answer for the run game

474
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: and the offensive line going forward here. Yeah, coach mentioned

475
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: that Matt Milana would be limited today. He was limited

476
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: last week but ended up not playing. You know, you

477
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: have Tyrell Dotson who was put in the week to

478
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: week injury bucket with a hamstring injury, and we know

479
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Cam Lewis was also put in the week to week

480
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: bucket with a wrist injury. So any sign of any

481
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: of those players besides Milana, who we know is going

482
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: to be out here in limited fashion today, Yeah, cam

483
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: Lewis is out here. He does have quite a big

484
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: rap on his wrist. He is out here, not in

485
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: a red T shirt or anything like that. Again, this

486
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: is more of a walk through practice, I believe, So

487
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: nobody's in shelves or pads or anything like that. But

488
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: cam Lewis was out here today. Tyrell Dodson also out

489
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: here today. So that's a good sign for those two

490
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: players as they'll be needed if someone like Milano can't

491
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: go again for this upcoming game. What about the tight

492
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: end group in Dawson Knox. Dawson Knox, I have not

493
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: seen him out here yet today. He wasn't out here

494
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: for stretch or anything like that. So those are the

495
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: two guys who who I really haven't seen, I mean

496
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: three total. Cody Ford, John Brown and Dawson Knox are

497
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: a couple of players who I have not seen out

498
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: here yet today. Usually some of the guys would come

499
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: out here during stretch just interact with the team, get

500
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: a stretch in, and then head back into the fieldhouse

501
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: to rehab and whatnot. But those three haven't been out

502
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: here yet today. All right, Maddie, do your best to

503
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: stay dry out there and keep us posted if anything

504
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: else changes. We appreciate the update as always, Thanks for

505
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: your time. Yep, no problem, guys. All right, that's Maddie

506
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: Lab giving us the update from the Bills practice field.

507
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: So basically, Cody four, John Brown, Dawson Knox not even

508
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: on site at the practice field participating today, and it

509
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: is jog through of sorts. You're only two days removed

510
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: from the game. They'll have their hardest practice presumably tomorrow,

511
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: where they you know, really put the game plan in

512
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: and earnest and rep it to a certain degree or

513
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, well, actually you gotta start gearing

514
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: back down by Friday, so tomorrow's the day. Today, tomorrow's

515
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: the day. Today is a big usual on a normal day,

516
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: whether you don't have to play on Monday night, it's

517
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: a big installed day. On Wednesday, Tuesday, the coaches kind

518
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: of hunkered down and they go into their film rooms

519
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: and they meet all day to come up with the

520
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: game plan or poleast finalize the game plan that they've

521
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: been working on over the weekend getting started on the jets,

522
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: and then they present it to the players Wednesday morning

523
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: and they get out and they run through it on

524
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: first and second downs. Then Thursday tomorrow they like to

525
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: open it up because it's middle of the week. They

526
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: get the guys out running. It's all the install of

527
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: third down packages and long packages and all the h

528
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: and also some in earnest some run plays. All of

529
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: that stuff. They get them out and they run hard

530
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: on Thursdays usually, and then they wind it down Friday

531
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: with short yardage, goal line and some walk through stuff

532
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: like that. So today, but because it was on Monday,

533
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: the game might be as big as an important install day,

534
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: just without the physical activity and the and the full

535
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: go nature of it. So I this is uh, it's

536
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: not unusual, but they you know they want They do

537
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: their best. This coaching staff, they do their best to

538
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: get these guys outside. Yeah, for whatever reason, the surface whatever.

539
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: They do not like practicing on the field house in

540
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: the field right. The only time they'll practice on the

541
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: stadium turf is usually on the shorter Friday practice when

542
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: they have a home game, just to get used to

543
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: the surface again. Rum But yeah, beyond that, coaches on

544
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: grass as much as possible, come wind, rain, snow, sleet.

545
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: He tries to have them out there as much as possible.

546
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: I think he also believes it's the grass surface is

547
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: easier on the joints, So I think that's part of

548
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: it too, But that's always true. But let's discuss this.

549
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain no longer on this Bill's roster, and I

550
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of Bills fans probably scratching their

551
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: head saying, what the heck's going on here? They just

552
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: signed this guy in the off season, resigned him to

553
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: a three year, fifteen million dollar deal, and he very

554
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: quickly after about a game and a half, lost his

555
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: starting spot at left guard. They brought Brian Winters in

556
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: at right guard, flipped Cody Ford over to left guard,

557
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: and They've been going that way ever since until at

558
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: least Cody Ford got hurt. And now with Cody Ford

559
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: injured and week to week, I think a lot of

560
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: people were thinking, Okay, well, this is the time for

561
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain to step back into the starting lineup since

562
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: that was a position demanded for all sixteen games last season.

563
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: It went the complete opposite direction. He was outright released now.

564
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: He did miss the last two games with what was

565
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: described as foots ornis. He was a late scratch before

566
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: the Titans game, and then he was inactive for this

567
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: past week's game and was listed as questionable on the

568
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: injury report. This is also a four and a half

569
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit, which isn't gigantic, but the guy's

570
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: in the first year of a three year deal. I

571
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: think we have to wonder this is probably twofold Steve

572
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: number one. I don't think the Bills at the beginning

573
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: of the season thought they could acquire regard the caliber

574
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: of Brian Winters, who they clearly believe is an upgrade

575
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: because he moved into the starting lineup rather quickly after

576
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: signing after camp had already started. Yeah, and then on

577
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 1: top of that, the timetable for John Feliciano's return seems

578
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: to be imminent because the way it works is when

579
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: you go on IR, once you start practicing, it kicks

580
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: in a twenty one day window in which to practice

581
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: to get back up to speed, and in that twenty

582
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: one day window, the team has to make a decision

583
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: as to whether to active, put you on the active right,

584
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 1: or leave you on injured reserve. And I do have

585
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: to check the wording on that because it is different

586
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: this year after that twenty one day window, if you

587
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: decide to leave him on IR, does he stay there

588
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: for six weeks or a longer period of time before

589
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: you can bring him back. I have to go check

590
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: the wording on that. But this would be an indication

591
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: to me, and I know you probably feel the same way,

592
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Steve Feliciano is it's got to be close to a

593
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: return with this kind of a move because the roster

594
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: spot has been created for him now exactly. And the

595
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: only question to me is does he get on the

596
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: field right away? Are they gonna sprinkle him in, give

597
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: him a couple of you know, like they did like

598
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: they were planning on doing with Josh Norman when he

599
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: came off the hamstring. Are they gonna give him a

600
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: series and then let they give him a series with

601
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Brian Winters, give Winners two series, Feliciano one throughout a

602
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: game and then you know see how that goes where

603
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: they get into game shapes or are they gonna throw

604
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: him in or are they just gonna say listen, you're

605
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: you're on the bench until something happens. I don't know,

606
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, I that's to me, just waiting for that

607
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: to be told to us. Well, yeah, already it seems inevitable.

608
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Although neither of us, and nor does anybody else outside

609
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: the walls of the training room, know how well he

610
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: has recovered from the pectoral muscle surgery. I think we

611
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: gauge that it was the eleventh week out of surgery

612
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: this week, and it is viewed as an eight to

613
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: twelve week recovery period, So he's right in that window

614
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: to return. The question is how much they want to

615
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: put on his plate if in fact they do move

616
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: him over to the active roster, where there now is

617
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: an open roster spot. Steve brought up a good point

618
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: as well, why not trade him? I have to believe

619
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: that if these were the plans that were in the

620
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: works to move him off of their roster. I'm confident

621
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: that the pro personnel department beat the bushes around the

622
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: league a little bit to see if anybody was in

623
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: need of a starting caliber guard. I think though, once

624
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: people read the tea leaves and realize that a team

625
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: is going to part with a player like this, they

626
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: usually just wait for that shoe to drop and then

627
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: go attack and try to sign him as a free

628
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: agent rather than giving something up in return. And that's

629
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: probably what it has transpired here eight oh three, five

630
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: fifty one, eight fifty two, five fifty. If you want

631
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: to get on board with us, we go to the

632
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: phones and we go to Brian here in Alabama of

633
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: all places. Brian, what do you have for us, sir? Hey,

634
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: good afternoon, fellows. How are you guys doing. You're doing good? Hey,

635
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: Just just a quick talk and just a question that

636
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: half of you guys about the Bills defense. I know

637
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: last year number of states that the Bills defense was

638
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: a top five defense all last year? Do you guys

639
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: think that the numbers might have lied? And the reason

640
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: why I'm acting that is because if you look at

641
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: the bills opponents last year, majority of the teams that

642
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: they face or first the second year quarterbacks or a

643
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: quarter backs basically over the hill. And when they did

644
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: face solid offensive competition i e. The Philadelphia Eagles, they

645
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: got handled pretty easily. And so I just want the

646
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: guys get you guys a pain to see if do

647
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: you think this Bill's defense has been overrated? And as

648
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: Bills fans have, we've been kind of bowed a little

649
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: bit into thinking that this was an elite defense to

650
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: begin with. Well, I don't think there's any question that

651
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: the schedule is considerably harder this year, not only in

652
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: terms of the opponents. It's a valid point the opposing quarterbacks.

653
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: Last year's schedule was admittedly soft. It was one of

654
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: the easiest schedules in the league in terms of strength

655
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: of schedule. And I know that people that have wanted

656
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: to knock coach McDermott in this team have pointed to

657
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: the Bill's record against teams with records three games over

658
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: five hundred when the Bills faced them, and it's it's

659
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: not a winning record. I mean, facts are facts. What

660
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: does that mean? I don't know. I mean, does it

661
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: mean that the defense isn't good? I don't think so.

662
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: But to be the best, you gotta beat the best.

663
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: They're good, just the elite standpoint that, yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: predicted them to be this year. Right, Well, it's certain

665
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: just getting taste of reality a little bit. Yeah, you can,

666
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: and it's a it's hard to argue with it with

667
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: the results that they've gotten so far. Right, Certainly, last

668
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: year was a different schedule of Bills got off to

669
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: that great start and they were plowing through some easy

670
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: teams when you look at they got to Philly, they

671
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: got to Baltimore. They didn't beat Baltimore, but they played

672
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: them tough. I mean that that was a hard fought game,

673
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: and I thought the defense did a great job of

674
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: neutralizing Lamar Jackson. I mean, I think that's a power

675
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: AFC team. They didn't win the game, but I thought

676
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: the defense for the most part, did its job. I mean,

677
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: let's not forget the Ravens were running over people last year.

678
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Speaker 1: They went fourteen and two and laid waste to really

679
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: good teams. I mean they beat the La Rams on

680
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Monday night in La I mean they wiped the floor

681
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: with those guys. And they came in here in December

682
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Roland and they had to sweat that one out to

683
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Speaker 1: beat the Bills last year, right, So, and I kind

684
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: of I agree with Brownie. I think the Bills defense

685
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: is you know, it's not. It's got a couple of

686
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: really good players, one very good player in Tardavious White.

687
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: They've got really good safeties that play well. But I'll

688
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: say this, aside from those guys, this is a defense

689
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: that I think is better coach than it is full

690
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: of talent. They get these guys to play well, right

691
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: because because because name your playmakers in the front seven, right,

692
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: name some playmates Milano Milano's he's good and he's a

693
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: good defender, but he's not he's not racking up sacks,

694
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: he's not getting interceptions. He got an interception in Week

695
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: one against the Jets. And I mean he's been an

696
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: Ada lineup this year, but more often than not, you'd

697
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Speaker 1: probably name him first in the front Who else in

698
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: the front seven makes more plays than him? I think

699
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: this is a team that gets by being that one eleven.

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00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: Some of the parts, that's some of the parts is better.

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Speaker 1: And I think they're and I know this is probably

702
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Speaker 1: against the grain given what happened on Monday night and

703
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: then last week against the Tennessee Titans. I think they're

704
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: better coordinated than they are rostered m and they're better

705
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: coach than they are talented. Uh. They got a lot

706
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Speaker 1: of guys that work very well together. They're a lot

707
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: of very smart players, a lot of guys who are

708
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: very committed to being good up you know, between their

709
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: ears as well as they are physically. Uh, and they

710
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: do play that they play good defense. And you're right,

711
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: it is a valid point about the ease of their

712
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: schedule last year might have inflated their their rankings a

713
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: little bit. But there's no question there were games last

714
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: year where they played extremely well. Yeah, and they've they've

715
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: played They've played well at times this year, although it's

716
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: been a little bit more inconsistent. But I think this

717
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: is a defense, particularly upfront, that has not this They

718
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: don't have an Aaron Donald, yeah, or or five years ago,

719
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: a JJ Watt or a you know these guys, a T. J. Watt,

720
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: you know Bosa. They don't have any of these guys

721
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Speaker 1: Chris Frank Clark, Right, there's some guys out there. This

722
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: is a team that is not a star studded defense,

723
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Speaker 1: but is a very good team defense. And I think

724
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Speaker 1: that's the kind this what we've seen in the first

725
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: month and a half of the season is kind of

726
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: what that looks like. It's not this team is not

727
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: going to make the eye popping grab that you know,

728
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: these They're not going to have these games where they're

729
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: sacking them nine times. They're not gonna have these games

730
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: where they four six turnovers. But they're gonna right now.

731
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Speaker 1: But they are a team that when they face an offense,

732
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Speaker 1: no matter how how good it is, they always hold

733
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: them below their season average. They're always holding them less

734
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: than what they usually except for the Titans, right. Um,

735
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: So I think that's I think it's a great call

736
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Speaker 1: by Brian. Uh. This is a good defense, but it's

737
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: not a spectacular defense. And that's that's you know, that's

738
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: where this offense has got to, you know, kind of

739
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: spread its wings and carry the way a little. And

740
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: I think that was the point that he was trying

741
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: to make. Did we get lured into this false sense

742
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: that they are an elite defense with their top five

743
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: ranking each of the last two years years third against

744
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: the past, last year, second against the past the year before,

745
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: top ten in sack percentage, I mean, all the numbers said, yes,

746
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: they are a top five defense, But now have they

747
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: been a little uncovered, so to speak, as maybe something

748
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: less than that by these high flying offenses that they've

749
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: had to play this year, maybe some upgrade maybe, and

750
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: the upgraded quarterbacks top to bottom that they faced they've

751
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: had to play, they've played four of the quarterbacks they

752
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: played or really good. We go back to the phones

753
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: to Tim in Tonawanda. Tim, you're on one Bills Live,

754
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Is this kind of wondering if

755
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: you thought that the Bills might have underestimated Jordan pilps

756
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: value and then having a star opt out at the

757
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: same time, whether that has caused more of the problems

758
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: than defense. Yeah, yeah, I think it compounded the problem.

759
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. I think

760
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: they they made a conscious decision and said, look, we'd

761
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: love to have Jordan Phillips back, but we're only going

762
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: to do it at this value, and with thirty one

763
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: other teams competing for his services, we're probably not going

764
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: to get him at that price. So I think they

765
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: resigned themselves to the fact that they were probably gonna

766
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: lose him, and they say, Okay, what are we still

767
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: having the cupboard here. Well, we've got Harrison Phillips coming

768
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: off a major knee surgery, but he was playing really

769
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: well before he got hurt. We're encouraged about where he

770
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: can go with his career. We've got star Latoula Lay

771
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: who's a guy that can stand in there and grind

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00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: for us. And we've got a young up and coming

773
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: penetrating type player who can collapse the pocket despite being

774
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: a little undersized in an Oliver. And then, as you mentioned,

775
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Latulaa opts out in a crazy year here in twenty

776
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: twenty with COVID, And now you're relying on two young

777
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: players who aren't even proven yet along with Vernon Butler,

778
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: who really hasn't played a ton of one technique, has

779
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: actually played more three technique in his time in Carolina.

780
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: And you see the problem that they have now. So

781
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I don't think you can

782
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: fault the Bill's personnel department for that, though. I mean

783
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: what COVID laid at their feet was completely out of

784
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: the realm of anything that could have been expected. I mean,

785
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: they probably didn't even know that Starr would opt out

786
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: until it actually happened, and at that point in time,

787
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,479
Speaker 1: it's like, good luck finding somebody comparable to fill that role.

788
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, it compounded the problem. Tim. I just don't

789
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: think there's anybody to blame but COVID unfortunately. Right. Yeah,

790
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, you're right on the money, brownie for me.

791
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: I they knew Jordan Phillips was a pretty good player,

792
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: but he was also he had a career year last year.

793
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: He had never he hadn't done anything up to that

794
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: point to say that he was going to get nine

795
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: and a half sacks last year, and there's not too

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00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: much reason to think he was going to be able

797
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: to sustain that going forward. Well, and they worry about

798
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: big guys when they get paid big money. There's a

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00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: there's a general concern around the league. Hey, this big guy,

800
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: when he finally gets paid, is he going to still

801
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: play the same way we just saw him playing his

802
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: contract year. And there are some personnel people around the

803
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: league that harbor jen Win concerns for that because there

804
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: have been multiple examples. One right here in Buffalo by

805
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: the name of Marcel Darius. He got all his money

806
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: and his play went south big time. He's a free agent,

807
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: by the way, he is a free agent, So you know,

808
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably all you need to know about

809
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: the concerns that sometimes personnel people harbor if they're not

810
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure that that guy is going to

811
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: be committed to process and give you what you need

812
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: every single week, because when those bigger players get money,

813
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, they slack off and check out a

814
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: little bit. It happens. All right, we have to take

815
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: a break, but when we return, we'll take a couple

816
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Speaker 1: more of your phone calls. Eight oh three, five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Also on the tweet sheet, do you think the Bills

818
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: can still win the AFC East? Pick one of the

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Speaker 1: choices there way in at one Bills Live. Back in

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Speaker 1: a moment here on one Bills Live, presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you the latest

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Speaker 1: news today. Quentin Spain released by the Bills, and we're

824
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: kind of wondering if that roster spot was opened up

825
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: for the impending return of one John Feliciano, who at

826
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: this moment anyway, is still on injured reserve, but has

827
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Speaker 1: been worked into practice a little bit each of the

828
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and they will have to make

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00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: a decision on him and in due time. But the

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00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: breaking news is that Quentin Spain is no longer a

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Speaker 1: member of the Buffalo Bills. A four and a half

832
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit for the Bills. Not that big

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00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: a deal in terms of the finances, but surprising in

834
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: light of the fact that they had just resigned him

835
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: in the off season to a new three year contract

836
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: to bring him back into the fold after he started

837
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: sixteen games at left guard. Whether there was writing on

838
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: the wall, I think can be debated. He obviously lost

839
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: his starting spot to Cody four as Brian Winners came

840
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: into the line of a right guard and move forward

841
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: to left guard, and it hasn't changed since Week two

842
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: and then he's been inactive with some foot soreness each

843
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: of the last two weeks. But I'm sure that later

844
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: in the week coach McDermott, when he's next available to

845
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: the media on Friday, will be asked about it, and

846
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: maybe some of the offensive players will be asked about

847
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: it in media availability later this afternoon. Steve, let's go

848
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: back to the phone, try to get another couple of

849
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Speaker 1: people in here before we get to the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour. And we will lead off with Tom and

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Speaker 1: West Seneca. That's Tom. What do you have for us?

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Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live, Chris Steve, thanks for having me.

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00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it all. At the beginning of the season,

854
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Speaker 1: we all realize that we're not going to go undefeaters.

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Speaker 1: There's no team in the NFL that's going to be undefeaters,

856
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: so you have to expect losses. We lost. Yes, A

857
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Speaker 1: gentleman commented last week that losing Bill's character, Sure it does.

858
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Speaker 1: I'd rather win. But anyways, that being said, the things

859
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Speaker 1: that stood out in the game to me is that

860
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Speaker 1: the most important statistic, of course, is what the score

861
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Speaker 1: is at the end of the game. If you have

862
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Speaker 1: more points, you win the game. We know this, but

863
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Speaker 1: we lost. But we were in this game until the

864
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Speaker 1: last quarter. But stood out to me as big mistakes,

865
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Speaker 1: of course, was a missfield goal by Bass and then

866
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Speaker 1: on the last drive of Kansas City, this is totally

867
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: uncalled for. Was two back to back personal fouls against

868
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: the Bills. They know who they are. I'm sure coach

869
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: McDermott has had the conversation with the two gentlemen. There's

870
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Speaker 1: no sense mentioning names but that's uncalled for it. Those

871
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: were two blatant personal fouls and that that hurt us

872
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: bad in Kansas City wanted to score. I'm behind my

873
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills wouldn't lose right to the bitter end. But

874
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: of course I must be critical criticize sometimes. Thank you guys,

875
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: have a great evening. Okay, thanks, all right, thanks Tom.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where you want to go with that,

877
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, those two mistakes were I think they were

878
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: indicative of the frustration of the Bill's defense is going through.

879
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: And you know what, I yeah, yeah, there were penalties.

880
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: They weren't vicious and ugly, and you know, I was like, yeah,

881
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: they're mistakes. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. I mean the game's done,

882
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: it's dead and buried. I think the team's flushed it.

883
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: They're onto the install for the Jets game, which, incidentally,

884
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Speaker 1: there is an update. Sam Donald will practice on a

885
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: limited basis for the Jets today. He hasn't played since

886
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Speaker 1: he was injured in the Thursday Night game a couple

887
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and it's been Joe Flacco at quarterback.

888
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: So I believe Adam Gas just had his press conference

889
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: and he said Sam Darnald will be practicing in a

890
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: limited capacity today, so we'll get more on that and

891
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Speaker 1: more on the Jets developments here now and six on

892
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Speaker 1: the season from their senior reporter for New York Jets

893
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Speaker 1: dot Com. That's Eric Allen. He'll join us in about

894
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: an hour's time to give us an update on where

895
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: that team stands. If the sky is falling inside the

896
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Speaker 1: walls at the Jets facility as much as it is

897
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Speaker 1: in the newspapers and the tabloids and the fan base

898
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Speaker 1: down there in the Tri state area. But we do

899
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Speaker 1: have to take a break when we return more of

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00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: your phone calls, and we'll also get in some comments

901
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Speaker 1: from coach Fraser and coach Dable on the state of

902
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Speaker 1: their respective sides of the ball coming off two straight losses.

903
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Speaker 1: All of that coming your way here on one Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalota Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hello Bills Radio Network Sports Date. Bills have released veteran

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Speaker 1: guard Quentin's Spain, the news coming down less than an

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Speaker 1: hour of Ghosts Baine first announcing the news on his

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00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: Twitter account before the team confirmed the transaction a short

909
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Speaker 1: time later. Spain was in year one of a three

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00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: year contract that he signed with the club this past

911
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Speaker 1: off season on the heels of starting sixteen straight games

912
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Speaker 1: at left guard for Buffalo in twenty nineteen. The Bills

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Speaker 1: will incur a four and a half million dollars cap

914
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Speaker 1: hit for the release. The open roster spot has led

915
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Speaker 1: to speculation that the team could be ready to pull

916
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Speaker 1: John Feliciano off injured reserve. Bill's injury updates from the

917
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Speaker 1: practice field. John Brown, Cody Ford, and Dawson Knotts Knox

918
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Speaker 1: not participating or seen on the practice field today. Matt Malano,

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Speaker 1: a limited participant according to coach McDermott. Cam lewis also

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Speaker 1: seen on the practice field today despite a risk injury.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a participation status on all those players later

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Speaker 1: this afternoon when the injury report is released. Sam Darnold's

923
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Speaker 1: still dealing with a non throwing shoulder injury suffered a

924
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago on Thursday Night Football, but reporters

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Speaker 1: out of New York are saying Darnold will practice today

926
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Speaker 1: on a limited basis. Many, however, still expect Joe Flacco

927
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Speaker 1: to get another start when the Bills head to the

928
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Speaker 1: Metalands to face the Jets on Sunday. The Miami Dolphins

929
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Speaker 1: officially announced that number five overall pick to A Tongo Violo,

930
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: will replace Ryan Fitzpatrick as the team starting quarterback when

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins come off thereby in Week eight to face

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Speaker 1: the La Rams. The Washington Football team still might be

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Speaker 1: going by its placeholder name at this time next year.

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Speaker 1: Quote there's a pretty good chance we will be the

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Speaker 1: Washington football team next season, said team president Jason Wright

936
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Speaker 1: in a Washington television interview on Tuesday. The team retired

937
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Speaker 1: their former name that they had used for eighty seven

938
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Speaker 1: years on July thirteenth, after launching a thorough review ten

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Speaker 1: days earlier. The temporary name was announced July twenty, third

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Speaker 1: Game one of the World Series. Last night, Clayton Kershaw

941
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: retired seventeen of the final eighteen batters he faced, leading

942
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers to an eighth three game one victory over

943
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Speaker 1: the Raise. That is your sports update Chris Brown Steve

944
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Speaker 1: Tasker with you our number two of a Wednesday edition

945
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Speaker 1: of One Bills Live. And the news of the day

946
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Speaker 1: is Quentin Spain is no longer a Buffalo Bill released

947
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: by the club. Last hour, it was confirmed by the

948
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Speaker 1: team and Quentin Spain had lost his starting job on

949
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. I think was largely considered a steady

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Speaker 1: player for this team last year at the very least,

951
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Speaker 1: and now not even on this roster, which which may

952
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Speaker 1: have been due to the fact that they saw Brian

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Speaker 1: Winters as a viable asset to add to this roster

954
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Speaker 1: after he was released by the Jets. And then we

955
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Speaker 1: saw the roster change in the starting lineup with Cody

956
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Speaker 1: Ford going to left guard, Steve and Brian Winners moving

957
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Speaker 1: into the starting lineup at right guard and Spain off

958
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Speaker 1: the field. And also in the background, John Feliciano getting healthier,

959
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Speaker 1: and so you've got those three guys standing there being

960
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Speaker 1: able to ready to play guard, and Quentin Spain is

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Speaker 1: the last guy there. So they're not gonna they're not

962
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Speaker 1: gonna keep four guards on their roster. Uh. And they've

963
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Speaker 1: also got, you know, with Ryan Bates, Ryan Bates, Butker

964
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Speaker 1: and players Ninsecki as the swing tackle. So you know,

965
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: we got you know, they got they activate nine guys

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Speaker 1: on game day and Quentin Spain got squeezed out of that.

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00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: I think it's that simple. Yeah. I just think it's

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00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: surprising for fans because they, you know, he just resigned

969
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: this past offseason after having a pretty good year in

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00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen for this club, and he didn't give up

971
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: a sack last year and he started all sixteen games.

972
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: That's and that's for some fans are going, what are

973
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: you doing that? You know, but this is a coaching staff,

974
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: this is a what have you done for? You earn

975
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: it every day and certainly there are guys who have

976
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Speaker 1: earned enough to get you know, maybe maybe you do

977
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Speaker 1: earn a little slack, or you earn whatever slack you get.

978
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: But uh, clearly that was a precipitous fall from grace.

979
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell the guy won the iron Man

980
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: competition that this team has in the off season, which

981
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Speaker 1: basically involves being the most ardent participant in the offseason

982
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: conditioning program. He won that. Outright, They think about this

983
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: and it's always sad. And I'm sure Quentin Spain had

984
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: a great time here in Buffalo and they and they

985
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: appreciated him, and it's not like they dislike him as

986
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: a person, but they are they're moving on. They're moving on.

987
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: And here's this is what I see. Remember when they

988
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: said they told Jordan Phillips said, oh, you can go

989
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: out and check them if you want give us a

990
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: chance to match the offers or whatever. He goes out

991
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: and gets an eleven million dollars a year deal from

992
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: this Arizona said that's we can't do it. They said great.

993
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: He said, fine, thank you, I appreciate it, goodbye. Quentin

994
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: Spain did that, and the Bills said, this is our offer.

995
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be on you know that kind offer.

996
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: And he said, I'm taking it because he liked it here. Yeah,

997
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: he said, I want to that. That's two guys who

998
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: made the decision that we're in almost identical situations, made

999
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: very different to made different decisions. I think Quentin Spain

1000
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: felt like and probably could have gotten more money had

1001
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: he gone other places than the Buffalo Bills. Maybe, I

1002
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Certainly an article I read hinted at that,

1003
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Speaker 1: but Quentin Spain said, no, I goes this is my spot.

1004
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: I want to be here, and and Loren Behold, he

1005
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: comes back and can't hang onto that spot. So he

1006
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: the Bills had him at a number. He said, I'll

1007
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: take that number, and they're here. But it didn't last long.

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Speaker 1: Back to the phones at eight O three five fifty.

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Speaker 1: We lead off this segment with Tom in spencer Port, Tom,

1010
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: What do you have for us? Welcome to the one

1011
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Hey bodies are going today, good stuff, good,

1012
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: thank you. I just want to make an observation or

1013
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: a point about our defense. I mean, it's been a

1014
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: long time since I've played ball, but one thing that

1015
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: hasn't changed in defense is instilling your will against the

1016
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: team you're playing against, you know, punching him in the nose,

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Speaker 1: making the bleed and making them respect you. When I

1018
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: watched the Bill I see too much backpedaling at the

1019
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: very snap of the ball, so they're not staying in

1020
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: their place and you know, reading and reacting, they're already backpedaling,

1021
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: already given up turf. And you could have the best

1022
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: eleven defenders in the league playing for you, and if

1023
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: you're just backing up right away, you're already given space.

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00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: You know. I watch I watched the Safeties, which is

1025
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: what I played as a young guy, and they're fifteen

1026
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: yards off the ball and the second hand ball is snapped,

1027
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: they're backpedaling already. So there are last week, Yeah, they were.

1028
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: They were in this last game for sure. Yeah, And

1029
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: they have been and they were the game before too.

1030
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: And you know, if you're going to backpedal, you're already

1031
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: given up three, four or five yards or in the

1032
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: safe the free safeties, you know you're giving up fifteen

1033
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: twenty yards. And that's why all these quarterbacks are finding,

1034
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, room in the middle, wide open spaces. You know,

1035
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: you at least need to hold your ground for when

1036
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: the ball is snapped, read and react and then golf.

1037
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to hang up. Love listening to

1038
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: you guys, love to hear your opinion on this. Yeah, sure, Steve,

1039
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: that was that was largely what the game plan was

1040
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: this past week. Keep it all in front of them,

1041
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: don't get people running behind you for forty yard touchdowns. Right, Yeah,

1042
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Speaker 1: And I get it, Tom, I get what you're seeing.

1043
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: And this defense, particularly after game like Kansas City when

1044
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: they gave up so many rushing yards, they look soft,

1045
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, they look they look like they can't hold

1046
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage. And you and then

1047
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: you point to the safeties. Listen, in this league, the

1048
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: safeties playoff, and if they're not playing off, they're turning

1049
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: and running from the line of scrimmage. Forget about backpedaling,

1050
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: because the speed and at this level is so great nowadays,

1051
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: You've got to get a deep head start on these

1052
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: guys to keep the lid on that defense on the

1053
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: big plays. That's what teams have done to the Bills,

1054
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: and that's what the Bills do to other teams. If

1055
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: you if you wait too long to turn your hips

1056
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: and run or even to backpedal, you're going from a

1057
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: standing start facing the wrong direction in a race with

1058
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: a guy that runs a four to two or a

1059
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: four to three or even a four to four forty,

1060
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: and you're beaten. Period. So safety's in the NFL unless

1061
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: they're stemming into another coverage. If they've got deep responsibilities

1062
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: at the snap of the ball, yeah, they're bailing, and

1063
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Speaker 1: I mean bailing hard away from the line of scrimmage.

1064
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Speaker 1: So I get what you're saying, though it's easy to

1065
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: and I get it too. We had a conversation yesterday

1066
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: about how this Bill's defense looks. They make this, They

1067
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: make teams go the long way and put together these big,

1068
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: long drives, and certainly the Chiefs are a team on

1069
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: offense is capable of doing that. And I think that

1070
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: was the entire key to the whole game on Monday afternoon,

1071
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: was that the Bills could not get the Chiefs off

1072
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: the field. You look at the Chiefs on third down,

1073
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were sixty conversion. Yeah, I mean they were

1074
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: they were completing a really good person and I don't

1075
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: know how many first downs they got on second down,

1076
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: but it was a lot. So they couldn't get them

1077
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: off the field. And to me, uh, yeah, the Yeah,

1078
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were nine of fourteen third down conversions. That's

1079
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: a big number. So that was the problem with Monday's game,

1080
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: and certainly the same kind of issues against Kansas against

1081
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee with Derrick Henry. You gotta get them off the field.

1082
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: You can bend, but don't break. You can keep a

1083
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: lid on the defense, but unless you can And we've

1084
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: talked about this too, and I've been thinking about this,

1085
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: I've been hearing people debate this all the time. Bran

1086
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: We said, great defenses can get pressure fast on the

1087
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: passer with four guys. Well, it also goes to it

1088
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: also is part of the same argument that the fewer

1089
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: guys it takes to stop the run, the better you're

1090
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna be on defense because you don't have to commit

1091
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: that many assets and they can't play action you to death.

1092
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna start and people said, why don't

1093
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: they throw eight in the box? Nine in the box.

1094
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: It's it's the same poison, you know, It's just a

1095
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: quicker way to drink it. Yeah, if you're gonna make

1096
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: them go nineteen plays or fifteen plays or thirteen plays

1097
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: and go seventy five yards every time, it's still more

1098
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: difficult for an offense to do that than given them

1099
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: to be. They have to execute for thirteen plays instead

1100
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: of five. Right, that's right, and that's it's that simple,

1101
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: And that's the philosophy that Sean McDermott has had since

1102
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: he's been here, and Leslie Frasier has bought into it

1103
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: and gotten that done as well. Certainly, when you get

1104
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: against good teams, they're able to do that more often.

1105
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: But at some point your defense has got to do

1106
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: better than nine or fourteen on third down, and you

1107
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: got to force them into more than fourteen third downs. Yea,

1108
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones to Jesse and Olean. Jesse,

1109
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: you're on one bills Live. Thanks for joining us. What

1110
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: do you have? Hey, guys, thanks for having me. Um.

1111
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I just got a quick question about the trade deadline

1112
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: with that coming up. Pretty soon. What side of the

1113
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: ball do you think we should attack, if anyone, and

1114
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: what specific players do you think defense? If you're in

1115
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: the market for something, it's probably defense. And I think

1116
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: Steve's in agreement with me on this one. I think

1117
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: you probably want to get a space eat or upfront

1118
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: if you can find one for a reasonable price. Or

1119
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: somebody's been chiming about how the Bills should trade for

1120
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: the Giants interior guy. And I can't remember his name,

1121
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: but there's a defensive tackle for the for the New

1122
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: York Giants. Is that Jonathan Hankins something like that. I'm

1123
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: not sure if that's the name, I'll find it for you.

1124
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: So there is a guy out there, are people out

1125
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: there the Bills are aware of. And you know the

1126
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: problem is, it's very certain he takes two teams to

1127
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: make a trade. And the Bills certainly have some assets,

1128
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: but they also want to know what they're getting and

1129
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: if they feel and Leslie Frasier has said this, so

1130
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: this is kind of flies in the face of it.

1131
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: He said, we got enough guys here to get the

1132
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: job done. He is, we are our guys now are

1133
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: perfectly capable of doing what we want him to do

1134
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: in the run defense and in the pass pro or

1135
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: pass rush. Dalvin Tomlinson, that might that's the guy. Yeah,

1136
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: if former second round pick in twenty seventeen. Right, If

1137
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: that's true, then the Bills will probably say, Okay, let's

1138
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: go with the guys we've got. If that's smoke, then

1139
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: the Bills will be out there kicking the tires around,

1140
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: not just the Giants like this guy Tomlinson, but every

1141
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: place else in the league as well. That's what Brandon

1142
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: Bean does. That's what their job is to do. That

1143
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean every other team the league is standing in

1144
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: line to have a you know, take one of the

1145
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: Bills fifth round picks or third round picks or a

1146
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: player in a second round or whatever. Yeah, so you

1147
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta weigh the price of that move. But

1148
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. Yeah, the Bills will

1149
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: be have their ear on the ground listening for trades

1150
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: for guys that they think of that. But we both

1151
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: conjecture it would be a big, a big run stopper

1152
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: down inside. You gotta get help in the front seven.

1153
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: That's what has to happen. I mean, Steve's just been

1154
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: talking about committing people to the run front or getting

1155
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: there with four pass rushers right now, because we were

1156
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: just arguing in the last segment, where are the playmakers

1157
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: in the front seven? Matt Malano is probably the closest

1158
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: thing to a playmaker in your front seven starters when

1159
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, and that's really been it for the most

1160
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: part this year anyway. I mean, you can argue that

1161
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver will be a splash play type player in time,

1162
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: but he's not that right now. Quentin Jefferson will give

1163
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: you an impact play every now and again. Mario Addison

1164
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: is the only team is the only player on this

1165
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: roster with more than one sack on the season. But

1166
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: there isn't somebody there right now that forces an opposing

1167
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 1: offense to say, we got a game plan for this guy.

1168
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: We gotta have a plan for him, we gotta know

1169
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: where this guy is on the field at all times.

1170
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: They don't have somebody like that now. They're not going

1171
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: to get somebody like that on the trade market, but

1172
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: knowing that they have to probably be on the lookout

1173
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: for someone that can help improve the unit. Again, with that,

1174
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: some of the parts approach that Steve described last hour

1175
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: that probably has to happen if you're going to get

1176
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: this defense up to the middle of the pack, which

1177
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: if you can, I think you can win a lot

1178
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: more games than you lose. If you can just get

1179
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: this defense to the middle of the pack in the league,

1180
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: you can make some Hey this year. Back to the

1181
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: phones at eight oh three, five fifty and we go

1182
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: to Joe and Tonawanda. Joe, welcome to the show. What

1183
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: do you have for us? Good afternoon. Just a quick question,

1184
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: maybe out of line, but Steve, you've been to practice

1185
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: this for years. I don't know if this ever happened,

1186
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: maybe with experimenting, but I watched the Rams a couple

1187
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and they use dartle at all four

1188
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: different defensive positions to take advantage of mismatches. I'm wondering,

1189
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: with Ed Oliver's athleticism and quickness, why we don't see

1190
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: him on the edge maybe a little more, or you know,

1191
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: maybe to utilize the match you say, utilize his epileticystem

1192
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: um he's getting. You know, he's a little small through

1193
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: the middle of the line. So what other one other

1194
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 1: match change? I was I was thinking about. You guys

1195
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: want to go crazy, but I think I would switch

1196
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: Milano and Edmands only because Edmund's not just having to

1197
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: work one side of the seal. He can rush from

1198
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: the from the edge. Milano's a ball hawk. I think

1199
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: in the middle he would get to you know, he

1200
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: gets to the whole a little quicker. Just your thoughts

1201
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: on that, and I'll hang up some face. Yeah, I

1202
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: catch all of what you're saying, and a lot of

1203
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: why people are coming up with this stuff, and not

1204
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: just this solution, but others. We've heard as well that

1205
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: because the defense has struggled this year. Uh, every solution

1206
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,479
Speaker 1: to whatever problem that you're coming up with, for instance,

1207
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: flip At flip flopping Edmonds and Milano or having at

1208
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Oliver flip with it to the defensive end or defensive tackle.

1209
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not I don't know all of them, but

1210
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: I know some of them. Some of them are obvious,

1211
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: so I don't know if he moved from inside outside

1212
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: is not that easy. And also I would tell you this,

1213
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 1: they've probably tried that because when they go and pass rush,

1214
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: when they go to training camp, ed Oliver will take

1215
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: reps outside, He'll take a pass rush outside on one

1216
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: on one and if they think he can do it,

1217
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: if they see some things interiorly with from coaches who

1218
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: actually know what they're looking at. They'll say, you know what,

1219
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: let's give him a shot out on the outside. They will,

1220
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: they will. They're always thinking about that stuff. It's not

1221
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: just us sitting here after four weeks or after two

1222
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: weeks of rough defensive performances where we get in and said, well,

1223
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: maybe we should try. They've that's what they do. They

1224
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: brainstorm stuff like this all time. Coaching steffs, they talk

1225
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: about it, Players talk about it. Players will say I

1226
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: want to try and I want to try and rush

1227
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: on the outside once, or I want to try this,

1228
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: or that's always on the table now, flip flopping from

1229
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Matt Mike to Sam. I get it, but I wouldn't

1230
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: be surprised. So if when those two guys are on

1231
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: the field, sometimes they're flipped just by assignments anyway, because

1232
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: of the formation and the shifts that happen. So, yes,

1233
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: Edmonds and Milano are guys that are on the field

1234
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: a lot together. They do have similar skill sets and

1235
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: they're asked to do similar things, particularly in the passing game.

1236
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: It's just because of the fact that the Bills alignment

1237
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: and their assignment and adjustment. Defensive adjustments, you know, keeps

1238
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: them from switching positions or switching spots on the field

1239
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. But if there's anything, any adjustment that you

1240
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: can think of as a fan, like you just did, Tom,

1241
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: they've already thought of that and that's on the menu,

1242
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: and they'll switch it without having them physically trade places,

1243
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they'll have Termaine Edmunds

1244
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: and Matt Milano not flip over on a certain defensive

1245
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: adjustment and just switch assignments. If so, if they did

1246
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: trade places, they would do the other thing. They'll just

1247
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: stay where they're at and do it and flip it

1248
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: and flip it. So, yes, I get what you're saying.

1249
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: You're right, and believe me, as much as we think

1250
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: about this as fans, we don't. It's not It's not

1251
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: even a chip on an iceberg. This is my hypothesis

1252
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: as to why we haven't seen Ed Oliver on the

1253
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: outside yet. I think it's because he's not long. He's

1254
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: not a long player. And if you're going to play

1255
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: out on the edge, every offensive tackle in this entire

1256
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: league is longer than at Oliver. And you say, well,

1257
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: what does that mean, well, that means every offensive tackle

1258
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: is getting their hands on Ed Oliver before he can

1259
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: get there his hands on them, and that immediately puts

1260
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: you at a disadvantage. And so I'm not saying it

1261
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: won't happen, but that's my suspicion as to why it

1262
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. That's why would it would happen. I'll

1263
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: give it exain. This is one from my old offensive coordinator,

1264
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: Teddy Marchabrota. Say, for instance, teams are looking at it

1265
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: and they'll say, well, ed Oliver's never outside, He's never

1266
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: gonna be outside. Well, he's done it. He's been outside

1267
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: on ten snaps. Yeah, eight of those snaps were against

1268
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: that team or this team over here because they had

1269
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: a tackle that wasn't well, you know what I mean.

1270
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: So that's what you'll happen. Ed Oliver switches and goes outside.

1271
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: It'll be against one team or two, like it'll be

1272
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Speaker 1: against the Patriots twice, and he'll get ten snaps both

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01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: games against their right tackle or left tackle because it's

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01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: a better physical matchup for him. That's how that would

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Speaker 1: happen with Ed Oliver. All right, back to the phones

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Speaker 1: and we go to Dylan Dylan's in Orlando. Dylan, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. What do you have for us? Sir? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me on this show. I just have a quick

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Speaker 1: question regarding our defense. Do you guys think that we

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01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a leadership problem or do

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: we have a little bit of a coaching problem. I know,

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: losing you know, Phillips and Lawson was kind of a

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01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: big one considering those guys are big guys on that end,

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01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: on that line. But I just want to hear your

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01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: opinion on it, because we got good players on that defense,

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: and it just seems like again and this is reinstenting

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: from another call, I feel like we're not bringing press.

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01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: All of our guys are backing off given these ten

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: yards fifteen yard plays, Like where's our blitz packages? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you would think coming out in the second half against

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01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Leslie Fraser would come up with something, you know,

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: a bigger package, a better package, getting some mahomes, you know,

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Speaker 1: taking less time from him, and I just didn't seem

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Speaker 1: like I saw it. Well, here's the thing with the Chiefs, Dylan,

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01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: and it's different. The Chiefs are a different animal. And

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: for this reason, Pat Mahomes is better when you blitz him.

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: Then when you're don't the third highest rated passer in

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01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: the league that's facing blitz. Greatly agree, that's totally a

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01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 1: game plan thing. So when you see him against Darneld

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01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: this week, or particularly if it's Joe Flacco in New York,

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01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: that's different. It's gonna be I would think it's gonna

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01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: be different. Now, if they don't blitz Joe Flacco at all,

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: I would question that. But if Joe Flacco is the

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01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Jets, they will do that. But it

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: was like and when you notice things like you noticed Dylan,

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: you can bet it's planned that way. And the Bill's

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01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: planned this last week was to shorten the use the Chief.

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01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about teams always talk about

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: using your run game to shorten the game and keep

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01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: them off of it. Don't let them have so many

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01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: possessions the Chief. The Bills used the Chiefs run game

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: to shorten the game, so they only they got twenty

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01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: six points and settled for a couple of field goals,

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01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: and it kept themselves within a score before you know,

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: before they gave up that last you know that last drive.

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: That was kind of the plan. So they used the

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs running game itself against them to shorten the game. Yeah,

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: so defensively it's not fun to watch, but that it

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: was effective. But that run game would not have been

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: as prolific if the Bills offense could have stayed on

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: the field and not kept giving the ball back to

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense to run the balls as they did.

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: The Bills could not stay on the field. They were

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: on the field for six and a half minutes in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, I mean the Chiefs had the

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01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: ball for twenty three minutes of the second half. That

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: was more than the Bills had at the entire game,

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: right over the last final courts. So don't say I'd

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01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: say this. I I don't think there's a leadership issue

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: on the Bill's defense. I think there's what may be

1332
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: a continuity issue and a lot of new faces on

1333
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: the defensive line that the Bills coaching staff are having

1334
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: a hard time ringing in and getting going what they

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01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: want them to do. A lot of new faces, it's

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01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: a whole different personality in that room. You can bet with,

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, Lorenzo Alexander out of the room. You know,

1338
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams has been out of the room. You know,

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: they need somebody in there to say, Okay, this house

1340
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be guys, And I think they're You may

1341
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: be right, they may be struggling with that identity, but

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a it's a problem with the

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff not knowing what to tell these guys to

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: do or having a bad plan. Despite what happened against

1345
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City. They just need somebody that can stand up

1346
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: and dictate play to the opponent, say hey, follow me

1347
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: from a leadership standpoint, got that, I would agree that

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: they probably need somebody like that. And I'm not you

1349
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, just think of ray Lewis.

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: You know when he played for Baltimore, and I mean

1351
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 1: those Baltimore defenses were great. There was more. It was

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot more than just ray Lewis. But when things

1353
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: weren't going the right way and ray Lewis got in

1354
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: your face and then made a play and decked a

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01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: fullback that was like two hundred and forty pounds and

1356
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,440
Speaker 1: threw him on the ground like a sack of potatoes,

1357
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: everybody else took notice and said, all right, here we go.

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01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna be fine. They don't have somebody that that

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: can take over a game like that. They don't. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you one quick story about that, and one that

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01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: from from my days and one from when I was

1362
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: covering the league. Ray ray Lewis is one of the

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01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: all time great defensive players in the in the history

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: of the game. In my opinion, he's the best middle

1365
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: linebacker ever, better than buttkas, better than niche Key, better

1366
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: than Singletary, better than anybody. He's the guy because he

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: demanded excellence from every other guy on that defense. The

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01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: story I heard was and I heard was this. They're

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, and you remember it was Nut,

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: wasn't Terrell Suggs. It was there was another a good player.

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01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: They had an outside linebacker they drafted. The team ran

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01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: a big, hard power sweep to the right, and the

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01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: guy didn't play it exactly right. I didn't set the

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: edge quite right or whatever, and and that was it.

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01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: He hadn't liked it. And ray Lewis walks over to

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01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: the bench and screams at the bench to say get

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: he didn't use names. He goes getting numbers such and

1378
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 1: such off of this field. And you put such and

1379
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: such on this field, now get him off, put him on.

1380
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 1: And this is Ray Lewis talking, and the coaching staffs

1381
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: like sen It pushed the guy on the field, pull

1382
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: him out because the guy wasn't playing a run in

1383
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: a preseason game. Yeah, wasn't playing that run the way

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01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: he wanted it played. When you're on the field with

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01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: a guy like that, you're antenor or up and you're

1386
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: like going, you have a heightened state right where think

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01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: about your mindset. That's how that mindset was for that

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: team for like seventeen years of that. He was in

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01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: the middle. Same thing in the team's I was on

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01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: Darryl Tally. He wouldn't like he didn't make subs or

1391
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: anything like that, but he would on the field, be

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01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: whether it was Bruce or Derek or Condius Bennett or

1393
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: Shane Conlin or know whoever. You know, whoever, he was

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: dog cussing him. And then he would come over and

1395
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: he would dog cuss Walt Corey and Chuck Lester and

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: the entire and anybody who would listen. He would dog

1397
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: cuss him and say, listen, you've got to do it better.

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01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: So guys like that, I don't know, I don't know

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01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: who that alpha male is on this defense. I don't

1400
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: know that there's anybody who you know, Jermaine Edmunds. Make

1401
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: him over and rub your tummy and put his arm

1402
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: around you. But I don't think anybody's dog cussing anybody

1403
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 1: out there. And I'm not saying that that's the only

1404
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: way it can be done. It helps when you have

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01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: some stone cold killers on your defense. You Yeah, and

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01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: I told you that, And I told you this. I've

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01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: heard a good friend of my guy love and respect

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01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 1: a lot told me this as a head coach. He goes, listen,

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: I want a lot of guys like like Tremaine Edmonds

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01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: and Mark Kelso's of the world and these guys who

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: are you just want to Phil Hanson's of the world

1412
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: and guys they're consistent, just consistent. Can rely on them

1413
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 1: just you know, you know, love their moms and dads

1414
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: and they you know, give the charity and they go

1415
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: out and do stuff. And he goes, you need this

1416
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: head coach, or you need a handful of guys. You

1417
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: just hope they're not in jail on Sunday so they

1418
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: show up right. Yeah, you need a couple of like

1419
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: you say, stone cold assassins who don't care what's right

1420
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: or wrong that, But then when that game shows up,

1421
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: they're they're the point of the spirit. Say you let's

1422
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: go follow me. You need that. I mean, football is

1423
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: a game that commands, that demands it of your of

1424
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: your players, and it is something that you need on

1425
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: every team. That's why I think, that's why you think

1426
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: when John Feliciano gets back in the line of everybody

1427
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: thinks that's gonna be a difference because he's that kind

1428
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: of guy. Yeah, is that kind of guy? All right,

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 1: we have to take a break, but when we return

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01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls. We'll step aside right now

1431
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: and get back to you at eight three, five fifty

1432
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: as we're talking Bills prep for the Jets. We're a

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01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: half hour away from talking to Jets senior reporter Eric

1434
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: Allen to give us the four one one on what's

1435
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: going down there in Gotham as Sam Darnold's back on

1436
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: the practice field. But for now, more of your phone

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Speaker 1: calls coming next here on One Bills Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Second half of

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01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: a Wednesday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

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01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: Tasker with you, and we're talking everything under the sun

1441
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: Bills as they get set for their next matchup with

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: the Jets, where Steve has just informed me they are

1443
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: eleven point favorites, which is not quite the spread that

1444
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 1: the Week eight game for the Jets is against the Chiefs,

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 1: which is their MINS twenty two. Kay oh kay. Meanwhile,

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: a former Bills and Jets quarterback and now former Dolphins

1447
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: starting quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick just finished a zoom call with

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01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: the media and he's pretty much brought the entire Miami

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01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: reporting contingent to tears. The guy is apparently crushed that.

1450
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's clear he was blindsided by the decision

1451
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: to make two of the starting quarterback this week. Is

1452
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,440
Speaker 1: one of his quotes on Twitter said, is this it

1453
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: was that my last game in the NFL being a starter.

1454
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: I've been a starter. I've been benched all kinds of

1455
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 1: different ways, but this one I felt like I was

1456
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: fully committed and invested. I felt this was my team.

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01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: Heavy stuff coming from fits today. Kind of feel bad

1458
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: for the guy, but yeah, man, bold moved by the Dolphins.

1459
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: We'll see if it pays off. I don't know. I

1460
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for Brian Flores from what

1461
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: he's done for the Dolphins and how well they played

1462
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: under him last year after an O and seven start

1463
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: to his career in Miami. There now I think eighteen

1464
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: and seventeen. Now they are sitting a lot better than

1465
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: they did. I mean, they're playing good football now and

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: Fitz was the quarterback. So I don't know how you

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01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: make this move unless unless two things are real. One

1468
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: two is better and he's lightening it up in practice

1469
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: right or two. Ownership said, listen, you can go. Let's

1470
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: take a step backwards. We know two is going to

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a dip in production from

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01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: what from the best of what Fitz gave us, But

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01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: we need to get this guy started. He's the guy

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,919
Speaker 1: we're going forward with. Let's get him started on his development.

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01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: We got a good enough team around him that'll support him,

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01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: and we got a stretch of games coming up. Maybe

1477
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: that'll give him a chance with a bye week to

1478
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: get his legs under him. It's time to go. All

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01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: of that could be true, but I don't know how

1480
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: you even that. How do you say we're putting at

1481
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: risk a one game we're behind one game in the division.

1482
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: We've won our last two straight, and we're gonna bench

1483
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback that that got us there, who has done

1484
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: nothing but be a good soldier for one, and certainly

1485
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 1: he's been a roller coaster in production. But man, oh man,

1486
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, how do you do that? Interesting call? We'll

1487
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: have to see where it goes. They're on by this week,

1488
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 1: but we'll know a lot more next week when they're

1489
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: plays play that high flying Rams team eight oh three,

1490
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: oh five fifty. We go to Rick in Nashville to

1491
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: lead us off in this segment. Rick, thanks for joining us.

1492
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: What do you have? Hey, boys, I've got a couple

1493
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: of things, and I mean this in the most respectful way.

1494
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: But why does winners like why is he like undouted

1495
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: the starter over like a night bucker? What does he

1496
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: do differently that makes him like, Oh he's good and

1497
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: Bucker's not. I don't see it, but I'm not an

1498
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: offensive line GurGur or pretend to be one. Probably it

1499
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: probably has to do with technique and his ability to

1500
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: win in a one on one thing that they see

1501
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: in practice. They like what he does better. He may

1502
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: be more athletic, he may get out better, he may

1503
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: be better in meetings. He may have a grasp or

1504
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: a communication skills with the guys around him, he may

1505
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: mesh better with them. And he's probably got more experience,

1506
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: I think than I, and I think all the things

1507
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: that go into making an offensive lineman better, most of

1508
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: which he does better. Okay, And then I had two

1509
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: other quick points, the second one with Edmonds, and I

1510
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: hesitate to be too critical because he just turned twenty

1511
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: two this summer. Um, I think we're waiting just such

1512
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: a big player and such you know, he's got such

1513
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: a gifted player. I think a lot of Bills fans

1514
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: are just waiting for him to absolutely hammer somebody, and

1515
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: not just this year, but like going back since he's

1516
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: been here. He ends up tackling so much, hanging on

1517
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: by the ankle like a corner, and he does not

1518
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,919
Speaker 1: tackle like you know, he want that big middle linebacker

1519
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: to stick somebody. It just never happens, and I think

1520
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: people are frustrated with that. Yeah. I think the fact

1521
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: that he came in as the sixteenth pick in the draft,

1522
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: they trade it up to get him. He's a physical freak,

1523
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: I think, and he made the Pro Bowl last year,

1524
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: and so I think coming off of that season, and

1525
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: now he's the captain of the defense and he leads

1526
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: the room and he runs the meetings on Thursdays. Everybody's like,

1527
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. This guy's gonna tear the

1528
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: cover off of things each and every week. And we

1529
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: have not seen splash plays from Tremaine Edmonds. Now, in fairness,

1530
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: he's been dealing with the shoulder injury that he's gonna

1531
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: pretty much have to play through for the rest of

1532
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: the season and make the best of it. It's going

1533
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: to be a management thing the rest of the year,

1534
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: and then who knows, he may have to get something

1535
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: done to it to get it taken care of once

1536
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: and for all. But the splash plays, the impact plays,

1537
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, the play in crunch time that you absolutely

1538
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: have to have. That's one of the guys that I

1539
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: think Bill's fans are looking to on the defensive side

1540
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: of the ball to deliver based on that status cache

1541
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: and they just haven't seen enough of it. And I

1542
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: think that's where the frustration on the part of Bill's

1543
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: fans life. Yeah, he's not a hitter, he's more I

1544
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: get what you mean. He's not a hitter, he's more

1545
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: of a grabber. But these linebackers in this defense, to

1546
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: my mind, are more about being able to drop into

1547
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: pass coverage as well as you know, stop the run

1548
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 1: in a run. It's a different league than it has

1549
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: been in decades past. I don't think this is a

1550
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: defense that is styled to have a middle linebacker who's

1551
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: a who's a big hitter like that. Um. I think

1552
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: they like the way he plays mentally as much as

1553
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: they like the way he plays physically. But go ahead,

1554
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: you got something else he's we moved on. We went,

1555
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: We're going to Joe in Tonawanda. Joe, what do you

1556
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: have for us? I think he's got on the Tremaine

1557
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: train as well. Yeah. Yeah, As a matter of fact,

1558
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: I am um, and I understand that they can't they

1559
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: can't make too many great changes, but I've never liked

1560
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: the way they use Tremaine Edmonds. He's he's a guy

1561
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: that's got length, he's a guy that's got speed. He

1562
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: would play great downhill. I mean, I know that's too

1563
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: late in the season to do anything dramatic, but I've

1564
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 1: always liked him on the outside. Well, that's where he

1565
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: played in college at Virginia Tech. Outside linebacker they'd line

1566
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: him up on the line of scrimmage in passing downs

1567
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: and he'd rush the passer, known as a good blitzer

1568
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: in college. I suppose if you feel that you're truly

1569
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: lacking in terms of pass rush, what's to say you

1570
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: can't line him up on the edge as a pass

1571
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: rusher in a turbo package and put somebody else on

1572
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: the field to play middle linebacker, whether it's Dodson, who's

1573
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: got the athleticism on a passing down to do that

1574
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: with Milano. So maybe when Milano comes back, you put

1575
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: together some kind of package of plays for Edmonds to

1576
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: rush the passer off the edge, and you put dots

1577
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: in a Milano on the field a linebacker. You could

1578
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: do that, right, Steve, I mean that's not the realm

1579
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: of possibility. I think one of the things that limits

1580
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser and Sean McDermott from using Tremaine Edmonds differently

1581
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: than they use him or the pieces around him. Yeah,

1582
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you had a yeah. I just think

1583
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: that's probably part of the reason why he has done

1584
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: what he has done in this defense is because of

1585
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: not only the defensive philosophy that Leslie Fraser and Sean

1586
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: McDermott play, but also the pieces that they've been able

1587
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: to put around him. Certainly Milano is a nice piece

1588
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: to that, but the next best pieces are behind him, right,

1589
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: the next best pieces are behind him. I think this

1590
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: is a defense that's built from the back end to

1591
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: the front end. And I just I mean, I get

1592
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: what you're saying. And a lot of people point to

1593
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,879
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edwards because he's a focal point of that defense.

1594
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: He's the He's the guy who calls the defenses and

1595
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: mets sets the defense and gets them set up and

1596
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: squared away. And there are no other middle linebackers in

1597
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: the NFL who are built and looked like Tremaineans And

1598
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: that to me sets a lot of people off as

1599
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: to saying, why isn't he playing someplace? So why isn't

1600
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: he dominating? Right? Or that too? Yeah, we go to

1601
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: Carmen and Ken Moore. Carmen, thanks for joining us. You're

1602
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Hi, guys, how are you today? Good? Good?

1603
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: I just want to talk a little bit about um

1604
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: the defense. Defense on the team. Um Massi and use

1605
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: um I played a little football coach that in the

1606
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: past and d season since nineteen sixty five. So I've

1607
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: seen a lot of football, and what I don't understand

1608
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,919
Speaker 1: is earlier in the season, it was really a surprise

1609
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: that Mercy even made the team. They never really thought

1610
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: that he was gonna make it. And all of a sudden,

1611
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, behind the team and the other one. And

1612
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: then we're talking about like when I getting in the air,

1613
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 1: we're not making sacks. Things like that. Get the playoffs

1614
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,440
Speaker 1: news um. Last week, if you look at the statistics

1615
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: of whom in the tackles during the weekend, the kind

1616
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 1: of sea games, he wasn't even on the list. He

1617
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: had an assist, that was it. He looked back and

1618
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: he was over the years and this guy was seven

1619
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: eighty nine picks a year. He was seven, you know,

1620
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: six seven tackles the game games, he did not make it.

1621
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: Any tackles un fift. He's accounted for two touchdowns again

1622
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: for those one with the kind of season game when

1623
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: he was lined up on the left hand side and

1624
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 1: he took an inside ruts which he always does. He

1625
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: never stayed at home and touches the edge and the

1626
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: plane Hill ran right around the side for a touchdown.

1627
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: This game more important anything, We're in six point games

1628
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: and he's on the left hand side. They were enough,

1629
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: they weren't They needed thirteen yards games the city. He

1630
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: put an inside rush on the left side. He ran

1631
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: right around it and through their thirteen years pack to

1632
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: get a first sound in third and twelve, which would

1633
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: have turned the ball best to the belt, and we

1634
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: would have had said when we were only gone by six,

1635
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: why they let go um Jordan Sillips. He's a big

1636
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: guy in the middle. Him and Start they were like

1637
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: two big guys in the middle. We want to know

1638
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: why Advents isn't playing as good is because he knew

1639
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: those two guys were going to cover their defth They

1640
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: were two big plugs in the middle. Now those guys

1641
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: up in the front are getting blown off the ball

1642
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: because they know what they after covered here flocked out there,

1643
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 1: so you can take your two defends of things. We

1644
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: could have got rid of both of them. Murphy shouldn't

1645
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: have a been on the team with the money. Got

1646
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: herself out good. Yeah, Letcher, Yeah, I hear your krmen.

1647
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: But one of the reasons, most of the reasons that

1648
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: people say Trent Murphy wasn't gonna make the team is

1649
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: because of the money. Wasn't player. Uh and if and

1650
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: I know this too, We've seen that this week with

1651
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain being released. If there was anybody who would

1652
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: play better than Trent Murphy, they would be playing in

1653
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: front of Trent Murphy. Well, and Trent if he took

1654
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: a seat this pass man, he took a seat this

1655
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: past week. But I get what he's saying. I mean,

1656
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 1: Carmen is of the opinion now and hindsight's twenty twenty.

1657
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: It's easy to say this now that you see how

1658
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: the season's playing out. But Jordan Phillips and Star Latulalay

1659
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: are two giant pieces that you've taken out of the

1660
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 1: middle of this defense to fortify the front and the

1661
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,480
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And yes, he's right. It has negatively

1662
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: impacted Tremaine Edmond's playmaking ability because he's got guys coming

1663
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: at him at full speed. They have the advantage because

1664
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: they know where they're going and Tremaine's guessing. And he's

1665
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: used to be being able to run free without a

1666
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: lineman climbing to the second level and gobbling him up.

1667
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: So it's an adjustment for him. He's not used to that.

1668
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Not to mention the fact that he's playing with a

1669
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: wing and a half with a shoulder, with a bum shoulder,

1670
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: So the deck has been stacked against him. Now you

1671
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: can make the argument as much as you want. Now

1672
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 1: it's easy to say this now that last offseason you

1673
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: established a value of what you would be willing to

1674
01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: pay Jordan Phillips as a free agent, and I think

1675
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: they knew they were going to get outbid on the

1676
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: open market by thirty one other teams bidding for his services,

1677
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: and they said, well, nope, we're sticking to this value. Now.

1678
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: They did that under the guise of we've got to

1679
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: pay Trent Murphy nine point seven, we got to pay

1680
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes nine point five. That's almost twenty million dollars

1681
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: for your two defensive ends, one of whom didn't play

1682
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 1: last week as a healthy scratch. And so it's easy

1683
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: for fans to now say, well, if you're not even

1684
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: going to play the guy, you should have used that

1685
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: money to resign Jordan Phillips. I get it, but Hindsight's

1686
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and the unanticipated opt out of Star Latoulala

1687
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: only compounded the problem. I hadn't thought about him. But

1688
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: you know this reminds me of It reminds me of

1689
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: three years ago, or was it three years ago? Two

1690
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: years ago? Three years ago when Eric would unexpectedly had

1691
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: to retire because of an injury, and Richie and Cognito

1692
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: retired and what happened at the line of scrimmage there right,

1693
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: and it was unexpected and the team didn't have a

1694
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: chance to have They didn't have a chance to cover

1695
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: from that. So they went through the entire twenty eighteen

1696
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 1: season with an offensive line that got their rookie quarterback crush.

1697
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he couldn't learn anything except to scramble. And

1698
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 1: this kind of reminds me of that. Now, certainly they

1699
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: knew they lost Jordan Phillips early, and they did their

1700
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: best to reply. I mean, think about it. They brought

1701
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: in Vernon Butler, Quentin Jefferson, they brought some guys in.

1702
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: But this kind of reminds me of that and the

1703
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: ripple effects that those guys close to the line, up

1704
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: close to the football have on the entire side of

1705
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: the football they play on. All right, we have to

1706
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: take a break, but we'll try to get a few

1707
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 1: more of your calls in before the top of the hour.

1708
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: So in about ten minutes time, we'll be speaking with

1709
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: Eric Allen, senior New York Jets dot Com reporter, to

1710
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: give us the update on what's going on down there

1711
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: in Fair Lawn, New Jersey on the practice field. More

1712
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: coming up with your phone calls. Next here on one

1713
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

1714
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: Miss Brown. Steve Tasker with you right back to the

1715
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: phones here at eight oh three five fifty Bob in

1716
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo are gonna lead us off here, Bob, what do

1717
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: you have for us? Welcome to the show. Hey, thanks

1718
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: for having me on, guys, Steve one of your biggest

1719
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: fans in Buffalo here, thank you. My question is a

1720
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: lot of the teams that we're facing are rushing Josh

1721
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: really hard. Do you think that we should get our

1722
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: running backs, especially Singletary, more sweeps, more screens, um so

1723
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: that he can get a good running start and it

1724
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: might open up the middle running game because it doesn't

1725
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 1: seem like ore blocking in the middle is always working.

1726
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: So that's what what do you guys think about that?

1727
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't I don't dispute that. I think one of

1728
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: the things that teams want to do is try and

1729
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: rush Josh. I think he's although he's probably I don't

1730
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: know if you've noted, but when the teams blitz him,

1731
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: he's actually really good. Uh, He's a lot like Pat Mahomes.

1732
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that the problem is this, When teams

1733
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: are able to get pressure on Josh with just four

1734
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: guys rushing, then we've got problems. And that's what I

1735
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: think happened in the Kansas City game with the guys

1736
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: they had rushing and I so, yeah, we have seen

1737
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: more screen passes, like you suggested, we've screen seen more

1738
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: of those this year than we have in the past,

1739
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: and I think one of the reasons is that for

1740
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: that is that Winters and Ford are at guard with

1741
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 1: which Mitch Morse is and because Quentin Spain and John

1742
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: Feliciano struggle to get out in front of a screen

1743
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: pass because they're not that fast, Morse can do it.

1744
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: But teams will know that and they'll just put somebody

1745
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,839
Speaker 1: on Morris to keep him in and leave the guards uncovered.

1746
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 1: So if you run a screen pass, they know those

1747
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: guys are going to struggle to get out in front

1748
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: of it anyway, So that's a way to defend that

1749
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: and take it away even if they are coming with pressure.

1750
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: So with Ford and Winters, along with Mitch Morris inside,

1751
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 1: we're seeing more screen passes to combat this. You know,

1752
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: some heavy pressure packages that teams bring, but you still

1753
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: got to XC and with respect to Singletary in the

1754
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,600
Speaker 1: running game. Coach Dabele said it with the media in

1755
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: his conference call yesterday. He said, we've tried everything. We've

1756
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: tried outside zone, inside zone, trap gap. I mean, they've

1757
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: done just about anything you can draw up to try

1758
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: to get the running game going. It's not like he

1759
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: hasn't gone into the toolbox to try to pull something

1760
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: else different out to see if a new tool is

1761
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: going to work better. None of it's worked consistently enough.

1762
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: They're more than aware of it. It's not news to them.

1763
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 1: They're they're working on it, and I think they just

1764
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 1: believe it's gonna come down to a matter of reponit

1765
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: right and they got to cut back on the penetration

1766
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. I mean, dabel said it

1767
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: yesterday on the conference call. He said, look, Devin Singletary's

1768
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: made some nice four or five yard gains for us, which,

1769
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 1: by the way, people, that's a good run in the NFL.

1770
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: A four yard gain is a good play in the NFL.

1771
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: On the ground, he said, he's making good four or

1772
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: five yard games for us. The problem is he's got

1773
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: a gain two or three of those yards before he

1774
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,799
Speaker 1: even gets to the line of scrimmage by dodging somebody

1775
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: that's in his backfield. And that's where that's where the

1776
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,879
Speaker 1: issue is. They can't get to the line of scrimmage

1777
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: without having to make You want to make it. You

1778
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: want your running back making a defender miss at the

1779
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: second and third level. You know that last safety that

1780
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: he's got a miss for a big play. You don't

1781
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 1: want him having to make a guy miss because who's

1782
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle like you're not, You're gonna go anywhere

1783
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: in the run game. If that's the case. They had

1784
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: a couple of shots. Kansas City ran and Steve Spagmutnola

1785
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: did a really nice job for the Kansas City Chiefs,

1786
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. I mean, there there was a time

1787
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: or remember when in singletary either had to dodge a

1788
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: guy in the backfield or got hit in the face

1789
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 1: by a corner coming off the edge. And the run game,

1790
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 1: they called some well timed run did. They picked their

1791
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: spots extremely well and the Bills paid the price for

1792
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: it. It It was it was a well coordinated game by

1793
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Steve Spagnolo, the Chiefs and the Bills. You know, they

1794
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: couldn't stay on the field offensively. I think that, more

1795
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: than anything was the difference in that football game. If

1796
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: the Bill's offense would have been clicking it like it

1797
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: had in the first month of the season, that game

1798
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: would have been it would have been as close or

1799
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 1: closer than it was in a six point game in

1800
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and the Bills would have been able

1801
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: to answer, and it would have been a game that

1802
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: have came down a well who's got the ball last?

1803
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: But the Bills weren't able to get to that point

1804
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: because you know, they couldn't stay on the field on

1805
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: third down. We have to take a break, but when

1806
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: we return, Jets senior reporter and insider Eric Allen will

1807
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: join us to talk Jets as we find out just

1808
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: how much Sam Darnold is doing as he tries to

1809
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: return to practice from that non throwing shoulder injury. Where

1810
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: it is he's practicing on a limited basis today. Does

1811
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: that mean he plays Sunday We'll check in with Eric Allen,

1812
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 1: who might have the answers for us when we return

1813
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. This

1814
01:34:54,040 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello, Bill's Radio Network. Sports. Here

1815
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: a sports update from One Bill's Drive. The Bills of

1816
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 1: earliest veteran guard Quentin Spain. The news coming down just

1817
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: over an hour ago. Spain first announcing the news on

1818
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: his Twitter account before the team confirmed the transaction a

1819
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 1: short time later. Spain was in year one of a

1820
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: three year contract that he signed with the club this

1821
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: past offseason on the heels of starting sixteen games at

1822
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 1: left guard for Buffalo in twenty nineteen. The Bills will

1823
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 1: incur a four and a half million dollars cap hit

1824
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 1: for the release. The open roster spot has now led

1825
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: to speculation that the team could be ready to pull

1826
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: John Feliciano off injured reserve. Bill's Injury updates from the

1827
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,480
Speaker 1: practice field. John Brown, Cody Ford, Dawson Knox not participating

1828
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 1: or seen on the practice field today. Matt Mulanai limited

1829
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 1: participant Cam lewis also seen out on the practice field today.

1830
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: We'll have a participation status update on all those players

1831
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 1: when the injury reports released later this afternoon. Arnold still

1832
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: dealing with a non throwing shoulder injury suffered a couple

1833
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, but reports out of New York are

1834
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: saying Darnold is practicing on a limited basis today. Many

1835
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: wonder if that means he will be back in the

1836
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: starting lineup Sunday against the Bills. As reported yesterday, the

1837
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins turning to Tua their number five overall pick

1838
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty draft. He's replacing Ryan Fitzpatrick as

1839
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: the team starting QB. Dolphins on a bye this week,

1840
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: but host the Rams in Week eight, Game one of

1841
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: the World Series. Last night, Clayton Kershaw retired seventeen to

1842
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: the final eage team batters. He faced as the Dodgers

1843
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: cruise to an eight three victory over the Raise last

1844
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: night in Game one, Game two tonight at APM. That

1845
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 1: is your sports update here from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown,

1846
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you our number three of the show

1847
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line right now as advertised

1848
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: is the senior Jets reporter and insider for New York

1849
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: Jets dot Com. It is one Eric Allen joining us

1850
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: on the line. Okay, you're doing man, thanks for making

1851
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 1: some I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on. Yeah.

1852
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: So let's start with the obvious one, mister Darnold, who's

1853
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,639
Speaker 1: missed the last couple of games, but things are looking

1854
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: up as he's on the practice field today. And what

1855
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna take for him to get

1856
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: the green light from the coaching staff. Yeah, brownie, he's

1857
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: back on practice field today. He's gonna take team reps

1858
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: on a limited basis. The key for him right now

1859
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: is to go through practice and see how he shoulder

1860
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: response to it. But all signs positive for Sam Darnold

1861
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: getting back on the practice field after missing the last

1862
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 1: two games that Joe Flacco started. How keen are the

1863
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: jest to get him back on the field, And how

1864
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: big a drop off was there when Darnald took I

1865
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: mean when Flacco took over for him, what was that like? Well,

1866
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 1: you know, Steve and you know the big difference between

1867
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 1: these two guys is each of them can make any throw.

1868
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: But the difference with Darnald is he can improvise. He

1869
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: makes a lot more plays outside the pocket. The Jets

1870
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: have only scored six offensive touchdowns this year. And three

1871
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: of them came on remarkable plays by Sam Darnold. Two

1872
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: connections to Braxton Barrios. And then you guys saw that

1873
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 1: Thursday night run against the Denver Broncos, the longest run

1874
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: by a quarterback in franchise history. So where is Joe Flackle?

1875
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 1: You know what, You're where he's gonna be. He's gonna

1876
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: be in a pocket. But if things collapse around Sam Darnold,

1877
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: he can get outside. And he's awfully comfortable talking it.

1878
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: And also he's pretty good, pretty accurate when he is

1879
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: on the move. I believe the season opener when these

1880
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: two teams squared off, Denzel Mims was not a part

1881
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: of the equation, if memory serves. But it looks like

1882
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: Darnold's cast of you know, receivers might be a little

1883
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: bit healthier than it was the last time. Right, Well,

1884
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: they're definitely getting healthy. There's not about no doubt about that.

1885
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: Adam Gays said that Sam Donald has not had his

1886
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: dudes on the field together at all in two and

1887
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: twenty because Denzel Mims a second pick out of Bler,

1888
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: He's not played one game. In fact, he did not

1889
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: have a training camp practice. Breshad Perriman came back last

1890
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: week against the Miami Dolphins. He had four catches for

1891
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: sixty two yards. A lot of those yards came late,

1892
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: and the Jets obviously did not score any points last week.

1893
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: But Denzel Mims and Brashad Perriman both big targets, good

1894
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: catch radiuses, and there's sub four four guys, so the

1895
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: Jets do are going to be getting some more speed

1896
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: around Sam Donald. Jeff Smith a former collegiate quarterback at

1897
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Boston College, he's another guy who's sub four four. But

1898
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Mims does have a chance to go this week. He

1899
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: looked impressive playing scout team rops last week, but now

1900
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 1: he's getting team rops. So this would be the first

1901
01:39:56,160 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: time if it indeed happens on Sunday Brownie, where the

1902
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Jets would have Denzel Mims, Breshad Perryman on the outside,

1903
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: James the Crowder in that slot in that slot position

1904
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: the first time in twenty twenty and that was the

1905
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 1: dub chart to begin this season. And we've never seen

1906
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: those guys. Wow at top that we've never seen those

1907
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 1: guys together. And just as you get those guys together,

1908
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 1: Levon Bell gets, you know, ejected from the car from

1909
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: the moving vehicle, and how did that play in the

1910
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: how did that play in the locker room? And there

1911
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: in New York, Well, Steve Listen, he was a well

1912
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: like guy in the locker room. Thinking about Levian Bell,

1913
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,799
Speaker 1: he's a jovial guys happy, he was a good worker.

1914
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: I think the guys inside the locker room had a

1915
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 1: lot of respect for him. With that being said, I

1916
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 1: think a lot of guys also remark that this is

1917
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: a business, and for other guys in that offensive backfield,

1918
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: it means opportunity. You do have Frank Gore here, who

1919
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: of course was there in Buffalo last year up providing

1920
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: in fact leadership in the backfield. That a tough, straight

1921
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: ahead runner who can run between the tackles. But Lemichael

1922
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: p Run was drafted out of fourth round and the

1923
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Jets like him a lot. So he's a guy who

1924
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: not only can run it, but he is an adapt

1925
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: receiver out of the backfield. So this is going to

1926
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: mean more playing time for the rookie. And Ty Johnson

1927
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 1: got into the next last week. A former Detroit line

1928
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: he sprung free for the longest run by a Jets

1929
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: running back in twenty twenty. It just didn't work for

1930
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 1: the Jets and Levion Ball over the course of seventeen games, guys,

1931
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: he did not have one carry over twenty yards here

1932
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 1: with the Jets. He just looking at p Ryan specifically.

1933
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: I know Gay said last week he obviously wants to

1934
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 1: work him in more. That didn't really manifest itself, maybe

1935
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,759
Speaker 1: to thee to the degree that people expected last week.

1936
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Do you think his work rate takes a noticeable uptick

1937
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: this week? Either think the work rate is going to

1938
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: continue to increase here as we go. We got ten

1939
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: games left in the season, and you mentioned when you

1940
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: look at just ball distribution, Yeah, Gore had the most carries,

1941
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: but p Ryan actually had the more most reps out

1942
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: of the offensive backfield. But yeah, I think you're gonna

1943
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: continue to see that because the Jets think that he

1944
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: has an explosive factor that maybe the other guys. And

1945
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned Ty Johnson. He's another guy who's probably a

1946
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: sub four four guy who played with Detroit Lions, played

1947
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 1: collegiately at Maryland. So I think both of those guys

1948
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: are going to continue to see their work rate increase

1949
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 1: as we go here. And then what's the status with Beckton.

1950
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: I know he had the shoulder problem and they put

1951
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: him back in the game. They came under a lot

1952
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: of criticism for putting him back in hurt. Is he

1953
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: going to be taking a seat for a little while

1954
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 1: here or is he going to keep playing? Well, he didn't.

1955
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: He did not play against the Miami Dolphins, but he

1956
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,879
Speaker 1: will also be practicing on a him into the basis,

1957
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: the Jets hope to get him back in the lineup

1958
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 1: this week, and that would not only help whoever's playing

1959
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: quarterback guys protecting their blindside, but also he is a

1960
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: monster as far as what he can do in the

1961
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: helping the run game. He's a tremendous run blocker immediately

1962
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: here in his NFL career. So the Jets are hoping

1963
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: they can get him back. And I saw him in

1964
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: Week one. I mean he threw one of the Bill's

1965
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: linebackers over to the side of the field like a

1966
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: wet towel after a shower. I mean, unbelievable. Yeah, he's

1967
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 1: a monster. He's got really good feed, he's got a

1968
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 1: passion for the game. I think he's got a really

1969
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 1: bright future. So you'd hope that he is back, But

1970
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: the Jets don't want to hurry him back into the line.

1971
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: You mentioned that Thursday night game. He was just supposed

1972
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: to be there for emergency purposes and then one of

1973
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 1: the tackles unfortunately went down and before you knew Affactam

1974
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: was in and then he was out. Yeah, this is

1975
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 1: a Chets team is obviously struggling. The shamn't won a game,

1976
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: but they and they're allowing thirty point eight points a game.

1977
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: And then they trade a defensive tackle Steve mcclennon. What

1978
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: kind of player was McClendon and what are they and

1979
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: I know they got the assets coming back the other way.

1980
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: What did Greg Williams and the defensive guys have to

1981
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: say about that trade and what was about Well Greg

1982
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: Williams won't talk Steve until later in the week and

1983
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 1: McLendon was one of the most respected guys in the

1984
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: locker room thirty four years old. They out run Plugger.

1985
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't going to give you much in terms of

1986
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 1: rushing the quarterback. But this was an opportunity for McClendon

1987
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: to go play for a team that is you know

1988
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 1: you with figure is going to be in the playoffs.

1989
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:39,600
Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and McClendon had some good seasons

1990
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:43,799
Speaker 1: under former Jets head coach Todd Bowles now Todd Bulls,

1991
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 1: of course the defensive coordinator for Bruce arians there in Tampa.

1992
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 1: So they looked at it as an opportunity to give

1993
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: a guy a chance to go get that ring with Tampa,

1994
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: and it also means more valuable reps for the Jets

1995
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: up for front on the interior, Quinnon Williams has played

1996
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 1: well against the run, and he had two sacks against

1997
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. John Franklin Myer is a

1998
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: former first fourth round pick with the La Rams. He's

1999
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 1: done some good things here. Not a traditional edge guy,

2000
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 1: he's more in the middle and then full of Ronzo

2001
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: Fatakasi and Nathan Shepard or guys who are adopted stopping

2002
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: the run as well. So you give McLennan an opportunity

2003
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 1: to go get that ring, and you get a chance

2004
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: to evaluate your younger guys. Hey, hey, what do you

2005
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 1: think about I mean, because we've seen it written that

2006
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Douglas said he will take phone calls

2007
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 1: about anybody. It doesn't seem like there are too many

2008
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: untouchables left on the Jets roster. If some team wants

2009
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: to call and inquire, not saying a deal is going

2010
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 1: to happen, but he's listening clearly. So you know, put

2011
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: your GM had on for a second here, knowing that

2012
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 1: this is a Jets team that kind of wants to

2013
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: acquire assets to kind of reconstruct the roster to a

2014
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: certain extent. What do you see in the short term

2015
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 1: future here over these last ten games. Well, the short

2016
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: term future is you how to evaluate what you do

2017
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 1: have in the house. And Sam Donald is one guy

2018
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,759
Speaker 1: who you want to see him have playing time around

2019
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 1: a healthy roster, guys around him, these skill position players.

2020
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 1: And we talk about Mims coming back, he did not

2021
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: play the game. He's a second round draft pick for you,

2022
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: Lemichael p Ryan a fourth round pick. Those are guys

2023
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,839
Speaker 1: that you want to take a long look at. Breshad Perriman,

2024
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: you sign him to a one year deal in the

2025
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: off season, what is he going to be able to

2026
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: do moving forward? With Sam Donald? You mentioned Joe Douglas

2027
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 1: and looking ahead, the Jets do have financial flexibility in

2028
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: the off season. And the other thing that Jamal Adams

2029
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: trade the Seattle meant is the Jets have two first

2030
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 1: round picks guys, not only in twenty twenty one, but

2031
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two as well, so they do have a

2032
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: lot of draft capital moving forward. And you're right, Brownie,

2033
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has always said that I will listen to

2034
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 1: anybody who gives me a call. And look at where

2035
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: the Jets are at right now. There's zero on six,

2036
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 1: they've been i'll scored by one hundred and ten points.

2037
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 1: They've had a lead this season for three minutes and

2038
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 1: twenty seconds. So this is a team that I got

2039
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. They're in desperate need of

2040
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 1: a victory just start feeling a little bit better for themselves.

2041
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: But they want to take a long look at what

2042
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: they do have in house, and Joe Douglas has always

2043
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: been clear about it that he'll listen to anybody who

2044
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 1: gives them a call in terms of looking at ways

2045
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: to improve this roster. The last one for me, Eric

2046
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: is when if Joe Flacco or Sam Darnald, one of

2047
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:40,799
Speaker 1: the two of them are is going to play quarterback

2048
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 1: this week. We don't know exactly who it looks like darnalood,

2049
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: how does the offense look differently? What has Adam Gates

2050
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: said about what he likes to do with Flacco rather

2051
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: than Sam Darnal. It can't be exactly the same play menu.

2052
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 1: How does it? How have you noticed that it's varied

2053
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 1: with each of those two quarterbacks. Well, Flaccwood didn't start

2054
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: a game since we ate last year at the dun

2055
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: Ver Broncos. So he said when he came back into

2056
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: the lineup and made that first start a couple of

2057
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,919
Speaker 1: weeks ago that he kind of felt tentative on some throws.

2058
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: The Jets like what he did, but they haven't been

2059
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: converted in the red zone or on third down. Steve

2060
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: last week against the Miami Dolphins, the Jets which is

2061
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: two of seventeen on third down, So this is a

2062
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: team that is in desperate need of getting some good

2063
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: gains on first and second down, so they're not in

2064
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: third and manageables. But like I said about Darneld before,

2065
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: he is the ability to improvise. Where Flacco is going

2066
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: to be your pure prototypical pocket passer, whereas Adam Gaves.

2067
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 1: You'll see him at times get Sam Donald out on

2068
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: the move on design boots and designed rollouts and things

2069
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: like that, because he does have such great feet and

2070
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 1: the other thing that he can do, much like Josh

2071
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: Allen is, guys, when it breaks down around him, he's

2072
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: able to make a play on his own. All right, Eric, listen,

2073
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, sir um you know, good luck

2074
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: keeping your ear to the ground on where things are

2075
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 1: going to shake out a quarterback for your guys this week.

2076
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: But we appreciate all the updates. Thanks for the time, fella.

2077
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: Thanks Eric, great catching up with you guys as always.

2078
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 1: All Right, that's Eric Allen, your senior Jets reporter and

2079
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 1: insider for New York Jets dot Com. Does a great

2080
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: job on their website down there, so if you want

2081
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 1: to see what else is happening in the AFC, So

2082
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: that's a good play to go if you want to

2083
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,680
Speaker 1: get the lowdown on the Jets, although most people at

2084
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: this point at them dead and buried. At Owen six

2085
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: and a roster that's just been stripped almost bare of

2086
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: arguably five of their top ten players between opt outs

2087
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: and trades. I mean Jamal Adams, Levy on Bell, Steve McClendon,

2088
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: and then C. J. Mosley on the opt out. I

2089
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: mean that's four of their five or six best players.

2090
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean the Bills, I mean Bills have in recent

2091
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: years have kind of went through that kind of thing,

2092
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 1: But it seems like people who follow the Jets just

2093
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: constantly carry around a shovel with dirt in it. I

2094
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 1: mean every three years it's it's this, yeah, it's and

2095
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: it's this is no different, and this is no different.

2096
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 1: There is one thing that we did want to cover

2097
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 1: in the wake of the back to back losses that

2098
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 1: the Bills suffered here in Week five and Week six,

2099
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 1: there was an interesting tweet that Steve came across that

2100
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: referenced the ninety two Bills team that he played on,

2101
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: and our MSG viewers are seeing the tweet here. It

2102
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 1: says this Bills season is closely paralleling the ninety two

2103
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 1: Bills season in many ways. They won their first four

2104
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: games with offense that when Bonkers then got smoked in

2105
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 1: the next two games. There's seventh and eighth games that

2106
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: year at the Jets and home to the Patriots. Seeing

2107
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 1: a trend here, question Mark, So that's from Kaz who

2108
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 1: put that tweet out. So Steve, I'll put it to you.

2109
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think of that comparison

2110
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: in terms of how the season has shaken out to

2111
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,679
Speaker 1: this point at it goes even deeper than that as well,

2112
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 1: because that was the same year that the Bills were

2113
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 1: playing in the NFC West in the AFC West, So

2114
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 1: the parallels are there. For sure. The offense is going

2115
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 1: to be the key to that resurgence, But just like

2116
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 1: that Bills team was, the defense has got to be

2117
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,440
Speaker 1: playmaking and opportunistic. It doesn't have to be stifling or dominant,

2118
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: but it does have to be opportunistic and it has

2119
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: to make plays on crucial downs, which is what that

2120
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 1: team had. And the offense, like we saw in the

2121
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 1: first four weeks of this season, they got to be

2122
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 1: a handful every week. Do you think they've got to

2123
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 1: be healthy and effective every week going forward? Yeah, because

2124
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 1: going back to ninety two, after losing to the Dolphins

2125
01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:00,600
Speaker 1: thirty seven to ten at home and then losing to

2126
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: the La Raiders on the road twenty to three the

2127
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 1: following week, you guys came back at the Jets and

2128
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 1: won a tight one there twenty four twenty and then

2129
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 1: won the following week against New England at home sixteen

2130
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 1: to seven. So you didn't blow anybody out of the water,

2131
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: but you got back in the win column and there

2132
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 1: were some tight games from the next couple of weeks

2133
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: after that, but you're ripped. You ripped off five in

2134
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: a row after those two losses. Yeah, well they were

2135
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 1: pretty good back then. You had Pittsburgh and at Miami.

2136
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: I had great seats to those games too. Fun season,

2137
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that was what a ride. And believe me,

2138
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: I was in the backseat of that car. Hey, at

2139
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: least you're in the car, and I was a lot

2140
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 1: of people I was. It was fun. It was it

2141
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: was somebody would have paid to be a hood or

2142
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: you think about it was that. It was the you know,

2143
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 1: it was the depth of that's four years super Bowl

2144
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: run and uh, it was a group of guys that

2145
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: you know, there's a ton of guys on that team

2146
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: that ended up in the Hall of Fame and for

2147
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 1: good reason, all the way from the top of that organization,

2148
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean mister Wilson on down, and they were in

2149
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 1: full force in that season. That team finished eleven and five.

2150
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 1: But I think that I think the parallels this. You know,

2151
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: that was a team that was built a lot like

2152
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 1: this one as well a quarterback who had had some success.

2153
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Unlike Josh, this gym I think was further deeper, well

2154
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: way into his career. And but they were a team

2155
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: built around the offense. They had that no huddle thing

2156
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: that teams were starting to catch up with at that point.

2157
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: And if the offense didn't score, they weren't gonna win games.

2158
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:40,879
Speaker 1: You know. The defense got plays at opportunistic moments. That

2159
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: that was the personality of that defense back then. They

2160
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 1: did pretty good, though. I will say this defense looking

2161
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: at the scores at the games down the stretch here,

2162
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 1: because after that two game losing streak, all right, the

2163
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Jets get twenty, but the Patriots the next week only

2164
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 1: managed seven points, twenty by the Steelers, twenty by the Dolphins,

2165
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: fourteen by the falcon They lose sixteen thirteen to the Colts.

2166
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: You lose twenty four to seventeen to the Jets in

2167
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: the rematch, and then you give up seventeen to the Broncos,

2168
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 1: sixteen to the Saints, and then I can't I think

2169
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 1: Jim got hurt in that finale against the Oilers right

2170
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: before the comeback game next week. That was that was

2171
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 1: the twenty seven to three game. Eleven and five was yeah,

2172
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: that was that. That seems that seems like too few

2173
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 1: of wins for that team. But when Jim getting hurt

2174
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: and in that last game. That last game was irrelevant

2175
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: to us. I think, yeah, you couldn't advance your commission.

2176
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 1: You had a home wild card clinch, right, So and

2177
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: then it ended up us PET beating the Oilers or

2178
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: no getting crushed by the Oilers twenty sixteen and then

2179
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: having to play them seven days later, and what turned

2180
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 1: out without Jim, without Jim with and Thurman didn't play

2181
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 1: in the second half of that game. Corneas Bennett was

2182
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 1: not in uniform. It was like as unit and it

2183
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: was and after the first half of that game and

2184
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: after you know, it was it wasn't a sellout, right right,

2185
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: and it was blacked out. It was blacked out. It

2186
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a sellout, and people were basically they were there

2187
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 1: to say, hey, thanks for going to two straight Super Bowl. Guys,

2188
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 1: it this is not this is not our year, but

2189
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: we appreciate the effort. Thanks. It was great. Uh And

2190
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: then you know we come back and it's like, wow,

2191
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: that was awesome, and that Springboarders it was a momentum shifting. Yeah, nobody, Yeah,

2192
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: it was. I think people would take that this year

2193
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: if it plays out that way. But you know, there's

2194
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: there's some things to fix here. There were some things

2195
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: to fix on that team too. Every team's like that.

2196
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 1: I just thought it was very interesting on Monday when

2197
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: coach McDermott identified the issues that this team is currently

2198
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: experiencing as boulders. He can call him pebbles, he called

2199
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: him boulders. I thought that was very self effacing by

2200
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 1: coach to identify them as real, sizeable issues that they

2201
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: have to fix, and it made me think, well, if

2202
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: he thinks they're of that size, can you realistically fix

2203
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: all of them in one week? Even against the team

2204
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 1: struggling as much as the Jets. I don't know that.

2205
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: You're not trying to fix everything. You know, you're not

2206
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: trying to fix all of them in one week. You're

2207
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 1: trying to fix one. But when you fix them, you're good.

2208
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 1: You're trying to fix them for good. You're fixing the

2209
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 1: biggest ones first if you can, and if you can't,

2210
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: you do what you can with everything else. Certainly, this

2211
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: is a team that has wartz, Like I've been saying

2212
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 1: that a lot this week because of the way they've

2213
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: played the last two weeks and the teams that they

2214
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: played against. But those warts can be covered up or fixed,

2215
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 1: and they've got ways to do it. They've got a

2216
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 1: plan to do it, But it starts first with the guys.

2217
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 1: They do have the guys that are the best parts

2218
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 1: of this team playing better and more consistently. It starts

2219
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: with the quarterback too. Josh gotta play better than he

2220
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: did on and he said as much that first series

2221
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: he had set the tone and they never climbed out

2222
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: of that. I think it's really important for this team,

2223
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 1: particulal Josh at this point in his career to get

2224
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 1: off to a good start. And I'll tip my hat

2225
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: to Brian Table. He tried to give him some easy ones, yeah,

2226
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: and he couldn't hit them, and he was just off

2227
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 1: and then it just and then he never really climbed

2228
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: back into and he made some really good throws, and

2229
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 1: they were never in a rhythm, never felt they were

2230
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: in a rhythm. They never thought like they had any

2231
01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 1: success to build off of. And I think early on,

2232
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 1: if Josh hits a couple of those early throws instead

2233
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: of going incomplete, incomplete on the first three complete, incomplete,

2234
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 1: incomplete on the first series of the game, I think

2235
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: they kind of have a feeling like, well, Okay, we

2236
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: got something here, let's let's kind of keep it going.

2237
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: But they never got to that point. And that's uh,

2238
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's where they needed to get

2239
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 1: earlier than that game so they could get better. And

2240
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: as the game went on, let's say your phone call

2241
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 1: real quick, we go to ed in Auburn. Ed you're

2242
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Thanks for joining us, Ki, Chris

2243
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 1: is Steva. I'm glad to have me under the question

2244
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 1: I got is okay, I'm wonder the problem is if

2245
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 1: the defense is not doing well this year, right, let's

2246
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: say I do with the fans are not there to

2247
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 1: cheer them on. Let's say let's go Buffalo. Let's go Buffalo.

2248
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: Let's third down. And then everybody around me when I

2249
01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 1: met the game sees them, come on, fans, let's go

2250
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 1: third down. We want you d sense du go, let's go. Yeah,

2251
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: that's something well, I would just say that. I think

2252
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: if your favorite caller of the day, I just got

2253
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 1: to say it. You you Whitney call of the day.

2254
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: There you go, good congratulations And I'll say this, Uh,

2255
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: if you're a shouting like that, they may hear you

2256
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 1: from Auburn for the home games. Um, but yeah, I mean,

2257
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 1: they are playing the stadium, they're piping in artificial crowd noise.

2258
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 1: The train horn, I'm sure you can hear on the

2259
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 1: television is playing on third down, which everyone's familiar with

2260
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 1: it attends Bills games, but it is different and the

2261
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,800
Speaker 1: players have admitted as much. And we talked about it

2262
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: after the Raiders game. Quentin Jefferson was saying, Josh Norman

2263
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: makes that fumble recovery and forced fumble. That put a

2264
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: chart in the defense, and they ride that momentum on

2265
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 1: the next two series. They get three consecutive stops in

2266
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. That's the best stretch of play we've

2267
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: seen from this defense probably all season. And it was

2268
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 1: sparked by a big play on defense. Somebody made a

2269
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 1: play and they rode that wave the rest of the game.

2270
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver gets fired up and wins his one on

2271
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 1: one matchup in a fourth down play and gets a

2272
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: stop for a turnover on downs, and then the next series,

2273
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson gets the trifecta sack, strip, fumble recovery and

2274
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 1: the game's over and Quentin Jefferson said, hey, we're still

2275
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 1: getting used to not having that emotion from the fans

2276
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: to kind of lift us up and maybe carry us

2277
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 1: in a crucial spot. And I think you said it

2278
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:47,200
Speaker 1: after the game on Tuesday, Steve, you said, Hey, what

2279
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: would the atmosphere have been like in that stadium in

2280
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 1: a one score game when the Bills have to get

2281
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 1: a stop to get the ball back for the offense

2282
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 1: to try to tie the football game or go ahead

2283
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 1: in what was a six point game there was six

2284
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 1: minutes later different, I'm not gonna I mean, it does help,

2285
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 1: It does hurt when you're on the road. It makes

2286
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 1: it tough to concentrate. It makes it a little bit

2287
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: more hectic on your side of the ball when it's

2288
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 1: when that cheering is against you. And I don't know

2289
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 1: if I can, you know, hand just hand out wins

2290
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 1: to team, you know, to the Bills, just because the fan,

2291
02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 1: if the fans weren't there, If the fans had been

2292
02:00:23,680 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 1: in there on Monday night. But I'm telling you this,

2293
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 1: that place would have been rocking. And I mean think

2294
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 1: about a Thursday night primetime game when it would have

2295
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: been played, when it was supposed to be played on

2296
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 1: a Thursday night going into a long weekend, and two

2297
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: teams that were coming in there for even if they

2298
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: were coming in four in one man, Oh man, it

2299
02:00:44,480 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 1: would have been a lot more fun to watch and

2300
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,440
Speaker 1: would be a part of not as only as a broadcaster,

2301
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 1: but fans even watching at home. You you're in on that, Yeah,

2302
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 1: And that's it's something that the league's missing this year.

2303
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 1: It's been some great football, no question about it, all

2304
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: over the league. But I think it's something everybody misses'

2305
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: seeing that the league had JJ Watt miked up a

2306
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when the Texans had to go

2307
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:08,720
Speaker 1: play the Steelers and they're sitting there in Hinds Field

2308
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 1: on the bench and they're off the field. Their offense

2309
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: is on the field. He's looking around and he talks

2310
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: to the one of his teammates on the bench. He's like,

2311
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 1: this is weird, dude. It's so quiet. Yeah, like you're

2312
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 1: on the sideline in a game. You gotta talk to

2313
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 1: a teammate. You gotta shout in Pittsburgh for somebody to

2314
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 1: hear next to you. In Buffalo, yeah, in Seattle, these

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Speaker 1: places there, it's different. It's cavernous, just different this year,

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Speaker 1: and it's an adjustment for everybody. All Right, we have

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Speaker 1: to take a break. But when we return. We do

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Speaker 1: want to get some of this coaching sound out to

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Speaker 1: you so you can hear where Leslie Frazier and Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable stand on the fixes they have to make on

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Speaker 1: their respective sides of the ball. We'll get that to

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Speaker 1: you next. You're on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio crowd Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: final half hour of a Wednesday edition of One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: You're just joining us the news of the day. As

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Speaker 1: Quentin Spain has been released by the club. It's led

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Speaker 1: to speculation that perhaps John Feliciano is ready to come

2328
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: off injured reserve, but no moves to the roster as

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Speaker 1: of yet. And we do want to bring some of

2330
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Speaker 1: the comments made by offensive coordinator Brian Dable and defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Leslie Fraser to you from their press conferences on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday day after the game. And we begin with offensive

2333
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 1: coordinator Brian Dable, who addressed how they plan on fixing

2334
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 1: their issues on offense, said this many times before. You'd

2335
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Speaker 1: love it to all go perfect. You're gonna you're gonna

2336
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 1: face adversity. You're gonna face games in which you're you're

2337
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: not doing as well as you'd like to do. So

2338
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 1: a family bonds, it's a bond that you have to

2339
02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: create a train camp and throughout the offseason because you're

2340
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: gonna face obstacles, you're gonna face shortcomings, and you're gonna

2341
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Speaker 1: have to stick together when times you know aren't perfect. Um,

2342
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 1: it's a long season. Each game is very important. Um,

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02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 1: you'd love to win them all. Um, this is a

2344
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 1: this is a tough league. Um, You're gonna face times

2345
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: where you just don't get it done. You're look in

2346
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 1: the mirror, fix fix what you need to fix. It

2347
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 1: starts with me, um, and move on to the next week.

2348
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 1: And that's that's the objective, the accountable and that's what

2349
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: we need to do. So he's just trying to say, hey, look,

2350
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 1: it's simple, like Marv used to say, but it's not easy.

2351
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 1: We all just got a band together, and yeah, when

2352
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 1: you get this thing done, when you say play better,

2353
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:50,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. But it's not easy. There's a lot

2354
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,760
Speaker 1: of layers to that, onion. Yeah, So he's right, there's

2355
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:55,120
Speaker 1: a lot of things you can do, and there's a

2356
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 1: lot of things that are going to be working on

2357
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 1: this week, and I when whenever we go through a

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02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 1: tough stretch. When I was as a player, it was

2359
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 1: always about why the mistakes happened. It wasn't so much

2360
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 1: about you did this wrong on this play. Is about

2361
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 1: what you're taught in a certain situation, have the right

2362
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 1: mindset to do the right thing. Knowing the right thing

2363
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:16,320
Speaker 1: was never an issue. Guys know what the right thing

2364
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 1: is to do, but sometimes you don't execute it properly

2365
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 1: for one reason or another, or because you thought one

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02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 1: thing and the quarterback thought another. Those are the things

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02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: you attack as a team and during practice the next

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Speaker 1: week and you fix it up and go from there,

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02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 1: and then you can evolve from there as well. And

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Speaker 1: I think this is an offense too. They're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to come up with something. When these teams, like the

2372
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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and the Chiefs, what I noticed they like

2373
02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:42,880
Speaker 1: to keep a lid on it. They both attacked the

2374
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 1: deep ball. Josh Allen was crushing people with the deep ball.

2375
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,000
Speaker 1: Big plays were a part of this offense in the

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Speaker 1: first month of the season, and those teams did a

2377
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Speaker 1: huge amount of spent a huge amount of emphasis on

2378
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,560
Speaker 1: their defensive game plan, keeping a lid on it. Just

2379
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 1: like the Bills did with the Chiefs. You gotta come

2380
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:01,720
Speaker 1: up the way to come back that and that's what

2381
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 1: they're working on going forward and things like that. Yeah,

2382
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier, after watching the film, gave this

2383
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 1: assessment of his defense and their performance the past two

2384
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:20,920
Speaker 1: weeks and why it was the way it was. The

2385
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 1: one thing you got to do is make sure you

2386
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,920
Speaker 1: don't lose confidence in what you're doing. There are some

2387
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,840
Speaker 1: times where things are giving a little haywire and you

2388
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 1: want to throw out the kitchen sink and start all

2389
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: over again. The message has to be to your players,

2390
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:35,960
Speaker 1: we're going to stick to what we do and make

2391
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 1: sure that we improve one off on the middle. If

2392
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 1: you believe in what you're doing and make sure you're

2393
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: working to correct your mistakes but also working on your

2394
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:45,360
Speaker 1: technique as will. And if you do that and you

2395
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 1: stick to it, the guys will believe and what you're

2396
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: doing and they'll get better over time if you've got

2397
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:54,680
Speaker 1: the right people. But if you need jerk because you've

2398
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: had a bad game or a couple of bad games,

2399
02:05:57,600 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 1: and you start changing this and changing that, and all

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02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 1: of a sudd and the players are going like, what

2401
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:03,880
Speaker 1: are we who are we and you really have no

2402
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:06,800
Speaker 1: identity as you're trying to fix some of those problems.

2403
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 1: So our message is not going to change. You know,

2404
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 1: we've been through some rough stretches before and we've come

2405
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:13,400
Speaker 1: through them and we'll come through the listener as well.

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02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,600
Speaker 1: You think about that, you can't lose confidence in what

2407
02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 1: you're doing. And for anybody who follows a lot about

2408
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 1: the NFL, you're always getting inundated with stuff about, you know,

2409
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 1: the NFC East teams, those big market teams, particularly this

2410
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:27,440
Speaker 1: week Dallas where some of the players were grumbling about

2411
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 1: the club's inability to adjust on the flight. And that

2412
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 1: kind of confidence in what you're doing is exactly what

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02:06:34,080 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier is talking about, because you can't lose confidence

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02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 1: in your philosophy and how things are going to go

2415
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 1: and how we want things to go. Because when you

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02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 1: do that, then you start saying what are we doing

2417
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 1: here and losing faith in your ability to prepare to

2418
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:49,360
Speaker 1: play well, yeah, well you're prepared at all training camp

2419
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:52,320
Speaker 1: to play a certain way and it doesn't work in

2420
02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 1: a couple of games, and now we just throw it

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02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: out in the trash. Right, we can't do that, right

2422
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:59,160
Speaker 1: because I think the coaches know what the domino effect

2423
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:01,360
Speaker 1: can be. Now you're team loses faith in what your

2424
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 1: philosophy in your system is, so coach was asked. Coach

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02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 1: Fraser was asked specifically about the need to go out

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02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:14,680
Speaker 1: and get a space eating defensive tackle to help shore

2427
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:17,160
Speaker 1: up the run front. Here was his response to that

2428
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: started a great job for us in that role in

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Speaker 1: the past. And the guys we have now, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're balanced, They're giving us everything they have and they're

2431
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: going to be able to get to Dune for us. George,

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02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we have to play with the guys that

2433
02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 1: are on our roster and if we need any changes,

2434
02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Bean is always looking at to make

2435
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:38,120
Speaker 1: sure that we have the right guys on the field.

2436
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 1: But the ones that we have are more than capable.

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02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 1: We just have to continue to work to improve as

2438
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,800
Speaker 1: a group at every position, and I think if we

2439
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 1: do that, we're going to get better at the nose

2440
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 1: tackle at all the position. We just got to keep

2441
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: working hard. So it's just a matter of nose to

2442
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,200
Speaker 1: the grindstone as far as he sees it, and part

2443
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 1: of being the defensive coordinator of this team is believing

2444
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 1: in the guys that you have. So he's kind of

2445
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 1: in a position where he has to express faith that

2446
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 1: the guys that he has on his roster can get

2447
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 1: this job done. I mean, these are ultimately the guys

2448
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 1: that this coaching staff picked to go win football games

2449
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:14,960
Speaker 1: when they reduce the roster to fifty three, Right, you

2450
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 1: got to ride with him. Now it's ride or die.

2451
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 1: So that's where they're at. Yeah, and there's there's no

2452
02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:24,839
Speaker 1: question that there are for every team that is constructed

2453
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 1: almost identically to this one, where your talent is here,

2454
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:29,560
Speaker 1: your talent is there, and your depth is here, your

2455
02:08:29,600 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 1: depth is there, your best players are here, your best

2456
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 1: players are there. Whatever, there are ways to win with

2457
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:38,520
Speaker 1: a group constructed like this one is. But you've got

2458
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,600
Speaker 1: to play as well as you can play in every area.

2459
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:44,440
Speaker 1: You can't just say, well the defense as long as

2460
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 1: the defense holds them under forty points or under three.

2461
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's got to be like listen, the offense

2462
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:51,400
Speaker 1: has got to show up and play and they've got

2463
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: to do their part because the offense is going to

2464
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 1: help the defense just like the defense is going to

2465
02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: help the offense. So that the way this team is constructed,

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02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 1: I am sure, I've seen it, and I know that

2467
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Leslie Frasier have seen a Brian Dable

2468
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 1: have seen it. They've got enough talented to ring the

2469
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:10,000
Speaker 1: bell this year, but they've got to get it to

2470
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 1: play consistently well enough everywhere, not just Josh Allen playing

2471
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 1: good like we saw in the first month of the season,

2472
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:20,640
Speaker 1: and even in the Tennessee game he played pretty well,

2473
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 1: but all every place else as well. So you may think, hey,

2474
02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 1: as long as the offense is playing well and Josh is,

2475
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, playing at that MVP level, you're gonna be

2476
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:32,760
Speaker 1: all right. Well, you're gonna have a chance, yes, But

2477
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 1: to win games consistently, you've got to play well on

2478
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and you've got to

2479
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:39,160
Speaker 1: have a playmakers. You gotta have guys rise up and

2480
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:42,480
Speaker 1: play well every single week because other teams are gonna

2481
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: have the exact same issues you do and the same

2482
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of stance that you do. They're gonna take advantage

2483
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 1: of what you don't do well. So you've got to

2484
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 1: be covering that and no matter where your deficiencies are.

2485
02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, we got callers all the time about this

2486
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 1: guy and that guy, you've got to play with those guys,

2487
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 1: and you've got to play well enough. And it can

2488
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 1: be done every single week if you get those guys

2489
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 1: playing at a certain level all the way across the

2490
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:08,520
Speaker 1: board for the best players and the worst players. You're

2491
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:12,680
Speaker 1: special teams guys like me and your Hall of Fame

2492
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Jim Kelly, and your guys like Josh Allen,

2493
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:19,080
Speaker 1: and you know the guys on special teams like Taiwan Jones,

2494
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 1: all the way across your roster. They have to play

2495
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 1: at a certain level, and the coaching staff is responsible

2496
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:26,880
Speaker 1: for all of them, not just Josh Allen and Travis White.

2497
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 1: Gotta get to the tweet sheet brought to you by

2498
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:31,480
Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

2499
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, where we're asking you do you think the

2500
02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 1: Bills can still win the AFC East. There are choices there.

2501
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 1: Here were some of your answers from Jack A. I

2502
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 1: think we can win the division, but Lee's last few

2503
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 1: games have me a little rattled. I felt like we

2504
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything right. Plus Hoodie is still the king

2505
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 1: of the division until we can exercise that team, and

2506
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 1: we can't say he's cooked. So I think we can

2507
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:56,200
Speaker 1: still win, but we need vast improvement in the trenches.

2508
02:10:56,440 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 1: Christian says, yeah, the losses were rough, but they were

2509
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 1: the two AFC finalists from a year ago who are

2510
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 1: a combined ten and one this year. Maybe we aren't

2511
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 1: quite ready to play for a Lombardi Trophy just yet,

2512
02:11:08,200 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 1: but a division title should still be within reasonable expectations.

2513
02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: And finally, from Jeremy, I would have voted other, but

2514
02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:17,839
Speaker 1: the option wasn't available. The other would be the Bills.

2515
02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 1: Right now, it seems they are the ones preventing themselves

2516
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:24,000
Speaker 1: from winning games. Whenever they get over this issue, we

2517
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:26,600
Speaker 1: should go back to September form. I think a four

2518
02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:31,800
Speaker 1: and o complex made them relax. Interesting takes, though, well,

2519
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this about that last thing is interesting

2520
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:35,720
Speaker 1: to me. I don't think it was a four and

2521
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 1: oh complex. I think was the fact that the finish

2522
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 1: line for that week kept getting moved. Sean McDermott and

2523
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:43,600
Speaker 1: coaches around the NFL, they know how to get their

2524
02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 1: guys ready to play. They know how to get their

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02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:49,200
Speaker 1: players ready to play a game. Nobody knows how to

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02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 1: get their guys ready to play a game that doesn't exist.

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02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:58,080
Speaker 1: The Tennessee game didn't exist until Sunday afternoon because they

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02:11:58,080 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 1: thought they were going to go down to and play.

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02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 1: They thought they're gonna play Kcy on Thursday night, and

2530
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 1: the Tennessee game was gonna go away. Then they it

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02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 1: was back on, Then it was gonna go away, then

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02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:08,840
Speaker 1: it was gonna get moved. That is an impossible way

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02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 1: to prepare for it. Plus you're going down to a

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02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 1: place where you've got guys who are concerned about what's

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02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 1: going on in Tennessee. Are these guys, Are we going

2536
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:19,440
Speaker 1: to be the first team to catch COVID on the field.

2537
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 1: All this stuff's going on around this team, and they

2538
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 1: show up and they're a little flat. Gee, I wonder why.

2539
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why football was not the top of

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02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:32,600
Speaker 1: their priority list all week. You can't win games like that.

2541
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 1: So you show up in Tennessee and you turn it

2542
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 1: over three times right off the bat, all in your

2543
02:12:37,600 --> 02:12:41,680
Speaker 1: own end, you can't win. You're done right. So that

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02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 1: right there is a game to me that just reeks

2545
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,640
Speaker 1: of getting the short end of the stick emotionally. With

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02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 1: that schedule. New England's got in the short end of

2547
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:54,640
Speaker 1: the stick too. They had to play the Chiefs without

2548
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:57,880
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and then the next game they played, they

2549
02:12:57,880 --> 02:13:00,840
Speaker 1: did it with two practices in two weeks and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, lost last week eighteen. There's probably a lot

2551
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 1: of teams to go through that, and I'm I'm and

2552
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 1: people will say, well, the Bills had a whole week

2553
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 1: to get ready for. They didn't know what they're getting

2554
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 1: ready for. And that's as tough, tough as anything. It's hard,

2555
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:14,320
Speaker 1: there's gonna be and the Bills aren't the worst case

2556
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:17,040
Speaker 1: scenario the Patriots, or maybe close to the worst case

2557
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:20,680
Speaker 1: scenario of the getting stabbed with the schedule. The Chargers

2558
02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:24,320
Speaker 1: had five games moved around. Ye, it's crazy. Gotta take

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Speaker 1: a break. We'll return with what if we learned? Here

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio for What have we learned? Brought to

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02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:53,000
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We learned today that the Bills are

2564
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:56,320
Speaker 1: going to be short one more veteran on the offensive line.

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02:13:56,360 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 1: They released Quentin Spain earlier this afternoon. And does it

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02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:02,880
Speaker 1: mean John Feliciano gets called up. We'll have to wait

2567
02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:04,560
Speaker 1: and see they're four and two. They are not set

2568
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:08,240
Speaker 1: standing pat They've benched guys, they've cut guys, they're sending messages,

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02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 1: and they're taking it pretty serious. I think Bills fans

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02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 1: should sit up and take notice. We'll see you tomorrow, Steve,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be back with you then