WEBVTT - The Political Ramifications of the Roger Stone Arrest

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<v Speaker 1>that press conference and Trump Tower, didn't you or anyone

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<v Speaker 1>on your campaign have any contact with Russia? And the

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<v Speaker 1>denials were adamant. So it's it's with stories like this,

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<v Speaker 1>with movements like this, that we have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>and look at the narrative that they've been laying out

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<v Speaker 1>over the last two years on this. Absolutely, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>also be clear, take one step back here and say,

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<v Speaker 1>still no evidence that President Trump was involved in this?

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<v Speaker 1>Right is talking about Trump campaign officials, etcetera. And number two,

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<v Speaker 1>no indication yet that there was any direct contact with

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians. That's Dan Abrams, legal analyst on ABC News,

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<v Speaker 1>stepping in to rescue his co a legal analyst who

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<v Speaker 1>did what people do all the time, and did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I are doing it on this story today. She that

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<v Speaker 1>that woman there, she said we I asked the president directly,

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<v Speaker 1>has anybody in your campaign had any contact with Russian

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<v Speaker 1>And they said no, that's not what we're talking about today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about wiki leaks. He's being accused of talking

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<v Speaker 1>to wiki leaks. You just conflated wiki leaks in Russia

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<v Speaker 1>as if that's a given, and it's not. If it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out to be, that's a story, but that's not

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<v Speaker 1>known at this point. But even then, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>story is the question? Sure? David Drucker cover as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He covers everything that's important in the capital for the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Examinaries, the senior political correspondent, and joins us Now,

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<v Speaker 1>David never dull moment, huh know, I uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out west and I woke up and my phone

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<v Speaker 1>was pulled up alerts and uh you know, here we

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<v Speaker 1>go again with the story. Never does I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want to glimpse into David Drucker's life. So you

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up, you look at your phone like I

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<v Speaker 1>did you see all the news bulletins that came across

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Stone arrested. Did you sigh, did you get excited?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you put your head in your hands? What was

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<v Speaker 1>your reaction? In my reaction was is this going to

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<v Speaker 1>get in the way of other stories I find more interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Even though this is this could be a very important story,

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<v Speaker 1>good one. I mean, I think I think we're all

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much used to this at this point. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>will say the story in and of itself, the indictmon

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<v Speaker 1>of Stone, Um, the fact that we think the individual

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<v Speaker 1>he was communicating with, the Steve Bannett, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big deal. So the senior Trump official who

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<v Speaker 1>told him, hey call Wickily allegedly, hey called wiki leaks

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<v Speaker 1>and see what they got was the correct? Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough? Um. And as always, the question that we

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<v Speaker 1>try to ask to help clarify things for our listeners is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, does this go to being rude? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>go to being clearly unethical? Does it go to violating

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<v Speaker 1>campaign laws? Does it go to committing felonies? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>on cable news they try to whip it up that

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<v Speaker 1>everything is a felony. But if Stone called wiki leaks

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<v Speaker 1>and forget about the lying for now, because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>clear to me why you would have liked. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you called Wiki leaks and said, hey, we understand you've

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<v Speaker 1>got some dirt. What kind of dirt you got? Was

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<v Speaker 1>that a crime? Well, I'm not a legal analyst, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to tell you it is or is

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<v Speaker 1>not a crime because I'm not exactly sure, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a little complicated. I do think the political

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<v Speaker 1>ramifications could be serious, depending on what more comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, let's think about this, right, somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>is close to the Republican nominee for president, who is

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<v Speaker 1>working on behalf of if not directly before the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>nominee for president, is talking to foreign a foreign adversary

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, which Wiki leak is, and was

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<v Speaker 1>it continues to be that, yes, we did, because Wiki

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<v Speaker 1>leaks had already during the Obama administration leaked very sensitive materials,

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<v Speaker 1>classified information that was very embarrassing and damaging to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and its work around the world diplomatically and otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>And they they obtained the information basically illegally, and they

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<v Speaker 1>used it simply to damage the United States. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not like me having a whistleblower type source in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States government. They bring the information. I set it.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to government officials about what this all means.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a purpose here. You know, I've uncovered you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some wrongdoing or some you know, you're not being honest

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<v Speaker 1>about North Korean missile sites and all this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. This was just cables and information of a

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive nature between our Secretary of State and other officials

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<v Speaker 1>and foreign officials and made it harder for us to

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<v Speaker 1>do business overseas. It damaged the United States. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Wiki leaks has always been about. And so Roger

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<v Speaker 1>Stone is working with an adversary of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>that might have obtained information from another adversary of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, and he's using it specifically to damage the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic nominee for president. Now, there's nothing wrong with using

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<v Speaker 1>opposition research to damage the the opposition. We do all

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<v Speaker 1>do that, I mean mean political operatives, both parties. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing new and nothing wrong with doing it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other than some people have the ethical problems

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but it's perfectly within bound. But it's unusual,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least, to take information that may have

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<v Speaker 1>been illegally obtained from a foreign entity and with and

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<v Speaker 1>then use that wield that against the opposition, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>when adversaries don't you know, it's not about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>winning an election, it's about damaging the United States from

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<v Speaker 1>the point of view. Wiki leaks, yeah, and putin if

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<v Speaker 1>he was involved. David Drucker of the Washington New Saminar

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<v Speaker 1>is on the line. I've just been trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out this out. So if People Magazine, if if they

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<v Speaker 1>found out People Magazine had some dirt on Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bannon told Roger Stone, Hey, you know the guy

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<v Speaker 1>overt People Magazine, call him up and say, say, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the dirt and when you're going to release it? The

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<v Speaker 1>difference is People Magazine is not a hostile actor, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>And People Magazine wouldn't say. I mean, I get calls

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<v Speaker 1>all the time from you know, political operatives. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you have on my opponent? Am I going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I have? Unless I need you to comment

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<v Speaker 1>on this? When are you going to release it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a member of your campaign. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to strategically coordinate with you to defeat your opponent. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what I've got when I publish it. If I

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<v Speaker 1>need your comment, because that's part of my job. As

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist, I will call you say I have information.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to comment. That's how this works. I

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<v Speaker 1>will also give my the subject I'm writing about an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to comment. Well, let you, trusting my question would

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<v Speaker 1>have what's it working? It's not journalism. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make that clear. Look was not to journalism, right right?

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough? So, but again it goes, is that just unusual?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it unethical? Is it illegal? Or what? So? I

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<v Speaker 1>very unethical and possibly illegal, but I do not know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I do not want to give you information

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<v Speaker 1>that could be wrong. Fair enough, Yeah, absolutely so, just

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<v Speaker 1>out of curiosity. What we're what's a story you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You have a great deal of enthusiasm for today that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd really I'm not gonna in my world, it's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna tell you just in case. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Stone is listening from jail and then tells my

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<v Speaker 1>competitors and then they beat me to it. Also, it's

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<v Speaker 1>lurks here, but I will alert you guys next week.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're working on a story that you think is

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than there's Roger Stone thing, Well, that's worth paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to. I said, it's more important to me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>more fun for me. Okay, I'm in this. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>this for myself. Is it? Is it? Kamala Harris uh

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<v Speaker 1>being an item with Willie Brown back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>will I am willing to stipulate that I am not

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<v Speaker 1>writing about the personal life of any Democratic presidential Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>at least not at the moment. Fair enough. David Drucker

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington I'm struck by the fact that CNN had

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<v Speaker 1>cameras at Roger Stone's house. Did the FBI leaked to CNN, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going in get your cameras there. Kate Bennet of

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<v Speaker 1>CNN and tweeted that the report one of the reporters

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<v Speaker 1>they have monitoring covering the Muller investigation noticed, uh, some

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<v Speaker 1>activity at the courthouse or that got the brand jury

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<v Speaker 1>or something yesterday and just kind of inkling and decided

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<v Speaker 1>to jet down to Florida. And I will say, the

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<v Speaker 1>CNN has a very, very being reporting staff and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good reporters, And it totally strikes me if

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<v Speaker 1>you're covering this every single day and this is your job,

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<v Speaker 1>that these sorts of things sometimes do strike you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you you do these sorts of things so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily um on you you know crazy that um a, look,

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<v Speaker 1>border had a good feeling it was in the right

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<v Speaker 1>place at the right time. Okay, all right. David Drucker,

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<v Speaker 1>senior political correspondent in Washington Examiner. Thanks, David, good to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you. Good luck on that big expose you're

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<v Speaker 1>working on. Then the you know the thing. So, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Julian Assange is an enemy of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought that for a long time, yes, but all

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<v Speaker 1>of the media hasn't thought that for a long time. No. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>when when, when he was exposing various things that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the left leaning media doesn't like exactly, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a hero there for a while, truth seeker right,

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<v Speaker 1>helping out poor Bradley Manning for instance. Yeah, yeah, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>place James Comey made the points so beautifully that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're helping him, helping out the left and their media,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a hero. And if you're hurting him, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>villain who every motive must be questioned, and if it

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<v Speaker 1>changes next week, you're a hero again. So I just yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, Wiki Leaks is obviously an anti American organization. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not. They're not. Are they on a list

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere as a I don't know, that's an interesting respversary

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, I don't. I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I will repeat this since it's really in the nutgraph,

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<v Speaker 1>as we say in the news business, it's the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of what you ought to know. Roger Stone was indicted

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<v Speaker 1>only for lying and allegedly tampering with a witness, not

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<v Speaker 1>for anything to do with hacking or talking to wiki

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<v Speaker 1>leaks or reporting that John Podesto is an ass or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or any of that. Just lying, okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think if they were going to go to his

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<v Speaker 1>house and somebody, at least somebody local tiptop CNN. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I love David, but I do not buy that it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a dogged reporting. Wait a minute, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of action at the courthouse in d C. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they're going down to Fort Lauderdale. Let let's

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<v Speaker 1>pond thousands of dollars to send a CNN crew down

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<v Speaker 1>to Florida. Well, I have a feeling they have a

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<v Speaker 1>stringer who just watches Roger Stone's house. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are such an avowidly anti Trump network. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. What was I gonna say? Oh, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as the FBI and the Justice Department went to the

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<v Speaker 1>trouble of gearing up and and pounding out his door

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<v Speaker 1>and dragging him out of bed and his you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his uh, his T shirt and thong that he sleeps in. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think that go ahead and indict him for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>else was illegal while they were there. Um. So it

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<v Speaker 1>could be it's just lying where this ends. Nobody knows. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm exhausted by it, but he saw the hell done

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<v Speaker 1>wells Fargo is waving fees for furload federal workers trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get a good little pressed. We haven't forgotten. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nicely to do that. Glad you're doing it. Nice thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. You're you're still a criminal organization in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wave those fees for the next seventy five years,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that would equal the fees on various accounts for

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<v Speaker 1>cards that I never have to have open for awesome

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the Armstrong and Getty show, I'm strong and

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<v Speaker 1>get good conscience. When you're ready to ride metro, we

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<v Speaker 1>want you to know we're ready for you. Here are

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<v Speaker 1>just a few of the people at Metro to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how we're doing our part to keep riders safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Were cleaning like novel before the Great Queen. You have

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<v Speaker 1>found half sound of thousand Stasistro. No masks, no Metro

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<v Speaker 1>need one. We have a few extras at Metro. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing our part to keep the DC area moving. Find

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<v Speaker 1>part