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Speaker 2: talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. Now, we have another

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Speaker 2: corruption case involving the former La Deputy Mayor, Raymond Chan.

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Speaker 2: He probably never heard of him, but he was one

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Speaker 2: of Eric Garcetti's top lieutenants and boy did he get

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Speaker 2: whacked today he is going to prison. It is the

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Speaker 2: same real estate development scandal that ensnared La City Council

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Speaker 2: member Jose Wezar, who was recently sent to thirteen years

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Speaker 2: in prison. So let's talk to Michael Munks from KFI

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Speaker 2: on what's going to happen to Raymond Chan.

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Speaker 3: Now, Heika, hey John, thanks for having me on. Raymond

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Speaker 3: Chan This is the second trial for Raymond Chan. You

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Speaker 3: may remember last year he was first on trial on

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Speaker 3: these charges, but a mistrial was declared after a defense

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Speaker 3: attorney fell ill. So a bit of a delay here

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Speaker 3: for the justice that prosecutors say was served today. He's

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Speaker 3: sixty seven years old. As you noted, he was a

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Speaker 3: top deputy in the city building here in LA for

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Speaker 3: former Mayor Eric Garcetti. And yes, he is entangled with

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Speaker 3: that same so called casino loyal federal investigation that landed

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Speaker 3: former city Councilman Jose Weezar a thirteen year prison sentence

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Speaker 3: that will start for him in April. This closing argument

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Speaker 3: finished yesterday morning. The jury did not start deliberating until

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Speaker 3: this morning at eight, but John by ten o'clock today

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Speaker 3: they had the guilty verdict. End did not take much

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Speaker 3: time at all to find ray Chan guilty.

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Speaker 1: On twelve counts. Twelve counts.

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Speaker 3: These are federal charges rico charges, racketeering, honest services, wire fraud, bribery,

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Speaker 3: making false statements to a federal government agency. What they

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Speaker 3: say he did and what they have now proven that

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Speaker 3: he did, was facilitating influence from developers project developers here

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Speaker 3: in downtown LA and to get the support of counselmen.

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Speaker 3: Wezar wez Are benefited from this financially as well, but

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Speaker 3: they say that Chan also benefited the tune of tens

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Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars. His defense team said, no, he

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Speaker 3: didn't benefit from this personally. He was a loyal government

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Speaker 3: servant and just got caught up in this unfairly, and

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Speaker 3: that the people of Los Angeles should be thankful for

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Speaker 3: Ray Chan's work on their behalf for all the years

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Speaker 3: that he spent.

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Speaker 2: Is Chan actually going to pay the legal bills for

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Speaker 2: this defense, because when you get smoked on twelve counts

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Speaker 2: in two hours, why did you even bother with a trial?

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Speaker 3: I know it's an expensive case for Jose Weezar, who

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Speaker 3: is supposed to report the prison at the end of April.

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Speaker 3: He has to pay back more than four hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty thousand dollars to the city and also nearly forty

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Speaker 3: see exactly what the price tag might be in fines

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Speaker 3: for former Deputy Mayor Ray Chan. But if it's anything

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Speaker 3: like that, then the defense attorneys might have to take

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Speaker 3: a back seat to those types of payments.

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Speaker 2: So Chan was like a middleman between the real estate

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Speaker 2: developers and Weezar, because Weezar had most of the power

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Speaker 2: deciding what was going to be built in LA, especially

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Speaker 3: Exactly, was the deputy mayor for economic development in particular,

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Speaker 3: and he realized apparently his role as a middleman, because

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Speaker 3: part of the charges within this conspiracy indicate that Chan

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Speaker 3: facilitated a one hundred thousand dollars campaign contribution one of

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Speaker 3: these developers to Wezar's wife, because Wezar's office had a

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Speaker 3: succession plan that when Wezar was finished representing Council District fourteen,

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Speaker 3: maintain power with this conspiracy. Everybody else who has been

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Speaker 3: as well. They did it very very quickly.

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Speaker 2: These charges covered a five year period from twenty thirteen

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Speaker 2: everybody else who got convicted or pled guilty, We's are

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Speaker 3: Well to that point, his defense team did say today

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Speaker 3: Whatever his position is, obviously he is maintaining his innocence,

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Speaker 3: FBI said today that the quote the Casino loyal investigation

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Speaker 3: has shined a light on the city of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: and the FBI will continue to weed out corruption to

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Speaker 3: ensure local government operates honestly to improve the lives of Angelinos.

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Speaker 2: All right, Michael Monks, caf I do is thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for coming on my pleasure. John, We's are

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Speaker 2: in case you forgot, and he is going to prison

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Speaker 2: for thirteen years. He took he took all kinds of bribes,

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Speaker 2: luxury hotel stays in Las Vegas, casino chips, concert tickets

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Speaker 2: array of other benefits. Uh, the array of other benefits

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Speaker 2: that was the hooker buffet that Weezar would line up for.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of sex involved in this, and

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Speaker 2: he he basically worked for Weezar even though he was

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Speaker 2: the deputy mayor and he also was the Uh. This

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Speaker 2: the name of the attorney here? This this losing attorney

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Speaker 2: John Hanush, good job Hanush? Oh my god. He claims

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Speaker 2: there was no quid pro quo in this case with

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Speaker 2: ray Chan. With Weezar, there absolutely was. So they kept

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Speaker 2: trying to say, no, no, Wesar.

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Speaker 1: Is the cruk.

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Speaker 2: Weasar is the cruk. But the facilitator, the middle man,

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Speaker 2: was Raymond Chen. And you tell me, Garcetti didn't know

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Speaker 2: any of this was going on. It was Garcetti the

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Speaker 2: yet is is original lawyer Harlan Braun was hospitalized and

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Speaker 2: and so the first trial was declared a mistrial.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know when.

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Speaker 2: You've had how many many, how many guys already went

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Speaker 2: to prison here and I think a dozen others. Yet

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Speaker 2: over the same investigation, you can't really say, oh, it

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Speaker 2: was everyone else. I was the innocent one. Chen also

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Speaker 2: helped Weezar with a sex harassment case as well.

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Speaker 1: It's just.

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Speaker 2: There, there, there are, there have been, and there are

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Speaker 2: so many corrupt, greedy dirt bags that work in city hall.

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Speaker 2: This this, this city is one of the most corrupt

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Speaker 2: And it's it's still air. It's it's endemic, and we

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Speaker 2: keep electing the same dirty corrupt boobs. Every two years,

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Speaker 2: more dirty corrupt boobs get elected and re elected.

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Speaker 1: More coming up.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 1: Things are so nuts? How nuts are they? Things are

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Speaker 1: so nuts?

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are a lot of people because the

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Speaker 2: price of everything has exploded. I'm sure there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of people who have their budgets have been screwed

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Speaker 2: up because of the cost the cost of food, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, food inflation is probably twenty five thirty percent cumulatively,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter if it's slowing down. It's still

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Speaker 2: the extra inflation. Even if it's only three or three

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Speaker 2: twenty five or thirty percent, and some categories it's even higher.

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Speaker 2: And of course their statistics lie all out anyway, but

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Speaker 2: it's significant. But if you're an illegal alien in New

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Speaker 2: York City, they are now handing out debit cards and

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Speaker 2: you could make up to eighteen thousand, two hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: a year in New York City. If you're an illegal alien,

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Speaker 2: they will give you prepaid debit cards, so you could

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Speaker 2: buy eighteen thousand dollars worth of food. You can only

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Speaker 2: use them at supermarkets and bogegas. Those are those deadly

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Speaker 2: convenience store type of outlets that are common in New York.

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Speaker 2: And if you're a family of four with two children,

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Speaker 2: you get up to three hundred and fifty dollars a week.

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Speaker 2: And they started distributing the cards at the Roosevelt Hotel

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Speaker 2: that's been a shelter for illegals, and the first ten

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Speaker 2: new arrivals at the hotel shelter. Yes, they won three

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars debit cards, and I guess you

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Speaker 2: could come back and get them refilled every week. One

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen families will get them this week alone.

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Speaker 2: The idiot mayor Eric Adams, you know, mister sanctuary City,

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Speaker 2: he's spending fifty three million dollars of New Yorker's tax money. Boy,

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Speaker 2: I tell you, if they re elect him and any

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Speaker 2: of the city council going along with this, then you

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Speaker 2: know what you deserve, all the financial misery that you're

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Speaker 2: suffering from if you don't get rid of this guy

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Speaker 2: who's handing out fifty three million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this one.

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Speaker 2: If you go to the Roosevelt Hotel to get the money,

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Speaker 2: you have to sign an affidavit swearing that you're only

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Speaker 2: going to use the cards for food or baby supply.

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Speaker 2: In other words, you have to promise you're going to

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Speaker 2: follow the law. These are people who broke into the

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Speaker 2: you're going to follow the law and only use it

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Speaker 2: for food.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there's no shortage of poor people in

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Speaker 2: New York. There's no shortage of American citizens who are

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Speaker 2: struggling to pay their food bills. There's no shortage of

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Speaker 2: parents who have trouble feeding their kids. But suddenly these

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Speaker 2: the tax money that everyone else is contributing. That is

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Speaker 2: Greg Abbott, the Texas governor, called it insanity and it's offensive.

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Speaker 2: Now they have one hundred and eighty thousand illegal aliens

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Speaker 2: in New York City. Now one hundred and eighty thousand,

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Speaker 2: there's sixty five thousand still in shelters, and Erica Adams

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Speaker 2: claims this is going to save the city money. Instead

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Speaker 2: of the city spending the money on food, they're giving

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Speaker 2: the money directly to to the to the migrants so

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Speaker 2: they could buy food at the supermarkets. It's the same expenditure,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, instead of buying boxed food and

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Speaker 2: feeding it to the migrants, they're going down the road

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Speaker 2: to a supermarket.

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Speaker 3: What.

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Speaker 2: I don't see how this saves money. But you know

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Speaker 2: he probably made that up.

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Speaker 1: He just lied. Of course, he'd say that.

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Speaker 2: The contract for the debit cards was given to mobility

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Speaker 2: capital finance on an emergency basis. And get this, there

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Speaker 2: were no competitive bids from other companies.

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Speaker 1: Humhm, wow.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's some kind of reward there, some

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Speaker 2: special personal connection.

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Speaker 1: He He recently gave.

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Speaker 2: A four hundred and thirty four million dollar contract with

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Speaker 2: some medical services company called doc Go, and he spent.

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Speaker 1: He's spending.

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Speaker 2: He's also spending a half million dollars on this contract

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Speaker 2: so far. He gave one hundred and twenty five thousand

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Speaker 2: another one, universal basic income. Don't worry about working, We'll

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Speaker 2: You're a special You don't need to work. Will give

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Speaker 2: listen to this. There's a deputy mayor in New York

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Speaker 2: They've got no work, they have no job, and now

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Speaker 1: I do struggle with why people are being so negative.

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Speaker 2: Six forty, the Moistline eight seven seven Moist eighty six,

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Speaker 2: feature on that super powerful app. You know, I do

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Speaker 2: listen to your news occasionally?

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Speaker 5: You do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I know you and two stories of yours got my attention.

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Speaker 2: One is that they're going to take one of the

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Speaker 2: This is This goes right past the studio, doesn't it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's it's a two mile stretch through Burbank. One lane

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Speaker 2: And they were having a meeting on at the Burbank

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Speaker 2: going to be all the people who set other passengers

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Speaker 5: Oh, you can do your show there just right.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm going I'm going to lay down

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Speaker 2: I'm going to broadcast that live really yeah, until the

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Speaker 2: bus hits me. You'd like the climate change protesters in Europe.

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Speaker 2: Just don't get dragged off the street.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 5: Oh he's gonna get hit.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna I'm gonna lane track. Maybe maybe I'll

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Speaker 5: Okay, and then you'll starve. You'll do a starvation start. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Look, you know I haven't done a protest a protest

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Speaker 2: in a long time. A well, a dedicated bus lane.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't drive your car. Why can't the buses drive

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Speaker 2: with all the other cars. Well, there's not that many

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Speaker 1: Who's going to North Hollywood?

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Speaker 2: I'm just and And there's something called the Burdbank Transportation

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Speaker 2: Commission has somebody named Eddie Polan. He says, this is

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Speaker 2: It's not unethical for people to drive on a street.

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Speaker 2: Why else would you have a street? Ethical street situation?

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Speaker 1: No, no, the street is for the car. What do

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Speaker 1: you mean? Seniors drive cars, disabled people drive cars. We

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Speaker 2: How many disabled license plates do you see in the

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Speaker 1: And half of those people are faking it? God? What

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Speaker 2: We drove in there and there were like forty empty

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, normal people don't have time to go to.

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Speaker 2: A stupid meeting to defend their right to drive on

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Speaker 1: To fight for a bus lane. I mean, have you

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Speaker 2: Oh god, the buses are filled with psychos and drug addicts,

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Speaker 2: The Metro crowd, the people who ride Metro, the people

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Speaker 1: I intentionally look inside. Have you ever looked inside?

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Speaker 3: Half?

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Speaker 5: Oh that's frightening, that's very insensitive of.

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Speaker 2: There's I can't believe I should I should have gone

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Speaker 2: neighborhood to try quicker ways to go. Yeah, that's what's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen is all the side roads in Burbank are

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Speaker 2: remember how long it would take did you ever try

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Speaker 2: That's been gone ever since the pandemic because nobody around

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Speaker 5: Its exactly, that's right, that's the one benefit.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Now this this it's there in the

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Speaker 2: preliminary design stage. Project isn't going to be finished till

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. I'm driving on the dedicated bus, like,

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Speaker 2: why can't people stop this stuff? When does this end?

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Speaker 2: They're taking away lanes all over the region, all over

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Speaker 2: that nobody uses, lanes for buses that nobody uses. Empty buses.

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Speaker 2: I see going up and down wils all day, empty buses.

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Speaker 1: Whoop, whoop, whoop whoop. They're carrying air.

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Speaker 2: That they're and they're carrying bad air too. There were smelled.

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Speaker 2: What's on that bus?

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Speaker 5: You need to go you need to.

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Speaker 1: You need to go to I'm ready to revolt. What

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Speaker 1: was the other thing? Oh story? How much time to add?

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Speaker 2: A minute?

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Speaker 1: Hold on?

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Speaker 2: I even called this one up because I couldn't believe

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Speaker 1: Not that I don't believe Corbin, I just so.

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Speaker 2: They claim the climate change is speeding the Earth up

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Speaker 2: in a few years because the planet is rotating faster.

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Speaker 2: They claim that the ice is melting at the North

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Speaker 1: And that's causing like water.

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Speaker 5: To build up, and it's speeding up the Earth's rotation.

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Speaker 2: And speeding up the Earth's rotation. The lead author is

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Speaker 5: He's a geophysicist.

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Speaker 2: This is an unprecedented situation and a big deal. It's

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Speaker 2: So is it a big deal or isn't it a

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Speaker 2: big deal? Well, it's something notable, he decides a negative

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Speaker 2: to have to pause for a second like that long

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Speaker 5: Okay, I worry about that. In twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Nine, why is everybody insane?

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Speaker 1: We've got a guy.

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Speaker 2: He spends his life and he's worried about this this one.

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Speaker 1: Second that long. I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: The stuff we worry about, but the stuff we ought

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Speaker 2: to worry about. Nothing nothing gets done there, Deborah Mark,

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Speaker 2: that probably kept you up at night.

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Speaker 5: I bet huh not that the one second thing?

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Speaker 2: No, could you tell we were one second off? Sensitive

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Speaker 2: enough for that.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm going to pass on being worried about that one.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobbel on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 2: This is the kind of story that gets me so

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Speaker 2: a man in North Hollywood. Second North Hollywood story this hour,

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Speaker 2: and his he he runs a print shop in North

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Speaker 2: doing his work. His name is Panya. I don't see

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Speaker 2: a criminal that officials were chasing. Carlos Payne is his name.

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Speaker 2: Carlos Penna is the owner, and this guy was fleeing

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Speaker 2: US Marshals. This happened in August at twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: because Paynia had to run outside. The bad guy is

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Speaker 2: LAPD sends the SWAT team. Two hours they tried to

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Speaker 2: and realized the man wasn't there. It was ten hours

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Speaker 2: before Paynia was allowed back inside. He's had this business

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Speaker 2: Lancashire Walks inside and the tear gas had ruined everything,

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Speaker 2: over decades. They soaked the place in tear gas that

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Speaker 2: they didn't even need because the guy wasn't there. Painius

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Speaker 2: losses not covered by insurance. Most insurance agencies do not

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Speaker 2: cover destruction of property by police. You're going to check

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Speaker 2: your insurance, it'll say something like it doesn't cover damage

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Speaker 2: by order of government authority. And most people don't know

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Speaker 2: what that means. Well, what it means. Carlos Penia was

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Speaker 2: out of luck. So he goes to court, goes to

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Speaker 2: federal court. I guess because they started with the US

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Speaker 2: Marshals and a judge, John Walter said that the Lapd

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Speaker 2: raid constituted a valid use of police power not protected

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Speaker 2: by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. The Fifth Amendment

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Speaker 2: in parts says that the government cannot take private property

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Speaker 2: for public use without just compensation. Well, they took over

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Speaker 2: his print shop for twelve hours and destroyed everything inside,

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Speaker 2: and there's no compensation.

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Speaker 1: And Walter agreed it was unfair. It's unfair.

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Speaker 2: But the defendant, that would be the City of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: has no responsibility to compensate Carlos pana.

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Speaker 1: I. That is just astonishing.

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Speaker 2: You would think the city would do it anyway with

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Speaker 2: all the money that they went.

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Speaker 1: This is another example.

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Speaker 2: All the money that they blow on illegal aliens, and

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Speaker 2: here you have an American who's been working for thirty

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Speaker 2: one years, and in a few hours the swat team

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Speaker 2: destroyed everything and they didn't even need to. It declared

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Speaker 2: a values of police power that that is just sick

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Speaker 2: and and and for the city bureaucrats to fight this

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Speaker 2: guy and not give him a check considering what you

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Speaker 2: waste money on, ye terrible. Conways here, Conways, you got

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Speaker 2: to do something. You're a sucking burbank Yeah, to the

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Speaker 2: to the burbank government here, yeah, inexplicably.

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Speaker 1: And now they're going to turn Olive Avenue one lane

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Speaker 1: in each direction.

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Speaker 6: Well, I look, I've I've fought in the past for

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Speaker 6: to reduce the cell towers near schools and we won that,

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Speaker 6: and then I fought to raise money for the schools

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Speaker 6: proposition as we won that, and I sort of burned out.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're done, You're done fighting.

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Speaker 6: A little bit, right, Yeah, But I don't know. I

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Speaker 6: get stuck in traffic every day. I'm calling you, okay,

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Speaker 6: but look, you have a great point. And every once

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Speaker 6: in a while, a blind chicken gets a colonel. But

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Speaker 6: the people that are that are that that are driving,

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Speaker 6: and it's gonna effect.

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Speaker 1: They don't have time to go to these meetings.

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 6: I don't know when they are. That meeting was last

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Speaker 6: night till midnight. I could have gone. I didn't know

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Speaker 6: when it was. I got off work at seven. I

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Speaker 6: could have been there at seven fifteen. Raising how you

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Speaker 6: don't find out till after the fact. Nobody finds out

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Speaker 6: when these meetings are unless you're a regular who goes

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Speaker 6: to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the and the groups, the bike groups always

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Speaker 2: find out the people who were into public transit and

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Speaker 2: metro and all that they know.

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Speaker 6: Well, see, I'm with a group in Burbank trying to

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Speaker 6: open a casino in Burbank.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta lay low, I gotta I.

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Speaker 6: Gotta fight my battle, pick my June, my battle in

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Speaker 6: front of your house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have a tunnel, that's right.

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Speaker 6: We got Ravy coming on today from the Woody Show.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna be cool at four point thirty. Very funny,

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Speaker 6: young lady. And then we also have Joseph Leeb, remember him,

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Speaker 6: Senator Vice President Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: He died and he was a very cool dude. I

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Speaker 1: like that kind I like that. Joe Lieberman, Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was Al Gore's vice president. That's right. Yeah, nominee, that's right,

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Speaker 1: almost John McCain's I think he wasn't here. I think

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Speaker 1: he was John McCain.

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Speaker 2: No, he switched to Sarah Palin at the last minute. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're right, that's right. Yeah, but that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 6: But he but he was one of those like tweener

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Speaker 6: guys that you know that you could like sort of

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Speaker 6: have a conversation with.

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Speaker 1: It's a normal person. Didn't fit in any party.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'll accept that. I'll accept that, all right,

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Speaker 6: dig golong with you. By the way, And we didn't

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Speaker 6: I didn't win the Mega millions again, Well, obviously I'm here.

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Speaker 2: You realize every time you've bought one of those tickets

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Speaker 2: you've lost.

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Speaker 6: I know, but it's a time I know. But we

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Speaker 6: have a lotto captain who I personally like. But she's

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Speaker 6: horrible at picking numbers. But she's lost every one of these, right,

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Speaker 6: she's a bad Yeah. Look, she's a great friend and

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Speaker 6: a great uh uh wife and a great employee.

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Speaker 1: Not so good with the numbers. Yeah, all right, big

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Speaker 1: dog Conway.

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