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Speaker 1: What up? Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, Welcome back. We got

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Speaker 1: a jam packed episode for you guys today, because last

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Speaker 1: night's episode was jam packed. We had blasts from the past, Heather, Martin,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron, a two on one or the conclusion of it,

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Speaker 1: We had a one on one. We somebody went home unexpectedly.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start. Well, I'll start

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Speaker 1: with this. We've got a great guest on today like

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Speaker 1: we always do, and today we're having on Piper James.

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Speaker 1: We saw her, she had her romantic carnival date, her

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Speaker 1: one on one. Finally she's been itching for it, all

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Speaker 1: of the ladies have, and so we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to her about those details, talk to her about some

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Speaker 1: things that went down and last night's episode, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: get a better understanding of what we have going on here. Becas,

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Speaker 1: what did you think about last night's episode? Like overall? Overall?

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Speaker 1: I mean like I was watching four different episodes wropped

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Speaker 1: up into one because like you said, we and we

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Speaker 1: started with the end of a two on one rose ceremony.

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Speaker 1: Then we get into the dates. Then we have blasts

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Speaker 1: from the past. Heather comes back and causing him cool

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Speaker 1: at a start. It was just it was a lot

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Speaker 1: like I think, I'm starting to realize this a view

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Speaker 1: where I need a proper start, middle, and end, and

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Speaker 1: we haven't gotten that, I feel like at all this season.

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Speaker 1: Same with last season, and so it's it's a struggle.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, we should just get into some of

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Speaker 1: our main highlights because I have a bone to pick

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Speaker 1: with Matt and I'm just gonna start it with this.

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Speaker 1: This happened in the middle of the episode, but he

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Speaker 1: sent our girl Katie home. He sent her home, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, I love Katie so much that like

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Speaker 1: this was the first one where I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: do you think he ever thought he made a mistake?

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Speaker 1: Like I still wanted her back. But that's just me personally,

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Speaker 1: because you know, Shaker, I love Katie, Katie for Bounce.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that till the day I die. But um,

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Speaker 1: let's just start. I guess going back to the top

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Speaker 1: of this two on one, wait, is the bone of

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Speaker 1: pick is that he sent Katie home. Yes, Becca compare,

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Speaker 1: Katie was friend zoned from the moment she brought the vibrator.

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Speaker 1: That is true. I bet if we had asked Katie

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Speaker 1: this question. She has a history of being friend zoned.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that she's because because she can

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Speaker 1: hang with the guys. And I'm saying this from a

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Speaker 1: person myself who like used to be the master of

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Speaker 1: friend zoning herself because you're just so cool that people

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Speaker 1: can't see the romantic side. There was nothing romantic right

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Speaker 1: right right? Actually agreement now because I remember at one

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Speaker 1: point and this I thought it in another episode two.

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Speaker 1: I think when she first went to him and was like,

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Speaker 1: there's really toxic behavior happening. Talk to the girls about that.

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Speaker 1: And then and right when they got together on their date,

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Speaker 1: like there, I don't think they ever kissed. We never

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Speaker 1: once saw them kiss. I don't even know if really

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Speaker 1: really truly saw them hugged that much they kissed on

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Speaker 1: this one. I think they kissed before they kissed on

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Speaker 1: this date. And I'm like you when they did it,

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Speaker 1: I was like, huh have we seen this before? That's weird.

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Speaker 1: Total he brode her out. I mean, my god, he

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Speaker 1: brought her like. He was way more into Tyler on

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Speaker 1: that date than he was with I'm gonna go I

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Speaker 1: have a massage. He was Tyler has been his favorite date.

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Speaker 1: He has been more into Tyler than he has been

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Speaker 1: with any of the women. The joy, not happiness that

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Speaker 1: I know we're jumping around, but the pure joy on

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Speaker 1: Matt James's face. We saw all his teeth, his mouth

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Speaker 1: with smile was to his ears. He was rolling over laughing.

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Speaker 1: I meant, yes, it's one thousand percent. He was more

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Speaker 1: excited to see Tyler. But when he went in from

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Speaker 1: that massage, but like, he went in so nicely, it

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Speaker 1: was trying to be intimate. He was washing his hands

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I feel like I'm watching

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Speaker 1: a little bit too much. And then when he went

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Speaker 1: in to hug Matt, all I could think about was like,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get all this uh oil. I was gonna

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Speaker 1: just say, lou but it's oil on your sweater. I

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Speaker 1: was like, don't do that. Carrie Putman, We'll have a

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Speaker 1: bone to pick with you too, Sir. Did you notice

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Speaker 1: that he can't wink When he's telling Katie what he's

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Speaker 1: I rewound it to make sure. I said, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Matt James can't wink. He's like it's the only time

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Speaker 1: I listen. I was shocked. I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: winked both. By God, that kid watch it. I want

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Speaker 1: everyone to be watching Rachel do this too, because as

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Speaker 1: you do it, you like turtle up with your shoulders too.

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Speaker 1: It's like a full body reaction. Oh, think of all

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Speaker 1: the memes that are going to come out with this.

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Speaker 1: Fun can't wait, But I think, yeah, I will. Okay,

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Speaker 1: since we're on the topic of this one on one date,

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Speaker 1: I would have loved this date. There would be behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes to be just like messing with somebody, not

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Speaker 1: romantic at all, but so much fun. It would be fun.

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Speaker 1: But if you're Katie, you've got to see the riding

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Speaker 1: on the wall. He like, there was nothing romantic about

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Speaker 1: that date. Right. Maybe she didn't think she was gonna

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Speaker 1: get sent home, but she definitely wasn't going to get

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Speaker 1: a rose at the at the next rose ceremony. Right.

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Speaker 1: It was such a missed opportunity to to not bring

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Speaker 1: out the vibrator and put it on like Tyler's back

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Speaker 1: during this massage really put it somewhere to start hearing

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Speaker 1: it vibrate that that's actually a really good idea. There

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Speaker 1: were a lot of miss moments. I thought they're laughing

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Speaker 1: so hard. Did they do things that were just too

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Speaker 1: hot for TV? Because her rolling on Tyler's head is

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Speaker 1: not funny to me? Where is the like once we

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Speaker 1: got to the nipples, there was nothing else there, Like

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Speaker 1: there could there could have been so many other things.

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Speaker 1: I felt like they could have done and make this

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Speaker 1: more spicy or for Tyler to have like a bigger

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Speaker 1: reaction to. And Tyler totally liked. When she was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's hotter in person, Tyler looked up like, yeah, I am.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even disturbed that the woman was talking about him.

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Speaker 1: He was like, that's right, go go run tell that

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Speaker 1: to everybody else. And then she just keeps turning his

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Speaker 1: if they can do a whole erotic book speaking day

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Speaker 1: talking about everyone's deepest, darkest fantasies, they could have gone

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Speaker 1: a little bit more balls to the walls. Yeah, she

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Speaker 1: could have been like can you remove your towel? You know,

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Speaker 1: like at this point we've reached the point in the

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Speaker 1: you know, like just something wild. I'm just picturing now

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Speaker 1: Phoebe from Friends when she's giving somebody a massage and

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Speaker 1: she bites the butt. Okay, that probably would have been

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Speaker 1: a little bit illegal, but okay, but she's we have

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Speaker 1: no more bachelor, badchelorette ladies and gentlemen. That was the

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Speaker 1: end of the show. Like, there's so many things. Okay

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Speaker 1: this point, you feed me strawberries. Okay, now we're gonna

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Speaker 1: put the chocolate syrup, like I don't know there was

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Speaker 1: whipped cream, so miss opportunity. There were so many things

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Speaker 1: that could have been done. Yeah, so that's your bone

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Speaker 1: to pick with Matt. That makes sense. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I get it. We like Katie, but Matt didn't like

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Speaker 1: her in that way. But you know what, even when

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Speaker 1: think any lead maybe from what I can remember, has

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Speaker 1: he recognized how she you know, like would say in

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Speaker 1: of the girls. But like still, I mean, like from

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Speaker 1: liked how he actually was attentive to that part about it.

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Speaker 1: You know how I read that, thank you, Katie, your

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Speaker 1: services are no longer needed here. I have cleaned house.

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Speaker 1: I have cleaned house, I've gotten rid of the drama,

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Speaker 1: and you are no longer needed. That's how I read

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Speaker 1: that moment. Oh, sometimes this is why I love doing

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Speaker 1: to have a little fun, but it's time for you

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Speaker 1: to go home. Rachel. On your season, did you get

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Speaker 1: rid of anyone on a one on one date or

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Speaker 1: was it all during rose ceremonies? M No, I got

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Speaker 1: rid of people on group. Yes, I got rid of Jackstone.

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Speaker 1: Oh about what? Yes, Jackstone. For those of you who

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Speaker 1: are not can't see that that was me imitating him.

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Speaker 1: We all remember that. Look, okay, Jackstone, I got rid

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Speaker 1: gonna be called read the Room, whether you were able

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Speaker 1: the Room properly is Serena See. Oh yeah, Serena See

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of these girls, but today this episode

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Speaker 1: is Serena See. And I'll tell you why you have

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Speaker 1: seen Victoria Anna. Who else am I missing m j

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Speaker 1: all go home because of the drama that they created unnecessarily,

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Speaker 1: especially at this point in the journey. Yet you decide,

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Speaker 1: if you didn't see all of these other people go home,

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Speaker 1: you see that Matt isn't playing games anymore, and you

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Speaker 1: just start to cause unnecessary drama with a person you

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Speaker 1: know is really not about the drama, but about letting

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Speaker 1: Matt know he needs to handle drama in the house.

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Speaker 1: I mean, were you not sitting here at the moment

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Speaker 1: saying Serena, this can't end well for you in no way?

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Speaker 1: Like girl, you know you got the rose at the

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Speaker 1: end of the rose ceremony to do this shit, and

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Speaker 1: so much of these some of these women and the conversations,

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Speaker 1: Like I keep using the words bizarre and delusional because

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Speaker 1: I truly like, as if viewer, things don't add up

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Speaker 1: to me. And so watching her confront Katie and basically

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Speaker 1: for like things Katie hasn't even done, I'm like, did

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Speaker 1: I miss something? Like there's such a disconnect and you know,

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Speaker 1: just like, girl, you're pulling something from a week or

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Speaker 1: I'll say is, if Hannah Brown was telling you that

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Speaker 1: you would be great with Matt when she returned from quarantine,

428
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: was she not telling Matt, hey, you'd be great with

429
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Speaker 1: my friend Heather. I'm pretty sure she was, and he

430
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Speaker 1: didn't act on it. Men are very simple. If Matt

431
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: was interested in Heather, he would have pursued her before

432
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: coming on The Bachelor, but he didn't, And even if

433
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: he did, he felt it was a better opportunity for

434
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: him to go on the show rather than pursue something

435
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, what are you doing? Well, one point, Blake,

436
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: anyone's gonna, you know, have this opportunity and probably pick

437
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: being the lead over anything, regardless at that point in

438
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: their life. So I would have I would have flown

439
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: to you Becca and said, this is a bad idea,

440
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: Please don't do this. This in no way can this

441
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: end well for you? It just can't. And I just,

442
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to talk to Heather on

443
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: the podcast. But I've all, I would love to know

444
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: why you thought it was a good idea. Maybe, you know, like,

445
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: help me understand why you thought this was a good Actually,

446
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: I really don't care who's coming on our podcast today.

447
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: Who's the guest? Let's begin the guest. I actually really

448
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm lying, y'all, I don't care. You know,

449
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: speaking of guests, She's been a favorite of our sins beginning,

450
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: and you know, we could reacat for hours, but why

451
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: not just get to know the girl for who she is,

452
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: the incredible woman that we're starting to finally see. So

453
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: with that, I think it's just time that we bring

454
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: her on because last night she was the one who

455
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: had her first romantic one on one of the season

456
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: and we can't wait to hear all about it and

457
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: then some. So please welcome Piper. Welcome Piper. We're so

458
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: excited to have you on Bachelor Happy Hour. And before

459
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: we get started, I think both of us want to

460
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: say we're excited to have you today because we've had

461
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: this conversation about some of the girls where we're really

462
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: not fully getting to know you for you, you know,

463
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: there's been so much drama wrapped up in each and

464
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: every episode that your first one on one, we really

465
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: got to see more. But that's why we wanted to

466
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: have you. Here is where we can hear it from you.

467
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: You can give us everything of who Piper James is,

468
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: how she got to be where she is. So with

469
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: that welcome, how are you? I'm really well, how are

470
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: you guys? Good? Good, happy to talk to you. For

471
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: all of our listeners who obviously can't see the background's

472
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: pipers background is stunning right now? Where are you? Where

473
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: do you live? Where are you based? So I'm currently

474
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: at home in Oregon? So you know, this is Oregon.

475
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: This is what it is. And luckily it's not pouring

476
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: down rain today, which is always a treat in the winter. Here. Wait,

477
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: is it like always raining? Is it? Is it very

478
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: twilight ish, very twilight, always raining, looney, snuggle up in

479
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: a blanket weather? That's what? Do you like? That? Do

480
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: you like? Is Oregon like some places you always want

481
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: to be? No? I mean I'm not trying to move

482
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to move to New York, so it's

483
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: not like I'm trying to be But um I love Oregon.

484
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: I you know, I went to undergrad here. Um, it's

485
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: just a little a little too cold and a little

486
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: too small town vibes, even if you're in Portland, the

487
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: big city girl. You're talking do a girl who lived

488
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: in Minnesota and now I moved to LA and I

489
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: feel like I'm thriving here, So I totally get it. Yeah.

490
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: One thing that I want to start off the bat

491
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: asking you because this is the first this is the

492
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: first moment that the world saw Piper is Night one.

493
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: You come out of the limo, and I think I

494
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: said this when we recapped that episode, was your entrance

495
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: was one of my favorites because of what you said,

496
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: which was something along the lines that your dad really

497
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: wanted you and your sisters to keep your last name.

498
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: Now is that something he's always expressed to you? How

499
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? Because I loved it, Like

500
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, you go, girl, you have

501
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: Well obviously that wouldn't potentially have to change his last

502
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: name if that was the case, but like, you make

503
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: that man change or work for your name. Yeah, my

504
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: dad has always said to my sisters and I and

505
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: I only had sisters. I don't have any brothers. So

506
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: my dad was like yeah, you're gonna keep your last name.

507
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't really a question of if for you know,

508
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: it was like, that's going to happen. And I like

509
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: my name Piper jeans like it rolls off the tug.

510
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: So I was always like down for that. And so,

511
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's so perfect meeting that and being like

512
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: I get to express it to someone. It's not a

513
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: conversation that you have to have down the line of

514
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: who's like the last name? The last name conversation so perfect.

515
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: How many how many sisters? Two? Two? Yeah? Where do

516
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: you fall? I'm the oldest. They're twins, um two and

517
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: a half years younger. Okay, okay, yes, So Piper piggybacking

518
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: on what I almost called you Rebecca. I've never in

519
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: my life said Rebecca, I have learning trouble. I have

520
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: been no idea where that was coming from. I'm stopped myself,

521
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: um picking piggybacking on Becca. No, Becca said, I said,

522
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why I love your name, but I've

523
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: called you Becca. Um it has been and I want

524
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: to know your take on this. M It's it's hard

525
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: to prepare questions to talk to you because it seems

526
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: like we don't know you because there's been so much

527
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: focus on the drama. That's frustrating for us as viewers

528
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: because we're like, they all seem to be on the

529
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: same plank. We like who is first of all, who

530
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: is Matt and who are these ladies? Do You'll find

531
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: it frustrating that we didn't get to really know or

532
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: we're not getting to know, you know, like the women

533
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: who are left on the show so far, and what

534
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: is it about you that you want us to know? Yeah,

535
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: I think that is. It is frustrating just because obviously,

536
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: like I know all of the women because you know,

537
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: we lived together, and so it's it's hard to watch

538
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: it back and be like, oh, like that moment didn't

539
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: make it and that was really cute, and like that

540
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: part of mountain Ey's relationship didn't make it, and that

541
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: was like a really big moment for me. So yeah,

542
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: that's probably the hardest part about watching it back at

543
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: just being like I always said, like I felt like

544
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: a bystander in my own love story, but now it's

545
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: like now even the parts of my love story that

546
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: I was so excited about people aren't seeing. So I

547
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: guess I don't really know exactly like I wouldn't say

548
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: that there's one thing that I was like, I wish

549
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: that people would have seen this. It's just kind of

550
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: like the combination of different conversations I had with Matt

551
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: that kind of led up to the one on one

552
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: that kind of like makes it all makes sense. I

553
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: feel like we had a lot of really good conversations

554
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: about where we stand emotionally and kind of how we

555
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: express our emotions. But then also just like fun, goofy

556
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: conversations that add to someone's playful side that you know

557
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: aren't always shown. Might give us an example, because more

558
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: than ever, like normally we see somebody say I'm falling

559
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: in love, right, but more than ever, it's like where how? Well?

560
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: You like, who would where? Why how? Because we're it's

561
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: just like you woke, like you get a date and

562
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm falling in love and surely there's something

563
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: that you guys had in conversation, So like, give us

564
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: an example of like something we missed out on, something

565
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: you were excited for us to see that wasn't shown. Yeah,

566
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing was so obviously I'm in

567
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: grad school and education has always been like a big

568
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: part I love school, so obviously that's why I chose

569
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: to go to grad school. And Matt and I have

570
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: this really good conversation about what it means to support

571
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: your partner, and I was kind of expressing to him

572
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: that like, relationships, for me, how I view them, it's

573
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: not you know, one person is just cheering on the

574
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: other person, it's a mutual cheering on of each other.

575
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I stand a relationships. So

576
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: I would you know, my ideal partner or somebody who

577
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: would support me and like be like, yeah, get your degree,

578
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: get your dream job, and you know, for whatever goals

579
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: they have, I would also support them. And we had

580
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: this great conversation at just about like where we stand

581
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: in how we view relationships as partnerships and that kind

582
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: of dynamic. And I think that that for me wasn't

583
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: really solidifying point because that's that's something that I see

584
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: in my family. That's how my parents are, that's how

585
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: my grandparents are. And to have that confirmed to me

586
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: that that's like exactly how he feels too, that kind

587
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: of like was like, wow, you know, this is a

588
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: big moment. I thought we can see eye to eye

589
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: on like the fundamental foundation of how to build a relationship.

590
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: I want to piggyback off of all of this because

591
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: this is something that I've just thought about. Obviously, Rachel

592
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: and I we watched as a viewer. Now we know

593
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: kind of what goes into filming and going through an

594
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: entire season, and I remember being in your shoes and

595
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: getting so excited for Monday nights because we didn't know

596
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: what was going to air. We were so excited, like

597
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: what parts was my relationship with the Bachelor at the

598
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: time going to be shown? And like, you know, and

599
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: so I guess playing up the fact that people really

600
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: aren't seeing those more intimate, in depth conversations between you

601
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: and Matt, like for you and I'm assuming you probably

602
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: still talk to some of the girls too. Have you

603
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: had this conversation with them? We're like, do you guys

604
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: feel sort of jipped in a way where like you

605
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be one thing watching it

606
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: and then it's you know, the drama has just really

607
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: overtaken everything, Like, how is that for you now viewing

608
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: it back? Yeah, I mean I think because you're you're

609
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: only one person and there's you know, we started off

610
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: with to have thirty two women now thirty seven women.

611
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: I think that I was like so hyper focused on

612
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: like my relationship with Matt and then like making a

613
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: few friends, but that was like a happy side effective

614
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: the whole process that I didn't really realize that all

615
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: of these other conversations were happening and all of this

616
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: other drama, like you know, the brainy and a thing,

617
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: because it was a group get that I wasn't on.

618
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: I didn't I wasn't poor reach that conversation or you know,

619
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: just certain things like that. So I think it's frustrating,

620
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: but it's also just kind of like I had no idea,

621
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Like I kind of feel stupid because I'm like, I

622
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: didn't know this was going on. I didn't realize to

623
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: what extent everything happened, because you know, you are are

624
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: only one person and it is only a two hour show,

625
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: and there's so much that goes into everything in so

626
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: many different conversations. Do you feel like it's a little

627
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: bit of a letdown in a way. Yeah, I mean,

628
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: I feel like there's amazing women on this season, and

629
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I would have loved for everyone to get to know

630
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: them the way that I know them, because you know,

631
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: only focusing on the dramas. It's kind of disappointing, you know,

632
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I want I want everyone to have their equal shot

633
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: to share what an amazing person each of these women are,

634
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: and everyone is just so focused and only sees a

635
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: lot of the negative stuff that happened. Right. So, one

636
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: of the things that was like a surprise that we

637
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: were kind of like, oh, okay, there's something between these

638
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: two was when Matt popped up on the farm day

639
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: and you're in your im and y'all start making out.

640
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: Not a pick, not a kiss. Hey might have even

641
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: had his eyes closed for this, I'm unsure, but you

642
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: guys were going at it and it was like, Wow,

643
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: he really has his connection with Piper. And then we

644
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: see you get your one on one. You finally get it.

645
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: We know you've been waiting for it, and I know

646
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's hard as time goes on, but again,

647
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: this is the sweet spot. Mid season is the sweet

648
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: spot to get the one on one. Talk to us

649
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: about what it felt like to have that date. Carnival

650
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: dates are always fun. Plus you had, you know, like

651
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: the romantic part with the group as well. Yes, yeah

652
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: to the farm date. Point that was I didn't realize

653
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: that he was running from NJ. I didn't know that

654
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: that was even a thing. I just kind of saw

655
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: him running over and I was like, oh, like obviously

656
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: joking around, like come join my interview, and then it

657
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: was kind of just a hoty surprise, and it kind

658
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: of was just nice to have that moment away from

659
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: everybody because I mean, as you guys know, group dates

660
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: are so hard to find your moment and you know,

661
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: be seen but without being like overtly annoying or you know,

662
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So that was really cute to

663
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: just kind of get that validation of like I see you, Like,

664
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: let's take this moment and really capitalize on it. So

665
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: that was really special. And then yeah, the carnival date

666
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: was so I mean, like the whole time in the

667
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: car when he was like what do you think we're doing?

668
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: What do you think we're doing? I was like, I don't,

669
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna get pessing, and so

670
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: it was like above and beyond like what I could

671
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: have dreamed of. It was amazing. He asked you what

672
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: you would do in the woods at night. I was like,

673
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: I thought that was I was like, what the fuck

674
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: do you think she's gonna do you think he got

675
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: nervous though, because sometimes I say stupid shit like that

676
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: when I get a little bit nervous if I'm into someone,

677
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: and then I'm like what just popped out of my mouth?

678
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's just shock it up to he

679
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: was really into you and you made him a little

680
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: bit nervous. Yeah, that's perfect. But speaking of dates, what

681
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: if he were to ask you instead of a carnival date,

682
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: if it would have been a picnic, how would you

683
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: have felt your by I had a bone to pick

684
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: with you and your bio when it came out, because

685
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: it read that he didn't like picnic, So like, who

686
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: does it like a good picnic? Um? I mean, if

687
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: it was a picnic in the middle of the forest

688
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: at night, I'm sure it would have been romantic. I

689
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: don't know what it is about picnics. I don't know why.

690
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: That's like something like a weird quirk that I have.

691
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: But like something else, sitting on the ground is just

692
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: like uncomfortable. The posture, the I don't know, I don't know.

693
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, just throw a table in there, even just

694
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: a chair, all you off my lap, But like something

695
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: about the posture and trying to look cute on a picnic.

696
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: Not I guess you were non jealous of Serena Pee

697
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: to get one of the first dates, the one on

698
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: one sudden it was the picnic. Yeah, I love animals,

699
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: but to have to sit on the ground and deal

700
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: with the animals, I don't know if that would have

701
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: been my my cup of tea. But anytime with Matt

702
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: is good, so I would have been sucked it up.

703
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: And mules at that, not just eighty mules with goats, mules,

704
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: I make that baby donkeys, I think right, mules mules.

705
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: Somebody was in their faces, they were making out. So, yeah,

706
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: you locked out on the carnival one. Yeah for sure. Um,

707
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: talk to us about your the nighttime portion, because I

708
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: think we were a little obviously we know, like we

709
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: can't get the little day. But you have this intimate

710
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: moment with Matt and you're talking about your family. You're

711
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: explaining why it's so difficult for you to open up

712
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: and express your feelings, even though you say you're falling

713
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: in love with him. You know also something makes you

714
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: open up. Talk a little bit about that, because I

715
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: think we were a little unclear as to what it

716
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: was that you know has kind of held you back

717
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: from opening up. Yeah, that was kind of capitalizing on

718
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: a previous conversation that would we had had my love language.

719
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a difference between like the love

720
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: language you want and the love language you give. And

721
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: for me, the love language I've been taught for my

722
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: family is love through actions, and so like, you know,

723
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: the bachelor world isn't really conducive to that because I'm

724
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: the kind of person that wants to do something for

725
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: you or like let's go do this together, or like

726
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: quality time and that kind of thing. It's for me,

727
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: it's so hard for me to open up and just

728
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: tell somebody how I feel. And I think that comes

729
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: from just like a fear of rejection or a fear

730
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: of judgment. So that's why that's kind of what that

731
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: conversation was about. Was you know, I am so used

732
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: to in my life, you know, being like let me

733
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: get you a gift, let's do this, let's have this

734
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: experience together, and that's kind of how I show and

735
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: typically received love. But having to verbalize that because nobody

736
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: can read your mind and not something that I kind

737
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: of had to remind myself, like no, one's going to

738
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: read your mind, No one's going to count that for you,

739
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: how you feel. I think that's what made me overly emotional,

740
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: was having to be like, point blank, this is how

741
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: I feel, and now you have now I'm just open

742
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: to that rejections. That's what it was. I want to know.

743
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: This is a two part question, and they're both kind

744
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: of random. First, like, after you had that conversation with Matt,

745
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and granted it, it was filmed months ago,

746
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: so you know that took place a while I go

747
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: for you, But now watching it back, was there any

748
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: part of you that was nervous to have your family

749
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: watched it and hear what you had to say? Or

750
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: was that something that you had had either a conversation

751
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: with a while ago or right before it aired? What

752
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: was that dynamic like? And then my second part to

753
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: the question is since coming off of the show, because

754
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: we all know, and originally I talked about this on

755
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: the podcast all the time, the show opens you up

756
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: in such a weird, unique way, like kind of just

757
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: cuts you open and like everything spills out that you

758
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: have to share with a partner. Yeah, because you know

759
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: things are sped up, So since then and going through

760
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: that experience and having to go through opening up and

761
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: the emotion and the feeling behind why you're feeling certain things.

762
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Do you think your love language has changed or a

763
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: couple of them have maybe changed or swip swapped areas. Yeah. Yeah,

764
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: the first part, like my family, I definitely gave them

765
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: a warning of like that this is what's to come.

766
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that, you know, since going

767
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: through this experience, it's kind of made me more cognizant

768
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: of you know, men ching it like saying giving words

769
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: of affirmation to my family, because I know that's something

770
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: that we don't typically do, but I'm like, you know,

771
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: this has kind of taught me how to do that,

772
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: and so I think that there's definitely a growing experience there.

773
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I think that I think that my

774
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: love language, I've just become more perceptive to what they are.

775
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: And I think above all else, this experience has taught

776
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: me how important quality time is, because I think that

777
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that quality time can even be considered

778
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: a love language. I think it's just like the foundation

779
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: to build all of the rest of them onto because

780
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: you can't tell someone how you feel if you're not

781
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: with them. You can't give them gifts, you can't show

782
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: them affection if you don't have that time together. So

783
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: I think it's just made me perceptive of like, above

784
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: all else, I need quality time and now I have

785
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: the tools, and I feel like I'm better equipped to

786
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: share how I feel and to give those words of

787
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: affirmation or you know, be able to express tom feeling

788
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: and understand that that's not a weakness such just a

789
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: part of growing with a partner. What's your master's in marketing? Oh? Okay,

790
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I thought you would have said like counseling or something.

791
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, I was like, well, okay,

792
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: well maybe like you know, you understand people. I feel

793
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: like that's like a good a tool for a key,

794
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: like for a marketer, like a successful Yeah. Yeah, just

795
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: from that that statement alone, I feel like you're so perceptive. Yeah. Well,

796
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: my undergrowth in political science and sociology. So the sociology

797
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: part of it, the understanding people. Okay, you're polycys. You

798
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: didn't go to law school. That was a thought. There

799
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: was a good amount of time where I thought I

800
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: was going to go to law school. How much school

801
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: do you have left? So I'll be done at the

802
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: end of summer. So like August, Okay, got to go

803
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: the New York Bio it read, uh, what did you say?

804
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: Getting my MS? So I don't have to deal with

805
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: the BS. Did you come up with that or did

806
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: somebody else I did. She's a marketer, she's a market

807
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: she's a marketing. That's how I market myself. It comes

808
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: it well, speaking of BS. Unfortunately, Piper, we have to

809
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: get into it because that has been so much of

810
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: what this season has been about. You lived it. You

811
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: were right there in the mix and when I say

812
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: in the mixes in you lived with them. You seem

813
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: to not be a part of the drama at all

814
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: except actually I'm gonna detour, except when all Heather Martin

815
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: came in. Oh yeah, she interrupted you. And my favorite

816
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: part might have been that you had no idea who

817
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: she was. I actually laughed out loud. I thought, Wow,

818
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: these girls haven't really maybe watched some of the most

819
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: more recent seasons, because a lot of times, like Bachelor World,

820
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: people expect you to know who they are, and you

821
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: were like, I don't know. Some girls just walked in.

822
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: I was dying laughing. Then in the previews we see

823
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: you get very emotional over the fact that you know

824
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: she's there. Can you talk to us a little bit

825
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: about like what that felt like to have this stranger

826
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: walk in matt reaction of laughing, and then you know,

827
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: to find out who she is and then just another girl,

828
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: new girl added to the mix. Yeah, yeah, I think

829
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: at that point, Well, the reason I was so emotional,

830
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: I think, and obviously I've had some time to think

831
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: about it, but you know, I think the reason I

832
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: was so emotional and I didn't know who she was

833
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: because I've only seen one season. Yeah, so I was

834
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: emotional because I had just it was coming off by

835
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: one on one and so I was, you know, having

836
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: the last conversation I had with Matt be like such

837
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: a serious conversation about feelings and everything. I mean, as

838
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: we all know, you don't just stop with the one

839
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: on one and be like that's it, We're good, let's

840
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: get engaged. It's like you have to continue that relationship.

841
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: You just are better equipped to do so. So at

842
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: that point, I was just trying to have that a fun,

843
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: more lighted, lighthearted conversation, but still you know, get into

844
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: our feelings and talk about what like what life would

845
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: be together in New York and that was kind of

846
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: the context about what was going on, and then to

847
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: have her interrupt and then it wasn't in a way

848
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: that like all of the other women in the house

849
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: we typically would ask like the other woman like hey,

850
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: can I steal him? And it was like, that's kind

851
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: of the repertoire we've come up with. And she asked

852
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: Matt specifically, and I was just kind of like I

853
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: didn't know who she was. She started laughing, and I

854
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: was like, why is this funny? Like I just felt

855
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: like really invisible that it wasn't, but it was like, yeah,

856
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: his reaction was, and I think that that's kind of

857
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: I cracked. I will fully admit that I cracked in

858
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: that moment. But that's why I was so wild. Let

859
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: me ask you this then in that moment, because I mean,

860
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: and this is something I think Rachel brought up at

861
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: the premiere, is like when Matt sauncomfortable and nervous, he

862
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: laughs like he did that I think during one limo entrance,

863
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: like he just broke down. And obviously we saw that

864
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: when Heather walked in the room. Was there a part

865
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: of you who thought, like, you know what, match just

866
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna make no like, Heather, take your time, you could wait.

867
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: Let me sit here with Piper right now. Like, how

868
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: did you feel when he was like, Okay, Piper, I'll

869
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: see you later, Because you know, like, as you said,

870
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: at that point, you already had a one on one,

871
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: You already had this relationship for him. So I feel

872
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: like if I was you, I'd be like, but I'm

873
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: the one you're really dating here. Why are you telling

874
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: me to take a hike and you're going to give

875
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: this all the time of day? Yeah. Yeah, that was

876
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: definitely a thought that went through my mind. It was like,

877
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's the that's like the part of

878
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: it that I was like, Oh my gosh, I feel

879
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: so invisible because it's like we were in the middle

880
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: of a conversation. It's not like we were like a

881
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: stopping point. So for him to laugh and then be

882
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: like give me a second, I was like, oh okay.

883
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: Like and I mean, like the embodiment of Heather, a beautiful,

884
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: white blonde woman, is a lot of the insecurities that

885
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I know that I have, So that was just a

886
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: projection talk about talk about that. Why do you have

887
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: that in those insecurities? Um? I mean at sums from

888
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: like a lot of different places. I mean, growing up

889
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: in Oregon definitely doesn't help. It's a very white state.

890
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: I think that that's, you know, known to most people.

891
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: So I think that a lot of the times dating

892
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: has been does he even like black women? Does he

893
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: like women with curly hair? I never do anything to

894
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: my hair. It's always curly, like it's beautiful. It is beautiful,

895
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: thank you so much. So I think that coming into

896
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: this season, that was an insecurity that I had had.

897
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: And then obviously I developed a relationship with Matt and

898
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: that wasn't a problem. And the other women in the

899
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: house that were white women, I knew them personally, so

900
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't that I didn't feel threatened by them. It's

901
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: just that I didn't see I didn't really place that

902
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: insecurity in them. But then seeing Heather as like this

903
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: new person, I don't know who she is. I was

904
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: feeling very insecure in that moment because she and bodies

905
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: basically the opposite of me and a woman, and I

906
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how to deal with this.

907
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't gotten to the point I

908
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: will fully admit to deal with those insecurities when they

909
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: happened in front of me. It usually happens in a

910
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: reflection period. So that was that was really hard to

911
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: deal with. Yeah, yeah, that's real. Is that a conversation

912
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: that you eventually were ever able to have with him?

913
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: I ask you, maybe, I don't know if that's going

914
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: to be giving too much away, but just so you

915
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: could express that to him, so he realized, like why

916
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: you did feel invisible? Yeah, I mean we kind of

917
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: touched on, like and then like there's an apology and everything.

918
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: So but I don't think I ever expressed to him

919
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: that specific insecurity, because, like I said, I think that

920
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: it was only in reflection that I was really able

921
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: to be like, why did I act like that? Like

922
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I was so level headed until that moment and then

923
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: I completely lost it. And I think that through the

924
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: combination of things that was probably in the top one

925
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: or two things that really was the reason I acted

926
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: the way I did. Yeah, you cared, there's nothing wrong

927
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: with you care. Yeah, let me tell you what it

928
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: seems like y'all didn't care about Okay Katie. Now, I

929
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: found this moment weird. When Katie's suitcase was rolled away,

930
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: nobody was emotional. Nobody cried at this point. How many

931
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: of gall were left at this point, I don't even know.

932
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: At this point, I remember I cried every single time

933
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: one of my girlfriends went home. There was a little

934
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: bit of chuckling. There was covering up of their face,

935
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: so many like I don't want people to see I'm smiling.

936
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Does is Katie? Was she not liked in the house?

937
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw the way that Serena Ce came

938
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: at her, which was illogical. No, it is. I know

939
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: why she did, but it just was awesome. But then

940
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: I thought nobody really took up for her in that

941
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: moment um. She kind of was by herself. Can you

942
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: give us some insight on that? Yeah, I mean, I

943
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: obviously don't know Katie's relationship with everybody in the house.

944
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: Obviously her in Serena Cy did not get along. Um,

945
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't really. I think that we were all a

946
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: little bit shocked that she went, and I think that

947
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: was part of the face covering. But I don't know.

948
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: I think that because Katie had taken it upon herself

949
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: to bring the drama to Matt, that she took on

950
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: that role and I think that in due so that

951
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: kind of created a lot of division. So maybe the

952
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: reason that a lot of women that didn't feel as

953
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: hurt or sad that she was leaving me was because

954
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: at this point we didn't really have drama in the house,

955
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: and so it was like we all kind of had

956
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: this underlying fear. At least I had an underlying fear

957
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: of like if she didn't create drama and bring it

958
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: to him, I just don't know. Oh but Piper, she

959
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: wasn't creating drama. She told no lies, like the ship

960
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: was actually happening and yeah, yeah, So I mean, were

961
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: you close with Katie. I'm confused because it seems like, yeah,

962
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: people were upset for her for telling what was happening

963
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: in the house, but it was actually really happening and

964
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: it was pretty toxic. Yeah, And I can't speak to

965
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: why everyone did or didn't like her, whatever the reason

966
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: why was Katie and I were I have no problems

967
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: with Katie. The day that everyone else was on the

968
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: group date, Katie and I went on a walk together.

969
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: We were able to just talk about like real life,

970
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: like yeah, nothing really just the show, just kind of

971
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: bond on like a more human normal like you would

972
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: have a friend in real life. So I have no

973
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: qualms with Katie. I was shocked that she laughed. I didn't.

974
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: I didn't really see that coming. Um, so I know,

975
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: I can't. I think that the reason that a lot

976
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: of people were annoyed with her was because she kept

977
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: bringing the drama. But I I personally didn't have didn't

978
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: have anything. You weren't in the trauma. You weren't in

979
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: the trauma. Yeah, which kudos because it seemed like a

980
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: lot of people got wrapped up in this season. I

981
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: just who, Like, I feel like if I was one

982
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: of you girls, I've just been like on edge with everyone,

983
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: like who's gonna fight this week, Who's gonna go at

984
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: it this time? It was just it was a lot

985
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: And obviously this week we saw at the end of

986
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: the just Senia and MJ two on one. You know,

987
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: as we know, I'm J went home. Whose side in

988
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: that whole rift were you on? Because it seemed like

989
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: the most random, bizarre two on one to me? Yeah,

990
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: I mean it felt really random. It when we got

991
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: the card that there was going to be a two

992
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: one when it was kind of it was shocking because

993
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: the conversation where MJ where Matt Brook the Varsity versus

994
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: j B to MJ, and then it was apparently just

995
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: any of it. Said that to Matt. That was kind

996
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: of a conversation that I heard part of it but

997
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't really realize. I didn't really understand what was happening.

998
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: And then for it to you know, actually be a

999
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: big thing and something that you know, Matt felt like

1000
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: he needed to address that was really shocking. I don't

1001
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: know if I have a side. I definitely don't agree

1002
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: with MJ making a division in the house. When we

1003
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: were all, you know, we kind of were like, this

1004
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: is what it is. There's no reason to be mad

1005
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: at the new girls. It's not their fault. And I

1006
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: think that, you know, just any it. Matt asked you

1007
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: a question, and she told him of how she felt,

1008
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: or she told them what happened. Like, I don't think

1009
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: it's really a side. It's just kind of like, do

1010
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: you want to be the girl that is dividing or

1011
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: do you want to be the one that's bringing people together.

1012
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know. It's not really it's

1013
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: kind of just dull kind of it was like a

1014
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: dull kind of moment. What does she say, week bitch energy?

1015
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: What was it? Something what week week bitch week bitch

1016
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: versus strong bitch energy no weak bitch energy. Yeah yeah,

1017
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that stuff trying to make

1018
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: this happen? It was like sech right like stuff trying

1019
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: to make setch happen. That's how I felt. Um, okay,

1020
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: real quick, women, tell all we know you just returned

1021
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: from filming it. If you had to describe it in

1022
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: three words, what I'm and I'm expecting big things from

1023
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: you marketing, Piper, what would those three words being? No pressure? Um? Okay,

1024
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hyphenate the first one. Who was which is

1025
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna be surprisingly cordial? Um? Two more um, apologetic and insightful? Okay,

1026
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: who are you so close with? Of all the girls? Um?

1027
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: I would say I'm probably closest with Chelsea and Bree

1028
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: and Lauren because she was my roommate. UM and Abigail

1029
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: because Oregon girls. Um, that's right. I would probably say

1030
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: those are the people that I am the closest with. Yeah, okay, kid, yeah,

1031
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know, I don't know

1032
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: how free K does good crew? Okay, Piper. Before we

1033
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: let you go, we ask every guest on our podcast

1034
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: the same question. So up, until this point of this season,

1035
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: what would you say Your rose and your thorn was

1036
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: um my, Okay, I'll start with my thorn because I

1037
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: think it's a little more fresh in my head. My

1038
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: thorn was um, react react to facial expressions without actually

1039
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: thinking all the way through. I think that that was

1040
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: something that I struggled with and just kind of like

1041
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: the of like taking a thought. I was quick to react,

1042
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: especially in the face and my rose. Um. I think

1043
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: I tried to listen to everyone's side. I think that

1044
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: was something that was helpful to me in the long run.

1045
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: Was I was kind of able to understand after I

1046
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: had an initial reaction to things, taking a step back

1047
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: and being like, you know what, let's let's listen to this,

1048
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: and Yeah, I think that was definitely helpful. I love

1049
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: that that's a good answer. Most people would say, only

1050
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: you know something physical that we saw go down with Matt.

1051
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: So I love that answer that it seems like you're so,

1052
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: what's the word not per I don't know what I'm

1053
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: trying to say, but that you made it like a growth,

1054
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: like a learning educational experience for you. Yeah, which is

1055
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing than very mature how old. Yeah, twenty three. Yeah,

1056
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: way to get, way to expel, like those those myths

1057
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: people have about the youngest people in the house, Like yeah, yeah,

1058
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: very much. Well, I wish we would have seen more

1059
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: of you, Piper. It's a disappointment, but we're so happy

1060
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: that we were able to talk with you today and

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Speaker 1: then our bachelor. Happy our listeners get to know more

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Speaker 1: of you. You're very interesting. Thank yeah, thank you so much.

1063
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Speaker 1: It was good to finally see you, you know, through

1064
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Speaker 1: through the screen. But um, I think our listeners each

1065
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: week they love being able to get to know you

1066
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: for you, from you, not from another TV show. So

1067
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Speaker 1: this is wonderful. So thank you for joining. Yes, thank

1068
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: you for having me. This is fun. Absolutely take care,

1069
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Speaker 1: take care, James, keep that last name. Girl will two

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Speaker 1: first names. Oh they say you can't trust us, but

1071
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Speaker 1: yes you can. Yes, all right, to see you guy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Oh I liked her. I liked her too,

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Speaker 1: Like this is what makes finally having these women on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, because we get this deeper sense of maturity

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Speaker 1: of growth, Like same thing with Kim last week, Like

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Speaker 1: it was so good to just hear from them about why,

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Speaker 1: like who they are as a person, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not just the drama and the cattiness. So always good

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Speaker 1: to have them come. And I loved her last answer

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Speaker 1: with her rose. I thought that was beautiful. It was

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to anger the viewers because

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Speaker 1: you're going to feel like something was taken away from you,

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Speaker 1: and that is these women and their personalities and their stories.

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Speaker 1: And I get that we have to have the drama

1085
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Speaker 1: and we do want to see that as well. I'm

1086
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, but there's got to be a better

1087
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Speaker 1: balance of it. And I think that if we can

1088
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Speaker 1: find that balance, then we can kind of go back

1089
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Speaker 1: to the basics of the show and feel like you're

1090
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Speaker 1: getting that love story mixed in with the drama. And

1091
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Speaker 1: right now it's just it's too top heavy with the drama. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, thank you Piper for coming on here and

1093
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: showing us that, like, there's a reason you were on

1094
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: this show, there's a reason you got the one on one,

1095
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: there's a reason you're still with us on this journey

1096
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: and you've made it as far as you did, and

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Speaker 1: then also giving us some insight as to how great

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Speaker 1: some of these women are too. Yeah, yeah, thank you Piper,

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Speaker 1: And as always, happy our listeners, Thank you guys for

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us again this week. As always, we're

1101
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: excited to see what happens with Heather next week because

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's going to be very juicy

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Speaker 1: and I truly don't know how it's gonna go. Will

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00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: she stay, will she go? But we will find out,

1105
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Speaker 1: so please, you know, follow along, let us know what

1106
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: kind of questions you want to have asked next week.

1107
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll be Heather herself or somebody else,

1108
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: but keep writing to us, letting us know your thoughts, opinions, comments, concerns,

1109
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Speaker 1: all of the good things. And you, hopefully by now

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Speaker 1: know where to find us. But if you don't, it's

1111
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and at Badge Happy

1112
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Speaker 1: Hour on both Facebook and Twitter. Let me tell you something, Becca,

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Speaker 1: whether Heather stays or goes, she will not be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys that right now, I don't want

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Speaker 1: us see it. I don't want to. Okay, well be here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm somebody else's podcast and Bachelor Happy Hour listeners,

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Speaker 1: we have some exciting news for you. We have a

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Speaker 1: bonus episode of Bachelor Happy Hour available on Wondering Plus

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Speaker 1: this Thursday, just for you. Download the Wondering App to

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Speaker 1: check it out, and the link to download is in

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Speaker 1: the episode notes of today's podcast. And as always, guys,

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Speaker 1: if you never want to miss an episode, please subscribe

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Speaker 1: to our podcast. You know how to do it. You

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Speaker 1: can do it on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondering App,

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