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Speaker 1: Right, We're standing in this room Niche, Alex, Mike, and

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Speaker 4: Welcome to episode three ninety five. Jesse Joe Dylan. This

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Speaker 4: past year has been insane for her. I had to

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Speaker 2: Didn't even know. She was like, oh, wow, because that

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Speaker 4: She's like really, see, that's how you know things are

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Speaker 4: hitting Jess right. But I liked her because even then,

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Speaker 4: I know I don't really feel like but really cool conversation. Now,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about her notable releases. Ten thousand Hours. She

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Speaker 2: Because that song had so so so many streams, still

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Speaker 2: does Old Dominion Memory Lane, which.

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Speaker 4: Is on the chart right now. It's number fifteen or so.

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Speaker 4: Cole Swindell Break Up in the.

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Speaker 4: In twenty ten, she got a Grammy nomination for her

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Speaker 2: It's her story.

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Speaker 4: It's her born and raised in Nashville, moving off, trying

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Speaker 4: Country's the Hall of Fame. Wildly famous and successful songwriter.

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Speaker 4: But man is a great talk really enjoyed the time

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Speaker 4: with her. Here she is Dun Dun du Jesse Joe

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Speaker 4: Dylan follow her at Jesse Joe Dillon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: So I had the old dominion guys, we're rolling by

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Speaker 4: We were talking about their latest single, Memory Lane. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and you'd come up even in that conversation. He'd come

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Speaker 1: You know some bands, for sure, I'm thinking of some

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Speaker 2: Megan Maroney was in I love her. Yeah, and we've

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Speaker 2: You can see the blood, you can feel the blood.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the best, most vulnerable way where you're like,

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Speaker 4: I think she gets a raw deal because she is pretty, yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh, she is the real deal and always comes in

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Speaker 4: That's what I told her too, Like she knows who

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Speaker 1: Yes, And a girlfriend of mine was just one of

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Speaker 4: Not to stay on Megan, but I feel like you've

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Speaker 2: But something about her.

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Speaker 4: And I have another old menu question. But yeah, she

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Speaker 4: dang go Megan, Yeah, whatent to a different key? Let's

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Speaker 2: Yes, I got older than she is. She does is very.

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Speaker 3: Much and she was she a marketing major? Is that

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Speaker 4: When she was a she was she was something like that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you can really see that in her too.

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Speaker 1: It's very very professional, very Okay, this is I see

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Speaker 3: And I love that she did it when she was sick.

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Speaker 3: I love him so much best friends. Yes, he's told

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Speaker 1: Last time I saw him, he was talking about you. You

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Speaker 4: I was talking to Brandy I don't know where it was,

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Speaker 3: Okay, you listen to the song's two songs.

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Speaker 1: I actually just told her. I was like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: Were you guys close before you started working?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like yours, And I think I mean you

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Speaker 4: That ever, I was not before I knew them, Okay,

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Speaker 4: It's like the people that work on my show there.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, how much of a factor is he in

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Speaker 2: Like does it I.

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Speaker 4: Know the answer to this, but I'm gonna ask it

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Like I you shoot guns, always say willing and.

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Speaker 3: Well you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: that really, whether it's a writer, manager, whether it's your

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Speaker 1: publisher or whatever, I think it's so important.

445
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Speaker 3: I see that with artists too.

446
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: Where they'll get storry eyed about a big manager that

447
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: has big clients, and sometimes they are great for an artist,

448
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: but other times I'll think, gosh, I hope they have

449
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Speaker 1: someone over there in like a day to day that.

450
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Speaker 2: They don't get lost. Right, it's easy to get lost.

451
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Speaker 1: Yes, especially if they have someone so big that it's

452
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Speaker 1: a twenty four hour a day.

453
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Speaker 3: That's who they're going to focus on.

454
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Speaker 4: Because the benefit is, let's just say I'm a new

455
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Speaker 4: artist and I get on with Luke Brian like Carrie's manager.

456
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Speaker 4: Luke and I go and I'm like, I'm a new artist,

457
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Speaker 4: and carries like I'd like to manage you. Well, the

458
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Speaker 4: benefit is you have a lot of leverage with Luke.

459
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Speaker 4: Heck yah, Luke's on new tours. Are going to be

460
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Speaker 4: on the tour. But what's tough is Luke twenty four

461
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 4: hours and you're probably not going to get that attention

462
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Speaker 4: unless Carrie goes, I've got this other day to day

463
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Speaker 4: that it's going to manage you and hopefully that relationship

464
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Speaker 4: is great and hopefully the other day to day.

465
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Speaker 2: Well they got to make money, yeah, and making a

466
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Speaker 2: lot off you right away, right, So yeah, it's kind

467
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: of a sensitive situation.

468
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Speaker 3: It really is.

469
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it's find your champion. It's like

470
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Speaker 1: a relationship or something. I find your person or whatever.

471
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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest things for artists

472
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Speaker 1: and songwriters alike, because it's so symbiotic when it feels right,

473
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Speaker 1: because I spent years having it not be and so

474
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Speaker 1: when I found Alex and Michael Olnar, it just it definitely,

475
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Speaker 1: I feel like has changed my life.

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Speaker 5: We interrupt this interview to bring you a message from

477
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Speaker 5: our sponsor.

478
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Speaker 2: This is the Bobby Cast. Have you heard any of

479
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Speaker 2: the AI songs?

480
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a few of that.

481
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm and writers I know right now

482
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Speaker 1: and if any of you end up listening to this, no,

483
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you. Why are you even messing with

484
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Speaker 1: that as a joke. I'm like, yo, please stop missing

485
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: using that. It's gonna take our job.

486
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Speaker 3: I hope not.

487
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: But like the Drake in the Weekend song.

488
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Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't heard that, but I have already talked about.

489
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Speaker 2: It's really good. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, it hits pretty hard.

490
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Speaker 3: I wish you guys could please.

491
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you can find on the computer to get

492
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Speaker 2: or something. They pulled it down from everywhere they did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Luke Bryan was pretty bad, and even Luke

494
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Speaker 4: admitted it was like bad bad.

495
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Speaker 2: Its good? Yeah, it was good.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

497
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Speaker 1: I was thinking of that chat GPT thing that people

498
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Speaker 1: have been like, Oh, I type this thing in to

499
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Speaker 1: see if it could write a song.

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Speaker 2: Oh have you done it yet?

501
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Speaker 3: No?

502
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 2: Watch this.

503
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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

504
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: This me either, but I messed with it all the time.

505
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Speaker 3: You too.

506
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: But you can say to anything.

507
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Speaker 4: For example, I'm gonna say, but yeah, you're right, this

508
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 4: is like super slippery.

509
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 2: And also who owns it? If you use it? Yeah?

510
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 2: Use it?

511
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go write me a rap about Bobby Bones.

512
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: Watch this. So let's see. Here we go. It's thinking,

513
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 2: it is thinking, y'all.

514
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: I got a story to tell about a radio host

515
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Speaker 3: that's known quite well. He's the king of country, the

516
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 3: man with the mic. You know who I'm talking. It's

517
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: Bobby Bones, right, he started out in.

518
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Speaker 2: Our It'll just do the whole thing.

519
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: This is crazy.

520
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

521
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: King of country though? I mean, that's a pretty good line.

522
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Speaker 2: I did, I know rightly.

523
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: I was like, dang, that's good.

524
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Speaker 2: He's the king of country. Uh the ten thousand hours,

525
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Speaker 2: which is hours? You know.

526
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Speaker 4: I know Dan and Shape rather well. We moved down

527
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 4: about the same time and friends a long time, and

528
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: you know that song by itself was going to be amazing. Anyway, Yes,

529
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 4: when you heard that Bieber was going to get on it.

530
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Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I still can't believe it.

531
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Speaker 1: And the way that it happened is a memory I

532
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: just never will forget. I was in New York with Alex,

533
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: my publisher, doing a some kind of panel I don't

534
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: grammy panel maybe and Dan I like posted something on

535
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: my story and he responded to it and was like, Yo,

536
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Speaker 1: are you in New York? I really want to see

537
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: you today? And I was like, yeah, I'm with Alex.

538
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Let's all meet up. So we ended up going to

539
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: this like sports bar some guys were watching games or something,

540
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: and then he was like, Hey, we got to go

541
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: back to my hotel. I want to play you something.

542
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: I had no idea that even cut the song. I'm

543
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Speaker 1: assuming at this point though, I'm like, oh, maybe they

544
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Speaker 1: cut ten thousand hours.

545
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, just Dan and Shay. Yes, got it.

546
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: So we get to the hotel.

547
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: We're standing in his room, Niche, Alex, Mike, and Dan

548
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, guess who's on ten thousand hours with us?

549
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: And I was like who, He's said.

550
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber and it was like, shut up, that is ridiculous.

551
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: I was like, for real, though, I want to hear it,

552
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: and he was like, no, he's really on the song

553
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was a dude, no, blah

554
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: blah blah. I did not believe him. And finally he

555
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: just put headphones on my head and it already sounds

556
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: so great from the top. I was like tearing up.

557
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: And then when he started singing, I mean I just cried.

558
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's like video of it wherever. We're all

559
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: freaking out, but it is like one of my favorite memories.

560
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: I still can't believe it, really, I don't think sometimes is.

561
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: That like a different ballpark financially when it goes pop?

562
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, and that song Like Hardy even texted

563
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Speaker 1: me when they were just in Australia and he was like, bro,

564
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Speaker 1: I'm in.

565
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: This coffee shop and they're playing ten thousand hours.

566
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Speaker 1: It's crazy just because it's like, actually I think it

567
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: is New Zealand. It wasn't even Australia because it's been

568
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: out a while now, but that and that's a difference.

569
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Speaker 1: I think too that having someone like Justin on a

570
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: song it becomes so international where country I mean maybe

571
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: some country stuff does that. I had never had country

572
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: stuff that did that, but it definitely is different money wise.

573
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: If you get on a pop chart.

574
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: Is there a song that obviously another artist is known for.

575
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: They may have written with you, or you may have

576
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: written it and then it got to them, but it's

577
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 4: very personal to you. But it's just somebody else singing it.

578
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Meaning it's about your thoughts, not just because

579
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 4: you're so close to it because you wrote it how

580
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: you're feeling. But I mean, it's like if you were

581
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: singing a song, and that'd be the song you would

582
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: sing because it really represents who you are.

583
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: I think.

584
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Speaker 1: Actually, a Brandy you haven't heard it yet, but she

585
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: wrote a song just the two of us that's she

586
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: put out a month ago.

587
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it's called Buried.

588
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: We wrote it last year, I think in the spring,

589
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: just at her that is song. It's hard for me

590
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: to listen to that song because I had gone through

591
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: a really brutal breakup. Is completely gutting to me, and

592
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: it's still hard for me to She sounds amazing. I mean,

593
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: the way they recorded her vocals even was a really

594
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: cool thing that Brandy Carlile did. But it's that one's

595
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: really hard because it feels so personal.

596
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: That it makes I don't know that one's hard.

597
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: What do you do? You do the song right A rounds?

598
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

599
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, I'm kind of shy, and I

600
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: even coming in here today, I was nervous, to be honest.

601
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: Okay now though, yes, yeah I'm super warm, right yeah

602
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: you are, like yeah, yeh.

603
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: Yes you are. But I get I get a rash.

604
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: I might even have it right now when I get

605
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: hot or nervous. I remember when I was trying to

606
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: get a publishing deal back when I was like twenty one,

607
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: I had.

608
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: I was sitting across from.

609
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: Frank Lydell songs on my guitar and I went into

610
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: the bathroom and it was so bad, like I was like,

611
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: he probably didn't hear anything.

612
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: I just did.

613
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: He watched this rash crawl up me like I'm the

614
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: Walking Dead or something like. She So I hate the

615
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: long story. Short rounds kind of scare me, but I don't.

616
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 4: Because I've never seen you play around and not that

617
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: I go to many of them now, but I've been

618
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: a few and I've played and if you do some

619
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 4: of my comedy stuff, yes, but I never played with

620
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 4: you or seen you play one.

621
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: I know. Maybe I need to make myself do.

622
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: Chase actually texted me the other day about doing private

623
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: stuff and he was like, dude, like, come on, let's

624
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: just go do it together like Jesse and Jr. And

625
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: we make money whatever, and it's really good to get over.

626
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: I know, that's what he said.

627
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: You have big songs. You have really big songs and

628
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: a lot of them. It's really good, easy money. Hard

629
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: to get those offers, right, it's really if.

630
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: That's what he I know. And have you ever taken

631
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: beta blockers?

632
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: No, you probably don't thought about it.

633
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: Okay, me too for golf though, but because I can, Yeah,

634
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: you get two DUTs.

635
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 3: Really that's your nerve wracking.

636
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: Like I can walk out on stage do a bunch

637
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: of new comedy for two thousand people.

638
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: I know some of us gonna bomb. That's okay. I'm

639
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: not nervous. I can do radio, be on live TV.

640
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: Whatever.

641
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

642
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: All good.

643
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: Because I've played it and I've failed so many times.

644
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: I know the worst case is going to happen. I

645
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: can get through it, no big deal.

646
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: I like, if I'm playing golf, Yeah, it sucks because

647
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm like I'm shaky at crap. Yes, so I've thought

648
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: about that. Are you thinking about taking one for Oh?

649
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: For that, I've thought about it because it's it's not

650
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: like Xanax. Right, No, we were messes you up. Okay,

651
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: because I saw it literally on the Kardashians or something

652
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I think, where they were like, just take a Bana

653
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: blocker and I was like, what is that? And then

654
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: I looked into it and now I'm like, maybe I

655
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: can do that to play more so I don't get.

656
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: A rash or just go Xana go fulls.

657
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: Hands Fullanax, drink some whiskey.

658
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: Good scene.

659
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be like my dad in the eighties.

660
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: I saw a TikTok he Dad that was so funny.

661
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: By the way, I was talking about on the show

662
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: like two weeks ago, where he was talking about he

663
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: did a whole lead in about how he hates funny songs,

664
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: and then he goes out property.

665
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so funny, such a.

666
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: Funny He's up there just you know, singing, playing and

667
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: then he's like, I hate funny songs, and George Strait

668
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: called and then here, well this song paid me a

669
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: lot of money, so I'm doing And so I just

670
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: thought it was so fun growing up in a house

671
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: where your dad that's I mean, he's celebrated for it.

672
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: And only does he do it, but he celebrated for it.

673
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: Did you always know that's what you wanted to do?

674
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: I think yes, but I didn't want to want to

675
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah that makes sense.

676
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Derek Walls, I don't know. You probably know Derek

677
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: guitar player. He amazing guitar player. He and I talked

678
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: about it a lot because we had a similar upbringing

679
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: that way, with his mom being a great singer, his

680
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: dad and step jobbing great guitar players. But I tried

681
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: so hard to not want to write, and eventually I just,

682
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean actually moved to California for a year after

683
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: high school just to get away from where I was from.

684
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Really and like yes, and I was working and I

685
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: met this lady that Kathleen Carrey. She was at Sony

686
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: TV at the time, and I would I would go

687
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: play her songs. And finally one day and I had

688
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: not talked to my dad about it at all, like

689
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd played him any thing I'd done

690
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: at all at that point. And one day I was

691
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: in their meeting with her and she was looked at

692
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: me and was like, go home.

693
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: I was like, dang, Kathleen, that's me.

694
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: Like about I was thinking like she didn't like song

695
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: or something, and She's like, no, I mean, you write

696
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: country songs and you're.

697
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: Good at it.

698
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't care who your dad is, I don't care

699
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: which complexes go try and figure it out.

700
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: And so then I tried to do that.

701
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: I guess I didn't think about the complex part of

702
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: it because that's heavy.

703
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's still I mean there's still sometimes that

704
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. I think I'll think about

705
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: being like Sean Lennon or someone like that, Jacob Dillon.

706
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: I don't even know what you do with that.

707
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: I really don't, you know, because I'm old enough now

708
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: where it's not really it's not really that. I'm so

709
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: proud of my dad, and.

710
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't even think about you dad. When I think

711
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: about you.

712
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: That's so nice.

713
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: And I don't know that I would have gotten over

714
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: to him. But you mentioned your dad in the eighties,

715
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, I just watch a TikTok

716
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: by him. Yes, so that put me there. But I

717
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't. I don't. I don't know that

718
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: I would or whatn't, But I don't. I don't think

719
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: about you and that being your dad when I think

720
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: about you. I don't know if that matters to you.

721
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: It matters a lot to me, especially coming from me.

722
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, it.

723
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: Does, I don't know it. To me, I know it,

724
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: but I don't associate those two.

725
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: I think it would matter to him even too, because

726
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: he I know, he always was like, you've got to

727
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: stop when I was really young, because I had people

728
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: be shitty to me for what reason for being like

729
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: his kid and I really went existing well just that

730
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: they it was either the attitude of she's probably not

731
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: going to be good, she's only doing this because and

732
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: I went out of my way to not have my

733
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: dad be affiliated with me trying to get a deal,

734
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: or any guy just kind of tried I was so

735
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: conscious of him and what other people would think that,

736
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: so that was hurtful.

737
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: And then I will never forget I had.

738
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: To write with a guy I had idolized most of

739
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: my life early on in getting a deal, and he

740
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: was such a dick to me, and I couldn't figure

741
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: out during the first part of the rite what was

742
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: going on. And then he started saying things about my dad,

743
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: and I was saying, Oh, he has weird beef with

744
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: my dad, so I guess he's going to take it

745
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: out on me. And it was just such a bummer

746
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: of like the dometer heroes kind of moment. I'll still

747
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: have things certain times, not often, but I'll think with

748
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: some of the older cats, who are like a lot

749
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: of the people I respect the most, that I'll think,

750
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I wonder if this has something to do with my

751
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: dad versus me.

752
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, Well, could be a different generation to

753
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: generation thing. I don't think about you and then think

754
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: about your dad, and when the people bring you up.

755
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't think about your dad.

756
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't thought about your dad until you said my dad,

757
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's gotta be.

758
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: I talked to him this morning. I think is why

759
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 3: he's owned my brain.

760
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: That's gotta be tough. Though.

761
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: Again, I mean I'm a therapy person, yes, and I

762
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: have my traumas for sure.

763
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: Yes.

764
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: Actually the list is so long, it's like one of

765
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: those Santa Claus lists, you know, where aig on the spool.

766
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: But I definitely would Yeah, that would be that would

767
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: be a thing.

768
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

769
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

770
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Speaker 2: When you say don't meet your heroes, who have you met? Thought?

771
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 2: It was awesome? That was almost he wrote to you.

772
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to get emotional. I actually.

773
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: He first was time thinking of his Keith Gaddis, who

774
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: he just passed away on Sunday, like unexpectedly. And he

775
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: was someone who I met him several years ago. And

776
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean Keith was so cool, was just rated. Did

777
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: you ever meet him?

778
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: Just met him and didn't know him? Okay, what was

779
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: special about him?

780
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: He just was the coolest he had. I don't it

781
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: sounds like whoo, but energetically, I mean the way he walked,

782
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: the way he talked. He was such a great songwriter

783
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: and such a great player. And I was so intimidated

784
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: when I first we first were meeting, I was like,

785
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I want him to like me or whatever. And he

786
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: was someone who's always so great to me and was

787
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: a person who early on was like, hey, you're really

788
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: good at this.

789
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: Get over yourself.

790
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: He gave me confidence, yes.

791
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: And and he I think he he did that for

792
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and he is. I mean else

793
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Frito Place is a song I think any songwriter in

794
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: town probably is like, I would give my right arm

795
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: to have written that song and so many other songs

796
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: of his.

797
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 3: But he was someone for me definitely.

798
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: That was a good good meet your hero and became

799
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: a friend and another friend's husband and yeah.

800
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: Well I appreciate you sharing that. I know that's very

801
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: sensitive thing because he just passed away.

802
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what about artists.

803
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: You ever get in a room with somebody you're like,

804
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: this is awesome and then it was awesome.

805
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: Oh let's see, I'm trying to think who.

806
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: As you think I'll vamp and give you a couple

807
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: of mine? Oh yeah, you know for me meeting Dolly,

808
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: And there's no way Dolly can live up to what

809
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: Dolly always has, but she does. Somehow she does.

810
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: I can't imagine.

811
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: And I've been able to do five six seven things

812
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: with her to the point where I can just see her.

813
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: She's like Bobby.

814
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: It's just like it's there's no way she can live

815
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: up to what I think Dolly is supposed to be

816
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 4: by all the interviews, TV shows, movie you go down,

817
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 4: But somehow right she does it. It's like when there's

818
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: no way Lebron was supposed to He couldn't have lived

819
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: up to the hype. Lebron could never live it up

820
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: to the hype when he was in high school. Plus

821
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: but he did. Yeah, Dolly's that it's unbelieved. Riba. You

822
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: meet Riba, you hang out with Riba. I've been lucky

823
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: enough to do some stuff with Riba, and you go.

824
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I get it.

825
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing that people want and you can't

826
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: build it, you can't create.

827
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: But she has it. She also works hard and is

828
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: super talented. But the it, yes, Riba is amazing, amazing.

829
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: So I'll ask you again, who have you got like

830
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 4: to write with or put in a room with? And

831
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: you're like, this is super cool and then they ended

832
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: up being super cool.

833
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm like thinking, my brain is thinking, there's so

834
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: many cool artists. I'll tell you someone who I mean

835
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: we're peers and now like friends. But it was I

836
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: will say it was a trip to me to get

837
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: to know and she's exactly what like I would have

838
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: is Miranda. I mean, she's such a g she's such

839
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: a great songwriter, she's so herself.

840
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: I do. I love her a lot.

841
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: I think that's a good one too, because Miranda and

842
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: I've been able to not get to know Miranda like

843
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 4: I have Reaba or Dolly, but I've spent some time

844
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: with Miranda, especially with animals, right, yes.

845
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: Like that's something we have in common.

846
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 4: So that's something that we have done things together with

847
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: and about and Miranda. You have this image of Miranda

848
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: being like for real She's being like a for real person. Yes,

849
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: but sometimes, as you know, that ain't the reality here. Yes,

850
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: but it's super cool to know that that's how she exists.

851
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's just unabashedly herself, which I always

852
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: had loved her music so much, and so that was

853
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: really cool too. Like you're saying to know that, is

854
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: there anyone you haven't met that you would want to meet?

855
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: It's a good question and this world, no, okay, but

856
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: there there are Like my hero is David Letterman never

857
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 4: got to meet him.

858
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: I haven't got I mean, it's not dead. I've never

859
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: never got to meet him. So that one's we.

860
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: Got to make that happen. How can we make that happen?

861
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I have.

862
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: He was the first person that I ever saw on

863
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: television that was goofy, a bit of reverent odd mm hmm,

864
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: didn't look like everybody else, And I was like, oh,

865
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: that that means I can do it. Yes, I mean

866
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 4: that literally watching this goofy tall white. But he's so cool, right,

867
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: And I am not cool.

868
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: But if you are, you're yourself well, which is cool.

869
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: If that's cool, then okay, I'm the coolest there.

870
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: It is, I don't know, so that's to me, what's

871
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: what cool is.

872
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: But he gave me the confidence to get it to go. Okay,

873
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: I can. I don't got to look like anybody else.

874
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: It does.

875
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I don't know if I

876
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: want to meet him because I don't want to be

877
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: let down because he's such a big part of all

878
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: that I do. So Letterman, I haven't met. I've only

879
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 4: met Adam Sandler on Zoom and that's amazing.

880
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: Even that was really cool, right.

881
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 3: Okay, that's amazing.

882
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: No way.

883
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: So Adam Sandler to me was the comedy music and

884
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: you know I tour playing comedy music, and I was

885
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: just like, this is so funny. You can do stupid stuff. Yes,

886
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: and so I haven't met Sandler. Those are probably the

887
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: two big ones that I haven't met. You who have

888
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: you not met that you'd like to meet?

889
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: Even here?

890
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: Well, I can think of my number. John Henley would

891
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: be my number.

892
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Which would be big Eagles fan.

893
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: Yes, his writing too. I'm Boys of Summer is one

894
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs of all time. And I and

895
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: now I'm scared to meet him.

896
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: I'll be scared. He was really nice to Brandy.

897
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: But I hear some mixed mixed reviews there about don.

898
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: I think I've heard mixed reviews of all the Eagles though,

899
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: but I think because they've just had their their seasons.

900
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: Yes, I met Joe Walsh and the tood seasoning. Yes,

901
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: he kissed me on the cheek and said thanks baby,

902
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: because I was like, Joe, I'm such.

903
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: A big fan.

904
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: But I read his book and I was like, this

905
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: dude's got to be cool.

906
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was cool. It's exactly what he expected. He

907
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: was I mean, he was brief, but it was really cool.

908
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: I didn't wash my face for a week and.

909
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow,

910
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

911
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: The Eagles? Are you a fan? Like listening? Like all

912
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: of it?

913
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: Pretty much?

914
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: I mean and their solo stuff, you know, and I

915
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: love them in his writing?

916
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: Do you know Vince at all?

917
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: I've met Vince a few times.

918
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: I mean I asked because he's been goat he played.

919
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: I went to that show here, did you? It was

920
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: pretty sick.

921
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: It was awesome, and what I liked about it was

922
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: it was old, so they didn't scream the whole time.

923
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: We just got to enjoy the show.

924
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and I loved watching all of the older people.

925
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: Like feel like they did. Yes, that was the best part.

926
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: I saw, like people like making out.

927
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: So I was like, it's in the seventies, man, But

928
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: it made me have so much joy.

929
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 4: That's what I want to do in twenty years when

930
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: Creed's played, he can get up and dry hump my

931
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 4: wife and remember this. Yeah, yes, yeah, e Vince. And

932
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 4: also the kids, the son of which one that died

933
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 4: one of the Eagles was playing too.

934
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh Glenn.

935
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So, yeah, that was It was such

936
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: an excellent show, so sick and so different than like

937
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: because I went to watch Morgan walland here nobody scream

938
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: the whole time. You can't hear anything. Yeah, the whole time.

939
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: I know they had they recorded the whole thing on

940
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: their phone and they screamed the whole time.

941
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: And it was like, yeah, I'm good.

942
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: It's so good.

943
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: It's so hard for me to enjoy the show because

944
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: I now that I'm not twenty two. I know, I know,

945
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: I just want to sit.

946
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: I know.

947
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: It's like ball games too though, so I'm like, you know,

948
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: I like going. I like watching them on TV now

949
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: too because I can get all the angles.

950
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: I'm completely with you in games, and I.

951
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: Feel like I because of that, because I've always been

952
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 4: like so, I just want to be there.

953
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm with you. I don't think I don't

954
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: think we're it's you know what, I'm going to die

955
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: on the hill.

956
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: It's better.

957
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: Sorry, it just says now I'm not going to commit

958
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: to better because I just don't want to get killed

959
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: on that hill. Keep me out of that can be

960
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: a hill. I'll put it. Diskuis on and go up

961
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: there with you hang out.

962
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: What is your process as in I'm always thinking of

963
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: either show ideas or jokes or or funny song ideas

964
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 4: all the time in my phone.

965
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: Yes, it doesn't ever shut off sometimes when you wanted to.

966
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: Yes, you know when I'm like almost asleep.

967
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: Yes, and then then I then I have.

968
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: To get up and write it in because if I

969
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: do the stupid thing where I go to sleep, I'm like,

970
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: I know I had an idea last night. Yeah, I

971
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: can't remember it.

972
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I had the worst feeling. And because you'll swear

973
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: this was the most this was the one one. Yeah,

974
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: and then or the ones you do write down, I

975
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: think it's the one you wake up, you go up

976
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: from your phone, like, get to it.

977
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: This is trash, you know what I mean.

978
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: I've done too where I've woken up. I guess I

979
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: was kind of dreaming about it and I was like,

980
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: this would be so Funy'll joking out record a voice memo.

981
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: And so I listened back to it and I'm like,

982
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: this isn't this is never funny. That was ever funny.

983
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I love in rights.

984
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: When anybody, any of us, will hold turn it down,

985
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: hold it up to their own ear and it's.

986
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 3: Like play it for the class, let's hear how about

987
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: all the melody?

988
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: Hear it? Yeah, it's just so they can know if

989
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: they want to actually share it.

990
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: Even with your.

991
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: Utmost homies, I feel like everyone's still like, like.

992
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: I don't know.

993
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: You know, you have the notes, do what do you

994
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: put it? And you put in a notes app? Do

995
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: you put it in notes app? Yeah? Me too.

996
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: I know. I'm like what's in here?

997
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: And so?

998
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: And mine's also you may be way more organized than

999
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: I am, probably, but I've got like for tiktoks I

1000
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: want to do.

1001
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: Oh, you're more organized than me.

1002
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty organized. I have to be. Yeah, I've

1003
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: got song ideas.

1004
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1005
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: I've got no not for you. These are stupid songs.

1006
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: You can't have them.

1007
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: And if you saw it and you still want, I

1008
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: will sue you. I have songs that I've written just

1009
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: so I can be sure to play. So I've got

1010
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: them all.

1011
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: You're really you are really organized. Mine is in the

1012
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: middle of like stuff a grocery list and.

1013
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: Then it's just all one here.

1014
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Or it's stuff that's done I haven't put in the

1015
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: other Oh, I see those people and they freak me

1016
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: out the most, like unter Felps.

1017
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: Other day I think it was Hunter.

1018
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: Sorry, oh no, it'll be like this is a song

1019
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: that's done. But like his was an idea list where

1020
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: it was all in the same document, like all these

1021
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: song titles all just down the page, and I was like, bro,

1022
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: you aren't even doing them like separate.

1023
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Oh you may, it's in one. He's got to scroll

1024
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: to find it, search for it one.

1025
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then I kind of wanted to take it

1026
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: from him and just scroll through it and be like,

1027
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: what should we do.

1028
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: And what had he forgotten that he wrote that was

1029
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: so good because it's lost in the new eyes could

1030
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 2: probably go, yeah, it's great. Yeah.

1031
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: Are you a red dot person on your phone? Do

1032
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: you keep text and emails or do you wipe them

1033
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 4: off immediately?

1034
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: What is red I don't even know what that is.

1035
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 4: So your emails on the state light right here? Yeah,

1036
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: since we've been talking, I've got three emails.

1037
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I can't keep that doing every one.

1038
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: No, I wipe them off me too. It means we're

1039
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 2: done here. I will go through every text, yes, every email,

1040
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: say I'm here.

1041
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: Reply and if I can't reply, I know it's important,

1042
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: I'll save it is unread.

1043
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you can do that now, which I would be

1044
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: helpful for me and.

1045
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: I need to start doing.

1046
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: But then it drives me crazy until I get back

1047
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: to it.

1048
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like, okay, I'm similar to you.

1049
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: I got the red dot people that when it's like

1050
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: one thousands that freaks me out.

1051
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: I don't like, and then I feel like texting.

1052
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes if like someone posts a screenshot or something, I'm like,

1053
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: is this a flex that You're like, I.

1054
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: Have three hundred un read messages? You know what I mean?

1055
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it is. Yeah, I definitely do.

1056
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: I rarely put my phone away, but when I do

1057
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: for extended amount of time, I'll be like, I can't

1058
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: wait to get back to my phone because I got

1059
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: so many text messages.

1060
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: I'm so cool. And then it's like none.

1061
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: The worst feeling.

1062
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 4: Nobody has text me like, I don't need to be reminded,

1063
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 4: So that's why I keep my phone on.

1064
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: Mostly I'll think it's not addicted to my phone. No,

1065
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: I just don't like when I put my phone away,

1066
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: but I'm.

1067
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: Reminded of how big of a loser I am because

1068
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: nobody text me it's the worst.

1069
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: Do you think you could write a song? Let's say

1070
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: my life depended on it.

1071
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: And I called you and I said hey, I said, look,

1072
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 4: I'm already stressed. This guy's got a gun in my head,

1073
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: and I need you right now. I need you to

1074
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: write a song, a hit song for me in an hour.

1075
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: You have one hour to do it. Can you write

1076
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: a song? And it's got to go? You know, it's

1077
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 4: got to be at least a top ten song on

1078
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: the country chart. And if you don't, I'm gonna get

1079
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 4: shot in the head. Do you think you could do

1080
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 4: it in an hour?

1081
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? I would FaceTime Chase and be Bobby's going to

1082
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: get shot. We have to do this.

1083
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: And what would you What are the elements that you

1084
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: would put in a song that you know are are? Yes?

1085
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: Are so hard in the line? Like is it claps? Whistles?

1086
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: Is it whiskey?

1087
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: Like? What are the things it's like? Easily?

1088
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to use the word generic, but I'm universal, Yes,

1089
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: But with melody lyrics.

1090
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: You could make a hit. What are those keys?

1091
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: Well? I definitely think it would be tempo. If I

1092
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: was trying to get more guaranteed thematically, I feel like

1093
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: we've gotten out of broke country and have moved into

1094
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: like redneck country. So I would definitely like go into

1095
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: that if it had to be.

1096
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: Or if you're not done, I get shot too, Okay.

1097
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but you know what I say all that,

1098
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: and I would look through my phone and if hopefully

1099
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: I would have a great idea that had heart. I

1100
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: still feel like songs. No, I mean, even if it

1101
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: was tempo is maybe I till you can't vibe or something? Though, Yeah,

1102
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I think I could do it.

1103
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: Do you did you write today?

1104
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: I did not.

1105
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: I just got back from that writing camp, and I

1106
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: feel like there was one day we were I think

1107
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: fire six songs. Yeah, I blame Ashley the Machine, Yes,

1108
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: And I had told Alex I was like, dude, I

1109
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: need a couple of days because I had done in

1110
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: camp another retreat right before the one I just did,

1111
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: and it was like we stayed up really late and

1112
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: got a lot of songs too. So I've I've felt

1113
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: a little fried. I'm still trying to figure out. That's

1114
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: my biggest mountain I think is we would be curious

1115
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: to ask you this actually taking figuring out how because

1116
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I'm in a workaholics season,

1117
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: but I feel myself starting to need to take some

1118
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: time off. I haven't ever been able to figure out

1119
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: yet what's my perfect you know, equation for how many

1120
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: days a week I need to write?

1121
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 4: Or there's no such thing you think chasing it? Yeah,

1122
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: there's And I say, this is someone who's not good

1123
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: at it, But there's no such thing as that.

1124
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: Not for you, no, not for me. No, But are you?

1125
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 4: Why do you think you want more balance or do

1126
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 4: you just want to want more balance?

1127
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: I think I want to want more balance, yeah, because

1128
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: I definitely am the person.

1129
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: I have other friends that are really good about it.

1130
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: If they get a call at the eleventh I're like, hey,

1131
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: do you want to come do this, They'll be like, no,

1132
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: I have to do X, Y Z.

1133
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 3: And I'm always the person's like, yes, I will.

1134
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: I will at least in the season I've been in

1135
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: lately for sure that it wants to go right.

1136
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: Why do you think you want balance?

1137
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, but then maybe I don't.

1138
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: I think I'm curious at the whole concept because I

1139
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: do feel like songs are kind of just my life.

1140
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: I don't know, I love I never get really sick

1141
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: of working on songs.

1142
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: I feel the same way about work where but also

1143
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 4: think I used work as a way to get away

1144
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: from a traumatic past and it gave me a bridge.

1145
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: I think I did that positive life. Yes, not in

1146
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: the same place. So like I understand my relationship with

1147
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: work and why it is so.

1148
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: But then I met my wife and.

1149
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 4: To her and she's got a master's degree and she's

1150
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: got you know, she was she.

1151
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: Is so smart and killed.

1152
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 4: But balance is so important to her because she has

1153
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 4: a very healthy family life.

1154
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: Like with her family, she had it growing up, it

1155
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: was instilled, and I did not. I don't even have

1156
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: a family.

1157
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: And so it's like two fists that punch each other,

1158
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: not literally, but me trying to figure out what the

1159
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: heck is his balance and her going how do you

1160
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: not want to have some sort of balance?

1161
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: So it has been hard. It's been very hard for me.

1162
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: I know. I listening to you, I'm like, okay, this

1163
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense to me now.

1164
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: That it's been very hard.

1165
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 4: But I listen, I could wake up at four open

1166
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: the computer and then not go to bed until one

1167
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: am and just then fold down the computer because but

1168
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: I also love what I do.

1169
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 3: Right, What time do you wake up every day?

1170
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: This morning? Probably three fifteen. It varies a little bit

1171
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: depending on But what's hardest is when I'm doing shows

1172
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: on weekends and I go back, Yeah, I'll go to

1173
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: sleep at mid nine er one, and then I got

1174
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: to flip back.

1175
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're having a normal day, what time do

1176
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: you go to sleep?

1177
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: Do you have normal days?

1178
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: No?

1179
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a hard question for answered. There is Yeah,

1180
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 4: there's no normal No. I would say if I get.

1181
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: To bed bye, which is the beauty of it. Yes,

1182
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: absolutely not complaining.

1183
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I get to bed by ten, wake up

1184
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 4: about three or so, that's not healthy.

1185
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: Have this or ring that's what Brett has. Well, that's

1186
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: why I know about it.

1187
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he told me about that. I was like,

1188
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm not getting that. I'll get anxiety from the ring.

1189
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Like from that ring.

1190
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: I just watch it for sleep. It is a great

1191
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: indicator of sleep.

1192
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

1193
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: And so and I don't like jewelry, but yeah, Breadhead

1194
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: of Forever and I was like my school and he's

1195
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 4: like our cave.

1196
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: Okay, and it's awesome. So you only look at the sleep,

1197
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 1: yeah pretty much? Okay, Okay, that makes me I would

1198
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: be curious how I'm sleeping, because I don't.

1199
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: Think I sleep well.

1200
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: You don't know, why don't you?

1201
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: I think I don't know. Mine's always running.

1202
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I shouldn't have my phone and I

1203
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: will like messing with ideas or whatever.

1204
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, I feel like no one in my family.

1205
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: Sleeps either, so I've started wondering if it's genetic. My

1206
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: brother's reading some book about sleep. I think Brett has

1207
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: read it too, actually, and he was telling me that

1208
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: the day.

1209
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: Well, this guy's in here talking.

1210
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: About if you're a night owl, that's just who you are, Like,

1211
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: you can't it's really difficult to change.

1212
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of fascinating.

1213
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: Probably my body clock.

1214
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: If I didn't have this morning show, I would go

1215
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 4: to sleep about four thirty AM normally, and I would

1216
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: wake up about twelve thirty or one pm.

1217
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: That would be me.

1218
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: That's me. Yeah, in my perfect world, it's just a

1219
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: lot of stuff gets done before one pm that I

1220
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: got to be a part of. Same, especially you. Yeah,

1221
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: so that's what I would do.

1222
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel like you're Do you feel like you're

1223
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: successful now or do you feel like you're on your

1224
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: way to being successful or do you think you'll ever

1225
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: feel successful.

1226
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 3: Knowing me?

1227
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever will. I would like to.

1228
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm feel proud. I guess good for

1229
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: you of certain songs.

1230
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 4: What song you're proud of? What comes my first first song,

1231
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: break up in Me good? I was gonna ask you

1232
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: about that.

1233
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm very proud of that song and I love

1234
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: having it everything about I love that it's with Cole,

1235
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: who's an old friend, and Chase and John. It's like

1236
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: kind of one of those things everything Dana Shay actually

1237
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: one of that songs, which is funny because Dan, when

1238
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: we first became friends, we're talking about that.

1239
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 2: But it's definitely that song nominated for Grammy. I mean,

1240
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: did you go yes? Pretty cool? It was?

1241
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

1242
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: That is?

1243
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1244
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: That that never. I mean, I would like to win sometime,

1245
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: but we'll see.

1246
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 4: When you're there at a place like that. Do you

1247
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 4: have imposter syndrome or do you feel like you belong?

1248
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: Yes?

1249
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 5: You do.

1250
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: I feel like I we have a I have it

1251
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: really bad?

1252
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: But is it? But what's crazy? And I'll end with

1253
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: this and I believe you. That's the thing. I believe you.

1254
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I see a lot of parallels and just

1255
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: how we just consume out word in. But when you

1256
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 4: say that and I read when we started this, twenty

1257
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 4: one cuts since January first, in thirty two in the

1258
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 4: last twelve months, that's just data you can't argue with, right,

1259
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's how.

1260
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: Can I still argue with it? I guess you do.

1261
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: So you'll never be satisfied until you learn how to

1262
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: just live satisfied regardless.

1263
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Some My therapist tells.

1264
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, I don't know there, how do you?

1265
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: I was going to ask, I've listened to one of

1266
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: your one of yours with Emily Wise Man. I remember

1267
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: when you guys talked about it imposter sentamon. It was

1268
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: the first time I'd ever heard the term. And so

1269
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy you brought that up because I

1270
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: was saying, I need to ask him about that.

1271
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 3: I love it how he's feeling. You're so still okay.

1272
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: And so my therapist constantly tells me, until you're you

1273
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 4: don't feel imposter syndrome doing. I mean, you could fail

1274
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 4: everything else and you still should not feel it. So

1275
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: you're always going to feel it until you don't feel

1276
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: it at all.

1277
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:02,479
Speaker 2: Ever.

1278
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: Wow, And it's.

1279
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: Like, oh, well, I'll just always feel it then, but

1280
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: I know that's how I feel, so I'm just committed.

1281
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: There are certain people I wonder if they ever feel it.

1282
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: I would like to ask Ashley that I should have

1283
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: asked him that this weekend because I asked him a

1284
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 1: lot of questions.

1285
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: But I would think so it's maybe not anymore. But again,

1286
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1287
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: They're something more successful confident people I've met that really

1288
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 4: they question themselves constantly, wow, and they question if they're

1289
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: worth it, and they question. But it makes me feel

1290
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 4: good people admit to that because I don't feel so alone.

1291
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: Same like to hear you say it makes me feel better.

1292
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm really happy for you.

1293
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you're just you're you're annihilating the place, regardless

1294
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 4: of how you feel about it. It's just so cool

1295
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 4: to see if you've had massive success on different levels.

1296
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 4: You have success that's bubbling now with the od stuff,

1297
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 4: the the Brandy stuff I'm sure is going to be awesome,

1298
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 4: but even you know, the Megan Maroney and the Jelly

1299
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 4: Roll stuff, it's like, you're still.

1300
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. And Katie Auferman, who's new. I

1301
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: love Katie, Okay her, you have to play it. I

1302
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: think it's coming out in May. I just killed a

1303
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: man our song. I'm really proud of that song.

1304
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: Is that confession? I really like fession about you.

1305
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: Would you kill?

1306
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 2: Who?

1307
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: Do I get right?

1308
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of people guys I

1309
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: can think of actually where I like out myself get arrested.

1310
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: But you got to play that song because she's the

1311
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: best deal.

1312
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we play a lot of Katie. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1313
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: Look what do your friends call you?

1314
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh gosh, Jesse, jj jj D, Jesse, Joe,

1315
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: j joe. I have a lot of nicknames, too many.

1316
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: You gave me too many options there.

1317
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: I know, what do you want to call me? Jj J?

1318
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: I probably would have thought your friends would call you JJ.

1319
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: I get that and jj D.

1320
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Speaker 1: I get a lot I think, and I think, I

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Speaker 1: can't remember who really started that, but I do get

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Speaker 1: called that one most probably.

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Speaker 2: Well jj D. I feel like it's one too many syllables.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this hour.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: Is so if you were nervous, you didn't act like it.

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Speaker 4: You didn't come off as nervous. Thanks for your generosity

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Speaker 4: and your stories and being vulnerable This is really cool.

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Speaker 2: I love so just keep killing it. There she has you, guys,

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Speaker 2: follow her. Jesse Joe Dillon at Jesse Joe Dillon is

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Speaker 2: all you have, your name universally. Yes, good for you.

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Speaker 2: I know I did it somehow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Okay, that's it and until in another thirty

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Speaker 4: two cuts we'll do this again.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's do it all right, all right bye

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production