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Speaker 1: but he mile high. Indeed he had. He showed me

419
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: like they get these like print outs every day of

420
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: like their their their routes, and yes we have those

421
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: as well, right, and it's it just it just seems

422
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: like an untenable lifestyle. And so hats off to people

423
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: listen to that, you know, they I always equate them

424
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: to actors because they have to feel out the audience. Yes,

425
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: they have to know what people are feeling, what they're

426
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: going through, um, sort of attend to them because you're

427
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: stuck together like in the theater um for those moments,

428
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: and it's like we got to deal with each other.

429
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: And also every passenger is judging the flight attendant. I

430
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: do it to So I just just realized I do this.

431
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: But I was literally on a flight a couple of

432
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago and I was like, Okay, what's the flight attendant?

433
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: Are they friendly? Are they cute? What are they doing

434
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: through the hardy quick? And you do? You judge them?

435
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: And they do thevery passenger you know, that's probably fun

436
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: for them. Oh, I'm sure it is. I mean it

437
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: keeps them going. Yeah, Oh my god. I've never really

438
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: thought of it going, especially with our extras. We have extras,

439
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: you know who I on Jackpot? Is that as similar?

440
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Is that a similar relationship there is that? Are you

441
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: treating them with the same sort of arms length? In general? Yes?

442
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: And I don't mean for you to like make no, no, no,

443
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: but in general yes, because you want to have sort

444
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: of a professional sort of thing going. But then as

445
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: as far as Nathan two, fellow actor. I assume that

446
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: some of them are actual actors who are a part

447
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: of the extra. Of course, I'm very kind of them

448
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: because you want that sort of camaraderie and all that

449
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: sort of thing happening. But in general I don't want

450
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: them near me, right of course, No, get them away.

451
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: And also they can need after me exactly, they can

452
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: need after me after I'm done, after you're done. I

453
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: was on a set and this this this background person

454
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: was looking for like there were there weren't outlets where

455
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: we were filming, and so she was looking for this

456
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: outlet and then I was looking for an outlet too,

457
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: but then she had like taken this outlet before I did,

458
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: and so I was just like, you know what, that's fine.

459
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: And so I went to the p and I was like,

460
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: is there an extra outlet for my phone? She goes,

461
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna kick We're gonna kick that.

462
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: We're kicked that Rosmary off of hers and I was

463
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: like no, no, I was like, don't don't do that.

464
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: It's crazy. She's like, you get priority, We're gonna kick

465
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: her off. I was like, non, absolutely not, because then

466
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: there does reflect on you it's like well bow and

467
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: yang and knocked to my phone out of its sport

468
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, no, please, don't do that.

469
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: So anyway, you know what, But what happened and what

470
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: was the inevitable thing that happened? I went and found

471
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: my own outlet was always well, always well listen, you paid,

472
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: paid it forward. And now I have not really seen

473
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: that many pieces of art that focus on the life

474
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: of a flight attendant, but I know we're one of

475
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: the few. I guess. The last one was that Gwyneth

476
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: peltrom over you from the top. It was was it

477
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: a film? It was a film. There's never been a well,

478
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: there has been a television show, but it was before

479
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: you both were born. And it was called Flying High

480
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: and it started Connie Selca, So you have to sort

481
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: of look that up. I'm giving Selca. I'm giving you

482
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: some deep dive there. Please. Also, they had a m show.

483
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: It was a comedy. She was indeed, and she was

484
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: wonderful in it. She's a wonderful period. So yes, un

485
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: good ones as well. I started interrupting, No, please, let's

486
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: interrupt all the time. Um. Also, I think I may

487
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: be making some history here. I might be the first

488
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: out flight attendant on network television. That is stunning, series

489
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: regular when you take into account that the majority of

490
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: those flight attendants probably have to be gay. Right, But

491
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: also I don't want to assume, well, I mean even

492
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: just outside of that, I mean, that's huge, That's that's huge. Trailblazer, trailblazer.

493
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure, like, I'm sure you made some

494
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: sort of history with like even Zoolander, who knows, you know,

495
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: like even like you know what Nathan's been done making history.

496
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I meant to say. How was it?

497
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: What was it like to work with Mila Djoviovic. First

498
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: of all, she is a delight that she really is

499
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: the best. When we got back when we did to

500
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years later, she said fuck in Rome on the

501
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: set because I hadn't seen her until she did her stuff,

502
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: and she was like, why do you look the same?

503
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Why do you look the same? Ben Stiller. Also, the

504
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: first day of my shooting stopped all the production. It

505
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: was like, Nathan Lee Graham is here today on the set,

506
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: why then does he look the same? All right, let's

507
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: get back to it, because because you know what, Ben Stiller,

508
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: I love him has aged a little bit in the

509
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: fifteen years since. Still handsome, very very handsome, and such

510
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: a delight to work with. Really, you know, that's a

511
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: sex symbol that no one really shouts out hot always done,

512
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: especially like especially in Zoolner when you saw his body,

513
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: well I think that was a fake body. Well, you

514
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: know what, Tropics underfine, but by the time you got

515
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: to Tropics Under, it was like whoa. There was like

516
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: a scene where they're like doing like like a fake

517
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: montage like the or whatever, and they cut to his

518
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: body and it was absolutely ripped. And of course, of

519
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: course that at the time was like whoa, I have

520
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: a boner for Penn Stiller, but that could not possibly

521
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: have been his body. Yeah, it was might even a

522
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: comedic Owen Wilson's that was his real body, though, um

523
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: I do okay, let's address this thing that Nathan's just

524
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: brought up, because do you have what is your what

525
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: is the regimen? What is what is keeping this intact?

526
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Because the children should know unless you don't want to

527
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: give it away, which is which is fine. You can't

528
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: give away all your secrets. Now, you can give away

529
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: the recipe and leave one thing out there you go there,

530
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: you go, and they have to figure it out on

531
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: the that's a rule of culture number one. You can

532
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: give away the recipe but leave one thing out. So

533
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't do anything special. Okay, it's uh,

534
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: the majority of its genes. And I don't mean, you know,

535
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: like gilt Gloria Vanderbilt jeans, she makes jeans. She used to.

536
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: She gave some good genes to her son though m

537
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: George Ash Gloria Vanderbilt George Ash looks anyway, you know,

538
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll pull out the old references, thank you. So, So

539
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I just take care of myself. I

540
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: do eat properly. Um, I work out three to four

541
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: times a week. I have uh you know, I just

542
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I take care of my skin, you know, especially when

543
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: you have to wear makeup on the set. I you know,

544
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: I clean my face and everything with strict regiment morning

545
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: and night. So, um, I do take care of myself.

546
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: Well you have to, yeah, but part of its geans too.

547
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like if you got sucked up jeans. Sorry

548
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: to quote Mila, fuck, why why why did fuck? That's

549
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: so funny. I love imagining the fury that was. That

550
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: was like in there because you know she can serve

551
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: some fury. Yeah, and she's so amazing. She's an amazing

552
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: mother and an amazing Musician's amazing that you forget it, Like, wait,

553
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: was miss Christine and Julander two? Yes? She was? Okay,

554
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: m I love miss Christine love Miss Christine. Yes, lovely,

555
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: lovely lovely. You know, I get along with all of

556
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: the people I've worked with because I'm the person that's

557
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: not directly in conflict with anyone I'm cast is you

558
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: know that person that is just not you know, yeah,

559
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: which which really does just like behooved you just to

560
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: like be that sort of because when you go on

561
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you do, you're then not stirring it up.

562
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm cast as the major villain in a in

563
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: a in a picture, I'm always stirring it up. Listen,

564
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't have to star on anything. I just have

565
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: to steal it the God. Now that's gotta be. That's

566
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a classic Nathan line. Now let's let's get

567
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: into let's get into the let's get into the upbringing. Sure,

568
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: now we're going to ask the question that we do

569
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: ask every guest, and that is what is the culture

570
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: that steered you in a cultural direction. It was when

571
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: you said if you were Pocahonas, and there was the

572
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: course that was culture, and there was another course that

573
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: was just a certain other kind of culture. This is

574
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: the course you you chose. There's a convoluted way to

575
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: ask the question. Movies, music, television shows, book, hometown, hometown what? Okay,

576
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound a little long winded, but my

577
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: mom said to me because I was her first child

578
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: and she was a young mother, married but young important.

579
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, baskets around here, some of these

580
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: single mothers out here roaming free? Right? Um? No, uh no,

581
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: Hamilton's around here. How does the bastard, etcetera? Thank you,

582
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: thank you? The question didn't get answered in the musical.

583
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Thank you. You're going to start the musical with a question.

584
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Fucking answer it. Answer the question. That's a real culture.

585
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Number fourteen. You're gonna start the question musical with a question,

586
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: and exactly, but you can't handle the truth. But yes,

587
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: so so she would sing to me because she didn't

588
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: get into the baby sort of talk or whatever when

589
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: I was in her womb. So I sort of feel

590
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: as though I was predisposed to be something sort of artistic.

591
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: Then she said I was born and there was lots

592
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: of lightning. I was born at one oh one a

593
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: m On Monday, and she said that my feet came

594
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: out feed first, feet first usually good. And then they

595
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: were like, oh dear, what's happening, Push him back in,

596
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: turn him around, and then use these things called for SIPs,

597
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: which they don't guess, which they don't use anymore because

598
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: because I was born in the Middle Ages. Um, oh

599
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: my God, to pull my big gass head out. My

600
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: mother says, my head now is the same size as

601
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: it was when it came out. I was like, you

602
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: know what, really now you got jokes? But anyway, I

603
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: digress um. And then you know, they would PLoP me

604
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: down in front of black and white films. So you know,

605
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: this is before Turner classics and all of that sort

606
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: of thing. And I used to conflate Broadway with movie musicals.

607
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: I was sure. And then of course, uh, immediately I

608
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: started working when I was six. Yeah, so you know, um,

609
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: where was where was home? Where? Where where did you well?

610
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: I was born in St. Louis, but then sort of

611
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: raised in Los Angeles and then back and forth, right

612
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: and so bad News Bears Go to Japan was like

613
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: my first film, and then um, you know, it's a

614
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: glorified extra and I had done Sanford and Son and

615
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: all of these sort of things, you know stuff. Yeah. So,

616
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: and then my first show was The Whiz, the first

617
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: national tour. I was a munchkin in Los Angeles because

618
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: they would hire the kids locally, right, So, um, that's

619
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: how it all sort of started. I started so early

620
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: that I don't really know if anything different, and I've

621
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: never done anything else, yes, yes, but that's how you

622
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: know that it's what you're meant to do in a Yeah,

623
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean some people can become disillusioned along the way, right.

624
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: You certainly have lean times and you know, abundant times.

625
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: But I've just been very fortunate knock on wood to

626
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: have always worked. And this isn't what will be just

627
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: knocked let everyone know at home called m D something

628
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's would, but

629
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: it's like chips of woods right away, Well, there's would.

630
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Just I'm going to top on the wood now the

631
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: perfect you guys heard that. There you go, So you're superstitious, exactly,

632
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: thank you? You know, dose of salt um so that's

633
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: really how sort of it it happened. And I was

634
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: always inspired by by big, huge movie stars Betty Davis,

635
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: Joan Crawford. The whole thing is anything sort of typically

636
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: known as gay now, which just simultaneously means good, Yes,

637
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: truly you know? Actually does you know? Just it's the

638
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: same thing as good that. So did you watch Feud?

639
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, you were a fan, absolutely, and I

640
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: knew all of that stuff before watching it. But I

641
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching the depiction, the depiction in the layout and

642
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: how how the gals did. They did quite well, I thought.

643
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a shame that it comes out the

644
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: same year as Big Little Lies, and everyone made like

645
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: a competition between them, because naturally that is what happens

646
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the year when there is an awards,

647
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: they do make it a competition to women again. But

648
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that Jessica Lang would give the performance

649
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: that she gives him that last episode and go unrewarded

650
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: like Nicole's amazing and right, I think deserves everything. But

651
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: wonderful that last episode of Feud so good that was

652
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: in the living room. So the whole conversation between all

653
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: of them when when amazing. When Judy Davis goes legends

654
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: all a mis had I loved. I loved all of that.

655
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's sort of how I got into it.

656
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: And you know, not to be a cliche walking around,

657
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: but it really is one of those things where I

658
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: was just enamored with people who were really good at

659
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: what they did, yes, and very early on, and then

660
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, subsequently got to work with some people that

661
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: I idolized, you know, like Eartha Kid. Eartha, we were

662
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: just talking about her performance as Issma other day, which

663
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: she did pretty much up to her dying day. Wonderfully.

664
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: She's no, it's a legend for all time, but it's

665
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: just earth it like they're just there's just footage of her,

666
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: like being interviewed. There's just like little snippets of her

667
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: just like just in different settings, but just like saying

668
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: these like just delicious things, iconic drops. Yes, Yes, that's

669
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: that's the perfect description. Iconic drops. Like like just her

670
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: about her not needing a man or and compromising and

671
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: compromising yes, yes, yes, and she just like just has

672
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: and she like laughs away questions. She'll be like she'd

673
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: be like what like like just ridiculing the person who

674
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: was asking her. Well, yeah, it's like how dare you exactly,

675
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: It's like, why would you ask me that? But what

676
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: a perfect way to be, like, you know what, you

677
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: just asked me and we had a delightful time doing

678
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: the Wild Party about you said you worked with her, Yeah, yeah,

679
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: that was I mean, I mean, you talk about a

680
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: wonderful Broadway cast. And I don't want to leave anyone out,

681
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: but I'll start naming, you know, names, dear friends like

682
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Michael McElroy and Norm Lewis and Tania Penkins and Tony

683
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: Collette and Mandy Patinkin and Leah Hawckey, Sally Murphy, Jane Summer,

684
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: Hayes uh oh gosh, gosh, gosh. I'm leaving people out,

685
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: and I hate that Brooks anymore, bur Um. Just a

686
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: whole list of wonderful people, Miss Tony Collette, Mr. Mandy Patinkin,

687
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: Yeah true, I mean, and Earth of course, of course,

688
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: but you know Stewart's age, Adam Grouper. There's all coming

689
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: to me there you go. I can't believe Tony Colett

690
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: sometimes I think she should be one of those I'll

691
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: just keep throwing please just as they come for the

692
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: rest of the episode. I'll just talk about Tony Collette please,

693
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: and you can chime in with more names with names, No,

694
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I mean, she's mean, what do you say? What do

695
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: you say? Well, it's like we had John early on

696
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: the show, and he beloved Toni Collette and he always

697
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: does a wonderful impression of I wanted to make my

698
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: mother proud, my mother proud. The sixth sense, Um, Nathan,

699
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: is there um opportunity, enthusiasm, interest. I mean, this feels

700
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: like such an obvious question to return to the theater

701
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: at some please, I never want to leave it, but

702
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: you're in l A now. Well I am, but you

703
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: know you have time off and you always prepare to

704
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: do things that you can't really if you are a

705
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: serious person, um, a serious artist, you can't really ever

706
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: leave anything, especially if we're when I come back to it,

707
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: I just saw o'dolly and you and uh and Bernadette's

708
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: back in you know, on Broadway, and Victor Garber is

709
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: there as well. These are people who do tons of

710
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: television as well, so you know, but they're back on

711
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: stage and you can't if you really want to, you know,

712
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: I hope to be ubiquitous in that kind of way.

713
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Where you just keep keep it, keep it going. I

714
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: think you're already there. I think I think it's just

715
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: about scaling that up. I have a question. So you

716
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: said you've been doing it since you were very, very young,

717
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: and it's always been a part of your life. Was

718
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: there ever a moment where you were like, you know what,

719
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: let me set this to the side for a second

720
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: and just see if I have another pass or anything

721
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: or not at all, not at all. And I thought

722
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: about it, but I never did it, and then it

723
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: got to be too late. Well at that where I

724
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: became such a weirdo. Um, you know, such a specialized

725
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: person that my lens of seeing anything was always through

726
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: that sort of artist lens. And uh so really I'm

727
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: not suited to anything to do any thing else. I

728
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: feel that way as well. Yeah, if anyone asked me

729
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: to ever do anything besides sit here and talk, I

730
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: would vomit. Yeah. I mean, you know, I love to

731
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: talk on occasion, but I mean that's also performative, right,

732
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: And I had to have something to talk about. So

733
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: what the means I have to keep working? Yeah, you

734
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: got to get those projects to be able to talk

735
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: to do it. You gotta just do it, you know.

736
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: I hope this is the same for the both of you,

737
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: But I would. I would talk to anyone in this room,

738
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: even if we didn't have jobs, even if we weren't working,

739
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I would talk to any of you in the room.

740
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: I think I'll talk to you absolutely, Thank you, Thank you.

741
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: HPJ just fanned himself and put it only his fingers

742
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: on his chest, which where that's where, Which means he's

743
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: been hanging out of us too much, that he gave

744
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: himself too fans and then placed his hand on his

745
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: chest like he was Bibi Sahara Bene in that one

746
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: music video. She was the first winner, Yes, the first winner.

747
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Do you watch True Balls Drag Race? Yes, it's hey

748
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: if you don't, no, no, no, I do, but I

749
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: do for the papers. I always say for the papers. No,

750
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: of course, I've had a friend on every episode, you know,

751
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: at least one person. You mean, like in terms of

752
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: the guest judges are like the queens both So um,

753
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: I hope to be a guest judge on that show.

754
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're fabulous and I adore them all.

755
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: And I think what ru is doing is so important,

756
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, just bringing bringing it to the children and

757
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: bring it to all the children. I am. I would

758
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: be remiss. My publicist would not be pleased if I

759
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: did not mention Dan n LG NYC Le Jazz Classic.

760
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: That's the new jazz album that I'm working on this

761
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: year and it will be completed hopefully by the end.

762
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this album. But we love that.

763
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Is this true that you are technically a Grammy winning artists?

764
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: I am? Do you have no because when you're part

765
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: of nine soloists, even though I did ten numbers have

766
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: to pay for it. You have to pay for it,

767
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: so I um, and I technically have to. We won

768
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: seven for Best Classical Album two thousand five, So um,

769
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: it's still you know, it's there for me there. I

770
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: just haven't bothered to do it. Sure, But about that too,

771
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: that you have to pay for the actual statute, which

772
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: was such because it goes to the composer William Bocum

773
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: for the this is the songs of instance and of experience, Um,

774
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: William Blake we put to music, and uh it's very

775
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: heavy and wonderful, like this three hour cantata oratorio sort

776
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: of thing. My god, and I was just privileged enough

777
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: to be a part of it with you. I mean,

778
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: but you're I mean, you're you're, you're, You've got the

779
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: G and he got ye is the only one you

780
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: have thus far. I gotta get I got the G.

781
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: I gotta get. The T is going to happen, Alec

782
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: Mathis says, and the Emmy goes to I said, listen, bitch,

783
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: if that happens, you're going to go to the ceremony

784
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: with me. Why did I say that? Because other people

785
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: were like, wait a minute, you better have a plus

786
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: two then. But it was so kind of him. I

787
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: adore a like math But he's so talented. He's the

788
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: hero of mine. You know, I've loved him four thousand years.

789
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's just the best. He is the best,

790
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: and he's so generous and so supportive and lovely and

791
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: just super talented. You wouldn't you wouldn't think anything least.

792
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he is like Kim and that he you

793
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: see them killing the jokes and you're like, that's a

794
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: nice person too. But with Alec it's like, I mean,

795
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: and you know this visibility blah blah blah, but it's

796
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: like you know, you weren't seeing any still aren't. You

797
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: weren't seeing like a queer Asian person. You weren't, and

798
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: you still don't see enough of them, and so well, listen,

799
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: you don't see enough of anybody. I believe. Now let's

800
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: get a little political. Believe that, um, you know, there

801
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: should be some sort of gay representative in everything, because

802
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: there is. Yes, I mean, I was just lost here

803
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: on Pearl Street by myself, the gay lost on Pearl Street,

804
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: and there's one, and you represented them so well. Set

805
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: you understand, how does that presents a queer narrative? Pearl

806
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: Street presents a queer expertise, the orientational uh disarray. There's

807
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: one Uh, oh my god, this is a uh proximity

808
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: to water. There you go, there's number two, number three

809
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: cobble stones. Absolutely, thank you. So I just think that

810
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: we should be everywhere in every story. It's not like,

811
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: oh he's gay. No, it's like, no, this is another person,

812
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: This is another narrative, This is another fabric of the

813
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: human existence. Yes, there was one show that I couldn't

814
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: believe didn't have a gay character because it was such

815
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: a gay show. Now I'm now I don't know it,

816
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: but I like even like I don't know there's some

817
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: there's some shows out there where I'm like, where is

818
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: the gay here? Like I just and you don't see it.

819
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: That could literally be any show. Well, I started doing

820
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: those roles and wanting to have those roles before in

821
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: even some of my wonderful gay colleagues did. And it

822
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: wasn't about just you know, banging people over the head.

823
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: It was like, no, Um, these roles are being written

824
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: and straight people are taking them in winning awards, So

825
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: why don't you want to do them? Why do you

826
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: feel like you have to be validated by only doing

827
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: straight roles straight? None of my straight actor friends go

828
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: around and say, oh, I'm so sick of playing straight roles.

829
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: There you go. Can I tell you what grinds my

830
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: fucking gears off is when people are saying that Timothy

831
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: Shalomy's character Eliot and Call Me by your Name is bisexual. No, bitch,

832
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: that is gay, man. I think it's it's based on

833
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: the book that he is he bisexual in the book

834
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: he has in the book because in the ending, which

835
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: is not included in the which is not depicted in

836
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: the movie, Um, you know both of them have future

837
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: relationships with men and women. So on some technical level. Okay,

838
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: in that movie, he has a straight experience and is gay.

839
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: Can tell me Elio like the pizza, Elio's pizza, which

840
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: no one's talking about, which is so great. The no

841
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: one's talking about the fact that Elliot was named after

842
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: the pizza Italian. Listen, it's square. No, it's not square,

843
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: it's it's rect. You can come into a square, crispy bottom, beautiful.

844
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna go right past that, really really good. I

845
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: was going to go in now you know what, we're

846
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna go past. I just got it. I just got it. Unfortunately,

847
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: it took me along. I was on a lagged on

848
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: that show to call it back to Elliot. But listen,

849
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: he's not buying that movie. He has a straight experience,

850
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: like we all do. We all suffer through that and

851
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: then we get together. I haven't. I haven't really gold

852
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: gold gold. We're not platinum in terms of in terms

853
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: of sex, platinums are hard. Platinum are c sections these

854
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: actions in touched to vagina. In terms of vagina, I've

855
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: never touched. I've never seen one, even with my own eyes.

856
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: I have a joke about this, but I can't say

857
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: it on the air. Oh well, and then you know,

858
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: and we'll let these boys leave the room. And yeah,

859
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: I want to touch on something, um because you you

860
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: you just talked about you know, just you know, having

861
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: that representation or just having gay actors play gay roles.

862
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about and ask you

863
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: about your experience with being an actor, a gay actor, um,

864
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: at a time when diversity wasn't this buzzword where it

865
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: wasn't like this thing of like, oh this is actually desirable,

866
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: where it was actually so institutionally challenging for you to

867
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: actually get book these roles and play these things. Like

868
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you square that? Now? Like is that?

869
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously positive, but like was it? It

870
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: was difficult because I would go in for gay roles

871
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: and they would say I wasn't gay enough because they

872
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: didn't know any gay people like me sort of didn't

873
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, have come in with a pink boa and

874
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: an immediate limp wrist and you know, over the top

875
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: and sort of Paul Lynn, which I had no problem

876
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: with either, but I was like, no, we're just really

877
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: sort of regular normal people. I said. I can be

878
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: elegant at times, but you know, um, it was hard

879
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: for me to get a role. And the first gay

880
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: role that I received was The Wild Party and two

881
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: thousand wow. And then how long had you been auditioning

882
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: for screen stuff? Um? I never really wanted to do

883
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: to film or TV, so it had happened, but it

884
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: just happened. And then of course even on stage though

885
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: it was, it was never sort of an overtly gay

886
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: roll nothing, And I had been working, so you know,

887
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: it was sort of maybe flamboyant or over the top

888
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: or charismatic. It's so funny when they put a word

889
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: in there that they doesn't when they think isn't like

890
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: one thing, go in for a lot of assistance and

891
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: I get officious a lot, yes, like officious, Um, well dressed,

892
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: we said on the show, like fastidiousious. We're seeing a

893
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: lot you know, dapper, you know, fopish. Yeah, that's what

894
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: you know what they want. But sometimes, like when when

895
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: they just will say gay, it's interesting to go into

896
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: the room and see what else people have prepared, because

897
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: some people will come in with this sort of caricature

898
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: and it can be confusing because you don't know who's

899
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: casting it. Maybe they do want the caricature, or maybe

900
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: they do want When I read gay. I'm like, maybe

901
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: I'll just go in as myself and that will be

902
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: enough because I'm gay. But it's confusing because it's like,

903
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: from a casting standpoint, what do they want? How can

904
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: I represent this? Um? Like with integrity. It's very kind

905
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: of it starts. It starts with the material. If the

906
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: material is good, Um, that's all I really actually care about.

907
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: If the writing is good, that's where you start, and

908
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: then you get in You can get into the minutia

909
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: of personality acting, you know, but just ask John Wayne

910
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: what that's about, you know, or any major star you

911
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: can think of. Uh, very rarely do you have a

912
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: Meryl Streep role and becomes that person so intently that

913
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: you can't believe that she played someone else at some

914
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: point exactly, you know. And I don't mean that as

915
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I just mean that's not as it's

916
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: not it's not normal. It's not normal. And also it's

917
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: like sort of not in vogue now, you know what

918
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean. There's there's not a lot of actors you

919
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: can say besides Meryl, And there's not a lot of

920
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: like I think people like for example, like say Margot

921
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: Robbie's age that do the chameleon thing. And that's why

922
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: when everyone's like, like, somebody asked the question recently, who's

923
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: the next who's the Meryl of like our generation? And

924
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: someone said cre Sharon, And I'm like that, you know,

925
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: that's close. But really it's like nowadays, because you need

926
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: like a personal brand and everything, you don't see a

927
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: lot of people stepping in and out of things and

928
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: disappearing because it's important that we're also able to like

929
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: see them slay it on a talk show. You know,

930
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: someone that says Jennifer Lawrence is the next Meryl. It's like, well,

931
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: there's a big difference there. Yeah. Yeah, although I did

932
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: see that she'll be playing a Russian woman, so that

933
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: I saw that that's gonna be fascinating. Yes, absolutely, we'll see,

934
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: we'll see. I think what happens with that sort of thing,

935
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: with the Russian thing is people leave out their voices,

936
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: and a voice is a part of the character that

937
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: you're developing, and so I just want to put that

938
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: out there. Sure, they're first taking the voice for the accent,

939
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: complete your character with the voice, you have to follow through. Yes, yes, yes,

940
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: that's that's very true. And I never thought about that

941
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: until it and when you can't figure out why you're

942
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: not loving someone's performance, it's usually their voice. Oh can

943
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: I tell you? Um? Sometimes with Kate Winslet, sometimes I

944
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: think she's usually brilliant, but sometimes when her American accent

945
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: seems extra American, I'm always like, what's going on? Like,

946
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: I think she's better when she speaks in some sort

947
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: of European dialect. And I read that English and Australian

948
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: actors have a specifically hard time with the American accent

949
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: because of the rs like they speak. The ohs are

950
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: like that, and then the R is like a hard thing.

951
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: So I can really hear them struggling to do that.

952
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: Just one thing that kind of distracts me. And also,

953
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts clearly have the same vocal

954
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: coach because they have the same voice when they do

955
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: American roles. Maybe there's only one in Perth, maybe there's

956
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: only one on the on the West coast about Australia.

957
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: But I love her though, we love we love you, Perth,

958
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: all of our listeners in Perth, We're coming, We're coming.

959
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, in Perth, It's coming live

960
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: in two There you go, Perth. I would love to visit.

961
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: Perth is the only place in Australia have not had

962
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: the privilege of going to. But you've been everywhere else,

963
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: bit shut up, Yes, I haven't been to the outback.

964
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: You ho. Now we just made a left turn. I

965
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: just don't like lies, lies and fairy tales, lies and

966
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: fairy tales, the bow and Yang story. Fine, I own

967
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: up to my embellishment. Listen, you've got to do it

968
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: when you when you're talking like you're Elizabeth Hasselbeck herself

969
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: been to the Australian Outback. Now, legs and shoulders though,

970
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: the last thing to go on a woman, and it's legs. Now,

971
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is fantastic. Now, okay, this sounds

972
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: like it's I've been. I've been prefacing all my questions,

973
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: but this is a little yeah, stop doing that something

974
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: at culture. Does you know what Nathan Annasky straight please?

975
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: Is this is Eli to Vegas? Does it feel like

976
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: a reunion with Will I? Maybe you're not seeing him

977
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: every day on set, but at least, well, this is

978
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: how it feels. It feels as though the tonality of

979
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: the show is so him, and that is so special

980
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: to me because it just feels like home. You know

981
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: what I get as humor, and so because it's close

982
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: to mine as far as this genre is concerned. And

983
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: I love the fact that it's so fast paced that

984
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: you actually have to watch it twice so um, which

985
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: is great because you can go back and like, you know,

986
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: did they say that? Oh, they did say that? So

987
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: you know it's it's great. And apparently I'm putting the

988
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: gift game. You are full blast, you've been you know,

989
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea, but then you know, the children

990
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: are telling me now that children know that I'm full

991
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: on gift. But it's it's the face. It's it's the face.

992
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: It's the body. It's face face, body face. Give them face,

993
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: body face. And the Bbi Sahara. We're very into Bishara

994
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: and her music. Suns you are. We're providing the material.

995
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: So you should be very very happy. And there is

996
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: no better line. There's no better interaction in due Lander

997
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: than the one you have after the coffee is the

998
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: latte the famulas that was fourteen spills and the reaction

999
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: is the same because if it's cold or hot, it's

1000
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: the same on screen. Sure, And I remember been being

1001
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: rather you know, perplexed about the coffee not showing up

1002
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: on the T shirt, and he said, this is the

1003
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: gayest T shirt in the world because we were in

1004
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: to exist, and that's when two exists just came out, right.

1005
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: But it wasn't time enough because it had to be

1006
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, I have a nice I can't believe I

1007
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: was going to say I have a nice chest. I

1008
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: have defined chest. Yes, a defined chest is what I

1009
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: meant to say. I have a definedest. So so we

1010
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: need the shirt to sort of they come away from

1011
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: the crevice, which I think it did a good job of.

1012
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: But what they had to do was they had to

1013
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: cut it on the sides and so her up because

1014
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: we try to do it with a little clamp, but

1015
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: it was pulling in the wrong spot, right. So movie magic,

1016
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: that's what they call that. Movie magic. We'll be learning

1017
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: about that when we go to Universal Studio. Well, I

1018
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: mean we and that was b roll. That wasn't supposed

1019
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: to be. We were doing that for Ben's benefits. A plus.

1020
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: If that wasn't in the movie, I mean, we wouldn't

1021
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: know because we would never have seen it. But that

1022
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: would have been a real loss loss cinema. It's it's

1023
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: it's an inherently queer moment. Oh yes, it's rippled out.

1024
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those moments that you were watching.

1025
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Nathan's laughing, but it's true. It's very gay

1026
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: and thank god. And also that's how I know I

1027
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: love will fare All so deeply. Because of course, then

1028
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: he became like sort of the poster child for like

1029
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: fifteen year old high school kids being like, oh yeah,

1030
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: Santiago whales vagina dude. But like, no, what they don't

1031
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: understand is there was the phony latte Phlmy latte makes

1032
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: me bloated and gassy. Yes, yes, I mean farty. My

1033
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: mistakes are your mistake. Indeed, I mean, come on, my mistakes, Jacobin.

1034
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We're in the presence of you, right, we

1035
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: have to be so and and just originating the pronunciation,

1036
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so much too well, that's the

1037
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: when I looked at it, I said, that's the way

1038
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: it sounds, Jacot, even hearing you saying, oh my god,

1039
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean and we did have to cut because there's

1040
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: too much laughter. After I first said, I was like,

1041
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: what is someone laughing about? Because that's actually that's why

1042
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: I actually thought it would sound. How is it actually

1043
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: how is it supposed to be pronounced? I don't know.

1044
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: I bet no one to, you know, but I said,

1045
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: jacobtan you know, I guess it didn't have to be

1046
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: sort of French on the on the front side of it. Yeah,

1047
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: it could have been Jacobin. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that

1048
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like yoakum or jokum. Yeah yeah, yeah. You

1049
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Jacob. But I thought he's a designer,

1050
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: and he's trying to be, you know, a fancy designer

1051
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: even though he's only done the piano tie, and so

1052
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, pump him up. Yes, yes, yes,

1053
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: jac beautiful. That actually happened one other time in cinema history.

1054
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: Alicia Silverstone instead of Haitians said Haitians, and they went

1055
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: to correct her, and Amy Heckling, the director, was like,

1056
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: don't you dare she will say Haitians each time, and

1057
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: it will be will be in the movie. Absolutely Haiti's

1058
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: certainly party with the Haitians. So good experienced, one of

1059
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: the best ever. I think Jacobin manages edges it out

1060
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: just I don't think I have two more favorite movies

1061
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: than Zoolander and Clueless. And that says everything. You know.

1062
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: You know the night we were shooting that particular scene

1063
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: as well, um was right around the time that al

1064
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: Gore had one and Bush had lost, and by the

1065
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: time we finished it, switched has has I'm sure you've

1066
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: told this before, but this is this is huge. Had

1067
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: to be seared into your memory whenever I was in

1068
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: the city at that time. Oh my god, this has

1069
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: to be in some movie trivia, because we were all

1070
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: watching it once we started that that was a very

1071
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: long day. I remember it being over like twelve fourteen

1072
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: hours and he was winning and at one floor and

1073
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: then nonsense and just to go back to the wardrobe

1074
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: and I will say, and you and you still do

1075
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: but the body was snatched. They snatch, snatch, snatched, and

1076
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: it was like that. I was like that that guy

1077
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: so funny and and looking at him, wow and fashion icon.

1078
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: What he's saying by looking at him, Wow? Is he

1079
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: wanted you? You yea great news. This makes me so happy.

1080
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: I hope this is I hope this makes you well.

1081
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: I actually recently we always we we recently met Actually

1082
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell, did you really watch his snl that It

1083
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: was a fantastic episode and I actually was in the

1084
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: writer's room because our dear friend Sudie Green is a

1085
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: writer on the show, and I was there for it,

1086
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: and I was I ran into our friend. His name

1087
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: is James Anderson, writer on SNL for many years, and

1088
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 1: I told him, Um, he wrote a sketch series called

1089
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: Deep House Dish and he worked. Remember. Yes, So that

1090
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: like changed my life in terms of knowing that people

1091
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: got my sense of humor. Like I was, I can

1092
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: keep going on existing in the world because someone gets it.

1093
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: That to me was like that your entire performance in

1094
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: that movie. I was like, oh my god, Yes, God,

1095
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: that's like a formative piece, you know. So we love

1096
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: telling you that. I appreciate it very much for for

1097
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: everything you've done and continue to do with Elia Vegas. Fantastic.

1098
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: We can't wait to keep watching it. Just it's we're

1099
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: preempted tomorrow night, I believe because of another comedy at

1100
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: the White House. Yeah, that comedy. Can you even fathom

1101
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: the nonsense that is Omarosa Managult going on Celebrity Big

1102
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: Brother within a month of leaving the White House. It's

1103
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: truly but it goes beyond irony. And I don't know

1104
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: what the phrases. It's not it's not funny, it's not

1105
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: even like it's like, I don't even know what it is.

1106
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic or something. It's it's it's just I

1107
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: don't know. It's beyond, it's beyond. And also it's like

1108
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: you see her name, and then the rest of the

1109
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: cast is like, oh my god, there's not even anyone

1110
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: here like that's going to understand a word of what's

1111
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: going on. It's like a Lance Bass who I don't have.

1112
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's lovely and very intelligent. He

1113
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: might be, and I don't know, but he should stay away.

1114
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't In any case, I don't know. It

1115
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: was like a secret close friend. No God, I mean

1116
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: not no, no God, but no lancing to on TV?

1117
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: He does on the TV? I don't. I don't know.

1118
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: I think he probably watches likes friends have TVs, so

1119
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: so let's lances on TV. Unfortunately, Lance's friends are every

1120
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: gay in l A. We have this back and I

1121
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: love the what is that the thing he did? The race?

1122
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: He did amazing race? No, not the the in France?

1123
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: What's it what's it called? Yes? I love the Twitter France.

1124
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong. Yes, absolutely, the other lance. Wait a minute,

1125
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: which one were we talking about? I conflated them and

1126
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: you know what, you know why because they're both blond. Yeah.

1127
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: And this actually, let's let you get away with Scott

1128
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: free because you've got them. I got them confused. I

1129
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: had door Lands bass. Here is he affiliated with the

1130
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: bass shoes? Absolutely? All right, he must be. Now lend

1131
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 1: the bass guitar and then the bass and the bass fish.

1132
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 1: Oh right, he was part of the band. The band

1133
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: he actually was, interestingly enough, the bass and in sync.

1134
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: And his last name is bass. That's irony. That's irony.

1135
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: There is no conflating words. Now let's move on to

1136
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: our segment, our ending segment. I don't think which Nathan

1137
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: has come so prepared for. I'm prepared. We're not going

1138
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: to be able to get to all of them, so

1139
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: so what I'm just going to read them off. I

1140
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: think you should read them off and then and then

1141
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: whichever one you feel you connect with the most in

1142
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: this moment, that's what the one or you feel connected with.

1143
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: And we already got one on. So my thing is,

1144
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: if you get in front of me, either on the

1145
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: road or walking, you have to go faster. Yeah, if

1146
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: you're listening to music on your headphones, you should be

1147
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: the only one hearing that music. It's a big I'm

1148
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: guilty of being on the other side of that. I'll

1149
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: just leave this out there. Too much riffing, I'm guilty

1150
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: of that. Too much riffing is not good, just not good. Um,

1151
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: not knowing what you want when you get to the counter,

1152
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: thank you. Yes, there's the passion. Okay, we already went

1153
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: over both sides, and then I have one here that's

1154
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: really sort of minutia. But but it's a explaining something

1155
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: that's obvious. More than once. It drives me. It drives

1156
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: me insane. I think I think I want to hear

1157
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: your I don't think so, honey, on too much riffing.

1158
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: I sort of want to hear it about the counter, Okay,

1159
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: it's a I think the reason why I want to

1160
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 1: hear mine is because and I think listeners will agree

1161
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: with me. It's more, Um, you know you like it

1162
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: because it has to do with you. I like this

1163
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: mother because you are stupid. It's a slice of life,

1164
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: and it's everyone can relate to. Oh what, so we're

1165
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna hear another one about how someone was a problem

1166
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: in a restaurant. Tail us all this time, I want

1167
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: to all this time. You should never start that song

1168
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: off with riffing. So here's to start us. First of all,

1169
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: a riff or amanti or anything, you know, something like

1170
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: this a grace note. They happen as a as a

1171
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: form of musical emotion. They have to come from somewhere.

1172
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 1: So you can't really do a riff at the top

1173
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: of a fucking song unless it's so specific. You know.

1174
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: It was like Barbro where we were, Yeah, where are

1175
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: you riffing? There? You go, Okay, don't want to riff

1176
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: about you know what? I think? Fine, I will concede

1177
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: and let you. Let let Nathan do the one. I'm

1178
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna jump in there on that counter though, Well, we'll

1179
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: come a little what you know, what you can You

1180
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want with your time. Let me

1181
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: tell you something. It's rule number sixty three culture. You

1182
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want with your time. But you

1183
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: want to shake it up, you want to do you

1184
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: want to do at the viti and you could do

1185
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: whatever you need. You definitely don't riff that. You get

1186
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: when you get to the front of the counter not

1187
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: knowing what you want that's why don't you know what

1188
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: you want? Do you know what you want? It's like,

1189
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: what do I want to hold that I'm here? Dead?

1190
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: Your dad? Your dad? Okay, So especially at the movie theater,

1191
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: especially at the cinema, you mean to tell me you

1192
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: don't know what movie you want to see? You That's

1193
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: what I had to assume you were going to say.

1194
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: Was when they go up to the snacks concessions, to

1195
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: go up to the box office and not know which flick,

1196
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: It's like, what is happening? What is I want them

1197
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: to spontaneously combust? When they also, they're all so different

1198
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: at any given point of time. You're never gonna see

1199
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: X Men and Spider Man at the same thing. So

1200
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: if when you're getting married you choose choose, this is

1201
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: not selfie choice. It's not self choice choice. Guess what, bitch,

1202
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: it's not dead to the fact you can see it later.

1203
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: So this is a communal I don't think so, honey,

1204
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: And I'm loving them, loving it. So let's have let's

1205
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: let's have Maco or I can go first. I'll go first.

1206
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: So we'll do one minute each on our topics and

1207
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: then we will throw it to Nathan Will you put

1208
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: me on the clock. So this is Matt rob hold on,

1209
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: I said I had to right, yes, Oh my god,

1210
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: I know I have a bad memory nowadays. You want

1211
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: me to go first, No, no, I'll go first. I

1212
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: know which one I want to do. Okay, this is Matt.

1213
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: So you work in the phrase I don't think so, honey,

1214
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: is as much as you can this is Matt Rodgers

1215
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: is I don't think so many as time starts now,

1216
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. When I watch an award

1217
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: show and it's as if there's only one movie or

1218
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: one song or one album that came out that whole

1219
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: motherfucking year. Bruno Mars and his little ass. Let me

1220
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: tell you something magic. Sure, when I first heard it

1221
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: famously on a party boat, I did gag, and I

1222
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: shook my kind of a little bit for a white

1223
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: point kind of big ass, and I sort of enjoyed myself.

1224
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: But if I had known, bitch by the end of

1225
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: the year that it was gonna take album record, sorry

1226
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: performance bitch, I would say I would eat my hats because,

1227
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, there's no way that it's

1228
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: the best written song and best performance song and best

1229
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: produced song in the whole year and also happens to

1230
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: be on the best album of the year. No, we

1231
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: need to spread the wealth, bitch, and I don't want

1232
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: to open up this Oscar's conversation and then see the

1233
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: Shape of Water wins every motherfucking thing, because I'll be

1234
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: very upset. Bodak Yellow should have won something because it's

1235
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: the only song in the club that will have you

1236
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: wind it at the end. Fuck. These award shows then

1237
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: only give out to one thing that's one minute, that's

1238
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: my best one and I've done in months. Oh my goodness, inspired, inspired,

1239
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: and you know what's you know what's uninspired? Award shows

1240
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: that only give awards to one thing? Thank you. That's true.

1241
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 1: That's true. Diversifications, diversify it up. Also, I want to

1242
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: say one more thing about the Grammys. How dare they?

1243
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: And I said months ago, I said if ed Shearon

1244
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: beats Miss Kelly, Miss Pink, Miss Gaga and Miss Kesha

1245
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: for that Pop Local Performance Award. The gaze we stats

1246
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: when we stormed the castle, And what has happened? What

1247
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: has occurred? A song that was bit a little bit

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Speaker 1: by the way by with the three girls left Eye

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01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: and Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Kenny Burris has a songwriting credit.

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Speaker 1: I don't want no scrubs. You know what else? I

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01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: don't want no Ed Sheeran showing up on my television

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: taking award from All My Girls dance leaving just as

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Dirty Gina alright, So that's my

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Also, it's kind of kind

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01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: of strange that we're awarding we're awarding a song that

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: says I'm in love with the shape of you, that

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01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: I gratifies a woman's body in this year, the shape

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01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: of water there you go, shape of Yeah, you know

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: what that is a sign that's gonna win. Fuck right,

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01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: that's all right, Okay, as Mila one said, fuck use

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01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: on the clock, we're on the closs alright. I just

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 1: noticed that there's two iconic Mila's jec and with that,

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Speaker 1: with that, I don't think, so, honey, is time starts now?

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01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't think, so, honey. Lost Culturesta's listeners who keep

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: telling Matt and I did comment on Britney Spears' Instagram

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01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: and it's not we have no onus to do this.

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01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: It's too sad, it's too tragic. It's just as sad

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: as Omarrossa going on celebrity big brother, don't make us

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01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: do this. It's you know what, We love you so much.

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: We will do anything for you, but except for comment

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: on Britney Spears's Instagram negatively, negatively, because we're not going

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: to do that, you know. And there's Instagram and it's

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01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: and it's she's having fun, she's having fun, she's doing

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: a lot. We love it. But people are just telling

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01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: us to be snarky about it, and we're like, no,

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01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: it's it's got our job. We we don't We don't

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01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: want to drag people down. We don't want to. You know,

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: you are people who we don't do that here, very

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: positive know what this is, what it is, it's punching down.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think so many people who want us

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: to punch down, because that's not what we do here, honey.

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01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: Lots culture, we lift up, we punch up, We do

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01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 1: things up honey, and it's up we go, it's up

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01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: we go. And I have to say, I absolutely concur

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01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: if you think you're going to tune into this podcast

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01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: and here's something mean about someone who you know has

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01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: been through it and you know, maybe can't speak for herself.

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01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 1: And defend herself. You're not gonna hear it here, honey,

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: You're only gonna hear snark about mask drag performers at

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: Gaffron and the like, because they are in control. They

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Speaker 1: are there. You go. So, Nathan, we've arrived. Have you

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: reached any clarity about what you want to speak on? More?

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: The rift thing? The counter? I think, I mean, we

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: we we we we talked about what I really have

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01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: a thing about already. But if if I must go on,

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 1: you must, I think we should just put the clock

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: on and see where the funk happens. That's what I think.

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: Should we do that? Well, listen, here, here's the thing

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Speaker 1: about here's the thing about it. Uh, there are a

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01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: couple of things that get on my nerves. First of all,

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: we'll just go down the list. Um. The getting in

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01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: front of me really does bug me because it's like, Okay,

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01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm not walking fast enough. I know, I don't. Think,

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: so honey, I walk fast enough. I'm gonna start the timer.

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01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: Here we go go. Think so honey, I walk fast enough.

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01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: But if you think you're gonna get your little butt

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01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: in front of me and then walk slower, what is

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01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: that all about? Especially? On these streets, on these New

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: York City streets. No one's coming from me on these

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: New York City streets along with my bag, which it

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: works at some sort of rudder, you know what I'm saying,

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01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: and it keeps me going. It keeps me going. So

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: I purposely walked just slow enough so they can't go around. So,

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Speaker 1: you know what, honey, I don't think so. I don't

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: think so on the road either. I don't think so

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: on the road either. You're gonna get in front of me,

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01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: and I'm already in the middle lane. I'm in the

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: middle lane. So if you really want to go that fast,

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: get in the fast lane. Get I don't think so, honey.

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01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna get in front of me, Get in front

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01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: of me and go fast, not slow. Don't slow it down.

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: Oh now I'm front I'm in front of him. Like

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: some sort of psychological thing you want to get in

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: front of me ain't gonna happen. So that's how that's

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: this is the impact that will have. No one will

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01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: ever do that again. No one will ever get to

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: anyone at least say hello, and guess what, at least

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: say hello before you fuck me up. Exactly breaking my stride.

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01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: Nobody gonna break in my stride. Me down, Oh no,

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01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: I got to keep the mood and they gotta keep up.

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01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: Come on placement, no riffing, there no just a clear note.

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. Here's the t My

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01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: head is hot. We because we have un you know,

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01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: we know that we have listeners. We have seen the diagnostics.

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: I think is the word. We know that you're in analytics. Analytics. Sure,

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: I don't know my words, but I do know my heart,

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01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 1: my famous saying, UM, I know we have people listening

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01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 1: here in San Francisco. I know Los Ange that you

1339
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: guys listen. I know we have some people in our

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01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: Lando they're listening. And I know you're on the open road.

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: I know this is not a situation like New York

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: City where you don't think this applies to you. We'll

1343
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: guess what, bitch, We're talking to everyone that gets behind

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01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: the wheel of a car and tries it. Don't don't

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01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: try it. Don't especially if I'm in the middle. If

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Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of lanes. The thing is that.

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01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: And you know what, if I'm going by the speed

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: limit rules and you have an issue, an issue with that,

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01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: take your ass to the fast Out, Go to the

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01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: fast Lane, Get Out, Get Out, directed by Jordan Peel,

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01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: starring Betty Gabriel starring Betty Gabriel of an Oscar. And

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: here's my thing. Don't you understand satire? Some people who

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01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: come to me and say, I don't gotta that's enough.

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: That's another I don't think that's It's like, it's a satire.

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: What's a satire? Then read a book, read a book.

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01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: It's not unsebtlek read a book. B It's actually a

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01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: real member forty eight culture reading a book. Bitch. Nathan

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01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: gets it. Nathan, Nathan's joining us on. This is a episode,

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01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: and this is an episode. Read a book, bitch, read

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01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: a book. Bitch read book. This so great, this is

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: this is one of my favorites, ultimate favorite. Do you

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01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: think absolutely I've had to be a double L and

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01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: read book. You don't know what that means? It to

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: this ball um l a to Vegas Tuesday nights at night,

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 1: Miss Fox. And then someone's like, oh my god, I

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01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to. I said, it's not

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 1: Fox News. Yeah right, they two different things. Boo. I

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01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: thought they were supporting the evil Conglomerate no, two different things,

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: and Disney has bought us now anyway, exactly right, thank you, bye,

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: thank you President. No, please, no, they stick in your life.

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01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: You just hear that they want to possibly buy the

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01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: five G like the network, and the government wants to

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01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,919
Speaker 1: buy five G network and then have the phone companies

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01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: rent from them. That just came out to day. No,

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01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't know as they think because they think that

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01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: China is going to spy on us through the five

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01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: G network and they want to control it and have

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01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: this phone company's rent from them. I'm just saying, wow,

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01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: you know what China's going to spy you know what

1380
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: could happen. Oh my god, I don't even want to

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01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 1: This is this is this is getting this is getting

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: real and bleak. Okay, you dropped the baby. I think

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: this is gonna be when you finished, Mom, Mom, maybe

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: you got to bomb on me. We would have to

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01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: get up. Iconic drop, Iconic drop, And thank you everyone

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01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: for listening, and you're welcome for this. Thank you so much.

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: Nathan Lee Grant, I've had such a pleasure. You guys

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: are wonderful, are so much fun. I hope to come

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01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: back and do a little guest spot. Oh no, you

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: get any time you want it. Literally, you tell Dan

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01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: to get in touch with us and we will make

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01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: it happy. Hen there you go. Yes, usually around Awards

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01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: season we would be honor. So are you in Oscars?

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01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: You know Officionado? Yes? Okay cool. That's HPJ just looked

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01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: at me with hate in his heart because because basically

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01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: he emailed and said, I think we should do an

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01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: all Oscars episode. I said, bitch, we already did that

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Speaker 1: and here we're here, we sit. But also, h p J,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have changed the thing about this episode. And

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Speaker 1: this is all entirely like not ship of you. The

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01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: listeners need to hear exact were just probably means we

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01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: should wrap it up. We'll wrap it up, wrapping it up,

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: wrapping it up, so finishing the hat, wrapping up the app,

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01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: as Stephen Sondheim once said, wrapping up the app, wrapping

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01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: up TEP, signing in a ball, making it just so,

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: wrapping up the app, Bye, bye bye. This has been

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