Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you. Why why would look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Well, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited for a certain kind of reason. Okay, what
Speaker 1: is this? Well? Two things? Okay. Number one is today
Speaker 1: is my mother's birthday, Rogers. I very nearly just said
Speaker 1: her age. But it's it's unkind to do that. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: I mean I think the stigmas be slowly, slowly be.
Speaker 1: Actually I have to talk to her about that, Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she would feel, you know, like
Speaker 1: I would like if I said her age that would
Speaker 1: offend her. I don't know. Maybe she's one of you know,
Speaker 1: she can't speak for her. I can't speak for her.
Speaker 1: I would never even try. Okay. What's the second reason? Well,
Speaker 1: that we're going to be on Orlando in just five days,
Speaker 1: and just five days where we are going on vacation,
Speaker 1: were going on vacation. It will be very fun. Watch
Speaker 1: look out for be on the lookout for a new
Speaker 1: installment of our horror anthology series. Yes, a daily horror
Speaker 1: anthology series that we produce on the spot called four
Speaker 1: Nights in Orlando. I literally edit the videos while I'm
Speaker 1: in line for Space Mountain, and you know, post them
Speaker 1: while while I'm on Space Mountain. And while I appreciate
Speaker 1: you doing that because it is the majority of the work,
Speaker 1: I also feel salty when you have your facing your phone. Bitch.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to be connected to me.
Speaker 1: I understand that you're in post, bitch, but I need
Speaker 1: to be connecting with you about the decor, because you
Speaker 1: know that's the number one gag about Disney World is
Speaker 1: the decor and the amount of effort that they put
Speaker 1: into the I can appreciate the CUE experience. Just fine, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I'll report back next week and I'll just
Speaker 1: really quickly thanks to everyone for all the nice things
Speaker 1: you guys have been saying about our Vulture recaps for
Speaker 1: drag Racing, for Top Monol. We'll keep them coming for
Speaker 1: the next, you know, fifty thou weeks. Hopefully the seasons
Speaker 1: will continue for fifty thousand weeks. So there you go,
Speaker 1: and continue on. Now. I'm noticing our guests doing something
Speaker 1: right now which is gagging me very hard. Our guests
Speaker 1: came prepared, truly prepared, and with the ensemble to gag
Speaker 1: as well. Oh, the ensemble is gaginager, yes, because understands
Speaker 1: that podcast our visual medium. We say it all the time. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's please introduce our guests. Who is our guest?
Speaker 1: I'd like you to tell them because it's sort of
Speaker 1: an icon to me. And when I found out that
Speaker 1: we were going to have our guests on the show,
Speaker 1: I did have a moment. Our guest, I had a
Speaker 1: moment because I leapt out of my seat as soon
Speaker 1: as HPJ sent us the ask. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's just a litany of credits to go through, so
Speaker 1: many we'll just we'll just cherry pick a few. So, um,
Speaker 1: I love cherry picking. What does cherry picking mean? Do you? Well?
Speaker 1: First of all, we need to get back to your
Speaker 1: A segment. You're a block A block discussed the We've
Speaker 1: done a couple of things that I love. You said
Speaker 1: the word bitch, which is my go to work to
Speaker 1: myself every morning. Alright, bitch, let's get up, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. And then is your mother Katrina?
Speaker 1: My mother's name is Katrina. Okay, here's the thing about
Speaker 1: your age. You can google it there, so that's out.
Speaker 1: And then also Space Mountain. I was around when Space
Speaker 1: Mountain was built in the seventies. Yes, because I'm that
Speaker 1: old bitch and wait, what was the what was how
Speaker 1: did it field? But look at you know I'm not no,
Speaker 1: not at all. Now let me tell you something. I
Speaker 1: want to revisit this first, Let's introduce our guests, because
Speaker 1: I want everyone to understand, and I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 1: We're going to to the beginning of the B block.
Speaker 1: Here you can currently see our guest star in the
Speaker 1: Fantastic new show by Will Ferrell, Adam McKay Steve levittan
Speaker 1: legend Tuesday nights at nine. It's called Vegas Fantastic Jokes
Speaker 1: Packed with joke and that's a requirement absolutely Fox or
Speaker 1: Hulu or Fox. Now there you go. I actually watched
Speaker 1: the episodes on Hulu. Thank you for Hulu. I should
Speaker 1: pronounce it in its correct way, Hulu the one and
Speaker 1: pronounce its pronounced it. Yes, of course she of the
Speaker 1: acting duty teach, acting teacher at cap twenty one, so
Speaker 1: we have to take her word for it. And Julie
Speaker 1: Andrews with a liquid liquid that's what that's what liquid
Speaker 1: you perfect? So Eli, Vegas, please watch. It's so so
Speaker 1: funny on it and so so funny and this is
Speaker 1: just truly and we'll talk about this a formative role.
Speaker 1: I'm shook Todd and Zoolander and Zander too. Of course,
Speaker 1: the amazing phrase my mistake, my mistake, you're a mistake indeed,
Speaker 1: but just the lip quivering, oh perfect. You can't beat that.
Speaker 1: You can come up with the pronunciation of jacquomin by
Speaker 1: the way, that's that's the T. That's the T, and
Speaker 1: that's and we're having tea and were actualizing what kind
Speaker 1: of tea are you having? By the way, green green, pomegranate.
Speaker 1: Constant comment, Oh, constant comment. That's the title of this episode.
Speaker 1: That is already we know, come on, this is on,
Speaker 1: and you know what, just just starve the screen. You've
Speaker 1: seen him in the comeback. Um. Oh my legendary scrub
Speaker 1: is honey, okay, scrub Okay, it's actually rule number sixty
Speaker 1: four of culture. Come through scrubs and Sweethelm Alabama, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, with with ms rees and and starve the stage.
Speaker 1: In the original Broadway cast of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, Yes,
Speaker 1: he knows the Queen. He knows the Queen. I do
Speaker 1: all of them, all of them, each and everyone, each
Speaker 1: and everyone, And there's just so much more there's literally
Speaker 1: so much more and one of the few Americans to
Speaker 1: do absolutely fabulous and a fab are they like Harry
Speaker 1: Potter where they require British cast Well, it's a British institution.
Speaker 1: You have to achieve a certain level of high society.
Speaker 1: And also I just want to say something. Yes, I
Speaker 1: hope to get to the point where in day where
Speaker 1: I can step forward and say end this credit because
Speaker 1: I love you know the credits that are important to you.
Speaker 1: You know what I knew I had arrived when my
Speaker 1: agents said to me, Nathan, there's a breakdown, and it
Speaker 1: says we want a Nathan Lea Graham type. Stop the presses,
Speaker 1: stop the presses. The presses are stopped in their shops.
Speaker 1: I have a follow up to that, but just please
Speaker 1: welcome our guest, Nathan Lea. It's not even a Nathan type.
Speaker 1: We have the real thing at this moment. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: the follow Miss Dumbo, Miss Dumbo. We are recording in Dumbo,
Speaker 1: Miss Dumbo. I need to ask what was the breakdown
Speaker 1: for what was this role? I didn't even hear anything
Speaker 1: after that. Oh my god, yeah, you just blocked out.
Speaker 1: Did you inquire about booking it yourself? Because there is
Speaker 1: a there is a want something. I want someone out
Speaker 1: there to you know, I want to pay it forward.
Speaker 1: I also want to judge that performance, absolutely, and how
Speaker 1: how close did they get to the real right, you know,
Speaker 1: eyebrows and cheeks? No, no, no, no, it's more than that, though.
Speaker 1: There's the cheek ones for days. Come on, well, thank you,
Speaker 1: work on yet, But I'm not. I'm not above it. No, no,
Speaker 1: none of us is. I'm not above it. So you
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about. Unfortunate, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think got worked on. Are you crazy? I think it
Speaker 1: was just the makeup. Honestly, I think you are a
Speaker 1: damn fool. She's pulled back. She had an overdrawn lip.
Speaker 1: Now you can pull back without actually having any work done.
Speaker 1: Paul does it and it looks thirty years younger. So
Speaker 1: you know, this is what Marlena did for years. Marlena
Speaker 1: did it. Yes, absolutely, she looks different, is all all right?
Speaker 1: All right? But none of us is above work, that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking she's just a little young to get
Speaker 1: that amount of work. Look, you have a little bit
Speaker 1: done over the years, so you look like yourself always, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and that's how you get the cast of Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of insert city here exactly. Also, if you look like
Speaker 1: you've had work done, it didn't work. That didn't work. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's a rule of culture. That culture number four, if
Speaker 1: you look like you done didn't work. Absolutely. Now here's
Speaker 1: a question I had right off the bat. Yes, please,
Speaker 1: did your character in Zoolander and Moved got to have
Speaker 1: a romantic so sexual relationship? I need to know. Listen,
Speaker 1: if we do three and four right, I can't tell you. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: but I will say just in terms of Cannon move
Speaker 1: Out to and Alexandria A. Todds Christian Wiggs characters or
Speaker 1: two were romantically linked. I don't know if that was true.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know that Todd enjoyed watching them.
Speaker 1: That's perfect. Is that was that here like direction onset,
Speaker 1: that was like your your action, the backstory. That's what
Speaker 1: I decided to do. You made a choice. I did,
Speaker 1: And I started tonguing the the dog I love, the
Speaker 1: original dog. Her name was Kiva. She passed, she did,
Speaker 1: but you know they thought we had drugged her up
Speaker 1: or somebody said no, this bitch is just old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I wasn't calling her about of her name because
Speaker 1: she was a actual bitch. Yea. But even if we
Speaker 1: were calling that dog a bit, I'm sure it would
Speaker 1: be a positive. Absolutely, it's such a positive thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she booked that role. She showed up to said even
Speaker 1: though she was old. She she came for you every time,
Speaker 1: Betty White in her ass all the way to that sad.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why people gag when people come
Speaker 1: for you every time. No, because we're still coming for you, right,
Speaker 1: they certainly are. Now here's here's here's what I was
Speaker 1: gagged for when we were doing the A block, as
Speaker 1: our guest called. So, I think that what probably happened
Speaker 1: was you were briefed about what do we do it
Speaker 1: a segment called I don't think so, honey, right, and
Speaker 1: you came with a list grievances and you added something.
Speaker 1: You came with seven topics. This is too good, This
Speaker 1: historic because let me tell you something, these two rarely
Speaker 1: come with one, and then we remember we have to
Speaker 1: do our own segment and have to make one up.
Speaker 1: But I do have two options tonight. I'm happy to
Speaker 1: say I came with one prepared, which is usually one
Speaker 1: more than night. Okay, So I noticed that you wrote
Speaker 1: that's that's beautiful. Thank you. Yes, I noticed that you
Speaker 1: wrote something down during our discussion, and I would like
Speaker 1: to know what that is. Um, well, I just wrote
Speaker 1: something down to refer to something like I understand. All right,
Speaker 1: So he's gonna have something. He has something to say,
Speaker 1: you know, like Dan Rather does on Rachel Meadow. Dan
Speaker 1: is always on Rachel. Well, you know, he's an icon.
Speaker 1: He's an iconomy you and Dan Rather. He kind of comes.
Speaker 1: He kind of says sassy things about Trump. He's very sassy. Nick,
Speaker 1: can do you have any opinions on how often Rachel
Speaker 1: brings on presidential historian Michael Baschloss. You know what, you
Speaker 1: can look at his hair and tell how many times
Speaker 1: he's been on, because it's it's changed. Michael's Yes, Michael's
Speaker 1: has changed over the period of time. He was like, well, listen,
Speaker 1: if I want to be on this bitches show all
Speaker 1: the time, yeah, I need to, I need up. This
Speaker 1: is this is every single conversation that Rachel has with
Speaker 1: Michael Beasch last. Wow, let's bring on presidential historian Michael
Speaker 1: Beasch Last. Michael, has Donald Trump ever done? Has any
Speaker 1: president ever done? This? Uh? Sorry, Rachel goes Michael, is
Speaker 1: there any precedent for what Donald Trump Trump has clearly
Speaker 1: done that has clearly unprecedented? Michael beach Last says no.
Speaker 1: Rachel says, watch the space and it and sits commercial
Speaker 1: break this space. That's what happens every time, and it
Speaker 1: does happen every time, and he's always, you know, flow
Speaker 1: mixed and surprised. Yes, she's becoming a beautiful characature of herself.
Speaker 1: I think. Explain that beautiful in that like she gives
Speaker 1: it to you every ball a k A she gives.
Speaker 1: She gives you literally the same demeanor, the same take
Speaker 1: pretty much every time. But it's always right, it's always good.
Speaker 1: She's spot on. I adore her. She's number one, She's
Speaker 1: number one. She is the female Walter knk Ride. Yes, there,
Speaker 1: there you go. That's a rule of culture, number one hundred.
Speaker 1: Rae is the female Walter Cronkite. Listen and learn, children,
Speaker 1: listen and learn. I have to be tuning into Rachel
Speaker 1: Matto a little bit more because, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: my number one political source of news right now is
Speaker 1: the view Well, and you've got to be careful with that,
Speaker 1: you truly do, because they're rarely accurate. Yeah, the blue
Speaker 1: cards are not always on not No, they're really accurate. Also,
Speaker 1: I think Megan McCain has a cold this week, and
Speaker 1: it's really adding a whole new dimension to the annoying
Speaker 1: there to the timbre of her tone. Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: already sort of like it's it's already you know. Yes,
Speaker 1: not to talk negatively about a woman's voice. Oh no, god, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's the same. But that's what we do. That's what
Speaker 1: we do. That's what we do. You wasn't a loving way,
Speaker 1: and like you know, even the list that will get
Speaker 1: to in a moment. It's not that I'm a negative person.
Speaker 1: It's just that I do what i'm told. You have things,
Speaker 1: you know, I have things to say, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah no. But the thing is I try to like
Speaker 1: Megan McCain. I try very hard. I try very hard
Speaker 1: to You try five days a week. I try five
Speaker 1: days a week from eleven to twelve. There you go.
Speaker 1: And that's much more than we do with people we know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't that interesting. I would actually go as for
Speaker 1: us to say I know more about what she thinks
Speaker 1: than even my closest friends. Yes, it's because I assume
Speaker 1: I already know, but do you know you want you
Speaker 1: want to love her, you want to get to know people,
Speaker 1: you want to share you other people's opinions, because even
Speaker 1: gets to one of my things, um which I'll just
Speaker 1: throw out there, it out there. It's both sides. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't take it. It's not both sides.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of hearing that phrase. It drives me bananas.
Speaker 1: And that's all. I don't have to go on further
Speaker 1: with that, but it just drives me bananas. Although there
Speaker 1: is this there's this crazy study that was just released
Speaker 1: where they tracked they basically tracked back the sources of
Speaker 1: tweets that were being retweeted by both Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: activists and Blue Lives activists, and they all went back
Speaker 1: to the same Russian hacking so and in equal proportions.
Speaker 1: So what the conclusion was was that there's basically two
Speaker 1: Russian troll hacker sitting next to each other somewhere in
Speaker 1: like Siberia, um just and one of them is tweeting
Speaker 1: something on the on the right, on the on the
Speaker 1: extreme right side, and one of them is tweeting something
Speaker 1: and the others tweeting something on the extreme left side
Speaker 1: just too so chaos. Yeah, because they want in the
Speaker 1: they want to stir things up so that each side
Speaker 1: sees each other as a caricature. They'd like us to
Speaker 1: have a civil war. I believe, you know, a house divided,
Speaker 1: there you go there, a house divided. There you go
Speaker 1: that as the saying goes, as the saying goes, a
Speaker 1: house divided there, ago, that's actually rule number fourteen of culture.
Speaker 1: A house divided, there you go. You know what, We're
Speaker 1: going a little we're a little trigger happy, very similar
Speaker 1: to my expression, which is if the shoe fits, Okay, listen,
Speaker 1: we are getting a little trigger happy with it. But
Speaker 1: this is the thing. People need to keep up, Yes
Speaker 1: they do. And this is a lightning round. You need
Speaker 1: to keep up. This is a special, special podcast trained
Speaker 1: for this. It's not a lightning round, it's an enlightening round.
Speaker 1: You that is brilliant. And let me tell you something
Speaker 1: comments and you're one of the most brilliant people I know,
Speaker 1: my friend, my friend, and that was amongst the most
Speaker 1: brilliant thing you ever said. It's not a lightening round,
Speaker 1: it's an enlightening And I stand on the shoulders of
Speaker 1: giants and they're sitting right next to me on this
Speaker 1: at this table. Very much the last thing to go
Speaker 1: on a woman her shoulders, The last thing we need
Speaker 1: to talk about Nathan's ensemble. Okay, yes, because you came
Speaker 1: in with the necklace of the year. It's from Hawaii. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're like shells. What is it? Describe it? They're black,
Speaker 1: They're black shells, big black shells. They're but they're formed
Speaker 1: into these little sort of balls and um, you know, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And and they're around my neck, black balls around my neck,
Speaker 1: black balls around my neck. But let's just talk about
Speaker 1: because the color story is if a monochrome, how would
Speaker 1: you describe I'm wearing all in black and white? So
Speaker 1: it's all black and white, and technically black and white
Speaker 1: are not colors, their basics shades. And you know, I
Speaker 1: can be a very basic bitch as well. All I
Speaker 1: think we all can. I think we all have that
Speaker 1: we are going to Orlando. Well, there you have it.
Speaker 1: You have it? Now are you? Are you shady about Orlando?
Speaker 1: I am not shady about Orlando. Um, because people have
Speaker 1: televisions there that they do absolutely you know what, beautiful answer.
Speaker 1: If you live in Orlando, you better too into Fox
Speaker 1: Tuesday nights at nine and watch Eli to Vegas. I
Speaker 1: like this fucking show. I was watching it and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, jokes, okay, jokes, and you've got great actors. Okay.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you I'm gagged for the lead actress
Speaker 1: of the show, because yes, she's very kind. By the way,
Speaker 1: can I tell you, yes, Kim Matula is that he
Speaker 1: pronounced it? She the way she delivers jokes. You say,
Speaker 1: that's a nice person. I can't. I can't describe how
Speaker 1: I feel that way. It's an essence, it's a tone.
Speaker 1: And she is so wonderfully smart and politically minded and
Speaker 1: just a great, great woman. I'm obsessed. Do you know
Speaker 1: where I know her and where you may know her?
Speaker 1: She looks familiar. She looks familiar. That's because did you
Speaker 1: watch the second season of Unreal? I did not. She
Speaker 1: plays watch I did when I found out that she
Speaker 1: was in it. Okay, good, okay. So um. In the
Speaker 1: second season of Unreal, she plays like they get a
Speaker 1: black suitor and they're like, well, it's the first year
Speaker 1: we're gonna have black suitor. So he was a former
Speaker 1: NFL player, and they put her on the show and
Speaker 1: her dad owns an NFL team and they want them
Speaker 1: to get together, but she ends up sucking the executive producer,
Speaker 1: who's gross. There you go, and that's a lot of
Speaker 1: happens there. And she, you know, she's fantastic in every
Speaker 1: possible way. She's a delight to work with. She's a
Speaker 1: wonderful person and I can't say enough about her. She's
Speaker 1: as also my man is on there. And this is
Speaker 1: another one. We were talking about my my top five
Speaker 1: before before Bowen got it, and you were mentioning that.
Speaker 1: We were talking about Jonathan Groff as I am want
Speaker 1: to do, and you said, is he a mainstay on
Speaker 1: the list? I said yes, And then I was thinking
Speaker 1: about people on my list further than that, Mr Dylan McDermott,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? He's suave and cool, cool, handsome, handsome,
Speaker 1: and it's talented as all get out. Of course, we
Speaker 1: are actually having, which is one of my I don't
Speaker 1: love this word when people ask me, are you having? Yeah.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's not fun, it's work. But it's
Speaker 1: enjoyable is a better word. It's enjoyable, Yes, enjoyable to
Speaker 1: do it's such a joy to do. Fun is for like,
Speaker 1: you know, Space Mountain. Yeah, that's exactly what you do
Speaker 1: when you go to space work days. It's not fun,
Speaker 1: it's not enjoyable, especially when you get off the neck
Speaker 1: is all out of wagon is But Dylan is a
Speaker 1: dream everyone. That's great. It's so fun to work with.
Speaker 1: He's great. And I saw that there was an episode
Speaker 1: which also featured Dermott mulroney. Yes, another dream, but another
Speaker 1: true will be returning Dylan McDermott and Dermott mulroney and
Speaker 1: the same show. And that's a risk. Do you d
Speaker 1: who is our third pilot on that? Um? Josh do Josh?
Speaker 1: That's another dream. This is a show full of yes.
Speaker 1: You know. I was sort of like, okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Have to have a fan the vapors,
Speaker 1: you have the vapors, honey, I mean rub talk about
Speaker 1: okay talk And she's also stunning to Kim, Yes, everyone
Speaker 1: on the show is just gorgeous. You're just like, oh please, no,
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate there you go take it. So
Speaker 1: talk about this role because I mean it's just it's Bernard.
Speaker 1: He's last name. Have we heard the last name on
Speaker 1: the show yet? We haven't. Okay, So this is a breaking, yes,
Speaker 1: breaking breaking. Everyone's been saying on the blocks, what is
Speaker 1: Bernard's last names? We can we can confirm it is Jasser, Jasser,
Speaker 1: bitch now talk. I think Bernard is so much more
Speaker 1: than the and I hate to use this phrase, the
Speaker 1: quintessential game attendant. He's someone with agency. He's someone with
Speaker 1: I have to agree with you, and he will continue
Speaker 1: to show you that agency as the shows unfold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as the episodes come out, they've been so kind to Bernard,
Speaker 1: and uh, we're having a great time and just you White,
Speaker 1: Henry Higgins. Why see? And usually a show on a
Speaker 1: plane would make me anxious because I am, of course
Speaker 1: famously an anxious flyer. But I put field rights listening
Speaker 1: and watching and we get off the plane too, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get off the plane. And I mean, of course,
Speaker 1: it's the nucleus of the show, it's the central character
Speaker 1: of the show. But we get off that plane and
Speaker 1: you get to see other people's in bonds. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the New York City and Sex in the City.
Speaker 1: The plane is like another character exactly the planets. Fifth Lady, Yes,
Speaker 1: jack Pot hunting, jack Pot, jack Pot airlines. Have you
Speaker 1: did you ever did you have to like this? Is?
Speaker 1: This feels like a very you know, weird question. Do
Speaker 1: you have to talk to a lot of male fight
Speaker 1: attendants all or just fight attendants? We have someone there
Speaker 1: on the set and a matter that I did an
Speaker 1: interview this morning and I mentioned what I did on
Speaker 1: Yes Chat Chat a TV and and they asked me
Speaker 1: this lightning round sort of game show questions about phrases
Speaker 1: for flight attend I was like, bitch, I just played
Speaker 1: one on TV. So that was very interesting. Um, and
Speaker 1: I got most of the questions wrong. But that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine, it's fine. I got the job, that's true.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting is that we do have someone there,
Speaker 1: and it's very interesting to see them come in and say,
Speaker 1: we don't do that. You're stretching this. That's funny if
Speaker 1: you tie it in with that. So see, I have
Speaker 1: a question about that person though. If they're so good
Speaker 1: at flight attending, why aren't they up there doing it right? Retired? Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's a quick answer to the question I have.
Speaker 1: So now I feel more comfortable. Now I feel more
Speaker 1: comfortable with the whole thing. Yeah, you know, flight attendants
Speaker 1: love them. I love them. I will say the male ones.
Speaker 1: I may or may not have had a little tift
Speaker 1: tristret Wait just Tristan people. No, no, it's not see
Speaker 1: that's that's what I was already about that. So maybe
Speaker 1: I'm a trist is merely when you hook up with
Speaker 1: the flight attendant. But I just tooked up with the
Speaker 1: flight at time. You did. Wait this right after college.
Speaker 1: This was a while ago. But he was real interesting.
Speaker 1: He had like his name. First of all, his his
Speaker 1: name was not Bernard. Now his name is not Bernard.
Speaker 1: His name was was spelled with an sky skylar, and
Speaker 1: so he took that to the fucking Instagram bank. And
Speaker 1: at the time, this was two thou twelve, already had
Speaker 1: like followers. He was like Skyler in the sky. She
Speaker 1: was like an Instagram famous flight attendant freaking the sheet anyway,
Speaker 1: but he mile high. Indeed he had. He showed me
Speaker 1: like they get these like print outs every day of
Speaker 1: like their their their routes, and yes we have those
Speaker 1: as well, right, and it's it just it just seems
Speaker 1: like an untenable lifestyle. And so hats off to people
Speaker 1: listen to that, you know, they I always equate them
Speaker 1: to actors because they have to feel out the audience. Yes,
Speaker 1: they have to know what people are feeling, what they're
Speaker 1: going through, um, sort of attend to them because you're
Speaker 1: stuck together like in the theater um for those moments,
Speaker 1: and it's like we got to deal with each other.
Speaker 1: And also every passenger is judging the flight attendant. I
Speaker 1: do it to So I just just realized I do this.
Speaker 1: But I was literally on a flight a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago and I was like, Okay, what's the flight attendant?
Speaker 1: Are they friendly? Are they cute? What are they doing
Speaker 1: through the hardy quick? And you do? You judge them?
Speaker 1: And they do thevery passenger you know, that's probably fun
Speaker 1: for them. Oh, I'm sure it is. I mean it
Speaker 1: keeps them going. Yeah, Oh my god. I've never really
Speaker 1: thought of it going, especially with our extras. We have extras,
Speaker 1: you know who I on Jackpot? Is that as similar?
Speaker 1: Is that a similar relationship there is that? Are you
Speaker 1: treating them with the same sort of arms length? In general? Yes?
Speaker 1: And I don't mean for you to like make no, no, no,
Speaker 1: but in general yes, because you want to have sort
Speaker 1: of a professional sort of thing going. But then as
Speaker 1: as far as Nathan two, fellow actor. I assume that
Speaker 1: some of them are actual actors who are a part
Speaker 1: of the extra. Of course, I'm very kind of them
Speaker 1: because you want that sort of camaraderie and all that
Speaker 1: sort of thing happening. But in general I don't want
Speaker 1: them near me, right of course, No, get them away.
Speaker 1: And also they can need after me exactly, they can
Speaker 1: need after me after I'm done, after you're done. I
Speaker 1: was on a set and this this this background person
Speaker 1: was looking for like there were there weren't outlets where
Speaker 1: we were filming, and so she was looking for this
Speaker 1: outlet and then I was looking for an outlet too,
Speaker 1: but then she had like taken this outlet before I did,
Speaker 1: and so I was just like, you know what, that's fine.
Speaker 1: And so I went to the p and I was like,
Speaker 1: is there an extra outlet for my phone? She goes,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna kick We're gonna kick that.
Speaker 1: We're kicked that Rosmary off of hers and I was
Speaker 1: like no, no, I was like, don't don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. She's like, you get priority, We're gonna kick
Speaker 1: her off. I was like, non, absolutely not, because then
Speaker 1: there does reflect on you it's like well bow and
Speaker 1: yang and knocked to my phone out of its sport
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, no, please, don't do that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, you know what, But what happened and what
Speaker 1: was the inevitable thing that happened? I went and found
Speaker 1: my own outlet was always well, always well listen, you paid,
Speaker 1: paid it forward. And now I have not really seen
Speaker 1: that many pieces of art that focus on the life
Speaker 1: of a flight attendant, but I know we're one of
Speaker 1: the few. I guess. The last one was that Gwyneth
Speaker 1: peltrom over you from the top. It was was it
Speaker 1: a film? It was a film. There's never been a well,
Speaker 1: there has been a television show, but it was before
Speaker 1: you both were born. And it was called Flying High
Speaker 1: and it started Connie Selca, So you have to sort
Speaker 1: of look that up. I'm giving Selca. I'm giving you
Speaker 1: some deep dive there. Please. Also, they had a m show.
Speaker 1: It was a comedy. She was indeed, and she was
Speaker 1: wonderful in it. She's a wonderful period. So yes, un
Speaker 1: good ones as well. I started interrupting, No, please, let's
Speaker 1: interrupt all the time. Um. Also, I think I may
Speaker 1: be making some history here. I might be the first
Speaker 1: out flight attendant on network television. That is stunning, series
Speaker 1: regular when you take into account that the majority of
Speaker 1: those flight attendants probably have to be gay. Right, But
Speaker 1: also I don't want to assume, well, I mean even
Speaker 1: just outside of that, I mean, that's huge, That's that's huge. Trailblazer, trailblazer.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure, like, I'm sure you made some
Speaker 1: sort of history with like even Zoolander, who knows, you know,
Speaker 1: like even like you know what Nathan's been done making history.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I meant to say. How was it?
Speaker 1: What was it like to work with Mila Djoviovic. First
Speaker 1: of all, she is a delight that she really is
Speaker 1: the best. When we got back when we did to
Speaker 1: fifteen years later, she said fuck in Rome on the
Speaker 1: set because I hadn't seen her until she did her stuff,
Speaker 1: and she was like, why do you look the same?
Speaker 1: Why do you look the same? Ben Stiller. Also, the
Speaker 1: first day of my shooting stopped all the production. It
Speaker 1: was like, Nathan Lee Graham is here today on the set,
Speaker 1: why then does he look the same? All right, let's
Speaker 1: get back to it, because because you know what, Ben Stiller,
Speaker 1: I love him has aged a little bit in the
Speaker 1: fifteen years since. Still handsome, very very handsome, and such
Speaker 1: a delight to work with. Really, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: sex symbol that no one really shouts out hot always done,
Speaker 1: especially like especially in Zoolner when you saw his body,
Speaker 1: well I think that was a fake body. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what, Tropics underfine, but by the time you got
Speaker 1: to Tropics Under, it was like whoa. There was like
Speaker 1: a scene where they're like doing like like a fake
Speaker 1: montage like the or whatever, and they cut to his
Speaker 1: body and it was absolutely ripped. And of course, of
Speaker 1: course that at the time was like whoa, I have
Speaker 1: a boner for Penn Stiller, but that could not possibly
Speaker 1: have been his body. Yeah, it was might even a
Speaker 1: comedic Owen Wilson's that was his real body, though, um
Speaker 1: I do okay, let's address this thing that Nathan's just
Speaker 1: brought up, because do you have what is your what
Speaker 1: is the regimen? What is what is keeping this intact?
Speaker 1: Because the children should know unless you don't want to
Speaker 1: give it away, which is which is fine. You can't
Speaker 1: give away all your secrets. Now, you can give away
Speaker 1: the recipe and leave one thing out there you go there,
Speaker 1: you go, and they have to figure it out on
Speaker 1: the that's a rule of culture number one. You can
Speaker 1: give away the recipe but leave one thing out. So
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't do anything special. Okay, it's uh,
Speaker 1: the majority of its genes. And I don't mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like gilt Gloria Vanderbilt jeans, she makes jeans. She used to.
Speaker 1: She gave some good genes to her son though m
Speaker 1: George Ash Gloria Vanderbilt George Ash looks anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll pull out the old references, thank you. So, So
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I just take care of myself. I
Speaker 1: do eat properly. Um, I work out three to four
Speaker 1: times a week. I have uh you know, I just
Speaker 1: I take care of my skin, you know, especially when
Speaker 1: you have to wear makeup on the set. I you know,
Speaker 1: I clean my face and everything with strict regiment morning
Speaker 1: and night. So, um, I do take care of myself.
Speaker 1: Well you have to, yeah, but part of its geans too.
Speaker 1: I mean, like if you got sucked up jeans. Sorry
Speaker 1: to quote Mila, fuck, why why why did fuck? That's
Speaker 1: so funny. I love imagining the fury that was. That
Speaker 1: was like in there because you know she can serve
Speaker 1: some fury. Yeah, and she's so amazing. She's an amazing
Speaker 1: mother and an amazing Musician's amazing that you forget it, Like, wait,
Speaker 1: was miss Christine and Julander two? Yes? She was? Okay,
Speaker 1: m I love miss Christine love Miss Christine. Yes, lovely,
Speaker 1: lovely lovely. You know, I get along with all of
Speaker 1: the people I've worked with because I'm the person that's
Speaker 1: not directly in conflict with anyone I'm cast is you
Speaker 1: know that person that is just not you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: which which really does just like behooved you just to
Speaker 1: like be that sort of because when you go on
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you do, you're then not stirring it up.
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm cast as the major villain in a in
Speaker 1: a in a picture, I'm always stirring it up. Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't have to star on anything. I just have
Speaker 1: to steal it the God. Now that's gotta be. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be a classic Nathan line. Now let's let's get
Speaker 1: into let's get into the let's get into the upbringing. Sure,
Speaker 1: now we're going to ask the question that we do
Speaker 1: ask every guest, and that is what is the culture
Speaker 1: that steered you in a cultural direction. It was when
Speaker 1: you said if you were Pocahonas, and there was the
Speaker 1: course that was culture, and there was another course that
Speaker 1: was just a certain other kind of culture. This is
Speaker 1: the course you you chose. There's a convoluted way to
Speaker 1: ask the question. Movies, music, television shows, book, hometown, hometown what? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound a little long winded, but my
Speaker 1: mom said to me because I was her first child
Speaker 1: and she was a young mother, married but young important.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, baskets around here, some of these
Speaker 1: single mothers out here roaming free? Right? Um? No, uh no,
Speaker 1: Hamilton's around here. How does the bastard, etcetera? Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you? The question didn't get answered in the musical.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You're going to start the musical with a question.
Speaker 1: Fucking answer it. Answer the question. That's a real culture.
Speaker 1: Number fourteen. You're gonna start the question musical with a question,
Speaker 1: and exactly, but you can't handle the truth. But yes,
Speaker 1: so so she would sing to me because she didn't
Speaker 1: get into the baby sort of talk or whatever when
Speaker 1: I was in her womb. So I sort of feel
Speaker 1: as though I was predisposed to be something sort of artistic.
Speaker 1: Then she said I was born and there was lots
Speaker 1: of lightning. I was born at one oh one a
Speaker 1: m On Monday, and she said that my feet came
Speaker 1: out feed first, feet first usually good. And then they
Speaker 1: were like, oh dear, what's happening, Push him back in,
Speaker 1: turn him around, and then use these things called for SIPs,
Speaker 1: which they don't guess, which they don't use anymore because
Speaker 1: because I was born in the Middle Ages. Um, oh
Speaker 1: my God, to pull my big gass head out. My
Speaker 1: mother says, my head now is the same size as
Speaker 1: it was when it came out. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, really now you got jokes? But anyway, I
Speaker 1: digress um. And then you know, they would PLoP me
Speaker 1: down in front of black and white films. So you know,
Speaker 1: this is before Turner classics and all of that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. And I used to conflate Broadway with movie musicals.
Speaker 1: I was sure. And then of course, uh, immediately I
Speaker 1: started working when I was six. Yeah, so you know, um,
Speaker 1: where was where was home? Where? Where where did you well?
Speaker 1: I was born in St. Louis, but then sort of
Speaker 1: raised in Los Angeles and then back and forth, right
Speaker 1: and so bad News Bears Go to Japan was like
Speaker 1: my first film, and then um, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: glorified extra and I had done Sanford and Son and
Speaker 1: all of these sort of things, you know stuff. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: and then my first show was The Whiz, the first
Speaker 1: national tour. I was a munchkin in Los Angeles because
Speaker 1: they would hire the kids locally, right, So, um, that's
Speaker 1: how it all sort of started. I started so early
Speaker 1: that I don't really know if anything different, and I've
Speaker 1: never done anything else, yes, yes, but that's how you
Speaker 1: know that it's what you're meant to do in a Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean some people can become disillusioned along the way, right.
Speaker 1: You certainly have lean times and you know, abundant times.
Speaker 1: But I've just been very fortunate knock on wood to
Speaker 1: have always worked. And this isn't what will be just
Speaker 1: knocked let everyone know at home called m D something
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's would, but
Speaker 1: it's like chips of woods right away, Well, there's would.
Speaker 1: Just I'm going to top on the wood now the
Speaker 1: perfect you guys heard that. There you go, So you're superstitious, exactly,
Speaker 1: thank you? You know, dose of salt um so that's
Speaker 1: really how sort of it it happened. And I was
Speaker 1: always inspired by by big, huge movie stars Betty Davis,
Speaker 1: Joan Crawford. The whole thing is anything sort of typically
Speaker 1: known as gay now, which just simultaneously means good, Yes,
Speaker 1: truly you know? Actually does you know? Just it's the
Speaker 1: same thing as good that. So did you watch Feud?
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, you were a fan, absolutely, and I
Speaker 1: knew all of that stuff before watching it. But I
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching the depiction, the depiction in the layout and
Speaker 1: how how the gals did. They did quite well, I thought.
Speaker 1: I think it's a shame that it comes out the
Speaker 1: same year as Big Little Lies, and everyone made like
Speaker 1: a competition between them, because naturally that is what happens
Speaker 1: at the end of the year when there is an awards,
Speaker 1: they do make it a competition to women again. But
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that Jessica Lang would give the performance
Speaker 1: that she gives him that last episode and go unrewarded
Speaker 1: like Nicole's amazing and right, I think deserves everything. But
Speaker 1: wonderful that last episode of Feud so good that was
Speaker 1: in the living room. So the whole conversation between all
Speaker 1: of them when when amazing. When Judy Davis goes legends
Speaker 1: all a mis had I loved. I loved all of that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's sort of how I got into it.
Speaker 1: And you know, not to be a cliche walking around,
Speaker 1: but it really is one of those things where I
Speaker 1: was just enamored with people who were really good at
Speaker 1: what they did, yes, and very early on, and then
Speaker 1: you know, subsequently got to work with some people that
Speaker 1: I idolized, you know, like Eartha Kid. Eartha, we were
Speaker 1: just talking about her performance as Issma other day, which
Speaker 1: she did pretty much up to her dying day. Wonderfully.
Speaker 1: She's no, it's a legend for all time, but it's
Speaker 1: just earth it like they're just there's just footage of her,
Speaker 1: like being interviewed. There's just like little snippets of her
Speaker 1: just like just in different settings, but just like saying
Speaker 1: these like just delicious things, iconic drops. Yes, Yes, that's
Speaker 1: that's the perfect description. Iconic drops. Like like just her
Speaker 1: about her not needing a man or and compromising and
Speaker 1: compromising yes, yes, yes, and she just like just has
Speaker 1: and she like laughs away questions. She'll be like she'd
Speaker 1: be like what like like just ridiculing the person who
Speaker 1: was asking her. Well, yeah, it's like how dare you exactly,
Speaker 1: It's like, why would you ask me that? But what
Speaker 1: a perfect way to be, like, you know what, you
Speaker 1: just asked me and we had a delightful time doing
Speaker 1: the Wild Party about you said you worked with her, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I mean, I mean, you talk about a
Speaker 1: wonderful Broadway cast. And I don't want to leave anyone out,
Speaker 1: but I'll start naming, you know, names, dear friends like
Speaker 1: Michael McElroy and Norm Lewis and Tania Penkins and Tony
Speaker 1: Collette and Mandy Patinkin and Leah Hawckey, Sally Murphy, Jane Summer,
Speaker 1: Hayes uh oh gosh, gosh, gosh. I'm leaving people out,
Speaker 1: and I hate that Brooks anymore, bur Um. Just a
Speaker 1: whole list of wonderful people, Miss Tony Collette, Mr. Mandy Patinkin,
Speaker 1: Yeah true, I mean, and Earth of course, of course,
Speaker 1: but you know Stewart's age, Adam Grouper. There's all coming
Speaker 1: to me there you go. I can't believe Tony Colett
Speaker 1: sometimes I think she should be one of those I'll
Speaker 1: just keep throwing please just as they come for the
Speaker 1: rest of the episode. I'll just talk about Tony Collette please,
Speaker 1: and you can chime in with more names with names, No,
Speaker 1: I mean, she's mean, what do you say? What do
Speaker 1: you say? Well, it's like we had John early on
Speaker 1: the show, and he beloved Toni Collette and he always
Speaker 1: does a wonderful impression of I wanted to make my
Speaker 1: mother proud, my mother proud. The sixth sense, Um, Nathan,
Speaker 1: is there um opportunity, enthusiasm, interest. I mean, this feels
Speaker 1: like such an obvious question to return to the theater
Speaker 1: at some please, I never want to leave it, but
Speaker 1: you're in l A now. Well I am, but you
Speaker 1: know you have time off and you always prepare to
Speaker 1: do things that you can't really if you are a
Speaker 1: serious person, um, a serious artist, you can't really ever
Speaker 1: leave anything, especially if we're when I come back to it,
Speaker 1: I just saw o'dolly and you and uh and Bernadette's
Speaker 1: back in you know, on Broadway, and Victor Garber is
Speaker 1: there as well. These are people who do tons of
Speaker 1: television as well, so you know, but they're back on
Speaker 1: stage and you can't if you really want to, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope to be ubiquitous in that kind of way.
Speaker 1: Where you just keep keep it, keep it going. I
Speaker 1: think you're already there. I think I think it's just
Speaker 1: about scaling that up. I have a question. So you
Speaker 1: said you've been doing it since you were very, very young,
Speaker 1: and it's always been a part of your life. Was
Speaker 1: there ever a moment where you were like, you know what,
Speaker 1: let me set this to the side for a second
Speaker 1: and just see if I have another pass or anything
Speaker 1: or not at all, not at all. And I thought
Speaker 1: about it, but I never did it, and then it
Speaker 1: got to be too late. Well at that where I
Speaker 1: became such a weirdo. Um, you know, such a specialized
Speaker 1: person that my lens of seeing anything was always through
Speaker 1: that sort of artist lens. And uh so really I'm
Speaker 1: not suited to anything to do any thing else. I
Speaker 1: feel that way as well. Yeah, if anyone asked me
Speaker 1: to ever do anything besides sit here and talk, I
Speaker 1: would vomit. Yeah. I mean, you know, I love to
Speaker 1: talk on occasion, but I mean that's also performative, right,
Speaker 1: And I had to have something to talk about. So
Speaker 1: what the means I have to keep working? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got to get those projects to be able to talk
Speaker 1: to do it. You gotta just do it, you know.
Speaker 1: I hope this is the same for the both of you,
Speaker 1: But I would. I would talk to anyone in this room,
Speaker 1: even if we didn't have jobs, even if we weren't working,
Speaker 1: I would talk to any of you in the room.
Speaker 1: I think I'll talk to you absolutely, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: HPJ just fanned himself and put it only his fingers
Speaker 1: on his chest, which where that's where, Which means he's
Speaker 1: been hanging out of us too much, that he gave
Speaker 1: himself too fans and then placed his hand on his
Speaker 1: chest like he was Bibi Sahara Bene in that one
Speaker 1: music video. She was the first winner, Yes, the first winner.
Speaker 1: Do you watch True Balls Drag Race? Yes, it's hey
Speaker 1: if you don't, no, no, no, I do, but I
Speaker 1: do for the papers. I always say for the papers. No,
Speaker 1: of course, I've had a friend on every episode, you know,
Speaker 1: at least one person. You mean, like in terms of
Speaker 1: the guest judges are like the queens both So um,
Speaker 1: I hope to be a guest judge on that show.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're fabulous and I adore them all.
Speaker 1: And I think what ru is doing is so important,
Speaker 1: you know, just bringing bringing it to the children and
Speaker 1: bring it to all the children. I am. I would
Speaker 1: be remiss. My publicist would not be pleased if I
Speaker 1: did not mention Dan n LG NYC Le Jazz Classic.
Speaker 1: That's the new jazz album that I'm working on this
Speaker 1: year and it will be completed hopefully by the end.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this album. But we love that.
Speaker 1: Is this true that you are technically a Grammy winning artists?
Speaker 1: I am? Do you have no because when you're part
Speaker 1: of nine soloists, even though I did ten numbers have
Speaker 1: to pay for it. You have to pay for it,
Speaker 1: so I um, and I technically have to. We won
Speaker 1: seven for Best Classical Album two thousand five, So um,
Speaker 1: it's still you know, it's there for me there. I
Speaker 1: just haven't bothered to do it. Sure, But about that too,
Speaker 1: that you have to pay for the actual statute, which
Speaker 1: was such because it goes to the composer William Bocum
Speaker 1: for the this is the songs of instance and of experience, Um,
Speaker 1: William Blake we put to music, and uh it's very
Speaker 1: heavy and wonderful, like this three hour cantata oratorio sort
Speaker 1: of thing. My god, and I was just privileged enough
Speaker 1: to be a part of it with you. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you're I mean, you're you're, you're, You've got the
Speaker 1: G and he got ye is the only one you
Speaker 1: have thus far. I gotta get I got the G.
Speaker 1: I gotta get. The T is going to happen, Alec
Speaker 1: Mathis says, and the Emmy goes to I said, listen, bitch,
Speaker 1: if that happens, you're going to go to the ceremony
Speaker 1: with me. Why did I say that? Because other people
Speaker 1: were like, wait a minute, you better have a plus
Speaker 1: two then. But it was so kind of him. I
Speaker 1: adore a like math But he's so talented. He's the
Speaker 1: hero of mine. You know, I've loved him four thousand years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's just the best. He is the best,
Speaker 1: and he's so generous and so supportive and lovely and
Speaker 1: just super talented. You wouldn't you wouldn't think anything least.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is like Kim and that he you
Speaker 1: see them killing the jokes and you're like, that's a
Speaker 1: nice person too. But with Alec it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: and you know this visibility blah blah blah, but it's
Speaker 1: like you know, you weren't seeing any still aren't. You
Speaker 1: weren't seeing like a queer Asian person. You weren't, and
Speaker 1: you still don't see enough of them, and so well, listen,
Speaker 1: you don't see enough of anybody. I believe. Now let's
Speaker 1: get a little political. Believe that, um, you know, there
Speaker 1: should be some sort of gay representative in everything, because
Speaker 1: there is. Yes, I mean, I was just lost here
Speaker 1: on Pearl Street by myself, the gay lost on Pearl Street,
Speaker 1: and there's one, and you represented them so well. Set
Speaker 1: you understand, how does that presents a queer narrative? Pearl
Speaker 1: Street presents a queer expertise, the orientational uh disarray. There's
Speaker 1: one Uh, oh my god, this is a uh proximity
Speaker 1: to water. There you go, there's number two, number three
Speaker 1: cobble stones. Absolutely, thank you. So I just think that
Speaker 1: we should be everywhere in every story. It's not like,
Speaker 1: oh he's gay. No, it's like, no, this is another person,
Speaker 1: This is another narrative, This is another fabric of the
Speaker 1: human existence. Yes, there was one show that I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe didn't have a gay character because it was such
Speaker 1: a gay show. Now I'm now I don't know it,
Speaker 1: but I like even like I don't know there's some
Speaker 1: there's some shows out there where I'm like, where is
Speaker 1: the gay here? Like I just and you don't see it.
Speaker 1: That could literally be any show. Well, I started doing
Speaker 1: those roles and wanting to have those roles before in
Speaker 1: even some of my wonderful gay colleagues did. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't about just you know, banging people over the head.
Speaker 1: It was like, no, Um, these roles are being written
Speaker 1: and straight people are taking them in winning awards, So
Speaker 1: why don't you want to do them? Why do you
Speaker 1: feel like you have to be validated by only doing
Speaker 1: straight roles straight? None of my straight actor friends go
Speaker 1: around and say, oh, I'm so sick of playing straight roles.
Speaker 1: There you go. Can I tell you what grinds my
Speaker 1: fucking gears off is when people are saying that Timothy
Speaker 1: Shalomy's character Eliot and Call Me by your Name is bisexual. No, bitch,
Speaker 1: that is gay, man. I think it's it's based on
Speaker 1: the book that he is he bisexual in the book
Speaker 1: he has in the book because in the ending, which
Speaker 1: is not included in the which is not depicted in
Speaker 1: the movie, Um, you know both of them have future
Speaker 1: relationships with men and women. So on some technical level. Okay,
Speaker 1: in that movie, he has a straight experience and is gay.
Speaker 1: Can tell me Elio like the pizza, Elio's pizza, which
Speaker 1: no one's talking about, which is so great. The no
Speaker 1: one's talking about the fact that Elliot was named after
Speaker 1: the pizza Italian. Listen, it's square. No, it's not square,
Speaker 1: it's it's rect. You can come into a square, crispy bottom, beautiful.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go right past that, really really good. I
Speaker 1: was going to go in now you know what, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go past. I just got it. I just got it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: it took me along. I was on a lagged on
Speaker 1: that show to call it back to Elliot. But listen,
Speaker 1: he's not buying that movie. He has a straight experience,
Speaker 1: like we all do. We all suffer through that and
Speaker 1: then we get together. I haven't. I haven't really gold
Speaker 1: gold gold. We're not platinum in terms of in terms
Speaker 1: of sex, platinums are hard. Platinum are c sections these
Speaker 1: actions in touched to vagina. In terms of vagina, I've
Speaker 1: never touched. I've never seen one, even with my own eyes.
Speaker 1: I have a joke about this, but I can't say
Speaker 1: it on the air. Oh well, and then you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll let these boys leave the room. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to touch on something, um because you you
Speaker 1: you just talked about you know, just you know, having
Speaker 1: that representation or just having gay actors play gay roles.
Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about and ask you
Speaker 1: about your experience with being an actor, a gay actor, um,
Speaker 1: at a time when diversity wasn't this buzzword where it
Speaker 1: wasn't like this thing of like, oh this is actually desirable,
Speaker 1: where it was actually so institutionally challenging for you to
Speaker 1: actually get book these roles and play these things. Like
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you square that? Now? Like is that?
Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously positive, but like was it? It
Speaker 1: was difficult because I would go in for gay roles
Speaker 1: and they would say I wasn't gay enough because they
Speaker 1: didn't know any gay people like me sort of didn't
Speaker 1: you know, have come in with a pink boa and
Speaker 1: an immediate limp wrist and you know, over the top
Speaker 1: and sort of Paul Lynn, which I had no problem
Speaker 1: with either, but I was like, no, we're just really
Speaker 1: sort of regular normal people. I said. I can be
Speaker 1: elegant at times, but you know, um, it was hard
Speaker 1: for me to get a role. And the first gay
Speaker 1: role that I received was The Wild Party and two
Speaker 1: thousand wow. And then how long had you been auditioning
Speaker 1: for screen stuff? Um? I never really wanted to do
Speaker 1: to film or TV, so it had happened, but it
Speaker 1: just happened. And then of course even on stage though
Speaker 1: it was, it was never sort of an overtly gay
Speaker 1: roll nothing, And I had been working, so you know,
Speaker 1: it was sort of maybe flamboyant or over the top
Speaker 1: or charismatic. It's so funny when they put a word
Speaker 1: in there that they doesn't when they think isn't like
Speaker 1: one thing, go in for a lot of assistance and
Speaker 1: I get officious a lot, yes, like officious, Um, well dressed,
Speaker 1: we said on the show, like fastidiousious. We're seeing a
Speaker 1: lot you know, dapper, you know, fopish. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: you know what they want. But sometimes, like when when
Speaker 1: they just will say gay, it's interesting to go into
Speaker 1: the room and see what else people have prepared, because
Speaker 1: some people will come in with this sort of caricature
Speaker 1: and it can be confusing because you don't know who's
Speaker 1: casting it. Maybe they do want the caricature, or maybe
Speaker 1: they do want When I read gay. I'm like, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll just go in as myself and that will be
Speaker 1: enough because I'm gay. But it's confusing because it's like,
Speaker 1: from a casting standpoint, what do they want? How can
Speaker 1: I represent this? Um? Like with integrity. It's very kind
Speaker 1: of it starts. It starts with the material. If the
Speaker 1: material is good, Um, that's all I really actually care about.
Speaker 1: If the writing is good, that's where you start, and
Speaker 1: then you get in You can get into the minutia
Speaker 1: of personality acting, you know, but just ask John Wayne
Speaker 1: what that's about, you know, or any major star you
Speaker 1: can think of. Uh, very rarely do you have a
Speaker 1: Meryl Streep role and becomes that person so intently that
Speaker 1: you can't believe that she played someone else at some
Speaker 1: point exactly, you know. And I don't mean that as
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I just mean that's not as it's
Speaker 1: not it's not normal. It's not normal. And also it's
Speaker 1: like sort of not in vogue now, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. There's there's not a lot of actors you
Speaker 1: can say besides Meryl, And there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: like I think people like for example, like say Margot
Speaker 1: Robbie's age that do the chameleon thing. And that's why
Speaker 1: when everyone's like, like, somebody asked the question recently, who's
Speaker 1: the next who's the Meryl of like our generation? And
Speaker 1: someone said cre Sharon, And I'm like that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's close. But really it's like nowadays, because you need
Speaker 1: like a personal brand and everything, you don't see a
Speaker 1: lot of people stepping in and out of things and
Speaker 1: disappearing because it's important that we're also able to like
Speaker 1: see them slay it on a talk show. You know,
Speaker 1: someone that says Jennifer Lawrence is the next Meryl. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: there's a big difference there. Yeah. Yeah, although I did
Speaker 1: see that she'll be playing a Russian woman, so that
Speaker 1: I saw that that's gonna be fascinating. Yes, absolutely, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I think what happens with that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: with the Russian thing is people leave out their voices,
Speaker 1: and a voice is a part of the character that
Speaker 1: you're developing, and so I just want to put that
Speaker 1: out there. Sure, they're first taking the voice for the accent,
Speaker 1: complete your character with the voice, you have to follow through. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's very true. And I never thought about that
Speaker 1: until it and when you can't figure out why you're
Speaker 1: not loving someone's performance, it's usually their voice. Oh can
Speaker 1: I tell you? Um? Sometimes with Kate Winslet, sometimes I
Speaker 1: think she's usually brilliant, but sometimes when her American accent
Speaker 1: seems extra American, I'm always like, what's going on? Like,
Speaker 1: I think she's better when she speaks in some sort
Speaker 1: of European dialect. And I read that English and Australian
Speaker 1: actors have a specifically hard time with the American accent
Speaker 1: because of the rs like they speak. The ohs are
Speaker 1: like that, and then the R is like a hard thing.
Speaker 1: So I can really hear them struggling to do that.
Speaker 1: Just one thing that kind of distracts me. And also,
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts clearly have the same vocal
Speaker 1: coach because they have the same voice when they do
Speaker 1: American roles. Maybe there's only one in Perth, maybe there's
Speaker 1: only one on the on the West coast about Australia.
Speaker 1: But I love her though, we love we love you, Perth,
Speaker 1: all of our listeners in Perth, We're coming, We're coming.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, in Perth, It's coming live
Speaker 1: in two There you go, Perth. I would love to visit.
Speaker 1: Perth is the only place in Australia have not had
Speaker 1: the privilege of going to. But you've been everywhere else,
Speaker 1: bit shut up, Yes, I haven't been to the outback.
Speaker 1: You ho. Now we just made a left turn. I
Speaker 1: just don't like lies, lies and fairy tales, lies and
Speaker 1: fairy tales, the bow and Yang story. Fine, I own
Speaker 1: up to my embellishment. Listen, you've got to do it
Speaker 1: when you when you're talking like you're Elizabeth Hasselbeck herself
Speaker 1: been to the Australian Outback. Now, legs and shoulders though,
Speaker 1: the last thing to go on a woman, and it's legs. Now,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is fantastic. Now, okay, this sounds
Speaker 1: like it's I've been. I've been prefacing all my questions,
Speaker 1: but this is a little yeah, stop doing that something
Speaker 1: at culture. Does you know what Nathan Annasky straight please?
Speaker 1: Is this is Eli to Vegas? Does it feel like
Speaker 1: a reunion with Will I? Maybe you're not seeing him
Speaker 1: every day on set, but at least, well, this is
Speaker 1: how it feels. It feels as though the tonality of
Speaker 1: the show is so him, and that is so special
Speaker 1: to me because it just feels like home. You know
Speaker 1: what I get as humor, and so because it's close
Speaker 1: to mine as far as this genre is concerned. And
Speaker 1: I love the fact that it's so fast paced that
Speaker 1: you actually have to watch it twice so um, which
Speaker 1: is great because you can go back and like, you know,
Speaker 1: did they say that? Oh, they did say that? So
Speaker 1: you know it's it's great. And apparently I'm putting the
Speaker 1: gift game. You are full blast, you've been you know,
Speaker 1: I had no idea, but then you know, the children
Speaker 1: are telling me now that children know that I'm full
Speaker 1: on gift. But it's it's the face. It's it's the face.
Speaker 1: It's the body. It's face face, body face. Give them face,
Speaker 1: body face. And the Bbi Sahara. We're very into Bishara
Speaker 1: and her music. Suns you are. We're providing the material.
Speaker 1: So you should be very very happy. And there is
Speaker 1: no better line. There's no better interaction in due Lander
Speaker 1: than the one you have after the coffee is the
Speaker 1: latte the famulas that was fourteen spills and the reaction
Speaker 1: is the same because if it's cold or hot, it's
Speaker 1: the same on screen. Sure, And I remember been being
Speaker 1: rather you know, perplexed about the coffee not showing up
Speaker 1: on the T shirt, and he said, this is the
Speaker 1: gayest T shirt in the world because we were in
Speaker 1: to exist, and that's when two exists just came out, right.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't time enough because it had to be
Speaker 1: you know, I have a nice I can't believe I
Speaker 1: was going to say I have a nice chest. I
Speaker 1: have defined chest. Yes, a defined chest is what I
Speaker 1: meant to say. I have a definedest. So so we
Speaker 1: need the shirt to sort of they come away from
Speaker 1: the crevice, which I think it did a good job of.
Speaker 1: But what they had to do was they had to
Speaker 1: cut it on the sides and so her up because
Speaker 1: we try to do it with a little clamp, but
Speaker 1: it was pulling in the wrong spot, right. So movie magic,
Speaker 1: that's what they call that. Movie magic. We'll be learning
Speaker 1: about that when we go to Universal Studio. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean we and that was b roll. That wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to be. We were doing that for Ben's benefits. A plus.
Speaker 1: If that wasn't in the movie, I mean, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: know because we would never have seen it. But that
Speaker 1: would have been a real loss loss cinema. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's an inherently queer moment. Oh yes, it's rippled out.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those moments that you were watching.
Speaker 1: I mean, Nathan's laughing, but it's true. It's very gay
Speaker 1: and thank god. And also that's how I know I
Speaker 1: love will fare All so deeply. Because of course, then
Speaker 1: he became like sort of the poster child for like
Speaker 1: fifteen year old high school kids being like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Santiago whales vagina dude. But like, no, what they don't
Speaker 1: understand is there was the phony latte Phlmy latte makes
Speaker 1: me bloated and gassy. Yes, yes, I mean farty. My
Speaker 1: mistakes are your mistake. Indeed, I mean, come on, my mistakes, Jacobin.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We're in the presence of you, right, we
Speaker 1: have to be so and and just originating the pronunciation,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so much too well, that's the
Speaker 1: when I looked at it, I said, that's the way
Speaker 1: it sounds, Jacot, even hearing you saying, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I mean and we did have to cut because there's
Speaker 1: too much laughter. After I first said, I was like,
Speaker 1: what is someone laughing about? Because that's actually that's why
Speaker 1: I actually thought it would sound. How is it actually
Speaker 1: how is it supposed to be pronounced? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I bet no one to, you know, but I said,
Speaker 1: jacobtan you know, I guess it didn't have to be
Speaker 1: sort of French on the on the front side of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have been Jacobin. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like yoakum or jokum. Yeah yeah, yeah. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Jacob. But I thought he's a designer,
Speaker 1: and he's trying to be, you know, a fancy designer
Speaker 1: even though he's only done the piano tie, and so
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, pump him up. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: jac beautiful. That actually happened one other time in cinema history.
Speaker 1: Alicia Silverstone instead of Haitians said Haitians, and they went
Speaker 1: to correct her, and Amy Heckling, the director, was like,
Speaker 1: don't you dare she will say Haitians each time, and
Speaker 1: it will be will be in the movie. Absolutely Haiti's
Speaker 1: certainly party with the Haitians. So good experienced, one of
Speaker 1: the best ever. I think Jacobin manages edges it out
Speaker 1: just I don't think I have two more favorite movies
Speaker 1: than Zoolander and Clueless. And that says everything. You know.
Speaker 1: You know the night we were shooting that particular scene
Speaker 1: as well, um was right around the time that al
Speaker 1: Gore had one and Bush had lost, and by the
Speaker 1: time we finished it, switched has has I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: told this before, but this is this is huge. Had
Speaker 1: to be seared into your memory whenever I was in
Speaker 1: the city at that time. Oh my god, this has
Speaker 1: to be in some movie trivia, because we were all
Speaker 1: watching it once we started that that was a very
Speaker 1: long day. I remember it being over like twelve fourteen
Speaker 1: hours and he was winning and at one floor and
Speaker 1: then nonsense and just to go back to the wardrobe
Speaker 1: and I will say, and you and you still do
Speaker 1: but the body was snatched. They snatch, snatch, snatched, and
Speaker 1: it was like that. I was like that that guy
Speaker 1: so funny and and looking at him, wow and fashion icon.
Speaker 1: What he's saying by looking at him, Wow? Is he
Speaker 1: wanted you? You yea great news. This makes me so happy.
Speaker 1: I hope this is I hope this makes you well.
Speaker 1: I actually recently we always we we recently met Actually
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell, did you really watch his snl that It
Speaker 1: was a fantastic episode and I actually was in the
Speaker 1: writer's room because our dear friend Sudie Green is a
Speaker 1: writer on the show, and I was there for it,
Speaker 1: and I was I ran into our friend. His name
Speaker 1: is James Anderson, writer on SNL for many years, and
Speaker 1: I told him, Um, he wrote a sketch series called
Speaker 1: Deep House Dish and he worked. Remember. Yes, So that
Speaker 1: like changed my life in terms of knowing that people
Speaker 1: got my sense of humor. Like I was, I can
Speaker 1: keep going on existing in the world because someone gets it.
Speaker 1: That to me was like that your entire performance in
Speaker 1: that movie. I was like, oh my god, Yes, God,
Speaker 1: that's like a formative piece, you know. So we love
Speaker 1: telling you that. I appreciate it very much for for
Speaker 1: everything you've done and continue to do with Elia Vegas. Fantastic.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to keep watching it. Just it's we're
Speaker 1: preempted tomorrow night, I believe because of another comedy at
Speaker 1: the White House. Yeah, that comedy. Can you even fathom
Speaker 1: the nonsense that is Omarosa Managult going on Celebrity Big
Speaker 1: Brother within a month of leaving the White House. It's
Speaker 1: truly but it goes beyond irony. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what the phrases. It's not it's not funny, it's not
Speaker 1: even like it's like, I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic or something. It's it's it's just I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's beyond, it's beyond. And also it's like
Speaker 1: you see her name, and then the rest of the
Speaker 1: cast is like, oh my god, there's not even anyone
Speaker 1: here like that's going to understand a word of what's
Speaker 1: going on. It's like a Lance Bass who I don't have.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's lovely and very intelligent. He
Speaker 1: might be, and I don't know, but he should stay away.
Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't In any case, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was like a secret close friend. No God, I mean
Speaker 1: not no, no God, but no lancing to on TV?
Speaker 1: He does on the TV? I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think he probably watches likes friends have TVs, so
Speaker 1: so let's lances on TV. Unfortunately, Lance's friends are every
Speaker 1: gay in l A. We have this back and I
Speaker 1: love the what is that the thing he did? The race?
Speaker 1: He did amazing race? No, not the the in France?
Speaker 1: What's it what's it called? Yes? I love the Twitter France.
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong. Yes, absolutely, the other lance. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: which one were we talking about? I conflated them and
Speaker 1: you know what, you know why because they're both blond. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And this actually, let's let you get away with Scott
Speaker 1: free because you've got them. I got them confused. I
Speaker 1: had door Lands bass. Here is he affiliated with the
Speaker 1: bass shoes? Absolutely? All right, he must be. Now lend
Speaker 1: the bass guitar and then the bass and the bass fish.
Speaker 1: Oh right, he was part of the band. The band
Speaker 1: he actually was, interestingly enough, the bass and in sync.
Speaker 1: And his last name is bass. That's irony. That's irony.
Speaker 1: There is no conflating words. Now let's move on to
Speaker 1: our segment, our ending segment. I don't think which Nathan
Speaker 1: has come so prepared for. I'm prepared. We're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to get to all of them, so
Speaker 1: so what I'm just going to read them off. I
Speaker 1: think you should read them off and then and then
Speaker 1: whichever one you feel you connect with the most in
Speaker 1: this moment, that's what the one or you feel connected with.
Speaker 1: And we already got one on. So my thing is,
Speaker 1: if you get in front of me, either on the
Speaker 1: road or walking, you have to go faster. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're listening to music on your headphones, you should be
Speaker 1: the only one hearing that music. It's a big I'm
Speaker 1: guilty of being on the other side of that. I'll
Speaker 1: just leave this out there. Too much riffing, I'm guilty
Speaker 1: of that. Too much riffing is not good, just not good. Um,
Speaker 1: not knowing what you want when you get to the counter,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yes, there's the passion. Okay, we already went
Speaker 1: over both sides, and then I have one here that's
Speaker 1: really sort of minutia. But but it's a explaining something
Speaker 1: that's obvious. More than once. It drives me. It drives
Speaker 1: me insane. I think I think I want to hear
Speaker 1: your I don't think so, honey, on too much riffing.
Speaker 1: I sort of want to hear it about the counter, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a I think the reason why I want to
Speaker 1: hear mine is because and I think listeners will agree
Speaker 1: with me. It's more, Um, you know you like it
Speaker 1: because it has to do with you. I like this
Speaker 1: mother because you are stupid. It's a slice of life,
Speaker 1: and it's everyone can relate to. Oh what, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna hear another one about how someone was a problem
Speaker 1: in a restaurant. Tail us all this time, I want
Speaker 1: to all this time. You should never start that song
Speaker 1: off with riffing. So here's to start us. First of all,
Speaker 1: a riff or amanti or anything, you know, something like
Speaker 1: this a grace note. They happen as a as a
Speaker 1: form of musical emotion. They have to come from somewhere.
Speaker 1: So you can't really do a riff at the top
Speaker 1: of a fucking song unless it's so specific. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like Barbro where we were, Yeah, where are
Speaker 1: you riffing? There? You go, Okay, don't want to riff
Speaker 1: about you know what? I think? Fine, I will concede
Speaker 1: and let you. Let let Nathan do the one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna jump in there on that counter though, Well, we'll
Speaker 1: come a little what you know, what you can You
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want with your time. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. It's rule number sixty three culture. You
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want with your time. But you
Speaker 1: want to shake it up, you want to do you
Speaker 1: want to do at the viti and you could do
Speaker 1: whatever you need. You definitely don't riff that. You get
Speaker 1: when you get to the front of the counter not
Speaker 1: knowing what you want that's why don't you know what
Speaker 1: you want? Do you know what you want? It's like,
Speaker 1: what do I want to hold that I'm here? Dead?
Speaker 1: Your dad? Your dad? Okay, So especially at the movie theater,
Speaker 1: especially at the cinema, you mean to tell me you
Speaker 1: don't know what movie you want to see? You That's
Speaker 1: what I had to assume you were going to say.
Speaker 1: Was when they go up to the snacks concessions, to
Speaker 1: go up to the box office and not know which flick,
Speaker 1: It's like, what is happening? What is I want them
Speaker 1: to spontaneously combust? When they also, they're all so different
Speaker 1: at any given point of time. You're never gonna see
Speaker 1: X Men and Spider Man at the same thing. So
Speaker 1: if when you're getting married you choose choose, this is
Speaker 1: not selfie choice. It's not self choice choice. Guess what, bitch,
Speaker 1: it's not dead to the fact you can see it later.
Speaker 1: So this is a communal I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: And I'm loving them, loving it. So let's have let's
Speaker 1: let's have Maco or I can go first. I'll go first.
Speaker 1: So we'll do one minute each on our topics and
Speaker 1: then we will throw it to Nathan Will you put
Speaker 1: me on the clock. So this is Matt rob hold on,
Speaker 1: I said I had to right, yes, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I know I have a bad memory nowadays. You want
Speaker 1: me to go first, No, no, I'll go first. I
Speaker 1: know which one I want to do. Okay, this is Matt.
Speaker 1: So you work in the phrase I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: is as much as you can this is Matt Rodgers
Speaker 1: is I don't think so many as time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. When I watch an award
Speaker 1: show and it's as if there's only one movie or
Speaker 1: one song or one album that came out that whole
Speaker 1: motherfucking year. Bruno Mars and his little ass. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something magic. Sure, when I first heard it
Speaker 1: famously on a party boat, I did gag, and I
Speaker 1: shook my kind of a little bit for a white
Speaker 1: point kind of big ass, and I sort of enjoyed myself.
Speaker 1: But if I had known, bitch by the end of
Speaker 1: the year that it was gonna take album record, sorry
Speaker 1: performance bitch, I would say I would eat my hats because,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, there's no way that it's
Speaker 1: the best written song and best performance song and best
Speaker 1: produced song in the whole year and also happens to
Speaker 1: be on the best album of the year. No, we
Speaker 1: need to spread the wealth, bitch, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to open up this Oscar's conversation and then see the
Speaker 1: Shape of Water wins every motherfucking thing, because I'll be
Speaker 1: very upset. Bodak Yellow should have won something because it's
Speaker 1: the only song in the club that will have you
Speaker 1: wind it at the end. Fuck. These award shows then
Speaker 1: only give out to one thing that's one minute, that's
Speaker 1: my best one and I've done in months. Oh my goodness, inspired, inspired,
Speaker 1: and you know what's you know what's uninspired? Award shows
Speaker 1: that only give awards to one thing? Thank you. That's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. Diversifications, diversify it up. Also, I want to
Speaker 1: say one more thing about the Grammys. How dare they?
Speaker 1: And I said months ago, I said if ed Shearon
Speaker 1: beats Miss Kelly, Miss Pink, Miss Gaga and Miss Kesha
Speaker 1: for that Pop Local Performance Award. The gaze we stats
Speaker 1: when we stormed the castle, And what has happened? What
Speaker 1: has occurred? A song that was bit a little bit
Speaker 1: by the way by with the three girls left Eye
Speaker 1: and Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Kenny Burris has a songwriting credit.
Speaker 1: I don't want no scrubs. You know what else? I
Speaker 1: don't want no Ed Sheeran showing up on my television
Speaker 1: taking award from All My Girls dance leaving just as
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Dirty Gina alright, So that's my
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Also, it's kind of kind
Speaker 1: of strange that we're awarding we're awarding a song that
Speaker 1: says I'm in love with the shape of you, that
Speaker 1: I gratifies a woman's body in this year, the shape
Speaker 1: of water there you go, shape of Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what that is a sign that's gonna win. Fuck right,
Speaker 1: that's all right, Okay, as Mila one said, fuck use
Speaker 1: on the clock, we're on the closs alright. I just
Speaker 1: noticed that there's two iconic Mila's jec and with that,
Speaker 1: with that, I don't think, so, honey, is time starts now?
Speaker 1: I don't think, so, honey. Lost Culturesta's listeners who keep
Speaker 1: telling Matt and I did comment on Britney Spears' Instagram
Speaker 1: and it's not we have no onus to do this.
Speaker 1: It's too sad, it's too tragic. It's just as sad
Speaker 1: as Omarrossa going on celebrity big brother, don't make us
Speaker 1: do this. It's you know what, We love you so much.
Speaker 1: We will do anything for you, but except for comment
Speaker 1: on Britney Spears's Instagram negatively, negatively, because we're not going
Speaker 1: to do that, you know. And there's Instagram and it's
Speaker 1: and it's she's having fun, she's having fun, she's doing
Speaker 1: a lot. We love it. But people are just telling
Speaker 1: us to be snarky about it, and we're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's got our job. We we don't We don't
Speaker 1: want to drag people down. We don't want to. You know,
Speaker 1: you are people who we don't do that here, very
Speaker 1: positive know what this is, what it is, it's punching down.
Speaker 1: So I don't think so many people who want us
Speaker 1: to punch down, because that's not what we do here, honey.
Speaker 1: Lots culture, we lift up, we punch up, We do
Speaker 1: things up honey, and it's up we go, it's up
Speaker 1: we go. And I have to say, I absolutely concur
Speaker 1: if you think you're going to tune into this podcast
Speaker 1: and here's something mean about someone who you know has
Speaker 1: been through it and you know, maybe can't speak for herself.
Speaker 1: And defend herself. You're not gonna hear it here, honey,
Speaker 1: You're only gonna hear snark about mask drag performers at
Speaker 1: Gaffron and the like, because they are in control. They
Speaker 1: are there. You go. So, Nathan, we've arrived. Have you
Speaker 1: reached any clarity about what you want to speak on? More?
Speaker 1: The rift thing? The counter? I think, I mean, we
Speaker 1: we we we we talked about what I really have
Speaker 1: a thing about already. But if if I must go on,
Speaker 1: you must, I think we should just put the clock
Speaker 1: on and see where the funk happens. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: Should we do that? Well, listen, here, here's the thing
Speaker 1: about here's the thing about it. Uh, there are a
Speaker 1: couple of things that get on my nerves. First of all,
Speaker 1: we'll just go down the list. Um. The getting in
Speaker 1: front of me really does bug me because it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not walking fast enough. I know, I don't. Think,
Speaker 1: so honey, I walk fast enough. I'm gonna start the timer.
Speaker 1: Here we go go. Think so honey, I walk fast enough.
Speaker 1: But if you think you're gonna get your little butt
Speaker 1: in front of me and then walk slower, what is
Speaker 1: that all about? Especially? On these streets, on these New
Speaker 1: York City streets. No one's coming from me on these
Speaker 1: New York City streets along with my bag, which it
Speaker 1: works at some sort of rudder, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and it keeps me going. It keeps me going. So
Speaker 1: I purposely walked just slow enough so they can't go around. So,
Speaker 1: you know what, honey, I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 1: think so on the road either. I don't think so
Speaker 1: on the road either. You're gonna get in front of me,
Speaker 1: and I'm already in the middle lane. I'm in the
Speaker 1: middle lane. So if you really want to go that fast,
Speaker 1: get in the fast lane. Get I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get in front of me, Get in front
Speaker 1: of me and go fast, not slow. Don't slow it down.
Speaker 1: Oh now I'm front I'm in front of him. Like
Speaker 1: some sort of psychological thing you want to get in
Speaker 1: front of me ain't gonna happen. So that's how that's
Speaker 1: this is the impact that will have. No one will
Speaker 1: ever do that again. No one will ever get to
Speaker 1: anyone at least say hello, and guess what, at least
Speaker 1: say hello before you fuck me up. Exactly breaking my stride.
Speaker 1: Nobody gonna break in my stride. Me down, Oh no,
Speaker 1: I got to keep the mood and they gotta keep up.
Speaker 1: Come on placement, no riffing, there no just a clear note.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. Here's the t My
Speaker 1: head is hot. We because we have un you know,
Speaker 1: we know that we have listeners. We have seen the diagnostics.
Speaker 1: I think is the word. We know that you're in analytics. Analytics. Sure,
Speaker 1: I don't know my words, but I do know my heart,
Speaker 1: my famous saying, UM, I know we have people listening
Speaker 1: here in San Francisco. I know Los Ange that you
Speaker 1: guys listen. I know we have some people in our
Speaker 1: Lando they're listening. And I know you're on the open road.
Speaker 1: I know this is not a situation like New York
Speaker 1: City where you don't think this applies to you. We'll
Speaker 1: guess what, bitch, We're talking to everyone that gets behind
Speaker 1: the wheel of a car and tries it. Don't don't
Speaker 1: try it. Don't especially if I'm in the middle. If
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of lanes. The thing is that.
Speaker 1: And you know what, if I'm going by the speed
Speaker 1: limit rules and you have an issue, an issue with that,
Speaker 1: take your ass to the fast Out, Go to the
Speaker 1: fast Lane, Get Out, Get Out, directed by Jordan Peel,
Speaker 1: starring Betty Gabriel starring Betty Gabriel of an Oscar. And
Speaker 1: here's my thing. Don't you understand satire? Some people who
Speaker 1: come to me and say, I don't gotta that's enough.
Speaker 1: That's another I don't think that's It's like, it's a satire.
Speaker 1: What's a satire? Then read a book, read a book.
Speaker 1: It's not unsebtlek read a book. B It's actually a
Speaker 1: real member forty eight culture reading a book. Bitch. Nathan
Speaker 1: gets it. Nathan, Nathan's joining us on. This is a episode,
Speaker 1: and this is an episode. Read a book, bitch, read
Speaker 1: a book. Bitch read book. This so great, this is
Speaker 1: this is one of my favorites, ultimate favorite. Do you
Speaker 1: think absolutely I've had to be a double L and
Speaker 1: read book. You don't know what that means? It to
Speaker 1: this ball um l a to Vegas Tuesday nights at night,
Speaker 1: Miss Fox. And then someone's like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to. I said, it's not
Speaker 1: Fox News. Yeah right, they two different things. Boo. I
Speaker 1: thought they were supporting the evil Conglomerate no, two different things,
Speaker 1: and Disney has bought us now anyway, exactly right, thank you, bye,
Speaker 1: thank you President. No, please, no, they stick in your life.
Speaker 1: You just hear that they want to possibly buy the
Speaker 1: five G like the network, and the government wants to
Speaker 1: buy five G network and then have the phone companies
Speaker 1: rent from them. That just came out to day. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know as they think because they think that
Speaker 1: China is going to spy on us through the five
Speaker 1: G network and they want to control it and have
Speaker 1: this phone company's rent from them. I'm just saying, wow,
Speaker 1: you know what China's going to spy you know what
Speaker 1: could happen. Oh my god, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: This is this is this is getting this is getting
Speaker 1: real and bleak. Okay, you dropped the baby. I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be when you finished, Mom, Mom, maybe
Speaker 1: you got to bomb on me. We would have to
Speaker 1: get up. Iconic drop, Iconic drop, And thank you everyone
Speaker 1: for listening, and you're welcome for this. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Nathan Lee Grant, I've had such a pleasure. You guys
Speaker 1: are wonderful, are so much fun. I hope to come
Speaker 1: back and do a little guest spot. Oh no, you
Speaker 1: get any time you want it. Literally, you tell Dan
Speaker 1: to get in touch with us and we will make
Speaker 1: it happy. Hen there you go. Yes, usually around Awards
Speaker 1: season we would be honor. So are you in Oscars?
Speaker 1: You know Officionado? Yes? Okay cool. That's HPJ just looked
Speaker 1: at me with hate in his heart because because basically
Speaker 1: he emailed and said, I think we should do an
Speaker 1: all Oscars episode. I said, bitch, we already did that
Speaker 1: and here we're here, we sit. But also, h p J,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have changed the thing about this episode. And
Speaker 1: this is all entirely like not ship of you. The
Speaker 1: listeners need to hear exact were just probably means we
Speaker 1: should wrap it up. We'll wrap it up, wrapping it up,
Speaker 1: wrapping it up, so finishing the hat, wrapping up the app,
Speaker 1: as Stephen Sondheim once said, wrapping up the app, wrapping
Speaker 1: up TEP, signing in a ball, making it just so,
Speaker 1: wrapping up the app, Bye, bye bye. This has been
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