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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with

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Speaker 2: you and Senator there are going to be many people

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Speaker 2: that are going to listen to the show and they're

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Speaker 2: going to be enraged that they haven't already seen the

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Speaker 2: news that the mastermind behind nine to eleven is going

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Speaker 2: to have his life spared in a deal that he

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Speaker 3: Well, this week has been a very very good week.

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Speaker 4: If you happen to be a terrorist, if you happen

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Speaker 4: to be someone who wants to murder Americans, this has

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Speaker 4: been a phenomenal week because Joe Biden Kamala Harris just

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Speaker 4: gave a gift to coleead Sheaik Muhammad. They agreed to

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Speaker 3: It's an absolute outrage.

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Speaker 4: It's an insult to the families of all of those

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Speaker 4: who were murdered on nine to eleven, And it sadly

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Speaker 4: is something we predicted a year ago that this is

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Speaker 4: what Biden and Harris were going to do. They did

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Speaker 4: exactly that. Also this very same week, two illegal aliens

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Speaker 4: from Jordan who tried to breach the Quantico base were

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: A very good week if you happen to be a terrorist.

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Speaker 4: Not a good week if you want to keep American safe.

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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot, it's an important episode. I also

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Speaker 2: want to just say thank you to so many listeners.

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Speaker 2: You guys have rallied for the people in Israel, and

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Speaker 2: just a couple of nights ago, I was having dinner

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Speaker 2: with the incredible team from IFCJ. Now, if you don't

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Speaker 2: know the work that they're doing, the International Fellowship of

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Speaker 2: a moment and to see what they're doing and get involved.

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Speaker 2: Since the war has broken out and the constant attacks

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Speaker 2: When I sat down with several of the people that

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Speaker 2: that there are listeners out there like you, guys that

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Speaker 1: So thank you.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you've not gotten involved with IFCJ, here's your

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Speaker 2: involved support IFCJ dot org. Senator, let's just talk about

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Speaker 2: a year ago, almost to the day you and I

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Speaker 2: guilty the charges. Now, to be clear about who Khalid

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Speaker 2: after nine to eleven. And this administration just spared his life.

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Speaker 2: Why would they make this deal except for the fact

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Speaker 4: Well sadly, that's exactly it. It's all politics, all the time.

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Speaker 4: And a year ago, last August, we devoted an entire

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Speaker 4: They hate GITMO, they want to shut it down, they

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Speaker 4: this was the deal they wanted to cut. And understand,

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Speaker 4: look nine to eleven, a lot of our listeners are

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Speaker 4: young enough that you weren't alive on September eleventh. What

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Speaker 4: And colleague Shake Muhammad planned it and directed those executing it.

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Speaker 4: And for this administration to say the death penalty is

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Speaker 2: You know, you get your head around this, and it's

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Speaker 1: Out for them.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to close quickly, not because it was the

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Speaker 2: That's what he did. And they've been obsessed with closing

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Speaker 2: And now we're going to, as you mentioned, keep it

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Speaker 1: And they get a damn form letter.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, you're right that this White House, Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris, what characterizes every decision they make is they

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Speaker 4: We have open borders because they want to stay in power,

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Speaker 4: that's a perfectly acceptable risk from their perspective. Why did

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Speaker 4: It's all about the political announcement, And here this was

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 4: The Police Benevolent Association president Patrick Hendry says he was

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Speaker 3: And here's what he.

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Speaker 4: Said, quote their loved one sacrifice is being disrespected and

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Speaker 4: they are being victimized all over again. In these individuals

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Speaker 4: masterminded an attack on our nation that not only claimed

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Speaker 4: ultimate punishment. There should be no plea and absolutely no leniency.

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Speaker 4: The Uniform Firefighters Association President Andrew Ansbrot said that FDNIS

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Speaker 4: Well, and Heidi and I lost to very good friends.

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Speaker 4: Well, and listen the media wants America to forget about

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Speaker 2: You think about that, and then you think about the

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Speaker 5: Katchack, thank you, Krein. I'm just hoping for a response

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Speaker 5: It said, we are disgusted and disappointed that these three

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Speaker 5: Does the administration have a message.

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Speaker 3: For look, our hearts go out.

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Speaker 5: I mean, not much more than I can add to

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Speaker 2: Here moments ago, Senator, I mean need I think you

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Speaker 4: And well, of course he has nothing more to add. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: No they don't. You didn't give a damn because what

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Speaker 5: P media of Naus, the president still planned to close

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Speaker 3: And is there a realistic copway.

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Speaker 4: Because you got him the next six months.

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Speaker 5: That's still something that the president wants to do and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Anne has plans to do it by January

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Speaker 4: We got to get that there's a political priority here.

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Speaker 4: no they don't. He's determined to get this done because

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Speaker 2: Trump wins reelection, hypothetically he comes in, could he stop

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Speaker 2: the closing of Gontanomo Bay Number one?

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Speaker 1: But before you even answer.

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Speaker 2: That, the second question is is it possible at his

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Speaker 2: direction and his administration's direction to undo this plea deal

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Speaker 2: with Khalid Shaik Muhammad? Or once it's done, is this

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Speaker 2: done and it can not be undone?

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Speaker 4: So the two questions on the first one, if Guantanamo

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Speaker 4: was not yet closed, yes, it would be possible to

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Speaker 4: stop the closing of Guantana. And understand, we have a

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Speaker 4: military base there that's not closing. But but at Guantanamo

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Speaker 4: we have have built detention facilities where we have held

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Speaker 4: UH terrorists from nine to eleven, and and and we

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Speaker 4: held them there in in part because although it's under

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Speaker 4: control of the US government, it's not in US territory

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Speaker 4: in the mainland, and that was part of the reason

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Speaker 4: they were held there. If the Guantanamo detention facility had

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Speaker 4: not already been closed, then yes, Trump could reverse that.

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Speaker 4: But your second question, the answer, unfortunately is no. If

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Speaker 4: the plea deal is entered into UH and it's it's

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Speaker 4: agreed to, and and and and a court they plead guilty,

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Speaker 4: and a court takes that that guilty plea, the fact

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Speaker 4: that a new president comes in and and and changes

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Speaker 4: his mind, absent extraordinary circumstances, there's no way to undo that.

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Speaker 2: Would there be a possibility of charging him with new

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Speaker 2: or different crimes he maybe hasn't been charged within the past,

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Speaker 2: or would those statute limitations be gone because there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be people They're gonna say, we want there to be justice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it would depend.

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Speaker 4: It depends on what is what's covered in this plea

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Speaker 4: deal and what crimes he's pleading too. So if you

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Speaker 4: had totally brand new crimes that are not covered in

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Speaker 4: the plea deal that you could potentially charge him for that,

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Speaker 4: but that would take the evidence to convict him of

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Speaker 4: those brand new crimes, and I don't know if we

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Speaker 4: have that evidence or not.

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Speaker 2: If you think that Joe Biden cared about the victims

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Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, I think we've answered that question.

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Speaker 1: The answer is obviously no.

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Speaker 2: But does he care about your safety in your security

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Speaker 2: from other potential terrorist attacks? Well, with the southern border

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Speaker 2: wide open, I think we can answer that question pretty easily.

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Speaker 2: But then we get this new shocking report that the

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Speaker 2: illegal Jordanian migrants who tried to breach Quantico base were

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Speaker 2: allowed to walk free after posting bail. This is a

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Speaker 2: national security risk at a high level. And they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're an illegal, Oh you came in, Oh you're from

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Speaker 2: a part of the world where there's a lot of terraces.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna let you walk free. How the hell

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Speaker 1: does this happen?

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Speaker 4: Well, and this is something we covered on on the

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Speaker 4: podcast when it happened that that two Jordanian illegal immigrants

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Speaker 4: we were arrested on May third for trespassing onto the

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Speaker 4: military installation, onto the Quantico Marine Corps base and they

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Speaker 4: were handed over to ICE officers because they were illegal aliens.

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Speaker 4: One of them was Hassan Yusuf Hamdan who's thirty two,

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Speaker 4: and the other was Mohammed Kair Dabus, who's twenty eight,

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Speaker 4: and they were just released on bail. Hamdan's bail was

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Speaker 4: set at fifteen thousand dollars, Dabus's bail was set at

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Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars. And they were released and let go,

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Speaker 4: and we'll see if we ever see them again. But

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Speaker 4: understand Quantico, so it's home to the FBI Academy, it's

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Speaker 4: home to the FBI Laboratory, it's home to a Defense

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Speaker 4: Intelligence Agency facility, and it's home to several Marine Corps commands,

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Speaker 4: including the unit that flies the Marine one presidential helicopter.

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Speaker 3: So we don't know.

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Speaker 4: Why they were trying to get onto the Quantico base,

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Speaker 4: but there are a lot of things there that are

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Speaker 4: serious national security priorities or law enforcement priorities. And to

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Speaker 4: have illegal immigrants from the Middle East trying to get

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Speaker 4: on there, as one federal law enforcement source told The

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Speaker 4: New York Post, quote time intel failure, security failure. If

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Speaker 4: it wasn't an act of terrorism, why aren't the government

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Speaker 4: officials releasing the details of this what was the intent?

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Speaker 4: And of course Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not

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Speaker 4: answering that question that they don't believe apparently that they

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Speaker 4: owe the American people an answer to that question.

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Speaker 2: And let's remind the American people of something we played here.

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Speaker 2: These types of breaches are happening on a shocking regular basis.

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Speaker 2: And this was the warning that happened on Fox News

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Speaker 2: from a man wearing a uniform saying back in May, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is happening a lot more than anyone realizes.

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Speaker 8: Miluntary base is getting penetrated by foreign nationals, is happening

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Speaker 8: more and more. This is something we see probably two

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Speaker 8: or three times a week where we're stopping these folks

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Speaker 8: at the gate a week a week at least, and

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Speaker 8: this is just Navy alone. We're seeing folks try to

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Speaker 8: come in and usually the cover story is and I'm

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Speaker 8: a student, you know, I'm here, I'm an enthusiast, I

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Speaker 8: want to see the ships. That type of thing. We

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Speaker 8: have to turn them around and typically we get NCIS

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Speaker 8: involved with those, and we get biometrics when possible. But yes,

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Speaker 8: there's been an up.

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Speaker 3: Taken that did they have passports.

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Speaker 8: They have a lot of times they have passports, they

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Speaker 8: have papers, yes, but they're in no way, shape or

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Speaker 8: form authorized to be on our base. And it's really

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Speaker 8: hard for us to tell the underlying motive for these

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Speaker 8: type of cases.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's stunning.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be a concern.

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Speaker 8: This is Russian, Chinese, it comes from all all these

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Speaker 8: different nations. We're seeing an uptick in it.

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Speaker 9: In addition to that, there's been some reporting on this.

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Speaker 9: Over the last six months. You're getting two or three

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Speaker 9: drones flying over military bases in America per week.

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Speaker 1: That is no question happened.

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Speaker 3: How do you overcome that? Well, you know, we.

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Speaker 8: Are improving our capabilities to detect that, to defend against that,

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Speaker 8: to make sure that our folks are trained to actually

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Speaker 8: counter that. I do this under my authorities from a

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Speaker 8: US and Northern Command as the component commander for that,

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Speaker 8: and so I have great reporting on it, and generally,

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Speaker 8: in general, we believe it's mostly just folks with drones

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Speaker 8: that are the buying commercially, you know, from Amazon or

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Speaker 8: whatever the case may be. But it's hard to differentiate

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Speaker 8: between that and a nation state trying to shore spnom.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're acting like this is just normal in

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Speaker 2: the United States of America now, like, oh, yeah, we

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Speaker 2: got people coming into bases. We got these terrorists coming

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Speaker 2: across the southern border on a regular basis on the

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Speaker 2: Terrists watch list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and media, he said, he says, many of these

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Speaker 4: are Chinese and Russians. Look, these are organized incursions, organized

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Speaker 4: incursions targeting our military basis. And in the case of

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Speaker 4: these two Jordanians, what happened. So they lied to the

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Speaker 4: guards at Quantico. They claim that they worked for an

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Speaker 4: Amazon subcent contractor and they were there to make a delivery.

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Speaker 4: And the officers determined that they were full of crap,

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Speaker 4: that that was not true. And the men who were

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Speaker 4: in a box truck ignored the instruction of the guards

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Speaker 4: and tried to drive directly onto the base before they

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Speaker 4: were stopped by anti vehicle barriers.

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Speaker 3: And so, look, this is.

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Speaker 4: Deeply concerning behavior and the fact that and both of

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Speaker 4: them were here illegally. Hamdan entered the US illegally at

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Speaker 4: San Diego. He came across the southern border in April.

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Speaker 3: But you know what happened. They released him.

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Speaker 4: Quote due to lack of detention space DUBUS was also

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Speaker 4: in the US illegally because he overstated his student visa,

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Speaker 4: and so both of them, for whatever reason, for whatever motive,

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Speaker 4: they decided they were going to try to breach Quantico.

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Speaker 4: That they were issued citations for trespassing and told to

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Speaker 4: appear in federal court in Alexandria, and a magistrate judge

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Speaker 4: signed off on their release on the condition that they

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Speaker 4: continue to appear at future court dates and they must

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Speaker 4: also refrain from trespassing on any government property, including the

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Speaker 4: Quantico facility. Like this is truly absurd, And as I

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Speaker 4: said at the outset, this week is a very good

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Speaker 4: week if you're a terrorist. This week is a very

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Speaker 4: good week. If you want to threaten the national security

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Speaker 4: of this country. It's a terrible week if you actually

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Speaker 4: care about keeping American safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why this upcoming election is going to

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Speaker 2: be so important in this country.

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Speaker 2: the beginning, this is why we do the show. We

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