1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: You can buy your Allegedly and my Boys mugs, T shirts, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: dot com. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: That's right. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Get your hoodies, your T shirts, and your mugs all 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome to Reality with the King. 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: television with over ten years of production experience. Once a 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: tweeting about. Watch Hey, rain Drops. On today's episode of 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: Reality with the King. I am joined by Blue Telusma, 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: who is a culture critic and writer and Miss Thing 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: doesn't know this, but I enjoy her. On Hollywood Unlocked 18 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: with Jason Lee, I know you did know that? 19 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: Did you idea you knew? 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: Oh honey, I know, and I watch, Yes, I watch you, 21 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: and I'm so proud of you and all the work 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: you're doing. So we are going to talk about the Kardashians, 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: the Kim versus Courtney, and Travis of it all is controversial. Well, 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: my girl Blue has found but let me tell you, 25 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: rain drops how this all came about. And Blue, you 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: don't know this story, honey, So you're going to hear 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: for the first time along with my listeners. Oh here, 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 2: so okay, here I am true true story. This past Saturday, 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: I am in my I'm en route to the gym. 30 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: One of my friends for over twenty years, whose chevromin 31 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: nameless because she was like Carlos, stop talking about MINA podcasts, 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna say her name. 33 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: She sent me this. 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: Video of this beautiful black woman giving this diatrobe of 35 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: Kim and Courtney's beef and how Travis Barker's memoir may 36 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: make sense in terms of what's been going on with 37 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: Kim and Courtney's weird beep. So I'm listening to it 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: and then I'm like, okay. So I land at the gym, 39 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: and then I said, I have to get her on 40 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 2: my podcast. So I found out who was and I said, 41 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, that's a girl in Hollywood unlocked. So 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: I slid to her DMS on a Saturday and said, 43 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: are you able to come on my podcast? 44 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: And here she is, So thank you for this quick 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: turn around, my love. 46 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: No, if you are one of the few people I 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: would have said yes to do on a Saturday, I 48 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: just want to sh you are a reality show legend. 49 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: I have to give you your flower. 50 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 51 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: So many of the moments that the girls take for granted, 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: you planted that seed, and so I definitely had to 53 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: come for this. I had to because one thing I've 54 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: learned from working with Jason is black media matters, and 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: we tend to be overshadowed by those who grabbed the 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: baton from us and commodify it without giving us our due. 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: So I would have done this for you on a Sunday, 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: even even on The Lord Today. 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: Carlos, Oh, don't make me cry, girl, because the way 60 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: you read Travis Keim mccourtney's trifecta hoodie, I was too 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: busy gagging and crying and laughter. 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: So, if you've been living under rock, the season premiere 64 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: of The Kardashians on Hulu was just released, and Baby, 65 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: this clip that's been floating around all of social media 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: is Kimberly Noel Kardashian esteem actress Hoddy not my Girls acting. 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: She's on a funber Courtney and they're talking about this 68 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: redundant beef of what happened with Kim and Dolce Gavana 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: and Courtney's wedding. I'll spare the details, but what was 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: so magnificent about this conversation? Courtney told Kim, I hate you. 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: You are a witch and you're such a narcissist. You 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: want to be the sense of attention. Kim likes to 73 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: go below the belt. Now what Courtney just said, it's 74 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: also below the belt. But I don't know any person 75 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: who would ever tell a mother your kids even talk 76 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: about you and said we have a group chap called 77 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: no Courtney. So anyways, all of that happened. Blue is 78 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: PI private Eye. Okay, she's inspector Gadget. I won't give 79 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: it away because I want you to. I think Blue 80 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: may have unlocked the mystery in terms of why Kim 81 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: and Courtney this beef that seems to be running on 82 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: a hamster. 83 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: Whell so Blue take it away, my sister. 84 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I have to tell everyone is, 85 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: please don't tell me about how evil Kim is. I 86 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: never said Kim was an angel, So everybody wasted their 87 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 3: time and their Twitter fingers telling me Kim wasn't an angel. 88 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: I never said she was. It's irrelevant, right, and so 89 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: that's the first thing I have to say. The second 90 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: thing is I do think the person who started the 91 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: beef was Chris Jenner because she created this ecosystem of 92 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: whoever makes the most money's her favorite, and then she'll 93 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: talk about it on camera, kekey about it. So Chris 94 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: Jenner started it. I'm gonna say that, Carlos, you invited me. 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 3: You know who you were inviting. You know what I do. 96 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: Tavis finished it, but Chris started it. 97 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: That's the issue our ros lead to. Chris. 98 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something about how much I investigate. 99 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: So in addition to be a cultural critic, I do 100 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: emotional intelligence coaching. So everything that I do is the 101 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: lens of psychology, and the Kardashian Jenner's actually represent six 102 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: psychological archetypes that the audience is going to immediately recognize. 103 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: Chris Jenner, she is the puppet master. We all know 104 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: that Chris Jenner is a puppet master. Now Courtney Shortest 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: one has the longest name. That's how I tend to 106 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: remember because she's not memorable. Courtney is the manipulative victim, 107 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: so she manipulates through victimhood. 108 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Chris, I mean krim is. 109 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: The narcissistic it girl. So she's not a narcissist, but 110 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: she's narcissistic. And she's the pretty one that everybody pays 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: attention to. Let's call a thing by its name. And 112 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: then we have Chloe, the short name is the tallest one. 113 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: She is the one who's like the people pleasing martyr. 114 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: She'll set herself on fire to keep everybody warm, including 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: wayward black men looking to make mix babies with her. 116 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: And then we have Kendall, who is like the tomboysh 117 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: like pick me, I'm not like the other girls, Yes 118 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: you are. You are exactly like the other girls. Shut up. 119 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: And last, but not least, we have Kylie, who's the 120 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: wild card and the gag is Carlos. The reason why 121 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 3: I knew that Chloe and and Courtney were a little 122 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: bit full of it is because if Courtney really was 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: she said she was, she'd be moving like Kylie. Kylie 124 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: will not show up. She doesn't feel like it, she 125 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: doesn't burn the house down, she finds her boyfriend, she 126 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: makes her baby, she makes her billions. Allegedly, Forbes has 127 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: some beef around that. She makes her money and she 128 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: minds her business. So if Courtney really just wanted to 129 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: be left alone, she could have been left alone. She 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: could have been left alone. I'm calling bs. So that's 131 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: where I wanted to start. 132 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot to unpact there. Okay. 133 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: So Courtney is, in your words, the forgettable one because 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: she's not memorable, right. 135 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: Okay, memorable by proximity to other people. 136 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: Okaya, Kim is the pretty one and she's narcissistic. 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: It girls, Yeah, okay. 138 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: Chloe's a people pleaser who would set herself on fire 139 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 2: to please anybody in her orbit. Ken though, is picked 140 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: me because she wants to say I'm not like that, 141 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: but you really are. And Kylie to you is the 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: only one who's like, I hate being famous, I hate 143 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: all this shit. I don't like filming. You will never 144 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: see me on the show. I'll be in the main titles. 145 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: I'll do a feto shoot. I may appear here now. 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: You will never ever see me talk about my personal 147 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: life with my man, my baby daddy and Stormy. 148 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: Anybody who likes Courtney really likes Kylie. Courtney is pretending 149 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: to be what Kylie actually is, and that's the gag 150 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: of it all. So all of you were like, no, 151 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: Courtney's down to earth if you were down to earth. 152 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: I said this in the video, and a lot of 153 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: people had a strong feeling about it. The worst kind 154 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: of hater is the one that will sit at the 155 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: table break bread with you and then wait for you 156 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 3: to choke on the bread. That is her problem. She's 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: sitting there at the table, benefiting from being on the show. 158 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: She has final say in the final cut, so she 159 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: knew that episode was coming out the way that it did, 160 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: but will pretend that she's above it. If you really 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: didn't want to be there, you would have been in 162 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: the parking lot with Kylie, like, come on, let's call 163 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: a thing a thing. Belove it? Like she lies so 164 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: much and she manipulates to playing victim and let me 165 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: tell you the realty. Because I did watch a couple 166 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 3: of the old episodes. The only thing that made Courtney 167 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: relevant ever was the fact that she and Chloe we 168 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: used to gang up on Kim because they were making 169 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: fun of Kim for being so fame hungry, and she 170 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: had a debut baby daddy, right, so it was a 171 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: deputy baby daddy, And you and the fat funny one 172 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: are gonna like make fun of the pretty one that 173 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: was her thing. I think the turning point Carls is 174 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: looking at me, Cals, I'm just getting started. 175 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no. This is because the girls need 176 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: to know this. 177 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: I know. 178 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: I've considered this housewise connoisseur, and obviously by proxy is 179 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: because I produced two of the franchises, so I know 180 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: a lot about that that that formula. However, dot Org, 181 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: I am a Cardashing connoisseur. So everything you're saying, I've 182 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: been watching the show since season one. I do not 183 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: miss a season. Even when this season is boring, I'm 184 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: gonna watch it. But no, I'm gagging because me and 185 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: my girl, the girl who referred your video to me, 186 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: she and I always say, look, say what you want. 187 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: Courtney and Scott carry the show because Scott was such 188 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: an anti Kardashing in the sense of he they care 189 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: about the public image. And this is no shade to the 190 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: Kardashian who I love, but they care about the public image. 191 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: And because Scott was the anti that it allowed Courtney 192 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: to be seen in a way because Cam's boyfriends were 193 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: always out of state, so you were able to see 194 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: these daily interactions between Scott and Courtney. But so I 195 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: agree with everything you're saying so far continuous, and you. 196 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: Agree because you like facts. 197 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: So that's how I oh, yeah, I'm a journalist, Hey, Portia. 198 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: Journalistic is you know, I love por journalistic. Integrity matters. 199 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: And the thing that is such a key for me 200 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: is everything that I've said that's been so inflammatory is 201 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: me just repeating the facts. And Scott distic is excellent 202 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: television with people are like, I don't understand why they 203 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: were still friends with Scott even after he broke up 204 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: with Courtney because he's excellent television and their producers and 205 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: they're not stupid. You're not gonna let your cash cow 206 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: go away just because he stopped sleeping with the boring one. 207 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: And so the thing is her value was sleeping with 208 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: Scott and having his storyline be gifted to us Lord 209 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: Disic gold right, and even watching Chloe and Scott because 210 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: they have personalities. I both said, is Courtney's really good 211 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: at finding people who have personalities and kind of just 212 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: standing next to them and winning in their shadow. Right. 213 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: So what ended up happening is Scott got tired of 214 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: putting babies in her because even though we're gonna get 215 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: married her and Chloe got tired of being the funny 216 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: fat one. She was like, we are sitting around collecting 217 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: checks like welfare and not doing nothing and talking shit 218 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: about him. But I would like to feel sexy and pretty. 219 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start working out and trying to look cute 220 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: and start my own brand. And the minute that Chloe 221 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: started working on her fitness and working on her brand 222 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: and finding a work ethic for once, suddenly she couldn't 223 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 3: be a lazy hater with Courtney, and Courtney was left 224 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: to hate her on her own. So she lost baby 225 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: Daddy and she lost her her sidekick, and what does. 226 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: She do with Look that was me dropping the mic girl. Okay, 227 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: so well, honey, my. 228 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: Line in Carlos, that's all I wanted to ask you 229 00:11:59,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: my life? 230 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: Oh my, what have you been on my life? Okay, 231 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: groc listen, this is the gag. 232 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: I can literally talk to you all day, which is 233 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: like kind of sad but just true because I'm so 234 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: invested in this. Okay, so now that we got the 235 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: crux of rehashing the history of everything, because baby, oh child, 236 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: you are on point, explain to the audience what happened 237 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: recently that you discovered, and when I listen, the reason 238 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: why I take the word journalism very seriously is because 239 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: one thing I was taught in college. 240 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: Before I dropped out was that because that's another podcast, because. 241 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: You must cite your sources, and I felt like, in 242 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: this world of social media, everything's opinion based and nobody 243 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: cares about facts anymore. It's all about popular opinion and 244 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: running the gamut of not trying to get like canceled 245 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: because you have an unpopular opinion. One thing you did Blue, 246 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: which is why I said I'm inviting her on not 247 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: only because I'm aware of her journalistic background. You did 248 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: your research, you cited your sources, and you were reading 249 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: things that I'm like, girlfriend, I meg on Amazon dot com. 250 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Use my audible points, honey, and buy the memoir of 251 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: Travis Barker because you spilled the tea. So explain to 252 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: us what you uncovered that could explain why Courtney is 253 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: so mad at Kim. 254 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: She spilled with Hey, well, every journalist needs a moment 255 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: where they're like, hey, I think there's a story here. 256 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: And for me, the moment was when Chris Jenner told 257 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 3: One Life too Many, because she went on and she 258 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: was like, you know, Courtney, Travis told me that in 259 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven he bought a house in Calabasas 260 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: because he knew you were the love of his life 261 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: and you knew that one day you'd be free and 262 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: that he'd be able to like be with you. And 263 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: I was like, Noah, wait a minute, did Travis even 264 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: know Cordney in two thousand and seven? And I was like, 265 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: and I started thinking about things that I had heard 266 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: in the ether, like in two thousand and seven, he 267 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: was dating Paris Hilton and Paris was hanging out with Kim. 268 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: So that's what made me realize that, wait a minute, 269 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: I think that story is true, but I think the 270 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: names were switched. I was like, I think Chris just 271 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: took Kim's story and tried to assign it to the Deadbeat. 272 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh man, now I got to 273 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: investigate this. So I got to researching, and let me 274 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: tell you, Travis needs to give her to that book 275 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: or pay me for pr FS because I feel like 276 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: his sales are going to skyrocket on Amazon ever since 277 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: the video went viral because the book he told on himself, 278 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: and I'm someone who has a lot of straight male friends, 279 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: and I literally said, hey, from when I read in 280 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: the book, do you agree with what I'm coming up 281 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: to the like? No, as a man, I completely agree 282 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: with what you're saying. Because in the book he says 283 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: he broke up with Shennamochler. Paris was his rebound. She 284 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: was like the it girl back then. Kim was the help. 285 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: She was rich, but she was still the help, let's 286 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: be honest. And she was driving Paris around and designing 287 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: her closets and whatnot, trying to get famous, wait in 288 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: for a look. And when they went to Amsterdam, Paris 289 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: brought Kim with her, and Travis wrote in his book, 290 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: I know I was dating Paris Hilton, but I couldn't 291 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: keep my eyes off of him. She's just so damn hot. 292 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: I told all my boys in that trip, I know 293 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm with Paris, but I can't keep my eyes off 294 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: of him. And then he said that even when him 295 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: and Kim like came home, he slid into her and 296 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: they didn't have DMS back then. He hit up, heard 297 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: her cricket whatever, she had a BlackBerry. He hit her 298 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: up and tried to continue a friendship and even gave 299 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: her advice when she was thinking about doing the show 300 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: with Ryan Seacrest. So this is pre the show. Before 301 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: the show even started, Travis was like, I got my 302 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: eyes on this one, and she's in a relationship with 303 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: ray J. But like most dudes when they have a 304 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: pretty female friend, I'm a wait. And then in the 305 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: book he says, the minute the sex kick came out 306 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: and I found out that ray J and Kim had 307 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: broken up, I hit her up and started taking her 308 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: on lunch and dinner dates. And I bought a house 309 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: in Calabasa so I could be closer to her. 310 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: So the whole story wait wait. 311 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 5: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait 312 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 5: wait wait wait okay, okay, because we got to dissect 313 00:15:53,400 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 5: that you're saying that Chris Jenner said on The Kardashian Show, 314 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 5: and so this is the Hulu show. 315 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: Well, there's been so many shows, it's one of them. 316 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: I know, there's been so many shows. But she said 317 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: on their reality show. 318 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so Chris, you're alleging or is it alleging or 319 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: is it true, because obviously you got to preceive. So 320 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: Chris Jenner said on her reality show that in two 321 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: thousand and seven, oh my gosh, Travis moved to Calabasas 322 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: to be close to the Courtney. But in fact, you 323 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: have read in this man's memoir in Black and White 324 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: that when he was dating Paris Hilton. 325 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Because the way it works in Hollywood. 326 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: Guys and in hip hop, everybody, that's a whole nother 327 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: podcast says, Hey, the way it works in Hollywood and 328 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: hip hop, you sort of update the it girl within 329 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: that subculture, and Paris Hilton at the time in Hollywood 330 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: was the it girl. So Travis Barker being the rock star, 331 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: it was sort of like everybody wanted their own version 332 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: of Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson. Like that's kind of 333 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: what that world is, sort of like airby Rapper now 334 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: wants their Beyonce. Every body and the hip hop wants 335 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: Beyonce and jay Z. That's why you know what, Let 336 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: me stop. That's another podcast they will do, like. 337 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 3: I'm hearing podcast Carlos. 338 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: But yes, okay, that's the whole dot of bubble deal 339 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: for my brain drops. So what happened was he wrote 340 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: in the book that he moved to Calabasas to be 341 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: close to him. 342 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing. He didn't connect them. He 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: was smart. He wrote that he moved to Calabasas after 344 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: the divorce and that he was smitten with Kim, who 345 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: just happened to live in Calabasas. So twenty years later, 346 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: when Chris is lying and saying, well, he said he 347 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 3: moved to Calabasas because he thought the love of his 348 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: life lived there. That's when I pulled out a calculator 349 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: and started doing math. That's what happened. I carried the 350 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: one Carlos, and I found a lie. So that's what happened. 351 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: It was so funny because they keep peace smelling the truth. 352 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: So if you just put all the pieces and you 353 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: start rearraising me like, oh wait a minute, if he's 354 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: telling the mom I moved to Calabasas in two thousand 355 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 3: and seven because I thought I had met the love 356 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: of my life. And in the book he's saying in 357 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, I was singing with Kim Kardashian 358 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: and Courtney's name is nowhere in sight. It doesn't take 359 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: a rocket scientist to figure out that one plus one 360 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: is still too right. So I was like, wait a minute, 361 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 3: and then people are saying, well, Blue, that was fifteen 362 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: years ago. Some of y'all said, twenty, I need you 363 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: to learn how account that was fifteen years ago, and 364 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: so maybe he got over it. Uh eight years later, 365 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: after he had tried to mac on him and she 366 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: had friend zoned him. When he wrote his memoir, he 367 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: used the chapter about Kim as his publicity chapter. And Carlos, 368 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: everybody in the industry knows the story that you extrapolate 369 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: from a memoir to be the thing that you talk 370 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: to the press about is the thing that you think 371 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: it's going to be shining that you want to exemplify. 372 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: And as a man who's trying to get with a girl, 373 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: he's probably thinking, well, it's been eight years, maybe she's 374 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: still interested. Maybe if I talk in public to us 375 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: weekly the Bible of celebrity back then about how much 376 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: I used to be in love with her, maybe she'll 377 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: hit me up because we're still friends, Like, come on, 378 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: let's be honest. Eight years later, we made her the 379 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: focal point of the memoir when he. 380 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: Was public, So when he was on the promo trail 381 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: promoting his memoile, which is true. 382 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: So when a. 383 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: Celebrity has autobiography and memoile, or any book for that matter, 384 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Kerry Washington. For example, Kerry Washington just 385 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: wrote a book, It's her biography, and on the promo trail, 386 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: what every publication news interviews talking about is the fact 387 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: that her biological father was a sperm donor, and she 388 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: had an abortion, and she almost committed suicide. So these 389 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: are things that she's talking about from the book in 390 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: order for people to be excited to buy the book. 391 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: So what you're saying is Travis used a chapter amongs 392 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: his life story and his whole life story as a 393 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: rock star. He used for the public promo of this book, 394 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: the chapter about Kimberly Noel Kardashian. 395 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: I couldn't keep my eyes off of her. That quote 396 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 3: was plastered everywhere at the time. I couldn't keep my 397 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: eyes off of her. I know she was I know 398 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: she was the closet girl, but I just couldn't keep 399 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: my eyes off of her. And mind you, at this point, 400 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: he's been hanging out at DASH and he's now a 401 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: family friend. So again, like I said in the video, 402 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: while Courtney's popping out babies and eating out of my 403 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: man fighting with Scott. Travis is coming over to the 404 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: store for a key. He's still looking at him and 405 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: Courtney seeing this, so it's not like she didn't know. 406 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: We all know as women, we all know when one 407 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: of our homegirls has that one guy who was obviously 408 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: in love with her, We're like, girl, he doesn't even 409 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: he doesn't even buy Woman's closed. Why is he back 410 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: in here? And what makes the tea even hotter is 411 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: when he couldn't get Kim to like him when she 412 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: friend zoned him, he actually briefly went back to Shana 413 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: Mochler and Shanna Moechler said the reason why my marriage 414 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: didn't reconcile was because Travis was still in love with Kim, 415 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: and Travis in the memoir substantiates that he said, even 416 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: when I tried to get back with my ex wife, 417 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: I couldn't keep my mind off of Kim. He wrote 418 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: that in. 419 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Whoa Wait, hold up, wait a minute, hold up, wait 420 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: wait wait wait you okay? Is this alleged or you 421 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: have the receipts for this too? Shanna Muckler said, what 422 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: and she said this on TV in an interview. 423 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: What did she say? 424 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: A lot of different places. The first place she said 425 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 3: it was when she got upset she went to when 426 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: she found out that Travis was now dating and Tongukis 427 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: and Courtney all over the place. She like, wait a minute, 428 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 3: that's not the Kardashian. That's not the one that ended 429 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: our marriage. It was the other one. So she ran 430 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: off to us Weekly and said, now, hold up, I 431 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: don't understand Kim is the one that broke up my marriage. 432 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: And Travis even said in an interview while he was 433 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: promoting the book, he said, Yo, I feel bad because 434 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: even though it was Shanna, I couldn't stop thinking about Kim. 435 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: And Shanna found out and she and Kim got into 436 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: a fight at Carmen Electric's party, and Shanna threw a 437 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: drink on her girl. Travis Travis's own mouth. I'm not 438 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 3: making this up. It came out of his own mouth. 439 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: Let's have a moment of silence for for the receipts. 440 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, Sdi, the receipt is receipting. 441 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: So why does Shana feel like Kim Kardashian broke up 442 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: her marriage? Did Kim Kardashian and Travis have a sexual relationship. 443 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: Did they flirty text? Like, did something happen that we 444 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: don't know about? 445 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: Kim and Travis are claiming that they never touched. It 446 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: was just flirty dates and watching the fireworks together and 447 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: holding hands and such. Because adults who are rich who 448 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 3: go to fireworks don't have sex. Ever, that's not a thing, right, 449 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: Shanna says BS. She said, we had mutual friends who 450 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: was watching y'all together. My friends took your phone and 451 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: sent me screenshots of all your text messages, so I 452 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 3: read the entire exchange. Y'all were smashing, and that's when 453 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: my marriage failed and the reason why we Shanna even 454 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: got pulled in this because Alabama consuck. What's the girl's name, 455 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: the daughter who wants to be like ah ah she 456 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: because she's a little Alabama Goo. Tennessee did a screenshot 457 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: of her conversation where her mama and posted it on 458 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: Instagram and forgot to black out the part that says, 459 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: you know, me and your daddy broke up because he 460 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: was in love with Kim, right, so you're own like 461 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: she's telling her children, our family is broken up because 462 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: of his obsession with Kim Kardashian and and and the 463 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 3: mental giant that she is. She posted this on Instagram 464 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: and didn't black out that part. So why I tell 465 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: you the receipts are having babies. At this point, I 466 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: can't get sued. I'm just reading. 467 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: Now, Honey. 468 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, what you're talking about 469 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: are things in a book and backed up by an 470 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: interview of these people saying this out loud and and 471 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: in a book. 472 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: So listen. Allegedly, you. 473 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: And Shana and Travis, yes we're all on the course. 474 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: Yes, all four of us got to me. 475 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: So allegedly you do believe that Kim and Travis. 476 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: Smashed. 477 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: I believe that something non platonic happened. This is me 478 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: using my journalistic integrity. I believe something more than platonic 479 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: and perhaps less than a relationship happened. And emotional cheating 480 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: is still cheating, by the way, so I don't want 481 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: to act like unless somebody puts the plug in the socket, 482 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 3: it doesn't count as cheating. I do believe emotional cheating 483 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: and cheating. And Shanna is saying that my marriage didn't 484 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: work because he was obsessed with Kim, and Travis is 485 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: saying I can stop thinking about Kim during my marriage 486 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: so they actually agree on this. 487 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: They agree on. 488 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: This, and this is the gag, right. Somebody said, what's 489 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 3: happening with Travis and Courtney and Kim is like, if 490 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: you really want chapotlet, but you set up for Taco Bell. 491 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: Somebody wrote down in the comments. I want to give 492 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: them their credit. I didn't make it up. I just 493 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: work here, Carlos, I just work here. And so you're 494 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: gonna eat it. You might not want it, but you're 495 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: gonna eat it. It's still a taco, right. And so 496 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: when Portney herself is telling their love story, she's talking 497 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: about how it's the pandemic. She's hanging out with this 498 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: man every single day and he's not making a move. 499 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: Every single day she's in his face looking like thirty 500 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: three percent of his dream girl, and he's not making 501 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: no move of her. And she said that they went 502 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: through a movie date and you know what, she said, 503 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: screw it, and she made the first move and she 504 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: tongu kissed them and jumped on him. A man who 505 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: was willing to move the Calabasas and wait for ray 506 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: J to slip up just to have a chance. Couldn't 507 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 3: even kiss you while you were in his face for 508 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: the pandemic when he had nowhere else to go. Anybody 509 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: who knows how men work something is fishy. Courtney's the 510 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: one who coached Travis. It wasn't the other way around. 511 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: Her own words, Courtney said out of her own mouth 512 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: that she's the one who approached He was. 513 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: Too shy to make a move. He wasn't shy when 514 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: he was buying real estate in Calabasas, but he was 515 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: too shy to make a move on you during a 516 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: pandemic where he's locked down and can't go nowhere. So 517 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: she said screw it, and she made the first move 518 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 3: and kissed him. And that's how they got together. And 519 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: I will say this too a lot of times. We 520 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: all know this. What happens when two people who don't 521 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 3: like you get together. What happens when two friends who 522 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: can't stand you start hanging out. They bond over their 523 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: mutual hatred of you. So the man she rejected for 524 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: fifteen years and the sister who's mad about only being 525 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 3: thirty three percent of the winning team are now Tonguekison, 526 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: We just fanna happen. 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Let's 569 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: get back into the show. The second choice. There's some 570 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: think about Kim Kardashing being a part of this family. 571 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, and I have 572 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: nine siblings, so I know all about like what it's 573 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: like to be among siblings and certain people are rated 574 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: a certain way. 575 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know all about that very very well. 576 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: To your point, there is something interesting about Courtney always 577 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: feeling second fiddle to Kim in terms of listen, Cory 578 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: is not a bad looking girl at all at all. 579 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: She's a beautiful woman. 580 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: She is the oldest, right, Kim has always been considered 581 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: the pretty sister. Not I mean, that's just listen, gud, 582 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: Let's have a real conversation the public social media magazines, 583 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: they always consider Kim the prettier sister and Courtney to 584 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: be second. The Kardashians were successful as a reality show, 585 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: as we said earlier, because of court and Scott's real 586 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: life issues, but at the end of the day, Kim 587 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: would get invited to the Playboy Mansion to do talk 588 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: shows by herself, and Kim ran that show and became 589 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: the face of the Kardashians. So once again, Courtney, giving 590 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: a lot of reality, was still second fiddle. Everything Courtney 591 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: has probably witnessed as this show has happened. 592 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: She's always second to Kim. And now to be in a. 593 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: Marriage to where you have to deal with the reality 594 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: of your husband's book, where he talks about the sister 595 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: who's always winning, who's always winning, how he was obsessed 596 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: with her, how he was dating Paris Hilton, but he 597 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: could not keep his eyes off of the girl who 598 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: did her closet, How he took her out on dates, 599 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: they watched five works together. He wrote how his then 600 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: wife had a problem with his obsession over Kim. So 601 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: to know that all of this has been happening, I 602 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: now may understand why it went from like you said, 603 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: I don't like you, Kim because you're just whatever, to 604 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: wait a second, you literally said I. 605 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Hate you and you're a witch. 606 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: And when she said a witch, I'd never understood why that, 607 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: because I thought you swapped a W with the B 608 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: and call her what you want to call her the witch. 609 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: Things interesting is because Courtney has been studying spirituality and 610 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: all these things, and I'm going someplace with these guys. 611 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: Her calling Kim a witch to me is deep because 612 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: what you're saying is everything you've done to get famous 613 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: hasn't been natural, It hasn't been God given. This is 614 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: what I'm thinking Courtney's alleging. And she feels like you 615 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: get everything handed to you, get all these opportunities. 616 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: You must be a witch. You must be doing some. 617 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: Voodoo or something to sustain the success you have. And 618 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: that's why Courtney, who said this on camera, I don't 619 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: like hanging out with you all. I feel like Courtney 620 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: looks at this Kardashian world the way Rob Kardashian looked 621 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: at it, which is why he exits stage lefton and 622 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: never coming back. I think Courtney hates what this has become. 623 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: And the only reason, the only reason Courtney who hates 624 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: her sister, she said it, who doesn't like to be 625 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 2: around her family, she said it. 626 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: She hates the show, she said it. 627 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: The only reason she's doing the show is because she 628 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: is the only thing that keeps her relevant because at 629 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: the end of the day, without the show, no one's 630 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: checking for Pooch, nobody. 631 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: She's trying to be the broke man's Gwyneth Paltrow. It's 632 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 3: not working right, and so you're to your point. It 633 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: is unnatural to be the firstborn and always the second choice. 634 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: And another first that we didn't talk about is Travis 635 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: wrote in the book as well, Kim is the first 636 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: woman I ever wanted to properly court in my entire life, 637 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: not even his wife. What Kim is he's like his 638 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: exact words, word, it's weird. He used the word weird. 639 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: It's weird that in my entire life, she's the first 640 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: woman I've ever wanted to properly. Court I'm not used 641 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: to being a gentleman like this. 642 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: And this is after he was married married to Shana. 643 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: This is after the marriage. Kim is still his first. 644 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: So I need you, honey, And okay, you know what's 645 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: so wild about this is the fact that, like so, 646 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: chimis cast a spell according to Courtney, and Courtney's mad. 647 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: My thing is you just mentioned something beautiful. Rob didn't 648 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: like it. He left, Kyli didn't like it. She left 649 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: to me. My issue isn't her resentment. I understand her resentment. 650 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: My issue is her trying to take a kill shot 651 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: from inside the house. We're talking about the external public. 652 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 3: Chris Jenner is the most scary person, right, but when 653 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 3: we're talking about inside the house, the most dangerous person 654 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: inside the house of the Empire is Courtney. Because everybody else, 655 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: when they don't like what's happening, they just leave. Courtney 656 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: wants to burn it down on her way out. 657 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: That's what Oh my gosh, not to cut you off, 658 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry you guys don't understand. 659 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: This is the stuff that I I can talk about 660 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: per weeks. 661 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: Wait a second, are you saying that alleged leg Courtney 662 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: is on the show and staying on the show because 663 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: she wants to burn the fucking house out? 664 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: Carry from that movie? She wants to burn it down 665 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: on her way out. She does not want it to 666 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: exist after she leaves. The other siblings just left. She 667 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: wants to burn it down. And what's the best way 668 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 3: to burn down a popular person by attacking the way 669 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: they're perceived by their adoring public. Oh honey, this is chess, 670 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: not checkers. 671 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Because this is the 672 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: one thing that I always thought was interesting. If you 673 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: watch the premiere of The Kardashians on Hulu, they keep 674 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: talking about how they watch the edit. I watched the edit. 675 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: We have editing control. We can take out what we 676 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: want to take out. We could keep in what we 677 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: want to keep in, which, by the way, Chris Jenner, 678 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: that's powerful. It is like to be able to say 679 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: I don't like that, take it out. 680 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: And they had no choice but to do it. 681 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: I always thought it was interesting, like, why are y'all 682 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 2: keeping some of the stuff in that really does paint 683 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: him to be this, like you said, this narcissist and 684 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 2: to keep in some of these things y'all are saying 685 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: about each other. 686 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: And always felt with Courtney, like, just leave the show. 687 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: You got the money. 688 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: Could you keep saying I don't care about the money 689 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: and if that's the case, then leave the show. But 690 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: it would make sense if she's saying, no, I'm going 691 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: to expose who this family is and ruin their reputation 692 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: so that when this show goes away, is going away 693 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: because of me. So what's interesting is Courtney Kardashian maybe 694 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: the Ronan Pharaoh of Calabasas. 695 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, she's trying to burn it from the inside. She's 696 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: the most dangerous person in that room while pretending to 697 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: be the victim. And that's why I called BS into 698 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: that video. I watch Jim of Thrones way too much 699 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: to pop off of this. 700 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: Mm mmm, y. 701 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 3: No, she's not innocent. She's not innocent at all, And 702 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: people are like, oh my god, poor Courtney. I'm like, 703 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: poor Cortney. She's the scariest one in thatvitch. Are you 704 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: serious poor who She's brilliant, but she's playing stupid. Wa 705 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 3: wait wait, I'm so. And the sad part is Travis 706 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: recently did a podcast where we're talking about how much 707 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 3: he hates Courtney. I mean, come Chloe and Kim for 708 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: ganging up on Courtney. Courtney's entire existence was gang up 709 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: and her sister for the first three seasons. The thing 710 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 3: and that she did for the first several seasons. He's 711 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: now saying, I can't believe two sisters are ganging up 712 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: against another one? Did you miss Courtney and Chloe take Miami? Like? 713 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: Did you miss all the options? 714 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: Like? 715 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: That? Was their entire brand was making fun of Kim. 716 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 3: And the funny thing is the only person in the 717 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 3: Kardashian family who's ever snapped and gotten violent on camera 718 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: is Courtney. She slapped the hell out of the Food 719 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: God about sixteen hundred years ago when he said, what 720 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: do you do other than pop babies and cash checks? 721 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 3: I'm just curious because Kim cork's twenty seven hours a day. 722 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: And that's the thing about Kim. She's a narcissist. She's 723 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: not assist stick. I don't call her narcissist. She's not 724 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: to stick. But she's a workhorse, and she had somebody 725 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: who's assistic in a workhorse, then somebody running their mouth 726 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 3: who's lazy, and she slapped that man across the face 727 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: like Ike Turner. She stopped that a man across the 728 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: face and with cameras rolling, and then she had hands 729 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: and feet for Kim a couple of years later. So 730 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm saying, how are you this victim who's above it all? 731 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 3: Were you the only one throwing blows like Brown Courtney 732 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: pretending to be a victim? Not a good cheer hold. 733 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: So one thing we know about relationships, especially when you're married, 734 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: pillow talk as a motherfucker. Okay, So to your point 735 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 2: earlier now that I know thanks to you Blue that 736 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: Travis Barker went on a podcast and talked about how 737 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't like seeing Kim and Chloe gang up on Courtney. 738 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: He doesn't like it. 739 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: Clearly that means when you two are together, to your point, 740 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 2: y'all are talking cash money shit. 741 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: About this family. 742 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: And that's why it's been this weird shift of Okay, 743 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: my sisters are different. 744 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: Again, I have no siblings. We're all different. 745 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: But I could never imagine saying I hate one of 746 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: my siblings. So when she said, I don't want to 747 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: be around with you guys, I hate you. The fact 748 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 2: that the family has a no Courtney group chat. I'm 749 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: not wondering this and I want to get your opinion 750 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: on this. Knowing that Travis was in love with Kim, 751 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: obsessed with her, Kim broke up his marriage, according to 752 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 2: Shana and Travis low Ki admitting it. Obviously people like 753 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: to talk about a woman scorn baby. I can tell 754 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: you this for a fact. There is nothing like a 755 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: man getting his heart broken by a woman that he 756 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: either has and she dumbs some or he really wants 757 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: and he's chasing and she doesn't want him back. There's 758 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: this level of venom we're seeinging with Kanye right like 759 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: he's losing his mind when it comes to Kim. Chris 760 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 2: Humphries at one point just cap calling Kim a fraud. 761 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: Like when these when these men are angry at these 762 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: women who leave them, they have all this bottle of anger. 763 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: So the fact that you're now dating this woman's sister, 764 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: you're married to her, now she's pregnant with your baby, 765 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 2: you're pillow talking and you're feeding into that small little 766 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: monster that was already there because you know, Kim has 767 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 2: always been considered the prettiest sister. Now your husband is 768 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 2: low key solidifying your concern because Scott Disick was like, whatever, 769 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 2: she's gorgeous, she's a star. 770 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: She works hard, like who cares? Like, get over it? 771 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: And low key. 772 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: I like the fact that yeah, like Scott's like. Scott 773 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: was probably like who cares? 774 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: Like who cares? 775 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 2: She has her laying you have yours, like your sister 776 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: is pretty and she works hard. Who gives a fuck. 777 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: But now she has a husband who's like, yeah, I 778 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: agree with you, I agree with you. And now when 779 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: she said I would rather no, when she said I 780 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: am happy because Kim's are you happy? 781 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 1: She said, I am happy. 782 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 2: Actually, I'm happy that I get to go to Palm 783 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 2: Springs with my family. And it's like it's Travis isolating 784 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 2: Courtney from her family so that she can only rely 785 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 2: on him. But is because that's his revenge on Kim 786 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: not giving him the time of day. 787 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 3: I think it's both of the revenge. And this is 788 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 3: the thing that I haven't said anywhere else. I'm breaking 789 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 3: here with you first. This is one last theory that 790 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 3: I haven't told anybody not in the social media nowhere. 791 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: Imagine you saw somebody that you really liked, and you 792 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: recognized that you were not their type, and so even 793 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 3: though your feelings were hurt, you were like, not my type, 794 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 3: not my type, not my type. And then one day 795 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: they start dating someone who's just like you. I think 796 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 3: Pete Davidson is the gasoline for Travis. That was the 797 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 3: way girl, I was waiting to come here. 798 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 2: I don't have enough gas left in me. I need oxygen. Girl, 799 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 2: take my temperature. 800 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: I think Pete Davidson was the gas I think Travis 801 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 3: was the gasoline for Courtney, and Pete Davidson was the 802 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 3: gasoline for Travis. He was like you, clearly like black men, 803 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm never going to be a black man. I'm never 804 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 3: gonna be a rapper. Clearly I'm not your type. Where 805 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 3: different species got it. And then one day you and 806 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 3: Kanye break up and you bring up somebody who looks 807 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 3: like he's in my band? What you mean, hell half, 808 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: no fury, Like two haters scorned having a baby together, 809 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 3: and then they chose to get married in the same 810 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 3: place that Kim had gotten married. There's no other continents, 811 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 3: there's no other countries. France was booked. There's all these 812 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: little coincidences. So one Kim is like, wait a minute, you, 813 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 3: Chris are calling me a hater because allegedly I wasn't 814 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 3: happy at your wedding, but I was. But y'all got 815 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 3: married at the same place I got married with the 816 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: same performer forming that from my wedding at my friend's 817 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 3: house that I introduced you to who I'm doing. So 818 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: it's like they're literally doing like single white female in 819 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 3: our faces. They're hiding and playing sights. I think that 820 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 3: Pete Davidson things set Travis off, like, wait a minute, 821 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: this whole time I made peace with you, not wanting 822 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 3: because I wasn't your type. He looks like my cousin, 823 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 3: what are you doing? What happens to the whole black 824 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 3: man thing? Like, but that's how he appeased himself. 825 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: Drop the mic round of applause. 826 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Sis, you may have just unlocked the biggest 827 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: mystery since the Titanic. I mean, I am gagging because 828 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 2: the reason why I'm gagging is this. I am a man, 829 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: I am somebody and listen, I'll admit this, and I 830 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 2: think a lot of people admit this. You're you're onto 831 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: side thing, because not everybody who you're attracted to will 832 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 2: be attracted back to you. That's that's just the way 833 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: of life, unless you're Beyonce, like everybody wants you and 834 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 2: women do too. Okay, So I know what it feels 835 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 2: like to be rejected and being like, Okay, you're just 836 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 2: not my type. I'm sorry, I'm just not your type. 837 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 2: I'm not your type. You don't like all of this. 838 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 2: I can deal with that. I'm not everyone's tight. But 839 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 2: if I see you with a Carlos King Junior, I 840 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: am gonna be like, now, wait a minute, I have 841 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 842 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 3: His mind was probably like, hold up, he's not doing Yes, 843 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 3: he didn't take it to the fireworks, he didn't do 844 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 3: half the stuff that I did. He just kissed you 845 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: on SNL. That's all it took. 846 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: Girl. 847 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: Because I never I literally and I watched this show incessantly. 848 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 2: I have never once thought about the fact that Pete 849 00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 2: Davison and Travis Barker have the same style look skinny 850 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: white guy, skinny jeans, tatted out piercings. Both look like 851 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 2: they haven't bathed in two months. Both looked like they 852 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 2: survived off Corona with the lemon on the side and 853 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: just like you know that that dirty white boy look, 854 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 855 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: Like again like Tommy Lee, like just that that look. 856 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 2: And I never thought in a million years, based on 857 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 2: Kim's track record with boyfriends being black, I never thought 858 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 2: Pete Davison would be somebody she would day. I was 859 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: so confused by that whole relationship. But now that you 860 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: said that, I could see how that affected Travis. 861 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: But let me ask you. 862 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 2: This, because Kim also ain't no dummy. Was that a 863 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 2: fuck you that Kim did to Travis's quick Yeah? 864 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 3: So Carls what you're. 865 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: Saying, I'm a libra like Kim Kardashian. 866 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 3: My first keep telling me I need to write a 867 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 3: book just called Libra because i'vedated like seventeen of y'all. 868 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: Right, Oh, so what are you? 869 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: I'm an arias Turus cusp the Taurus and nurturing the 870 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 3: areas makes me fiery, right, and I have been with 871 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 3: an abnormal amount of libres. The one thing a liber 872 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 3: knows how to do is to get you where it hurts, 873 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 3: on the low low, when nobody's looking. You guys, do petty, passive, 874 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: petty like nobody's business, and Kim's like, oh, that's cute. 875 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 3: So you want to sleep with my leftovers, then I'll 876 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 3: look like a richer version of y'all Travis and Courtney 877 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 3: look like a broke band's version of Kim and the 878 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: other Man. The other Impete, Like, think about if you 879 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: have Kim and Pete and then you have the acme 880 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 3: version of them, Like, come on, I don't think this 881 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 3: is a coincidence. I think what's happening is Courtney is 882 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 3: out to get Kim, and Kim just has has less 883 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 3: more lose so she can, like once in a while, 884 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 3: be petty and then go back to being completely rich 885 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 3: and successful. Courtney's I'll hear hockeing brands that nobody wants, 886 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 3: so she has plenty of free time. So Kim has 887 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 3: been petty. In return, Kim clocks what's happening. Someone asked 888 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 3: him in a Q and A, Hey, Kim, did you 889 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 3: ever sleep with Travis. She's like, no, We've been friends 890 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 3: for years. He's friends with the family. Who time She 891 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 3: want to be keykeying to herself like yea, he wanted this. 892 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: Because she didn't have to answer that. 893 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 3: She didn't have to answer her her choosing. That's another thing. 894 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 3: Her choosing of the million questions to pull out the 895 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,959 Speaker 3: Travis question. That's some libra shit. 896 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: As a libra, that's I'm like, okay, bitch. 897 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 3: She's like, oh somebody else noticed he wanted me. Let 898 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 3: me just answer this real quick. A month of the 899 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 3: millions of other questions I could have asked, come on, man, 900 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: game recognized game. Mother has lived too long to fall 901 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 3: for these. And that's the thing. Now that the audience 902 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 3: has the key code, the show is very much more fun. 903 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 3: It's much more fun watching the show when you're clear 904 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 3: about what's happening. 905 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's it's beyond enjoyable. 906 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 2: It was so funny about all of this is I 907 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 2: think Courtney is an airy. 908 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 3: Yes and answer either love each other or want to 909 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 3: kill each other? 910 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: There, okay, because give me the tea on that. So 911 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 2: I'm a libra, you're an air. 912 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. 913 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: What's the t on aries and libra? 914 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 2: So that we can also have another way of defining 915 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 2: Kim Accortney's relationships. 916 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 3: So the way the zodiac works is it's a circle. 917 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 3: So we're all sitting across from somebody at a circular table. 918 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 3: Whoever is sitting directly across you can see you the clearest, 919 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: which means they can either love you the best or 920 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 3: hurt you the easiest. Because they have a clear shot, 921 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 3: they can take a clear shot. So whenever you have 922 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 3: a sign directly across from you, that's your sister sign, 923 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 3: which means you're either gonna best these or enemies. There's 924 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 3: no one between. For aris, it's libra, and so libras 925 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 3: and aries can either heal each other or harm each 926 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 3: other in a way that nobody else can. And so 927 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 3: it's just funny that they're diametrically a post sign and 928 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 3: they're having a battle of wills. Kim says, being that 929 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 3: girl comes naturally to me. You're literally eating my leftovers. 930 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: Whatever you say, Hell, are you okay? 931 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: You good? 932 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 3: Because I want to go back to winning. And Courtney's like, 933 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,959 Speaker 3: I'm gonna brurn it all down right. And the thing 934 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 3: is she recognizes that people with positions of power are 935 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 3: unsympathetic Carlos, neither one of us are sympathetic characters. We're 936 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 3: both successful in our own right, we're both articulate, we 937 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,399 Speaker 3: both know how to stay on our own if someone 938 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 3: wants to come over right now, and kick us in 939 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 3: the shin. If we yelled too loud, we would look 940 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 3: like the bad guys, even though we were attacked. And 941 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 3: Courtney knows that. That's why she's the manipulative victim. She 942 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 3: knows that because Kim is too powerful and too pretty 943 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 3: and too successful to like ever be sympathetic, all she 944 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 3: has to do is repeat what the blogs say, and 945 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 3: people are predisposed to side with her, whether she's making 946 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 3: sense or not. And she's weaponized, like weaponizing that against 947 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 3: the audience. The audience is getting gas lit. For those 948 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 3: of you who don't know how to use that word correctly, 949 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 3: this is what gaslighting actually looks like. It's brilliant. It's demious, 950 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 3: but it's brilliant. 951 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 2: Which is why do you remember the episode where this 952 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 2: is like Keeping up the Kardashian where Kim had her 953 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 2: video game and she had like the the manufacturer create 954 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 2: images of like her family the avatars. Yeah, the avatars, right, 955 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 2: and so Courtney was a part of the game and 956 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 2: Courtney again at this time, I was like, I'm confused. 957 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: Courtney was so mad because she said, Kim, you did 958 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: not ask my permission. She said, look, I told you 959 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 2: guys about it. I didn't know how to send you 960 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: a letter saying I'm using your image and likeness but whatever. 961 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: And I remember Scott saying, oh my god, just buy 962 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: her a pair of shoes, and Kim said, not quote 963 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 2: buy her a pair of shoes. 964 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: I bought her a fucking career. 965 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 3: Ding ding ding ding ding, Libra tapping in from he 966 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 3: tapped into work that day, ding ding ding. That is 967 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 3: that was the most liberate thing Kim Kardashian has ever 968 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,959 Speaker 3: slipped up on set on camera. I was like, ooh, child, 969 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 3: here's you go. Her whole charge just popped up. Shout 970 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 3: out to the libras. Y'all know how y'all are. I 971 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 3: love y'all apparently, but y'all know how y'all are. You 972 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 3: know what's so wild to me? Is this a term 973 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 3: that I want to teach this audience, because I do 974 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 3: always do these shows because I want to educate what 975 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 3: we're entertaining. It's a term called weaponized incompetence. When you 976 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 3: are in a relationship and you ask your husband can 977 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 3: you wash the dishes, and he always makes sure that 978 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 3: they're slightly dirty, and so you have to do it instead. 979 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 3: Courtney has been weaponizing and competence in this entire time. 980 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: She's always dragging her feet so that you will leave, 981 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 3: so that she won't be asked to do anything, but 982 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 3: still be able to cash those checks. She makes everything 983 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 3: slightly uncomfortable so that you just let her have her 984 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: way so that you can not have a headache. She's 985 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 3: been doing this the entire time, and so the family 986 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 3: is like, you're the only one who doesn't want to 987 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 3: come to work but still wants to get paid. 988 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: You're literally whish to me. 989 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 3: Whis to me. 990 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,760 Speaker 1: It's narcissistic. 991 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 3: They're both larcissistic, only one of the the other one 992 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 3: isn't one thing about Kim. 993 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 2: Listen, you can say what you want about Kim. The 994 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 2: reason why I will always rip at Kim, and I'm 995 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 2: just being honest, is because she owns the fact that 996 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: I always wanted to be famous and I would do 997 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 2: anything to be famous. Ye all of these other girls 998 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: love to say, like, you know, it's not about the money. 999 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 2: Kim is money hungry and she's fame hungry, and it's 1000 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 2: okay to own it. 1001 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: The fact that this is season. 1002 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 2: Four of the Hulu show and the Kardashians has been 1003 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: around since two thousand and seven the fact that on 1004 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 2: the season four premiere they added a clip of Kim saying, 1005 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be famous, and now I'm the 1006 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: most famous person in the world, and then goes to 1007 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: camera saying like she she's and on the joke, she's like, 1008 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 2: I am living my best life and Courtney is listen. 1009 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: Do I think Courtney's happy? 1010 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 2: I think Courtney has created her own universe and she's 1011 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,959 Speaker 2: trying to be happy within that universe. But my question 1012 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: for you, probab to let you go. Where do Kim 1013 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 2: and Courtney go from here? 1014 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 3: That's a great question for Chris Jender. 1015 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: I go to the stores, the work. 1016 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 3: Sorry, I will say this avoidance is not healing. And 1017 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 3: just because courteneys avoiding her family doesn't mean she's healing 1018 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 3: from the pain that she's in because the key of 1019 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 3: it all is all the stems from pain, right, no 1020 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 3: one who, which is why she's always trying to like 1021 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 3: psychoanalyze Kim. I'm like, oh, look at you, Hector projector 1022 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 3: you're projecting all the things that she says that Kim, 1023 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,280 Speaker 3: you need to heal, Kim. You make it all about 1024 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 3: you victims. If you are a victim, the whole world 1025 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 3: is out to get you. What's more conceited than that. 1026 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 3: Being a full time victim is the most conceded thing 1027 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 3: you can do as a human being. It's the most 1028 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 3: narcissistic place that you could live from. And so Corter 1029 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 3: lives in this world where the whole family's out to 1030 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 3: get her. So she's such a victim. She's miserable. She's 1031 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 3: avoiding them by being with Travis and them, but like 1032 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 3: she's not healing. And so I think what's gonna happen 1033 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 3: is as long as it brings in ratings, We're gonna 1034 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 3: watch her try to set fires all over the house. 1035 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 3: I think that's what's to come next. We're just gonna 1036 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 3: watch her smearing pool on the walls and trying to 1037 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 3: put everything on fire. And Kim's gonna be, like, I'm 1038 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 3: still the most popular person in the world. Whatever. Just 1039 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 3: last last weekend, they said Kim was off somewhere in Europe, 1040 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 3: and everybody and their mother show up to dinner with her, 1041 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 3: Like they said, like twenty celebrities show up to have 1042 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 3: dinner with Kim Kardashian over the weekend. She's still that girl, 1043 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 3: And so I don't think that's gonna change, right. I 1044 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 3: do think Court is gonna come undone blue. 1045 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian helped announce that Usher was playing in the 1046 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl Marshall. 1047 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: Usher did not announce his own announcement. 1048 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 3: She reached with to Kim about his own Siper Bowl performance? 1049 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: Did you know this? Did you also know that? For 1050 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,720 Speaker 1: other people did what Kim did, but they only used Kim. 1051 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 3: That doesn't surprise me. 1052 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: Deon Sanders did it, Odell Beckham, Junr did it? Oh, 1053 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 2: I did not know that they only used Kim. No, 1054 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 2: Kim is always waiting. And let me tell you something. 1055 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 2: I have never watched America Horror Story in my life. 1056 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,919 Speaker 1: She can ever, she. 1057 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 3: Can well, she's acting like Chris in the American Horse Story. 1058 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 3: They cask Kim to play Chris, so it's a little 1059 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 3: bit typecast thing, but she's doing an excellent job. And 1060 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 3: I think, honestly, I think watching him being a baby lawyer, 1061 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 3: being an actress, all these other things. I'm gonna tell 1062 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 3: you this about libs. Y'all can be manipulated sometimes when 1063 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 3: you're low vibrational. But I think God knew that because 1064 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 3: you're so infuriating, he made you charming infuriating liver on 1065 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 3: the planet is ridiculously charming. Nick Cannon usher Will Smith. 1066 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 3: Will Smith smacked the man. I'm still on his side. Okay, 1067 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 3: so she's right, You're all witches. All libs are witches. 1068 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 3: Courtney wasn't wrong about that. 1069 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 1: She wasn't wrong. Can I gag you real quick? Today's 1070 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: my birthday. 1071 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 3: That that was your birthday? 1072 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: Tell let me tell you something. 1073 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 2: For a Libra to work on their birthday goes to 1074 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 2: show you that at the end of the day we 1075 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 2: are about work. Because I was like, I have an 1076 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 2: episode that dropped, so by the time you guys hear this, 1077 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 2: it'll be October third. So my birthday's October second. And 1078 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 2: I could not have asked for a better birthday present. 1079 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 2: And I mean that I blue let me tell you 1080 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 2: something and rain drops listen up, cause I'm gonna say 1081 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 2: on the record, honey, you are officially a friend to 1082 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 2: this podcast, which means you have to come back. 1083 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I love this. 1084 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: I love you have to come back. And I feel 1085 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: like we just got started. 1086 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 3: Oh we just got started. And Carls, you're an educated 1087 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 3: pop culture critic and those are my favorite type of 1088 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 3: humans to have These conversations with. 1089 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 1: Honey. 1090 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 2: I want my entire rain Drop family to follow you, 1091 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 2: so please, my sister tell them where they can find you, 1092 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 2: follow you social media and support you and everything you 1093 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 2: have going on, because Sis, you are coming back to 1094 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 2: this podcast to break down more about this saga and 1095 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 2: more and other stuff too. 1096 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: But I'm into a girl, all right, so. 1097 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 3: Let me see you. Guys can find me on Instagram 1098 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 3: at at Blue Centric and that's b l u e 1099 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 3: C E N t r i C Blue Centric. If 1100 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 3: you see at Blue to Lusima, that's my backup page. 1101 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 3: That's that's fine to following me there too. That's just 1102 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 3: for you know, the government and stuff. On TikTok where 1103 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 3: the video went super viral, they're like two million views 1104 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 3: and like a day. I'm at at Blue Talusma as well. 1105 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 3: I think Instagram and Twitter also at Blue Centric and 1106 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 3: also too, I'll be back with Carlos because we have 1107 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 3: more keykeys that can feel it. And I also just 1108 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 3: want to say, guys, the reason why these conversations are 1109 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 3: important is because when you're watching reality starts, when you're 1110 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 3: watching human nature, it's giving you a mirror to real life. 1111 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 3: There's somebody who's going to watch this. Actually a lot 1112 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 3: of somebodys who are going to watch the show and 1113 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 3: recognize the Courteneys in their lives who have been playing 1114 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 3: victim and gaslighting them. And there's value in that. When 1115 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 3: people said, Blue, you worked in the news, you were 1116 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 3: at CNN, Why are you talking about pop culture and 1117 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 3: reality stars? Because studying human nature serves us all. We 1118 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 3: can all learn something from this. But besides the kekey 1119 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,919 Speaker 3: of it all, So thank you for having this really 1120 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 3: intelligent conversation with me. Those are my favorite kinds. 1121 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. 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