Speaker 1: It's nine o one with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.
Speaker 2: Hey, you guys, welcome to another unbelievable episode of nine
Speaker 2: two one OMG with my lovely co host Jens Here.
Speaker 3: I'm here and Amy's here.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 4: Can I give this ten omgs?
Speaker 1: Can I? Amy? You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't jump to the ends.
Speaker 1: Geez, you don't even say hello anymore? Can you get
Speaker 1: so excited? She's very excited about this one? You guys, Well,
Speaker 1: this is like.
Speaker 4: This is a super Bowl for nine two one? Oh
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like what that we're coming up to the fantastic sports.
Speaker 4: This is major, Like we're leaning towards the finale when
Speaker 4: we have two left.
Speaker 1: But this is this is more like the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but freaking solid playoffs.
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys watch sports. I don't watch sports, so
Speaker 2: can you? Can you talk in times of Joyce, but.
Speaker 1: To watch sport?
Speaker 4: Maybe to give it in toy terms? It's okay.
Speaker 1: Tell me something my.
Speaker 4: Annual Nordstrom saleh.
Speaker 1: I'm reading up to what, I don't know, the final
Speaker 1: sale Nordstrom track.
Speaker 4: I don't know, yeah, exactly remember the fred Siegel when
Speaker 4: they would have that sale. Oh, man, like the day
Speaker 4: before that, the day before that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm lying up, Okay, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: Well, this is yeah, this is the this is the
Speaker 1: end of the whole big college play thing, right.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you guys so sad to see her go?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 4: Speaking of so, I started to allude to this when
Speaker 4: she first appeared Tracy Mittendorff, But now and I kind
Speaker 4: of held back as everyone's like, oh, spoilers, you know whatever.
Speaker 4: I remember being twenty and watching this episode and it
Speaker 4: being so real right now it's a little bit over
Speaker 4: the top or almost campy horror filmy.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I thought so when I was
Speaker 1: watching it, I was like, oh, this is so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But my daughter, whose twenty, was watching it and she
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I'm so scared what happened? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean, what's gonna happen? Obviously she's gonna
Speaker 1: try to kill herself and then Steve's gonna come in
Speaker 1: and save the day and it's gonna be over.
Speaker 4: So I am so happy you're saying that, because it
Speaker 4: all came back to me being twenty and being like
Speaker 4: disturbed by it, And that is why, ever forever since
Speaker 4: I cannot watch Tracy Middendorf in anything else.
Speaker 1: That's a little ex street in mine. You're saying in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four you decided at that point I'm never
Speaker 1: watching Tracy Mittendorf.
Speaker 4: Act again, well, I didn't say that, but when she
Speaker 4: pops up on things.
Speaker 1: It you're triggering bars me.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm like, and I remember, like I was twenty
Speaker 4: years old, so I was the exact same age as
Speaker 4: your kid. Like it was. So she seemed so unhinged
Speaker 4: but yet real. So it didn't seem kind of as
Speaker 4: like soapy as it does now. It felt so real,
Speaker 4: like this girl is unwell and crazy, feeling unwell, effing
Speaker 4: with my people like one.
Speaker 1: And this episode, uh is directed by James Eckhouse. I
Speaker 1: wonder if this his first episode to direct. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so happy you say that too, because I
Speaker 4: noticed some like really dramatic close ups, especially of you, Jenny,
Speaker 4: that I loved.
Speaker 2: Oh, your boyfriend gave you some close ups. Huh See,
Speaker 2: even back then there was a little thingy thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell him that I liked his harry
Speaker 1: chest back then.
Speaker 2: Maybe you pull it Brenda. Yeah, went to his house
Speaker 2: late at night. You're like, let me stroke that chest hair.
Speaker 1: You married your back hair.
Speaker 3: I'm ready for my close up, mister eck House.
Speaker 4: So what is it like for you guys watching this?
Speaker 4: Because I took me break time?
Speaker 1: What episode we're doing? Allay gez? All right right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's see. This is Season four, episode twenty nine, Truth
Speaker 1: or Consequences aired May fourth, nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: Synopsis. Donna defends Brenda when she is accused of hitting
Speaker 2: the casting couch. Lauren Kingman aka Tanya Harding will stop
Speaker 2: at nothing to get what she wants. Suzanne makes a
Speaker 2: huge announcement, and Dylan accuses Kelly of being a negative Nelly.
Speaker 1: Directed by James that Cass written by Richard Gorlance.
Speaker 4: And for the sake of this conversation, can we just
Speaker 4: like be allowed to use words like crazy in Psycho because.
Speaker 1: I know, like, pe, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: People don't always like those words, like you're not supposed
Speaker 4: to call someone crazy? But for the sake of this,
Speaker 4: can we just like go there? Because she so disturbs me.
Speaker 4: It's so disturbed.
Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want on this podcast. I
Speaker 1: think we've established that.
Speaker 4: I just it literally took me back, and I was like,
Speaker 4: she's so creepy. This is why I don't like, I
Speaker 4: can't watch her in other things. I can't remember if
Speaker 4: like Days of Our Lives was before this or after, but.
Speaker 1: And he goes after, Oh, she.
Speaker 4: Makes me so uncomfortable. And obviously it's Laura. But I
Speaker 4: will say I think Tracy Mindorf played her so well.
Speaker 1: She was great So Harley, Yeah, she was bonkers.
Speaker 4: She's got the big eyes that seemed crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like looney tune eyes.
Speaker 4: It is just I don't want to be mean, but
Speaker 4: her eyes remind me of another public figure that's in jail.
Speaker 4: Now prison. Now, what do you guys know?
Speaker 1: This is your Minnendorf.
Speaker 2: She has played literally two separate storylines in characters on
Speaker 2: the show. The whole thing with Steve and all of that,
Speaker 2: and we were all like and then we're like, okay,
Speaker 2: and she's gone. That was a huge storyline, and now
Speaker 2: this one, it's like.
Speaker 1: Maybe the writers saw in her like and the producer's like, wow,
Speaker 1: this girl is capable of going there. Let's learn her
Speaker 1: back to be that person.
Speaker 2: I'm curious if that's how it went down that they
Speaker 2: were like, now we're not ready to get rid of her. Yet,
Speaker 2: let's bring her in and do something really badass and weirdly.
Speaker 4: I wish she would come on because I wonder if
Speaker 4: she looks back and hates this or loves it.
Speaker 1: I really would love to have her on. Wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be fun?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I want to know if. Yeah, I want to know how.
Speaker 4: Yes, we've been trying, but we'll keep trying. I want
Speaker 4: to know.
Speaker 2: That's what they always say all of her cast.
Speaker 3: They're always too busy to do this.
Speaker 1: I like the air quotes. No one can see that.
Speaker 4: Maybe she does.
Speaker 3: You could see it.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know. But maybe it's so unhinged
Speaker 4: that it makes her as uncomfortable as makes me.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd love to find out. Let's ask her.
Speaker 1: But does anybody care to discuss at all? Brenda's new
Speaker 1: hairdoo in the middle of a storyline? Wait?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? You didn't notice her new hairdo? Okay,
Speaker 1: now I don't feel so bad about not noticing your
Speaker 1: hair colors. Fair Donna's hair is a good two three
Speaker 1: inches shorter. It's almost red, with like light tones streaked throughout.
Speaker 1: That was happening last episode A little bit of.
Speaker 4: The curtain bangs a bit too.
Speaker 1: It was in the middle of the episode. It literally
Speaker 1: not the episode, the just story arc like these three episodes,
Speaker 1: the Diva play thing.
Speaker 4: I did notice it. And Donna's hair is getting shorter too.
Speaker 4: I mean they're just let me all get haircut, getting
Speaker 4: crazy thing. They just don't care anymore.
Speaker 2: The hair department has lost all control at thet right
Speaker 2: for season We're like we're in charge now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, whatever I want to my.
Speaker 4: Hair fabric makers of floral print are making gobs of money.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. There was one scene with all three
Speaker 1: or four girls. Everybody was wearing a floral dress.
Speaker 4: It's so late. Okay, it's so good too.
Speaker 1: We go in order, like yeah, let's do yes. But
Speaker 1: that was my first thing. Yeah, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Brenda has short red hair.
Speaker 4: Were starting the peach bit. I don't know how come.
Speaker 1: Kelly can be so caddy with her friend Brenda when
Speaker 1: they just made up, Like, isn't she in that? Doesn't
Speaker 1: she seem super catty and like backstabby a little bit,
Speaker 1: like right there, for no reason, like I thought this
Speaker 1: was resolved, it was resolved. I feel like there was
Speaker 1: like a little.
Speaker 3: Thing missing.
Speaker 2: Is the resolve or like like you both were going
Speaker 2: for the parts.
Speaker 3: I guess you kind of made up.
Speaker 2: Then, Brent, we know that Brenda went to his house,
Speaker 2: and then the next thing you know, we're in the peach.
Speaker 1: Bit and you and Kelly and Donna are like against her,
Speaker 1: like two it's two against one. It feels very confrontational
Speaker 1: and accusatory, and they're like arms crossed, like it just
Speaker 1: feels just weird.
Speaker 4: Donna stays true to Donna though she's always like impartial,
Speaker 4: she's always fair, she's always seeing it the right way.
Speaker 4: But then she gets a little shy and just won't
Speaker 4: like super stand up for everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt like in that episode, in
Speaker 1: that scene, I mean, she was a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Kelly.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right word. Kelly's on the
Speaker 1: same team as Kelly at that moment, like disbelieving of Brenda.
Speaker 1: When I was like, Oh, that's weird for Donna to
Speaker 1: be have such a kind of an opinion without really
Speaker 1: knowing the truth.
Speaker 4: Yes, I noticed that too. It was like, Oh, she's
Speaker 4: coming over to the dark side.
Speaker 3: Composite, Actually he's coming over to the light side.
Speaker 4: My question for y'all is are these people actually good friends?
Speaker 4: Because they're mean to each other?
Speaker 1: What I mean, when did that happen? They were? They
Speaker 1: didn't used to be mean.
Speaker 4: No, In every episode there's each other conflict and drama
Speaker 4: with a resolution of them being like, I'm so glad
Speaker 4: I have you. You're my real friends. But it's like,
Speaker 4: why are y'all fighting so much? If y'all are so tight?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could have been handled so much differently. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would have thought that the girls would have been
Speaker 1: like tell us everything, Oh my god, what happened and
Speaker 1: like not saying, oh, there's a rumor and yeah, or
Speaker 1: if there was like.
Speaker 4: A rumor, wouldn't you be like f this and stand
Speaker 4: up for.
Speaker 1: Her to do this? But a man wrote this episode
Speaker 1: so well.
Speaker 4: He show made Steve a big D word because Steve
Speaker 4: is an a.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I live for the Brenda Steve fight.
Speaker 1: I live for it so.
Speaker 2: Far, And maybe it's because I knew about stuff going
Speaker 2: on behind the scenes at that point with wait was.
Speaker 1: This before the scrambled egg makeup trailer incident? Talked to me?
Speaker 1: Talked to me? Not soon before?
Speaker 4: Gives me you cannot even do that.
Speaker 1: There's not much time left for that, so it's gotta
Speaker 1: be right.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's you guys. Please, I need to know
Speaker 4: what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about this before.
Speaker 4: No give it is so bad.
Speaker 1: Tory and I were both in the makeup trailer, as
Speaker 1: the good little girls do, sit there and get their
Speaker 1: makeup done, and Iron was in there, probably shaven his chest,
Speaker 1: hair or something in there.
Speaker 3: I'm six and six getting ready two hours in makeup pair.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe somebody was. I think maybe that
Speaker 1: was a day that Shannon had something going on in
Speaker 1: her real life at transferred and she couldn't get to
Speaker 1: work on time that day. Whatever. It was, no judgment,
Speaker 1: no whatever, but I and had a real big problem
Speaker 1: with it that morning. And he came into the trailer
Speaker 1: with his breakfast burrito maybe on a you know, paper
Speaker 1: play eight super glamorous, and he was eating it. And
Speaker 1: was it her? Did she come in and he was
Speaker 1: talking to her? Or was he just she came in? Wait,
Speaker 1: help me the deil?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, So he's The makeup trailers are
Speaker 2: really long, they call them there.
Speaker 3: How many chairs really narrow?
Speaker 1: But they're like they're like twenty feet long, thirty feet long.
Speaker 2: And half of its chairs for hair, half of its
Speaker 2: chairs for makeup. So he's at one end and he's
Speaker 2: standing and I believe, Jen, you were sitting next to
Speaker 2: him getting your hair done.
Speaker 1: Correct. I was definitely within the splash zone. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: you took me.
Speaker 2: So she was there in the other side of the trailer.
Speaker 2: It opens and Shannon comes in, so they're a whole
Speaker 2: trailer apart, and then I'm here somewhere in the middle
Speaker 2: of watching this all go down. Of course donna'sn't in
Speaker 2: the middle, and she comes in and he was just
Speaker 2: fed up that she was late. It didn't matter at
Speaker 2: that point. It was just it was a consistent behavior,
Speaker 2: whether she was going through something or not, it was
Speaker 2: just happening. It set him off. Maybe he didn't like
Speaker 2: his breakfast burrito. We don't know, but Jen take it away.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: He screamed something that I will never forget. It was
Speaker 1: I can't say it on this podcast, but he was
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 2: Eggs, eggs flying everywhere all over again.
Speaker 1: Burrito but flying down over me like a like an
Speaker 1: air show. Oh no memory.
Speaker 2: Walt was probably like, oh, I'm gonna have to blurr
Speaker 2: here out again.
Speaker 1: What the heck that those are? See? These are the
Speaker 1: good memories? Was that commonplace? Yeah? Yeah, that we had
Speaker 1: all had enough of the lateness and the holding up
Speaker 1: of everyone holding up of you know, a hundred people.
Speaker 3: The crew too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just like us sitting around waiting. You know.
Speaker 3: This happened around, This.
Speaker 4: Happened during this most dramatic episode.
Speaker 1: We don't know that. I don't know which episode it's
Speaker 1: got to be in this like you know, five episode range.
Speaker 4: And then the two of them have the biggest fight
Speaker 4: pretty much ever of like definitely then and like real mudslinging,
Speaker 4: like unkind things were thrown in their fight.
Speaker 2: The lines in that scene. I was like, this is
Speaker 2: so not nine oh two and zero.
Speaker 1: This is so And she's.
Speaker 2: Like you're weak, and I was like, this is weird.
Speaker 2: Let's make one thing clear. I'm your brother's friend, not yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was what a relief.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was, just like I wrote, I think Respurrito and
Speaker 2: the sea words, So that's all I could think of
Speaker 2: watching those two.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, my god, I just.
Speaker 1: Think all the the theater acting is getting everybody just
Speaker 1: too riled up.
Speaker 3: Oh maybe it's that it's.
Speaker 1: Just not good for the gang.
Speaker 4: God don't even know.
Speaker 3: He needs a good Kumbaya moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know what. But but Steve really
Speaker 1: did look sexy at the beach when he came up
Speaker 1: to talk to Kelly and Donna and David. But he
Speaker 1: did like like silk open, like open at the bottom
Speaker 1: with his buttons. I thought he looked good.
Speaker 3: He did look good.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you must have loved Steve in this episode, Amy,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: I do love him this episode. In parts, there are
Speaker 4: parts where I'm like, you, you're being gross, like.
Speaker 5: Which parts when he which when he's just so mean
Speaker 5: to Brenda and assume it jumps on the that she
Speaker 5: slept with Roy Randolph and then almost sort.
Speaker 1: Of I love it.
Speaker 4: He almost took pleasure in spreading the rumor. And I
Speaker 4: didn't love that. Where we know how Steve is with Kelly, right,
Speaker 4: he's so loyal and supportive and everyone also has had
Speaker 4: Steve's back multiple times through thick and thin and a lot.
Speaker 1: Brenda, I mean.
Speaker 4: She's sort of not at his friends ate with him,
Speaker 4: but he just railroaded her for Laura Kingman so fast
Speaker 4: I get.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is like the first time we've
Speaker 1: seen them in a scene like this.
Speaker 2: Like just all the characters, and I understand sos kind
Speaker 2: of felt that way about each other.
Speaker 3: Now she's kind out Yeah, maybe maybe.
Speaker 4: Say it was the last I could maybe find a
Speaker 4: little bit more of a place of understanding, Like that
Speaker 4: was his girlfriend, he loved her, bubbah. But this is
Speaker 4: just Laura Kingman who already did something so troubling to
Speaker 4: Steve that it's.
Speaker 1: Just like she already like tried to send him to
Speaker 1: jail forever, and now he loves her. Wait what about
Speaker 1: the scene when she rubbing his shoulders and it's so
Speaker 1: creepy I can't even.
Speaker 4: And then she's basically rubbing his shoulders bab being like
Speaker 4: please murder Brenda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just can't you see like her the googly crazy
Speaker 1: eyes that she's making. But then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's like, are you serious? Wait? Are you serious?
Speaker 4: Unhinged? She's so unhinged with.
Speaker 3: I hate Brenda Club.
Speaker 1: I got she's.
Speaker 4: Creepy, the creepy masks on her door.
Speaker 1: But you know what that is and comedy either, you
Speaker 1: can't handle that.
Speaker 4: Then a call to missus Walsh just made me sick,
Speaker 4: Like She's like, oh, rehearsals at far and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: crazy lady. Obviously she's a amazing at playing this, but
Speaker 4: like I literally was like, no amount of money could
Speaker 4: get me to play this part. It's so whack amy.
Speaker 1: I bet there's a dollar out.
Speaker 2: Maybe when you guys love to play that part. I
Speaker 2: think you would, And I think we should re enact
Speaker 2: to see King right there?
Speaker 3: Will you?
Speaker 4: I want don't get me wrong, I want to really
Speaker 4: do for free, for free, true, I know, but that
Speaker 4: the final scene in the theater literally it was spooky,
Speaker 4: the walking in the dark and I'm like, this is
Speaker 4: a horror movie like Freddy Krueger's Coming, And then the
Speaker 4: I don't even want to like make light of it
Speaker 4: because it was so.
Speaker 1: What Wait, but before that, what about when Steve says,
Speaker 1: I think he's talking to like Brandon and Kelly and
Speaker 1: maybe Donna at the coffee shop whatever, and he calls
Speaker 1: her wacko with a capital J. What he says, she's
Speaker 1: wacko with a capital J.
Speaker 3: Because during that time, wacko jacko, like Mike.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: Mickey joke he was making Alan.
Speaker 4: He also said her driveway doesn't go all the way
Speaker 4: to the streets.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of like that one.
Speaker 4: That one was less sort of disturbing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then that whole that whole scene with it
Speaker 1: in the where you know she's going to the theater.
Speaker 1: You know she's gonna do something tragic. Justing that slip dress.
Speaker 3: God, I loved her.
Speaker 4: She puts the dress back on and she's like full
Speaker 4: glam and the rope she's she knows how to tie
Speaker 4: the rope.
Speaker 1: It's the Justling and the Monkey movie in the big
Speaker 1: in the what's the movie with the giant monkey?
Speaker 4: And can con can go?
Speaker 6: Get gone?
Speaker 1: Totally?
Speaker 2: But all I could think is the last moment, I
Speaker 2: was like, she she hasn't had to tie a rope's.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 1: She's flustered, she's emotional and she forgot how to tie
Speaker 1: a Yeah, but I was thinking.
Speaker 4: This baby, it was so dramatic. I can't believe Jim
Speaker 4: Walsh directed this.
Speaker 3: Another one of my favorite parts. You Beverly Hills people.
Speaker 1: She was so good. That was like, oh, it was good.
Speaker 1: I love that scene when they come out of the
Speaker 1: theater and she's like running and he catches her and
Speaker 1: she beats on him for a minute and it runs
Speaker 1: away and she hugs him and then she beats on
Speaker 1: him somewhere.
Speaker 4: It's so good. I speaking of running, I also love
Speaker 4: when Steve is running and smacks right dab into Brenda
Speaker 4: and kind of it's almost like a hug. And then
Speaker 4: he's like she's gone to the theater to do something
Speaker 4: terrible to herself. And then Brenda takes off like she's
Speaker 4: wonder woman Linda Carter like I was.
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 4: I don't want to like I made a special I
Speaker 4: didn't make it, but I picked up a special salmon
Speaker 4: and like salad and like I had a little salmon
Speaker 4: and a little steak. I'm not gonna lie and.
Speaker 1: I will date night with yourself.
Speaker 4: I was in my bed eating salmon, watching this thing
Speaker 4: go down, like I knew how amazing it was, and
Speaker 4: I was like I cannot get enough. Suddenly, then the
Speaker 4: chocolate covered oreo. I'm just reaching for that, like.
Speaker 2: I was, And it felt a little like escalated to
Speaker 2: like Melrose Place a little bit would.
Speaker 4: Like Marcia Cross pulling off her hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in guys, I really liked it too.
Speaker 1: And then in the end when poor Brenda, it's just
Speaker 1: such a it's so hard being an actress. You gotta
Speaker 1: get you gotta get used to it. Hun, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's nothing, Joey.
Speaker 3: Here, How did how did Brenda get the part from Laura?
Speaker 3: What did she put a spell on her?
Speaker 1: Hey? Did you shadowing?
Speaker 4: Uncharmed?
Speaker 1: Yes, that was such foreshadowing.
Speaker 4: The whole thing. I just haven't recovered from it.
Speaker 2: Like, and you didn't have to enjoy them live in
Speaker 2: the moment. This is brilliant. I was on her back
Speaker 2: next week. I don't want this to be over.
Speaker 1: I loved the theater.
Speaker 4: And how about the fact that Brandon thought maybe she
Speaker 4: did it?
Speaker 1: Brandon, maybe he doesn't believe his his twin.
Speaker 2: Sister because he's just as much of a snake. He's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I slept.
Speaker 1: I'm about to.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna hook up with the Chancellor's
Speaker 1: daughter any minute.
Speaker 3: Oh right, I slept with the.
Speaker 2: Professor and then Mary Wise then and now I'm gonna
Speaker 2: to sleep with the Chancellor's daughter. Mirandrew went from like
Speaker 2: good boy to like but as long as.
Speaker 1: He's wearing a tie. You believe him, because what about
Speaker 1: when he wears a tie in the peach pit for
Speaker 1: no reason. I was angry at that, and then he
Speaker 1: goes to the Chancellor's office for actual like a professional meeting,
Speaker 1: has no tie on.
Speaker 2: I was really angry why he was wearing that tie
Speaker 2: in the peach bit was super distracting.
Speaker 3: And I didn't like it.
Speaker 4: Apparently he didn't like it either, because he took it.
Speaker 4: He gotta talk about Andrea and Claire. But first of all,
Speaker 4: I think Donna thinks she didn't do it. Dylan knows
Speaker 4: she didn't do it. Kelly is like pretty much thinks
Speaker 4: she didn't do it. But it's like hmm, Steve's like
Speaker 4: hook line and sinker she did it. Brandon, I think
Speaker 4: thinks she did it. And Andrea, in a shocking turn,
Speaker 4: I also think maybe think she did it.
Speaker 1: It's the hormones. She's She's all over the place. Andrea,
Speaker 1: let can't help us, Kevin and Suzanne for a minute,
Speaker 1: do we want to talk about Geraldo Rivera? Did you guys?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 3: I cannot look at that man. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Is that a fake mustache?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I can't watch him. They think
Speaker 2: that man, good actor, nothing against him, great look, but
Speaker 2: not for this or anything or anything.
Speaker 4: My problem in watching it and it's not this is
Speaker 4: not a spoiler spoiler alert. I know what happens, and
Speaker 4: so everything he does feels creepy and double.
Speaker 1: It's like he's gonna be a swindler. So what tak
Speaker 1: a look at it? Yeah? Who he's tipping the hat?
Speaker 1: What's that called tip in the hat?
Speaker 4: Yes? Did you see the weird side eye?
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that one moment when he's like talking about
Speaker 1: Dylan or he's saying he's got a plan or something.
Speaker 4: And he's just with the weird the the so obvious
Speaker 4: creepy side eye.
Speaker 1: And then of course they cut away to Dylan, who's
Speaker 1: casually just looking the other way, doesn't see it. I'm
Speaker 1: like this guy, but he's just such a sucker with Ken.
Speaker 1: What when did Dylan become so gullible? Like what you
Speaker 1: would think that this character would be like onto this
Speaker 1: guy or right, like he's always got some intuition about people.
Speaker 4: Well, he was literally caught up in a thing where
Speaker 4: his father was allegedly killed. You don't think he's distrusting
Speaker 4: of people? I would he shouldn't trust anybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just convenient he finds out.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like banana shock, Like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen with that. I'm guessing they're going
Speaker 1: to try to take Dylan's money.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well I hope it happens soon because
Speaker 2: I can't look at his mustache anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And Dylan is being a little just prickly to kill
Speaker 1: what prickly you might and take the L and the
Speaker 1: y off of that word, and that's what he's being.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I had to spell that in my
Speaker 3: head for a second. Okay, p R I c k.
Speaker 1: Believe that. I am so sick of the way he
Speaker 1: talks to her. I want to punch him, Like who
Speaker 1: why would anybody in the departments above not like let
Speaker 1: these two characters I don't know, Like they are acting
Speaker 1: like two old married people who hate e Chose.
Speaker 4: And he's so team Brenda that it is mean to
Speaker 4: your girlfriend, like.
Speaker 1: Like why would she sick? Why would she stay for
Speaker 1: any of it? Mm hmm. I don't like it. I
Speaker 1: don't like it at all.
Speaker 4: It's it's rough.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that's going to end soon. Here I am.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking ahead to this. Dylan and Kelly are going
Speaker 1: to break up for shows, that's gotta happen. They can't see.
Speaker 1: Then who is he gonna be with al? Isn't she
Speaker 1: coming in? I don't know, Claire, you never know on
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 4: Could be da.
Speaker 1: Just for a minute. No, okay, what about when when?
Speaker 1: The only other thing I noted was when Jason no
Speaker 1: Brandon Brendan Brendon.
Speaker 4: I'm sick of Steve calling him Brendan. His name is Brandon. Sorry,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 1: He's telling Jimbo that he's going to go to the
Speaker 1: big conference because he's so important, and he's telling him
Speaker 1: that about the Chancellor's daughter and and and dad's advice
Speaker 1: or I guess like way of telling him, well, remember, Brandon,
Speaker 1: every father's daughter is a virgin. What ew is that
Speaker 1: something that fathers say to their sons. Remember every father's daughter,
Speaker 1: it's a virgin.
Speaker 3: No, that's gross.
Speaker 1: I don't break it down.
Speaker 4: Here's what I think though. Jim was saying the dad's
Speaker 4: gonna stick with the daughter, and then Claire basically Mike
Speaker 4: dropped on Brandon and was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, She's like you'll see you dumb ass.
Speaker 4: You just went and like tried to out me to
Speaker 4: my dad who I am his pride and joy. He
Speaker 4: will never pick you over me. Mike drop. I loved it.
Speaker 1: She goes, well, you just shot yourself in the foot,
Speaker 1: and he goes, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6: She goes, you'll see and she walks off.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'm so sorry to bring up Laura
Speaker 7: Kingman again, but can we talk about the dramatic scene
Speaker 7: where she's fired by Roy Randolph and she drops that
Speaker 7: buck in front of Brenda waiting bitch.
Speaker 1: I was always waiting. I was like, uh, oh, she's
Speaker 1: gonna throw down right now. Oh, I would have loved
Speaker 1: to have that.
Speaker 4: Brenda's just locking down, looking down, So good acting by
Speaker 4: everybody in the room being uncumped, because so was I
Speaker 4: just looking down. Now.
Speaker 1: Did you notice, though, when when Brenda comes that day
Speaker 1: to when she's late for the thing because Laura miss
Speaker 1: messed up the schedule for her. She comes and she
Speaker 1: walks up the little theater stairs on the edge of
Speaker 1: the theater, and all the other the background actors are
Speaker 1: in the play. They're walking down, they're walking out, and
Speaker 1: they're just staring at her like oh, and then there's
Speaker 1: one guy in particular at the top of the stairs
Speaker 1: who took it so literal he but made like you
Speaker 1: just wouldn't stop. So he's like, yeah, I could stop
Speaker 1: watching him watch her. My god, there's.
Speaker 4: So much in this. And then Brenda goes to Roy's
Speaker 4: pad and he's out on his weird know where he lives,
Speaker 4: isn't he's a teacher, Like.
Speaker 1: What more with Andrea and the teacher at the beach
Speaker 1: when teachers live.
Speaker 4: I don't know one teacher ever lived.
Speaker 1: No, no, I didn't know that they had a house,
Speaker 1: Like you don't think of them not real human beings.
Speaker 2: Oh, like I remember you used to see them getting
Speaker 2: cars and leave and you'd be like, wait they leave here.
Speaker 4: Wait car children, they're married? What I guess he's got
Speaker 4: as weird. He's trying to get his tan. He's got
Speaker 4: a shirt on button and he's in his like weird
Speaker 4: backyard of like literally it looked like an apartment in
Speaker 4: like Westwood.
Speaker 1: You like AstroTurf uh wall walls and stuff like I
Speaker 1: don't know. But then when he looked, but there was
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing. Okay, So Brenda's over here, like Brenda's
Speaker 1: here talking to him, and he's here lounging with his
Speaker 1: chest out. It's creepy. And then for her, she's off
Speaker 1: camera right and he's talking to her like she's just
Speaker 1: off camera, like just to the right or left the camera,
Speaker 1: and the look like he's looking like he's looking off
Speaker 1: into space, like into Mars, like into the depths of darkness.
Speaker 1: He can't there's no connection with his eyeballs and a person,
Speaker 1: a human that he's talking to. I was like, who
Speaker 1: is he talking to? Then I was like, remember sometimes
Speaker 1: when we would have to leave early for whether it
Speaker 1: was double us, we had to go get pushed over
Speaker 1: to the other set or something, or we had to
Speaker 1: be wrapped at a certain time, so they would make
Speaker 1: us leave, and then they would finish up scenes with
Speaker 1: other actors talking to either the script supervisor off camera,
Speaker 1: or like to a tape that they taped to the camera,
Speaker 1: which was we were always be like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can totally talk to a tape mark, But you could
Speaker 1: always tell when someone's talking to a tape mark because
Speaker 1: they're talking to a tape maark Like, there's no no
Speaker 1: reality that good of an actor that they can just
Speaker 1: talk to tape. Now you're really you really should have
Speaker 1: somebody there off camera, even if it's not real. Brenda,
Speaker 1: I just had some weird flashback.
Speaker 2: Did did Shannon like this actor? I feel like she
Speaker 2: didn't like him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I was her, I wouldn't like him, but.
Speaker 3: I remember, I wonder if there's any friction.
Speaker 4: He was such a me too or twenty thirty years
Speaker 4: for me too. And then he's even had to agree,
Speaker 4: like to get the job, but he's not going to
Speaker 4: have shenanigans. I was just like, who's hiring this guy?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 1: Was that in the meeting when they hired him, like
Speaker 1: they said, you're not going to do this.
Speaker 4: So he's like, look, I don't like it either because
Speaker 4: it makes me look bad.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, oh god, he was groady bad.
Speaker 4: Poor Tanya Harding got a real bad shout out too.
Speaker 1: Not that was like right when it was going down.
Speaker 1: That's the whole, when the whole Nancy and Tanya du
Speaker 1: bacle happened.
Speaker 4: There are some pop culture references in this that that
Speaker 4: stood the test time, like that one You're like, I
Speaker 4: know what's up?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean good, good, good writing, dramatic and crazy yeah,
Speaker 4: like kind of like.
Speaker 1: What is going on? I can't stop watching this.
Speaker 4: You have one flag that I want to know if
Speaker 4: you guys noticed. It was when they were going to
Speaker 4: the lab right and they sort of show i think
Speaker 4: the exterior of the lab that looked like stock footage
Speaker 4: from nineteen seventy two, Like what the fudge? Every car?
Speaker 4: I was like, where did you guys get that?
Speaker 1: Well, if you're a scientist and you work in a lab,
Speaker 1: you're just kind of behind the times.
Speaker 4: So it was like just I'm like, did they get
Speaker 4: that from The Incredible Hulk from nineteen seventy whatever? Because
Speaker 4: I'm like, what is it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That scene was so boring up and.
Speaker 4: I think he's putting nothing in the water. He's like,
Speaker 4: drop drop, you can drink it now, And I'm like,
Speaker 4: that dude did not do anything to that water. It's
Speaker 4: not drinkable. He's he's like a he's a.
Speaker 1: Faker, but he's he's magic. He can clean the water
Speaker 1: in the bays. If only he could have some money
Speaker 1: from Dylan.
Speaker 3: Stay and take the storyline. I I hate it so much.
Speaker 3: It's so boring, so boring.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Why would Steve fall for Laura?
Speaker 1: I don't that's like because she's hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is.
Speaker 4: She seems unhinged from the go, but the.
Speaker 1: Guys can't see that. And also Steve's the kind of
Speaker 1: guy that wants to fix people and help them.
Speaker 4: I suppose. But if somebody wanted to, like, have you
Speaker 4: expelled from school? Would you not like remember that and
Speaker 4: be like I'm not gonna yeah, probably be like I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Hello, can I refresh your memories? Emily Valentine trying to
Speaker 2: light everything on fire? She actually and then seasons later
Speaker 2: he summons like, I want to spend forever with you,
Speaker 2: go to Paeris with you.
Speaker 3: I'll remember you, and he never remembers her, does.
Speaker 1: Not once, never, not once, because never even talks about
Speaker 1: her again.
Speaker 4: Nope, they're all thinking with their zippers.
Speaker 1: But this is the last time we see Laura.
Speaker 4: H Yeah, because she was literally taken away by too
Speaker 4: Like those weren't police officers, those were like medical professionals.
Speaker 1: I kind of yeah, like you, they've had a different
Speaker 1: outfit on you know that they were mental health team.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to go with her to the
Speaker 1: cuckoo bin and see what happens. That sounds like fun.
Speaker 1: I want to see bad episodes that's a good movie.
Speaker 4: Grip Laura like that's gonna work. Steve get a grip like,
Speaker 4: oh god, she's.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think we've said everything there's to
Speaker 1: say about this episode is Wait, so is Claire going
Speaker 1: to go to Washington with Brandon? Yeah, Claire nodding yes, yes, yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: keeps getting good.
Speaker 3: And now I remember.
Speaker 1: What something worse than handy handcuffing herself to the bed?
Speaker 3: Somebody worse than a handy?
Speaker 1: What something worse than handcuffing herself to the bed in lingerie?
Speaker 1: That there's more?
Speaker 4: Yes? Oh yes, I god, because I can't see.
Speaker 1: I thought that when Brandon went to Washington was kind
Speaker 1: of when Kelly and Brandon started to go out.
Speaker 3: You'll see, Oh wait, what that's happening too?
Speaker 1: Season five?
Speaker 4: This is the super Bowl is coming so whoa Celeste
Speaker 4: is coming back? And so is John Sears? Right, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Crazy what John Sears is back?
Speaker 4: Pretty sure? Wait.
Speaker 1: I walked into my kids room the other day and
Speaker 1: I saw John Sears on Party of Nope, One Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, it's the same exact character.
Speaker 1: Did you get triggered?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay? I was literally like, why is John Sears on.
Speaker 1: This show was a different show.
Speaker 4: Oh you guys, this was so this was so good,
Speaker 4: so bad and so good.
Speaker 1: But when I watched about it years ago, it was
Speaker 1: more dressed.
Speaker 3: They put Andrea in It's like.
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my god.
Speaker 4: That was not like there's a.
Speaker 3: Way to make a pregnant woman look cute.
Speaker 2: Still, It's like it's like they just literally took yeah,
Speaker 2: she under and said, here we go.
Speaker 1: This is it, taking up the one thing.
Speaker 4: Can't stay in the bed too. She's getting the mail,
Speaker 4: she's getting an apple.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's getting sassy too with your apple swinging. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like the medications making her nuts. Did you ever
Speaker 1: go on bedress with any of your kids store your pregnancies?
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like months of bed rest for the Yeah,
Speaker 2: with Finn the fourth one, I was in Cedars for
Speaker 2: like almost three months.
Speaker 1: Well not not the Cedars hospital part of it all,
Speaker 1: but just in bed rest. Sounds like a dream, right, Oh.
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't like that at all going on.
Speaker 1: I would be so happy if someone said you have
Speaker 1: to lay down and take it.
Speaker 3: Easy for yeah, like a medical version, but one like
Speaker 3: just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's best if you get off your feet. Oh okay, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, thank you. Well, I feel like we've
Speaker 1: uncovered everything there is to uncover.
Speaker 4: Let me just take a quick on this episode.
Speaker 2: And you know what all I want right now now
Speaker 2: that we're done here is a breakfast burrito. I just
Speaker 2: want a breakfast burrito.
Speaker 1: Hold the eggs?
Speaker 3: Did you ever get the eggs out of your bangs?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it looks so good that day. Okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: next week, we got you guys, have.
Speaker 4: To you guys it. Oh hmm, I give it a
Speaker 4: one hundred of ten. Eight Is that an eight?
Speaker 1: She gives it a nine. Nine, I get it an eight.
Speaker 4: Jenny's giving it an eight.
Speaker 3: I can't put this finger down without this finger going down.
Speaker 4: I give it put the thumb down a hundred.
Speaker 3: Oh god, so smart.
Speaker 1: You gave it a ten.
Speaker 4: And call me Margaret Maggie the cat.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, why didn't we talk about that. I
Speaker 1: literally wanted to just put my what through the TV
Speaker 1: at that moment. She's like, call me Margaret. Until I
Speaker 1: really get a hold on the character.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh god. And Laura's just.
Speaker 1: Oh, good times, good time.
Speaker 4: Everybody we are shout out to Sorry, shout out to
Speaker 4: me being right. John Sears does come back, celest Is
Speaker 4: coming back, Lucinda's coming back.
Speaker 2: Buckle up, every Lucinda's coming back. Oh, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a wild ride. Can't wait for it.
Speaker 1: I better yeah, rest up, I gotta better.
Speaker 2: Great direct get paid less in these last two episodes
Speaker 2: because they had to pay so many damn guest stars
Speaker 2: to come back.
Speaker 4: Good directing, mister Walsh, good directing. This was a hard
Speaker 4: he had all that stuff.
Speaker 1: He did a great job.
Speaker 2: If he would ever come on our podcast, we would
Speaker 2: tell them.
Speaker 4: He's too busy.
Speaker 2: How amazing, he's too busy.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, okay, well last Amy, you weren't there. And Tori,
Speaker 1: I think I told you about this. But on the
Speaker 1: panel and wherever I was austin the ax, the lady asked,
Speaker 1: one of the gladies asks in the audience, who do
Speaker 1: you wish you if you could have like a dream
Speaker 1: guest on your episode, who would it be? And I was,
Speaker 1: like anyone on our cast I heard about this is that.
Speaker 1: I was really happy when she told me she did that.
Speaker 4: I heard it very proud.
Speaker 1: Everybody laughed. So everybody that watches our podcast kind of
Speaker 1: knew what I was referring to.
Speaker 4: I got text immediately. They're like, list what you said.
Speaker 1: I was over it anyway. We have another episode coming
Speaker 1: up next week, Vital Signs. I feel like a baby's coming.
Speaker 5: Uh beepeep beep beep beep beep beepe trouble.
Speaker 4: There's a little trouble.
Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, don't tell her to remember, don't tell us.
Speaker 1: All right, we're going to watch it together. We're going
Speaker 1: to watch it next week, and until then, we love you, guys.