1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: From the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: voter number seven, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast. I'm 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: your host, Rob Parker. What a show we have for 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: you Today. We're gonna talk with Mark Gubazar, the former 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Major League pitcher and current Los Angeles Angels color commentator 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: for Balis. He'll break down the WBC from a pictures 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: damn point and talk about the future with Oltani and 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: the Angels. That and much more. Let's go to lead off. 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: It's getting rot off to keep him on. Rob's hot 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Number one. I don't know about you if you didn't 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: get goosebumps watching the Championship of the WBC where Japan 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: beat the United States three to two, and it was 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: epic for a close a finish as Oltani's on the 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Mound show, Hey Oltani pitching to his teammate with the Angels, 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Mike Trout three to two, Game three, two pitch and 20 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: he strikes out Trout to win the game for Japan. 21 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about suitable for framing and a great 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: moment for baseball and a sold out stadium in Miami, 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: fans going crazy. It was scripted. I mean, if you 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: wrote the script for Hollywood, nobody would believe it was real. 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: That's how good it was. My goodness, really, it was 26 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: like playoff baseball in March. Normally spring training games are 27 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: laid back, people just getting their swings in. No big deal, man, 28 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: this was epic. This was absolutely epic. Number two. On 29 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: the heels of this loss, don't look now, but the 30 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: USA is gonna push back. After all, baseballs our national pastime, 31 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: after Double Day invented baseball right here in the good 32 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: us of A. And we didn't have our best team. 33 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: We had an all star lineup, but there were plenty 34 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: of American players who weren't there, especially when it came 35 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: to pitching, where the best of the best should have 36 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: been on the mount. And Mike Trout has vowed that 37 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: he will get those players to play the next time 38 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: that the WBC takes place, and wants to win for 39 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: the United States, wants to field the best team and 40 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: get all the best players, and I love it. Competition 41 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: early way better. You're revved up way before spring the 42 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: regular season starts. But the games are meaningful. You're playing 43 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: for something, and there's team pride and country pride, and 44 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: we saw that. Even Shohail Tany said it was the 45 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: greatest thing that he'd ever done. Really, this guy wanted 46 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: an MVP as a pitcher and a hitter in the 47 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: major leagues and winning for his country in the WBC. 48 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: In that moment he said he thought was the greatest 49 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: thing he had ever accomplished. That's what we want more of, 50 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: and we want more players from the United States to 51 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: join in. It would have been great to see Aaron 52 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Judge or Freddie Freeman and people like that in the 53 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: United States played well. They had a great team, but 54 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: let everybody get and let the best of the best 55 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: and let that team play against the world number three. 56 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: If there was one negative about the WBC, we know 57 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: the injuries. Edwin Diaz out for the season the Mets 58 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: closed or now that was on the celebration after he 59 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: struck out the final batter to win the game and 60 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: he was injured during a celebration. That's a freak injury. 61 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: You can't blame the WBC. And the same thing. I 62 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: know people in Houston assaulty can we get planners online? 63 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: One they're mad because second baseman Jose Altuve broke his 64 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: thumb in a WBC game and can't have any baseball 65 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: activities for at least two months. So that's gonna derail 66 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: the Astros at least at the start of the season. 67 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Obviously he'll be able to come back, but that could 68 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: have happened in a spring training game. You can't blame 69 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: the WBC for any of the injuries that took place. 70 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Injuries are part of the game. They could happen in 71 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: spring training, preseason games, whatever you want to call them, 72 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: So don't blame the WBC. It was a great tournament 73 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: for the fans, for the players who participated in and 74 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 1: for the viewers people who watched at home. And this 75 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: is baseball on an international stage. The numbers all across 76 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: the world where eye pop, and especially in Japan where 77 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the eighty million people watched, I mean some some ridiculous 78 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: number like that, incredible amount of eyeballs on the international 79 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: play of baseball. Here comes the big interview. Listen and Larry, 80 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: it's so good, all right, Now let's welcome into the podcast. 81 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: Mark goobazare, of course, a former major league pitcher for 82 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: fourteen years in the big leagues and the current Angel's 83 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: color commentator. Mark, Welcome to the podcast. Appreciate you, Rob, 84 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man. I'll tell you what. It's been electrifying. 85 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: WBC and spring training games have been great. I can't 86 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: wait for this baseball season get rolling. I'm with you. 87 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: But let's go to the WBC. And you know what, 88 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't have written a script in Holly would better 89 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: than last night. It was suitable for framing with two Angels, 90 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: two the top shelf star players in Oltani and Trout 91 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: facing each other with the game on the line. How 92 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: great was that last night? You know, Rob, I'll tell 93 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: you what. It was crazy because in spring training before 94 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: those both of those left for their you know, to 95 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: play for their country. I had a chance to sit 96 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: down and had an interview with them guys, and I 97 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: asked the same questions, what would happen if you guys 98 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: got locked up against each other? And showy Otani's response, 99 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: he's they're smiling and having a good time with it. 100 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: Finally goes God only knows was his answer. So then 101 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: I go back and asked trout the same question. To Trouty, 102 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: he's like, all right, what did show? He say? He goes, 103 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: God only knows that he just almost fell down and laugh. 104 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: He goes, you know what, you know? Basically, that's what 105 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: it comes down to it. I guess what it came 106 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: down there was Show. He was like God last night 107 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: where he went out there and struck out Trouty on 108 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: that three two wicked sweeper slider that you couldn't ask 109 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: for a better ending. I mean, the whole entire tournament 110 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: was incredibly added. With some guys that were hurting. That's 111 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: that was bad to see. But other than that, I'll 112 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: tell you the intensity of you know, every one of 113 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: those games was absolutely felt like it was the seventh 114 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: game in the World Series every single night. I agree. 115 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean it was a home run to me and 116 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: anybody who loves baseball who who watched that it didn't 117 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: think it was something special. They're missing the boat and 118 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: can you imagine the Miami Marlins. They had to be 119 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: jealous to see that ballpark packed out and the electricity 120 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: in the ballpark. Yeah, you know, I'm hoping there's some 121 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: carryover effect because you know I had I had many 122 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: of opponents, you know, giving me grief because I was 123 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: always a fairly emotional guy on the mount when I 124 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: got a big out or you know, I was fist pumping, 125 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't like any of my opponents I faced 126 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: during the course. Again, it could have even been my 127 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: brother on the other side, if with but he had 128 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: a different uniform on. So I want to see emotion 129 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: like that, and I want to see if from you know, everybody, 130 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, big moments, moments you feel that have a 131 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: chance to change the course of a game. I know 132 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: it's a long season, one hundred and sixty two games, 133 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: but I hope that intensity keeps up in baseball because 134 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I think it's it's resonated from baseball fans or even 135 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: non baseball fans, how excited these players were, no doubt, 136 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: and Japan, I mean there's something to reckon with. We've 137 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: keep seeing the great players come over from Japan and 138 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: they get bigger and bigger every single time. I remember 139 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: what you know, Matt Suey was when he came to 140 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: the Yankees, helped him win a World Series, and now 141 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: obviously Otani and being a two way player just talk 142 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: about the talent in Japan. Yeah, I mean, I knew 143 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: they were going to be a tough drawl for anybody 144 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: going through the tournament, especially even in the finals against 145 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the USA team. Their pitching was so good, so deep. 146 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: If you know, guys that could come in out of 147 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: the bullpen. It starters obviously at Darvish and Otani come 148 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: out of the open late for Team Japan, and they 149 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: were gonna be good. They make you know their their 150 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: discipline as far as making plays, the way they hit 151 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: the ball hard, they power, but also get hit the 152 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: ball on the line the other way. You know it 153 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: was gonna be a tough one. I was lucky enough 154 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: to go there in eighty eight and tour with a 155 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: bunch of great MLB stars going over there, and I'm like, Wow, 156 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: they're phenomenal players, but you're right, they're even better at 157 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: this point because they look at you know, their goal 158 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: was this most of the players their goal is to 159 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: play in MLB, but they also realized now that they're 160 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: on an even playing field as far as talent, and 161 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I was it was really great to see that. I've 162 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: had a lot of good friends now I've met over 163 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the yearson Shoeotani has been wearing the Angels uniform from 164 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: Japan and the media people this the excitement level that 165 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: they love baseball so much, and now you're seeing the 166 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: talent on display and everyone gets a chance to see it. 167 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: Our guess is Mark Gubaza, of course, former Major league 168 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: pitcher and current Angels color analyst on television, And yeah, 169 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: we just heard the commissioner also say that he's hoping 170 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: that the major leagues will the USA team will have 171 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: some more of the top line starters get involved in 172 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: this tournament after the success of this. Would you like 173 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: to see that as well? Yeah, that's the one thing 174 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: that you know, everyone keeps asking, you know, because you 175 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of ramp it up a little bit more so 176 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: when you're in such an intense environment like the WBC, 177 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: and we saw what it was, especially when you're playing 178 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: for your country and the fans so into it. I mean, 179 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: record numbers of people watching, record number of people attending 180 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: these games. But I mean just on a personal level, 181 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: every game I took them out in a spring training game, 182 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: I never wanted to give up a hit there. So 183 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: I can't imagine where the thought process it would be. 184 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: The chance for pitchers that potentially get hurt, you know, 185 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: by throwing and amping up their game. At that point, 186 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: you're already ready to pitch in a game in spring 187 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: training the first day, and when you're facing major league hitters, 188 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: you're never just kind of going, I'm just working on things. 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: You're trying to get people out. So I think you're 190 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: gonna see, especially the way it turned out, the excitement level, 191 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot more of the star pitchers, 192 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: I think now wanting to participate in the tournament there 193 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. And Mark, you brought up the 194 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: injury factor. That's what everybody's afraid of, and I get it. 195 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: You hate to lose a star player playing in uh, 196 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, an exhibition tournament before the season. But you know, 197 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: we had the two big injuries. Of course Edwin Diez, 198 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: which is really hard because that was on a celebratory 199 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, not playing the game. It 200 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: was after the game was over. And of course Jose 201 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: Altuve would have broken thumb. But even in Jose's case, Mark, 202 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: that could happen in a pre in a exhibition game. 203 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: It wasn't the WBC per se, right, I mean, I 204 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: can't hold that against either case against the WBC. Totally agree. Especially, 205 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, you can be in a spring training game 206 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: where guys are you know, you know a little bit wid. 207 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: You're facing some younger players that are going to get 208 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: an opportunity to pitch in games and in a spring 209 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: training environment, so they're trying to throw the ball exceptionally hard, 210 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: trying to make an impression on, you know, the organization, 211 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: and it could be while the times you get hit 212 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: by a pitch, guys have been hit by pitches many, many, 213 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: many many times in spring training games, So that part 214 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: of it you feel for al Tube. I love the 215 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: way he plays the game, Diaz, I'm a gigantic fan 216 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: of him. I mean, his energy level. I remember watching 217 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: too many times when he was with Seattle, how good 218 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't and going over to the Mets and see 219 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: what he has done now and the excitement level he 220 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: brings to the Mets and baseball fans in general, even 221 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: when he walks out of the you know, out of 222 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: the bullpen and get ready to go in the games. 223 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: But those things happen, I mean, there's nothing you can 224 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: do about it. There's there's always freak injuries you know 225 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: when you play enough games, especially even in spring training, 226 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: you're playing every day there and that some things could 227 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: go wrong and that's what you hope to avoid. But 228 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: that's why you know, organizational's depth is so important for 229 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: every team, and that's why you play this game. But 230 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: I still reflect on it. I mean, how perfect of 231 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: an ending was it? You have Trout versus Otani. I 232 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: mean it's you can't even Hollywood can't even get that 233 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: script any better than that. I mean, it was perfect, 234 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: It really was. All right, let's talk about the elephant 235 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: in the room, which is johe Oltani and this possibly 236 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: could be his last season, is going to be a 237 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: free agent after this? And a couple thoughts. First, what 238 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: would you do if you were ownership the general manager, 239 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: because we saw something similar with Juan Soto where the 240 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Nationals offered him four hundred and forty million dollars. Anybody 241 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: who says Baseball's dying mark is crazy four hundred and 242 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: forty million dollars guaranteed he turned it down and then 243 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: they immediately traded him. Do you have to make a 244 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: big offer to Oldtani and see where his head is 245 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: and maybe move him, or do you let him play 246 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: out the year. How do you how do you go 247 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: about this? Yeah, this even you know talking you know 248 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: Perry Menacing and general managers for the Angels, and Artie Morano, 249 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: the owner for the Angels. My feeling is Otani's going 250 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: to be wearing an anti uniform this entire season. They've 251 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: build a team now, and regardless of what other people 252 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: love to say, and for some reason they continue to 253 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: say this that the Angels need pitching. If you look 254 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: at their numbers, if you really delve into their numbers, 255 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: if people actually did their research, they were top ten 256 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: in baseball as far as starters era. I mean, they're 257 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: that good and are only better now. You saw stand 258 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: the ball on a huge stage. He struck out Trout 259 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: and Otany for Team Mexico and Reid Detmers he threw 260 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: a no hitter last year and immaculate inning. He's throwing 261 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: the ball even better in spring training. So you have 262 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: four outstanding arms right there. You got Tyler Anners that 263 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: they picked up from the Dodgers, who was an All 264 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: star last year, fifteen game winner in the ARRA under three. 265 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: So and the depth they added, so the team is going, 266 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is as deep as I've seen, and 267 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I've been knowing this now this is my seventeenth year. 268 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: So the feeling is and Showe has said this, if 269 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: the team is winning, that's going to make everything better. 270 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Now that means there's a really good chance, he states, 271 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: with the Angels, I still feel there's a real good 272 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: possibility that the constant questions it will be difficult. And 273 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge dealt with that all last year himself and 274 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: he was outstanding. I'm still shocked at how well he played, 275 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: especially playing for the Yankees and questions about you'll leave 276 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: it or not, but he went out did an amazing job. 277 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: So I expect show It to have even a better 278 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: year this year, especially when you saw him in that 279 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: WBC that you know there's going to be questions that 280 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, all that feeling that wow, 281 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: what do you do? You just let them go at 282 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: the end of the season. It's all about winning. I 283 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: think that's all they care about right now. I think 284 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: you're right to u with the Judge thing. So you 285 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: know where you turned. He turned out two hundred and 286 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: thirteen million. You know, as an older player who normally 287 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: doesn't get that kind of deal, you know what I mean. 288 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: At age thirty that was incredible. And then the perform 289 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: on that stage the Yankees were playing in meaningful games 290 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: that mattered. That was a testament to him. And I 291 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: think you're right, old Tony can can duplicate that. Yeah, 292 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and his discipline is off the charts. And 293 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: seeing him and talking to him every day, and the 294 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: routines he goes through. It's thinking most people, when you're 295 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: asking enough, you're tired, you kind of think, well, maybe 296 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I am Now. His first answer always a crossboarders. I 297 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: want to win. That's it. That's all you're gonna get 298 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: a problem. I want to win. And that's why I 299 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: think he's so unique. That's why we all joke around 300 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: and we all say it now he's a unicorn because 301 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: obviously anybody's doing what he's doing isn't real. So I mean, 302 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: it's a phenomenal. But sitting back and watching him performed 303 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: now as a pictured way he has. He has grown 304 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: exponentially as a pitcher and as a hitter too, And 305 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: there was big moments. If you look at his numbers, 306 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: it's runners in scoring position, they're they're best in the game. 307 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: The numbers when he's on the mount with runners in 308 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: scoring position are the best in the game as far 309 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: as preventing runs scored. So he's so unique, and he's driven, 310 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: and I think, and he says it all the time 311 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: to me, that he's just there. He wants to perform, 312 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: but he also knows that Mike it's Mike Trout's team. 313 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: And then and I think right now you're seeing Trout 314 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: more motivated than ever. When you have a player like 315 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Trout motivated, I think it could be a really special 316 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: year for him as well. The pot the padres the 317 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Angels really need, and I think baseball needs to see 318 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: these two guys in the postseason. We just sawt to 319 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: WBC the Angels not being a part of the postseason. 320 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: With such tremendous players as as Trout and Oltani, how 321 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: important is it for baseball? People want to see these 322 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: guys on the big stage. One hundred percent agree with 323 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: you on that one, Rob, And that's why I think 324 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: their goal this year, even though the whole conversation and 325 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: all went along was Arte Moreno was going to sell 326 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: the team, but he was also told Perry Manassy and 327 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: the GM to improve this team anyway possible and then 328 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: there was there was obviously some great names in a 329 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: shortstop position, and Trey Turner being one of them, and 330 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: obviously Carlos care and everything with him that you had 331 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: that one player, but he realized you needed a number 332 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: of players to really build out a roster. And when 333 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: you look at the really good teams, you know, the Astros, 334 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, the Yankees, you have superstars, but you also 335 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: have very good players to supplement around. In other words, 336 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: you're making a movie. You have your stars, but you 337 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: also need your co stars. And I think that's what 338 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: he went out and did. When you bring in a Hunter, 339 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: renfro A, gr Shellow, Brandon dry A, Tyler Anderson, and 340 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Carlos Estevis, I mean you all of a sudden now 341 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: have a very deep roster that if guys need a 342 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: day off, if guys get banged up, that you're still 343 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Anthony Rendon, you look back at twenty nineteen, 344 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: he was unreal for the Nationals. That's why they won 345 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: the World Series. And he looks incredibly healthy this year 346 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: and motivated to play the game. Where everyone's saying does 347 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: he I mean, does he have a lot left? I'm 348 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: telling you. He looks phenomenal, So you put him in there. 349 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: You have Otani, I mean Trout Otani, Rendon, Hunter, Renfro, 350 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: Taylor Warden in front of those guys, and then behind 351 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: him he got Jared Walsh's completely healthy. Right now, you 352 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: got Brandon Drury, Jiro Shelly could play a number of 353 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: different positions all of a sudden if you're a pitcher 354 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: going against the Angels. Unlike what we saw after some 355 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: injuries to them last year, it was a different team. 356 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: Now they're deep enough where they can have a few 357 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: guys take a day off, a couple of guys get 358 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: banged up, that they're still a very deep line up. 359 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: Our last thing with Mark Gubaza, of course, the former 360 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Major league pitcher and Angel's color analysts on Bally Sports 361 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: last year, there were a lot of players I remember 362 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: CC Sabathia, maybe j D. Martinez, and maybe a couple 363 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: of others who thought that shoe Hey should be the 364 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: MVP every year because they both Everyone was saying, you know, 365 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: trying to pitch and be of that caliber, and of 366 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: course the kype of hitter he is. But Aaron Judge 367 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: won pretty easily the al MVP. I thought that was 368 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: the right choice despite what Old Tani did. Where are 369 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: you on that? Was that the right choice? You'd think 370 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: that Judge won it last year or was it really 371 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Old Tani? Yeah? Wow, that is a great question of 372 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge this season last year was off the charts 373 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: and always been a big fan of his many many 374 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: many years. But to do that on their that you know, 375 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: on that stage, is phenomenal. But that being said, what 376 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: showy and when people say games weren't as meaningful anytime 377 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: you take them out as a pitcher, it doesn't matter 378 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: if your team is Owen one sixty two. Everything you 379 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: do is meaningful. What he did at the plate, I mean, 380 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: I reflect back in these two games he had against 381 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: Kansas City. They were down, the Angels were down by 382 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: significant amount. He had two three run home runs, he 383 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: had eight RBI's, His emotion after his second home run 384 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: was unreal. And then the very next day he goes 385 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: out and goes eight inning. He strikes out a career 386 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: at thirteen. I mean, no human being does that. Is 387 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: he the MVP? Yes, I mean I think part of 388 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: it comes down to Barry Bonds should have won the 389 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: MVP way more than he did. But people get so like, oh, well, 390 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: he wanted so many times to vote for somebody else. Now, 391 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge was incredibly good. So as much as I 392 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: think Shoeotani was the MVP and I would have voted 393 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: for him, I really didn't have a problem when Aaron 394 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: Judge win the MVP too, because he was that good. 395 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: But Showeotani. What he did is era, his offensive numbers, 396 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: everything about him, and it don't even get me into 397 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: how incredible fielding of a pitcher he is too. I mean, 398 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: he did everything like no other human being did on 399 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: the mount fielding his position he was, He's the MVP 400 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: every year were doing what he's doing, But there's always 401 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: a guy that says, hey, listen, don't forget me. And 402 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: I think I was Aaron Judge last year, so I 403 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: applaud him for his season. There's no one that I 404 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: thought these last two years was even close to what 405 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: shoeo Tani did. His name is Mark gubazaar Man. As 406 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: good as it gets, we appreciate you, the former major 407 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: league pitcher and of course catch them on Angels games 408 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: as the color analyst for Ballet Sports. Mark appreciate it. 409 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: Can't wait for the season I'm with you. I'm excited. 410 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of good teams, a 411 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: lot of good players, man, and that WBC has set 412 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: us up nicely to get the season Roland, So thanks 413 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: so much anytime, Rob, I'll tell you what. You're exactly right, 414 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: the WBC guy. Everyone's thinking, Okay, this is going to 415 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: be a great carry on. I just hope the players again, 416 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: hope the players and the fans have that same enthusiasm 417 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: every single night for baseball, because you know what, I'll 418 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: be doing that in the booth, no doubt. Stay well, 419 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: thanks for I appreciate it, man. I'll bring in the closer. 420 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: Here's why MLB is better than the NFL or NBA, 421 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: and it isn't even close. Reason number seven hundred and 422 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: fifty five why Major League Baseball is better than the 423 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: NBA and the NFL. You just saw it. You just 424 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: saw preseason baseball exhibition tournament that mattered, my goodness, gracious, really, 425 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: and the players cared. This wasn't some NBA All Star 426 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: game where nobody's playing defense and nobody cared because people 427 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: were afraid to get hurt. This wasn't the pro ball 428 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: where we were reduced to tag football. Flag football, whatever 429 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: you want to call it, because nobody wants to get 430 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: hurt and they don't want to play each other. Here 431 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: is competition. They weren't throwing underhand at the WBC. They 432 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: weren't say here, hit it, no, I don't care. I 433 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: don't care where you hit the ball. I don't care 434 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: you a home run. No. It was the ultimate degree 435 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: of competence, Hian, with something on the line, playing for 436 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: the fans, playing for your country, and playing for yourself. 437 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: And did you hear those crowds. The crowds were outstanding, unbelievable. 438 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: The Miami Marlins must have been sick to see their 439 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: house and their you know, stadium filled to the brim. 440 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: They wish they could get people in Miami to come 441 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: to their games. That was incredible And that's again why 442 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: baseball is king of the world. In the words of 443 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: New York TV legend the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you 444 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: for your time this time until next time. Rob Parker out, 445 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: he can't get this could be an inside the Parker 446 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: See you next week. Sad time, same bad station.