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Speaker 1: we come. Welcome back to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. This

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Speaker 1: is my man. He's on the call today, Robert Foster.

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Speaker 1: He's the father of three daughters and a basketball enthusiast.

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Speaker 1: Growing up, he witnessed many black men around him start

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Speaker 1: successful businesses. That's called mentors. People who you see. It's

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Speaker 1: important because I'm gonna share story about growing up who

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Speaker 1: I saw and how they impacted infected me, affected me,

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Speaker 1: and I wasn't even tied to trying to be anything

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Speaker 1: but just a growing up black kid. But who you

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Speaker 1: see can't impact what you can be. You know, he

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Speaker 1: learned that you can achieve your goals through patients and

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Speaker 1: steady work. He would he went to He also struggled

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Speaker 1: with depression in high school and dealt with rebellious personality

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Speaker 1: that he had, So we're gonna talk about that now.

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Speaker 1: He's self imployed a business owners two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: he created the Shopmakers Leads. We all know March madness

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Speaker 1: out there, So if you're gonna launch something, this is

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Speaker 1: the time of the year to launcher a virtual basketball

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Speaker 1: video competition platform. They offer a fun and skill based

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Speaker 1: experience for players, fans and brands to create, participate in

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Speaker 1: host competition. Please walk with the Moneymaker Conversations Masterclass. Our father,

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and basketball enthusiasts, Robert Foster. How are you doing, Robert?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man, Thanks for having me and Robert.

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Speaker 1: You know, I tell everybody I can play. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like a fish story. It's like a fish story, Robert.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know I could have fish. It was

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Speaker 1: the foot law, but it was three feet by the

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Speaker 1: time I got home. You know what I'm saying. You know,

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Speaker 1: he was battling with me. He battling. He took the

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Speaker 1: pole down. I brought it up he took the pole

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Speaker 1: down out of reaching the wall and pull him up. Now,

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Speaker 1: I say all this because you know you went from

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Speaker 1: being a street baller to a tech baller. All right,

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Speaker 1: and so now were you what were you on the court? Now? Well,

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Speaker 1: well did you have skills there? Rob? Yeah? I think

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Speaker 1: I did. You said, I think you see right there? Right?

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Speaker 1: So this is this this, this is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Right Like, I played with some with some pretty high

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Speaker 1: level guys. High level. See what you can't do it

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Speaker 1: like that? Rob? See, we don't know you, you know,

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Speaker 1: he said. You know, Michael Jordan would never say I

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Speaker 1: say I think I can play basketball. Now you know? So,

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Speaker 1: so I hold on, I got to come back. That

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Speaker 1: was as a man, as a man, as a man,

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Speaker 1: think of as a man, think of right, huh? As

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Speaker 1: a man, think of so should he be? And like

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Speaker 1: I said, I think I could play basketball pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a braggadocious type of person. Like

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Speaker 1: it's some people out there that can vouch that can

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Speaker 1: vouch for me, But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say him be like I was the greatest, but I

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Speaker 1: would say you this. When I played ball, you know,

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Speaker 1: in my era, things were very different, and I used

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Speaker 1: a couple of cats. Man. We was doing that in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: I play. So now we're getting the simple Robert, you

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm older than you. And in college,

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Speaker 1: a value in the virtual world? Well, so this is

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Speaker 1: what happened, Uh in twenty nineteen, you know what, I guess, well,

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Speaker 1: It was incredible documentary. If you have not document any one,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm hitting you low. You stay straight up.

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Speaker 1: pretty good, Robert, You're pretty good. Now. You're pretty good now? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to do it with a shooting competition. I

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Speaker 1: I looked up Derek you know, his primary page. You know,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, man, he like probably for about I say,

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Speaker 1: about two months and even to this day, like I

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Speaker 1: So he gonna so the feedback he's gonna give you,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be crucial. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be something that you can actually taken and grow from.

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Speaker 1: It's not He's not a yes, yes man type of person.

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Speaker 1: CO called him. He gave me, gave me some good

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Speaker 1: gave me some good stuff. That basketball community all brought

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Speaker 1: together on this one idea shot Yea. So right now,

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Speaker 1: if you go to shotmakers League dot com, you can

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Speaker 1: fill out a profile. We'll be launching we're gonna launch

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Speaker 1: during March. March maddens, We're gonna start doing our first competitions.

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Speaker 1: The platform has grown so before we used to control

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Speaker 1: all the competitions, but now, uh, you yourself can create

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Speaker 1: your own competition. You can create a challenge just for

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Speaker 1: can post it for the community for somebody else to

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Speaker 1: take your challenge, and so um. In a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: we're like a lot like a roadblox, you know how

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Speaker 1: the kids they get on there to create these different

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Speaker 1: games for each other to play and engage with and

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Speaker 1: build community. We're doing the same thing, but within the

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Speaker 1: basketball game. I ask you this, let me this is interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now you know that's any one to interested ear. But

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Speaker 1: now your money making master class conversation. Now let's go,

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Speaker 1: because you know is that my number one thought would be,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna build this up. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna build this up, and then each one of these

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Speaker 1: teams I have in the league have a value. Okay,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a million dollars or whatever. Okay, So what

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Speaker 1: you're saying that Roushan people can create their own leagues

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Speaker 1: on this platform, I'm saying, why can't you just hold

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Speaker 1: these teams and just let the value, you know, just

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Speaker 1: keep going up, and every time somebody sell their team,

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Speaker 1: you get ten percent of the team. Well that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's a possibility within it. But if you look at

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Speaker 1: platforms like let's take a rope again, let's take a

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Speaker 1: Roadblocks right right, the thing that makes Roadblocks the most

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Speaker 1: valuable is because where you can have one, let's say

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Speaker 1: Roadblocks wanted to be the only developer, right typically, so

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Speaker 1: just like a league a developer, right, a league, Let's

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Speaker 1: let's put league and developer in the same space, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: Roadblocks is a community of developers. So now you have

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Speaker 1: thousands of video games housed in one place. And so

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Speaker 1: that makes Roadblocks worth twenty two billion dollars, where if

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Speaker 1: they were just one video game, maybe they're worth one billion.

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Speaker 1: But because it's so much going on, it's so many

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Speaker 1: other they become the platform, the place for so many

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Speaker 1: other developers or leagues to be able to sustain themselves.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm doing here. I've created a platform

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Speaker 1: where leagues themselves can be housed and they can operate

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Speaker 1: in a virtual world on Shotmakers League like they can

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Speaker 1: they can run their leagues and so instead of it

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Speaker 1: just being one Shotmakers League, it can be thousands of

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Speaker 1: other leagues sitting with on the Shotmakers League platform. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say that again. You know an idea like

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Speaker 1: so many of us, you know, we just love the

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Speaker 1: game of basketball played in the streets. And now you've

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Speaker 1: taken this using tech tech down technology now to being

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Speaker 1: afraid to call somebody and pitch your idea, now to

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Speaker 1: being afraid of the word no, being consistent and educated

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Speaker 1: yourself into building something that I feel it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a franchise that's going to be a huge money

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Speaker 1: maker for you. And I just want to say congratulations, man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man to work, work, still still still

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Speaker 1: working at it right now, still working, still working, but

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Speaker 1: now I definitely appreciate. The hard part is the idea

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Speaker 1: is real, and so the Shopmakers League, founded by Robert Foster, is,

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Speaker 1: like I said, the virtual platform, virtual basketball video competition

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Speaker 1: platform that can expand again, tell everybody how they can

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Speaker 1: find this platform and how they can contact you. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now you can go to ww dot Shopmakers League

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Speaker 1: dot com, create a profile, and again you can you

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Speaker 1: can start you can create your own league right now,

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Speaker 1: and you can start charging people to enter into your competitions.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be fully launching very soon within I

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Speaker 1: want to say maybe a week or two, but definitely

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Speaker 1: before the Marchman, this tournament is over with, and then

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to again create your own profile and

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Speaker 1: start your own league within the shot Makers League. If

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Speaker 1: you want to reach me directly though, I also am

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Speaker 1: on LinkedIn at Robert Foster Um. I love to connect.

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Speaker 1: I also am a podcast podcast host. I have a

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Speaker 1: show called The No Cap Table where I teach people

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Speaker 1: and teach people about starting to startup, how to be

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Speaker 1: a non technical startup founder. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of other non technical founders and technical founders

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Speaker 1: that come on our show and tell their stories. We're

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Speaker 1: associated with Fooboo Radio Cool. I appreciate you, Robert for

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Speaker 1: coming to my show. Appreciate this story. Man. I knew

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Speaker 1: we started out having fun, but man, in the end,

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Speaker 1: but you brought the You brought the heat with the

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Speaker 1: information and inspired a lot of people with your story

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Speaker 1: because your story is one of the I'm just an

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Speaker 1: everyday guy, man, I'm grinding just like everybody and gets

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Speaker 1: what I'm turning that grind into reality. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on Money Making Conversations Master Class. Robert Foster, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me again. If you want to

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Speaker 1: listen to any our stories, you can go to Moneymaking

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