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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 2: television with over ten years of production experience. Once a
Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows,
Speaker 2: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and
Speaker 2: tweeting about. Watch Hey, rain Drops. On today's episode of
Speaker 2: Reality with the King. I am joined by Blue Telusma,
Speaker 2: who is a culture critic and writer and Miss Thing
Speaker 2: doesn't know this, but I enjoy her. On Hollywood Unlocked
Speaker 2: with Jason Lee, I know you did know that?
Speaker 1: Did you idea you knew?
Speaker 2: Oh honey, I know, and I watch, Yes, I watch you,
Speaker 2: and I'm so proud of you and all the work
Speaker 2: you're doing. So we are going to talk about the Kardashians,
Speaker 2: the Kim versus Courtney, and Travis of it all is controversial. Well,
Speaker 2: my girl Blue has found but let me tell you,
Speaker 2: rain drops how this all came about. And Blue, you
Speaker 2: don't know this story, honey, So you're going to hear
Speaker 2: for the first time along with my listeners. Oh here,
Speaker 2: so okay, here I am true true story. This past Saturday,
Speaker 2: I am in my I'm en route to the gym.
Speaker 2: One of my friends for over twenty years, whose chevromin
Speaker 2: nameless because she was like Carlos, stop talking about MINA podcasts,
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna say her name.
Speaker 1: She sent me this.
Speaker 2: Video of this beautiful black woman giving this diatrobe of
Speaker 2: Kim and Courtney's beef and how Travis Barker's memoir may
Speaker 2: make sense in terms of what's been going on with
Speaker 2: Kim and Courtney's weird beep. So I'm listening to it
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, okay. So I land at the gym,
Speaker 2: and then I said, I have to get her on
Speaker 2: my podcast. So I found out who was and I said,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's a girl in Hollywood unlocked. So
Speaker 2: I slid to her DMS on a Saturday and said,
Speaker 2: are you able to come on my podcast?
Speaker 1: And here she is, So thank you for this quick
Speaker 1: turn around, my love.
Speaker 3: No, if you are one of the few people I
Speaker 3: would have said yes to do on a Saturday, I
Speaker 3: just want to sh you are a reality show legend.
Speaker 3: I have to give you your flower.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So many of the moments that the girls take for granted,
Speaker 3: you planted that seed, and so I definitely had to
Speaker 3: come for this. I had to because one thing I've
Speaker 3: learned from working with Jason is black media matters, and
Speaker 3: we tend to be overshadowed by those who grabbed the
Speaker 3: baton from us and commodify it without giving us our due.
Speaker 3: So I would have done this for you on a Sunday,
Speaker 3: even even on The Lord Today.
Speaker 4: Carlos, Oh, don't make me cry, girl, because the way
Speaker 4: you read Travis Keim mccourtney's trifecta hoodie, I was too
Speaker 4: busy gagging and crying and laughter.
Speaker 1: So let's get right into it.
Speaker 2: So, if you've been living under rock, the season premiere
Speaker 2: of The Kardashians on Hulu was just released, and Baby,
Speaker 2: this clip that's been floating around all of social media
Speaker 2: is Kimberly Noel Kardashian esteem actress Hoddy not my Girls acting.
Speaker 2: She's on a funber Courtney and they're talking about this
Speaker 2: redundant beef of what happened with Kim and Dolce Gavana
Speaker 2: and Courtney's wedding. I'll spare the details, but what was
Speaker 2: so magnificent about this conversation? Courtney told Kim, I hate you.
Speaker 2: You are a witch and you're such a narcissist. You
Speaker 2: want to be the sense of attention. Kim likes to
Speaker 2: go below the belt. Now what Courtney just said, it's
Speaker 2: also below the belt. But I don't know any person
Speaker 2: who would ever tell a mother your kids even talk
Speaker 2: about you and said we have a group chap called
Speaker 2: no Courtney. So anyways, all of that happened. Blue is
Speaker 2: PI private Eye. Okay, she's inspector Gadget. I won't give
Speaker 2: it away because I want you to. I think Blue
Speaker 2: may have unlocked the mystery in terms of why Kim
Speaker 2: and Courtney this beef that seems to be running on
Speaker 2: a hamster.
Speaker 1: Whell so Blue take it away, my sister.
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I have to tell everyone is,
Speaker 3: please don't tell me about how evil Kim is. I
Speaker 3: never said Kim was an angel, So everybody wasted their
Speaker 3: time and their Twitter fingers telling me Kim wasn't an angel.
Speaker 3: I never said she was. It's irrelevant, right, and so
Speaker 3: that's the first thing I have to say. The second
Speaker 3: thing is I do think the person who started the
Speaker 3: beef was Chris Jenner because she created this ecosystem of
Speaker 3: whoever makes the most money's her favorite, and then she'll
Speaker 3: talk about it on camera, kekey about it. So Chris
Speaker 3: Jenner started it. I'm gonna say that, Carlos, you invited me.
Speaker 3: You know who you were inviting. You know what I do.
Speaker 3: Tavis finished it, but Chris started it.
Speaker 1: That's the issue our ros lead to. Chris.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something about how much I investigate.
Speaker 3: So in addition to be a cultural critic, I do
Speaker 3: emotional intelligence coaching. So everything that I do is the
Speaker 3: lens of psychology, and the Kardashian Jenner's actually represent six
Speaker 3: psychological archetypes that the audience is going to immediately recognize.
Speaker 3: Chris Jenner, she is the puppet master. We all know
Speaker 3: that Chris Jenner is a puppet master. Now Courtney Shortest
Speaker 3: one has the longest name. That's how I tend to
Speaker 3: remember because she's not memorable. Courtney is the manipulative victim,
Speaker 3: so she manipulates through victimhood.
Speaker 1: Chris, I mean krim is.
Speaker 3: The narcissistic it girl. So she's not a narcissist, but
Speaker 3: she's narcissistic. And she's the pretty one that everybody pays
Speaker 3: attention to. Let's call a thing by its name. And
Speaker 3: then we have Chloe, the short name is the tallest one.
Speaker 3: She is the one who's like the people pleasing martyr.
Speaker 3: She'll set herself on fire to keep everybody warm, including
Speaker 3: wayward black men looking to make mix babies with her.
Speaker 3: And then we have Kendall, who is like the tomboysh
Speaker 3: like pick me, I'm not like the other girls, Yes
Speaker 3: you are. You are exactly like the other girls. Shut up.
Speaker 3: And last, but not least, we have Kylie, who's the
Speaker 3: wild card and the gag is Carlos. The reason why
Speaker 3: I knew that Chloe and and Courtney were a little
Speaker 3: bit full of it is because if Courtney really was
Speaker 3: she said she was, she'd be moving like Kylie. Kylie
Speaker 3: will not show up. She doesn't feel like it, she
Speaker 3: doesn't burn the house down, she finds her boyfriend, she
Speaker 3: makes her baby, she makes her billions. Allegedly, Forbes has
Speaker 3: some beef around that. She makes her money and she
Speaker 3: minds her business. So if Courtney really just wanted to
Speaker 3: be left alone, she could have been left alone. She
Speaker 3: could have been left alone. I'm calling bs. So that's
Speaker 3: where I wanted to start.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot to unpact there. Okay.
Speaker 2: So Courtney is, in your words, the forgettable one because
Speaker 2: she's not memorable, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, memorable by proximity to other people.
Speaker 2: Okaya, Kim is the pretty one and she's narcissistic.
Speaker 1: It girls, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Chloe's a people pleaser who would set herself on fire
Speaker 2: to please anybody in her orbit. Ken though, is picked
Speaker 2: me because she wants to say I'm not like that,
Speaker 2: but you really are. And Kylie to you is the
Speaker 2: only one who's like, I hate being famous, I hate
Speaker 2: all this shit. I don't like filming. You will never
Speaker 2: see me on the show. I'll be in the main titles.
Speaker 2: I'll do a feto shoot. I may appear here now.
Speaker 2: You will never ever see me talk about my personal
Speaker 2: life with my man, my baby daddy and Stormy.
Speaker 3: Anybody who likes Courtney really likes Kylie. Courtney is pretending
Speaker 3: to be what Kylie actually is, and that's the gag
Speaker 3: of it all. So all of you were like, no,
Speaker 3: Courtney's down to earth if you were down to earth.
Speaker 3: I said this in the video, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people had a strong feeling about it. The worst kind
Speaker 3: of hater is the one that will sit at the
Speaker 3: table break bread with you and then wait for you
Speaker 3: to choke on the bread. That is her problem. She's
Speaker 3: sitting there at the table, benefiting from being on the show.
Speaker 3: She has final say in the final cut, so she
Speaker 3: knew that episode was coming out the way that it did,
Speaker 3: but will pretend that she's above it. If you really
Speaker 3: didn't want to be there, you would have been in
Speaker 3: the parking lot with Kylie, like, come on, let's call
Speaker 3: a thing a thing. Belove it? Like she lies so
Speaker 3: much and she manipulates to playing victim and let me
Speaker 3: tell you the realty. Because I did watch a couple
Speaker 3: of the old episodes. The only thing that made Courtney
Speaker 3: relevant ever was the fact that she and Chloe we
Speaker 3: used to gang up on Kim because they were making
Speaker 3: fun of Kim for being so fame hungry, and she
Speaker 3: had a debut baby daddy, right, so it was a
Speaker 3: deputy baby daddy, And you and the fat funny one
Speaker 3: are gonna like make fun of the pretty one that
Speaker 3: was her thing. I think the turning point Carls is
Speaker 3: looking at me, Cals, I'm just getting started.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no. This is because the girls need
Speaker 1: to know this.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I've considered this housewise connoisseur, and obviously by proxy is
Speaker 2: because I produced two of the franchises, so I know
Speaker 2: a lot about that that that formula. However, dot Org,
Speaker 2: I am a Cardashing connoisseur. So everything you're saying, I've
Speaker 2: been watching the show since season one. I do not
Speaker 2: miss a season. Even when this season is boring, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna watch it. But no, I'm gagging because me and
Speaker 2: my girl, the girl who referred your video to me,
Speaker 2: she and I always say, look, say what you want.
Speaker 2: Courtney and Scott carry the show because Scott was such
Speaker 2: an anti Kardashing in the sense of he they care
Speaker 2: about the public image. And this is no shade to the
Speaker 2: Kardashian who I love, but they care about the public image.
Speaker 2: And because Scott was the anti that it allowed Courtney
Speaker 2: to be seen in a way because Cam's boyfriends were
Speaker 2: always out of state, so you were able to see
Speaker 2: these daily interactions between Scott and Courtney. But so I
Speaker 2: agree with everything you're saying so far continuous, and you.
Speaker 3: Agree because you like facts.
Speaker 1: So that's how I oh, yeah, I'm a journalist, Hey, Portia.
Speaker 3: Journalistic is you know, I love por journalistic. Integrity matters.
Speaker 3: And the thing that is such a key for me
Speaker 3: is everything that I've said that's been so inflammatory is
Speaker 3: me just repeating the facts. And Scott distic is excellent
Speaker 3: television with people are like, I don't understand why they
Speaker 3: were still friends with Scott even after he broke up
Speaker 3: with Courtney because he's excellent television and their producers and
Speaker 3: they're not stupid. You're not gonna let your cash cow
Speaker 3: go away just because he stopped sleeping with the boring one.
Speaker 3: And so the thing is her value was sleeping with
Speaker 3: Scott and having his storyline be gifted to us Lord
Speaker 3: Disic gold right, and even watching Chloe and Scott because
Speaker 3: they have personalities. I both said, is Courtney's really good
Speaker 3: at finding people who have personalities and kind of just
Speaker 3: standing next to them and winning in their shadow. Right.
Speaker 3: So what ended up happening is Scott got tired of
Speaker 3: putting babies in her because even though we're gonna get
Speaker 3: married her and Chloe got tired of being the funny
Speaker 3: fat one. She was like, we are sitting around collecting
Speaker 3: checks like welfare and not doing nothing and talking shit
Speaker 3: about him. But I would like to feel sexy and pretty.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start working out and trying to look cute
Speaker 3: and start my own brand. And the minute that Chloe
Speaker 3: started working on her fitness and working on her brand
Speaker 3: and finding a work ethic for once, suddenly she couldn't
Speaker 3: be a lazy hater with Courtney, and Courtney was left
Speaker 3: to hate her on her own. So she lost baby
Speaker 3: Daddy and she lost her her sidekick, and what does.
Speaker 1: She do with Look that was me dropping the mic girl. Okay,
Speaker 1: so well, honey, my.
Speaker 3: Line in Carlos, that's all I wanted to ask you
Speaker 3: my life?
Speaker 1: Oh my, what have you been on my life? Okay,
Speaker 1: groc listen, this is the gag.
Speaker 2: I can literally talk to you all day, which is
Speaker 2: like kind of sad but just true because I'm so
Speaker 2: invested in this. Okay, so now that we got the
Speaker 2: crux of rehashing the history of everything, because baby, oh child,
Speaker 2: you are on point, explain to the audience what happened
Speaker 2: recently that you discovered, and when I listen, the reason
Speaker 2: why I take the word journalism very seriously is because
Speaker 2: one thing I was taught in college.
Speaker 1: Before I dropped out was that because that's another podcast, because.
Speaker 2: You must cite your sources, and I felt like, in
Speaker 2: this world of social media, everything's opinion based and nobody
Speaker 2: cares about facts anymore. It's all about popular opinion and
Speaker 2: running the gamut of not trying to get like canceled
Speaker 2: because you have an unpopular opinion. One thing you did Blue,
Speaker 2: which is why I said I'm inviting her on not
Speaker 2: only because I'm aware of her journalistic background. You did
Speaker 2: your research, you cited your sources, and you were reading
Speaker 2: things that I'm like, girlfriend, I meg on Amazon dot com.
Speaker 2: Use my audible points, honey, and buy the memoir of
Speaker 2: Travis Barker because you spilled the tea. So explain to
Speaker 2: us what you uncovered that could explain why Courtney is
Speaker 2: so mad at Kim.
Speaker 3: She spilled with Hey, well, every journalist needs a moment
Speaker 3: where they're like, hey, I think there's a story here.
Speaker 3: And for me, the moment was when Chris Jenner told
Speaker 3: One Life too Many, because she went on and she
Speaker 3: was like, you know, Courtney, Travis told me that in
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven he bought a house in Calabasas
Speaker 3: because he knew you were the love of his life
Speaker 3: and you knew that one day you'd be free and
Speaker 3: that he'd be able to like be with you. And
Speaker 3: I was like, Noah, wait a minute, did Travis even
Speaker 3: know Cordney in two thousand and seven? And I was like,
Speaker 3: and I started thinking about things that I had heard
Speaker 3: in the ether, like in two thousand and seven, he
Speaker 3: was dating Paris Hilton and Paris was hanging out with Kim.
Speaker 3: So that's what made me realize that, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: I think that story is true, but I think the
Speaker 3: names were switched. I was like, I think Chris just
Speaker 3: took Kim's story and tried to assign it to the Deadbeat.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh man, now I got to
Speaker 3: investigate this. So I got to researching, and let me
Speaker 3: tell you, Travis needs to give her to that book
Speaker 3: or pay me for pr FS because I feel like
Speaker 3: his sales are going to skyrocket on Amazon ever since
Speaker 3: the video went viral because the book he told on himself,
Speaker 3: and I'm someone who has a lot of straight male friends,
Speaker 3: and I literally said, hey, from when I read in
Speaker 3: the book, do you agree with what I'm coming up
Speaker 3: to the like? No, as a man, I completely agree
Speaker 3: with what you're saying. Because in the book he says
Speaker 3: he broke up with Shennamochler. Paris was his rebound. She
Speaker 3: was like the it girl back then. Kim was the help.
Speaker 3: She was rich, but she was still the help, let's
Speaker 3: be honest. And she was driving Paris around and designing
Speaker 3: her closets and whatnot, trying to get famous, wait in
Speaker 3: for a look. And when they went to Amsterdam, Paris
Speaker 3: brought Kim with her, and Travis wrote in his book,
Speaker 3: I know I was dating Paris Hilton, but I couldn't
Speaker 3: keep my eyes off of him. She's just so damn hot.
Speaker 3: I told all my boys in that trip, I know
Speaker 3: I'm with Paris, but I can't keep my eyes off
Speaker 3: of him. And then he said that even when him
Speaker 3: and Kim like came home, he slid into her and
Speaker 3: they didn't have DMS back then. He hit up, heard
Speaker 3: her cricket whatever, she had a BlackBerry. He hit her
Speaker 3: up and tried to continue a friendship and even gave
Speaker 3: her advice when she was thinking about doing the show
Speaker 3: with Ryan Seacrest. So this is pre the show. Before
Speaker 3: the show even started, Travis was like, I got my
Speaker 3: eyes on this one, and she's in a relationship with
Speaker 3: ray J. But like most dudes when they have a
Speaker 3: pretty female friend, I'm a wait. And then in the
Speaker 3: book he says, the minute the sex kick came out
Speaker 3: and I found out that ray J and Kim had
Speaker 3: broken up, I hit her up and started taking her
Speaker 3: on lunch and dinner dates. And I bought a house
Speaker 3: in Calabasa so I could be closer to her.
Speaker 1: So the whole story wait wait.
Speaker 5: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 5: wait wait wait okay, okay, because we got to dissect
Speaker 5: that you're saying that Chris Jenner said on The Kardashian Show,
Speaker 5: and so this is the Hulu show.
Speaker 3: Well, there's been so many shows, it's one of them.
Speaker 1: I know, there's been so many shows. But she said
Speaker 1: on their reality show.
Speaker 2: Yes, so Chris, you're alleging or is it alleging or
Speaker 2: is it true, because obviously you got to preceive. So
Speaker 2: Chris Jenner said on her reality show that in two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven, oh my gosh, Travis moved to Calabasas
Speaker 2: to be close to the Courtney. But in fact, you
Speaker 2: have read in this man's memoir in Black and White
Speaker 2: that when he was dating Paris Hilton.
Speaker 1: Because the way it works in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Guys and in hip hop, everybody, that's a whole nother
Speaker 2: podcast says, Hey, the way it works in Hollywood and
Speaker 2: hip hop, you sort of update the it girl within
Speaker 2: that subculture, and Paris Hilton at the time in Hollywood
Speaker 2: was the it girl. So Travis Barker being the rock star,
Speaker 2: it was sort of like everybody wanted their own version
Speaker 2: of Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson. Like that's kind of
Speaker 2: what that world is, sort of like airby Rapper now
Speaker 2: wants their Beyonce. Every body and the hip hop wants
Speaker 2: Beyonce and jay Z. That's why you know what, Let
Speaker 2: me stop. That's another podcast they will do, like.
Speaker 3: I'm hearing podcast Carlos.
Speaker 2: But yes, okay, that's the whole dot of bubble deal
Speaker 2: for my brain drops. So what happened was he wrote
Speaker 2: in the book that he moved to Calabasas to be
Speaker 2: close to him.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing. He didn't connect them. He
Speaker 3: was smart. He wrote that he moved to Calabasas after
Speaker 3: the divorce and that he was smitten with Kim, who
Speaker 3: just happened to live in Calabasas. So twenty years later,
Speaker 3: when Chris is lying and saying, well, he said he
Speaker 3: moved to Calabasas because he thought the love of his
Speaker 3: life lived there. That's when I pulled out a calculator
Speaker 3: and started doing math. That's what happened. I carried the
Speaker 3: one Carlos, and I found a lie. So that's what happened.
Speaker 3: It was so funny because they keep peace smelling the truth.
Speaker 3: So if you just put all the pieces and you
Speaker 3: start rearraising me like, oh wait a minute, if he's
Speaker 3: telling the mom I moved to Calabasas in two thousand
Speaker 3: and seven because I thought I had met the love
Speaker 3: of my life. And in the book he's saying in
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, I was singing with Kim Kardashian
Speaker 3: and Courtney's name is nowhere in sight. It doesn't take
Speaker 3: a rocket scientist to figure out that one plus one
Speaker 3: is still too right. So I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: and then people are saying, well, Blue, that was fifteen
Speaker 3: years ago. Some of y'all said, twenty, I need you
Speaker 3: to learn how account that was fifteen years ago, and
Speaker 3: so maybe he got over it. Uh eight years later,
Speaker 3: after he had tried to mac on him and she
Speaker 3: had friend zoned him. When he wrote his memoir, he
Speaker 3: used the chapter about Kim as his publicity chapter. And Carlos,
Speaker 3: everybody in the industry knows the story that you extrapolate
Speaker 3: from a memoir to be the thing that you talk
Speaker 3: to the press about is the thing that you think
Speaker 3: it's going to be shining that you want to exemplify.
Speaker 3: And as a man who's trying to get with a girl,
Speaker 3: he's probably thinking, well, it's been eight years, maybe she's
Speaker 3: still interested. Maybe if I talk in public to us
Speaker 3: weekly the Bible of celebrity back then about how much
Speaker 3: I used to be in love with her, maybe she'll
Speaker 3: hit me up because we're still friends, Like, come on,
Speaker 3: let's be honest. Eight years later, we made her the
Speaker 3: focal point of the memoir when he.
Speaker 2: Was public, So when he was on the promo trail
Speaker 2: promoting his memoile, which is true.
Speaker 1: So when a.
Speaker 2: Celebrity has autobiography and memoile, or any book for that matter,
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Kerry Washington. For example, Kerry Washington just
Speaker 2: wrote a book, It's her biography, and on the promo trail,
Speaker 2: what every publication news interviews talking about is the fact
Speaker 2: that her biological father was a sperm donor, and she
Speaker 2: had an abortion, and she almost committed suicide. So these
Speaker 2: are things that she's talking about from the book in
Speaker 2: order for people to be excited to buy the book.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is Travis used a chapter amongs
Speaker 2: his life story and his whole life story as a
Speaker 2: rock star. He used for the public promo of this book,
Speaker 2: the chapter about Kimberly Noel Kardashian.
Speaker 3: I couldn't keep my eyes off of her. That quote
Speaker 3: was plastered everywhere at the time. I couldn't keep my
Speaker 3: eyes off of her. I know she was I know
Speaker 3: she was the closet girl, but I just couldn't keep
Speaker 3: my eyes off of her. And mind you, at this point,
Speaker 3: he's been hanging out at DASH and he's now a
Speaker 3: family friend. So again, like I said in the video,
Speaker 3: while Courtney's popping out babies and eating out of my
Speaker 3: man fighting with Scott. Travis is coming over to the
Speaker 3: store for a key. He's still looking at him and
Speaker 3: Courtney seeing this, so it's not like she didn't know.
Speaker 3: We all know as women, we all know when one
Speaker 3: of our homegirls has that one guy who was obviously
Speaker 3: in love with her, We're like, girl, he doesn't even
Speaker 3: he doesn't even buy Woman's closed. Why is he back
Speaker 3: in here? And what makes the tea even hotter is
Speaker 3: when he couldn't get Kim to like him when she
Speaker 3: friend zoned him, he actually briefly went back to Shana
Speaker 3: Mochler and Shanna Moechler said the reason why my marriage
Speaker 3: didn't reconcile was because Travis was still in love with Kim,
Speaker 3: and Travis in the memoir substantiates that he said, even
Speaker 3: when I tried to get back with my ex wife,
Speaker 3: I couldn't keep my mind off of Kim. He wrote
Speaker 3: that in.
Speaker 2: Whoa Wait, hold up, wait a minute, hold up, wait
Speaker 2: wait wait wait you okay? Is this alleged or you
Speaker 2: have the receipts for this too? Shanna Muckler said, what
Speaker 2: and she said this on TV in an interview.
Speaker 1: What did she say?
Speaker 3: A lot of different places. The first place she said
Speaker 3: it was when she got upset she went to when
Speaker 3: she found out that Travis was now dating and Tongukis
Speaker 3: and Courtney all over the place. She like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: that's not the Kardashian. That's not the one that ended
Speaker 3: our marriage. It was the other one. So she ran
Speaker 3: off to us Weekly and said, now, hold up, I
Speaker 3: don't understand Kim is the one that broke up my marriage.
Speaker 3: And Travis even said in an interview while he was
Speaker 3: promoting the book, he said, Yo, I feel bad because
Speaker 3: even though it was Shanna, I couldn't stop thinking about Kim.
Speaker 3: And Shanna found out and she and Kim got into
Speaker 3: a fight at Carmen Electric's party, and Shanna threw a
Speaker 3: drink on her girl. Travis Travis's own mouth. I'm not
Speaker 3: making this up. It came out of his own mouth.
Speaker 2: Let's have a moment of silence for for the receipts.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Sdi, the receipt is receipting.
Speaker 2: So why does Shana feel like Kim Kardashian broke up
Speaker 2: her marriage? Did Kim Kardashian and Travis have a sexual relationship.
Speaker 1: Did they flirty text? Like, did something happen that we
Speaker 1: don't know about?
Speaker 3: Kim and Travis are claiming that they never touched. It
Speaker 3: was just flirty dates and watching the fireworks together and
Speaker 3: holding hands and such. Because adults who are rich who
Speaker 3: go to fireworks don't have sex. Ever, that's not a thing, right,
Speaker 3: Shanna says BS. She said, we had mutual friends who
Speaker 3: was watching y'all together. My friends took your phone and
Speaker 3: sent me screenshots of all your text messages, so I
Speaker 3: read the entire exchange. Y'all were smashing, and that's when
Speaker 3: my marriage failed and the reason why we Shanna even
Speaker 3: got pulled in this because Alabama consuck. What's the girl's name,
Speaker 3: the daughter who wants to be like ah ah she
Speaker 3: because she's a little Alabama Goo. Tennessee did a screenshot
Speaker 3: of her conversation where her mama and posted it on
Speaker 3: Instagram and forgot to black out the part that says,
Speaker 3: you know, me and your daddy broke up because he
Speaker 3: was in love with Kim, right, so you're own like
Speaker 3: she's telling her children, our family is broken up because
Speaker 3: of his obsession with Kim Kardashian and and and the
Speaker 3: mental giant that she is. She posted this on Instagram
Speaker 3: and didn't black out that part. So why I tell
Speaker 3: you the receipts are having babies. At this point, I
Speaker 3: can't get sued. I'm just reading.
Speaker 1: Now, Honey.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, what you're talking about
Speaker 2: are things in a book and backed up by an
Speaker 2: interview of these people saying this out loud and and
Speaker 2: in a book.
Speaker 1: So listen. Allegedly, you.
Speaker 2: And Shana and Travis, yes we're all on the course.
Speaker 3: Yes, all four of us got to me.
Speaker 2: So allegedly you do believe that Kim and Travis.
Speaker 1: Smashed.
Speaker 3: I believe that something non platonic happened. This is me
Speaker 3: using my journalistic integrity. I believe something more than platonic
Speaker 3: and perhaps less than a relationship happened. And emotional cheating
Speaker 3: is still cheating, by the way, so I don't want
Speaker 3: to act like unless somebody puts the plug in the socket,
Speaker 3: it doesn't count as cheating. I do believe emotional cheating
Speaker 3: and cheating. And Shanna is saying that my marriage didn't
Speaker 3: work because he was obsessed with Kim, and Travis is
Speaker 3: saying I can stop thinking about Kim during my marriage
Speaker 3: so they actually agree on this.
Speaker 1: They agree on.
Speaker 3: This, and this is the gag, right. Somebody said, what's
Speaker 3: happening with Travis and Courtney and Kim is like, if
Speaker 3: you really want chapotlet, but you set up for Taco Bell.
Speaker 3: Somebody wrote down in the comments. I want to give
Speaker 3: them their credit. I didn't make it up. I just
Speaker 3: work here, Carlos, I just work here. And so you're
Speaker 3: gonna eat it. You might not want it, but you're
Speaker 3: gonna eat it. It's still a taco, right. And so
Speaker 3: when Portney herself is telling their love story, she's talking
Speaker 3: about how it's the pandemic. She's hanging out with this
Speaker 3: man every single day and he's not making a move.
Speaker 3: Every single day she's in his face looking like thirty
Speaker 3: three percent of his dream girl, and he's not making
Speaker 3: no move of her. And she said that they went
Speaker 3: through a movie date and you know what, she said,
Speaker 3: screw it, and she made the first move and she
Speaker 3: tongu kissed them and jumped on him. A man who
Speaker 3: was willing to move the Calabasas and wait for ray
Speaker 3: J to slip up just to have a chance. Couldn't
Speaker 3: even kiss you while you were in his face for
Speaker 3: the pandemic when he had nowhere else to go. Anybody
Speaker 3: who knows how men work something is fishy. Courtney's the
Speaker 3: one who coached Travis. It wasn't the other way around.
Speaker 1: Her own words, Courtney said out of her own mouth
Speaker 1: that she's the one who approached He was.
Speaker 3: Too shy to make a move. He wasn't shy when
Speaker 3: he was buying real estate in Calabasas, but he was
Speaker 3: too shy to make a move on you during a
Speaker 3: pandemic where he's locked down and can't go nowhere. So
Speaker 3: she said screw it, and she made the first move
Speaker 3: and kissed him. And that's how they got together. And
Speaker 3: I will say this too a lot of times. We
Speaker 3: all know this. What happens when two people who don't
Speaker 3: like you get together. What happens when two friends who
Speaker 3: can't stand you start hanging out. They bond over their
Speaker 3: mutual hatred of you. So the man she rejected for
Speaker 3: fifteen years and the sister who's mad about only being
Speaker 3: thirty three percent of the winning team are now Tonguekison,
Speaker 3: We just fanna happen. So when you're like, why is
Speaker 3: she being violent? Why is she being so mad? Why
Speaker 3: she's saying I hate you. What I don't like you too?
Speaker 3: I hate you it's because she's lying down next to
Speaker 3: the man who she secretly believes probably chose her as
Speaker 3: a second choice.
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Speaker 2: is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's
Speaker 2: get back into the show. The second choice. There's some
Speaker 2: think about Kim Kardashing being a part of this family.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, and I have
Speaker 2: nine siblings, so I know all about like what it's
Speaker 2: like to be among siblings and certain people are rated
Speaker 2: a certain way.
Speaker 1: I know, I know all about that very very well.
Speaker 2: To your point, there is something interesting about Courtney always
Speaker 2: feeling second fiddle to Kim in terms of listen, Cory
Speaker 2: is not a bad looking girl at all at all.
Speaker 1: She's a beautiful woman.
Speaker 2: She is the oldest, right, Kim has always been considered
Speaker 2: the pretty sister. Not I mean, that's just listen, gud,
Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation the public social media magazines,
Speaker 2: they always consider Kim the prettier sister and Courtney to
Speaker 2: be second. The Kardashians were successful as a reality show,
Speaker 2: as we said earlier, because of court and Scott's real
Speaker 2: life issues, but at the end of the day, Kim
Speaker 2: would get invited to the Playboy Mansion to do talk
Speaker 2: shows by herself, and Kim ran that show and became
Speaker 2: the face of the Kardashians. So once again, Courtney, giving
Speaker 2: a lot of reality, was still second fiddle. Everything Courtney
Speaker 2: has probably witnessed as this show has happened.
Speaker 1: She's always second to Kim. And now to be in a.
Speaker 2: Marriage to where you have to deal with the reality
Speaker 2: of your husband's book, where he talks about the sister
Speaker 2: who's always winning, who's always winning, how he was obsessed
Speaker 2: with her, how he was dating Paris Hilton, but he
Speaker 2: could not keep his eyes off of the girl who
Speaker 2: did her closet, How he took her out on dates,
Speaker 2: they watched five works together. He wrote how his then
Speaker 2: wife had a problem with his obsession over Kim. So
Speaker 2: to know that all of this has been happening, I
Speaker 2: now may understand why it went from like you said,
Speaker 2: I don't like you, Kim because you're just whatever, to
Speaker 2: wait a second, you literally said I.
Speaker 1: Hate you and you're a witch.
Speaker 2: And when she said a witch, I'd never understood why that,
Speaker 2: because I thought you swapped a W with the B
Speaker 2: and call her what you want to call her the witch.
Speaker 2: Things interesting is because Courtney has been studying spirituality and
Speaker 2: all these things, and I'm going someplace with these guys.
Speaker 2: Her calling Kim a witch to me is deep because
Speaker 2: what you're saying is everything you've done to get famous
Speaker 2: hasn't been natural, It hasn't been God given. This is
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking Courtney's alleging. And she feels like you
Speaker 2: get everything handed to you, get all these opportunities.
Speaker 1: You must be a witch. You must be doing some.
Speaker 2: Voodoo or something to sustain the success you have. And
Speaker 2: that's why Courtney, who said this on camera, I don't
Speaker 2: like hanging out with you all. I feel like Courtney
Speaker 2: looks at this Kardashian world the way Rob Kardashian looked
Speaker 2: at it, which is why he exits stage lefton and
Speaker 2: never coming back. I think Courtney hates what this has become.
Speaker 2: And the only reason, the only reason Courtney who hates
Speaker 2: her sister, she said it, who doesn't like to be
Speaker 2: around her family, she said it.
Speaker 1: She hates the show, she said it.
Speaker 2: The only reason she's doing the show is because she
Speaker 2: is the only thing that keeps her relevant because at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, without the show, no one's
Speaker 2: checking for Pooch, nobody.
Speaker 3: She's trying to be the broke man's Gwyneth Paltrow. It's
Speaker 3: not working right, and so you're to your point. It
Speaker 3: is unnatural to be the firstborn and always the second choice.
Speaker 3: And another first that we didn't talk about is Travis
Speaker 3: wrote in the book as well, Kim is the first
Speaker 3: woman I ever wanted to properly court in my entire life,
Speaker 3: not even his wife. What Kim is he's like his
Speaker 3: exact words, word, it's weird. He used the word weird.
Speaker 3: It's weird that in my entire life, she's the first
Speaker 3: woman I've ever wanted to properly. Court I'm not used
Speaker 3: to being a gentleman like this.
Speaker 1: And this is after he was married married to Shana.
Speaker 3: This is after the marriage. Kim is still his first.
Speaker 3: So I need you, honey, And okay, you know what's
Speaker 3: so wild about this is the fact that, like so,
Speaker 3: chimis cast a spell according to Courtney, and Courtney's mad.
Speaker 3: My thing is you just mentioned something beautiful. Rob didn't
Speaker 3: like it. He left, Kyli didn't like it. She left
Speaker 3: to me. My issue isn't her resentment. I understand her resentment.
Speaker 3: My issue is her trying to take a kill shot
Speaker 3: from inside the house. We're talking about the external public.
Speaker 3: Chris Jenner is the most scary person, right, but when
Speaker 3: we're talking about inside the house, the most dangerous person
Speaker 3: inside the house of the Empire is Courtney. Because everybody else,
Speaker 3: when they don't like what's happening, they just leave. Courtney
Speaker 3: wants to burn it down on her way out.
Speaker 2: That's what Oh my gosh, not to cut you off,
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry you guys don't understand.
Speaker 1: This is the stuff that I I can talk about
Speaker 1: per weeks.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, are you saying that alleged leg Courtney
Speaker 2: is on the show and staying on the show because
Speaker 2: she wants to burn the fucking house out?
Speaker 3: Carry from that movie? She wants to burn it down
Speaker 3: on her way out. She does not want it to
Speaker 3: exist after she leaves. The other siblings just left. She
Speaker 3: wants to burn it down. And what's the best way
Speaker 3: to burn down a popular person by attacking the way
Speaker 3: they're perceived by their adoring public. Oh honey, this is chess,
Speaker 3: not checkers.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Because this is the
Speaker 2: one thing that I always thought was interesting. If you
Speaker 2: watch the premiere of The Kardashians on Hulu, they keep
Speaker 2: talking about how they watch the edit. I watched the edit.
Speaker 2: We have editing control. We can take out what we
Speaker 2: want to take out. We could keep in what we
Speaker 2: want to keep in, which, by the way, Chris Jenner,
Speaker 2: that's powerful. It is like to be able to say
Speaker 2: I don't like that, take it out.
Speaker 1: And they had no choice but to do it.
Speaker 2: I always thought it was interesting, like, why are y'all
Speaker 2: keeping some of the stuff in that really does paint
Speaker 2: him to be this, like you said, this narcissist and
Speaker 2: to keep in some of these things y'all are saying
Speaker 2: about each other.
Speaker 1: And always felt with Courtney, like, just leave the show.
Speaker 1: You got the money.
Speaker 2: Could you keep saying I don't care about the money
Speaker 2: and if that's the case, then leave the show. But
Speaker 2: it would make sense if she's saying, no, I'm going
Speaker 2: to expose who this family is and ruin their reputation
Speaker 2: so that when this show goes away, is going away
Speaker 2: because of me. So what's interesting is Courtney Kardashian maybe
Speaker 2: the Ronan Pharaoh of Calabasas.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, she's trying to burn it from the inside. She's
Speaker 3: the most dangerous person in that room while pretending to
Speaker 3: be the victim. And that's why I called BS into
Speaker 3: that video. I watch Jim of Thrones way too much
Speaker 3: to pop off of this.
Speaker 1: Mm mmm, y.
Speaker 3: No, she's not innocent. She's not innocent at all, And
Speaker 3: people are like, oh my god, poor Courtney. I'm like,
Speaker 3: poor Cortney. She's the scariest one in thatvitch. Are you
Speaker 3: serious poor who She's brilliant, but she's playing stupid. Wa
Speaker 3: wait wait, I'm so. And the sad part is Travis
Speaker 3: recently did a podcast where we're talking about how much
Speaker 3: he hates Courtney. I mean, come Chloe and Kim for
Speaker 3: ganging up on Courtney. Courtney's entire existence was gang up
Speaker 3: and her sister for the first three seasons. The thing
Speaker 3: and that she did for the first several seasons. He's
Speaker 3: now saying, I can't believe two sisters are ganging up
Speaker 3: against another one? Did you miss Courtney and Chloe take Miami? Like?
Speaker 3: Did you miss all the options?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: That? Was their entire brand was making fun of Kim.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is the only person in the
Speaker 3: Kardashian family who's ever snapped and gotten violent on camera
Speaker 3: is Courtney. She slapped the hell out of the Food
Speaker 3: God about sixteen hundred years ago when he said, what
Speaker 3: do you do other than pop babies and cash checks?
Speaker 3: I'm just curious because Kim cork's twenty seven hours a day.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing about Kim. She's a narcissist. She's
Speaker 3: not assist stick. I don't call her narcissist. She's not
Speaker 3: to stick. But she's a workhorse, and she had somebody
Speaker 3: who's assistic in a workhorse, then somebody running their mouth
Speaker 3: who's lazy, and she slapped that man across the face
Speaker 3: like Ike Turner. She stopped that a man across the
Speaker 3: face and with cameras rolling, and then she had hands
Speaker 3: and feet for Kim a couple of years later. So
Speaker 3: I'm saying, how are you this victim who's above it all?
Speaker 3: Were you the only one throwing blows like Brown Courtney
Speaker 3: pretending to be a victim? Not a good cheer hold.
Speaker 2: So one thing we know about relationships, especially when you're married,
Speaker 2: pillow talk as a motherfucker. Okay, So to your point
Speaker 2: earlier now that I know thanks to you Blue that
Speaker 2: Travis Barker went on a podcast and talked about how
Speaker 2: he doesn't like seeing Kim and Chloe gang up on Courtney.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it.
Speaker 2: Clearly that means when you two are together, to your point,
Speaker 2: y'all are talking cash money shit.
Speaker 1: About this family.
Speaker 2: And that's why it's been this weird shift of Okay,
Speaker 2: my sisters are different.
Speaker 1: Again, I have no siblings. We're all different.
Speaker 2: But I could never imagine saying I hate one of
Speaker 2: my siblings. So when she said, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be around with you guys, I hate you. The fact
Speaker 2: that the family has a no Courtney group chat. I'm
Speaker 2: not wondering this and I want to get your opinion
Speaker 2: on this. Knowing that Travis was in love with Kim,
Speaker 2: obsessed with her, Kim broke up his marriage, according to
Speaker 2: Shana and Travis low Ki admitting it. Obviously people like
Speaker 2: to talk about a woman scorn baby. I can tell
Speaker 2: you this for a fact. There is nothing like a
Speaker 2: man getting his heart broken by a woman that he
Speaker 2: either has and she dumbs some or he really wants
Speaker 2: and he's chasing and she doesn't want him back. There's
Speaker 2: this level of venom we're seeinging with Kanye right like
Speaker 2: he's losing his mind when it comes to Kim. Chris
Speaker 2: Humphries at one point just cap calling Kim a fraud.
Speaker 2: Like when these when these men are angry at these
Speaker 2: women who leave them, they have all this bottle of anger.
Speaker 2: So the fact that you're now dating this woman's sister,
Speaker 2: you're married to her, now she's pregnant with your baby,
Speaker 2: you're pillow talking and you're feeding into that small little
Speaker 2: monster that was already there because you know, Kim has
Speaker 2: always been considered the prettiest sister. Now your husband is
Speaker 2: low key solidifying your concern because Scott Disick was like, whatever,
Speaker 2: she's gorgeous, she's a star.
Speaker 1: She works hard, like who cares? Like, get over it?
Speaker 1: And low key.
Speaker 2: I like the fact that yeah, like Scott's like. Scott
Speaker 2: was probably like who cares?
Speaker 1: Like who cares?
Speaker 2: She has her laying you have yours, like your sister
Speaker 2: is pretty and she works hard. Who gives a fuck.
Speaker 2: But now she has a husband who's like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: agree with you, I agree with you. And now when
Speaker 2: she said I would rather no, when she said I
Speaker 2: am happy because Kim's are you happy?
Speaker 1: She said, I am happy.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm happy that I get to go to Palm
Speaker 2: Springs with my family. And it's like it's Travis isolating
Speaker 2: Courtney from her family so that she can only rely
Speaker 2: on him. But is because that's his revenge on Kim
Speaker 2: not giving him the time of day.
Speaker 3: I think it's both of the revenge. And this is
Speaker 3: the thing that I haven't said anywhere else. I'm breaking
Speaker 3: here with you first. This is one last theory that
Speaker 3: I haven't told anybody not in the social media nowhere.
Speaker 3: Imagine you saw somebody that you really liked, and you
Speaker 3: recognized that you were not their type, and so even
Speaker 3: though your feelings were hurt, you were like, not my type,
Speaker 3: not my type, not my type. And then one day
Speaker 3: they start dating someone who's just like you. I think
Speaker 3: Pete Davidson is the gasoline for Travis. That was the
Speaker 3: way girl, I was waiting to come here.
Speaker 2: I don't have enough gas left in me. I need oxygen. Girl,
Speaker 2: take my temperature.
Speaker 3: I think Pete Davidson was the gas I think Travis
Speaker 3: was the gasoline for Courtney, and Pete Davidson was the
Speaker 3: gasoline for Travis. He was like you, clearly like black men,
Speaker 3: I'm never going to be a black man. I'm never
Speaker 3: gonna be a rapper. Clearly I'm not your type. Where
Speaker 3: different species got it. And then one day you and
Speaker 3: Kanye break up and you bring up somebody who looks
Speaker 3: like he's in my band? What you mean, hell half,
Speaker 3: no fury, Like two haters scorned having a baby together,
Speaker 3: and then they chose to get married in the same
Speaker 3: place that Kim had gotten married. There's no other continents,
Speaker 3: there's no other countries. France was booked. There's all these
Speaker 3: little coincidences. So one Kim is like, wait a minute, you,
Speaker 3: Chris are calling me a hater because allegedly I wasn't
Speaker 3: happy at your wedding, but I was. But y'all got
Speaker 3: married at the same place I got married with the
Speaker 3: same performer forming that from my wedding at my friend's
Speaker 3: house that I introduced you to who I'm doing. So
Speaker 3: it's like they're literally doing like single white female in
Speaker 3: our faces. They're hiding and playing sights. I think that
Speaker 3: Pete Davidson things set Travis off, like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: this whole time I made peace with you, not wanting
Speaker 3: because I wasn't your type. He looks like my cousin,
Speaker 3: what are you doing? What happens to the whole black
Speaker 3: man thing? Like, but that's how he appeased himself.
Speaker 1: Drop the mic round of applause.
Speaker 2: I mean, Sis, you may have just unlocked the biggest
Speaker 2: mystery since the Titanic. I mean, I am gagging because
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm gagging is this. I am a man,
Speaker 2: I am somebody and listen, I'll admit this, and I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people admit this. You're you're onto
Speaker 2: side thing, because not everybody who you're attracted to will
Speaker 2: be attracted back to you. That's that's just the way
Speaker 2: of life, unless you're Beyonce, like everybody wants you and
Speaker 2: women do too. Okay, So I know what it feels
Speaker 2: like to be rejected and being like, Okay, you're just
Speaker 2: not my type. I'm sorry, I'm just not your type.
Speaker 2: I'm not your type. You don't like all of this.
Speaker 2: I can deal with that. I'm not everyone's tight. But
Speaker 2: if I see you with a Carlos King Junior, I
Speaker 2: am gonna be like, now, wait a minute, I have
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: His mind was probably like, hold up, he's not doing Yes,
Speaker 3: he didn't take it to the fireworks, he didn't do
Speaker 3: half the stuff that I did. He just kissed you
Speaker 3: on SNL. That's all it took.
Speaker 1: Girl.
Speaker 2: Because I never I literally and I watched this show incessantly.
Speaker 2: I have never once thought about the fact that Pete
Speaker 2: Davison and Travis Barker have the same style look skinny
Speaker 2: white guy, skinny jeans, tatted out piercings. Both look like
Speaker 2: they haven't bathed in two months. Both looked like they
Speaker 2: survived off Corona with the lemon on the side and
Speaker 2: just like you know that that dirty white boy look,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like again like Tommy Lee, like just that that look.
Speaker 2: And I never thought in a million years, based on
Speaker 2: Kim's track record with boyfriends being black, I never thought
Speaker 2: Pete Davison would be somebody she would day. I was
Speaker 2: so confused by that whole relationship. But now that you
Speaker 2: said that, I could see how that affected Travis.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you.
Speaker 2: This, because Kim also ain't no dummy. Was that a
Speaker 2: fuck you that Kim did to Travis's quick Yeah?
Speaker 3: So Carls what you're.
Speaker 1: Saying, I'm a libra like Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 3: My first keep telling me I need to write a
Speaker 3: book just called Libra because i'vedated like seventeen of y'all.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, so what are you?
Speaker 3: I'm an arias Turus cusp the Taurus and nurturing the
Speaker 3: areas makes me fiery, right, and I have been with
Speaker 3: an abnormal amount of libres. The one thing a liber
Speaker 3: knows how to do is to get you where it hurts,
Speaker 3: on the low low, when nobody's looking. You guys, do petty, passive,
Speaker 3: petty like nobody's business, and Kim's like, oh, that's cute.
Speaker 3: So you want to sleep with my leftovers, then I'll
Speaker 3: look like a richer version of y'all Travis and Courtney
Speaker 3: look like a broke band's version of Kim and the
Speaker 3: other Man. The other Impete, Like, think about if you
Speaker 3: have Kim and Pete and then you have the acme
Speaker 3: version of them, Like, come on, I don't think this
Speaker 3: is a coincidence. I think what's happening is Courtney is
Speaker 3: out to get Kim, and Kim just has has less
Speaker 3: more lose so she can, like once in a while,
Speaker 3: be petty and then go back to being completely rich
Speaker 3: and successful. Courtney's I'll hear hockeing brands that nobody wants,
Speaker 3: so she has plenty of free time. So Kim has
Speaker 3: been petty. In return, Kim clocks what's happening. Someone asked
Speaker 3: him in a Q and A, Hey, Kim, did you
Speaker 3: ever sleep with Travis. She's like, no, We've been friends
Speaker 3: for years. He's friends with the family. Who time She
Speaker 3: want to be keykeying to herself like yea, he wanted this.
Speaker 1: Because she didn't have to answer that.
Speaker 3: She didn't have to answer her her choosing. That's another thing.
Speaker 3: Her choosing of the million questions to pull out the
Speaker 3: Travis question. That's some libra shit.
Speaker 1: As a libra, that's I'm like, okay, bitch.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh somebody else noticed he wanted me. Let
Speaker 3: me just answer this real quick. A month of the
Speaker 3: millions of other questions I could have asked, come on, man,
Speaker 3: game recognized game. Mother has lived too long to fall
Speaker 3: for these. And that's the thing. Now that the audience
Speaker 3: has the key code, the show is very much more fun.
Speaker 3: It's much more fun watching the show when you're clear
Speaker 3: about what's happening.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's it's beyond enjoyable.
Speaker 2: It was so funny about all of this is I
Speaker 2: think Courtney is an airy.
Speaker 3: Yes and answer either love each other or want to
Speaker 3: kill each other?
Speaker 2: There, okay, because give me the tea on that. So
Speaker 2: I'm a libra, you're an air.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: What's the t on aries and libra?
Speaker 2: So that we can also have another way of defining
Speaker 2: Kim Accortney's relationships.
Speaker 3: So the way the zodiac works is it's a circle.
Speaker 3: So we're all sitting across from somebody at a circular table.
Speaker 3: Whoever is sitting directly across you can see you the clearest,
Speaker 3: which means they can either love you the best or
Speaker 3: hurt you the easiest. Because they have a clear shot,
Speaker 3: they can take a clear shot. So whenever you have
Speaker 3: a sign directly across from you, that's your sister sign,
Speaker 3: which means you're either gonna best these or enemies. There's
Speaker 3: no one between. For aris, it's libra, and so libras
Speaker 3: and aries can either heal each other or harm each
Speaker 3: other in a way that nobody else can. And so
Speaker 3: it's just funny that they're diametrically a post sign and
Speaker 3: they're having a battle of wills. Kim says, being that
Speaker 3: girl comes naturally to me. You're literally eating my leftovers.
Speaker 3: Whatever you say, Hell, are you okay?
Speaker 1: You good?
Speaker 3: Because I want to go back to winning. And Courtney's like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna brurn it all down right. And the thing
Speaker 3: is she recognizes that people with positions of power are
Speaker 3: unsympathetic Carlos, neither one of us are sympathetic characters. We're
Speaker 3: both successful in our own right, we're both articulate, we
Speaker 3: both know how to stay on our own if someone
Speaker 3: wants to come over right now, and kick us in
Speaker 3: the shin. If we yelled too loud, we would look
Speaker 3: like the bad guys, even though we were attacked. And
Speaker 3: Courtney knows that. That's why she's the manipulative victim. She
Speaker 3: knows that because Kim is too powerful and too pretty
Speaker 3: and too successful to like ever be sympathetic, all she
Speaker 3: has to do is repeat what the blogs say, and
Speaker 3: people are predisposed to side with her, whether she's making
Speaker 3: sense or not. And she's weaponized, like weaponizing that against
Speaker 3: the audience. The audience is getting gas lit. For those
Speaker 3: of you who don't know how to use that word correctly,
Speaker 3: this is what gaslighting actually looks like. It's brilliant. It's demious,
Speaker 3: but it's brilliant.
Speaker 2: Which is why do you remember the episode where this
Speaker 2: is like Keeping up the Kardashian where Kim had her
Speaker 2: video game and she had like the the manufacturer create
Speaker 2: images of like her family the avatars. Yeah, the avatars, right,
Speaker 2: and so Courtney was a part of the game and
Speaker 2: Courtney again at this time, I was like, I'm confused.
Speaker 2: Courtney was so mad because she said, Kim, you did
Speaker 2: not ask my permission. She said, look, I told you
Speaker 2: guys about it. I didn't know how to send you
Speaker 2: a letter saying I'm using your image and likeness but whatever.
Speaker 2: And I remember Scott saying, oh my god, just buy
Speaker 2: her a pair of shoes, and Kim said, not quote
Speaker 2: buy her a pair of shoes.
Speaker 1: I bought her a fucking career.
Speaker 3: Ding ding ding ding ding, Libra tapping in from he
Speaker 3: tapped into work that day, ding ding ding. That is
Speaker 3: that was the most liberate thing Kim Kardashian has ever
Speaker 3: slipped up on set on camera. I was like, ooh, child,
Speaker 3: here's you go. Her whole charge just popped up. Shout
Speaker 3: out to the libras. Y'all know how y'all are. I
Speaker 3: love y'all apparently, but y'all know how y'all are. You
Speaker 3: know what's so wild to me? Is this a term
Speaker 3: that I want to teach this audience, because I do
Speaker 3: always do these shows because I want to educate what
Speaker 3: we're entertaining. It's a term called weaponized incompetence. When you
Speaker 3: are in a relationship and you ask your husband can
Speaker 3: you wash the dishes, and he always makes sure that
Speaker 3: they're slightly dirty, and so you have to do it instead.
Speaker 3: Courtney has been weaponizing and competence in this entire time.
Speaker 3: She's always dragging her feet so that you will leave,
Speaker 3: so that she won't be asked to do anything, but
Speaker 3: still be able to cash those checks. She makes everything
Speaker 3: slightly uncomfortable so that you just let her have her
Speaker 3: way so that you can not have a headache. She's
Speaker 3: been doing this the entire time, and so the family
Speaker 3: is like, you're the only one who doesn't want to
Speaker 3: come to work but still wants to get paid.
Speaker 1: You're literally whish to me.
Speaker 3: Whis to me.
Speaker 1: It's narcissistic.
Speaker 3: They're both larcissistic, only one of the the other one
Speaker 3: isn't one thing about Kim.
Speaker 2: Listen, you can say what you want about Kim. The
Speaker 2: reason why I will always rip at Kim, and I'm
Speaker 2: just being honest, is because she owns the fact that
Speaker 2: I always wanted to be famous and I would do
Speaker 2: anything to be famous. Ye all of these other girls
Speaker 2: love to say, like, you know, it's not about the money.
Speaker 2: Kim is money hungry and she's fame hungry, and it's
Speaker 2: okay to own it.
Speaker 1: The fact that this is season.
Speaker 2: Four of the Hulu show and the Kardashians has been
Speaker 2: around since two thousand and seven the fact that on
Speaker 2: the season four premiere they added a clip of Kim saying,
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be famous, and now I'm the
Speaker 2: most famous person in the world, and then goes to
Speaker 2: camera saying like she she's and on the joke, she's like,
Speaker 2: I am living my best life and Courtney is listen.
Speaker 1: Do I think Courtney's happy?
Speaker 2: I think Courtney has created her own universe and she's
Speaker 2: trying to be happy within that universe. But my question
Speaker 2: for you, probab to let you go. Where do Kim
Speaker 2: and Courtney go from here?
Speaker 3: That's a great question for Chris Jender.
Speaker 1: I go to the stores, the work.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I will say this avoidance is not healing. And
Speaker 3: just because courteneys avoiding her family doesn't mean she's healing
Speaker 3: from the pain that she's in because the key of
Speaker 3: it all is all the stems from pain, right, no
Speaker 3: one who, which is why she's always trying to like
Speaker 3: psychoanalyze Kim. I'm like, oh, look at you, Hector projector
Speaker 3: you're projecting all the things that she says that Kim,
Speaker 3: you need to heal, Kim. You make it all about
Speaker 3: you victims. If you are a victim, the whole world
Speaker 3: is out to get you. What's more conceited than that.
Speaker 3: Being a full time victim is the most conceded thing
Speaker 3: you can do as a human being. It's the most
Speaker 3: narcissistic place that you could live from. And so Corter
Speaker 3: lives in this world where the whole family's out to
Speaker 3: get her. So she's such a victim. She's miserable. She's
Speaker 3: avoiding them by being with Travis and them, but like
Speaker 3: she's not healing. And so I think what's gonna happen
Speaker 3: is as long as it brings in ratings, We're gonna
Speaker 3: watch her try to set fires all over the house.
Speaker 3: I think that's what's to come next. We're just gonna
Speaker 3: watch her smearing pool on the walls and trying to
Speaker 3: put everything on fire. And Kim's gonna be, like, I'm
Speaker 3: still the most popular person in the world. Whatever. Just
Speaker 3: last last weekend, they said Kim was off somewhere in Europe,
Speaker 3: and everybody and their mother show up to dinner with her,
Speaker 3: Like they said, like twenty celebrities show up to have
Speaker 3: dinner with Kim Kardashian over the weekend. She's still that girl,
Speaker 3: And so I don't think that's gonna change, right. I
Speaker 3: do think Court is gonna come undone blue.
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian helped announce that Usher was playing in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Marshall.
Speaker 1: Usher did not announce his own announcement.
Speaker 3: She reached with to Kim about his own Siper Bowl performance?
Speaker 1: Did you know this? Did you also know that? For
Speaker 1: other people did what Kim did, but they only used Kim.
Speaker 3: That doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders did it, Odell Beckham, Junr did it? Oh,
Speaker 2: I did not know that they only used Kim. No,
Speaker 2: Kim is always waiting. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: I have never watched America Horror Story in my life.
Speaker 1: She can ever, she.
Speaker 3: Can well, she's acting like Chris in the American Horse Story.
Speaker 3: They cask Kim to play Chris, so it's a little
Speaker 3: bit typecast thing, but she's doing an excellent job. And
Speaker 3: I think, honestly, I think watching him being a baby lawyer,
Speaker 3: being an actress, all these other things. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you this about libs. Y'all can be manipulated sometimes when
Speaker 3: you're low vibrational. But I think God knew that because
Speaker 3: you're so infuriating, he made you charming infuriating liver on
Speaker 3: the planet is ridiculously charming. Nick Cannon usher Will Smith.
Speaker 3: Will Smith smacked the man. I'm still on his side. Okay,
Speaker 3: so she's right, You're all witches. All libs are witches.
Speaker 3: Courtney wasn't wrong about that.
Speaker 1: She wasn't wrong. Can I gag you real quick? Today's
Speaker 1: my birthday.
Speaker 3: That that was your birthday?
Speaker 1: Tell let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: For a Libra to work on their birthday goes to
Speaker 2: show you that at the end of the day we
Speaker 2: are about work. Because I was like, I have an
Speaker 2: episode that dropped, so by the time you guys hear this,
Speaker 2: it'll be October third. So my birthday's October second. And
Speaker 2: I could not have asked for a better birthday present.
Speaker 2: And I mean that I blue let me tell you
Speaker 2: something and rain drops listen up, cause I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: on the record, honey, you are officially a friend to
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I love this.
Speaker 1: I love you have to come back. And I feel
Speaker 1: like we just got started.
Speaker 3: Oh we just got started. And Carls, you're an educated
Speaker 3: pop culture critic and those are my favorite type of
Speaker 3: humans to have These conversations with.
Speaker 1: Honey.
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Speaker 3: I think Instagram and Twitter also at Blue Centric and
Speaker 3: also too, I'll be back with Carlos because we have
Speaker 3: more keykeys that can feel it. And I also just
Speaker 3: want to say, guys, the reason why these conversations are
Speaker 3: important is because when you're watching reality starts, when you're
Speaker 3: watching human nature, it's giving you a mirror to real life.
Speaker 3: There's somebody who's going to watch this. Actually a lot
Speaker 3: of somebodys who are going to watch the show and
Speaker 3: recognize the Courteneys in their lives who have been playing
Speaker 3: victim and gaslighting them. And there's value in that. When
Speaker 3: people said, Blue, you worked in the news, you were
Speaker 3: at CNN, Why are you talking about pop culture and
Speaker 3: reality stars? Because studying human nature serves us all. We
Speaker 3: can all learn something from this. But besides the kekey
Speaker 3: of it all, So thank you for having this really
Speaker 3: intelligent conversation with me. Those are my favorite kinds.
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