WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Behind the 8 Ball

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys, Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 5>We were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick

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<v Speaker 5>Walker and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Wednesday, March twentieth, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>episode number one hundred and sixteen. Welcome to the latest

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<v Speaker 2>edition of The Break Life from s WBC Mortgage Studios

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<v Speaker 2>at the Star. And today we're talking free We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>free agency here. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Amber.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking for ee agents. Had a little little spill

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<v Speaker 2>then right we went on there. But we're talking free

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<v Speaker 2>agency today, and as I think everybody in the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>media world is talking about because of maybe not what's happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but what hasn't happened, I think. But I want to

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<v Speaker 2>start first with that conversation. I want to go around

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<v Speaker 2>the table and give each of you guys an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>just to give your general thoughts on where the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>sit right now relative to what's happened in free agency

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<v Speaker 2>from the standpoint of the players they've signed and the

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<v Speaker 2>players that they did not sign. Let's start with you, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a rough They're in a rough spot right now.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not a spot they were unprepared to be in,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's a rough spot nonetheless. I mean, I was

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<v Speaker 6>sitting there this morning and I was trying to figure

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<v Speaker 6>out in recent memory, when have I seen a situation

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<v Speaker 6>where you have a combination of lack of outside free

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<v Speaker 6>agents being added to the roster in combination with such

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<v Speaker 6>a hemorrhaging of in house talent going to other teams.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm kind of at a loss as far as

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<v Speaker 6>when recently this has happened prior to this year.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh So they're in a bad spot.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, I like the the addition of

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<v Speaker 6>Eric Kendricks, and I love even better that they stole

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<v Speaker 6>him away from the San Francisco forty nine ers. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>weaken your enemy to make yourself stronger.

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<v Speaker 7>To love that.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's the only outside signing that's occurred because they're

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<v Speaker 6>up against some salary cap crunches. But we talked about

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<v Speaker 6>it last week. I mean, there are triggers that can

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<v Speaker 6>be pulled. They are soft pulling those triggers they pulled

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<v Speaker 6>on on Zach Martin. They did a rework on Dak

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<v Speaker 6>Prescott got about four or five million dollars, but you

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<v Speaker 6>could get more, be it with an extension or full

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<v Speaker 6>on restructure. Nonetheless, but you haven't brought in anyone other

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<v Speaker 6>than Eric Kendricks. You've lost Tyron Smith, which was a

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<v Speaker 6>massive loss. We talked about that. To the New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 6>You lost Durrance. So I'm strong someone that I feel

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<v Speaker 6>has been perennially perennially underrated on this roster. I'm fine

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<v Speaker 6>with loser Tyler Biaddish, but it's still a spot that

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<v Speaker 6>you need to feel now. And I'm missing another guy

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<v Speaker 6>who's my twenty dollars to the Nashville to the Tennessee Titan.

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<v Speaker 6>So I mean, right now, you got Jordan Lewis, wonderful,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a key react with c J. Goodwins, Special teams, Ace,

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<v Speaker 6>Trent cy Geah. Everybody needs a long snapper. But it's

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<v Speaker 6>been wildly underwhelming and they're going to have to really

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<v Speaker 6>start making some splashes. I'm keeping some eyes on a

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<v Speaker 6>guy like Stefan Gilmore to try to at least make

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<v Speaker 6>me feel better about what I'm seeing, because right now

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<v Speaker 6>it's looking real bad.

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<v Speaker 8>H well for me, after you listed all those guys,

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<v Speaker 8>it just feels like we they haven't gotten any better,

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<v Speaker 8>Like it doesn't feel like we're a better team right

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<v Speaker 8>now than when the season ended. So that's my problem

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<v Speaker 8>is we sit here and we start getting expectations, and

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<v Speaker 8>you start saying, Okay, now the expectations are very, very high,

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<v Speaker 8>to the point where literally it doesn't matter why you're

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<v Speaker 8>doing the season. Let's wait until the postseason see what

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<v Speaker 8>they can actually do in the playoffs. But then we

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<v Speaker 8>get to the free agency, and then you start seeing

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<v Speaker 8>and realizing how money tight there really are. And I

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<v Speaker 8>think when Gary Jones went in and made the comment

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<v Speaker 8>about being all in, and that whole phrase took a

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<v Speaker 8>whole like a whole new world like that just it

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<v Speaker 8>got over exploded. And I know he was kind of

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<v Speaker 8>referring to like those bigger contracts and the guys that

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<v Speaker 8>they have in house, DAK PRESCA, cd MICA, guys like those.

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<v Speaker 8>But when you take that phrase and fans take it

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<v Speaker 8>and go along with it and start creating their own

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<v Speaker 8>individual expectations, and then you get to free agency and

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<v Speaker 8>don't see any moves, any splashes. I think it's very

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<v Speaker 8>It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel good. I understand

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<v Speaker 8>the business aspect of it, but right now, if I'm

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<v Speaker 8>being one hundred percent honest, nothing about what's happened makes

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<v Speaker 8>me feel like this season it's gonna have a different ending.

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<v Speaker 8>And I can be absolutely wrong. Free agency is not

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<v Speaker 8>over the season and hasn't even started. Training camp hasn't

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<v Speaker 8>even started. The draft hasn't happened. But it's just it's

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<v Speaker 8>hard to envision a team that will be better despite

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<v Speaker 8>the coaching changes that have occurred. Right now, it's just

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, I don't know. I'm I don't want

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<v Speaker 8>to say this, but I'm not motivated right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, real quick, before throwing Brian, that's what I was

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<v Speaker 6>forgetting Jonathan Hankins expected to sign.

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<v Speaker 7>With the Seattle Seahawks. So you're also losing your one tip,

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<v Speaker 7>all right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the thing that I focus on is that

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<v Speaker 9>it's it's going to put a tremendous amount of pressure

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<v Speaker 9>on the scouts to build their board the right way and.

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<v Speaker 3>To have a draft and last.

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<v Speaker 9>Year and we'll see what the verdict will be on

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<v Speaker 9>this past draft. They didn't get the production that they've

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<v Speaker 9>gotten from players in the past, and that that you know,

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<v Speaker 9>that that in itself, and if you talk to those

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<v Speaker 9>scouts in that room, they'll tell you they've got to

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<v Speaker 9>focus in on. You know, there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of needs that they're going to have to address.

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<v Speaker 9>How flexible are they going to be able to take

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<v Speaker 9>the best available player when they've drafted. By taking the

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<v Speaker 9>best available player, it's worked out really really.

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<v Speaker 3>Well for them.

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<v Speaker 9>They know how to plug and play offensive lineman in

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<v Speaker 9>the first round. That's something that they can take care of.

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<v Speaker 9>But you have to kind of look at where they

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<v Speaker 9>are right now. And I think if you go back

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<v Speaker 9>and look at dead money, you look at dead money

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<v Speaker 9>in some of these contracts. You look at a dead

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<v Speaker 9>money contract of Ezekiel Elliott, you know, you look at

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<v Speaker 9>a dead money contract now soon of Tyrone Smith, Geort's

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<v Speaker 9>Armstrong is going to have fifteen you know, a one

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<v Speaker 9>point five million dollar dead money Kelvin Joseph second round

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<v Speaker 9>pick didn't work out. Dead money right there, almost a

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<v Speaker 9>million dollars right there, you know, So you know, Michael

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<v Speaker 9>Gallup gonna be a dead money. You're gonna get some saying,

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<v Speaker 9>but there's gonna be dead money there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>This is where you know, and I think that to me,

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<v Speaker 9>that's where some of the signings that haven't worked out

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<v Speaker 9>for them is coming back and getting them. Right now

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<v Speaker 9>as we speak that they've you know that some of

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<v Speaker 9>these guys that they put you know, they gave contracts

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<v Speaker 9>two does not is not worked out, and now they're

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<v Speaker 9>dealing with that with the ramfications of that, and I

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<v Speaker 9>think that's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're dealing with also two they've.

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<v Speaker 9>Drafted really well. The contracts didn't get staggered, they didn't

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<v Speaker 9>get the fifth year on DAK. There's just so many

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<v Speaker 9>things playing against them right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Just think if they didn't get the extra thirty.

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<v Speaker 9>Million dollars from that cap, you know, this team might

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<v Speaker 9>be even even worse shape.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>But they're gonna let them draft, and that's the one

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<v Speaker 9>thing that they're really really good at, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 9>gonna be your biggest hope right now.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a Cowboy fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to your point, one of the interesting things for

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<v Speaker 2>me is you look at this, understand what how many

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<v Speaker 2>teams end up in a situation where they're first and

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<v Speaker 2>second round draft picks. When the shades come on, when

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<v Speaker 2>the first and the second round pick quickly in a

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<v Speaker 2>given year both turn into all pros that deserve big contracts, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what happened to them with CD and with

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<v Speaker 2>Trayvon And so it's a great problem to have, it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is a problem because financially now you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do that and then you follow that up with

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one of the best top three or four defensive

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<v Speaker 2>players in the league in Michael Parsons that you draft,

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<v Speaker 2>you know thereafter, right, It's right, it's those kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>things that, like you said, those aren't things you really

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<v Speaker 2>can stagger. Like you you are a victim at that

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<v Speaker 2>point of your your own success. Right, Your ability to

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<v Speaker 2>draft really well now is costing you. And it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to affect the rest of this roster because you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of those really big stars that you've got,

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<v Speaker 2>those all pro type players that you got.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the thing with Dak has been and I

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<v Speaker 9>give Todd Frantz credit. He's he's negotiated very tough. He's

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<v Speaker 9>made it very difficult on Dallas. He's got his guy

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<v Speaker 9>back to the table very quickly after we went through

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<v Speaker 9>all this. So yeah, there's a lot of things, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>that they're having to deal with. But the draft part

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<v Speaker 9>of it is is something that they you know what

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<v Speaker 9>they they don't run away from that, I think the

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<v Speaker 9>bigger problem.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of things too.

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<v Speaker 9>I think fans are still disappointed about what happened in

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<v Speaker 9>Green Bay with that game. The green Bay game, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 9>but I think fans also look at the Philadelphia Eagles.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a similar roster too.

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<v Speaker 9>If you if you ask people around the league, whose

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<v Speaker 9>roster would you rather have? And I think their scouts

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<v Speaker 9>would say, gimme Philly, give me Dallas, give me Philly,

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<v Speaker 9>give me Dallas, Dallas, Philly. You know, it's a very

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<v Speaker 9>similar roster. And then all of a sudden, Philly is

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<v Speaker 9>now churning their roster. And you're going, well, we'll wait

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<v Speaker 9>a minute.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>We were very.

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<v Speaker 9>Equal to Philadelphia, you know, with you look at capicked

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<v Speaker 9>spenditures and paying a quarterback and all this.

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<v Speaker 3>How do they get to churn their roster and still

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<v Speaker 3>have cap space? You know?

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<v Speaker 9>And then you know, and how wee Harry Rosmand the

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<v Speaker 9>GM there he's a kick the can guy. I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 9>but it always seems like he's a kick the can.

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<v Speaker 9>But then again, they're signing four or five guys. I

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<v Speaker 9>think that's where Cowboy fans they don't worry about the

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<v Speaker 9>commanders or what the Giants are doing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 9>You look at the Eagles and like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 9>we got a roster just like theirs. How are they

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<v Speaker 9>have thirty eight million dollars? And I'm sure somebody will

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<v Speaker 9>text me here in the next five minutes and try

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<v Speaker 9>and explain it to me. But that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 9>the thing I think that fans really look at and say,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, how do they how are they able to

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<v Speaker 9>have cap space pay all their players and still go

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<v Speaker 9>out and get players, And that that's something that that

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<v Speaker 9>the question.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>And the question is is that because they're still in

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<v Speaker 2>a position where they can continue to kick the can.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the Cowboys have also been kicking

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<v Speaker 2>the can, they've done it in a different way. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that's all coming due at point now where they've only

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<v Speaker 2>you only can kicked the can for so long and

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<v Speaker 2>at some point you got to pay the bill. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that maybe where the Cowboys are. And it

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<v Speaker 2>may be coming for Philly in the future at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>but for Dallas right now, it looks like that's where

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<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 9>I can't tell you, and I'm not a cap expert.

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<v Speaker 9>I never was, never, never liked the numbers, never, just

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<v Speaker 9>you know, I tried to find players, and however Adam

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<v Speaker 9>and those guys wanted to sign him. Todd wims, you

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<v Speaker 9>guys do that. But I think it's something to It's

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<v Speaker 9>amazing to me, is though, that that we they I

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<v Speaker 9>keep on the radio talking about impending doom for the

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<v Speaker 9>Philadelphia Eagles, and it's never a pending doom, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>And there's gonna be a point in time where I

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<v Speaker 9>can't talk about like up cap Hell, they've paid all

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<v Speaker 9>those defensive backs they lost, all they got, all those

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<v Speaker 9>defensive linemen, they've got one of the best offensive lines.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to pay that. They got a quarterback they

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<v Speaker 3>got to pay now.

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<v Speaker 9>And then all of a sudden, they're adding one of

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<v Speaker 9>the most expensive running backs to their their room. And

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<v Speaker 9>you're going, wait a minute, Okay, that's not very cap smart,

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<v Speaker 9>but but they are adding the best running back to

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<v Speaker 9>their team that's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does come to at some point. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>it happened with the Rams. The Rams went all.

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<v Speaker 4>In and it can do and they had to exactly

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<v Speaker 4>they won a super Bowl. They had to, they had

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<v Speaker 4>to pull it back. They pulled it back and they

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<v Speaker 4>got back in the playoffs exactly. So see, that's I'll

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<v Speaker 4>take that. I'll take that if you if but.

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<v Speaker 9>This to me, I've said this before on several platforms,

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<v Speaker 9>I never see this team being bad. As long as

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<v Speaker 9>they let these guys draft, I think they'll always be.

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<v Speaker 2>Draft will always be the Yeah, they'll always be that nine.

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<v Speaker 3>And eight team.

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<v Speaker 9>They could always be a bad year for them, unless

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<v Speaker 9>something happens injury wise, they'll always be like.

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<v Speaker 3>A nine and eight team. And you know what. That

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<v Speaker 3>to me, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 9>But I you know, the Rams, Sure, Rams went all inn,

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<v Speaker 9>did everything, give up all their draft picks, and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>and now they're you know, they got.

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<v Speaker 3>To a super Bowl, won a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 9>Heck, I'd take that now. If I was a Cowboys fan,

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<v Speaker 9>I would absolutely take that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the timing of it is just horrendous for the

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<v Speaker 6>Cowboys as far as optics go, because if the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 6>had made some semblance of a playoff run, because all

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<v Speaker 6>of this that's happening right now, it's it's likely it

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<v Speaker 6>was inevitable anyway that they probably wouldn't pick up anybody

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<v Speaker 6>from the outside for the most part, that they would

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<v Speaker 6>hemorrhage guys from the inside that would leave for other teams.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's assume that this part that we're talking about

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<v Speaker 6>was inevitable anyway. If you changed the playoff outcome. Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>if you get to the NFC championship and then you're

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<v Speaker 6>losing these pieces, the fans are looking at it a

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<v Speaker 6>lot different. They're like, oh god, well, we hate to see,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, lose that guy, but we'll re up.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll reup in the draft. We got to the NFC championship.

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<v Speaker 6>But when you lose fashion in which you lost at

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<v Speaker 6>home in the playoffs against the Green Bay Packers, and

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<v Speaker 6>then you have not only in action, you're losing. So

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<v Speaker 6>to Amber's point, you're moving backwards every other day with

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<v Speaker 6>the talent you're losing and you're not replacing this talent.

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<v Speaker 6>Brand said they put so much stress on the scouts

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<v Speaker 6>in the scouting department to try to have one of

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<v Speaker 6>the best drafts that you've ever had in franchise that

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<v Speaker 6>all these lookas and the second year guys take these

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<v Speaker 6>massive leaps. That's that's a lot to try to digest

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<v Speaker 6>if you're a fan, and I really, honestly, I think.

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<v Speaker 7>It's too much to ask fans to digest.

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<v Speaker 6>So between now in the draft, I really hope that'd

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<v Speaker 6>rather it be Stefan Gilmore and or a combination of

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<v Speaker 6>a notable outside acquisition. I think the fans and this roster.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Mike Zimmer, he's coming in, he's on a

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<v Speaker 6>one year deal. McCarthy one final year of his deal.

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<v Speaker 6>DA's not extended just yet. I think that there are

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<v Speaker 6>moves that need to be made before the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Ribs, let's take our first break. When we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to talk about is I want to

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<v Speaker 2>really zero in on the conversation around the stars of

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<v Speaker 2>this team. And because when you look at the stars,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to all pro caliber players we mentioned a

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<v Speaker 2>little earlier, my question would be, is that better or

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<v Speaker 2>as good as any team in the NFL. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you have that number of very high caliber players, is

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<v Speaker 2>it just the expectation that you're gonna have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a roster that's gonna have to be filled in the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the way with lower priced guys, which means

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna rely on the draft. And if so, is

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<v Speaker 2>that the right formula. We'll talk about that when we

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<v Speaker 2>come back Dallas. Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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<v Speaker 10>faster than this cheetah that can run eighty miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's roll back the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, second segment of The Break that live from

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<v Speaker 3>At the start, what of the more uncomfortable name of

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<v Speaker 3>a performer?

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, I'm glad you were reading that and not me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say that Yes, we'll keep going, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>keep moving on on that one. Okay, So, as I

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<v Speaker 2>was teeing up before the break, this team I think

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<v Speaker 2>is blessed with a lot of really great talent, and

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<v Speaker 2>quite frankly, when you look at all the guys they lost,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, there's not a single guy in that Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you could have an argument with Tyron Smith, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>really not anybody else in that list. And I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a huge loss. Cowboys. I don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do. It's really the sum of the parts. It's

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, you know, Patrick, it's like you're not

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<v Speaker 2>gaining anybody, but you're losing all these and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these are depth pieces, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>part that's more concerning. But that all being said, when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the level of talent that they have,

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<v Speaker 2>of people that you would consider to be among the

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<v Speaker 2>best at their position across the league, You've got CD,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Trayvon, You've got Dak, You've got Michael Parsons.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a guy like Deron Blames popped on the

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<v Speaker 2>scene and is considered one of the better cornerbacks in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. You've got Zach Martin, You've got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>young guys like Ferguson who are starting to step up, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got talent, and some of that talent is really

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<v Speaker 2>really high level talent. Is this what we're seeing right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just the nature of what happens on a

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<v Speaker 2>team when you have that much high level talent that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to pay big dollars and that forces you

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<v Speaker 2>then to be able to have to fill the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of your roster with cheaper options, which means bargain basements

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<v Speaker 2>and free agents and relying on the draft.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd say yes, it does lean to that.

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<v Speaker 6>The problem I have with it is I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>that they should lean as hard into it as they

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<v Speaker 6>do as far as trying to rely not solely. We're

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<v Speaker 6>not going to say solely, because that will make us

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<v Speaker 6>prisoners of the moment. I mean this time last year

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<v Speaker 6>they had traded for Brandon Cooks and stuff on Gilmore.

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<v Speaker 6>So they've been active in free agency surprisingly so over

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<v Speaker 6>the past several years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just this, although those weren't free agent signings, and that's.

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<v Speaker 7>Different, but action. It was action, though it was action

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<v Speaker 7>during the time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is it wasn't money they were spending

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<v Speaker 2>in free agency, and I think that that's a clear

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<v Speaker 2>distinction that needs.

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<v Speaker 3>To be made.

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<v Speaker 6>I think something you mentioned in the first segment when

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<v Speaker 6>you said, are they now victims of their own success?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that that's going to often be the case

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<v Speaker 6>when you draft and developed so well, but because and

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<v Speaker 6>then being a victim of that success, you're now a

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<v Speaker 6>prisoner of that success, and that you can never relent

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<v Speaker 6>on being successful in that because when those bills come

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<v Speaker 6>due eventually, you might lose this guy that guy, or

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<v Speaker 6>you might have to sacrifice depth or go into barget

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<v Speaker 6>basement shopping so that you can keep Michael plus CD

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<v Speaker 6>plus Trayvon plus Dak plus Zak plus you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Dot dot dot dot doc.

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<v Speaker 6>Which means, going back to the first point, you have

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<v Speaker 6>to continue to draft exceptionally well. And that's what makes

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<v Speaker 6>this offseason a little bit more concerning when you look at, Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>the jury is still out on the twenty twenty three draft,

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<v Speaker 6>We're not gonna put grades on any of those guys

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<v Speaker 6>just yet. But the onus is on those guys like

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<v Speaker 6>the Eric Scott's, de Masi Smiths, the schoolmakers, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Videamijoko for those guys to step up and take on

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<v Speaker 6>a big leap in year, because if they don't, then

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<v Speaker 6>now you're looking at the rookies in twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 6>and you're saying, Okay, well they're not doing it, so

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<v Speaker 6>you have to do it. It's it's so much pressure.

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<v Speaker 6>And the Cowboys do scout will and they do draft well.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you're asking every single one of your draft

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<v Speaker 6>picks to hit from minute one, you're asking too much

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<v Speaker 6>because that's not realistic.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take it a step further than that. How about

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Williams.

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<v Speaker 7>How about it?

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<v Speaker 9>How about Chauncey Golston, Yeah, you know, how about Jalen Tolbert.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I mean, we're focusing on Mozzie Smith and

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<v Speaker 9>these guys like that, rightfully, so, but how about those

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<v Speaker 9>other guys? You know, that's kind of where this thing's

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<v Speaker 9>at right now. You know, I've been waiting for Sam Williams,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, to I mean, Sam Williams is one of

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<v Speaker 9>the most talented football players. And I've laughed about the

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<v Speaker 9>David Irving and how talented if you play a certain

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<v Speaker 9>amount of plays and he makes like six tackles and

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<v Speaker 9>twelve plays. Sam Williams has that kind of capability, but

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<v Speaker 9>Sam Williams will also do some crazy, wild things that'll

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<v Speaker 9>get your beat.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to held back on that the word you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to say, but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was on a podcast, let it fly.

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<v Speaker 9>But the thing about it is, I'm waiting for Chauncey Goldston,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, And I know they keep moving him around.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't figure out if he's an edge or he's

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<v Speaker 3>a three technique? Is what is he? You know? Jalen Tolbert, you.

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<v Speaker 9>Know, I mean I saw little flashes from you from

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<v Speaker 9>last year. The one guy that we've seen that's kind

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<v Speaker 9>of been that guy that is Jake Ferguson. Yes, draft

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<v Speaker 9>Jake Ferguson. Jake, It's like, well, how do you get

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<v Speaker 9>rid of Dalton Schultz.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you've got Jake Ferguson miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 9>Jake Ferguson's the one guy that elevated his game. Well,

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 9>everybody else is like in the deep end of the

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:41.200
<v Speaker 9>pool trying to keep from drowning. So to me, those

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<v Speaker 9>are the guys. It's yeah, is it on Manzie Smith?

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 9>Is it on Luke's schoon Maker? Is it on over shown.

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.200
<v Speaker 9>Is it on forcal Yes, but those guys that came

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<v Speaker 9>before them, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>On them too.

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<v Speaker 8>See with me, I have a big problem that I've

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<v Speaker 8>come to realization.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, they draft really well, and we all know

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.439
<v Speaker 8>that they're really talented at doing that. But draft and

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<v Speaker 8>develop develop What does that mean? That equals time? That

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:19.640
<v Speaker 8>equals to take our time to develop guys. When they

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<v Speaker 8>draft and they've gone, they've gone by during free agency,

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<v Speaker 8>not spending a ton of money on outside people, just

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<v Speaker 8>kind of retaining their own and then leaning towards the draft.

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<v Speaker 8>But every year you get a new roster, every year

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<v Speaker 8>you lose somebody. Somebody leaves this year, for example Tarren Smith.

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<v Speaker 8>Now he's gone, and you have to start. I think

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<v Speaker 8>they lean towards the whole developed part a little too much,

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<v Speaker 8>which then it's not for example, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 8>to explain what I'm trying to say that is clearly

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<v Speaker 8>makes total sense in my head. But look at what

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<v Speaker 8>the roster was at the end of the season in

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<v Speaker 8>we saw a pretty well formulated roster with areas that

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<v Speaker 8>did need improvement. You take that and then you should

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<v Speaker 8>add talent in those areas that you're lacking for example,

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<v Speaker 8>what do you need to stop the run? Get also

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<v Speaker 8>a linebacker defensive tackle, and then but you cannot rely

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<v Speaker 8>on just drafting young talent. That's where I'm going tours like, finally,

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.920
<v Speaker 8>you should be able to make a change in spending

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<v Speaker 8>some actual money. And again it doesn't matter what I

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<v Speaker 8>have to say, because they just don't have the money

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<v Speaker 8>for it. But that's when you look at it and

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<v Speaker 8>change your mentality of things. Or for example, is there

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<v Speaker 8>going to be a hurt guy in the draft in

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<v Speaker 8>the second round that they decide to, you know, like

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<v Speaker 8>those type of things that they decide to to gamble

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<v Speaker 8>on and think, oh, well, we can't and it has

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<v Speaker 8>worked out sometimes, but it's about them now and that's

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<v Speaker 8>the issue. That's what I'm struggling with kind of envision

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<v Speaker 8>how things play out this year because I don't think

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<v Speaker 8>anybody's gonna really be immediate help.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you this, and I'm playing devil's

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 2>advocate here. There were two, in my opinion, there were

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<v Speaker 2>two positions at the end of last season that I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Cowboys gotta do something here, and that was linebacker,

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and that was defensive tackle, particularly the one technique because that,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, was the reason why they lost the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game. Right, they went out and addressed linebacker and

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<v Speaker 2>got Eric Kendricks. They've upgraded their linebacker position, the only

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 2>position on team you can argue they've upgraded. Right, So

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 2>they've upgraded their linebacker position. You got Overshown coming back.

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 2>You've probably feel pretty decent about your linebacker position right now,

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<v Speaker 2>right relative to all the other stuff that's going on

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<v Speaker 2>everything else, you feel pretty good, okay, not pretty good?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So then and the other part to it is, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I don't know. When Zimmer came in

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<v Speaker 2>the door. My suspicion is one of the first questions

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 2>he was asked was what is your plan for Mazzie Smith?

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<v Speaker 2>What is your evaluation of Mazzi Smith? And what is

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<v Speaker 2>your plan for him? My assumption is that the response

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<v Speaker 2>to that made them feel like Mazzie Smith is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the guy good or bad, that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to ride with a as their one technique. True, and

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<v Speaker 2>that being said in their minds again, I'm in the

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, right, So in their minds, in their minds,

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<v Speaker 2>they addressed the two positions that going into the off season.

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<v Speaker 2>We all just agreed were the two biggest positions that

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<v Speaker 2>they have to address.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, if you look at it from through their eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what I'm saying is through their eyes, this is

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<v Speaker 2>how they're looking at it. Is that an unfair way

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<v Speaker 2>for Is that a good way for them to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it? Or what are the problems with them looking

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<v Speaker 2>at it that way?

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<v Speaker 6>The problem with again, I love that they brought in

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 6>Kendricks once he was released. He was one guy I

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to see brought in and they did that. So

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<v Speaker 6>thank you so much for that defensive tackle. Though, until

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<v Speaker 6>you see the until you see Mozzie Smith making the strides,

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<v Speaker 6>it's hard for me to say he's ready right now.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you don't bring in another nose tackle to

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<v Speaker 6>help him out, whether it have Ben Jonathan Hankins or

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<v Speaker 6>another veteran, whatever the case may be, DJ Reader who's

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<v Speaker 6>off the board now, then you're basically saying that twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four is going to be Mozzie Smith starting nose tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>But all of just a second, if if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a first round pick from last year and you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to push him up and do that wrong, you need

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<v Speaker 2>then whoever whoever you would have as his backup isn't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be one of those top line guys. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want somebody that's gonna steal reps from him. You want

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that's a that's an insurance policy. Those aren't the

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>guys you get early in free agency. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>guys you get later. You get those guys in May,

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<v Speaker 2>in June, maybe even heading into training camp. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>what am I missing.

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<v Speaker 7>There in that capacity?

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<v Speaker 6>It's just I think I'm looking at how far down

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<v Speaker 6>the line are we talking about getting that particular guy.

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it a draft pick? Is it a fourth fifth

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<v Speaker 2>round draft pick? Because you can get a pretty decent

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 2>one technique in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a position that's drafted early all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>True, But if you're going to do it as a

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<v Speaker 6>fourth or fifth rounder, then obviously, as you guys know,

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 6>the later you get into the rounds, then the less

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 6>likely that that's going to hit. So you're still going

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<v Speaker 6>to have to address it with a veteran I would say, ideally,

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 6>and if you wait until you know, just before training

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<v Speaker 6>camp and you get a guy, or you get a

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 6>guy in training camp, what what level mercenary are you

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 6>getting in training camp versus what level mercenary you'd get

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<v Speaker 6>in early April or late March.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I mean. So if you even if you

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<v Speaker 7>look at Okay, let's just let's.

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<v Speaker 6>Call Jonathan Hankins because that's the familiar face, right, Even

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 6>if you were able to retain Jonathan Hankins, you could

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 6>have possibly retain Jonathan Hankins with the understanding that they

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<v Speaker 6>were going to push Mossie Smith as the starting nose

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<v Speaker 6>tackle for twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 7>Could I think you could have swung that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know that he would have bought it, right,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 6>that's like you think he would have got you could

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 6>have swung it, because I mean, he's at that kind

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 6>of stage.

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>In his career, right, He's like, if I'm playing, I'm playing.

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 6>But then I think, then what counterstat is is aid

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 6>and dirty looking at him and see I don't saying

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 6>or you could come music.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 2>That's my point, Like he's got a opportunity.

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<v Speaker 6>My question is simply being when would they address that,

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 6>because if you, as it stands, if you go in

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<v Speaker 6>to the drafting, yeah, let's say you use a fourth

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 6>or fifth round pick. Okay, cool, fourth fifth round pick

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 6>that's going to back up Mozzie Smith. But you got

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 6>to assume that fourth or fifth round pick probably won't

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 6>be ready to contribute year one. Let's assume good news

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 6>and they're ready to contribute year two. That's fine, but

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 6>that also means Mozzi is kind of on an island

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.479
<v Speaker 6>because Neville's going. Nevill's in Miami, Okay. Chauncey is going

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 6>to have to have a big year, and it's a

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 6>contract season for him. So to Brian's point, Chauncey, where

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 6>are you at? It's time for you to step up.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 2>He's more three anyway.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 7>So then what you got you got also kind of

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 7>moving back into it.

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 6>I just I don't like the situation as it stands,

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 6>and I depth right, and I wouldn't want the depth

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 6>to be addressed. I wouldn't want them to wait until

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 6>late June early mid July to address the depth. From

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 6>a veteran standpoint, I want veteran insurance behind Mazzi to say,

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 6>you know what, number one to push Mazzi to be better,

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 6>to be ready to be that guy in twenty twenty four.

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 6>But also if whatever may happen and he struggles, you

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 6>can say Okay, well, let's let's mix up this rotation

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 6>a little more to get this veteran guy into me.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 6>Make sure we're stopping the run as we're still bringing

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 6>mazi along. I just don't want Mazie on an island,

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 6>not yet. That's what bothers me about.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 8>I think, Uh, you have too much confidence.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>There no no know what I'm doing. Here's the deal,

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes, and this happens, This happens a lot

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>in the media. There's a certain narrative and then everybody

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 2>just says the narrative. And what I'm trying to do,

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 2>and this is what I want our show to be

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>obviously all the time is I want us to think

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>about things fully and really, if that is the way

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 2>they're looking at it, that I want us to address

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the way that they're looking at it and say what

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>we think can be the challenges for that.

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 8>Which is a fair, fair argument. But it's just I'm

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 8>like Patrick on this one right now, because if we

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 8>sit there, if we watched all the games, we watched

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 8>the whole season, and I don't think personally I won't

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 8>speak for you guys, but personally finishing the season, it's

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 8>not a spot where I feel confident to get to

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 8>give Mazzie Smith that type of response and roll just

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 8>yet because he hasn't proven that. So again, when you're

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 8>talking about the the immense importance and how crucial this

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 8>specific season is for the Cowboys, that's a huge gamble

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 8>and risk that you're willing to take at a very

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 8>very important position on defense.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>That's fair, but and no offense to anybody at this table,

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 2>myself included. If Mike Zimmer comes in the door and

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 2>says Miley Smith can do this. I know he can

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 2>do this, then who are we to say I don't

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable. Well, that's okay, but it's Mike Zimmer. He

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>says he thinks he can get the guy ready. By

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 2>the way, that's what he's being paid to do. If

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.959
<v Speaker 2>that's his assessment, you give him that response, You give

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>him that responsibility and to hold him accountable to it.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>But I would trust his opinion way more than our

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>opinion on the player.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 12>Right.

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<v Speaker 9>I remember a clip on Dallas Cowboys dot Com from

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 9>the war whom Will McClay standing up and fighting for

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 9>Molesse Smith that.

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 3>He could be that guy. If that's the case, they

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 3>need to put Mossie Smith out he could be.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 9>He could be whether we feel comfortable or not. They

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 9>picked Myles Smith. Yeah, they picked him and they felt

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 9>like that Mozzi Smith at three hundred and twenty nine

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 9>pounds at the time, could be a guy that can.

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 9>Yeah at the time, you know, it's impressive how much

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 9>weight he long, no doubt, Like I'm like one of

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 9>my I'd love them to know what he did. But

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 9>you know the thing about it is, though, that's that's them,

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 9>you know. And I'll say this though, they have job

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 9>security over there, and I hate to be that guy,

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 9>but it's true. They're not going anywhere. They picked Mozzie Smith.

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 9>They need to play Mozzie Smith.

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 3>That's the way it is.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>But now Mike doesn't Mike doesn't have Mike Mike. Mike

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Zimmer doesn't have you know what security.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 9>But that's what I'm saying though, And you know what

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 9>Mike is. They can't change everything out. They're not going

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 9>to change it. They're they're they're hoping. They're hoping that

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 9>Mike Zimmer can come in here and get Mozzie Smith

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 9>playing at a high level. That's what their hope is

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 9>right now. If it doesn't if it doesn't work, out.

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 9>Staff will move on, players move on. You have to

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 9>make a decision about Mozzie Smith, whether you know you

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 9>need to do something differently there. But they they they honestly,

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 9>they don't have a choice. They don't have a choice.

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 9>Did you say DJ Reader signed with somebody.

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 7>If the board?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he did too. I thought he signed with someone.

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who, but I thought I thought. I

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 2>saw that I could be wrong. Everything's flying around, so.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 9>I know that's what I was, the same thing, and

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 9>okay with him and A'shawn Robertson was, Yeah, See DJ

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 9>Reader would have been a great would have been a

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 9>great signing for them. They don't have the money to

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 9>sign the sign even to sign a guy like that.

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 9>So to me, it's they they have made their bed

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 9>with who they've drafted, you know, and that's on them.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 9>And they they believe, right or wrong, that Mozzie Smith

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 9>could play one technique in this league. Let's see, we

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 9>don't have confidence. No, we don't have confidence. But you

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 9>know what we're sitting here doing radio. They're drafting players

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 9>and that, and you don't have to believe what they're

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 9>doing over there. But you know what, that's that's that's

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 9>what it is right now. That is, until things change.

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 9>That is the way it is right now.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 8>This is a totally different situation. But just to use

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 8>that as an example, for years Tyron Smith and his situation,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 8>how many times we would end the season, go to

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 8>training camp and be talking, well, have they have they

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 8>gotten some kind of cushion or a backup that can

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 8>be a legit backup for him when he has an

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 8>injury again it has to go out. And many many

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 8>years that wasn't the case, that was not ever the

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 8>case until last year. At times I thought those backups

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 8>did a pretty good job in the way they handle

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 8>when he was out. But it's just kind of going

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 8>to that, like, you know the situation, but how are

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 8>you kind of preparing yourself for worst case scenario type

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 8>of deal or if this doesn't pan out, who do

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 8>we actually have to be able to give some extra.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what's concerning to me, and really quickly, if

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 6>Mozzie did not drop that weight, then fans and analysts

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 6>such as ourselves would probably be more confident in the

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 6>likelihood of him taking step forward in or two because

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 6>then you could say, oh, well, he only needs to

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 6>work on his get off. For example, he only needs

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 6>to work on learning the playbook a little bit more. Okay,

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 6>fair enough, But when you throw into the mix that

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 6>he's dropped so much weight that he now has to

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 6>reapply that weight in order to be an effective nose

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 6>tackle while also quickening his get off while also deepening

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 6>his knowledge of the playbook.

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 7>That's what makes it more concerning. And that's why.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 6>And I'm again I'm not saying that Mazzi Smith cannot

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 6>be an impact guy in this league. I believe he

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 6>can if Zimmer can turn him around and everything can

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 6>come to fruition like it needs to. But there are

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 6>too many variables as we have the conversation working against

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 6>the argument of saying, oh, well, it's Mazi and that's

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 6>what we got. No, it needs to be Mazi and insurance.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I do think that the other thing you

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>got a factor in though, when you talk about that insurance,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 2>is you know, you could get to June. You could

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>get to July and the Cowboys could make a trade,

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>like they may not have a lot of money against

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 2>the cap to be able to go out and sign

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>a free agent, but in the same way they got

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Hankins they can find a team that's like, you

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>know this veteran guy. I don't know if we necessarily

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>want to have the long term, we'd be willing to

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 2>give up that player for a pick, and then you

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>find your guy. Like I think, all I'm saying is

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you that they're going to have to

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>do more from a depth standpoint, But when you look

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>at it from the standpoint of who their starters are

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be day one, I think they feel like,

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>we got the guys that we're gonna roll with, and

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and and right or wrong, they got the guys that

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 2>are gonna roll with, and we'll get to see what

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 2>they can do. I personally think with Masie Smith, I

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>think he overcorrected. I think he's hearing all that about

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I need to get off, get off, get off. Oh

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>if I'm lighter, maybe I get off faster. I think

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 2>too exactly. And I think I think that happened to him,

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 2>And I think sometimes that happens with rookies. They're trying

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to acclimate to the NFL, and they can find themselves

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 2>in tough situations because they're just searching for answers, and

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>if there's not the right coach in their ear, giving

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 2>them the right information and guiding them they will end

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 2>up in a path way off.

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<v Speaker 9>You can watch Chris Jenkins, who's Place three technique for Michigan,

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 9>and he has the same problem in this draft.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Is that a Michigan thing.

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 9>It's a Michigan There's an absolutely thing. I'm sitting there

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 9>watching tape. I'm like, oh, look, Chris Jenkins has the

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 9>same problem as Mazzie Smith had. You know, it's the

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 9>way they play their scheme. You know, it is they

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 9>play a tick late, they read, they react, and then

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 9>they go that's what they do. So, you know, and

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 9>I think I think it really affected Mazy though. I

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 9>think that deep down inside, I think all the criticism

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 9>hurt him.

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 9>I just you know, just you know the way that

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 9>maybe you know, the weight loss, what we're talking about,

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 9>his reaction, just this you know, sudden way of doing things.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 9>I think that I think emotionally he got a little

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 9>scarred by all the criticism of him in this uh

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 9>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what makes me think it gives me at

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>least some hope that you put another another voice in

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 2>his ear that maybe is kind of working with him

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and getting and building him up a bit, maybe they

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 2>can get out of him what they expected. Let's take

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.000
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<v Speaker 2>get a quick scouting report on Eric Kendricks and what

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<v Speaker 2>he can bring to this team and maybe the areas

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<v Speaker 2>that that maybe he doesn't have a lot to add,

0:36:57.880 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>and where the Cowboys may need to supplement that. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk that when we come BA Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, Thank you, Brian. Sure, I love that our team

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<v Speaker 2>looks out for each other. Yeah, I was about to

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<v Speaker 2>head it to Brian. Give me a quick scoutter report

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<v Speaker 2>on Eric Kendricks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably a step slow than what he was in

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<v Speaker 3>the past.

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<v Speaker 9>He was an All Pro for Mike zimmer while back,

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<v Speaker 9>but he's still the thing about I think the flow

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 9>of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way he plays is really good.

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<v Speaker 9>He's not the same guy he was with the Minnesota Vikings,

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<v Speaker 9>but if you talk about a guy that could step

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 9>up phill gaps, take people on, solid tackler. Like I said,

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 9>the flow is there, the movement's there. That getting off

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 9>the blocks, avoiding blocks is there. Sometimes the ball get

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 9>to the edge and he just just misses it, but

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 9>other times he'll make the play. I think he's a

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 9>much better pass rusher now than he is a cover guy.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 9>So I would try and incorporate him more in that

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 9>play in that type of way. If you want to

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 9>bring him as the extra blitzer, I think that would

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 9>be a really good thing for him. I don't know

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 9>how much coverage that you really really want to put

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 9>him in overall, But as far as the tackling, the

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.800
<v Speaker 9>toughness getting to the football again, step laid on a

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 9>little bit. It's not an all the time thing, but

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 9>you do see it happen to him occasionally.

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 3>But still a good player.

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 9>But he one time in his career for Mike Zimmer,

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.439
<v Speaker 9>he was an All Pro player and he could He's

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 9>not at that level though.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it possible that what you're seeing on tape, as

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>far as him being a tick slow at times, yep,

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>could be a result of the fact that that was

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 2>a new system for him last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I just think that.

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<v Speaker 9>I just think there were times where when you used

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<v Speaker 9>to watch Kendrick's play where it was he was already

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<v Speaker 9>to the edge and he was he was he he reads.

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<v Speaker 3>Things still really well. And I talk about the flow

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes the linebackers that.

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<v Speaker 9>Get caught up and stuff. He's he's got the flow down.

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<v Speaker 9>Part of it is where's that burst, that extra little

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<v Speaker 9>burst to kind of close the play out there when

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<v Speaker 9>it gets to the edge. Anything right at him, He's

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<v Speaker 9>going to be just fine at Is.

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<v Speaker 2>He the best linebacker on the scene right now?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, well he knows.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. And and it's a benefit for him too.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, if he would have gone to San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 9>he would been playing behind those outstanding linebackers they have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Bowman's going to miss some time, I would assume, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, probably a little bit, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You said Bowman, not meaning Navar Bowman. I'm telling the

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<v Speaker 2>other who was the other other lineback of that got hurt?

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<v Speaker 3>Law Green Law. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so Bowman was way back in looked at him boom,

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<v Speaker 9>Okay he's been but see but yeah, that to me though,

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<v Speaker 9>I kind of feel like though that him coming in

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<v Speaker 9>here and knowing Mike's system is a huge benefit for him.

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 9>He doesn't have to go and learn completely another system,

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 9>even though he learned a system, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, with the with the chargers there and what he

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<v Speaker 3>was able to do.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 9>But the familiarity has with Mike, the calls, he can

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<v Speaker 9>help others around him. That's that's a benefit when guys

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<v Speaker 9>like when Overstown has a question on why and then

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<v Speaker 9>you know, Kendricks could say, this is why, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>and he can explain that. And whoever else that they draft,

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 9>there's plenty of There's plenty of linebackers in this draft.

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<v Speaker 9>Some of them banged up, some of the amre nicked up,

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<v Speaker 9>but they're gonna pick one. They're gonna pick one here

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 9>and so you know you're gonna have probably a couple

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<v Speaker 9>of linebackers and even Demon Clark is going to a

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 9>young linebacker too. It's gonna have to kind of pick

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<v Speaker 9>some things up too, So having Kendricks here on this

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 9>I think can help overall what they're.

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Trying to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's I was gonna say, he's instantly, instinctually, he's

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<v Speaker 6>your best linebacker right now. As far as just playing

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 6>the ball, he's your best linebacker right now. And Brian

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 6>touched on a point that I wanted to bring up

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<v Speaker 6>really quickly, the ability to mentor as will and help

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 6>these young linebackers acclimate to Mike Zimmer system. I had

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<v Speaker 6>a good conversation with Demon Clark just yesterday about the

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<v Speaker 6>signing of Eric Kendricks and the retirement of lve E

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 6>and like how that works. And you know, Demon was

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 6>very he was progressed well under LV because of the

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 6>mentoring that happened with Leyton Vanderesh And in the absence

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 6>of that, you could see Demon kind of have some

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<v Speaker 6>strong questions. Now you bring in another veteran, another formal

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 6>all pro and Eric n new system and a new

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 6>system who can also, like Brian say, he can sit

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 6>you down, as Demon Clark and say this is what

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 6>Zimmer is expecting, this is your cue, this is your read.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 6>I think that'll help demon Clark take a step forward

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 6>in year three.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Mike's gonna get on these linebackers. He's gonna yell

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<v Speaker 9>at them, He's gonna call him names.

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 3>And somebody's gonna feel sorry for themselves.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 9>And I learned this in the wordy and you just

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 9>kind of fight back, just you know, you call him

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:43.720
<v Speaker 9>an MF or two and then it kind.

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 7>Of works out. Dude.

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can just kind of you fight with Mike.

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.439
<v Speaker 3>He fights back, and then you hug it out.

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 2>And everything, and he respects you because you fought back.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 9>Mike and I used to battle quite a bit, and

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 9>I to this day, I love Mike and I I

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 9>I'll say this, I've said on several platforms, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike,

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 9>come in here and save the day for this team.

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 9>I know the roster and stuff doesn't look bad, but

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 9>Mike is going to make this thing buttoned up on

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 9>the defensive.

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Side of the ball, which is the part that we

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 2>all have been like. Man at times, they just don't

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 2>look like the Bay game.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 3>They look very disconnected football exactly right.

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 2>All right. I appreciate you guys, you honest. We will

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 2>be back.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 8>Oh I was gonna speak to.

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Go amber.

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.439
<v Speaker 3>To say it, damn, it's a dang.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:27.720
<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry, dang, I was gonna say. Listening to Brian's

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.439
<v Speaker 8>counting report, I don't like hearing the fact that he's

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 8>a step behind, you know, and closing in, just just

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 8>because we've seen it before with Layton at times where

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 8>he was just that bit slow and in closing in

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 8>and we saw how much that actually affected that part

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 8>of the defense and in the field and just always

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 8>being just a quick step behind. So don't love that,

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 8>But I do like the fact everything that you guys said,

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 8>the relationship that he has there. He's been what nine

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 8>years in the in the league, so that's a long time,

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 8>and that's good to have someone like that with that

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 8>kind of mix.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I will say this though, quick, real quick. When you

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 2>said it ticks slow, I don't take it as he's

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a ticks slow all the time, number one. But I

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 2>also didn't take it as like I think part of

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.359
<v Speaker 2>that is he's a ticks slow compared to what we

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 2>saw in Minnesota where he was playing at an all

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:16.919
<v Speaker 2>pro level.

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 16>If you think that's the guy, you're not it's it's yeah,

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 16>But the flow, the part of the moving to the

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 16>ball and stuff is when he was at his best, Yes, exactly, which,

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.800
<v Speaker 16>by the way, play at a tremendous level.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 2>You could say that about Tyron Smith, like Tyns Smith

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 2>ain't the Tyron Smith from back long time ago to

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Smith will still play, right, And so I think that's

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the point, Like the dude can play, it's just a

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>matter of not the same guy he.

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 7>Was twenty nine. I want to say I'm not mistaken.

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 6>But I would also say when it comes to him

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.879
<v Speaker 6>being a tick slower, yeah, you contextually put it up again,

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 6>it's him versus him, not him versus right, what you're

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 6>saying in the locker room, the present locker room. But

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 6>also I would tandem him with we talked about the

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 6>mom but Overshown when he's back and he's back in

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 6>full form that we haven't seen him in regular season snaps.

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 6>You saw him in the preseason, yes, speed, he's right there, instinctual.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:04.879
<v Speaker 7>And he has the ability to get over there.

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 6>So I think when you combine Overshown, Prime over Show

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 6>when he's back and he's ready to go, and Dumont

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 6>Clark possibly taking a step forward, and then Eric Kendrick's

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 6>being able to mentor and still play at a high level.

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 7>I think the linebacker corpse is solid.

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 6>It's the dts that we gotta figure out.

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>All right, let me said you guys, jon Us. We're

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 2>back next week and we'll jump back in. We'll have

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 2>more to talk about on the roster and how it's

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 2>filling out and where the Cowboys. We'll talk about next

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>week some of the holes that we think the Cowboys

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 2>really got to focus in on where they got to

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 2>grow here heading into the draft. Until then, for Patrick Walker,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian brought us an Ambergarci. I'm Derek Eiglton. This has

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