1 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: It's time for the b A keep A the B 2 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: keep a. 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Okay, the b A q A and we're back. We're 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: back with the BA keep a. 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Okay, it is time for the b A Brown Ambition 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: QA question and answer. So remember we're not your financial advisors. 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: We're not financial planners, we're not your lawyer, we're not 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: your insurance agent. We're just two girls chatting on a mic. 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: And that we're not giving advice. We're merely answering questions 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: that of how we might manage and then you have 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: to make the best choice for yourself. But always lean 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: into your the people that you pay for financial advice. Okay, okay, 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: we got two great listener questions. If you have questions, though, 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: you can always submit them to us. We are a 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Brown Ambition podcast on Instagram, the BA podcast on Twitter 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: which is probably not ideal, but Instagram, and then you 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: can send us an email at brandanbisionpodcast at gmail dot 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: com or go to brownanbisopodcast dot com and cliss click 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: ask us anything. 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, let's get into our questions. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited about these. So our first question comes 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: from listener Janelle, and she has a question about some 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: student loan debt one of our favorite topics already, so 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: she says. Her question is specifically about Naviant and student loans. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: So she says, I've recently got an offer from Naviant. 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: From NAVIANTREFI to refinance my student loans. I have two 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: private loans and one federal loan that's currently being serviced 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: by Naviant. My federal loan is the biggest chunk of 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: my debt. It's thirty five thousand dollars. I know that 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Naviant is ending their contract with the government, and I 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: already printed out my payment history and loan details, even 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: though no one has reached out to me about who 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: the new servicer will be after their contract ends. My 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: question is, am I in danger of losing my protection 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: with public service loan forgiveness if I refinance my federal 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: student loans with Naviant for all my loans similar as 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: if I had refinanced them with so FI. I just 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 3: want to lower interest rate because I'm tired of paying 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: so much money to student loans, but I also don't 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: want to lose my protections if the worst case scenario 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: is I lost my job or hit hard times and 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: I needed some assistance for deferment or forbearance. 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: Jane quick answer. Yes. So here's a conundrum right that 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Janelle has, and many of you might be feeling this too. 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: Janelle has two types of loans. She's got private student 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: loans and she's got federal student loans. Now, I want 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: you to think of private student loans, just call it loan, 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: meaning it's similar to a car loan. It's similar to 49 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: a home loan. Like you just owed in people. There's 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: really no if something happens, there's no federal protection. So 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: we all are very familiar now with the moratorium that 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: happened when everything happened with COVID and quarantine. That the 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: federal government was able to say with federal back loans, 54 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: whether you had a a FAHA like a loan for 55 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: your home or whatever, or like a VA loan for 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: your home or student loans that were federally back, they 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: have control of the money they lend out to say, 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: you know what, actually, don't pay me right now things 59 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: are rough. The federal government has control to do that. 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: The federal government cannot tell private entities to do that. 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: It cannot tell the regular people that you owe Hey, 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: can you let Janelle know she doesn't have to pay no. 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: So what Janelle is struggling with is that Janelle, refinancing 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: your private loans, that's fine because you don't have those 65 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: protections anyway, get your lower interest rate for those systs. 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: But I know that's not where the chunk of what 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: you owe is you really want to try to. You're 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: trying to lower the interest rate on your federal student loans, 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: and you can refinance them, but you will lose the 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: federal protection because you cannot refinance federal student loans with 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: the federal government. Don't refinance, you would have to refinance 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: them with a private company, therefore taking them away from 73 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: the federal government protection and going with a private company. 74 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: So you have to ask yourself, do what's worth it? 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Is it worth with it to me to lose the 76 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: protection in order to get a lower interest rate. I 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: can't make that choice for you, but I just want 78 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you to know that those are your choices. I tend 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: to lean toward make telling people like especially now, like 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: if something does happen to your job, you would lose 81 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: the ability to do for a barnment for barans or 82 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: from a deferment that you know, I really don't like 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: refinancing out of federal student loans unless I'm pretty certain 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: that I'm going to be able to to be able 85 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: to pay and nothing's going to happen to the way 86 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: I make money. But you know, there's no way to 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: know for sure. So just know that, yes, refinancing your 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: federal student loans, you will lose the federal protection. 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: Yep, one thousand percent. I have barely anything to add 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: other than the fact that one I left out I 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: just realized was that she says she's planning to pay 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: off one of her private loans by the end of 93 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 3: this year, So congrats on that. Yeah, that seven hundred 94 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: bucks left, that's amazing. And the other private loan is 95 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: only fifty six hundred dollar. I mean, I'm saying only 96 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: it's a lot of money at nine percent, but that 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: you know, see how you feel once you pay off 98 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: that last loan, that fifty six hundred dollars one at 99 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: nine percent. See how you feel if you can refinance 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: that when and get that paid off, See how you 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: feel then about your federal student loans. But for now, 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: I would just rock with them and focus on those 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: private loans, and then see how you feel later and 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: how your finances are looking and it doesn't like just 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: because you can save money by refinancing, like that opportunity 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: is not going anywhere as far as i'm you know, 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: as far as I know, you will be able to 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: refinance in the future if you decide to. It's not 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: like a one and done opportunity. Banks will always be 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: trying to get your money. Okay, So don't be too 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: hard on yourself on rushing into a decision right now. 112 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: That's all I would add. Okay, all right. 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: Question two do you want to read this one? 114 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: Sure? 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: This is a shorty. 116 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Hello. 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: I'm a nurse and I've worked for a country Okay, Hello, 118 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm a nurse and I've worked for a county hospital 119 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: for over half of my eighteen year nursing career. 120 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: Oh. I love nurses. 121 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: My mom was a nurse. I currently pay into a 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: pension plan. That's awesome, but I have but I have 123 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: paid into Social Security in the past. Will I be 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: able to receive my pension and Social Security benefits when 125 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: I retire? Anonymous in Texas? 126 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: Hey Texas, Hey there, that's why when you said country hospital, 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: I was like, maybe it is a country. Well, thanks 128 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: for your service. I mean nurses don't get enough love. 129 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: I feel like, yes, yeah, I see no reason and 130 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: listen again, financial experts, I am not or we are not, 131 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: But yes, I believe you have no problem getting your 132 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: pension and your Social Security. You know, I think as 133 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: if you're working on through a regular you know, nine 134 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: to five job and you're paying your you're paying your 135 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: payroll taxes FIKA, which is what does FIKA stand for? 136 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: I know it's Social Security, Medicare and federal income taxes, right, 137 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: those things. It's like the however many percent six percent 138 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: of your paycheck that goes toward those those taxes, part 139 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: of that is Social Security, so you should have been 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: paying into that benefit. And absolutely the best way to know. 141 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: Actually it sounds like you might be nearing retirement, but 142 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: if you actually go to SSA dot gov and log 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: in or create an account, they should actually be able 144 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: to give you a sense of how much they can 145 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: even estimate your benefit when you retire. I believe, so 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: go and go to SSA dot gov. That would be 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: my advice, and see what information you can find through 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: your account there. 149 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: And just so you know, like I hear what you're 150 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: doing and what you've written us on taxes. Is it 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: you think you're thinking to yourself, because I pay into pension, 152 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: that I must not be paying to Social Security. That's 153 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: not true. Like if you go, like like I'm on 154 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: the government website right now, and it's like basically nearly 155 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: every American worker as well as their employer, is required 156 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: to pay into Social Security and Medicare taxes. It's just 157 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: taken out of your check. You might have not noticed, 158 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: inclusive if you're self employed. So just because you're paying 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: into your pension, it doesn't mean that you're not paying 160 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: into your Social Security. You are, you know, especially as 161 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: a nurse there you know you work for a public 162 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: entity of that, like you're paying into Social Security, and 163 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: it's two separate things. Like you know, your your pension 164 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: plan is separate from your from your Social Security. So 165 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean you, to Mandy's point, go to that website 166 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: to absolutely make sure. But I'm probably like ninety eight 167 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: point nine percent short that you are paying it to 168 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: Social Security and not even recognizing it. 169 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: So you gonna be good at taxes. 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for your question though, all right, that is 171 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: the ba QA, like tip said at the top of 172 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: the show, feel free to send us your quest questions. 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: We are Brand Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com or 174 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: you can also dm us on the Gram. 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