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Speaker 1: From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop

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Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter number eighty three, Rob Parker. Welcome into another edition

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Speaker 1: of Inside the Parker. I'm your host, Rob Parker. We

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Speaker 1: have a great show for you today. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the labor situation. Of course, will also talk with

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Speaker 1: David Vassay, he covers the Dodgers. And also I'll take

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Speaker 1: you to the studios of MLB Network where me and

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Speaker 1: Christopher mad Doug Gruso got into it. Will do that

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Speaker 1: and much more. Let's go better up to lead off,

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Speaker 1: it's getting robbed to keep him on. Rob's hot take

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Speaker 1: on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one,

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Speaker 1: keep the faith based small fans. I know the clock

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Speaker 1: is ticking, the super Bowl is coming, and there's still

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Speaker 1: no collective bargaining agreement between the UH major League owners

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Speaker 1: and the players, and spring training is supposed to start

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Speaker 1: and pitchers and catchers should be showing up in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and it doesn't sound like a deal

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Speaker 1: is eminent. And Uh, at one point it felt like

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Speaker 1: things were moving in the right direction and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, Uh, not so much. So the two

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Speaker 1: sides are still talking, which is good. The Union responded

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Speaker 1: to Major League Baseball in the latest CBA meetings, so

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Speaker 1: that's good. It's not like they walked away and said

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Speaker 1: And Uh, it has to do with mostly, of course,

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Speaker 1: how to how to divvy up the money and make

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Speaker 1: just going with young kids. And then you know, how

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Speaker 1: And a perfect example, uh would have been Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

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Speaker 1: UM the union UH is receptive to to, you know,

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Speaker 1: the table. So they still work to be done. Some

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Speaker 1: things have gotten hammered out. I'm being optimistic. We have

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Speaker 1: never lost regular season games when there's been a lockout.

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Speaker 1: When there's been strikes, yes, but not a lockout. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold firm. And remember, before the season it

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Speaker 1: was a chance that we wouldn't even have a season then,

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Speaker 1: and guess what it happened. It was a sixty game season.

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Speaker 1: But they figured it out. I believe we'll get something

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games. Number two, the Baseball writers

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Speaker 1: have spoken. The Hall of Fame has one new player,

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Speaker 1: and that is David Ortiz, Big Poppy from the Boston

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Speaker 1: Red Sox. He was the lone player who received seventy

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Speaker 1: and there was a retirement in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Tom Brady retired. And you're saying, why is

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker talking about Tom Brady on his Inside the

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. Baseball has held to a higher standard.

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Speaker 1: First off, if you're gonna go all steroids, why because

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Speaker 1: Manny got suspended four times? How come not to him too? Yes,

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