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Speaker 1: Welcome into another episode of Instant Reaction presented by Sony,

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Speaker 1: and we have some very exciting news. On Wednesday, the

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Speaker 1: NFL announced the Indianapolis Colts will host the first ever

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Speaker 1: game in Berlin this regular season. The time and date

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Speaker 1: still to be announced, but to get all the perspective

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Speaker 1: on the growth of the NFL in Germany, the impact

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Speaker 1: I am pleased to welcome to Instant Reaction former Colts

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman Bjorn Werner, who is a Berlin native. He

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Speaker 1: is a presenter and analyst for RTLTV in Germany. They

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Speaker 1: and excuse me, the co founder of Bromance Football in Germany.

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Speaker 1: He hosts a very popular podcast there as well. Beyond

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking the time, man. Obviously, a

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Speaker 1: really exciting day here in Indianapolis. But what's the mood

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Speaker 2: That's exciting, especially for me obviously as a global ambassador,

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Speaker 2: as a former cold to have the Indianapolis Courts come

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Speaker 2: over again. Last time at Frankfurt it wasn't an away game,

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Speaker 2: but now the Indianapolis Colts are hosting this game, and

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Speaker 2: it's very exciting. You know. The whole story for me personally,

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Berlin, made my way over to

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Speaker 2: Courts many many years later. Come over and I play

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Speaker 2: a little role. You just said that the travel agent.

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Speaker 2: I actually liked that a lot, you know, trying to

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Speaker 2: That's so it's very exciting. Another step for this game

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Speaker 2: to grow in Germany and in Europe, and I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: So the Colts in twenty twenty four they were able

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Speaker 1: to get global marketing rights for the German and Austrian markets.

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Speaker 1: So there's been a growing partnership between the Colts and

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Speaker 1: Germany specifically. Obviously you mentioned beyond the Frankfurt game in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, which was a huge success. One of

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Speaker 1: my favorite moments from that game was seeing you give

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Speaker 1: You know, that was a really cool moment there and

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Speaker 1: there's a ton of interest in the Colts coming off

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Speaker 1: of that game. How have you seen maybe over the

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Speaker 1: in Germany? And the second part of that is what

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Speaker 2: First of all, I was the only connection that the

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Speaker 2: why the Colts' name was always kind of around. There's

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Speaker 2: and they kind of had already a strategy to build

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Speaker 2: a it's a competition of trying to touch the next

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Speaker 2: And then we are trying to obviously build up to

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Speaker 2: You know. This is kind of like all these crazy

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Speaker 2: Somehow they enter this world of the NFL. And now

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Speaker 2: the goal of those ten teams being in Germany, the

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Speaker 2: be in the Olympia Stadium was a very big one.

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Speaker 2: For the NFL. Roger Goodell always wanted to be back

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Speaker 2: the American Ball nineteen ninety one. You know, Munich was nice,

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Speaker 2: it's very very special for the Indianapolis Colts and everybody involved.

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Speaker 1: So what about Berlin makes it a special destination? I

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Speaker 1: think you know, probably our listeners, our viewers know a

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Speaker 1: couple of things about Berlin, right, you know about the

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty six Olympics at Olympics Stadium. But beyond that,

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Speaker 1: what about Berlin makes it a special place? And why

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, Indianapolis been been a while. It's

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Speaker 2: not as big as Berlin. Berlin, it's very spread out.

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Speaker 2: When you're going to be in Berlin, you can have

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Speaker 2: a different culture. It's so multicultural like New York kind of, right.

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Speaker 2: So it's very exciting just to kind of go around

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Speaker 2: need to visit Berlin, because when you go to Germany,

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Speaker 2: you need to visit Berlin. That's your chance. Now supporting

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis coast and have a nice vacation on top

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Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. You talk about it being almost

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Speaker 1: New York. I'm from Chicago. Chicago's very much a city

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's so many. But one thing is penns

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Speaker 2: So I'm from Berlin. When I grew up in the city,

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Speaker 1: What about the stadium? What can you kind of tell

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Speaker 1: I know the Karl Lewis in the nineteen thirty six Olympics.

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Speaker 1: I know one other thing about Olympic Stadium. It's home

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Speaker 1: hit that header against Ghana in twenty fourteen. I know

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Speaker 1: he plays for Hertha Berlin. But that's about all I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of you know, the NFL has been

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Speaker 2: So if you already have the city, the streets Olympic Stadium,

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited more of Biorn right after this this

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Speaker 1: I I want to ask you about the the impact

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Speaker 2: It's tough obviously to predict, right. What's so tough? American

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Speaker 2: football is a sport where you have to start young

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Speaker 2: then you practice twice or three times a week in

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Speaker 2: season right for the competition levels on another level. So

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Speaker 2: we need to find ways, which we have done that.

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Speaker 2: More and more Germans need to go over and play

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Speaker 2: high school football college football. Right, we never had that

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Speaker 2: many people being in a system, but it shows you

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Speaker 2: how tough it is. Doesn't mean just because you have

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Speaker 2: so many people in the system doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 2: get the next superstar. It's hard to get up there.

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Speaker 2: Even for Americans. There's one point four percent who make

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Speaker 2: it in the NFL from college football players. And I

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Speaker 2: know harder this, right, I've been there, done that. So

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Speaker 2: we had a guy, Sebastian Farmer who played for the

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Speaker 2: Patriots Super Bowl. Shev was the starting right tackle for

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady. So he he was the superstar doing a

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Speaker 2: time where it wasn't as big yet any played off

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Speaker 2: of the line again, right, So the thing is office

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Speaker 2: life never get the love they should. Right now, we

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Speaker 2: have Alman russe and Brown for the Detroit Lions, who

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Speaker 2: is like half German. His mother is German, so obviously

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Speaker 2: we Germans kind of jump on that and say he's

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Speaker 2: a little German. But yeah, we are still waiting for

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Speaker 2: the next first round pick, for the next starter in Germany.

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Speaker 2: Brennond Ryman is giving that for the Austrian fans to

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Speaker 2: cheat on right now. So he's doing a great job

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Speaker 2: for a small country like this, having a starting left

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Speaker 2: tackle in the NFL and doing a pretty good job. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're in Germany. We're waiting for the next star to become.

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Speaker 2: How the faster we kind of built this infrastructure to

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Speaker 2: get more people or continuously building the pipeline in the

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Speaker 2: US and get them over and support them there. The

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Speaker 2: faster it's going to happen. But right now it's still

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Speaker 2: like even though we never had as many people over

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Speaker 2: there than ever before, there's no support, there's no there's

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Speaker 2: no be a path here in Germany with an organization

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Speaker 2: where it's the NFL may be doing it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Datafel kind of just puts stuff into the system, right,

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Speaker 2: and they're trying to build a flag football system. But

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Speaker 2: we need to really like a hands on identifying at

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Speaker 2: a young age and push it right and and and

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Speaker 2: and help them with the paperwork to be the stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's a lot of headache for a

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Speaker 2: German or international person to go over to play college football,

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Speaker 2: right with all the stuff that's that you have to

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Speaker 2: fill out and and and get through. It's it's it's

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Speaker 2: not that easy. So if we if we can kind

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Speaker 2: of uh stop that, you know, and and support in

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Speaker 2: this area, maybe we are going to be a lot

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Speaker 2: better off in the next few years.

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Speaker 1: That's a great perspective.

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Speaker 2: Born.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here on this episode of Instant

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Speaker 2: Yes soon, yes, yes soon.

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