WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Packing It In 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:06.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:09.640 Cowboys. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:16.680 This is mick Shots, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:21.000 and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:32.239 Savannah Humoller, Effson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.760 And here it is. It's a Thursday edition of mix 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.959 Shots inside the s WBC podcast studio. But this is 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:46.680 not like previous episodes of mix Shots because our shining 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.800 star is not here today is not It needs to 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.040 be Savannah shots. Savannah. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:53.640 I like that. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.520 I like that it rolls off the better than Yeah, 0:00:58.560 --> 0:00:59.760 there's a literation there. 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.040 She actually she's got a more important job. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.479 You know what's going on? And wait, what what are 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:08.600 you wearing green? 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:09.039 For? 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.480 What's going on here? You realize who the opponent is 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:13.080 this week. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.120 Mickey didn't go into any of my thoughts. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.000 Clearly it did not. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.000 And this is mix Shots. That's another reason we shame 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:20.920 he's got. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.360 A Wisconsin's Wisconsin green flames. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.640 He is so unaware and with a T shirt. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.479 Underneath it, so he's supposed to have a white out 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:34.440 or what y got a white shirt? I'm just going 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.800 to show you how much green stands out in white. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.720 It does you never wear green, and then the week 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.919 of the packers gave you put on green war. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.800 This last week. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:49.920 Okay, all right, here we are. It's time to get 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.160 ready for these packers. And as we go along here. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.200 He misses a day and comes back poking the bear, 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:01.240 you knows, speaking of the Yeah, no, go. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:05.840 Ahead, Well it's Thursday. It's time to get serious about 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.919 these packers. And I started getting serious about him last night. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:11.800 And I've got some cause for concern. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.880 We were serious about him yesterday. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:22.480 Yeah, we were right for those that were here. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.360 So, Micky, what can you tell us? I saw a 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.240 couple of football players not in football gear on a 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.480 football field when I walked in. Those were the veterans. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.560 We've we've been over that yesterday, that we got secrets. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:42.560 Now it's playoff time. Okay, so that's why they're indoors. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.920 You see football players. 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.760 Right, Oh yeah, but but I did see a. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.960 Couple now, Oh that weren't. You're saying weren't practicing. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.920 Yeah, maybe they weren't. Maybe they are more rest yeah. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:59.880 Yeah, Well, it sounded as if that Tyler Smith would 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:05.560 continue to be limited Stefan Gilmour probably not doing anything 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:11.400 till Saturday, but he's very optimistic that he's playing. In 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.880 matter of fact, he insisted on it yesterday with a 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:16.520 harness on. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.480 By the way, in regards to Tyler Smith, you know 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.280 how challenging it is to ask the head coach on 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.640 his Coaches show that airs the night before the game 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:25.560 with the Packers in. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.720 Town, what if he's playing? 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.400 What do you think about Tyler Smith? 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.480 He knows other people are watching the interview were I 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:36.880 was the interviewer. 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:42.160 We had an extra fifteen to twenty seconds, so I said, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.560 I'll just go ahead and throw out something on Tyler Smith. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:46.560 You got nothing. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:54.280 I expected nothing, and it was like, so what does 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.480 he What will he need to accomplish this week in 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.520 order to be able to play it? So you didn't 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:00.880 get an ant, not really. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.360 He said he would do He was limited yesterday and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.440 he said he would do a little bit more today. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.840 So I guess that's encouraging. Zach Martin should be good 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.320 to go talk to him yesterday and. 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.000 The good news is he's he's and he feels better. Yeah, 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.360 he's walking around and he's around other people. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.720 And like one hundred percent better because he said, you 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:28.480 can't believe how bad it was on Sunday. So that's encouraging. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.520 Trying to think anybody else of significance that might have 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:36.440 missed practice. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.800 But the Gilmour we talked about this the other day. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.200 I thank Everson wearing a harness for a cornerback. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:44.040 Now. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.600 It's a little different now, probably than back in your day. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.640 Medical technology has probably improved a little bit. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:50.040 Hopeful. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.560 They probably didn't have hardness back. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.680 I wasn't testing it back then. 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:56.440 Yeah. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.280 I never went into the trainer's room only too get 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.200 my bunions shaved. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.880 That's the only reason they ever touched me. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.920 If his shoulder went out, they probably used tape. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.919 Yeah, yeah, they probably would. But mine never went out. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.640 I mean it didn't even if it went out, I 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.480 didn't tell anybody. I never let anyone know I was hurt, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:19.400 never let know I was injured. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:25.440 We want to talk about the elephant in the room, Belichick, Yep, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.240 you just noticed that up there. No, I mean Everson 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.640 played for him. I know so well. I played for 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:37.159 two saving also, so they get two elephants and we 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.680 had three elephants in the last twenty four hours. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:40.200 That's right. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.480 Pete Pete Carroll and then and then. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:50.480 He was yeah, yeah, they got rid of me the 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:55.159 year before they had the big year in ninety four. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.400 That's when they came to Dallas and they beat us 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.760 and go on the goal line. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.760 That was That's when I was like, man, these. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.160 Guys two inches, they're better than when I was there 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.800 last year. Terry Taylor was the cornerback that they replaced 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:11.039 me with. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.840 He had a heck of a season. There was no 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:15.120 you to admit that. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.920 Oh no, they were, they were. I was thirty three 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.840 years old getting my butther out of there. Bro you know, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.480 I mean I still could have possibly played with him, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.200 but no, I didn't want to be one of those 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:29.279 guys just hanging around, you know, just because you knew somebody. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.719 And that's why I went there to Cleveland because I 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.040 knew you know. That was the only moment that I 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.680 actually went to a place where coach kind of you know, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:38.520 vouched for me. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:40.520 So I was there for a couple of years, those 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:41.160 two good years. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:42.120 Okay, so that was. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.880 Ninety two. They brought me in half season. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:53.280 So playing for Belichick and say, thirty one years ago, 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.839 did you ever cross your mind that thirty years from now, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.960 these two would be regarded as the greatest of all 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.240 time pro football in college for you never think that, 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.120 and this is you had played for one of the 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.680 greatest of all time and Tom Landry prior to that, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.280 and then Bill Purcells also And. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.320 Yeah, so I was used to good coaches, but they 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.880 were already legends when I was there. Eddie was already 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.480 a legend. Tom was already a legend. You know, pars 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.240 Els was on his way. But then he comes Belichick 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.400 as a defensive coordinator with the Giants. Never thought that 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.960 he would be a head coach, and then when he 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.840 became a head coach. No, I was not thinking he's 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.800 going to be one of the greatest. I was just thinking, 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:37.720 you know, he's going to be a good coach because 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.200 his approach was professional and the way he treated his 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.560 other coaches and the way the way they uh responded 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.400 to his demands. They were all in Ron Springs came 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.600 down there once just to have a good time because 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.960 they they wanted him to teach them how to run 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.880 a screen pass. And if you call Tom Landry had 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.520 the best screen passes going in the league at the time. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:05.520 Tom Springs door set Preston Pearson. They all knew how 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.400 to do it. So Ron was going to teach the 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.720 guys in Cleveland how to do it. Well, you know, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.080 after that done all day, he's ready to go out 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.600 and hang out and party a little bit, right his 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.200 training camp. Yeah, we want to go out and hang 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.800 out to have a good time. No one would leave 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.480 the room until Belichick left the room. No one would 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.000 leave the office until Belichick left the office. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.720 And so Ron is like, hey, man, let's go. They're like, no, man, 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.400 coach is still in there. He go. People on Belichick. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:38.080 He's on the treadmill watching film, So it's gonna be 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.320 a while. So Ron would always hang out and party 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.280 with us. He couldn't hang out and party with the 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.920 other coaches because they were on it. And this is 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.160 training camp. They were on it because Belichick was back. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.040 Then, if you're on the treadmill watching film, it's not 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.200 like you have an iPhone or you're watching it on 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:56.559 the iPad or something. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.440 No, he's got it on the big screen in his hand, 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:01.120 in his. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:02.920 Hand, and he's not walking. He's Johnny. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.400 You know what that reminds me of. Jason Garrett told 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.280 the story when he was Saban's assistant in Miami. He 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:18.000 was the quarterback coach, and it was the year Troy 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.400 Aikman was going in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.440 and this is the fear he put in his assistant coaches. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:24.720 Right. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:31.440 So Garrett was like, well, it was training camp and 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.280 it wasn't a preseason game, but they had practice on 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.840 the Saturday, and he wanted to go to Troy's induction, right, 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.400 So he said he finally worked up the nerve to 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:48.160 ask Saban if he could maybe just kind of and 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.680 he was like, one practice right the way he said it, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.680 And Saban looked at him and said it said, do 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.360 you think you're so important that if you missed a 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.400 practice screw things up? 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:16.480 We were there with with Nick. Nick was all in 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.760 with Belichick, I guess because he was a d C. Belichick, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.040 you know, kind of related to him more. And I 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:28.480 just remember Nick being extremely intense. You know, he would 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.720 stand up at the at the the chalkboard and well 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.280 the whiteboard, and he would just rock back and forth 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.200 as he looked at you intensely. It just he just 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.320 rocked back and forth. His mind was already you know 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.800 three or four you know, lessons ahead but we're talking 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.920 about this right now, and he wants you to go, Okay, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:48.640 get it out, get it. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.240 Out, get out, let's go, let's go. We got things 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:51.080 to do, and. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.360 We would just move on from from defense to defense 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.560 or subject to subject. So he was he was more 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.000 intense than Belichick. I thought the man was going to 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.720 have health problems way before he left Cleveland because he. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.720 Was extremely tight and intense. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.560 You never saw him relax. And then when they cut me, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.400 I was, you know, kind of upset about it. And 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.000 I was flying home at one point. I think I 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.400 came to visit some people up there, and I was 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.040 flying home one around Christmas and here's Nick Saban on 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.360 the on the plane and he comes up to me. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:29.080 His face looks totally different. It's bright, it's happy. You know, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.760 he's got his family with him. He introduced me to 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.600 his family. And I'm trying to be mad at him, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.920 right he would not allow me to be mad at him. 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.400 I went up and met the wife and the kids, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.080 and you know, and he was just so happy. So 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.400 in the off season, at that moment when he took 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.760 that vacation, he let all of that go. But when 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.160 you come back to the facility. He's that mister intensity. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.520 So are you surprised each of them just decided this 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:56.120 was enough? 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:58.000 I am. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.199 I'm surprised you guys like that was You know, they're 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.319 like Eddie Robinson And. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.040 For both of them, they are sons of coaches. In fact, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.560 Nick coached under Belichick's dad. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.160 At Navy, Yeah two? And was he at the West Point? 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:17.920 Is that the Navy Naval. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:25.079 So you you mentioned Bear Bryant, I coach I coached. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.080 I covered his final game. It was at the Liberty 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:34.560 Bowl in nineteen eighty one. And as matter of fact, 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.040 I got a little certificate that I was at his 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.559 last game. They gave it to all the writers, right, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:45.200 And I remember after the game they beat I want 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.959 to say, Illinois in the Liberty Bowl, which was played 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.959 mid December, not on New Year's Day or anything like that. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.120 And it was cold, and I remember they didn't have 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.959 a room for him to do his postgame press comm 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.800 difference in so they have him standing on like a 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.560 milk carton crate or whatever. H And I'm looking at 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:11.199 him and it's freezing outside, and he just looked so ashy, right, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.280 and he had already announced his retirement that that was 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.000 going to be his last game. So it was mid 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.880 December by January twenty six, and this is when I 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.880 was working in Jackson, Mississippi. I was going to Tuscaloosa 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.760 for his funeral, and it's like he wasn't going anymore. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.240 Died a monthly, ediebb the same way, Eddue Robbins in 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:34.719 the same way. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.760 It didn't take long at all, natural his deathbed. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.040 Yeah, patnal too. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:45.840 Right, Saban, sounds like he's done. I mean he's retired. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.079 It doesn't sound like Belichick is retired. Sounds like Belichick 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:49.760 is in the mix. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.840 What did he say? Did he sound like that? Is 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:53.720 that just your belief? 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:54.360 Did hey? 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.800 Because I just believe that he's not done. I don't 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:57.360 know if he's going. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.120 And I did look to the press conference and I 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.960 went into it with that mindset he's going to keep coaching. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.640 I mean, just the wording of it was, we've decided 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.040 to part ways, and UH like it. You know, it's 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.120 a patriot's decision. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.200 I just so he probably was. He will not be 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.160 back as a head coach, that's the word. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.680 When they move him into the front office like Carroll, 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.440 And I don't know, and I'm not convinced Carol is 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:25.200 going to do that either. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.760 I mean, and you listen to Pete Carroll and he's 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:32.680 ready to go. In fact, if I'm the Chargers, I am, well, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.920 either one of those guys, but Pete Carroll and Los 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:41.120 Angeles with the Chargers, that's exactly what they need, you know, 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:46.640 as far as a pr standpoint familiar and a defensive coach, 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.920 and they need to do something with their defense. And 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.120 he's working with a quarterback. But he's got potential. Yeah, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.640 he's got immediate cred with the populace in LA, you know, 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.360 with sc and you know he said, seem he's a 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.760 southern calip seems like a southern California. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.560 You know, if you were I can't see BELI said 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:07.160 going west. 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:08.480 I'm the same way. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:12.000 Yeah, he's never been west of the Mississippi and all 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.360 his coaching has been over on this side. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.040 If you were Washington, would you hire Saban. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:26.840 After I mean, after their experience with Spurrier? Saban has 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.040 NFL coaching experience, though, I mean. 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.960 Would he I mean, there's so many open jobs now 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.200 in the NFL. I mean, I know he's said what 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.720 is he said, what about Belichiw? 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:40.720 Yeah, in Washington. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.840 But I just thought Saban, you know, just backing out 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.120 like that, and just I mean the day before he 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.840 was interviewing coaches for his assistant jobs. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.680 Right, I don't know, he seemed like he still has 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.280 the energy for it. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:02.120 The difference with Saban is the change in college football now. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:03.840 I mean, that's what I was going to bring up 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.520 for him to be able to continue to prolong it. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.480 I mean, I think there was a comment from him 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.360 that these quoters saying, well, what if we go waiting 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:12.040 for somem here. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:17.200 I mean it's like, well, they've already they've already you 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.640 could easily go eighting for one year. He's already had 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.680 like a dozen or two players going into the portal 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:25.359 they want to transfer. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:26.880 To me, it's like being in the pros anyway. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.680 So yeah, the way to the NFL. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.600 He won't have as many first round draft picks on 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:33.000 his rush. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.360 But you don't have to recruit eighteen year old kids, right, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.280 you don't have to deal with nils, you don't have 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.320 to deal with the transfer portal, and. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.760 You've got gown man. They pretty much to understand where 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.040 you're coming from right right away. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.080 But you are destined to go eight and nine and okay, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.760 well maybe he wasn't as great a coach as we 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:53.320 thought he was. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.560 And do you have time for someone seventy plus years old? Yeah, yeah, 0:16:58.800 --> 0:16:59.600 for a number of years. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.359 But in the NFL, let's face it. I mean, it's 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.240 the head coaching jobs in the NFL last from about 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.120 six months to three years and you're out. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.119 I just think it'd be less headaches to be in 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.200 the NFL. Although you can't you can't recruit a quarterback. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:20.720 You got to find one, right, You. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.880 Don't have to repeat yourself so much in the pros. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.680 Yeah, you know, for both for Saban and Belichick, it's 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.800 got to be with ownership that allows them to do 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.400 their thing, you know, and they'd have to have a 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.680 quote unquote GM alongside them. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.760 That if they have any you know, does Nick have 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.080 any contexts in Washington or. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.600 I just throw out Washington and you know it's a 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:49.960 kind of high profile owner. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:51.040 Yeah. 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.480 So I don't see him go into like Carolina or 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.679 something like that, although he'd be a god there in 0:17:58.720 --> 0:17:59.200 the South. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:09.000 The last coach lasted three months. 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