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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Ready for a break?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 5: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 5: We were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick

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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, March twentieth, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 2: episode number one hundred and sixteen. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 2: edition of The Break Life from s WBC Mortgage Studios

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Speaker 2: at the Star. And today we're talking free We're talking

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Speaker 2: free agency here. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Amber.

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Speaker 2: We're talking for ee agents. Had a little little spill

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Speaker 2: then right we went on there. But we're talking free

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Speaker 2: agency today, and as I think everybody in the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: media world is talking about because of maybe not what's happened,

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Speaker 2: but what hasn't happened, I think. But I want to

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Speaker 2: start first with that conversation. I want to go around

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Speaker 2: the table and give each of you guys an opportunity

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Speaker 2: just to give your general thoughts on where the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: sit right now relative to what's happened in free agency

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Speaker 2: from the standpoint of the players they've signed and the

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Speaker 2: players that they did not sign. Let's start with you, Patrick.

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Speaker 6: This is a rough They're in a rough spot right now.

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Speaker 6: It's not a spot they were unprepared to be in,

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Speaker 6: but it's a rough spot nonetheless. I mean, I was

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Speaker 6: sitting there this morning and I was trying to figure

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Speaker 6: out in recent memory, when have I seen a situation

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Speaker 6: where you have a combination of lack of outside free

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Speaker 6: agents being added to the roster in combination with such

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Speaker 6: a hemorrhaging of in house talent going to other teams.

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Speaker 6: And I'm kind of at a loss as far as

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Speaker 7: Uh So they're in a bad spot.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I like the the addition of

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Speaker 6: him away from the San Francisco forty nine ers. You know,

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Speaker 6: weaken your enemy to make yourself stronger.

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Speaker 7: To love that.

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Speaker 6: But that's the only outside signing that's occurred because they're

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Speaker 6: up against some salary cap crunches. But we talked about

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Speaker 6: it last week. I mean, there are triggers that can

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Speaker 6: be pulled. They are soft pulling those triggers they pulled

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Speaker 6: on on Zach Martin. They did a rework on Dak

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Speaker 6: Prescott got about four or five million dollars, but you

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Speaker 6: could get more, be it with an extension or full

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Speaker 6: on restructure. Nonetheless, but you haven't brought in anyone other

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Speaker 6: massive loss. We talked about that. To the New York Jets.

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Speaker 6: You lost Durrance. So I'm strong someone that I feel

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Speaker 6: has been perennially perennially underrated on this roster. I'm fine

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Speaker 6: with loser Tyler Biaddish, but it's still a spot that

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Speaker 6: you need to feel now. And I'm missing another guy

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Speaker 6: So I mean, right now, you got Jordan Lewis, wonderful,

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Speaker 8: H well for me, after you listed all those guys,

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Speaker 8: to the point where literally it doesn't matter why you're

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Speaker 8: But when you take that phrase and fans take it

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Speaker 8: And I can be absolutely wrong. Free agency is not

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Speaker 8: hard to envision a team that will be better despite

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Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know. I'm I don't want

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Speaker 6: Oh, real quick, before throwing Brian, that's what I was

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Speaker 7: With the Seattle Seahawks. So you're also losing your one tip,

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Speaker 9: I think the thing that I focus on is that

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Speaker 9: it's it's going to put a tremendous amount of pressure

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Speaker 9: on the scouts to build their board the right way and.

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Speaker 3: To have a draft and last.

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Speaker 9: Year and we'll see what the verdict will be on

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Speaker 9: this past draft. They didn't get the production that they've

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Speaker 9: that that in itself, and if you talk to those

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 9: This is where you know, and I think that to me,

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Speaker 9: that's where some of the signings that haven't worked out

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Speaker 9: as we speak that they've you know that some of

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Speaker 3: I think they're dealing with also two they've.

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Speaker 9: Drafted really well. The contracts didn't get staggered, they didn't

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Speaker 9: get the fifth year on DAK. There's just so many

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Speaker 3: You know. Just think if they didn't get the extra thirty.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 9: But they're gonna let them draft, and that's the one

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Speaker 3: If you're a Cowboy fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point, one of the interesting things for

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Speaker 9: I think the thing with Dak has been and I

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of things too.

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Speaker 9: I think fans are still disappointed about what happened in

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Speaker 9: If you if you ask people around the league, whose

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Speaker 9: Equal to Philadelphia, you know, with you look at capicked

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Speaker 3: How do they get to churn their roster and still

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Speaker 9: And then you know, and how wee Harry Rosmand the

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Speaker 9: GM there he's a kick the can guy. I mean, no,

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Speaker 9: but it always seems like he's a kick the can.

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Speaker 9: But then again, they're signing four or five guys. I

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Speaker 9: we got a roster just like theirs. How are they

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Speaker 9: have thirty eight million dollars? And I'm sure somebody will

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Speaker 2: What I want to talk about is I want to

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Speaker 3: At the start, what of the more uncomfortable name of

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Speaker 2: Ever, I'm glad you were reading that and not me.

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Speaker 6: plus Trayvon plus Dak plus Zak plus you know.

440
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Speaker 7: Dot dot dot dot doc.

441
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Speaker 6: Which means, going back to the first point, you have

442
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Speaker 6: to continue to draft exceptionally well. And that's what makes

443
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 6: this offseason a little bit more concerning when you look at, Yes,

444
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,160
Speaker 6: the jury is still out on the twenty twenty three draft,

445
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 6: We're not gonna put grades on any of those guys

446
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 6: just yet. But the onus is on those guys like

447
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 6: the Eric Scott's, de Masi Smiths, the schoolmakers, you know,

448
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 6: Videamijoko for those guys to step up and take on

449
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 6: a big leap in year, because if they don't, then

450
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 6: now you're looking at the rookies in twenty twenty four

451
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 6: and you're saying, Okay, well they're not doing it, so

452
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 6: you have to do it. It's it's so much pressure.

453
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 6: And the Cowboys do scout will and they do draft well.

454
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 6: But if you're asking every single one of your draft

455
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 6: picks to hit from minute one, you're asking too much

456
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 6: because that's not realistic.

457
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: I'll take it a step further than that. How about

458
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: Sam Williams.

459
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 7: How about it?

460
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 9: How about Chauncey Golston, Yeah, you know, how about Jalen Tolbert.

461
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 9: You know, I mean, we're focusing on Mozzie Smith and

462
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 9: these guys like that, rightfully, so, but how about those

463
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 9: other guys? You know, that's kind of where this thing's

464
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 9: at right now. You know, I've been waiting for Sam Williams,

465
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 9: you know, to I mean, Sam Williams is one of

466
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 9: the most talented football players. And I've laughed about the

467
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 9: David Irving and how talented if you play a certain

468
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 9: amount of plays and he makes like six tackles and

469
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 9: twelve plays. Sam Williams has that kind of capability, but

470
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 9: Sam Williams will also do some crazy, wild things that'll

471
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Speaker 9: get your beat.

472
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Speaker 3: You know.

473
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Speaker 2: I'm glad to held back on that the word you

474
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 2: wanted to say, but go ahead.

475
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: If I was on a podcast, let it fly.

476
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 9: But the thing about it is, I'm waiting for Chauncey Goldston,

477
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 9: you know, And I know they keep moving him around.

478
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Speaker 3: They can't figure out if he's an edge or he's

479
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: a three technique? Is what is he? You know? Jalen Tolbert, you.

480
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 9: Know, I mean I saw little flashes from you from

481
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 9: last year. The one guy that we've seen that's kind

482
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Speaker 9: of been that guy that is Jake Ferguson. Yes, draft

483
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 9: Jake Ferguson. Jake, It's like, well, how do you get

484
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 9: rid of Dalton Schultz.

485
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: Because you've got Jake Ferguson miss a beat.

486
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Speaker 9: Jake Ferguson's the one guy that elevated his game. Well,

487
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 9: everybody else is like in the deep end of the

488
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 9: pool trying to keep from drowning. So to me, those

489
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 9: are the guys. It's yeah, is it on Manzie Smith?

490
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 9: Is it on Luke's schoon Maker? Is it on over shown.

491
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Speaker 9: Is it on forcal Yes, but those guys that came

492
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Speaker 9: before them, it's.

493
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Speaker 3: On them too.

494
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Speaker 8: See with me, I have a big problem that I've

495
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 8: come to realization.

496
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Speaker 3: Now.

497
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they draft really well, and we all know

498
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 8: that they're really talented at doing that. But draft and

499
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 8: develop develop What does that mean? That equals time? That

500
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 8: equals to take our time to develop guys. When they

501
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 8: draft and they've gone, they've gone by during free agency,

502
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 8: not spending a ton of money on outside people, just

503
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 8: kind of retaining their own and then leaning towards the draft.

504
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 8: But every year you get a new roster, every year

505
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 8: you lose somebody. Somebody leaves this year, for example Tarren Smith.

506
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 8: Now he's gone, and you have to start. I think

507
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 8: they lean towards the whole developed part a little too much,

508
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 8: which then it's not for example, I don't know how

509
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 8: to explain what I'm trying to say that is clearly

510
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 8: makes total sense in my head. But look at what

511
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 8: the roster was at the end of the season in

512
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 8: we saw a pretty well formulated roster with areas that

513
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 8: did need improvement. You take that and then you should

514
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 8: add talent in those areas that you're lacking for example,

515
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 8: what do you need to stop the run? Get also

516
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 8: a linebacker defensive tackle, and then but you cannot rely

517
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 8: on just drafting young talent. That's where I'm going tours like, finally,

518
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 8: you should be able to make a change in spending

519
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 8: some actual money. And again it doesn't matter what I

520
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 8: have to say, because they just don't have the money

521
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Speaker 8: for it. But that's when you look at it and

522
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Speaker 8: change your mentality of things. Or for example, is there

523
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 8: going to be a hurt guy in the draft in

524
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Speaker 8: the second round that they decide to, you know, like

525
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 8: those type of things that they decide to to gamble

526
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 8: on and think, oh, well, we can't and it has

527
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 8: worked out sometimes, but it's about them now and that's

528
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 8: the issue. That's what I'm struggling with kind of envision

529
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 8: how things play out this year because I don't think

530
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 8: anybody's gonna really be immediate help.

531
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Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, and I'm playing devil's

532
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: advocate here. There were two, in my opinion, there were

533
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: two positions at the end of last season that I

534
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: was like, Cowboys gotta do something here, and that was linebacker,

535
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: and that was defensive tackle, particularly the one technique because that,

536
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: in my opinion, was the reason why they lost the

537
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: playoff game. Right, they went out and addressed linebacker and

538
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: got Eric Kendricks. They've upgraded their linebacker position, the only

539
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: position on team you can argue they've upgraded. Right, So

540
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: they've upgraded their linebacker position. You got Overshown coming back.

541
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: You've probably feel pretty decent about your linebacker position right now,

542
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: right relative to all the other stuff that's going on

543
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: everything else, you feel pretty good, okay, not pretty good?

544
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: Yes, okay.

545
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: So then and the other part to it is, and

546
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: this is what I don't know. When Zimmer came in

547
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: the door. My suspicion is one of the first questions

548
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: he was asked was what is your plan for Mazzie Smith?

549
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: What is your evaluation of Mazzi Smith? And what is

550
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: your plan for him? My assumption is that the response

551
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: to that made them feel like Mazzie Smith is going

552
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: to be the guy good or bad, that they're going

553
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: to ride with a as their one technique. True, and

554
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: that being said in their minds again, I'm in the

555
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: what you're saying, right, So in their minds, in their minds,

556
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: they addressed the two positions that going into the off season.

557
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: We all just agreed were the two biggest positions that

558
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Speaker 2: they have to address.

559
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 7: Right, if you look at it from through their eyes.

560
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: Right, what I'm saying is through their eyes, this is

561
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: how they're looking at it. Is that an unfair way

562
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: for Is that a good way for them to look

563
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: at it? Or what are the problems with them looking

564
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: at it that way?

565
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Speaker 6: The problem with again, I love that they brought in

566
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 6: Kendricks once he was released. He was one guy I

567
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 6: wanted to see brought in and they did that. So

568
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Speaker 6: thank you so much for that defensive tackle. Though, until

569
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 6: you see the until you see Mozzie Smith making the strides,

570
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 6: it's hard for me to say he's ready right now.

571
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 6: But if you don't bring in another nose tackle to

572
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 6: help him out, whether it have Ben Jonathan Hankins or

573
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Speaker 6: another veteran, whatever the case may be, DJ Reader who's

574
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 6: off the board now, then you're basically saying that twenty

575
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Speaker 6: twenty four is going to be Mozzie Smith starting nose tackle.

576
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: But all of just a second, if if you have

577
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Speaker 2: a first round pick from last year and you're trying

578
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: to push him up and do that wrong, you need

579
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: then whoever whoever you would have as his backup isn't

580
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: gonna be one of those top line guys. You don't

581
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: want somebody that's gonna steal reps from him. You want

582
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: somebody that's a that's an insurance policy. Those aren't the

583
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: guys you get early in free agency. Those are the

584
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: guys you get later. You get those guys in May,

585
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: in June, maybe even heading into training camp. Right, So

586
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: what am I missing.

587
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 7: There in that capacity?

588
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 6: It's just I think I'm looking at how far down

589
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 6: the line are we talking about getting that particular guy.

590
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Speaker 2: Is it a draft pick? Is it a fourth fifth

591
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: round draft pick? Because you can get a pretty decent

592
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: one technique in the fourth, fifth, sixth round, because that's

593
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: not a position that's drafted early all the time.

594
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Speaker 4: Right.

595
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 6: True, But if you're going to do it as a

596
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 6: fourth or fifth rounder, then obviously, as you guys know,

597
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 6: the later you get into the rounds, then the less

598
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 6: likely that that's going to hit. So you're still going

599
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 6: to have to address it with a veteran I would say, ideally,

600
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 6: and if you wait until you know, just before training

601
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 6: camp and you get a guy, or you get a

602
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 6: guy in training camp, what what level mercenary are you

603
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 6: getting in training camp versus what level mercenary you'd get

604
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 6: in early April or late March.

605
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Speaker 7: That's what I mean. So if you even if you

606
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 7: look at Okay, let's just let's.

607
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 6: Call Jonathan Hankins because that's the familiar face, right, Even

608
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 6: if you were able to retain Jonathan Hankins, you could

609
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 6: have possibly retain Jonathan Hankins with the understanding that they

610
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 6: were going to push Mossie Smith as the starting nose

611
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Speaker 6: tackle for twenty twenty four.

612
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 7: Could I think you could have swung that.

613
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 6: I don't know that he would have bought it, right,

614
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 6: that's like you think he would have got you could

615
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 6: have swung it, because I mean, he's at that kind

616
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 6: of stage.

617
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: In his career, right, He's like, if I'm playing, I'm playing.

618
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 6: But then I think, then what counterstat is is aid

619
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Speaker 6: and dirty looking at him and see I don't saying

620
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 6: or you could come music.

621
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Speaker 2: That's my point, Like he's got a opportunity.

622
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Speaker 6: My question is simply being when would they address that,

623
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Speaker 6: because if you, as it stands, if you go in

624
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 6: to the drafting, yeah, let's say you use a fourth

625
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 6: or fifth round pick. Okay, cool, fourth fifth round pick

626
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 6: that's going to back up Mozzie Smith. But you got

627
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 6: to assume that fourth or fifth round pick probably won't

628
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 6: be ready to contribute year one. Let's assume good news

629
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 6: and they're ready to contribute year two. That's fine, but

630
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 6: that also means Mozzi is kind of on an island

631
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 6: because Neville's going. Nevill's in Miami, Okay. Chauncey is going

632
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: to have to have a big year, and it's a

633
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 6: contract season for him. So to Brian's point, Chauncey, where

634
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 6: are you at? It's time for you to step up.

635
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: He's more three anyway.

636
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 7: So then what you got you got also kind of

637
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 7: moving back into it.

638
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 6: I just I don't like the situation as it stands,

639
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 6: and I depth right, and I wouldn't want the depth

640
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 6: to be addressed. I wouldn't want them to wait until

641
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 6: late June early mid July to address the depth. From

642
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 6: a veteran standpoint, I want veteran insurance behind Mazzi to say,

643
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 6: you know what, number one to push Mazzi to be better,

644
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 6: to be ready to be that guy in twenty twenty four.

645
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 6: But also if whatever may happen and he struggles, you

646
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 6: can say Okay, well, let's let's mix up this rotation

647
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 6: a little more to get this veteran guy into me.

648
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 6: Make sure we're stopping the run as we're still bringing

649
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: mazi along. I just don't want Mazie on an island,

650
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 6: not yet. That's what bothers me about.

651
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 8: I think, Uh, you have too much confidence.

652
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: There no no know what I'm doing. Here's the deal,

653
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: I think sometimes, and this happens, This happens a lot

654
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: in the media. There's a certain narrative and then everybody

655
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: just says the narrative. And what I'm trying to do,

656
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Speaker 2: and this is what I want our show to be

657
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Speaker 2: obviously all the time is I want us to think

658
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Speaker 2: about things fully and really, if that is the way

659
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Speaker 2: they're looking at it, that I want us to address

660
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Speaker 2: the way that they're looking at it and say what

661
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Speaker 2: we think can be the challenges for that.

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Speaker 8: Which is a fair, fair argument. But it's just I'm

663
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Speaker 8: like Patrick on this one right now, because if we

664
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Speaker 8: sit there, if we watched all the games, we watched

665
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Speaker 8: the whole season, and I don't think personally I won't

666
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Speaker 8: speak for you guys, but personally finishing the season, it's

667
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Speaker 8: not a spot where I feel confident to get to

668
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Speaker 8: give Mazzie Smith that type of response and roll just

669
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Speaker 8: yet because he hasn't proven that. So again, when you're

670
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Speaker 8: talking about the the immense importance and how crucial this

671
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 8: specific season is for the Cowboys, that's a huge gamble

672
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Speaker 8: and risk that you're willing to take at a very

673
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Speaker 8: very important position on defense.

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Speaker 2: That's fair, but and no offense to anybody at this table,

675
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Speaker 2: myself included. If Mike Zimmer comes in the door and

676
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Speaker 2: says Miley Smith can do this. I know he can

677
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Speaker 2: do this, then who are we to say I don't

678
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Speaker 2: feel comfortable. Well, that's okay, but it's Mike Zimmer. He

679
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Speaker 2: says he thinks he can get the guy ready. By

680
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Speaker 2: the way, that's what he's being paid to do. If

681
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Speaker 2: that's his assessment, you give him that response, You give

682
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Speaker 2: him that responsibility and to hold him accountable to it.

683
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Speaker 2: But I would trust his opinion way more than our

684
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Speaker 2: opinion on the player.

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Speaker 12: Right.

686
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Speaker 9: I remember a clip on Dallas Cowboys dot Com from

687
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Speaker 9: the war whom Will McClay standing up and fighting for

688
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Speaker 9: Molesse Smith that.

689
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Speaker 3: He could be that guy. If that's the case, they

690
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Speaker 3: need to put Mossie Smith out he could be.

691
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Speaker 9: He could be whether we feel comfortable or not. They

692
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 9: picked Myles Smith. Yeah, they picked him and they felt

693
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Speaker 9: like that Mozzi Smith at three hundred and twenty nine

694
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Speaker 9: pounds at the time, could be a guy that can.

695
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Speaker 9: Yeah at the time, you know, it's impressive how much

696
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Speaker 9: weight he long, no doubt, Like I'm like one of

697
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Speaker 9: my I'd love them to know what he did. But

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Speaker 9: you know the thing about it is, though, that's that's them,

699
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Speaker 9: you know. And I'll say this though, they have job

700
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Speaker 9: security over there, and I hate to be that guy,

701
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Speaker 9: but it's true. They're not going anywhere. They picked Mozzie Smith.

702
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Speaker 9: They need to play Mozzie Smith.

703
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Speaker 3: That's the way it is.

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Speaker 2: But now Mike doesn't Mike doesn't have Mike Mike. Mike

705
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Speaker 2: Zimmer doesn't have you know what security.

706
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Speaker 9: But that's what I'm saying though, And you know what

707
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 9: Mike is. They can't change everything out. They're not going

708
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Speaker 9: to change it. They're they're they're hoping. They're hoping that

709
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Speaker 9: Mike Zimmer can come in here and get Mozzie Smith

710
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Speaker 9: playing at a high level. That's what their hope is

711
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 9: right now. If it doesn't if it doesn't work, out.

712
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 9: Staff will move on, players move on. You have to

713
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 9: make a decision about Mozzie Smith, whether you know you

714
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 9: need to do something differently there. But they they they honestly,

715
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Speaker 9: they don't have a choice. They don't have a choice.

716
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Speaker 9: Did you say DJ Reader signed with somebody.

717
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Speaker 7: If the board?

718
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Speaker 2: I thought he did too. I thought he signed with someone.

719
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Speaker 2: I don't know who, but I thought I thought. I

720
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: saw that I could be wrong. Everything's flying around, so.

721
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Speaker 9: I know that's what I was, the same thing, and

722
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 9: okay with him and A'shawn Robertson was, Yeah, See DJ

723
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Speaker 9: Reader would have been a great would have been a

724
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Speaker 9: great signing for them. They don't have the money to

725
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Speaker 9: sign the sign even to sign a guy like that.

726
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Speaker 9: So to me, it's they they have made their bed

727
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Speaker 9: with who they've drafted, you know, and that's on them.

728
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 9: And they they believe, right or wrong, that Mozzie Smith

729
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 9: could play one technique in this league. Let's see, we

730
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 9: don't have confidence. No, we don't have confidence. But you

731
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Speaker 9: know what we're sitting here doing radio. They're drafting players

732
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Speaker 9: and that, and you don't have to believe what they're

733
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Speaker 9: doing over there. But you know what, that's that's that's

734
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 9: what it is right now. That is, until things change.

735
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Speaker 9: That is the way it is right now.

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Speaker 8: This is a totally different situation. But just to use

737
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 8: that as an example, for years Tyron Smith and his situation,

738
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 8: how many times we would end the season, go to

739
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 8: training camp and be talking, well, have they have they

740
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 8: gotten some kind of cushion or a backup that can

741
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Speaker 8: be a legit backup for him when he has an

742
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 8: injury again it has to go out. And many many

743
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 8: years that wasn't the case, that was not ever the

744
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 8: case until last year. At times I thought those backups

745
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 8: did a pretty good job in the way they handle

746
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 8: when he was out. But it's just kind of going

747
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 8: to that, like, you know the situation, but how are

748
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 8: you kind of preparing yourself for worst case scenario type

749
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 8: of deal or if this doesn't pan out, who do

750
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 8: we actually have to be able to give some extra.

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Speaker 6: And that's what's concerning to me, and really quickly, if

752
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 6: Mozzie did not drop that weight, then fans and analysts

753
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 6: such as ourselves would probably be more confident in the

754
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 6: likelihood of him taking step forward in or two because

755
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: then you could say, oh, well, he only needs to

756
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 6: work on his get off. For example, he only needs

757
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 6: to work on learning the playbook a little bit more. Okay,

758
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 6: fair enough, But when you throw into the mix that

759
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 6: he's dropped so much weight that he now has to

760
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Speaker 6: reapply that weight in order to be an effective nose

761
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Speaker 6: tackle while also quickening his get off while also deepening

762
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Speaker 6: his knowledge of the playbook.

763
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Speaker 7: That's what makes it more concerning. And that's why.

764
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Speaker 6: And I'm again I'm not saying that Mazzi Smith cannot

765
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Speaker 6: be an impact guy in this league. I believe he

766
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 6: can if Zimmer can turn him around and everything can

767
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 6: come to fruition like it needs to. But there are

768
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 6: too many variables as we have the conversation working against

769
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Speaker 6: the argument of saying, oh, well, it's Mazi and that's

770
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 6: what we got. No, it needs to be Mazi and insurance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think that the other thing you

772
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: got a factor in though, when you talk about that insurance,

773
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: is you know, you could get to June. You could

774
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: get to July and the Cowboys could make a trade,

775
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: like they may not have a lot of money against

776
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: the cap to be able to go out and sign

777
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: a free agent, but in the same way they got

778
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: Jonathan Hankins they can find a team that's like, you

779
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: know this veteran guy. I don't know if we necessarily

780
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: want to have the long term, we'd be willing to

781
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: give up that player for a pick, and then you

782
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: find your guy. Like I think, all I'm saying is

783
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: I agree with you that they're going to have to

784
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: do more from a depth standpoint, But when you look

785
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: at it from the standpoint of who their starters are

786
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: going to be day one, I think they feel like,

787
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: we got the guys that we're gonna roll with, and

788
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: and and right or wrong, they got the guys that

789
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: are gonna roll with, and we'll get to see what

790
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: they can do. I personally think with Masie Smith, I

791
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: think he overcorrected. I think he's hearing all that about

792
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: I need to get off, get off, get off. Oh

793
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: if I'm lighter, maybe I get off faster. I think

794
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: too exactly. And I think I think that happened to him,

795
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Speaker 2: And I think sometimes that happens with rookies. They're trying

796
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: to acclimate to the NFL, and they can find themselves

797
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: in tough situations because they're just searching for answers, and

798
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: if there's not the right coach in their ear, giving

799
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: them the right information and guiding them they will end

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Speaker 2: up in a path way off.

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Speaker 9: You can watch Chris Jenkins, who's Place three technique for Michigan,

802
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 9: and he has the same problem in this draft.

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Speaker 2: Is that a Michigan thing.

804
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 9: It's a Michigan There's an absolutely thing. I'm sitting there

805
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 9: watching tape. I'm like, oh, look, Chris Jenkins has the

806
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 9: same problem as Mazzie Smith had. You know, it's the

807
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 9: way they play their scheme. You know, it is they

808
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 9: play a tick late, they read, they react, and then

809
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 9: they go that's what they do. So, you know, and

810
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 9: I think I think it really affected Mazy though. I

811
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 9: think that deep down inside, I think all the criticism

812
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Speaker 9: hurt him.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 9: I just you know, just you know the way that

815
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 9: maybe you know, the weight loss, what we're talking about,

816
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 9: his reaction, just this you know, sudden way of doing things.

817
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 9: I think that I think emotionally he got a little

818
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Speaker 9: scarred by all the criticism of him in this uh

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Speaker 9: this year.

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Speaker 2: And that's what makes me think it gives me at

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Speaker 2: least some hope that you put another another voice in

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823
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Speaker 2: and getting and building him up a bit, maybe they

824
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Speaker 2: can get out of him what they expected. Let's take

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Speaker 2: get a quick scouting report on Eric Kendricks and what

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're back, final segment of the break. We

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Speaker 3: Did you get blockchain any credit there?

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Thank you, Brian. Sure, I love that our team

886
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: looks out for each other. Yeah, I was about to

887
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: head it to Brian. Give me a quick scoutter report

888
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: on Eric Kendricks.

889
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a step slow than what he was in

890
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: the past.

891
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 9: He was an All Pro for Mike zimmer while back,

892
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 9: but he's still the thing about I think the flow

893
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 9: of the.

894
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: Way he plays is really good.

895
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 9: He's not the same guy he was with the Minnesota Vikings,

896
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 9: but if you talk about a guy that could step

897
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 9: up phill gaps, take people on, solid tackler. Like I said,

898
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 9: the flow is there, the movement's there. That getting off

899
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 9: the blocks, avoiding blocks is there. Sometimes the ball get

900
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 9: to the edge and he just just misses it, but

901
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 9: other times he'll make the play. I think he's a

902
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 9: much better pass rusher now than he is a cover guy.

903
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 9: So I would try and incorporate him more in that

904
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 9: play in that type of way. If you want to

905
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 9: bring him as the extra blitzer, I think that would

906
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 9: be a really good thing for him. I don't know

907
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 9: how much coverage that you really really want to put

908
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 9: him in overall, But as far as the tackling, the

909
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 9: toughness getting to the football again, step laid on a

910
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 9: little bit. It's not an all the time thing, but

911
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 9: you do see it happen to him occasionally.

912
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: But still a good player.

913
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 9: But he one time in his career for Mike Zimmer,

914
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 9: he was an All Pro player and he could He's

915
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 9: not at that level though.

916
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: Is it possible that what you're seeing on tape, as

917
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: far as him being a tick slow at times, yep,

918
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: could be a result of the fact that that was

919
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 2: a new system for him last year.

920
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: I just I just think that.

921
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 9: I just think there were times where when you used

922
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 9: to watch Kendrick's play where it was he was already

923
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 9: to the edge and he was he was he he reads.

924
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 3: Things still really well. And I talk about the flow

925
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: sometimes the linebackers that.

926
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Speaker 9: Get caught up and stuff. He's he's got the flow down.

927
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Speaker 9: Part of it is where's that burst, that extra little

928
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 9: burst to kind of close the play out there when

929
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 9: it gets to the edge. Anything right at him, He's

930
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 9: going to be just fine at Is.

931
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Speaker 2: He the best linebacker on the scene right now?

932
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 7: Yes, well he knows.

933
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Speaker 3: You know. And and it's a benefit for him too.

934
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Speaker 9: You know, if he would have gone to San Francisco,

935
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Speaker 9: he would been playing behind those outstanding linebackers they have.

936
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Speaker 2: You know, Bowman's going to miss some time, I would assume, right.

937
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, probably a little bit, you know.

938
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Speaker 2: You said Bowman, not meaning Navar Bowman. I'm telling the

939
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Speaker 2: other who was the other other lineback of that got hurt?

940
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Speaker 3: Law Green Law. Yeah.

941
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, so Bowman was way back in looked at him boom,

942
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Speaker 9: Okay he's been but see but yeah, that to me though,

943
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Speaker 9: I kind of feel like though that him coming in

944
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 9: here and knowing Mike's system is a huge benefit for him.

945
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Speaker 9: He doesn't have to go and learn completely another system,

946
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 9: even though he learned a system, you.

947
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: Know, with the with the chargers there and what he

948
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 3: was able to do.

949
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 9: But the familiarity has with Mike, the calls, he can

950
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 9: help others around him. That's that's a benefit when guys

951
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 9: like when Overstown has a question on why and then

952
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 9: you know, Kendricks could say, this is why, you know,

953
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 9: and he can explain that. And whoever else that they draft,

954
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 9: there's plenty of There's plenty of linebackers in this draft.

955
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 9: Some of them banged up, some of the amre nicked up,

956
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 9: but they're gonna pick one. They're gonna pick one here

957
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 9: and so you know you're gonna have probably a couple

958
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 9: of linebackers and even Demon Clark is going to a

959
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 9: young linebacker too. It's gonna have to kind of pick

960
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 9: some things up too, So having Kendricks here on this

961
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 9: I think can help overall what they're.

962
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: Trying to do.

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00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's I was gonna say, he's instantly, instinctually, he's

964
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 6: your best linebacker right now. As far as just playing

965
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 6: the ball, he's your best linebacker right now. And Brian

966
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 6: touched on a point that I wanted to bring up

967
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 6: really quickly, the ability to mentor as will and help

968
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 6: these young linebackers acclimate to Mike Zimmer system. I had

969
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 6: a good conversation with Demon Clark just yesterday about the

970
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 6: signing of Eric Kendricks and the retirement of lve E

971
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 6: and like how that works. And you know, Demon was

972
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 6: very he was progressed well under LV because of the

973
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 6: mentoring that happened with Leyton Vanderesh And in the absence

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00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 6: of that, you could see Demon kind of have some

975
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: strong questions. Now you bring in another veteran, another formal

976
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 6: all pro and Eric n new system and a new

977
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 6: system who can also, like Brian say, he can sit

978
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 6: you down, as Demon Clark and say this is what

979
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 6: Zimmer is expecting, this is your cue, this is your read.

980
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: I think that'll help demon Clark take a step forward

981
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 6: in year three.

982
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, Mike's gonna get on these linebackers. He's gonna yell

983
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 9: at them, He's gonna call him names.

984
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: And somebody's gonna feel sorry for themselves.

985
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 9: And I learned this in the wordy and you just

986
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 9: kind of fight back, just you know, you call him

987
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 9: an MF or two and then it kind.

988
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 7: Of works out. Dude.

989
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just kind of you fight with Mike.

990
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 3: He fights back, and then you hug it out.

991
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: And everything, and he respects you because you fought back.

992
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 9: Mike and I used to battle quite a bit, and

993
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 9: I to this day, I love Mike and I I

994
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 9: I'll say this, I've said on several platforms, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike,

995
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 9: come in here and save the day for this team.

996
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 9: I know the roster and stuff doesn't look bad, but

997
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 9: Mike is going to make this thing buttoned up on

998
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 9: the defensive.

999
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: Side of the ball, which is the part that we

1000
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: all have been like. Man at times, they just don't

1001
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: look like the Bay game.

1002
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: They look very disconnected football exactly right.

1003
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: All right. I appreciate you guys, you honest. We will

1004
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: be back.

1005
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 8: Oh I was gonna speak to.

1006
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: Go amber.

1007
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 3: To say it, damn, it's a dang.

1008
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, dang, I was gonna say. Listening to Brian's

1009
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 8: counting report, I don't like hearing the fact that he's

1010
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 8: a step behind, you know, and closing in, just just

1011
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 8: because we've seen it before with Layton at times where

1012
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 8: he was just that bit slow and in closing in

1013
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 8: and we saw how much that actually affected that part

1014
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 8: of the defense and in the field and just always

1015
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 8: being just a quick step behind. So don't love that,

1016
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 8: But I do like the fact everything that you guys said,

1017
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 8: the relationship that he has there. He's been what nine

1018
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 8: years in the in the league, so that's a long time,

1019
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 8: and that's good to have someone like that with that

1020
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 8: kind of mix.

1021
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: I will say this though, quick, real quick. When you

1022
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: said it ticks slow, I don't take it as he's

1023
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: a ticks slow all the time, number one. But I

1024
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: also didn't take it as like I think part of

1025
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: that is he's a ticks slow compared to what we

1026
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: saw in Minnesota where he was playing at an all

1027
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: pro level.

1028
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 16: If you think that's the guy, you're not it's it's yeah,

1029
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 16: But the flow, the part of the moving to the

1030
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 16: ball and stuff is when he was at his best, Yes, exactly, which,

1031
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 16: by the way, play at a tremendous level.

1032
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: Right.

1033
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: You could say that about Tyron Smith, like Tyns Smith

1034
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: ain't the Tyron Smith from back long time ago to

1035
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: Smith will still play, right, And so I think that's

1036
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: the point, Like the dude can play, it's just a

1037
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: matter of not the same guy he.

1038
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Speaker 7: Was twenty nine. I want to say I'm not mistaken.

1039
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 6: But I would also say when it comes to him

1040
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 6: being a tick slower, yeah, you contextually put it up again,

1041
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 6: it's him versus him, not him versus right, what you're

1042
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 6: saying in the locker room, the present locker room. But

1043
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: also I would tandem him with we talked about the

1044
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 6: mom but Overshown when he's back and he's back in

1045
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 6: full form that we haven't seen him in regular season snaps.

1046
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 6: You saw him in the preseason, yes, speed, he's right there, instinctual.

1047
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 7: And he has the ability to get over there.

1048
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 6: So I think when you combine Overshown, Prime over Show

1049
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 6: when he's back and he's ready to go, and Dumont

1050
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 6: Clark possibly taking a step forward, and then Eric Kendrick's

1051
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 6: being able to mentor and still play at a high level.

1052
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 7: I think the linebacker corpse is solid.

1053
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 6: It's the dts that we gotta figure out.

1054
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: All right, let me said you guys, jon Us. We're

1055
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: back next week and we'll jump back in. We'll have

1056
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: more to talk about on the roster and how it's

1057
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: filling out and where the Cowboys. We'll talk about next

1058
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: week some of the holes that we think the Cowboys

1059
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: really got to focus in on where they got to

1060
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: grow here heading into the draft. Until then, for Patrick Walker,

1061
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Speaker 2: Brian brought us an Ambergarci. I'm Derek Eiglton. This has

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