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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and looking Stephane. Never

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Speaker 1: told your protection of I heart Radio and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. And we're coming back to

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Speaker 1: what this originated as, which was us talking about women

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Speaker 1: say industry. I'm talking about any beverage, any cocktail, any

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Speaker 1: And because it is Hispanic Heritage Month, we thought we

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Speaker 1: alcohol we're talking about today. We are sponsored obviously because

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Speaker 1: we do have sponsors and you're listening to them. I apologize.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot Also, if you are drinking, be responsible,

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Speaker 1: but not unhealthy for you. We'll keep it at that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you any what. Okay, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: I'm here for you. But today we are doing a

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Speaker 1: tasting of Leger Tona tequila, which was distilled in Via

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Speaker 1: de Guadalupe, Jalisco. So apparently in this area they have

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Speaker 1: most luscious agade out there. Yeah, I said it, um.

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Speaker 1: And so this distillery and their tequila has been getting

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