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Speaker 1: Stories of men committing suicide as the fire approaches so

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Speaker 1: they don't have to die that way. I just want

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Speaker 1: you to remember this before we get to all the

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Speaker 1: fun questions and everything else on an asked doctor Jesse Friday.

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be a blast. I want you

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Speaker 1: to remember this. Be careful how much you pine for

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Speaker 1: civil war. Let's just have a civil war. Let's get

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Speaker 1: It's time to have some fun on him, ask doctor

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Speaker 1: Jesse Friday. Hang up on the Jordan Harbinger Show. You'll

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Speaker 1: hear amazing stories from people that have lived them, from

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Speaker 1: spies to CEOs, even an undercover agent who infiltrated the

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Speaker 1: Gambino crime family. You're about to hear a preview of

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Speaker 1: the Jordan Harbinger Show with Jack Garcia, who did just that.

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Speaker 1: My career was twenty four out of twenty six years

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Speaker 1: was solely dedicated working on the cover I walk in,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the bar. How there's a bar made dad,

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Speaker 1: good looking young lady. See serving me, Joey. Hey, what

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Speaker 1: would you like? I usually my frank was give me

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Speaker 1: a kettle, one Martinaean, three olives, class of water on

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Speaker 1: the side. I finished the drink. The guys come in.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go in my pocket, take out the

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Speaker 1: big water of money. Hey, am gonna give her one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. If you're with the Mob, I say, hey, Jordan,

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Speaker 1: you're on record with us. That means we protect you.

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Speaker 1: Nobody could shake you down. We could shake you down. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're on record with us. For more on how Jack

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Speaker 1: became so trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization,

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Speaker 1: check out episode three ninety two of The Jordan Harbinger Show,