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Speaker 2: We live on location with another Knuckleheads. Classy man. It's

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Speaker 2: taking it back all the way to season one.

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Speaker 2: This was on the patio at the Big House. We

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Speaker 2: young Jason Tatum and then his teammate was young Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 2: This one we had them both together on the patio

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Speaker 2: at my house. This was early season when we first

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at the time, man, little Jay was in the

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Speaker 3: second year. Kyrie was playing with them. The boys were

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Speaker 3: Celtics and they was trying to do something different, man,

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Speaker 3: And just to have them over to your crib and

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Speaker 3: It was dope, man. And now to see where he

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Speaker 3: at now, Kyrie's in Dallas. Jason Tatum is one MVP candidate.

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Speaker 3: He scratching the surface or trying to get him a chip.

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Speaker 2: Now, for me, it was a family affair at this point.

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Speaker 2: You know, this was a twenty four to seven. Jeff

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Speaker 2: Wexler is the agent and everybody in the building, so

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Speaker 2: that was special for us to be able to do that.

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Speaker 2: It was at the crib. That's why I was at

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Speaker 2: my house. It was at the home. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying for me, I mean, it's a lot doesn't

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Speaker 2: deep conversations with both of them. But I think this

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Speaker 2: because it was a lot touched on and a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot changed for us too, because man,

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Speaker 3: remember that was one of the first first ones done. Man,

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Speaker 3: we was at the crib, so now we'd have moved

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Speaker 3: on up a little bit, got us a little bit

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Speaker 3: of traveling in a little bit of surface. So man,

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Speaker 3: this is definitely one of our classics.

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Speaker 2: This episode aired on March twelfth, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Who was the first person when you got in the

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Speaker 3: league to bust your ad? You was like, we came

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Speaker 3: after that game, like the first game, That first game,

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Speaker 3: first game play is Jose Calder Room.

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Speaker 2: Ever, like you never think that it is like somebody

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Speaker 2: like the super It is never heard the Superstarry.

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Speaker 4: It's always somebody in Cleveland. Cose colroon bust my He

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Speaker 4: gave me twenty six and fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Yo.

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Speaker 4: He was fucking celebrated like a motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: I was sick.

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Speaker 4: I had six and six that night.

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Speaker 5: I was like, Yo, this motherfucker, and I swear to

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Speaker 5: you to this day and shout out to my man

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Speaker 5: Jose cal Roo now because you know I will dog

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Speaker 5: you feel.

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Speaker 4: We won't play right out of next year. That's when

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Speaker 4: I hit that game winner. I was like, Yo, y'all, y'all,

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Speaker 4: mama's playing with me. I'm every time I see you.

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Speaker 4: When he was in New York, I was like, Yo, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Every time I said it was personal every time after respect.

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Speaker 2: Man, Boston Celtics in the building, Kyrie Irving, Jason Tatum's

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Speaker 2: here and we're gonna represent tonight. We appreciate y'all fellas

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Speaker 2: stopping through and keeping the real with it. Man, this

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Speaker 2: is cute, rich and d Miles and knuckleheads.

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Speaker 4: We coach a push up. That's when I knew. I

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Speaker 4: was like, this is.

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Speaker 2: Fact finder right here. This is a story that people

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 6: Can't call me soft, and you can't disrespect where I'm from.

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Speaker 4: I did deal with a lot of losers and that

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Speaker 4: shit sucked. I got your crack.

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Speaker 1: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint, but it's

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Speaker 2: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 2: and you guys got microphone set up in the backyard,

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Speaker 2: and okay, I liked it.

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Speaker 1: I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I liked it.

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Speaker 2: Like that backgrounding and shot here because we're sitting here

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Speaker 2: on location at the Boom Boom Room a k a.

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Speaker 2: The Juke Joint aka the Honeycomb hide Out. So we

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Speaker 4: Who's the one person?

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Speaker 3: Oh man first, not the first person. They gotta hold

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Speaker 6: I remember the first game, playing Cleveland, first time coming back.

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Speaker 6: You know, I set a screen on somebody and I slipped.

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Speaker 4: He threw me a little live past.

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Speaker 6: It's on some hang time, so it took four seconds

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Speaker 1: You watched.

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Speaker 4: Then he had a chance to bang on.

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Speaker 5: Broun right there to first play like yo, show him

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Speaker 5: what's up. He came out and he was about to

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Speaker 1: Give me that like you're blaming me.

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Speaker 1: Ball, like I love the a Q.

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Speaker 4: He could have caught it, demons, he could have caught

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Speaker 1: your boy, your boy Chris.

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Speaker 4: He gave me like thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Don't feel bad though, because at least you to a

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Speaker 2: shot block. My first time ever in life getting dunked

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Speaker 2: he just put he pushed me.

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Speaker 4: Big dom hang on, he laughed.

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Speaker 1: I think I swear. I say, boy, you know I

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Speaker 2: That's how he did me, like first time ever in

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Speaker 4: It's talking about the lout again. How does it feel

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Speaker 5: The I told you, I told you, I told you

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Speaker 3: Stuff we ain't gonna talk about. This is for my man,

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Speaker 3: like this is a new thing. How does it feel

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Speaker 6: No, it feels great because you know, growing up, you know,

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Speaker 1: He had? He had stories for days.

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Speaker 6: And I remember when I was coming up, you know,

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Speaker 3: Then when somebody else come along, you let them just

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Speaker 1: And that was that was a good thing.

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Speaker 6: After after Brad graduated, you know, he was always talking

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Speaker 4: Like that's how Larry was.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's supposed to be paying.

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Speaker 3: I had the east Side mentality coming across the water, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: He kind of like son Larry Larry. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Might get you.

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Speaker 2: You don't got me any worries, but everything it's smooth

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Speaker 1: Bug Me and Taya.

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Speaker 3: Is connected with his daddy and godfather and just being

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Speaker 3: agent Jeff Wesler. Yeah, got a lot of funny stories.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Jeff Jeff ever told you this.

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Speaker 3: charity game in East Saint Louis and East Saint Louis

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Speaker 3: we had the charity game and we were just out late,

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Speaker 3: He panicked so crazy he called us like all that,

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Speaker 3: So what we want to know from y'all, what kind

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Speaker 4: As far as that.

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Speaker 5: Man, I mean, well, Jeff came at me like in

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Speaker 5: a different way, Like I came to this house in Miami.

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Speaker 4: You're like, no, I want it now. I want it now.

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Speaker 5: So you know, in the beginning, just my discipline, like

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Speaker 5: Know, and that in itself was like I was in

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Speaker 5: like they didn't coming in late, you know, just doing

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Speaker 5: things as a nineteen year old draft pick, like going

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Speaker 4: On doing stuff I just wasn't in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I went through to see the site.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's experience experienced Miami, you know.

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Speaker 6: So, I mean, I only been with Jeff for a

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Speaker 6: no crazy stories with Jeff.

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Speaker 1: We get along cool. Him and my mom.

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Speaker 6: They get into it a lot, though she don't let

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Speaker 1: But you know, Jeff helped me out a lot.

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Speaker 2: And Jeff pretty he pretty pretty early in like you

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Speaker 2: do you realize that you was really out here? Mainly

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Speaker 2: because what you did last year you took advantage of

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we all know you took major advantage

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Speaker 2: being said, like okay, you still had Ben Simmons was

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Speaker 1: You want way more stuff than either one of them.

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Speaker 2: National Local, Like I watched, like he said, we roofed

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Speaker 1: This this Jeff Wex for twenty four seven. This all family.

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Speaker 2: So we I'm watching your games, you know, on no package.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching, So I see you with.

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Speaker 1: Donuts in your hands. How to trans I said, wait

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Speaker 2: Think, I said, yeah, I say, he having a good work.

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Speaker 2: I say, man, no, love, I know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: So like, do you realize you out.

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Speaker 2: There on some boys that you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: we had per se more accolades or whatever, like you

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Speaker 2: got somebody that's really, you know what I'm saying, getting

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't really think about it since I'm

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Speaker 6: in the moment, But that was one of the things

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Speaker 6: I talked about. That's one of the reasons I signed

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Speaker 6: a situation where you know, all the other agents got

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Speaker 6: Kyle that was.

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Speaker 6: So I figured, you know, I could have more of

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Speaker 6: You know, I told him once I got to the league,

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Speaker 6: you know, I just want to get my face out there.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's been working hard for me, and you

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Speaker 6: know we've been working hard together and just being you

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Speaker 6: know with Kay. You know some of the things that

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Speaker 6: he doesn't want to do. You know, I get the

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Speaker 6: opportunity and I take the check. You know, absolutely he

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Speaker 6: appreciated all of that.

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Speaker 3: Commercials and movies and all sorts of stuff. Gave us

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Speaker 4: And I think that's still doing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the best thing. Like you said

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Speaker 2: You said how Jay approached all of us and from

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Speaker 2: day one he was he was honest about the whole process,

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Speaker 1: And it was absolutely people that were.

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Speaker 2: Taking advantage of in our draft that we knew they

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Speaker 1: And he was educating us as to why.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't going to take a percentage out of ours

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Speaker 2: and he was only gonna make money when he made

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Speaker 2: it was just like you hit the jackpot right out

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Speaker 2: the gate, Like you know what I'm saying. This is

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Speaker 2: eighteen years later and we still family and we don't

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Speaker 1: His biggest winner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think seeing that and being being able

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he always give you the tough and the honest conversations,

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Speaker 3: you know, so you can be the best person, put

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's you know, he

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Speaker 3: definitely bigger stup. That's why we definitely wanted to big

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Speaker 3: them up. And you know, let y'all talk about him

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Speaker 3: a little bit more to show like the love that

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Speaker 1: And y'all boys got a different type of bond too.

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Speaker 1: With y'all duke brotherhood. I'm opposed.

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Speaker 2: I would say that the proud deep Paul demon and

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Speaker 2: you know that's what we do. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: He said his uncle Rod the goat o g rid Strix.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's family.

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Speaker 1: So what made y'all commit the duke and go to duke?

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Speaker 4: You just did twenty four hours?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean both of them been well, y'all. I

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Speaker 4: But's of my life right right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my boy mcghetty is that he was in

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Speaker 1: So you know, y'all got up out of that quick.

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Speaker 6: I think when I was younger, probably like eighth ninth grade,

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Speaker 6: you know, I always looked at Duke like like it's Duke,

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 6: When I took my visit, I was sixteen, my junior year,

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Speaker 6: and just to see the relationship that coach k had

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Speaker 4: And I talked to some other players with.

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Speaker 6: Other schools and just the genuine love and cared that

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Speaker 6: And after I took my visit, I wanted to commit

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Speaker 6: but uh, Pops, he was like, Yo, we gotta take

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Speaker 1: I wish I went back. That's how much fun I had.

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Speaker 5: I was the same same like it was like my

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Speaker 1: I started playing his better Harrington.

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Speaker 4: Fact.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's family up there, Kevin Boyle, even though he's

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Speaker 4: Just what they gave me there.

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Speaker 1: That's right here.

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Speaker 5: I went from m K scoring two thousand points in

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Speaker 5: Then once Coach K came around, I was like, yo,

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Speaker 5: is bron Yo. He came to Nook. I remember he

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Speaker 4: My family's in the crowd, and I just imagined myself

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Speaker 5: You know, like I had three quarters yo, I gotta

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Speaker 5: I'm coming. Like I told my dad the same thing

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Speaker 5: and he was like, no, we got to take other visit.

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Speaker 5: And then I went to textaing them shout out to

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Speaker 4: He went to it bu and then my uncle I

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Speaker 1: I was there first.

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Speaker 4: The first thing was the markets.

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Speaker 5: The fresh man he blood like, those guys were there like.

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Speaker 4: Almost like when cancers almost got him. Had them all

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Speaker 1: Fog Field House and the wrong the whole this was.

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Speaker 2: On late night with coach Daddy and he hit you

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Speaker 2: were still we used to this little thing how coaches

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Speaker 1: That's what turn around. He's like.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I was joint, like, oh man, I'm

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Speaker 2: like we're not committing on no visits. We're gonna get back,

443
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 2: clear head and think things out. And I was if

444
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 2: it was up to that, I would have been committed

445
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 2: to Ku. I don't know what would have happened, but

446
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: I would have did it on the spot.

447
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 3: Up in that that man Night that man, night Man.

448
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 3: That's got me committed. I met jay Z my midnight.

449
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 4: Man, the same John Midnight Man.

450
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 3: It's my first time really in New York to kind

451
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: of chill. And and Omar was with me Odmar cooking.

452
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 3: He wanted to go with Eric Barkley to a so

453
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 3: called club. I'm like, no, I'm going with jay Z.

454
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 3: He invited us. I kicked it with jay Z all night.

455
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 3: When I got back, I went to Kentucky and all that.

456
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 3: I just couldn't stop thinking about that man.

457
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 4: That environment. It was like the Rucker or something.

458
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, It was real deep

459
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: and I committed to Saint John's Like right away, what

460
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 3: is something that coach Kayden done in the locker room

461
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: or gave you something like, oh, okay, that's what he

462
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 3: do like like like like when he got on y'all

463
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 3: for not playing hard or you know, it ain't the

464
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: same coach K that walked in your door trying to

465
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: get you to commit. It's the coach K that wanted

466
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: to win the championship. Like, what are some of the

467
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: stories you can tell us about.

468
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 4: That He's gonna have moreleven games? Played eleven games. So

469
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 4: I had coach for the first eight and I was dogging.

470
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: I was like, coach was.

471
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 5: He pulled me aside after I think Game three or

472
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 5: something like that in the season he said, look, go

473
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 5: for it, like lead our team.

474
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 4: And they had just.

475
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 5: Come off a national championship the year before, playing against

476
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 5: Gordon here, who was on Butler and coach Stevens.

477
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 4: So how crazy, how ironic?

478
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: Right?

479
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 4: So, but like coach was just hell of chill that year.

480
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 5: He was like, We're just gonna get through the regular season.

481
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 5: When I went down, it was like I had to

482
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 5: take a step back. I had to focus on rehab

483
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 5: and take care of my body. That's when it really

484
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 5: hit me that basketball was like every like I had

485
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 5: never been hurt before, Like you know what I mean,

486
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 5: I was like sidelined a toe injury. I didn't know

487
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 5: what it was like the dumb ship I was doing.

488
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 5: Like I thought about it like after I got hurt

489
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 5: from Jersey. I got hurt in Jersey at Continental Airlines Arena.

490
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 5: That was a big time home game. I was home Jersey,

491
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 5: everybody there, and I get hurt in front of my family.

492
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 5: I go back to Durham. Instead of going to my

493
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 5: room and rest of my foot I go out. I

494
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 5: go out like this is just me and my estate.

495
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 5: I go out and I'm in a walking boot and

496
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 5: I'm in.

497
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: The turning, turning doing with my life, taking basketball it

498
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: do this my life.

499
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: So you know, and that's when it got taken away.

500
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 5: And then rehab just I focused on that so underwater treadmill,

501
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 5: just really getting my body right to just playing the

502
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 5: instead of a tournament, give us a chance to win

503
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 5: the national championship.

504
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 4: I appreciate the coach.

505
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 5: That much more after he let me come back because

506
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 5: Nolan had to go and Kyle had it going. I'm

507
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 5: just his eighteen year old kid. I'm only here for

508
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 5: a year. He knows I'm you know, he knows I'm out.

509
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 5: Like I was projected to be number one or number two.

510
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 5: I didn't have to come back, and I'm like, I

511
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 5: want to come back for the team, and coach gave

512
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 5: me that chance, Like I'm still rolling with you, like

513
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 5: I haven't played in three.

514
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 4: And a half months. So that's what it was.

515
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 7: Like.

516
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: I was like his little me and coach always joking,

517
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 5: but I'm like the one that got away from Like

518
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 5: he could just never coach me except for the USA.

519
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 5: That's how we made it up winning the gold medals.

520
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 5: Like I was like the one that, Yeah.

521
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 6: He used to always get on me for not being selfish,

522
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 6: like even if I would make the right play and

523
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 6: we scored. I mean, we played pitt at home and

524
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 6: we won, but I only took like I think we

525
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 6: won BYuT like fifteen or twenty. But I only took

526
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 6: like six shots. So the next day I practice. I'm like,

527
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 6: practice gonna be cool. We won yesterday, so we're going

528
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 6: to film, and for forty five minutes, the whole film

529
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 6: was about me, like the shot I come in a film,

530
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 6: like we're good, like practice gonna be light.

531
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: Were going out later. No, the whole film was about me.

532
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 6: Every time I caught the ball and I didn't shoot it,

533
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 6: and like if I passed it up, he was just

534
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 6: on my head, like the whole forty five minutes, and

535
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 6: I was hot with the best story I got.

536
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 4: We was playing a Virginia and I only had two points.

537
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 6: I had two points in the first half, and I

538
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 6: guess I kept passing enough shots came in.

539
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: He took it.

540
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 6: He took his suit jacket off, and he threw it

541
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 6: like right in my feet. He was yelling at me,

542
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 6: and I never forget this. He said, you're acting like

543
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 6: a soft ass. Saint Louis Kid.

544
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: Ooh ooh.

545
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: I was that was the Chicago he came out. He

546
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: had to keep in Chicago with right quick.

547
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 6: Yes, I had like twenty eight points in the second half,

548
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 6: but every like anywhere fin anywhere I go, I go

549
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 6: out of town, I go to college, like I always

550
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 6: have my Saint Louis hat like everywhere. I let it

551
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 6: be know like I'm from Saint Louis, So don't you

552
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 6: can't call me soft and you can't disrespect wrong from

553
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 6: And he knew the butzers to push because the whole

554
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 6: second half I was hot. I didn't smile one time.

555
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 6: I had twenty eight in the second half.

556
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Wanted the light skin in this in your city,

557
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: in my city, I was sick. Two you don't crust.

558
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: What about the new generation?

559
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: This new Duke team is just like something like none other.

560
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: The the recognition they getting, the tension they're getting. This

561
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: You've never really seen a duke team like this.

562
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: That after that first game and they Bob Kentucky got

563
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: loud in here and they was talking they could beat

564
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 2: the NBA team, like slow down, slow down, like they

565
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: they nice, But no, you're not beating the NBA team.

566
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 5: I think, well all in general, just terms of the

567
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: youthful generation, like they have a long way to go,

568
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: like it quick success is not I g likes and

569
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 5: just telling you that you're that good, like it's there

570
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: are people that come before you that have been doing

571
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 5: things that have been unbelievable, and there would be people

572
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 5: after you. So like enjoy that moment while you're doing

573
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 5: great things and just continue to get better. Like So

574
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 5: that's how I feel about the young players in terms

575
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 5: of the success that they get is like instant.

576
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: It's instant, So you have a long.

577
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: Way to go, Like we're trust me as pros and

578
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 5: they and they'll understand this, and not just the Duke team,

579
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 5: but just young guys in general, Like we're waiting for you.

580
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 5: Like I'm satudying these high school kids. Like I told

581
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: JTJT things, I'm great. I've been watching JT since he

582
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 5: was a sophomore in high school. I've been watching his

583
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 5: too many out I knew he was going to be

584
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 5: a pro. I'm like, justic k the's too many things.

585
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 5: I watched him too. I gotta learn, like I gotta

586
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 5: keep my game sharp, Like what's the next thing that

587
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 5: they're doing to be better?

588
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: So that that's the first part.

589
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 5: But I also think that they're just like the natural

590
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 5: talents are just coming easier to them too, like dunking

591
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 5: and like we used to like really glorify like people

592
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 5: that were athletic and doing great things.

593
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 4: They were just like beast to people.

594
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 5: And now things are just coming so easy to young guys,

595
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 5: like jumping out of gym.

596
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: I think a part of that, though, is what they

597
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: looking at.

598
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: You know, what we grew up looking at and what

599
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: y'all grew up looking at is way different.

600
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: That's you who.

601
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: Like skill wise, like y'all are dwarfing what we was

602
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: being able. I'm talking about like fresh out, coming out,

603
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: y'all handle package.

604
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: Everything is like ten times better.

605
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: Like you think about it, like we was watching Tim

606
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: Hardaway he at the bot.

607
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 4: That that was a lot of.

608
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: That was hot dog like you hot dog like just

609
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: like I was doing the reverse was like that was

610
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: the illness, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, now

611
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: y'all have the your road, and it came like it's

612
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: like now you got the you know, evolution of the

613
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: step back and how everybody's doing that and the creating

614
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: a space and then.

615
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: The rules changing getting easier.

616
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: So it's like we and then like you said, you

617
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: could Dillard up on YouTube, like my kid could go

618
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: turn on YouTube and just look at this move and

619
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: do it over and over like we had no access

620
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: they could put up on their phone, computer or tabling anything.

621
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: So now it's like they coming.

622
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: Through the door with everything trying. Sometimes that's the thing.

623
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: It's not disciplined, not home. Then it's not focused, it's not.

624
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: I tell you. I tell you he was one talented fucker.

625
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 4: I tell you.

626
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 2: But that's real because when he got here, I was

627
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: I told you, like just real talk.

628
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: I called Jay.

629
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: When I say yo, Jay, I say, young boy special

630
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: though he was like, no, he's really good, I said,

631
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: I say not, he here doing some stuff right now,

632
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: Like like wait a minute, I won't expected this much

633
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: this quick.

634
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: Like I knew. I knew you could score.

635
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: I knew you could score when I saw you the Duke,

636
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: I was like he had, you know, the mid range

637
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 2: that people don't really have, Like he was able to

638
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: you know, post people up, and I knew he could score.

639
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: But I was just like, I ain't think he was

640
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: just gonna come.

641
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: Through it, you know, I like, you know, everybody from

642
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: the Loop do that thing.

643
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

644
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: I just had to put that out there, tell you,

645
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: I just.

646
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: Had to put that out there. I knew king you

647
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, come from the loop. You know,

648
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 3: just just let y'all know when I came up, I

649
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: got the opportunity to play at Mike Camp and play

650
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: against Jordan and other college players.

651
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: When I was fourteen years old.

652
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: Fifteen years old, I was playing in the program, the

653
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: Bonner League and got a chance to play against Anthony

654
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Bonner and Larry Hughes and get.

655
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: Them type of experiences.

656
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: What was them key moments when you was coming up young,

657
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: and it was an experience that like, oh, I've seen

658
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: a different level.

659
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: It made me level up for me, you.

660
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 6: Know, like you said, playing in the Bonner League, you know,

661
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 6: in the summertime, every weekend. You know, I remember that

662
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 6: from as early as I remember, you know, walking and

663
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 6: just being with my dad, and I remember we used

664
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 6: to pull up to the gym and you had that

665
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 6: all black phantom sitting outside and I used to call

666
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 6: my mom like my.

667
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: Black d got a fantom that I'm gonna give one

668
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: aspiring the.

669
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: Bonn League was in the hood and he had to

670
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: sitting outside like trophy.

671
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: You know.

672
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 6: I was only eight, nine, ten years old, but you

673
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 6: know that's all I wanted to do was just just

674
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 6: go to the gym, shoot on the side. Who and

675
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 6: when y'all start playing, you know, make sure I was

676
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 6: watching because in my part, he would always make me

677
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 6: sit down when the game started. I remember that I

678
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 6: had to watch and he would ask me. He would

679
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 6: always ask me on the way home, like what you

680
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 6: see how you how you see Darius score?

681
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: You know how many drugs did he take? And at

682
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: a young age, he made.

683
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 6: Me realize, like, you know, how to really just think

684
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 6: the game instead of just trying to go out there.

685
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: And do all the flashes checking.

686
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like cheating on the test you got. You

687
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: gotta make sure you studying them.

688
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: In them experiences. So yeah, they started with me fourth grade.

689
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 5: I mean, my dad was taking me to New York

690
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 5: to trying to think about the recreation center. It was

691
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: in the Bronx and that's when my dad grew up,

692
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 5: so he used to take me to every Saturday. And

693
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: then I just remember I was probably like five or

694
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 5: six and we were in the lab line. I'm like

695
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: thinking about this too, just imagining it. Everybody's going up

696
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: with their right hands and my dad is like waiting

697
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: at half court, and then everybody starts going on their

698
00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 5: left hands.

699
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: And you know, you five and.

700
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: Six, most kids are still shooting on the left side

701
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: with their right hand, and I was the only player

702
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: in the line that was going up and like trying

703
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 5: to my dad.

704
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: Was like, not work on it. He was like, not

705
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: work on it. You need to have this, you need

706
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: to have this, and he was like nah.

707
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: State.

708
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: So when I used to go home, that's how my

709
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 5: dad trained me, like turn on the car lights, put

710
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: the cones out, built the hoop out there behind between

711
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: behind crossover, and he used to like get mad at

712
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: me when I didn't want to do moves his way.

713
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 5: Like that's when I knew. I was like, I'm gonna

714
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a rebel. I'm gonna be a rebel

715
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 5: for the.

716
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: Rest of all.

717
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like he was like, yo, you

718
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: gotta do it this way, and like you gotta get

719
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: your power from your back. Then I'm like, Dad, but

720
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: I could do it this way, and I'm quicker, like yeah.

721
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 5: So and then I started kind of figuring out like

722
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 5: all right, I gotta start working on my own. So

723
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 5: I just used my backyard snow rain whatever, going to

724
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: the park, trying to be the best in West Engs

725
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 5: where I was from, then in Jersey on my county,

726
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 5: then around the county and then the state and then

727
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 5: trying to be the best in the country. But that

728
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 5: was always telling me, like I had to beat my

729
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: dad first. I didn't beat until I was sixteen, so

730
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: that shit really bothered me, Like I had to wait

731
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 5: sixteen years to beat that dude, Like sixteen years trying

732
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 5: to be the master at work. Like and my dad

733
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: played at bu did his thing, but he was just

734
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: he shot from behind his head. He did like crazy,

735
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 5: he did some crazy team at the free throw line.

736
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: And then he used to tell me about my uncle Rod,

737
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 5: but he didn't really like explain to me how good

738
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 5: my uncle Rod was, Like he was.

739
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: A bad dude, like bad so you know.

740
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: And then it was like I wuld watch him play

741
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 5: pickup and I would sit on my ball and I

742
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 5: was watch him, just watch watch and I go in

743
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: the park.

744
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: It I going to park. I'd be like, damn, my dad.

745
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: My dad used to hit like these crazy off.

746
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: Glass shots, and that's what I love most, Like he

747
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 5: was like, why don't you use the glass glass? And

748
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: that's when in the games, when I started taking those

749
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 5: crazy shots.

750
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: I learned that from my dad. Like use the glass,

751
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: Like that's the best.

752
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Thing about you.

753
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: Crazy shots.

754
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: I say, you float that thing from the free throw line.

755
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: That's free throw line, So that's one.

756
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: That's where you're just walking around around the game.

757
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I was trying up.

758
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: Around that looked good.

759
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Lookten.

760
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: That's what I told Like when I told Jay the

761
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: same thing, Like I said, I ain't think you was

762
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: gonna be that nice? Right you rememberhen we first met

763
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: you at Jay house. He's like, you say, sizing me up?

764
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: He signed something.

765
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, like, I know, I don't look like no man, like.

766
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: He said, we ain't get it, but a simple say

767
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: you played like ten eleven games and couse.

768
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like.

769
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: This little dude fraid he literally I'm like, man, I'm.

770
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know.

771
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: I asked you. I I don't know.

772
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: I gotta see just like you tell your just.

773
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: Like that right here, you got the little ass wild

774
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: on your.

775
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'm all right, I got it whatever, right

776
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: because you remember you and Red on my Homeboy playing

777
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: two K.

778
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: You wrong, we in that playing two K and all that.

779
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: So I'm like, cause I was still in I was

780
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: this was my last that was the year I played

781
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Miami the year he came.

782
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: So we came to check them out. So I'm like,

783
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: all right, cool man, buddy, get the book.

784
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, so I tell you, you know

785
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: the real year. He damn like all right, tell him

786
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: all right, he said, okay, okay. But then it's like

787
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: to me, in my opinion, like when the lights is

788
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: they brightest and they shine, they by you show up

789
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: your biggest Like this is what I mean by that,

790
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: Like you went to the rookie game, got Rookie Game, MVP,

791
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: you won a three point contests, you went on the MVEW.

792
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you went in the finals and you hit

793
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: the big shot to win it.

794
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like in those moments when

795
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: you got your chance when you serve, notice the USA

796
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: camp when all the stars was down, you going through

797
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: that thing like Curly Mill and showing up like look

798
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm here, Like I'm telling you, I'm like Jay, when

799
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: you wan three point contest, I say, Jay, I say,

800
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: wait a minute, young boy got a little switch, like

801
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: when the lights show up, like he he got he

802
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: turned special, like like some of the greatest shooters they

803
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: ain't never won a three point contexts and you don't

804
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 2: show no type of like them shots like Ron said,

805
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: here gave him the ball and everybody stood on this

806
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: side of the court and what he did he the

807
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: lift with like like that's special. Like so what you

808
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: feel like you got you you got that from just

809
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: to like when it's when it's the most on the line,

810
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: when it's when it's when it's goal time, like I'm

811
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: in my best moment, I'm cool, calm and collected, collect

812
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: that's what I know. I want a three point contest

813
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: and i'm and I lost too, so I know. And

814
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's like you gotta find that. You gotta

815
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 2: find that zone where you speeding up but you still

816
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: in your cheer because you don't you gotta get him off,

817
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: but you gotta be you gotta have you, and it's

818
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: like it's hard to do.

819
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: It's like it's not an easy thing. You think.

820
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: It's like, nah, it's not easy. Like when you sit

821
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 2: on that little stump and it's like it's your turn.

822
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: Ship just got real.

823
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, get when it gets like that, that's

824
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 5: when it's like that's when it gets fun. Like that's

825
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 5: when the time of the game where it gets so

826
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: fun from me because the unexpected can happen.

827
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: And what you've been working on.

828
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 5: I feel like it's a chance to really show like, Okay,

829
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: you thought I was about to do this, you've been

830
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 5: watching this, but shit, I'm.

831
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: I already know what I'm doing out here.

832
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 5: And then you have a flow and then playing against

833
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 5: the best, it's nothing like it. Like I love being

834
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 5: in that competitive environment going against the.

835
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 4: Best of the best.

836
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: Everybody's up to play, like, you know how in the

837
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 5: regular season it could get it could get repetitive, like

838
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and you like, yeah, where's

839
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 5: the competition, like, and then you know it's maybe a

840
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 5: TV game and it's two you want to like, you

841
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: want to have fun doing it like and I think

842
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 5: the biggest thing, well I try to share with him

843
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 5: is that it's a marathon. But in the meantime, you

844
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 5: could do things to help yourself prepare for what the

845
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 5: moments look like down the line, So that eight point

846
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 5: stretch that you're trying to get, like, Okay, get a

847
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: quick layup or get a three, get to the free

848
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: throw line. Now you got a quick seven. You really

849
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: trying to average twenty five for the season. All right,

850
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: this is how you get your twenty five like map

851
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 5: out in four quarters, Like all r, I'm gonna be

852
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 5: aggressive for the next three minutes. It doesn't mean don't pass.

853
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 5: It just means like do what you do. So it's

854
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 5: like now it's like you pinpoint manage the game. And

855
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: then in the bigger games, I'm like, all right, I

856
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 5: got to manage it even more. Now I need my teammates.

857
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 5: But how do I get my teammates to raise their level?

858
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: I raised my level, like let's go for the guts

859
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: and glory.

860
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 5: You already know those type Knights when it's like kayin'

861
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 5: fucking around, like let's go, let's do it bro like

862
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: let's rock because we're gonna see them again. I came

863
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 5: in a time where the point guard position was being revolutionized,

864
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 5: so like.

865
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: Now it was coming like the ball.

866
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 5: It was twenty eleven, like John was the year before

867
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 5: me that got drafted.

868
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: Dame came one year after me.

869
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: Steph was like really starting to get healthy and hit

870
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: his stride, and Steve Nash was still in the league.

871
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: But that idea of that point guard was like he

872
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: has to score more. Like Steve Nash was getting you

873
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 5: know his fourteen and thirteen and he was cool like

874
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 5: fifteen and fifteen like really just diamond. And then it

875
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 5: was like Steph was getting forty and eight now and

876
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 5: he's pulling these unbelievable threes. And then John is speed

877
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 5: demon up and down the floor getting up them possessions.

878
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: Like so like me coming out, I'm like, what's gonna

879
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 5: be my niche Like where I see John? Okay, they're

880
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: going under his screens. Okay, so they're going to enter

881
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 5: me enter.

882
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: The most unbelievable layup package in the history of the game.

883
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: He boy, these big boys without dunking on on everybody.

884
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 2: I'm listen. I told you, I say, yo, this man

885
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: layout package. I don't know if it's because of Uncle

886
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: Rod or what's going on, but this man lay up packages.

887
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: You're talking about. Smitty's under the rim.

888
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: Boy used to spend it off the corner of the back.

889
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: Boy make it go in all time.

890
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: I used to concentrate up. He used to do that.

891
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: I used to hate that. I couldn't do that.

892
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: I used to do that.

893
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: I was sure you just standing still like in practice

894
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: under the rim. I ain't never did that in the

895
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: game as a layup when he said I used to

896
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: do that. I used to be like, were staying there,

897
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: bs and around. I could twil it.

898
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could til it.

899
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: Though half the layups did this boy he's going boy,

900
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh.

901
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 4: Man, I can't.

902
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: I didn't have that length like like John. So I

903
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 5: was like, and I had been watching John too, because

904
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 5: I was like, I was in love with his athleticism,

905
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: like he's just just left hand like and I was.

906
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: I used to donk with my left hand.

907
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: I used like I wanted to be in my backyard

908
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 5: trying to dunk and like be athletic catching oops. And

909
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, nah, I started going there where Andrew buying

910
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 5: him and Fregak Andrew Boget motherfucker's body and me, I'm

911
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 5: falling on the floor. No let me let me all right.

912
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 5: So now I's like, all right, I'm gonna use my athleticism.

913
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: Now I gotta get craftier. I got beat guys to

914
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 5: the rim if I body him, I gotta see angles

915
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 5: the basketball and the leather of the basketball is different

916
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: than what I played with in college. So like the

917
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 5: Nike basketballs used to spend like they used to really

918
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: really spind on the glass like the leather, and then

919
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: when I got to the league, the leather is like,

920
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 5: you know how when it only time it gets like

921
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: you could feel it is when it's wet like so he's.

922
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: Saying to me, everybody, he's saying, you know how, I

923
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: don't know how. This is a whole different level of

924
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: helling the ball and like being one with the ball.

925
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: He talking about the leathers and I do get as

926
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: a shooter.

927
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, the college balls was that, but like when you

928
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: start talking, I ain't handle the ball like that.

929
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm I'm go ahead, I'm being educated, right,

930
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: go ahead.

931
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: No, I just had to adjust.

932
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: So just adjusting to like the athleticism that I was lacking,

933
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 5: but making up for it and being craft.

934
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 6: Here for me, as y'all probably knows, just when you

935
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 6: when you first get to the league, it's like you

936
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: trying to prove a point and prove that everybody that

937
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: you know you belong and not only belonged, but that

938
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 6: you know you're gonna be one of the best players.

939
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 6: And you know, that's the mindset I had from the

940
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 6: first game, and especially when the playoffs come, because you know,

941
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 6: in the playoffs that's when not just basketball fans, but

942
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 6: everybody watched basketball.

943
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: So that's the biggest.

944
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 6: Stage, and you know, I got to take advantage of

945
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 6: the opportunity. So I wanted to prove that, like you know,

946
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 6: the playoffs is you know, the biggest stage, and then

947
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 6: I could perform on the highest level. You know, as

948
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: a young player, that's really big. You know, he trying

949
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 6: to make a point and you know, let it be

950
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 6: known that you deserve to be, you know, in the league.

951
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: For a young guy coming in, you got like a

952
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: unique game. It's not a lot of not of young guys.

953
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: They either shoot the three or just get to the

954
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: hole and try and done. Like for you, you got

955
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: a serious mid range game, so you can mid range

956
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: post up. You got the height, the link to shoot

957
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: over with people. You great at you know what I'm saying,

958
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: creating separation with different moves, getting your step back off

959
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: and doing being able to do different things.

960
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: Like he played like an og right now.

961
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: He got like an old school type game just from

962
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: the standpoint, and he not out there three point thirsty

963
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: or he was really.

964
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: Using a mid run game.

965
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: And that's something that you know these days, that's not

966
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: a big part of the NBA as a young boy.

967
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: How did you get that going that soon?

968
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 6: You know, my dad he like six six, but he

969
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 6: was a he was a big man, so strong.

970
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, trust me, I played against him in college. Trust me,

971
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: the conference same Louis no legs, no legs that he

972
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: skipped legs, like justin, I'm calling you out now, I'll

973
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: look like a stream coach my whole body.

974
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 7: You know, when when I was younger, because my mom's tall,

975
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 7: so you know, he knew I was gonna be tall,

976
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 7: and he didn't want, you know, somebody to just label

977
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 7: me as a big man.

978
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: So he wanted me to play the perimeter.

979
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 6: But you know, when you're young, everybody just wanted to

980
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 6: shoot threes and do floaters, try to smack the glass

981
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 6: soil you can dunk.

982
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: So with with with me?

983
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 6: You know, he wanted me to try to be different,

984
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 6: you know, try to be able to score from everywhere.

985
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 6: So we were going to gym and you know we

986
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 6: would just jab step in the middle of the of

987
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: the floor and jab step on a wing, one trible

988
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 6: to the right, one trible to the left. To like

989
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: that was just like all I knew. And then I

990
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: start remember ad YouTube and Kobe was my favorite player.

991
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 6: And I remember one day he came in the gym

992
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 6: and I just start doing like turn around fade away.

993
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 6: She like, what the hell are you doing? But I

994
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 6: was like, yo, that that's my favorite player. I would

995
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 6: practice it on my own until it came a part

996
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 6: of my game.

997
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 4: You know, my dad was the first one. You know,

998
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: he just tried to.

999
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 6: Teach me everything that you know, nobody really taught him,

1000
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 6: because you know, he wanted me to try to reach

1001
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 6: one goal.

1002
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: So you speaking of Kobe, like, we wanted to ask

1003
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: out the things that you got from Kobe since both

1004
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 3: of y'all had a chance to work well with them

1005
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: and pick his brain and get all the jewels that

1006
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: he could have.

1007
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 4: Dropped off on y'all to.

1008
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: What's so.

1009
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 3: I was that experience and to be like, shit, Kobe

1010
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: my homeboy, Like I got his number, I can call and.

1011
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Did he tell you?

1012
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: I know that's a real and you say you're welcome,

1013
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: So tell us about that experience.

1014
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 6: That was unreal moment for me, just you know, being

1015
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 6: so young and first year in the league. You know,

1016
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 6: Kobe has always been my favorite player since you know,

1017
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 6: I can't remember. So I was like two or three

1018
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 6: years old, and I remember in the playoffs he was

1019
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: doing that detailed thing, and I remember I got out

1020
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 6: the practice, I looked at my phone and.

1021
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: I saw he tweeting me, and I like dropped my phone. Yo.

1022
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 6: So I remember I watching it at least fifty times,

1023
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 6: and then you know, he got my number. He was

1024
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 6: texting me throughout the playoffs and he was saying, you

1025
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 6: know you're ever in l A. You know you want

1026
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 6: to work out, you know, just let me know. As

1027
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 6: soon as I got to l A, I texted him,

1028
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 6: I'm here, you know, whenever you got time, you know,

1029
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 6: let me know.

1030
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Like how nervous was you when you was doing to

1031
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: text me. I hope he's gonna text me back. I

1032
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: hope he really meant it right, Like trust me. I

1033
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: read about him first, just went on.

1034
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 6: And the crazy thing is he took two days and

1035
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: text me back.

1036
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: You're looking at it every hour, say delivery.

1037
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I know, say delivered, it went it went to something,

1038
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: it went to the number. He again, make sure it.

1039
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: I didn't want to text him again.

1040
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: That was part of the mama man mentality, has to

1041
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: make sure you was ready.

1042
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 4: He ain't texted me for two days. So he texted me.

1043
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 4: I texted right back immediately.

1044
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: It was like reply, wait, you know.

1045
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 2: Here right here, right.

1046
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: Right around the corner.

1047
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: What happens, though, it happens.

1048
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 6: You know. We got a chance to work out, and

1049
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 6: I met with him like two or three times, but

1050
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 6: we worked out once and uh, you know, uh it

1051
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 6: was it was great, you know, just the little things

1052
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 6: that you know, he said that he paid attention to

1053
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 6: watch my game and the things that you know, he

1054
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 6: did when he was.

1055
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: Working on the summer.

1056
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 6: He was telling me like one summer he was like

1057
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 6: I just worked on my reverse pivot for three months

1058
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 6: and he was like that's when I averaged like thirty seven.

1059
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Hey, but let me just say, like I had to,

1060
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: I had to really see that movie up close and personal.

1061
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: That is the Mamba, Like we got drafted in the

1062
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: midst of the first three pole.

1063
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: That was the one dude. Like he'll do anything, y'all.

1064
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: Watch him shoot left hand threes, like left hand anything,

1065
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: just whatever, Like he'll do anything on the court, like

1066
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: for real though, like you know, like the way I played,

1067
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I'm a I'm Chicago, I'm

1068
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: a g I'm a beast.

1069
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: Try him he's smart enough to know, Okay, you can't

1070
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: fight me out here, You're not gonna be there. And like,

1071
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: you know how people all right, yeah, I'm trying. I'm

1072
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: ana forty.

1073
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm he really gonna fifty, He really gonna forty, he

1074
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: really gonna sixty, he really gonna eighty one.

1075
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you ain't seen nothing.

1076
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 2: Like this, boy, I'm telling you, Like, that's why I say,

1077
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: like in the conversation a lot of people, I feel

1078
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: like he just get left out of this hole. How

1079
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: they say Lebron and mj Like, like, in my humble opinion,

1080
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: it is mj Z and him, my peers, the people

1081
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: that I know, when we sitting and we talk.

1082
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: It's a complete difference.

1083
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: It's a complete different Are you talking about those duds

1084
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 2: or just yeah, when.

1085
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: You talking about COVID and Lebron, it's a different shackle.

1086
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: It seemed like he had something to prove, and that's

1087
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: when he was getting them forty games in the row,

1088
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: the multiple forty games from sixty games and mane forties

1089
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: and fifties on the days he had to fly in

1090
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: on game they coming from trialing.

1091
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. She went on a turf from like

1092
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: that last year on U we traveled. None of us.

1093
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't do that for a reason.

1094
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: SMN was coming in whatever you want to say, Jed

1095
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: Lag or what have you, like, we'll complain if we

1096
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: get in, Like you know what I'm saying.

1097
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: Like, man, we the flight got here. We got in

1098
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: in like three.

1099
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: In the morning, and they report that or something like

1100
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 2: my man was getting hours before the game fresh from

1101
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: a crazy stressful scenario and body and whoever in front

1102
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: of him.

1103
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: The numbers y'all put up in the finals from forty

1104
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: point games you and Lebron put up together. I haven't

1105
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: seen that since Kobe and shot like two players just

1106
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: so dominant it that you can't stop.

1107
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 4: It's like I'm giving it to Kobe, I'm giving it

1108
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: to Shack. That's how how dominant they was.

1109
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: Like if Shaq had thirty nine, Kobe had thirty six,

1110
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: you know, it was like And to see y'all when

1111
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: y'all was doing that, it was like, man, I ain't

1112
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 3: seen that in a minute, Like that's you know, when

1113
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: they was doing that, it was two thousand to two

1114
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: thousand and three. So for y'all to do it then

1115
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: that was the first time I seen players to be

1116
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: on the team and it was just them two so

1117
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: dominant that man, y'all putting up eighty some points together.

1118
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 5: And that's why, that's why I went to him for advice,

1119
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 5: being part of a great duo, a great team. And

1120
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 5: you he Ron's at a point in his career and

1121
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 5: I'm a point in my career. He has a vision

1122
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 5: for what he wants it to look like for the

1123
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 5: rest of the way he's playing, and then I have

1124
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: a vision of what I wanted to look like over

1125
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: the course of this, you know what I mean. Our

1126
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 5: windows are different right now. Like, he's still an incredible player,

1127
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 5: but I'm like, yo, I want to I'm right here

1128
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: with you, and I want the respect I want, you know,

1129
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: I want to earn it. I'm going out there to

1130
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: try to prove something just like you are. I want to,

1131
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 5: I want the accolades I want.

1132
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 4: I want to do all that. I want my own shoes.

1133
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want those same goals. And like, I see

1134
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 5: the same thing and what me and Jay talk about.

1135
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 5: Now we're six years apart, and I try to tell him,

1136
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 5: I'm like, look, I'm a liaison between all of this.

1137
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: I want you to be strive for greatness and I'm

1138
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: an help like I'm whatever you need me to do.

1139
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 5: I'll get out your way once you get to that point,

1140
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 5: like that's what you go ahead like today, Yeah you

1141
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 5: want it, go take it. And I tell Jay as well,

1142
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, me and you and this going for

1143
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: the gusts and glory when it's all on the line.

1144
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: I know I need you right next to me, so

1145
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 5: let's get this thing going. And I and I have

1146
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: different relationship with all my teammates, but specifically with him.

1147
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: How that's what I.

1148
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Love about it.

1149
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: That's why I love this host and there like it's family.

1150
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: And that's why I say, like we genuinely watch y'all

1151
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: all the time. We root for y'all the time, Like

1152
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Because it's like you said,

1153
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: like everybody love all they teammates and and all of

1154
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: that stuff. But like you said, like this it's a

1155
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: different scenario. You feel like this is like a little

1156
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: brother to you.

1157
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: Like I was a little brother.

1158
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't want a little big same thing with me

1159
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: and him, No, same.

1160
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: Thing like I was.

1161
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: I was the big brothers, but he was bigger than

1162
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: me or whatever, and he's still he went number three,

1163
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: I won eighteen, but it was still a big little

1164
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: brother dynamic.

1165
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: But it's like a lot of people from the outside

1166
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 3: looking there would have thought that I was probably superior,

1167
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: but when.

1168
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: We got to the league, they thought. People didn't even

1169
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: know I was in the NBA. Sometimes they thought it

1170
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: was his homeboy. They thought it was like, literally, he

1171
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: was first.

1172
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: I always treated him like my big brother because he was.

1173
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: He was always older than me, and I came up

1174
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: under him. So you know, the respect there is just like,

1175
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna never disrespect that.

1176
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1177
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: That's why I love for you to be a big

1178
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: brother for him, not only because you one of the

1179
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: best players in the league and you can show him

1180
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: what it is to be like that, because I feel

1181
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: like he's headed at the race, so you can show

1182
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: him how to handle itself with that, but just in general,

1183
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: you know how it is when you come in this league,

1184
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: you need that. You know, whether you'll realize that when

1185
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: you get way further down the league when you see

1186
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: different people in your class appeals that didn't have the

1187
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: same thing, because you don't realize it.

1188
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: Why you win it when you have it, and when.

1189
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: It's there, when it's right up in your face all

1190
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: the time, and it's there from day one, you think

1191
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: it's the norm. So it's something that you may take

1192
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: for granted or may not even be aware of how

1193
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: good you got it. Somebody y'all got the same agent

1194
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: y'all got, Jeff and the Man do on the same page.

1195
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: You all, it's a whole family of him that's been

1196
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: through everything six times over. They could tell you this.

1197
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: Then the third that could be, you know, sometimes it's

1198
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: gonna be something that you may don't want to hear.

1199
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes it may be something that you need to hear

1200
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: that you might don't need to hear from Jeff or Man.

1201
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: Then he's the perfect person to be able to deliver

1202
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: it to you because he is more of a peer.

1203
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: And it's not from this adult figure or you know,

1204
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: authority figure type situation where it's a it's a peer.

1205
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: Y'all could chill be chilling at the crib playing video

1206
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: games and he'd be like, yo, such and such and such,

1207
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: and it's something that you know, your best friend, your

1208
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: pop shall nobody can tell you because y'all in that

1209
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: practice facility, y'all, and everything that was the thing that

1210
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: me and him had. Nobody couldn't Like our best friend

1211
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: can't sit there and comment on this because you weren't there.

1212
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: You just gonna say something because you're my best friend.

1213
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: He can tell me from the stance, Well, I can

1214
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: tell him from the stance like, nah, I was there

1215
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: for the entire thing. You was wrong when you did this,

1216
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: You was right when you did that, But like I

1217
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: was there, I'm not just speaking and trying to side

1218
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: with you, Like that's what. He can keep it real

1219
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: and be honest with you and be authentic and help

1220
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: you in those ways.

1221
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 4: And Jeff can't see exactly.

1222
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Jeff can't see this, but he can be there and you.

1223
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: Know that it's a genuine, authentic and he's in your

1224
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: corner type deal and you don't have to question that.

1225
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because every team is not the same, you know.

1226
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: This leads to the other question, Like, what I want

1227
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: you all to touch on is like none of us

1228
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: from Saint Louis ever been in the type of organization

1229
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 3: or played in the organization like the Celtics. You're coming

1230
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: from Saint Louis and getting the opportunity to come right

1231
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: out the gates, souch, such a historic organization.

1232
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: Y'all, hat.

1233
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: Don't be like they always went to he got like

1234
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: nobody from Saint Louis.

1235
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: So I'm just.

1236
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: Saying, like you you know, because like you was in Cleveland,

1237
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: they was they was losing, and you know how to

1238
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: be different than you walk into an organization that, like

1239
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: every organization is not the Lakers, the Knicks, the Celtics,

1240
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, have this type of environment,

1241
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: but you know, going into.

1242
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: It, like what type of environment does the does the

1243
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: those three teams know?

1244
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 3: But they got they got a history of they got

1245
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: a different type of history and when you walk into

1246
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: big like these are these are teams that's been there forever.

1247
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 7: No.

1248
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 5: But he's saying, I think I give you saying I

1249
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 5: give what you're saying.

1250
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: Don't let him, don't let him take away question franchise

1251
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: like the Celtics.

1252
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: I say, just.

1253
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: Danny Ames and the history and what he ring and

1254
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: the expectations you have and y'all the expectations that Celtics.

1255
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: That they have for y'all.

1256
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do y'all what's the type of feeling did

1257
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: y'all get when you walked in the type of.

1258
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: Well he he was drafting. I tell him, like, how

1259
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: special that is draft.

1260
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 5: You got drafted by the Celtics like Danny Aings, three

1261
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 5: time champions president drafted he saw something in you, not

1262
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 5: just for two years three years, but like down the

1263
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 5: line of being a franchise player. He traded for me

1264
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 5: like I was in the midst of my career where

1265
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 5: it was like I had gone into Cleveland And I

1266
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 5: tell him this too of what it looks like on

1267
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 5: the other side of being a top draft pick and

1268
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: going in and the team had just lost twenty eight

1269
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 5: in the row the last season, so I didn't have

1270
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 5: the had Antoine James, Anthony Parker and saver Joab, but

1271
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 5: the veteran leadership of being around like somebody in my

1272
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 5: position that I could, you know, lookan it was like

1273
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 5: having my sessions where I had to battle, but you

1274
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 5: know I won that battle. Initially, once I first started

1275
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 5: on camp, I was like, I'm going at him, I'm

1276
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 5: taking his I need this, like I'm starting now, like

1277
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 5: but there's no disrespect.

1278
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: But that's what you got to do.

1279
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 5: With what I did deal with a lot of losing

1280
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 5: and that shit sucked, like I took a lot of

1281
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 5: the responsibility one.

1282
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: Seventeen out of eighty two in Cleveland.

1283
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: We got bet every year.

1284
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: We got better every year, seventeen out of eighty two

1285
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: in Cleveland.

1286
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 5: And I and I and I tell Jaden's too, like

1287
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 5: of what it looks like being on the other side

1288
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 5: of like this is not bad.

1289
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: Struggling to find chemistry and continuity.

1290
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 5: Heaven not bad being in where you're thinking about where

1291
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: you're going for All Star Break already because you're waiting

1292
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 5: for All Star Break to end, to get to the

1293
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 5: end of the season.

1294
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: He said, he said, trying to figure it out, like

1295
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: you know that, Like, Okay, we need to figure it out.

1296
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna be straight. Like what he's talking about

1297
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: is like there's no figuring anything out nothing. It's just like,

1298
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: let's take these ass whoopings and we're gonna go to

1299
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 2: All start. Then by April sixteen, my car is gonna

1300
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: be home, I'm gonna where I'm going, and flights is

1301
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: already like let's get this game up. Like you know

1302
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We we lived that being with the Clippers,

1303
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: like and no thron dout.

1304
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 4: Fellas here take that shot. We got to get to

1305
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 4: the next city.

1306
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: He'll in Chicago, and so fast we out here, Like

1307
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: I just think oft of the down that play man,

1308
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: the player going just up and down. We're going through

1309
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: all kinds of storms.

1310
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: Them is the other things out that I loved and

1311
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: that it was tied into this whole family thing.

1312
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: Like last year it was it was.

1313
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: Wag you got hurt or whatever, but like young boy

1314
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: got the repid, you got to step up. The boy

1315
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: was repping the shoes, breaking out all the new shoes

1316
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: from day one. You lucky to have like it ain't

1317
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: too many people like every shoe being killed.

1318
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

1319
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 5: I was talking about j T two in terms of

1320
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 5: wearing the shoes that year. That was like all love

1321
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 5: to that was. That was I was telling Ja that

1322
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 5: I was like to get them and you get to

1323
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: be like I'm the one featuring them.

1324
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm wearing the new hotness on all of the blows,

1325
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: everything on every social.

1326
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 4: Give him everything, to give him whatever, give Mary.

1327
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: Time out though, like the collabse like not like first

1328
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: of all, like I said, you already had like a

1329
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: six shoe the style like just from you know what

1330
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1331
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I want the pro Scott. I was director of play.

1332
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: Development with the Pistols, and I saw plaining like I

1333
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: got to see every team people Nike ding it all

1334
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: that from the first shoot, like how the collapse with

1335
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: like the whole general meal like that was sick. Like

1336
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: how you come with the cereal boxes, Jeff class every

1337
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: brad like that, Like that's j going.

1338
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 4: To everybody like just working, like, Hey, we're gonna we're

1339
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 4: gonna trying to get you in the Wadi box. What

1340
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: you like?

1341
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: How many Hoopers have been on the we thes Like no,

1342
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 5: Wenn Drew and you wait what Jeff Like, hold on, No,

1343
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 5: We're gonna do a kicks. We're gonna do it all.

1344
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 5: Now we're gonna get you in. We're gonna get you

1345
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 5: in the supermarket. Now we can get your face on

1346
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 5: their Coco. I was like, yo, Jeff, go ahead.

1347
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: Do you think Jeff? I was like I was Sometimes

1348
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 4: I would be like, come on, Jeff, let's let's go.

1349
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 4: I need you here, I need you there.

1350
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, all right, that is collapsed. We

1351
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: was big on shoes when we came out. We Gotta

1352
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: were fortunate to sign a deal with Jordan Brand and

1353
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: Lucky Man like we used to get lucky.

1354
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: This was lucky. Is lucky.

1355
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 5: Everybody that signs that Jordan Brand knows that they get

1356
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 5: freaking bruck Low.

1357
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: We was very luck.

1358
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 4: Low have so many shoes and Dan, we don't even

1359
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: know what to do with them.

1360
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: Bro, I couldn't believe it that I had Jordan's that

1361
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: I folks she was dying for back at home. Oh,

1362
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe that I was Sponsorbley. But we

1363
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: was getting them. Man, we used to get exclusive shoes

1364
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: and we used to go to the mall.

1365
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't no social media.

1366
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: We used to go to the mom so people can

1367
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: see him be like, yeah, you're gonna get them color

1368
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: now and.

1369
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: Stuff.

1370
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: Like employees everybody like what is going on?

1371
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 5: Like with your shoe collection, show out, show both all

1372
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 5: y'all doing athletes is show y'all showing up to appearances.

1373
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: Probably a pair of.

1374
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: Way better than so there's so many exclusive out that

1375
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: and so for like even with with your shoe collection,

1376
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 3: like I said, you roll with Kyrie stuff. But he

1377
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: was hopping at the bed. He ready for his shoe. Yeah,

1378
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: he ready for us for that, Like I like big bro,

1379
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: but I'm ready.

1380
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: For I'm perfect. Go ahead, Yeah, it's tom time. Get

1381
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 4: your colorways. Your emblem is how you getting. This is

1382
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 4: where you start, like, this is where I started from.

1383
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 6: It definitely helps being with him, just seeing all of the

1384
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 6: creative ideas that he has. Yeah, you know, looking at

1385
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 6: his shoes. You know, it definitely gives me, you know,

1386
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 6: some great.

1387
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: Ideas, Kyrie with you.

1388
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: Like I said, everything you do be exclusive. That's what

1389
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: I like about everything that you do, from the uncle drew,

1390
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: from the shoes, from everything with people talk about you,

1391
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: they don't give you the cred. I feel like you

1392
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: deserve not just on the court, but off the court

1393
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: of everything that you do exclusive. Explain some of your

1394
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: exclusive stuff. We're not giving too much, but you know,

1395
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: the bright ideas like cause you're the only shoe that

1396
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: come out with collapse in weedie boxes, like you don't

1397
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 3: see nobody.

1398
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 4: Your stuff is so set out different.

1399
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: From Jordan's, Lebron's pgs, Durant Steph Currgee. It's something exclusive

1400
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: about yours. What makes yours and the ideas that you

1401
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 3: come with be so exclusive and so just on point?

1402
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 5: Well, I think the most important thing I try to

1403
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 5: show is love. Like I try to show love to

1404
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 5: the youth, to the people that have come before me

1405
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 5: and the people that I'm in my generation with now,

1406
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 5: and then try to funnel a message through that.

1407
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 4: So like, if it's if I feel like it's.

1408
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 5: Time to really put an emphasis and show a love

1409
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 5: light on women, then I want to release a women's

1410
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 5: only shoe. If I want to show something like homage

1411
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 5: to what I'm learning in terms of what I'm reading,

1412
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 5: then I'll have Nike and I'll tell them something like that.

1413
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: Or if it's something I want from my.

1414
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 5: Family and friends to pay how much to where I

1415
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 5: come from or what I've done, then I do that.

1416
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 5: But it was like I don't want to keep releasing

1417
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 5: stuff about my accomplishments and things that I would like

1418
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 5: to release things that come from me, from what I

1419
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 5: mean as a person, and then how much people mean

1420
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: to me and how much I watch and appreciate people

1421
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 5: and who they are. I don't try to come out judgmental,

1422
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 5: like I just try to show Hella love. Those kids

1423
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 5: that are coming up, those are the next ones. Keep

1424
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 5: giving them free stuff. That's like, just keep giving them

1425
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 5: stuff because they can't always go out and get those

1426
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five dollars shoes too on their shoes,

1427
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 5: and there was a fight with Nike for a little bit,

1428
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 5: just with not a real fight, not a real fight,

1429
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 5: but it was like just keeping a price point at

1430
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 5: a great place so kids can get the hot stuff.

1431
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 5: Like it's coming from a great background. I know what

1432
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 5: I'm doing, and I know what you knows. Love appreciate

1433
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 5: Jordan's everything. I know how to pay how much to

1434
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 5: those before me. But the message that.

1435
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: Man I love, I think that's awesome.

1436
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: So right now we want to remind you were on

1437
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: the location in the boombone. You might hear the Disney

1438
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: fireworks in the background right now because they're.

1439
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: Starting to go off.

1440
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: A life to live it's about that's that's what I

1441
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 4: like to live.

1442
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: Our kids have no clue how life to live to

1443
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: Disney fireworks. Disney fireworks every night. And it's not like

1444
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: they don't even care to come out anymore. They've seen

1445
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: it so many times. Not a big deal.

1446
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 4: I know it's a lot of money these days making

1447
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 4: in the NBA.

1448
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: What's the biggest thing you'all haven't bought outside of the house,

1449
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 3: the biggest thing you can purchase.

1450
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: What's the first thing you purchased, the.

1451
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: First biggest thing you purchase pel like that. I know

1452
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: you kind of fresh into the game of persons new things,

1453
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: and I know you new money the first thing something

1454
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: like we all did that?

1455
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 4: On that how much that was?

1456
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: He already? No, Look he knows something already. Look this

1457
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: is when like you said, you like, I can't believe

1458
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: you did.

1459
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: I see him, he got something, got something on this risk, right,

1460
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean.

1461
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: Exactly. I didn't have no road. We didn't come on, bro,

1462
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: we ain't have no I ain't even getting no rollie

1463
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: to what.

1464
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: Four.

1465
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't in for if you you way ahead of me, Bro,

1466
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: I ain't get no road like my nice y, I

1467
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't even watch it like that.

1468
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: I was roally, you gotta get you a roller about

1469
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: my mama, Roly.

1470
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: I bought Jeff first big like when I got my

1471
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: first deal, my big deal with Phoenix. I bought like

1472
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: Jeff for show you like to my Jerry McGuire.

1473
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: I got Jeff for Bro.

1474
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: I didn't even I didn't have no rollie first while

1475
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: she got thought it was nice Bahamas. You mean we

1476
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: all went to the Bahamas, Larry all, and when.

1477
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: We Bahamas I got a Cardio.

1478
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 2: I got a Cardier watch there at the at the

1479
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: Cardio that was like the nice That was the nicest

1480
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: watch I ever had. And then when me and Jay

1481
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: were in New York, he putting me on some grown

1482
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: man swag and I got a panor ride that was

1483
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: like the nicest, cleanest, like I got compliments on that.

1484
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: That's a conversation piece. You don't know about that.

1485
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: You gotta learn or something like j and double Death

1486
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: mal at p A n R A.

1487
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: But no, that was just once again.

1488
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: J e U put me up on swag because now

1489
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: when I'm around, I'm doing the like it is not

1490
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: a par of my mind, you know, you know that's

1491
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: what it is. I know what's going on, like a

1492
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: double boy. You got me a clean half.

1493
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 4: Look, so what what what's the purchase that you purchase that.

1494
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 6: When I first got drafted, you know, my mo she

1495
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 6: moved to Boston. We both got apartments. I got her escalade,

1496
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 6: I got myself a range over.

1497
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: Yead Saint Louis guys a lot of like when he

1498
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: moved to l A, Mama Miles came with him in

1499
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: the to you know, this is what we do.

1500
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: It's wrong with that.

1501
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 6: I'm just coll but I remember, you know I got

1502
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 6: this like uh, I got this during the.

1503
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 4: City Sweat two jacket. He's just wearing.

1504
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 2: That. That's that new school drip, Like you know, that's

1505
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: that new script drip.

1506
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,959
Speaker 6: I remember, you know Nelly from Saint Louis. I remember

1507
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 6: seeing Nelly know videos, he had a ROLLI was iced out,

1508
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 6: you go. You know, Meek Mill got to watch this

1509
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 6: iceed out So I was like, yo, after the because

1510
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 6: the playoffs, you get that playoff check said, MA, I'm sorry,

1511
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 6: but you know, we get to the Eastern Conference finals,

1512
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give me a stout.

1513
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm remember wait wait, wait, that's not ice out? So

1514
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: is there an iceed out rolly somewhere in existence? Is

1515
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: that what I need to know about?

1516
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: See?

1517
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: I pay attention to I pay attention to context clues,

1518
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: he said, MA, we get to these I'm getting the

1519
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: ice paying attention.

1520
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 1: That watch is not it's a roll, but it's not ice.

1521
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 4: So you know how it goes.

1522
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 5: Okay, you know, buying these purchases, you know, Mama's looking

1523
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 5: out for your best interest, So you got to come

1524
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 5: up with a compromise.

1525
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 4: You gotta come up with a.

1526
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: Compromise, like you get your rolex, but this is a compromise.

1527
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 4: This is a confidence I get out.

1528
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: He was like, boy boy, I slapped you.

1529
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: You get that big money, you get that ice, like

1530
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: right now you're about to get this right here, and

1531
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna be all right. Like don't have the baby,

1532
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: don't have me had to put hands on you, Jason,

1533
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: you come up here with some one piece of ice

1534
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: on that thing.

1535
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be me and you eight million.

1536
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 3: Last year we on the budget, baby on the budget.

1537
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: Bro, we all had that car. I got my first back.

1538
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell my pop how much he couch for.

1539
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: He told me, you know what, don't tell me. He

1540
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: was like, because I don't want to have to do this.

1541
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: I was just like, you.

1542
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,959
Speaker 4: Know, I'm I wouldn't even walk in the bank.

1543
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: I thought I could just get three hundred dollars out

1544
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: of the day that I wouldn't even walk in the

1545
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: bank because I ain't never been in the bank.

1546
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 4: Nobody take me in no bank to be like here.

1547
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: Took me in there and gave me account and was like, yeah,

1548
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 3: you can get three hundred dollars off this card every day.

1549
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: Cole, He said, I won't be missed a nice watch.

1550
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 4: What's the big purchase?

1551
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: He a little more advanced, second contract. Let's stay with

1552
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: the first. Let's go, let's say we're gonna keep it.

1553
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it. No, I just didn't like.

1554
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 4: I didn't like he said something. He said somewhere, you.

1555
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: Know, I'm let him talk, okay, oh man uh.

1556
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 5: I came in during the lockout, so I had I

1557
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 5: had eight hundred grand in my name.

1558
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: I didn't get my money when.

1559
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 5: I first came out into the league, when I first

1560
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 5: got drafted, so my first purchase was final. I just

1561
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 5: needed a whip. I was happy to have a whip.

1562
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 5: That's not really a big purchase. But I had eighty

1563
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 5: grand in my name. I was like, you know, and

1564
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 5: then as I started getting older, that's when my dad

1565
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 5: was like And then that's when my dad was like,

1566
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 5: well what that's when the pj's rollies.

1567
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 4: They're like, you just get me out here, responsible with

1568
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 4: your money.

1569
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1570
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: Somebody plural, somebody say that the.

1571
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: Rolex or the Jets ridiculous or the PJ he said,

1572
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: the roles Jet.

1573
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 5: That's the then that's the then where I was like, yo,

1574
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 5: I need all of it. And then when I stopped

1575
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 5: telling my dad about what I was buying on my

1576
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 5: debit card because it was like giving them you know

1577
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 5: what I mean, Amanda knows the shout out to a

1578
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 5: Manda de generous, you know, make sure that's good, making

1579
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 5: sure she's good, make sure she keep everything in like

1580
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 5: if Jeff gets winded it.

1581
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 4: I was like one time I had to tell Amanda.

1582
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, stop telling Jeff everything I'm buying.

1583
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: Jeff telling my dad what I'm going? Are you kidding me?

1584
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 4: A man told on me too. I still love it

1585
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 4: to this day.

1586
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 5: But Jeff told my dad and my dad calling me

1587
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 5: like are you trying to buy this?

1588
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm like Like when he get on the phone with you,

1589
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: was like.

1590
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: What's up, Jay, Like you're trying to figure out what

1591
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: he knows first, like yeah, so you're like okay, it's cool,

1592
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: Like yeah, okay, So I thought he was waiting because

1593
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: the way every time he has he called you was

1594
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: like something's wrong, like carry Jason, like you what are

1595
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: you doing?

1596
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: Like what the hell are you doing? Is it just't okay?

1597
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sure you are you sound like

1598
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: something might be going on, Like is everything.

1599
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 3: Okay, Like I see his name, I'm like, what, let's

1600
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 3: just go on, Like.

1601
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: We had to loosen them up, but I have the rock.

1602
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: We had to mess with him, I'm telling you, like

1603
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: we had to. Really we got that, ja, Like y'all

1604
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 2: got a way maund the matter, JA, Like we.

1605
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 4: Had to get that with him. Like some stories about

1606
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 4: all the time, like.

1607
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: We why never let him go?

1608
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 2: But like we don't want to keep all night, No,

1609
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: we won't last stuff being trying to wrap it up.

1610
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: So we got a little segment like it's.

1611
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: A little dicey for you because you was born like

1612
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: right at the end of this it's called better in

1613
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: the nineties.

1614
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: We know you was born right there.

1615
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: You know everything, so retro you feel like you still

1616
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: have a good, good amount of knowledge or something of

1617
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: the stuff that we oh.

1618
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh him.

1619
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, yeah, don't say who like I said,

1620
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 4: because I was saying that the que lot.

1621
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: Change, Yo, That's what I'm saying.

1622
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: Why be dealing with the locker room.

1623
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: Right now? Everything? Real life? Y'all seen the big brother

1624
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: little brother dyn.

1625
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 4: Have you trying me all the time because they're slap

1626
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 4: him like.

1627
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: Put him in you can't.

1628
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 5: Hey, I'll tell you one time though he didn't want

1629
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 5: he didn't want to step out the bus.

1630
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: Swear up, you want to step out call me on

1631
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 4: the bus. He came in a bus.

1632
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: Yo.

1633
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, let's.

1634
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: To the team now.

1635
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 4: I gotta come up and be the tough guy. Come on, man.

1636
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 6: You know we leaving stops. We leave in Minnesota. He's

1637
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 6: sitting like three rows behind me. You know, he always talking.

1638
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 6: So I'm eating.

1639
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: He walked up on me, like, what's up?

1640
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: What's It's really my fault, It's really I'm eating.

1641
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, yo, everybody on the bus laughing.

1642
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 4: He's like all right, yeah, yeah, I wait, like five

1643
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 4: minutes ago about he back on the phone, took my

1644
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 4: book Bagrove put him in the head like real quick, yeah.

1645
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: What's up?

1646
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 4: Now? These ninety topics?

1647
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: What's better?

1648
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 6: Hair cuts? They better in the nineties or they were

1649
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 6: sutter now. I mean, some people get their hair cut.

1650
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,839
Speaker 6: We don't get no lineing. They just shady.

1651
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, let's let's speak on that. I mean, I mean,

1652
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: let's speak on that, because I feel like you got

1653
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: the crispy lining right now. You definitely are posing that

1654
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: to my man's here. Look I went through not now,

1655
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: but he and he had a frow.

1656
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: He had to throw with the head. But I like

1657
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: the head.

1658
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: I feel like he was wrapping the head and that

1659
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: what happened we was head man.

1660
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: Did you talk? Did y'all catch that? That was the knuckles?

1661
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. He go through a

1662
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: lot of phases.

1663
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 4: I went through where I just let my beard grow,

1664
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 4: not get in the shape up.

1665
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 5: I was just like, yo, I'm just I'm against the

1666
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 5: system right now. He was cutting his head but getting

1667
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 5: he was lashing out, Oh cut, oh cut, no shape up.

1668
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 4: Everybody like, yo, why you're not getting shape? I don't

1669
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 4: feel like it.

1670
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 5: They stopped asking. I'm just shaping my bill right now.

1671
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 5: I'm letting it grow with my lips. Man, what did

1672
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 5: you think of that?

1673
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 4: I like that.

1674
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm afan of it.

1675
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 4: I like that.

1676
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: I do that time I rock with a lot of

1677
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: things that you do. That's not one of them. He

1678
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: do rag show.

1679
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,520
Speaker 4: Okay, So you're trying to get waves.

1680
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 8: Like I get a cut all I get time out.

1681
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 8: So the time, it's not that's not happening for you

1682
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 8: no matter what. Right like right now that you show

1683
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 8: up in the car with the dude fuck you on

1684
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 8: the car like ship ship laid like a fucking.

1685
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: Firm, like you get defiled.

1686
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: Do you get to feel like it's saying like he

1687
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: needs a lot nothing like that, pretty much.

1688
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: Like he's not like he had right out he got

1689
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: in the car with a damn man, like what was

1690
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: going on?

1691
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 3: Like you know what we're going right now get Fontain

1692
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 3: hairstyles in the nineties hairstyles and the right.

1693
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: Now you kind of big nineties hairstyles, hairstyles right now.

1694
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1695
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm going nineties bro, I go now, I go. I

1696
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: got better hairstyles. No, it freedom.

1697
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 4: It's like people just freedom, like smart on our team.

1698
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: He got the Celtics.

1699
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 4: He got the shamrock braided. That's hair like a word.

1700
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: I seen scary tell you with some numbers cutting his

1701
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 2: hair and stuff like that.

1702
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: That's the tattoo.

1703
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 4: Oh he got a tag. That's his birthday.

1704
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I thought he had.

1705
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 4: Okay, they said they thought he was from in Ye

1706
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 4: from some he from the heights in Cleveland.

1707
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: No, I guess the three one seven, that's why. That's

1708
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: that's true.

1709
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 4: It's like an alarm clock. But that's his birthday three seventeen.

1710
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 4: That's what's up. I know that was what everybody.

1711
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: I heard it on TV and I was like, Yeah,

1712
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:51,440
Speaker 2: that's better in the nineties or now, Charles Barker.

1713
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: Better now?

1714
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 4: Shout out to Chuck shiun oufter Chuck.

1715
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: I love it's in a hard I love both versions.

1716
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was more athletic in the nineties.

1717
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 5: I like you better in the nineties because round the

1718
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 5: mount Man when he got the MVP in nineteen ninety four,

1719
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 5: played against MJ had that, you know, he was your special.

1720
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 4: Then went the Phoenix. They got traded Phoenix and took

1721
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 4: that team to the finals. That was very special. Even

1722
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 4: though he you know, Robin Pound, he showed me a.

1723
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 5: Lot of stories about Chuck, you know, how he was

1724
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 5: as a career player and what he did and how.

1725
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 4: He accomplished all that. You know, he's just a yeah.

1726
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 4: The road he went through. Super teams, were they better

1727
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 4: in the nineties or better now.

1728
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: Today?

1729
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 4: To today? Club? Wait, super teams, superteam I.

1730
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 5: Mean you got the Blazers when they had Scotti. I'm

1731
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 5: just saying they was Oh, but you had the Rockets.

1732
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 5: They potentially could have been a super team late in

1733
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 5: their career.

1734
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: With Charles King, Loan and Peyton and all them, but

1735
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: it wasn't really they can't.

1736
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 4: They didn't win so they could.

1737
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 5: But I'm saying they were gonna get a MJ though

1738
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 5: they was gonna get Scotty m J picking up.

1739
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: They was pressing the whole game.

1740
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 5: You watched those I know you saw them, just the

1741
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 5: defense at m J. Scotty, bj Armstrong, all them dudes

1742
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 5: with Thennis Robin, but.

1743
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: They weren't really I guess you they were a super

1744
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: team then it's Robin was right robbing three famous Robin MJ.

1745
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: But prior to that, I didn't consider them a super

1746
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Speaker 2: team because like they were all home grown Scotty. Scotty

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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: came up on the MJ and became an All Star.

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01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: Soon first time Scotty was an All Star, MJ was

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Speaker 2: out of here.

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Speaker 1: It was over. As soon as he got a co

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01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: star was over.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I didn't feel like there's like run

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Speaker 4: up for the MVP.

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Speaker 1: They got robbing.

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Speaker 4: That's the super change for that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really think.

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Speaker 4: So now we're say now it.

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Speaker 3: NBA Draft Night better back then or better than now,

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Speaker 3: I think it's better than that. It was exclusive it's

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Speaker 3: a bigger thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an event. It's like an event.

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Speaker 1: Yea country back then. No, don't say y'all clean.

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Speaker 3: I had that great boy fresh bred up. I had

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 3: a clean I was cream bro up. You know I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about shot Town.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, we're gonna wrap it up, and you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, let's let's let y'all get up out

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Speaker 2: of here.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: We definitely appreciate y'all boys stopping through the podcast.

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Speaker 4: I got one, same one moo Saint Louis. You know

1773
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He's just the same little things going with.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: We Darius and I appreciate y'all coming through. Man stopping

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Speaker 2: through the patio. A k the boom boom wrong. We

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Speaker 2: got young Kyrie and young young j Tatum in the building.

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Speaker 2: Man for the Celtics to Superstars. We appreciate him coming through.

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Speaker 2: Man his family appreciate, appreciate y'all Yo. Check us out

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Speaker 2: us out.

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Speaker 1: We out here. We getting it in knucklehead Jack.

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