Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
Speaker 2: you and Senator there are going to be many people
Speaker 2: that are going to listen to the show and they're
Speaker 2: going to be enraged that they haven't already seen the
Speaker 2: news that the mastermind behind nine to eleven is going
Speaker 2: to have his life spared in a deal that he
Speaker 2: made with the United States government.
Speaker 3: Well, this week has been a very very good week.
Speaker 4: If you happen to be a terrorist, if you happen
Speaker 4: to be someone who wants to murder Americans, this has
Speaker 4: been a phenomenal week because Joe Biden Kamala Harris just
Speaker 4: gave a gift to coleead Sheaik Muhammad. They agreed to
Speaker 4: take the death penalty off the table and spare his life.
Speaker 3: It's an absolute outrage.
Speaker 4: It's an insult to the families of all of those
Speaker 4: who were murdered on nine to eleven, And it sadly
Speaker 4: is something we predicted a year ago that this is
Speaker 4: what Biden and Harris were going to do. They did
Speaker 4: exactly that. Also this very same week, two illegal aliens
Speaker 4: from Jordan who tried to breach the Quantico base were
Speaker 4: allowed to walk free. They were allowed to post bail
Speaker 4: and they just walked free.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: A very good week if you happen to be a terrorist.
Speaker 4: Not a good week if you want to keep American safe.
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot, it's an important episode. I also
Speaker 2: want to just say thank you to so many listeners.
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Speaker 2: a year ago, almost to the day you and I
Speaker 2: did this show warning after letters went to family members
Speaker 2: of the victims of nine to eleven that there was
Speaker 2: a possibility of a plea deal with lead Chack Muhammad,
Speaker 2: the mastermind of nine to eleven, that his life would
Speaker 2: be spared if he just said, Okay, fine, I'll plead
Speaker 2: guilty the charges. Now, to be clear about who Khalid
Speaker 2: shake Muhammad is. He's not just the mastermind of nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. This is a guy that has confessed to
Speaker 2: at least thirty one horrific and barbaric attacks, including the
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three bombing of the World Trade Center. On
Speaker 2: top of that, he was the guy that was there
Speaker 2: for with the beheading of the Wall Street Journal reporter
Speaker 2: General Pearl. He was the mastermind behind the two thousand
Speaker 2: and two Bali bombings, and he was a man that
Speaker 2: was in charge with a plan to blow up the
Speaker 2: Panama Canal, he had active plans to assassinate Jimmy Carter,
Speaker 2: and a plot to blow up suspension bridges in New
Speaker 2: York City. Now, these are just some of the things
Speaker 2: that he was working on. Knew how to kill people.
Speaker 2: He killed women, children, he killed police officers, firemen, first responders,
Speaker 2: and he was also accountable for killing American troops overseas
Speaker 2: after nine to eleven. And this administration just spared his life.
Speaker 2: Why would they make this deal except for the fact
Speaker 2: they say we just want to close down gem.
Speaker 4: Well sadly, that's exactly it. It's all politics, all the time.
Speaker 4: And a year ago, last August, we devoted an entire
Speaker 4: podcast to focusing on the very real risk that this
Speaker 4: was going to happen, that the Biden Harris White House,
Speaker 4: this is what they wanted to have happened. And they
Speaker 4: announced just this week that khleege shak Muhammad they've they've
Speaker 4: cut a plea deal with him and two other co conspirators,
Speaker 4: Walid Mohammad Sali Mubarik bin atash Boy that's a mouthful,
Speaker 4: and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al hau Sui, both of whom
Speaker 4: along with with Kleege Shake Muhammad have been in Guantanamo
Speaker 4: Bay since two thousand and three, and understand Joe Biden
Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris, and by that I mean really the
Speaker 4: left wing radicals that surrounds them, because I don't know
Speaker 4: that Joe Biden wants anything other than just to have
Speaker 4: his Jello at four pm. But the radicals that run
Speaker 4: this White House and that are now trying to have
Speaker 4: a coronation for Kamala Harris, they came in with the objective.
Speaker 4: They hate GITMO, they want to shut it down, they
Speaker 4: hate that it exists, and in order to shut it down,
Speaker 4: this was the deal they wanted to cut. And understand,
Speaker 4: look nine to eleven, a lot of our listeners are
Speaker 4: young enough that you weren't alive on September eleventh. What
Speaker 4: happened on September eleventh, two thousand and one, two nine
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy six people were murdered. It remains the
Speaker 4: most horrific terrorist attack in the history of our country.
Speaker 4: And colleague Shake Muhammad planned it and directed those executing it.
Speaker 4: And for this administration to say the death penalty is
Speaker 4: no longer a possibility, We're going to agree that you
Speaker 4: can go. You can leave Gitmo, you can go to
Speaker 4: an American prison, and you will not face capital punishment. Well,
Speaker 4: let me quote retired police officer Jim Smith. He is
Speaker 4: the husband of Moira Smith, who was the only female
Speaker 4: NYPD officer who died in September eleventh. He said, when
Speaker 4: he heard this news, he felt like he'd been kicked
Speaker 4: in the balls. And here's his quote. The prosecution and
Speaker 4: families have waited twenty three years to have our day
Speaker 4: in court to put on the record what these animals
Speaker 4: did to our loved ones. They took that opportunity away
Speaker 4: from us. They committed the worst crime in the history
Speaker 4: of our country. They should receive the high penalty. Or
Speaker 4: here's another quote. This is from retired cup Kathy Vigiana,
Speaker 4: who's the wife of NYPD detective Joseph Vigiana, who was
Speaker 4: also killed on September eleventh. Here's what she said quote,
Speaker 4: I'm angry and disappointed that enemy combatants who killed thousands
Speaker 4: of Americans in our homeland are now able to exploit
Speaker 4: the US judicial system to their benefit, receiving support from
Speaker 4: American taxpayers for shelter, food, and healthcare for the rest
Speaker 4: of their lives.
Speaker 2: You know, you get your head around this, and it's
Speaker 2: all about a feather in the cap, and that's how
Speaker 2: they look at at the White House. They were obsessed
Speaker 2: with getting us out of Afghanistan on the anniversary of
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. It cost Americans lives at the airport
Speaker 2: and countless people operators that risk their lives to save
Speaker 2: American lives, translators and others who were beheaded and tortured
Speaker 2: and killed after we left so abruptly, and they were
Speaker 2: kill lists that were clearly put.
Speaker 1: Out for them.
Speaker 2: They wanted to close quickly, not because it was the
Speaker 2: safest way to do it, to draw down in Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: but because it was a political moment that they wanted
Speaker 2: to say on the anniversary of nine to eleven, I
Speaker 2: ended America's longest war. That was the goal for Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: That's what he did. And they've been obsessed with closing
Speaker 2: Guantanamo Bay. And phase one of getting this deal done
Speaker 2: was the obsession with the left that, oh, we waterboarded
Speaker 2: Khalide Sheik Muhammad. Yeah, the guy knew about a lot
Speaker 2: of plans and a lot of terrorist attacks, and he
Speaker 2: knew where we assumed asam Bin Lad and other terrorists were,
Speaker 2: and they said, oh, you should feel sorry for him.
Speaker 2: That should have never happened. He should get a plea deal.
Speaker 2: And then they just said, we're just going to run
Speaker 2: out the clock here. And then we gave him lawyers,
Speaker 2: and we paid incredible amounts of money for his legal
Speaker 2: defense team with our tax dollars, and then we gave
Speaker 2: him incredible medical care and all sorts of other benefits.
Speaker 2: And now we're going to, as you mentioned, keep it
Speaker 2: live for us his life. But I go back to
Speaker 2: the victims here, and this is what pisces me off.
Speaker 2: There are tens of thousands of family members that get
Speaker 2: a damn letter in the mail, YEP form letter, a
Speaker 2: form letter that just says, hey, the guy that killed
Speaker 2: your family, I'm sorry your dad or your mom or
Speaker 2: your grandmother had or your son or your daughter had
Speaker 2: to choose between burning to death and the twins towers
Speaker 2: or jumping out the window. The guy who planned that
Speaker 2: is going to live now because we want to just
Speaker 2: move this off the books and we want to close
Speaker 2: down Gitmo for another moment like we had in Afghanistan
Speaker 2: that by the way, turn out to be a disaster.
Speaker 1: And they get a damn form letter.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, you're right that this White House, Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris, what characterizes every decision they make is they
Speaker 4: put politics first. They put their radical partisan agenda above
Speaker 4: the interest of Americans. Why do we have open borders.
Speaker 4: We have open borders because they want to stay in power,
Speaker 4: because they wanted to let eleven and a half million
Speaker 4: e Gal aliens in because they think they'll vote for
Speaker 4: Democrats either now, some illegally now and the others in
Speaker 4: the future when they greet the manesty and give them
Speaker 4: voting rights. So if in the meantime people have to die,
Speaker 4: that's a perfectly acceptable risk from their perspective. Why did
Speaker 4: we pull out of Afghanistan so incompetently in a way
Speaker 4: that resulted in thirteen servicemen and women being murdered, Because,
Speaker 4: as you just said, they wanted to announce we were
Speaker 4: out of Afghanistan on the anniversary of nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: It's all about the political announcement, And here this was
Speaker 4: about appeasing the leftists who hate the fact that Guantanamo
Speaker 4: exists at all.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 4: The Police Benevolent Association president Patrick Hendry says he was
Speaker 4: inundated with calls from officers families after he learned of
Speaker 4: the plea deal, and he said it was quote heartbreaking
Speaker 4: and infuriating.
Speaker 3: And here's what he.
Speaker 4: Said, quote their loved one sacrifice is being disrespected and
Speaker 4: they are being victimized all over again. In these individuals
Speaker 4: masterminded an attack on our nation that not only claimed
Speaker 4: two nine hundred and seventy seven lives that day, but
Speaker 4: thousands more in the years since. Their crime merits the
Speaker 4: ultimate punishment. There should be no plea and absolutely no leniency.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what the firefighters feel the same way.
Speaker 4: The Uniform Firefighters Association President Andrew Ansbrot said that FDNIS
Speaker 4: thousands of firefighters feel quote betrayed and disgusted.
Speaker 3: And here's what he said.
Speaker 4: Quote three hundred and forty three New York City firefighters
Speaker 4: died on that day, and hundreds have died since then.
Speaker 4: We're still losing three firefighters a month to the effects
Speaker 4: of nine to eleven Ground Zero. We feel betrayed and
Speaker 4: disgusted that they will not face the ultimate justice of
Speaker 4: the death penalty. That these terrorists were offered a plea
Speaker 4: deal which will allow them to live under old age
Speaker 4: with contact with their families.
Speaker 1: I pause because I'm angry.
Speaker 2: And if you know anybody that's lost a loved one,
Speaker 2: whether it's on nine to eleven, and you and I
Speaker 2: have friends that lost loved ones on nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: but we also.
Speaker 4: Well, and Heidi and I lost to very good friends.
Speaker 4: We were very good friends with Barbara Olson. She was
Speaker 4: married to Ted Olson, who was the Solicitor General of
Speaker 4: the United States under George W.
Speaker 3: Bush.
Speaker 4: We had been with Barbara not many weeks before nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, and she was on the plane that crashed
Speaker 4: into the Pentagon. She lost her life on that day.
Speaker 2: I had dinner tonight with I mean, as you know,
Speaker 2: I'm in Pinehurst, which is right next to Fort Bragger
Speaker 2: they renamed it being PC Fort Freedom or whatever they
Speaker 2: call it now, with a couple of different guys that
Speaker 2: signed up after nine to eleven. They're still in and
Speaker 2: we were having dinner and this subject came up, and
Speaker 2: it was sad to see their demeanor change because they
Speaker 2: are enraged because their friends died. They lost their friends
Speaker 2: fighting these terrorists. Their friends were killed by people that
Speaker 2: were being trained and recruited by Khalichik Muhammad. One of
Speaker 2: the things that was brought up tonight at dinner. That
Speaker 2: made them so mad was they said. What people forget
Speaker 2: is Kalechik Muhammad was not just the master nine eleven.
Speaker 2: He was the master of the propaganda to recruit radicals
Speaker 2: into al Qaeda, and those radicals were the ones on
Speaker 2: the battlefield that were killing American soldiers. So it's not
Speaker 2: just the people that died on nine to eleven. There
Speaker 2: were countless others that signed up to fight the tares
Speaker 2: after nine to eleven that were fighting against people that
Speaker 2: had been recruited through propaganda and training by Khalichaik Muhammad,
Speaker 2: who were then killed. By the way, he was never
Speaker 2: charged directly for their murders, right, And he said, so
Speaker 2: to be clear, now, you sent men and women in uniform,
Speaker 2: American men and women uniform to go kill these people.
Speaker 1: You die.
Speaker 2: And the guy who mastermind the whole damn thing that
Speaker 2: started at all is now going to live the rest
Speaker 2: of his life until he naturally expires. And you think
Speaker 2: Americans are going to want to sign up to fight
Speaker 2: for America, this is what they know happens after the
Speaker 2: worst tears attack on American soil in American history.
Speaker 4: Well, and listen the media wants America to forget about
Speaker 4: nine to eleven, forget about the crazed theocratic lunatics who
Speaker 4: sought to murder us, who want to destroy us. And
Speaker 4: I will say, for those of us who are old
Speaker 4: enough to have been alive, every one of us remembers
Speaker 4: exactly where you were that morning. Where were you in
Speaker 4: the morning of nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: I was in my college dorm room at Ole miss
Speaker 2: and my phone, my cell phone rang and it was
Speaker 2: a producer at Fox News because I was doing TV then,
Speaker 2: and he just said, turn on your TV and hung up.
Speaker 4: It was the horror all across this country. Everyone life
Speaker 4: just stopped for me. I was in DC. It was
Speaker 4: the beginning of the Bush administration. I was working in
Speaker 4: the Bush administration. I was the head of policy at
Speaker 4: the Federal Trade Commission at the time. And that morning
Speaker 4: I was walking out of our apartment, literally at the
Speaker 4: front door, and my phone rang and it was Heidie
Speaker 4: and she had left earlier that morning. Heidi was working
Speaker 4: at the White House. And Heidi called me and said,
Speaker 4: turn on the television right now. So I stopped. I
Speaker 4: went back to my apartment, turned it on and watched
Speaker 4: and we saw the twin towers the World Trade Centers,
Speaker 4: and we saw smoke coming out of the top of
Speaker 4: one of the two towers.
Speaker 3: And early on.
Speaker 4: We didn't know what it was. We didn't know if
Speaker 4: it was initially just that the early speculation was it
Speaker 4: was some horrible accident. Some pilot of a small plane
Speaker 4: had screwed up and crashed into a building. It was
Speaker 4: not immediately apparent what had happened. And as everyone's watching
Speaker 4: one of the towers with smoke coming out of it,
Speaker 4: the whole world watched in horror as we saw a
Speaker 4: commercial jet, a second commercial jet steer around and crash
Speaker 4: into the second tower, and the instant that happened, everyone
Speaker 4: knew exactly what this was. This was not a tragic accident.
Speaker 4: This was a deliberate act of murder, a horrible act
Speaker 4: of terrorism. And there was a level of confusion, There
Speaker 4: was a level of just horror and disbelief. So Heidi
Speaker 4: at the time, as I said, was working at the
Speaker 4: White House. Initially, when the first plane hit, the Secret
Speaker 4: Service told the folks at the White House just stay
Speaker 4: where you are, keep working, and everyone's watching it. But
Speaker 4: everyone's staying there. When the second plane hit, they ran
Speaker 4: through the hallways and they literally told people get out now, run,
Speaker 4: do not walk. Run, and so Heidie sprinted out. Her
Speaker 4: car was parked in an underground parking garage, so she
Speaker 4: couldn't get her car. They wouldn't let her get her car,
Speaker 4: and so Heidi proceeded to take off her high heels
Speaker 4: and walk home barefoot. We had an apartment in Arlington, Virginia,
Speaker 4: actually just south of the Pentagon and shortly thereafter, so
Speaker 4: there was a lot of confusion about what was happening.
Speaker 3: I'm watching TV.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get in touch with Heidi, but cell
Speaker 4: phones were not working very well. There was a period
Speaker 4: where it was being reported, I think on ABC that
Speaker 4: a plane had hit the White House, which obviously I'm
Speaker 4: having trouble getting Heidi, and so I'm very freaked out
Speaker 4: that she's in harm's way. She ended up walking across
Speaker 4: Memorial Bridge and walking home to our apartment, just just
Speaker 4: carrying her high heels. And the plane that had been
Speaker 4: reported that had hit the White House is actually the
Speaker 4: one that struck the Pentagon, and as I mentioned, Barbara Olson,
Speaker 4: our friend, was on it, and Barbara actually picked up
Speaker 4: her cell phone on the plane and was able to
Speaker 4: contact her husband, Ted. She got Ted on the phone,
Speaker 4: and Ted was at the time, he was the number
Speaker 4: three official at the Bush Department of Justice, and he
Speaker 4: knew exactly what was happening. He knew his wife was
Speaker 4: on that phone. And Barbara was a firebrand, was she
Speaker 4: was passionate, she was a fighter, she was conservative, she
Speaker 4: was awesome. And Barbara said said to Ted, what do
Speaker 4: I do? How do we stop them? And that was
Speaker 4: the last conversation they had because moments later the plane
Speaker 4: crashed in the Pentagon.
Speaker 2: You think about that, and then you think about the
Speaker 2: cover up of this decision, and I think we should
Speaker 2: talk about that because it's important. Yes, the White House
Speaker 2: is acting now like they had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 2: White House Press secretary today Jean Pierre was asked about
Speaker 2: this moment, and I want you to hear just how
Speaker 2: they're playing this again politics. It's a lie, and I
Speaker 2: want us to explain that lie. But first here is
Speaker 2: what she said when she was asked about it.
Speaker 5: Katchack, thank you, Krein. I'm just hoping for a response
Speaker 5: to the nine to eleven plea deal that's spared the
Speaker 5: architects of death penalty.
Speaker 1: The new York City Firefighters Union put out a statement.
Speaker 5: It said, we are disgusted and disappointed that these three
Speaker 5: terrorists were given a plea deal and allowed to escape
Speaker 5: the ultimate justice, while each month three more heroes when
Speaker 5: the fdn.
Speaker 3: WY are dying from World Trade Center illnesses.
Speaker 5: Does the administration have a message.
Speaker 3: For look, our hearts go out.
Speaker 5: I mean, not much more than I can add to
Speaker 5: what you heard from the National Security Advisor and how
Speaker 5: I just answered the question to one of your colleagues,
Speaker 5: and I'll just reiterate, obviously, our hearts go out to
Speaker 5: the families loved who lost a loved one. We didn't
Speaker 5: have a role in this. This was not something that
Speaker 5: we were involved in, and so we are determined to
Speaker 5: make sure that they get justice. These families get justice.
Speaker 5: I just don't have anything else to add to what
Speaker 5: the National Security Advisor just just dated from.
Speaker 2: Here moments ago, Senator, I mean need I think you
Speaker 2: need to explain how big of a lie this is.
Speaker 4: But actually actually play play the next clip, which which
Speaker 4: is the National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, so she's referencing
Speaker 4: what he said.
Speaker 3: Play that as well, switching gears for a moment.
Speaker 6: I want to ask you about a key deal that
Speaker 6: we reached nine to eleven suspects by military the military
Speaker 6: boards down one rote. Republicans are condemning this as showing
Speaker 6: weakness and calling it a sweetheart deal because it avoids
Speaker 6: trial of the debt penalty.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if the administration.
Speaker 7: Has a response to that. As we said last night,
Speaker 7: the White House received word that the convening Authority had
Speaker 7: entered these pre trial agreements that had been negotiated by
Speaker 7: military prosecutors with KSM and some of the other nine
Speaker 7: to eleven defendants, and we had no role in that process.
Speaker 7: The President had no role, the Vice President had no role,
Speaker 7: I had no role, The White House had no role.
Speaker 7: And we were informed yesterday, the same day that they
Speaker 7: went out publicly that this pre trial agreement had been
Speaker 7: accepted by the convening authority. What the President did upon
Speaker 7: learning of that was direct his team to consult as
Speaker 7: appropriate with officials and lawyers at the Department of Defense
Speaker 7: on this matter. Those consultations are ongoing, and I have
Speaker 7: nothing more to add at this time.
Speaker 4: And well, of course he has nothing more to add. Yeah,
Speaker 4: of course he has nothing more to add. And by
Speaker 4: the way, Crane Jean Pierre, Our hearts go out to them.
Speaker 4: No they don't. You didn't give a damn because what
Speaker 4: Jake Sullivan doesn't admit there is why this Pleague deal
Speaker 4: was reached, and it was reached because Joe Biden and
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris insisted on closing Guantanamo Bay. Play what Crane
Speaker 4: John Pierre says where she acknowledges that and a follow
Speaker 4: up on the nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: P media of Naus, the president still planned to close
Speaker 5: Guantango Bay Prison before you leave office?
Speaker 3: And is there a realistic copway.
Speaker 4: Because you got him the next six months.
Speaker 5: That's still something that the president wants to do and
Speaker 5: get done. As far as a timeline, don't have anything
Speaker 5: for you here, but obviously this is something that he
Speaker 5: wanted to be done under his administration. Just don't have
Speaker 5: anything else to read out or preview at this time,
Speaker 5: but it is something that he's determined to get done.
Speaker 1: Well, there it is centator. They're just admitted it. Yes,
Speaker 1: we had to get this done.
Speaker 4: Now, we had nothing to do with it other than
Speaker 4: we said we're closing the prison he's in, so you
Speaker 4: got to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Anne has plans to do it by January
Speaker 2: the twentieth, Right, So we're on a time frame here.
Speaker 4: We got to get that there's a political priority here.
Speaker 4: And so you know when she said, oh, well you
Speaker 4: know our hearts go out to the victims' families, Well,
Speaker 4: no they don't. He's determined to get this done because
Speaker 4: this is a political priority, and and the people who
Speaker 4: who are at risk apparently that they're they're not the priority.
Speaker 2: I got to ask you a legal question because there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are going to ask this
Speaker 2: in their heads, and I'm going to ask you. Donald
Speaker 2: Trump wins reelection, hypothetically he comes in, could he stop
Speaker 2: the closing of Gontanomo Bay Number one?
Speaker 1: But before you even answer.
Speaker 2: That, the second question is is it possible at his
Speaker 2: direction and his administration's direction to undo this plea deal
Speaker 2: with Khalid Shaik Muhammad? Or once it's done, is this
Speaker 2: done and it can not be undone?
Speaker 4: So the two questions on the first one, if Guantanamo
Speaker 4: was not yet closed, yes, it would be possible to
Speaker 4: stop the closing of Guantana. And understand, we have a
Speaker 4: military base there that's not closing. But but at Guantanamo
Speaker 4: we have have built detention facilities where we have held
Speaker 4: UH terrorists from nine to eleven, and and and we
Speaker 4: held them there in in part because although it's under
Speaker 4: control of the US government, it's not in US territory
Speaker 4: in the mainland, and that was part of the reason
Speaker 4: they were held there. If the Guantanamo detention facility had
Speaker 4: not already been closed, then yes, Trump could reverse that.
Speaker 4: But your second question, the answer, unfortunately is no. If
Speaker 4: the plea deal is entered into UH and it's it's
Speaker 4: agreed to, and and and and a court they plead guilty,
Speaker 4: and a court takes that that guilty plea, the fact
Speaker 4: that a new president comes in and and and changes
Speaker 4: his mind, absent extraordinary circumstances, there's no way to undo that.
Speaker 2: Would there be a possibility of charging him with new
Speaker 2: or different crimes he maybe hasn't been charged within the past,
Speaker 2: or would those statute limitations be gone because there's gonna
Speaker 2: be people They're gonna say, we want there to be justice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it would depend.
Speaker 4: It depends on what is what's covered in this plea
Speaker 4: deal and what crimes he's pleading too. So if you
Speaker 4: had totally brand new crimes that are not covered in
Speaker 4: the plea deal that you could potentially charge him for that,
Speaker 4: but that would take the evidence to convict him of
Speaker 4: those brand new crimes, and I don't know if we
Speaker 4: have that evidence or not.
Speaker 2: If you think that Joe Biden cared about the victims
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, I think we've answered that question.
Speaker 1: The answer is obviously no.
Speaker 2: But does he care about your safety in your security
Speaker 2: from other potential terrorist attacks? Well, with the southern border
Speaker 2: wide open, I think we can answer that question pretty easily.
Speaker 2: But then we get this new shocking report that the
Speaker 2: illegal Jordanian migrants who tried to breach Quantico base were
Speaker 2: allowed to walk free after posting bail. This is a
Speaker 2: national security risk at a high level. And they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're an illegal, Oh you came in, Oh you're from
Speaker 2: a part of the world where there's a lot of terraces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna let you walk free. How the hell
Speaker 1: does this happen?
Speaker 4: Well, and this is something we covered on on the
Speaker 4: podcast when it happened that that two Jordanian illegal immigrants
Speaker 4: we were arrested on May third for trespassing onto the
Speaker 4: military installation, onto the Quantico Marine Corps base and they
Speaker 4: were handed over to ICE officers because they were illegal aliens.
Speaker 4: One of them was Hassan Yusuf Hamdan who's thirty two,
Speaker 4: and the other was Mohammed Kair Dabus, who's twenty eight,
Speaker 4: and they were just released on bail. Hamdan's bail was
Speaker 4: set at fifteen thousand dollars, Dabus's bail was set at
Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars. And they were released and let go,
Speaker 4: and we'll see if we ever see them again. But
Speaker 4: understand Quantico, so it's home to the FBI Academy, it's
Speaker 4: home to the FBI Laboratory, it's home to a Defense
Speaker 4: Intelligence Agency facility, and it's home to several Marine Corps commands,
Speaker 4: including the unit that flies the Marine one presidential helicopter.
Speaker 3: So we don't know.
Speaker 4: Why they were trying to get onto the Quantico base,
Speaker 4: but there are a lot of things there that are
Speaker 4: serious national security priorities or law enforcement priorities. And to
Speaker 4: have illegal immigrants from the Middle East trying to get
Speaker 4: on there, as one federal law enforcement source told The
Speaker 4: New York Post, quote time intel failure, security failure. If
Speaker 4: it wasn't an act of terrorism, why aren't the government
Speaker 4: officials releasing the details of this what was the intent?
Speaker 4: And of course Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not
Speaker 4: answering that question that they don't believe apparently that they
Speaker 4: owe the American people an answer to that question.
Speaker 2: And let's remind the American people of something we played here.
Speaker 2: These types of breaches are happening on a shocking regular basis.
Speaker 2: And this was the warning that happened on Fox News
Speaker 2: from a man wearing a uniform saying back in May, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is happening a lot more than anyone realizes.
Speaker 8: Miluntary base is getting penetrated by foreign nationals, is happening
Speaker 8: more and more. This is something we see probably two
Speaker 8: or three times a week where we're stopping these folks
Speaker 8: at the gate a week a week at least, and
Speaker 8: this is just Navy alone. We're seeing folks try to
Speaker 8: come in and usually the cover story is and I'm
Speaker 8: a student, you know, I'm here, I'm an enthusiast, I
Speaker 8: want to see the ships. That type of thing. We
Speaker 8: have to turn them around and typically we get NCIS
Speaker 8: involved with those, and we get biometrics when possible. But yes,
Speaker 8: there's been an up.
Speaker 3: Taken that did they have passports.
Speaker 8: They have a lot of times they have passports, they
Speaker 8: have papers, yes, but they're in no way, shape or
Speaker 8: form authorized to be on our base. And it's really
Speaker 8: hard for us to tell the underlying motive for these
Speaker 8: type of cases.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's stunning.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 3: It's got to be a concern.
Speaker 8: This is Russian, Chinese, it comes from all all these
Speaker 8: different nations. We're seeing an uptick in it.
Speaker 9: In addition to that, there's been some reporting on this.
Speaker 9: Over the last six months. You're getting two or three
Speaker 9: drones flying over military bases in America per week.
Speaker 1: That is no question happened.
Speaker 3: How do you overcome that? Well, you know, we.
Speaker 8: Are improving our capabilities to detect that, to defend against that,
Speaker 8: to make sure that our folks are trained to actually
Speaker 8: counter that. I do this under my authorities from a
Speaker 8: US and Northern Command as the component commander for that,
Speaker 8: and so I have great reporting on it, and generally,
Speaker 8: in general, we believe it's mostly just folks with drones
Speaker 8: that are the buying commercially, you know, from Amazon or
Speaker 8: whatever the case may be. But it's hard to differentiate
Speaker 8: between that and a nation state trying to shore spnom.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're acting like this is just normal in
Speaker 2: the United States of America now, like, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 2: got people coming into bases. We got these terrorists coming
Speaker 2: across the southern border on a regular basis on the
Speaker 2: Terrists watch list.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and media, he said, he says, many of these
Speaker 4: are Chinese and Russians. Look, these are organized incursions, organized
Speaker 4: incursions targeting our military basis. And in the case of
Speaker 4: these two Jordanians, what happened. So they lied to the
Speaker 4: guards at Quantico. They claim that they worked for an
Speaker 4: Amazon subcent contractor and they were there to make a delivery.
Speaker 4: And the officers determined that they were full of crap,
Speaker 4: that that was not true. And the men who were
Speaker 4: in a box truck ignored the instruction of the guards
Speaker 4: and tried to drive directly onto the base before they
Speaker 4: were stopped by anti vehicle barriers.
Speaker 3: And so, look, this is.
Speaker 4: Deeply concerning behavior and the fact that and both of
Speaker 4: them were here illegally. Hamdan entered the US illegally at
Speaker 4: San Diego. He came across the southern border in April.
Speaker 3: But you know what happened. They released him.
Speaker 4: Quote due to lack of detention space DUBUS was also
Speaker 4: in the US illegally because he overstated his student visa,
Speaker 4: and so both of them, for whatever reason, for whatever motive,
Speaker 4: they decided they were going to try to breach Quantico.
Speaker 4: That they were issued citations for trespassing and told to
Speaker 4: appear in federal court in Alexandria, and a magistrate judge
Speaker 4: signed off on their release on the condition that they
Speaker 4: continue to appear at future court dates and they must
Speaker 4: also refrain from trespassing on any government property, including the
Speaker 4: Quantico facility. Like this is truly absurd, And as I
Speaker 4: said at the outset, this week is a very good
Speaker 4: week if you're a terrorist. This week is a very
Speaker 4: good week. If you want to threaten the national security
Speaker 4: of this country. It's a terrible week if you actually
Speaker 4: care about keeping American safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why this upcoming election is going to
Speaker 2: be so important in this country.
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