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Speaker 1: to know where you get your white T shirts? Isn't

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Speaker 1: that a great question? This isn't just a normal garden

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Speaker 1: variety T shirt, people. These are luxury t shirts, which

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Speaker 1: means they cost eleven dollars instead of three dollars and

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Speaker 1: ninety five cents. There is a company called Built. They

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Speaker 1: are not paying a dime, so I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: spend a whole lot of time tizing for them. Here,

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Speaker 1: b y lt Built really good products. Love them. I'm

437
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: not always wearing their products, but most of the time.

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Speaker 1: If you see me in the white tshirt, and that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much all you guys see me in, that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing. I'm not a flood victim. I just choose simplicity.

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Speaker 1: That's not how I want to be known, the guy

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Speaker 1: with the flashy fashion sense, and so far I think

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Speaker 1: I've avoided that. I'm pretty sure I have. As for

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Speaker 1: the first part of this question, the Cover three podcast,

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Speaker 1: that's one that Barton Simmons does with the guys at

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports, really good stuff. I've listened to it for

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Speaker 1: quite a while. They said the same thing I've said.

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Speaker 1: You heard that on the Cover three. Our listeners have

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Speaker 1: heard that too. I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, Notre Dame for

450
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Speaker 1: that matter, Penn State, Michigan, Notre Dame. They all are

451
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Speaker 1: in the same or under the same umbrella when it

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Speaker 1: comes to this. Get an elite quarterback in there. I

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Speaker 1: have compared them favorably their current plight to what Clemson

454
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Speaker 1: was like for a while, good program, but then not

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Speaker 1: taj Boyd. I view them as starting to be truly

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Speaker 1: elite when Deshaun wat came in there and Deshaun Watson

457
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Speaker 1: came in there, and all of a sudden, Clemson went

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Speaker 1: from a nice cute story to WHOA, they're competitive in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter with Bama for a championship next year? WHOA,

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Speaker 1: they just beat Alabama for a national championship. WHOA look

461
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Speaker 1: at all these guys coming to Clemson to play. Now,

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Speaker 1: it kicks a snowball down the hill, you get it

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Speaker 1: right at quarterback, you can get it right everywhere else quickly.

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Speaker 1: That's why, like you said with Tyler Butner, my answer

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Speaker 1: to is he the guy I don't know, I hope

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Speaker 1: he is. JJ McCarthy at Michigan, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: hope he is. And you can find plenty of folks

468
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Speaker 1: to tell you that those are the guys. You also

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Speaker 1: have to watch the transfer markets every off season. I

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Speaker 1: think that'll be more and more a storyline in the

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Speaker 1: years to come in college football. Don't just think because

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Speaker 1: you don't have any big time five star quarterbacks on

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Speaker 1: your immediate horizon, that you don't have any five star

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Speaker 1: talent on your immediate horizon. They just may come from

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech or just picking names out of a hat.

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Speaker 1: They may transfer in from somewhere. And you got a

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Speaker 1: guy who it wasn't even on you. You think Georgia

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Speaker 1: fans were talking about JT. Daniels this time last year?

479
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Speaker 1: Of course they weren't, but yet he is eligible for them.

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Speaker 1: Now Go Blue twelve podcast review. Next up, you said

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Speaker 1: you think Nebraska could surprise people because the expectations are

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Speaker 1: lower a year after everyone picked them and they disappoint him. Similarly,

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Speaker 1: could this finally be the year Michigan breaks through and

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Speaker 1: wins the Big Ten after they failed to deliver when

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Speaker 1: everyone expected it last year. You're gonna need some very

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Speaker 1: good quarterback play, very good to elite. That's where you

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Speaker 1: have to be in that range. So I'll ask you

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Speaker 1: because my answer is probably not. And my question is

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Speaker 1: do they have it with Dylan McCaffrey. Do they have

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Speaker 1: it with Joe Milton? Remember what I said, very good

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Speaker 1: to elite? Does that offensive line and still confidence in you?

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Speaker 1: Right now? I don't see it this season but that's

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Speaker 1: the entire nature of this question. Not seeing it is

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Speaker 1: what could lead to the very nature of this question

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Speaker 1: being validated. And that's the same thing I was talking

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Speaker 1: about Nebraska. A lot of people wanted to pick them.

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Speaker 1: I didn't last year, but a lot of people picked

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Speaker 1: them as this sleeper, and in reality, I think this

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Speaker 1: is the year they're probably more set up to surprise

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Speaker 1: some people than they were last year. Michigan, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they're set up for it this year. It's

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Speaker 1: next year that I would look towards. Keegan in the

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Speaker 1: podcast review best defensive coordinator in the Big Ten, my

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Speaker 1: answer is Jim Leonard at Wisconsin. I don't hear him

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Speaker 1: talked about a whole lot nationally. I think Jim Leonard

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Speaker 1: does a really good job for what they have on

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Speaker 1: that roster at Wisconsin. Other good names there you could

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Speaker 1: answer with it would probably be better off to do

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Speaker 1: a top five, But you give me Jim Leonard at Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that. Next up, Cole in the

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Speaker 1: podcast review section. If you were a prominent head coach

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Speaker 1: and the Oregon and Washington jobs both opened and they

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Speaker 1: offered you those positions, which one would you choose and

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Speaker 1: why I'm going Oregon here pretty quickly, Nike means a

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Speaker 1: whole lot. Brand means a whole lot. Here's what really

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Speaker 1: mattered to me. I probably you know, I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of scenery, so I couldn't go wrong being at

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Speaker 1: the University of Washington. Like I've seen the pictures, that

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Speaker 1: place is awesome. However, Oregon's not bad either. That's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good postcard town. And secondly, I grew up in

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Speaker 1: the South. I know that kids in the South, I

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Speaker 1: know Oregon resonates with them. I don't know that Washington

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Speaker 1: resonates with them. In fact, I know it doesn't, and

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Speaker 1: that's not being disrespectful, that's just reality. There's no reason

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Speaker 1: for a kid who grew up in Valdosta, Georgia to

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Speaker 1: know about University of Washington, and really, on the surface,

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Speaker 1: there's not a reason they should know about Oregon. But

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Speaker 1: yet there is because they have, through Nike in a

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Speaker 1: large part, built and established a national brand. And that

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Speaker 1: allows me, if I take that job, to immediately have

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Speaker 1: recruiting in roads in places you would never expect Oregon

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Speaker 1: in a generation prior to be able to get into.

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Speaker 1: So I would have to go Oregon There Cordy fifty

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Speaker 1: eight podcast review. I thought it was when LSU did

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Speaker 1: not go after a transfer quarterback. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: what Orgeron thinks of Miles Brennan, how far do you

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Speaker 1: think he can carry the program? And if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: pan out, will it affect quarterback recruiting? Also, what do

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Speaker 1: you think about the Scott Lenehan hire the Lenahan higher

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Speaker 1: I love. I'm a big proponent of stacking as many

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Speaker 1: former head coaches and former NFL guys on your coaching

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Speaker 1: roster as possible. You never go wrong doing that. As

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Speaker 1: for Brennan and what Orgeron thinks about him, I think

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Speaker 1: it is a very shrewd observation that they weren't more

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Speaker 1: aggressive on the transfer market. And I can tell you

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Speaker 1: right now, believe me, they had opportunities. Some of you

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Speaker 1: close to that program know exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: They had opportunities. There have been a lot of big

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Speaker 1: transfer headlines out there that LSU could have reaped the

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Speaker 1: benefit of if they wanted to. They didn't. They didn't

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Speaker 1: want to make a move. They and by day really

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Speaker 1: I mean ed Orgeron he thinks he's got his guy there.

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Speaker 1: If he thinks he's got his guy. I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: He knows his roster way better than any of us do.

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Speaker 1: And he's had this confidence, not even quiet confidence, a

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Speaker 1: pretty outspoken confidence about Brennan for quite a while. Now.

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Speaker 1: I've paid attention to that sco to thirty five podcast review.

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Speaker 1: Where I live, high school football just is not followed

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Speaker 1: all that much. What's it like to live in a

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Speaker 1: true high school football town where everyone is fully invested

561
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Speaker 1: in the program? Is football really like a religion as

562
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Speaker 1: they say it is? Yeah, it is. You get in

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Speaker 1: the right parts of the Deep South, you get in

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Speaker 1: the right parts of Texas. It is the heartbeat of

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Speaker 1: those small towns. Here's what stands out to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: in college, like if you are a big time college

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Speaker 1: football fan or an NFL fan, everything about all the

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Speaker 1: teams is public. They all play on TV. Every one

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Speaker 1: of them has a huge internet presence, so you can

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Speaker 1: watch every snap of every game that every team on

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Speaker 1: your schedule plays. In high school, it's not like that

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Speaker 1: even today, it's not really like that, So you rely

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Speaker 1: on word of mouth, you know, like if you live

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Speaker 1: in Norcross, Georgia, and these teams don't play in the

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Speaker 1: same region. But if you live in Norcross, Georgia, and

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Speaker 1: you're playing Peach County, what you're doing is you're at

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Speaker 1: the cracker barrel Saturday morning and you guys in Peach

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Speaker 1: County are talking about Norcross. And I got a defensive

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Speaker 1: end that's being recruited by Vandy and NC State, And

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Speaker 1: they got a couple other ones on that offensive line

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Speaker 1: that have got big D one offers too. Here's the

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Speaker 1: offense they run. Here's what I've heard about him. But

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Speaker 1: all the scouting reports in those high school towns, it's

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Speaker 1: word of mouth. You talk about it at the gas station,

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Speaker 1: you talk about it at the bank, and oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: if you could see what high school pep rallies are like.

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Speaker 1: This is usually Friday afternoon leading up to a game,

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Speaker 1: or Thursday in some cases, cause coaches don't like pep

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Speaker 1: rallies on Friday. These are like rock concerts. It's off

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Speaker 1: the page. They've got pyrotechnics, they got smoke machines, they

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Speaker 1: got lights, they got music. It is like a full

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Speaker 1: blown rock car It's like Kiss comes into town and

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Speaker 1: sets up once a week. It is a spectacle. I've

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Speaker 1: been a part of it. In high school and I

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00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: have seen it covering. It is a spectacle, but it's beautiful.

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00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Everything revolves in those towns around Friday. Every bit. The

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Speaker 1: passion that you feel in the college football world and

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Speaker 1: the NFL world, it exists. It's just smaller pockets, but

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Speaker 1: it exists. If you're in a true high school football

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Speaker 1: hotbed town. They are not kidding you when they talk

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Speaker 1: about last one out of town. Turn out the lights.

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Speaker 1: You know, if your team's on the road, everyone's on

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Speaker 1: the road with them. It is really an amazing thing

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Speaker 1: to witness. Kyle f ninety eight podcast review. If you

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Speaker 1: had to choose today, which program's future are you more

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Speaker 1: optimistic about? Texas or Michigan? Kyle, this is a good one.

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Speaker 1: I'm using this one on the Thursday show. That's about

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Speaker 1: the third time I've said this. Obviously, you guys are

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Speaker 1: writing my shows for me, and that's usually an indicator

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna have good shows. But I'm going to

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Speaker 1: cover this question Texas versus Michigan program comparison right now,

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Speaker 1: which one of my more confident in I'm going to

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Speaker 1: cover that on the Thursday night Late Cack Live. That is,

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Speaker 1: by the way, on the twenty four to seven Sports

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. We're gonna take a quick break. Stay with

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Speaker 1: us because when we come back, Will is going to

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Speaker 1: ask a question on the other side of this ad break,

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Speaker 1: remaining unbiased. How in the world does one do that well? Will?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right after this. Hey, thanks for sticking around.

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Speaker 1: I told you those ad breaks don't last long and

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Speaker 1: they help us pay the bills. Around here, the lights

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Speaker 1: are still on because of those ads, So let's continue.

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Speaker 1: I told you Will had a question, and here it

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Speaker 1: is podcast review section. Your ability to stay unbiased is phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: These are Will's words, not mine. Every host tries to

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Speaker 1: act unbiased, but it's written on their forehead. I've been

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out your team for the past fourteen months,

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Speaker 1: but I'm as clueless now as I was on day one.

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Speaker 1: How do you do it well? Will? It's not really

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Speaker 1: all that difficult. Be unbiased, that's it. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I've got heavy bias. I'm just pulling for you. This

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00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: sounds very corny, but I'm being authentic as I can be.

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Speaker 1: Right now. I'm pulling for you. You're the team, so

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Speaker 1: it's not Auburn or Michigan or Penn State. It's you.

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Speaker 1: I want as many big teams as relevant for as

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Speaker 1: long into the season as possible. I want the big

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Speaker 1: programs rolling. I want everyone winning. Obviously that's impossible, but

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Speaker 1: it's a very simple formula. You got to understand it

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Speaker 1: from a business aspect. You know, when I first got

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Speaker 1: about me. Not important to talk about which teams or

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Speaker 1: programs I'm referring to, but very quickly, you know, the

643
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Speaker 1: first time your team loses a game, the team you

644
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Speaker 1: grew up rooting for, first time they lose a game

645
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: and you come in there Monday and the phones are

646
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: ringing off the hook, and you walk out of there

647
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: knowing you just killed a show. You just knocked it

648
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Speaker 1: out of the park. You realize, all of a sudden,

649
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'd love for my team to win, but

650
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Speaker 1: my team just lost, and I think I just made

651
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Speaker 1: some money off of that. Am I supposed to feel

652
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: dirty about this? And so then you go over time

653
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Speaker 1: and it's not like you don't still have in the

654
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: back of your mind certain teams you pull forth. Sometimes

655
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm very out in the open about it. I was

656
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: out in the open about LSU last year. I was

657
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: on them early in the season, in the preseason. A

658
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, chastised us for it, so

659
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Speaker 1: I was very vengeful all season long. I felt like

660
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: I was riding right along with that orseron. But by

661
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Speaker 1: and large, it's not a it's not a charade. It's

662
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: just you do I'm doing to me what's best for business.

663
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Speaker 1: And it also would be foolish for me to waive

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Speaker 1: a palm palm on the show. Why in the world

665
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Speaker 1: would you want to alienate anyone. But here's what I've

666
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Speaker 1: also found, and a lot of you guys have commented

667
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Speaker 1: on this. Even if you knew, like let's pick a

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Speaker 1: team out of the blue, let's say Kansas, even if

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Speaker 1: you knew I was a Kansas football fan, I don't

670
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: really think you guys care about that so much. You

671
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Speaker 1: care about whether I'm honest and have integrity in the

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Speaker 1: way that I talk about your program, my program, any

673
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Speaker 1: other program. And as long as you have that, it's

674
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: pretty irrelevant who you're pulling for. As long as it

675
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Speaker 1: doesn't affect the quality of the product, and we don't

676
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Speaker 1: let it affect the quality of the product. I've got

677
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Speaker 1: a lot of safeguards against that. Number one, it is

678
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: me rewatching and listening to every second of content we produce,

679
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: and number two, having other people who I trust to

680
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: tell me I suck if I do having them listen

681
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: to everything too. That would be called out in a

682
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: heartbeat if it actually existed, so we eradicate it from

683
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Speaker 1: our content pretty quickly if it happens. Next up, that

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Speaker 1: was a good one. Next up, Steve on YouTube along

685
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Speaker 1: with seventy three Mustang in the podcast review, both of

686
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Speaker 1: you guys asked a version of this question, and the

687
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Speaker 1: question is what would it take to see the SEC

688
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: move to a nine game conference schedule? Well, probably expanded

689
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: playoff for reasons we mentioned earlier, and even then, a

690
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: lot of mind's changing. And while I would love to

691
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Speaker 1: see the SEC play nine conference games, that's just the

692
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Speaker 1: fan in me. I understand it from their point of view.

693
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Speaker 1: I totally empathize with their risk reward. What's the value

694
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Speaker 1: proposition for them? I mean, they already are viewed as

695
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Speaker 1: the golden goose in this sport right now, and they

696
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: are They've earned that. They get benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 1: as they should with an eight game conference schedule, Why

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Speaker 1: would they voluntarily make things tougher on themselves. Now, ultimately,

699
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Speaker 1: you the fan, control this if you stop showing up,

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: and hey, attendance figures have dipped a little bit across

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Speaker 1: the sport. The SEC has not been immune to that. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: if you told them the current season ticket package I'm

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Speaker 1: buying that I'm spending this much money on, I'm not

704
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: getting enough return on my investment from you. Better add

705
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: one more quality game per year or I'm out. If

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Speaker 1: enough people did that, that's where it would come from.

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Speaker 1: But that's probably not happening anytime in the near future.

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Speaker 1: And so having said that, the answer would be either

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Speaker 1: seeing a whole lot of people voluntarily do it, or

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Speaker 1: more than likely it comes when playoff expansion comes, if

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Speaker 1: it comes at all. Next up is lame low Ball

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Speaker 1: eleven probably has commented every show we've had so far,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it just as much now as I

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Speaker 1: did when we first heard from you. Would you be

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Speaker 1: in favor this is the question. Would you be in

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Speaker 1: favor of adding more variables to the college Football playoff

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Speaker 1: ranking system than just the thirteen committee members. I personally

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Speaker 1: would like to see more members, or perhaps different groups

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Speaker 1: of members making separate polls and then adding in a

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Speaker 1: computer ranking like the S and P plus, and then

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Speaker 1: averaging all of those out to create the one true ranking.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with this at all, lame lowball,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it whatsoever. Here's what

724
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Speaker 1: I would want to add. I would want to add.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this in the past month quite extensively.

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Speaker 1: However we do it, I just want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we add an element in to determine true strength

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Speaker 1: of schedule. And what I want to do is I

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Speaker 1: want to involve a Vegas odds maker power rating format

730
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Speaker 1: for that, not to rank the teams. Don't misunderstand me.

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Speaker 1: What I want to be able to do is I

732
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: want to be able to take your schedule and whereas

733
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Speaker 1: a typical polster or a committee member just judges how

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Speaker 1: good your wins are based on your opponent's win loss record,

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Speaker 1: a Vegas format digs a little bit deeper into that.

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Speaker 1: We'll use Texas A and M for example, Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M. Again, like we've said, last year, they lost

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Speaker 1: several games. They played Clemson, they played LSU, they played

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00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: Alabama's insanity. Well, the point is you didn't get a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of credit for having a win against Clemson

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Speaker 1: because they were a four or five loss team, whatever

742
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Speaker 1: they were. And if that same team had played UCF's schedule,

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Speaker 1: they go ten to two, eleven and one. All of

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00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, you get a ton on a credit for

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Speaker 1: playing A and M. Well, what's the reality. They're the

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00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: same team. You're just getting a whole lot more credit

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Speaker 1: for playing them because they played a softer schedule. In

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Speaker 1: scenario B versus scenario A. That's how most humans on

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Speaker 1: a committee or most polsters look at it. That's not

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00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: the proper way to determine your strength of schedule. A

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00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Vegas odds maker understands that, and so the way they

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00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: format their power ratings. I don't want that playing into

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00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: ranking the actual teams. I want that played into ranking

754
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: true strength of schedule. That's my big fight. I'm off

755
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: to the side. Everyone else is fighting about how many

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00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: teams go in the playoff, and I'm just over here saying,

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00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: can we just make sure we understand strength to schedule?

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Speaker 1: Nicole podcast review. I heard you say you're from Columbus, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Huntsville, Alabama, but I moved to Georgia. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever been to Lake Martin? Oh, yes, Nicole, many times.

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Speaker 1: Lake Martin is gorgeous. Now I'm more of a Lake

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Speaker 1: Harding guy, because that's just a lot closer. It's over

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Speaker 1: on the Chattahoochie River. But man, the best memories I

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Speaker 1: have from these places are in this time of year, actually,

765
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Speaker 1: in mid July mid August. We call it convective season

766
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Speaker 1: because those are those afternoon thunderstorms pop up variety, popcorn variety.

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Speaker 1: If you have one, it's cumulo nimbus. But if you

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Speaker 1: have multiple clouds like that, of course the plural will

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Speaker 1: be cumulo nimbai. That's not true, but I call it

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00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: that anyway. So when you have the cumulo nimbai all

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Speaker 1: over the place, and then you'll have a downpour at

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Speaker 1: like three point thirty four o'clock, if you time it

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Speaker 1: up just right and things start clearing up right around sunset,

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Speaker 1: you will not this side of the rocky mountains. You

775
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: will not see prettier sunsets. Then you will down on

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00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: places like Lake Martin or Lake Harding in Alabama and Georgia,

777
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: awesome sunsets, And it really helps sometimes when you get

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00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: those big thunderstorm complexes move through earlier in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Jackson in the podcast review, will you do your top

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Speaker 1: five betting plays every week this fall? Also, are you

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00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: worried college football players may opt out of their seasons

782
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: like NBA and MLB players are yes on the betting plays.

783
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: We've got our own unique way that we do that.

784
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: We've been successful the past six years in a row.

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00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: By successful, I mean well above fifty two point four

786
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: percent against the spread, well above documented by the way,

787
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Speaker 1: not just making it up afterwards. As for the second question,

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Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about guys sitting out in the fall

789
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Speaker 1: if we have a fall season. I am very concerned

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00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: about sitting out in the spring, to the point where

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00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how feasible a spring season would be.

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00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: Next up, Ryan in the YouTube comment section, what do

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00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: you think it's going to take for USC to fire

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00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: Clay Helton? Ryan, I don't know that it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, brother, I don't know. He

796
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: was probably going to lose against Alabama. That's not going

797
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: to happen. Also, we have to keep in mind now

798
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: you have the lack of football revenue to worry about,

799
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: because you either have a unabbreviated season. If you have

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Speaker 1: a season at all and you don't have revenue from

801
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: gated missions and everything that you would normally have in

802
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: a normal revenue generating year, how are you going to

803
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: pass that off? See, this is why I said it.

804
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: If you were going to make a move, you needed

805
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: to do it last year, even though you had a

806
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: new ad in there. President didn't want to make a move.

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00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: I get all that, But I think USC may have

808
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: handcuffed himself to the bedrails, so to speak, because now

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Speaker 1: the plan may have been, all right, we'll make a

810
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: move next year. Okay, Well here's next year, and here's

811
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the set of circumstances that fate has presented you. Now,

812
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: how are you going to make a move? Oh and

813
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: by the way, what if Oregon continues to shine and

814
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: they continue on the trajectory there on they're just a

815
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: rocket ship and they further distanced themselves, And all the

816
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 1: while you're sitting around saying, well, I mean, we can't

817
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: make a move. No one can fire anyone right now.

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00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: I think that may be where USC is Peyton YouTube.

819
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Speaker 1: How long do you believe Alex Grinch will stay at Oklahoma?

820
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: That's the defensive coordinator there, and my answer is, as

821
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Speaker 1: long as he wants to, that's one of the best

822
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: in the game. You'll see in due time. Give them time,

823
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: got to overhaul that defensive roster. What I don't know

824
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: about Alex Grinch is what his future plans are for

825
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: his career. You know, most people eventually have head coaching aspirations.

826
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Speaker 1: So I think Alex Grinch is at Oklahoma as long

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00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: as he is not a head coach. And that's a

828
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: guy imagine imagine his value, Like if he turns Oklahoma

829
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: into a top fifteen defensive unit you're in year out?

830
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: What is he worth? What price is too high for you? Sooner, fans,

831
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Speaker 1: if I could tell you, I'm going to give you

832
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to put a top twenty product

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00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: on the field, Top fifteen, top twenty, he doesn't have

834
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Speaker 1: to be top ten with what you can do offensively.

835
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Speaker 1: How much would you pay for that? How much wouldn't

836
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Speaker 1: you pay for that? Kat Train and the email inbox.

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Speaker 1: What college football programs recently or in the past have

838
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: overachieved the most really good question. We're going to put

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Speaker 1: this on the Sunday night Late Kick Live, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, He's on the twenty four seventh sports YouTube

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Speaker 1: Channe Marketing, Baby Marketing Next up, Wesley, email in box.

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Speaker 1: You've mentioned in a number of your earlier shows that

843
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: Georgia has been one elite quarterback away from beating Alabama

844
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: and winning a national title. Yet they had an elite

845
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: quarterback and Justin Fields for a year who proceeded to

846
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: transfer to Ohio State and led them to the playoffs.

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00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: I know Jake from brought a lot of leadership to

848
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: the Georgia locker room, but why do you think Georgia

849
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: didn't turn to Justin Fields? Wesley. I was filling in

850
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: for Barton Simmons, who congratulations, by the way, just had

851
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: a little girl, and I was filling in for him

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Speaker 1: on the Barton and Bud podcast with Bud Elliott. We

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00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: recorded that today, which is Tuesday, and we went really

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Speaker 1: in depth on this. I would encourage you to go

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Speaker 1: check that out. I mean, honestly, what else do we

856
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: have to do right now? We're killing time each and

857
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Speaker 1: all of us. And we didn't really intend to dive

858
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Speaker 1: deep on this, but we ended up doing it anyway.

859
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Speaker 1: There are several factors. Several factors we talked about comparing

860
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Speaker 1: the Jake from Justin Field's situation battle whatever you want

861
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Speaker 1: to call it, which looks so clear now, we compared

862
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Speaker 1: it to the Jacob Coker Jamis Winston quarterback battle at

863
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: Florida State a few years back. Jameis Winston goes on

864
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: to lead Florida State undefeated to a national title. But

865
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher had told several people and the media too

866
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Speaker 1: leading up to that season it was a neck and

867
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Speaker 1: neck battle Jacob Coker and Jamis Winston. Now, at the

868
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: end of the year, everyone looked at Jameis Winston and

869
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: they said, wait a second, Jacob Cocher was you were

870
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Speaker 1: comparing him with this guy? Look at how great Jameis

871
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Winston is. Yeah, but here's the thing about that. That's

872
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: what the benefit of hindsight. Coaches don't get the benefit

873
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: of hindsight. They don't get to see how the decision

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Speaker 1: would turn out before they make the decision. So I'm

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Speaker 1: never one to second guess. Because now we fast forward

876
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Speaker 1: to the from Fields deal. I'm with you, I see

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Speaker 1: what you saw last year. I see that Justin Field's

878
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 1: ceiling was infinitely higher and his potential is infinitely great

879
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: than Jake From. I see that. I think I saw

880
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: it back then. But potential and being able to have

881
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: it validate on a football field two different things. And

882
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: so I'm not telling you Fields wouldn't have shined at Georgia.

883
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is, I remember some of my

884
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Speaker 1: Georgia buddies must step up some toes here. As I

885
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Speaker 1: told Bud, I remember some of my Georgia buddies back

886
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: when this was going on, and they were more than

887
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Speaker 1: happy to traffic in the message board rumor community about

888
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields and he had a maybe a character concern.

889
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: There's just something that everyone knows but no one can

890
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: tell anyone else about him. That's keeping him off the

891
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: field and is the reason Jake From is our starter.

892
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: And those same people now are willing to bash Kirby

893
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: Smart over it. I'm not having that. Okay, you don't

894
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: get that. You don't get to play both sides of

895
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: the coin. Anyone looks like a genius when they have

896
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: hindsight on their side and when they get to play

897
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: both sides of the coin. No, No, that's why, with

898
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Speaker 1: all due respect, that's why you're paying for a ticket

899
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: instead of people paying tickets to see you coach. So

900
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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's not immune from criticism. He didn't need me

901
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: to stand up for him. What I'm saying is that's

902
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Speaker 1: part of it, and the other part is this. I

903
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: don't know what was going on behind the scenes, but

904
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Speaker 1: I do know Kirby Smart had been wired a certain

905
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: way at Alabama. Alabama under Nick Saban, during Kirby Smart's tenure,

906
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: there had a very risk averse attitude at quarterback. That's

907
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: where you got that whole game manager Moniker from. It's

908
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: because Nick Saban played guys that weren't going to lose

909
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: him games, knowing he had a superior roster and he could.

910
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: He didn't need a quarterback to carry his team on

911
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: his shoulders. In fact, he viewed that as a weakness

912
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: because it was a stress point. He didn't he didn't

913
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: want to make his team so vulnerable that one injury

914
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback could derail everything. No, he wanted a guy

915
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: good enough. He wanted a formula where several guys were

916
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: capable of pulling off what Alabama needed to have it.

917
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: Quarterback Kirby Smart saw all that stuff, and he thought

918
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Speaker 1: he was going to go to Georgia and build Alabama

919
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: East and then he started to and so imagine him.

920
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: Jacob Eason goes down. Remember how this played out. Jacob

921
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: Eason goes down Week one, twenty sixteen, seventeen, which one

922
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: was that? And then Jake it was seventeen. Jake from

923
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: comes in and they take him on the road to

924
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I was at that game in South Bend

925
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: and they went it pretty dramatic fashion. And what you

926
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: have to be thinking is, Okay, we just saw this

927
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: guy's absolute floor. We weren't even planning on playing him

928
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: this year, and he came in and got us to

929
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: a national championship game. It's reasonable to expect that he

930
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: will progress twenty thirty percent. Year two, year three. It

931
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: just didn't happen. It didn't happen the way that they

932
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: thought it would, and justin fields, as it turns out,

933
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: ends up transferring out and he's a stud. That's the

934
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: way it goes. But the point is, if you're going

935
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: to make a call on this stuff, make a call

936
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: when it happens. If you were vocal criticizing them when

937
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: they first made the decision, I'm fine with it, but

938
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: I won't be a guy who backs the decision and

939
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: then when the decision doesn't work out, criticizes the decision.

940
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: I'm not on board with that, Ti Eric email in box.

941
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: Hypothetical scenario urban Meyer is looking to be a head

942
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: coach again. Hypothetical. By the way, that's what he said, hypothetical.

943
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Let's say urban Meyer is looking to be a head

944
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: coach again. Both USC and Texas are open. Which job

945
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: do you think Urban takes and which job do you take?

946
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm taking Texas. That's nothing against SoCal. I'm just more

947
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 1: of a Texas guy than a SoCal guy. I also

948
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: don't love paying taxes. I'm okay with paying them, but

949
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: you gotta love paying them to go to Southern California.

950
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: I don't love paying a taxes. I just kind of

951
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: do it. So I'll take the Texas job because of that.

952
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: I just culturally, I mean, it's a better fit for

953
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: me In Texas. I don't like traffic. I hate it,

954
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: and so I need to be out in the open.

955
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: I need to be able to within a ten or

956
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: fifteen minute drive be out in the middle of nowhere,

957
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know that I can do that in

958
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: southern California. However, most people are not like that. Most

959
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: people are not hermits. Most people do not mind that.

960
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: Most people would be attracted to the lifestyle that you

961
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: can live in southern California. So I don't knock that.

962
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: And I love visiting California. I've been there several times.

963
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: But notice what I said, visiting, I enjoy visiting. And

964
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: so with all that being said, I don't know. I

965
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: have no clue. I talked to Urban Meyer a couple

966
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: of months ago for twenty thirty minutes. This didn't really

967
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: come up if you want to see that. By the way,

968
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: it's still on the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel.

969
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't get any sense about his lean one way

970
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: or the other on that. It's a good one though.

971
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh here's another good one. I am leading the Sunday

972
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: Show with this question David email inbox. It was a

973
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: linky email, but by and large here with the question

974
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: why do so many SEC fans loathe Gary Danielson and

975
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of you do. Look at you shaking your

976
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: heads right now. I see you there in the truck,

977
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: I see you on the lawnmower, shaking your head like

978
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: you're a bobblehead. You know what you all pick on?

979
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: Gary Danielson too much, and I will defend this man's

980
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: honor Sunday night as much as someone not related to

981
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: him will defend his honor. I've got some feelings on

982
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: Gary Danielson. I got some feelings on him. He doesn't

983
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: need me to stand up for him either, but I've

984
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: always had some feelings about Gary Danielson. At least, let

985
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: me rephrase, I've had strong opinions about Gary Danielson. Here

986
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: we go, all right, feelings erased Colin on Twitter. Less

987
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: than ten years ago, the PAC twelve was ahead of

988
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: the Big twelve and ACC thanks to depth outside of

989
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: Oregon and Stanford. What is the second tier of the

990
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: PAC twelve, outside of obviously marquee wins by USC and

991
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Oregon need to do to bring back public perception in

992
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: the conference? Colin, There is no easy answer to this, brother,

993
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: because here's what the second tier of the PAC twelve

994
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: has to do to catch up in perception. They've got

995
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: to make upgrades to compete with programs. Eoltswere in college

996
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: football cashing checks two to three times per year as

997
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: big as the ones they're cashing. Think about being Utah

998
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: and watching Ole Miss cash that SEC paycheck every year.

999
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about here? Like it

1000
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: from a revenue From a financial standpoint, it's like we're

1001
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: not even playing the same sport. It's great to talk

1002
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: about what we want to do, but I mean, all

1003
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: of it costs money, and that's ultimately the big concern.

1004
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: It's the big concern with all the complaints out West

1005
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: when you hear him talk about the PAC twelve network

1006
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: and the risk that was taken there that they don't

1007
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: feel has paid off. And there's just been a lot

1008
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: of decisions that have gone sideways, and there are a

1009
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: lot of concerns pre COVID about the direction of that

1010
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: conference and the trajectory they're on relative to the SEC

1011
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: in Big ten. And that's before the next round of

1012
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: TV deals come up. So the answer, Colin is, I

1013
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: don't know on a long term basis anything in any

1014
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: given year, but on a long term basis, I don't

1015
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: know what the answer is there. All right, really good

1016
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: stuff there. I sped up the tempo a little bit

1017
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: to get more questions in and Tony, who is editing

1018
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: this before you hear it, I think that worked, brother,

1019
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: So again a reminders, it's just a nice, very subtle

1020
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: but very passionate request for you give us those five

1021
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: star reviews and leave us written comments. The best way

1022
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: to submit questions. I don't think I said it on

1023
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: the front end in the actual podcast review, just you know,

1024
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: instead of saying, hey, great show or you suck, you're terrible,

1025
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: say that either way. I'm fine, but also attach a

1026
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: question to it. That's a good way. Josh paid seven

1027
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com. I'm happy to correspond

1028
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: with you guys about anything, and I'll tell you this too,

1029
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: and I welcome this. A lot of you are college age.

1030
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: We have a lot of young kids who listen to

1031
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: our show. A lot of you are graphic designers, a

1032
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: lot of you are writers. A lot of you have

1033
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: a passion for and have an eye for wanting to

1034
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: be involved in this business. You reach out to me

1035
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: eight days out of the week if you want to.

1036
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you I have opportunities for any of you,

1037
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: but it never hurts to establish correspondence and reach out.

1038
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: So I'm always happy to talk to you guys. I've

1039
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: this week alone been on zoom calls, just on my

1040
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: own free time with a bunch of college kids, just

1041
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: talking about career advice and just answering questions. I'll gather

1042
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: about four or five of you and i'll set a

1043
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: time once we gather about four or five that have

1044
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: asked to do it, and I just have zoom conferences

1045
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: with you and I'm happy to answer your questions as

1046
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: long as my battery stays charged. So that's another way

1047
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: to get in touch with me. Twitter is always open

1048
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh. Really happy to see you guys.

1049
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: Give me a follow there you can submit questions. My

1050
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: dms are open whether you follow me or not, or

1051
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: you can submit questions on the YouTube channel and the

1052
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: comment section under every episode of Late Kick Live. There

1053
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: is a pen comment. It says, reply to this comment

1054
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: with questions for the podcast. You can get me there too.

1055
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: I got to get to bed. We got a busy

1056
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: day tomorrow about the time you're listening to this, I'll

1057
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: be doing forty seven interviews and shows and everything else

1058
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Speaker 1: under the sun. However, could be worse. I could have

1059
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: to do real work, and so I'm happy to do

1060
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Speaker 1: this instead and really happy that you've taken the time

1061
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Speaker 1: to listen. Really appreciate the traction and the traffic that

1062
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Speaker 1: you've given this product and a lot of the other

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Speaker 1: stuff that we're producing. So until next time. For Tani

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Speaker 1: on the editing side, I'm Josh Paid on the running

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Speaker 1: his mouth side. We'll see you guys next time. Have

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Speaker 1: a great rest of the week and God bless