1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, powered 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen breaking down 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: the Jets head coaching search the Jets as we record 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: right now Monday at noon, the Jets have interviewed eight candidates. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna break them all down. The Jets also, if 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: you've seen their different reports, they're reported to interview Saints 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: secondary coach Aaron Glenn, who of course used to play 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: with the Jets. But last week e A we talked 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: about this. The Jets were going to cast a wide 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: net in terms of the search, and we've seen that 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: not only with the eight candidates, but the variety within 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the candidates. Time is of the essence, and the Jets 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: said all along they were going to be very thorough 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: here with the head coaching search, and they certainly have 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: been thus far and already completed eight if you think 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: about it from a timetable perspective. Monday, Christopher Johnson addressed 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: the media, then Tuesday, Joe Douglas did, and then by 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday the Jets kicked off the search and earnest completing 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: an interview with Chief's offensive coordinator Eric b Enemy. And 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: then we're sitting here, like you just said, Monday morning, Uh, 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: just about an hour ago or maybe ninety minutes ago, 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the Jets announced they complete an interview with Titan's offensive 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: coordinator Arthur Smith, and it is anticipated the next domino 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: to fall here is going to be Aaron Glenn. And 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: don't think they're done there either after a g gets 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: his shot in front of Christopher Johnson, Himie Alahai and 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas of course, right, and I think we have 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: to start with Eric b enemy. Let's just go in 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: chronological order. But just as a side note, all the 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: guys at the Jets interviewed over the weekend. They could 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: not interview between Wednesday and until after they played. When 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: you think of guys like Brian Dable, Matt eber Flewis, 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, Arthur Smith, Aaron Glenn, even they all had 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 1: to go through Super wild Card weekend before any team 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: could interview them. So with that being said, let's start 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: with the enemy who could interview because the Chiefs had 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: the first round by So when you look at the 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs and you look at the enemy, the enemy has 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: a running backs background and he's been the coordinator there 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: for a couple of years and obviously defending Super Bowl champs. 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: They put up gaudy numbers. But the thing that I 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: think a lot of fans will say is while he 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: has a good reputation, so does Andy Reid. And Andy 44 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Reid is the predominant play caller there, so why is 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: he a good fit for the Jets? But my counter 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: on that doesn't matter that he hasn't called plays, because 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: let's go back to what Christopher Johnson said after making 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: the change in informer, informing Adam Gates that he would 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: not return in one the Jets were looking for a 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: CEO type. Well, to me, CEO type, I don't really 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: care if you have called plays or not. I'm looking 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: for a leader of men and a leader of my organization. 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: And Eric Bonemy I feel like he's in the coaching 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: carousel every year and it's he finally going to get 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: that job. Not just the Jets are henvry on him. 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: He's interviewed with the number of teams and he's well 57 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: bought him in Kansas City, He's been there a long time. 58 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: Think about going back to what two thousand thirteen, the seventeen, 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: like you mentioned before, the running backs coach background. But 60 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: he has been the offensive coordinator the past three years. 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: And if you want to talk about calm plays, well, 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: I think we should trust Andy Reid. And what he 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: said about Eric Bon, I mean he thinks he's going 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: He is a leader of men, and he also helps 65 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: him prepare that game plan each and every week. The 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: players have talked very highly of him. From a guy 67 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: like Travis Kelsey is going to be a future Hall 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: of Fame tight, I'm like we talked about saying he's 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: helped me take my game to another level. And then 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the game's brightest young star across the 71 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: National Football League and he said he's helped me. Eric 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: b enemy has helped me become a better person and 73 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: a better player. So I I don't look at that anymore. 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: As far as wow, that's a knock he hasn't called 75 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: plays in the National Football League. Well, that's okay, because 76 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: ultimately you're looking for somebody who is going to be 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: a great partner with Joe Douglas and a fit for 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: the New York Jets organization. But is the guy in 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: control of it all? Yeah, And when you look at 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City's numbers, obviously that roster is uber talented with 81 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill. I mean, the list 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: goes on and on, but they're the number one offense 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty total offense, number one passing offense, 84 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: the number one seed in the a f C. They 85 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: were six in the NFL and points scored per game 86 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine point six points per game. And Eric the 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Enemy's resume is very impressive. And then after b Enemy, 88 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: the Jets interviewed Marvin Lewis, who who is like the 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: opposite of someone like Joe Brady who will get to 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: because Joe Brady's thirty one, Marvin Lewis is much older 91 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: than that. I think he's in his sixties, right, he 92 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: might be sixty. Joe Brady and Marvin is sixty two. 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: There you go, and Marvin Lewis, I think, I think 94 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: the conception of Marvin Lewis in terms of NFL fans 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: is he was the guy that never could win the game, 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: the playoff game for the Cincinnati Bengals. But I think 97 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: that when you really look at what he did in Cincinnati, 98 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: from where that program was when he got there to 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: where it was when he left, and what it's been 100 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: since I think that you have to give Marvin Lewis, 101 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: I think more credit than he deserves. Well, there's a 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: not that he deserves more credit that he's been recognized for. 103 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Big difference there. Yeah, you were talking about perception. So 104 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: I go back to Eric Banimy and say, Okay, he's 105 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: one part of a winning culture and you're attracted to 106 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: that because the Jets have not been to the postseason 107 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: for ten years now, that's the longest playoff droute in 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: the National Football League. So let's fast forward to Marvin Lewis. 109 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: Let's think about culture. Let's think about developing a program. 110 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: Sixteen years in Cincinnati, seven times they went to the postseason, 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: four times they won the a f C North. Did 112 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: he win a postseason game? No? How many times does 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: since any Bengals get to the postseason prior to Marvin 114 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: Lewis arriving there seven times in thirty five years? So 115 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: I think the job that he did in Cincinnati, yes, 116 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: is under appreciated, uh in many places. And you look, 117 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: we could go back and look at all those games too. 118 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: There's a one game that stands out to me when 119 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: they're playing the Steelers. Fanta's perfect if if something doesn't 120 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: happen where you have a w there there, there's reasons 121 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: why things happen. But I'm I'm not holding it against 122 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis um And I think it's also good to 123 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: get his thoughts because he came to again an organization 124 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't accustomed to winning, and he turned them into winners. Ultimately, 125 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: did he get the job done or that Bengals get 126 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: the job done in the postseason. No. He also is 127 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty one wins on his NFL resume. 128 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: That's twenty seventh all time. Now people will say, what 129 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: the well, that's a longevity award. Well, namely another guy 130 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: who can last somewhere for sixteen years. That speaks to 131 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: who he is right now. Interestingly enough, co defensive coordinator 132 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: on her former Jets head coach Herman Edwards with Arizona State. 133 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: And let me say something about Herman Edwards. When we 134 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: go back to Eric b Enemy Herman Edwards before he 135 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: got the job with the New York Jets. You know 136 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: what he was doing. He was the secondary coach with 137 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Monty Kiffin was a defensive coordinare 138 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Hermann Edwards would not calling plays And that's not a 139 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: knock on Herm because to my point, Herm came to 140 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: New York and led the Jets to the postseason in 141 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: three of five years. As you hear my daughter in 142 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: the background, she's pretty excited about the point as well. Yeah, 143 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think she's pretty excited about the 144 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Jets coaching. Certain who the candidates are, but it's a 145 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: good point. And you know, as you're talking about someone 146 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that was a secondary coach, I mean, obviously I'm thinking 147 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: of Aaron Glenn because that's one of the candidates currently 148 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: the secondary coach of the SATs will obviously talk about him. 149 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: But I think it's a good point to wrap up 150 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: the Marvin Louis bow that you know, he does deserve 151 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: more credit than what he's given so for what what 152 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: he's received, and I think that you know, like I said, 153 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people might just think wow, wow, he 154 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: didn't he didn't do he didn't do it in Cincinnati, 155 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: but he also built it. And for a young team 156 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: like the Jets, someone that has that experience, maybe I 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: could I could see the appeal to Marvin Lewis because 158 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: he's older, he's he's got that like quiet respect, and 159 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I think that he would. He would really help shape 160 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: the organization and the young team that the Jets are. 161 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: And you're right. The big thing too is let's not 162 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: overlook the fact that there's some information sharing and gathering 163 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: going on, whether you hire somebody or not. In many 164 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: cases you're gonna learn just by having multi hour session 165 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: uh and talking about ideas and throwing things off people 166 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: and hearing about dirt vision. These are all good things. 167 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: The more people and the more diverse this group is, 168 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: so I don't look at this is a knock at all. 169 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas knows Marvin Lawis. Remember Joe Joe Douglas, excuse me, 170 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: starting the National Football League in two thousands, and he 171 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: was a personality assistant under Ozzie Knewsome. The defensive coordinator 172 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: for the Ravens at that time was Marvin Lewis, and 173 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Lewis led the NFL's lowest scoring defense in the history 174 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: of the league. And of course they won the first 175 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: of three Super Bowl rings. And that's another reason why 176 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: you've got to be excited if you're a Jets fan. 177 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has seen a champion before. He's been part 178 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: of three staffs in twenty plus seasons in the National 179 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: Football League who were the ultimate winners. Yeah, it's a 180 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: great point. And then so that that puts Eric b 181 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Enemy and Marvin Lewis in the rear view. Then the 182 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Jets go to Robert Sala, the forty Niners defensive coordinator, 183 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: who is I would say the epitome of like a 184 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: ra ra guy. If you've seen the forty Niners play, 185 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: He's always clapping. He seems like a very loud guy. 186 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: And he also seems like a guy that coordinates a 187 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: good defense but would demand their respect. And we'll see 188 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: this throughout all the different candidates. The CEO type Robert 189 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: tal I think is that and he death only gets 190 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: the most out of his guys with the energy that 191 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: he brings. He's an impressive guy. And he said, you know, 192 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: a very emotional on the sideline, like in a positive way. 193 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: He seems like he wears his emotions on his sleeve. 194 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: And everything is about encouragement and and getting the guys 195 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: not only just ready to go, but uh supporting them 196 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: and celebrating with the players when they do make positive plays. 197 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: And this team decimated by injuries in the defensive side 198 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: of the ball, But still what what were they this year? Like? 199 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Top five overall defensively or was it a fifth against 200 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: the best? No, they were there. The forty Niners defense 201 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: top five in the NFL and yards per game, passing 202 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: yards per game, and third down. They were also top 203 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: ten in rushing yards per game and red zone touchdown percentage. 204 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: There you go, you got, you got the numbers across 205 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: the board, and you know, and then you go to 206 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: what the players say about this guy or Richard Sherman 207 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: is highly gent highly opinionated as well, and throughout the 208 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: season you'd see quotes coming out of San Francisco him 209 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: raiding about Salah and his leadership, acumenability, the way he 210 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: takes charge of the defensive unit. And Kyle Shanahan has 211 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: talked about, I think we're gonna have to proceed without 212 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: him because he's sounded quite confident that he's gonna get 213 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: a job. He's a hot name on the coaching circuit um, 214 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: and that just stands out to you what happens to 215 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: you and how do you respond when you get punched 216 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: in the mouth, when you face adversity. The foding isnest face, 217 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: the ton of it on that side of the ball 218 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: and that unit did not go away. That's a testament 219 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: to him. And also when you think about the defensive 220 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: line that he worked with, obviously there's talent there, but 221 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: they lost the Forest Buckner in the off season. He's 222 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: now a member of the Colts, and we'll come full 223 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: circle there with Matt Eberflus, the Colts defensive coordinator. But 224 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: then Nick Bosa goes down ironically against the Jets and 225 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Week two and the forty Niners defense still one of 226 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: the best in the NFL and Nick Bosa. I mean, 227 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Sali was a part of Nick Bosa's development into the 228 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year or defensive Rookie of the Year 229 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: last year. So yes, that unit has talent, but you 230 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: said decimated by injuries and still able to perform. I 231 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: think is really the calling card there. And I think 232 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: that guy's play hard for him in San Francisco, and 233 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously transferable to wherever he ends up, 234 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: whether that's still in San Francisco or if Kyle Shanahan's 235 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: inkling comes true and he's he's elsewhere, whether that's with 236 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: the Jets or one of the other openings. I think 237 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: that whoever he coaches the they're gonna play hard for him, 238 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: so and I completely agree with that. I don't I 239 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: don't think anytime if he's leading up a team next year, Yeah, 240 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna play through the final whistle, and they are 241 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna play with energy and enthusiasm. You're never gonna look 242 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: at uh a solid code team and say, wow, they 243 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: just didn't seem to have it today. They were a 244 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: little front. That's not gonna happen with his team right exactly. 245 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: And then after Salah, the Jets interview thirty one year 246 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: old Panthers offensive coordinator Joe Brady. And I know that 247 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of NFL fans are always 248 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: in search of the next Sean McVeigh, the Rams coach. 249 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of the term ever since Sean McVeigh became 250 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: the youngest coach at the time he was hired to 251 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: be hired as a head coach with the l A 252 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: Rams has worked out great for them, obviously, So in 253 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: a copycat league, everyone's thinking, well, you know who's the 254 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: next guy, And some people have pointed to Joe Brady. Well, 255 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: I'll say before we dive into him that to your point, 256 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: the Jets are looking for for a CEO type, so 257 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: Brady has to fit that mold for the Jets for 258 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: consideration as well. But I will say that his resume, 259 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: while short in terms of NFL experience, is quite impressive 260 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: given that the Panthers had four players to reach a 261 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: thousand scrimmage yards in his first year as coordinator. Yeah, 262 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of ironic, right, because the Jets obviously hired 263 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: Adam gateson the last coaching UM coaching cycle, Matt Rule, 264 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: who they interviewed, went to Carolina and Rule just plucked 265 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Brady from L s U. Where Brady really made a 266 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: name for himself was two seasons ago with L s 267 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: U and Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Jamaar Chase and all 268 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: those dudes. They just went crazy and the numbers are ridiculous. 269 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: They went crazy and the rest of college football. So 270 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: people obviously a lot of talent there, no doubt about it. 271 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Eddio was getting after the recruiting um. But Brady took 272 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: an offense that for years you thought of L s U. 273 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: Maybe hey we're gonna run the ball. And with the 274 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Leonard four net types and they became a passing offense. 275 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: They fit that scheme does their personnel, and then Brady 276 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of tension in the NFL circles, so 277 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Rule actually ended up picking him for his offensive coordinator 278 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: and they did a lot of interesting things there. This 279 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: year again got some very talented players. Uh, they signed 280 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson free agency, Christian McCaffrey when he's healthy, one 281 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: of the best dynamic offensive weapons in the National Football League. 282 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: But he spread the ball around, you know, so that 283 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't just passing the football with Teddy Bridgewater and 284 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: Teddy a former Jet. There so a lot of connections 285 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: and we continue to see that in the league the 286 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: longer you're in it. Um. But he's a guy who 287 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people have raved about his work ethic 288 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: and obviously continues to climb here the coaching ladder. He 289 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: went from the n c A to the NFL and 290 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: now he's getting head coaching interviews. You know, the numbers 291 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: that you referenced at l S you are quite sickening. 292 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean that offense average five hundred sixty eight point 293 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: five yards per game, forty eight point four points per game. 294 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase second in the FBS with seven point one 295 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: receiving yards per game led the FBS with twenty receiving touchdowns. 296 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: The person that came in second and touchdowns was Justin Jefferson, 297 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: his teammate, who was the twenty second overall pick this 298 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: past season. I mean, the numbers are sickening. So resume 299 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: speaks for itself and you're ready to dive in on 300 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: the draft already. But that's one thing, and this is 301 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: not a draft podcast today. We'll have plenty of to 302 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: have plenty of times to talk about that. But let's 303 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: not forget about Jamar Chase out there. I know, folks, 304 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: Davante Smith, Hydman Trophy winner. We'll see if Waddles playing tonight, right, 305 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: but this guy Chase is unbelievable. Yeah. And Chase, of course, 306 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, opted out of the two 307 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: thousand twenty season, so he's hasn't played well and to 308 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: your point, he is a great prospect. So that's a 309 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: podcast for another time. In terms of the Jets head 310 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: coaching sir, after Joe Brady, the Jets interviewed three people Sunday, 311 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: all three of which played Saturday, and they started things 312 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: off with Brian Dable, the Bill's offensive coordinator, and that 313 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: Buffalo offense, I mean totally transformed, as has Josh Allen 314 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: this season. And uh that this year speaks for itself 315 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: in terms of what Dabele has been able to do 316 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: with Alan Stefon Diggs and and everyone else that's involved 317 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. There, well, Allen's rises with meteoric He's improved 318 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: each of his three seasons. There's a rookie you always 319 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: looked at the completion percentage. A big knock on him 320 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: coming out of y Oman when we did our draft, 321 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: prop was one is the last time you heard of 322 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: somebody who was inaccurate on the collegiate level, and he 323 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: comes an accurate quarterback, never six passer y on me. 324 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: So that was one of the biggest knocks right. Well, 325 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: this year, I think he completed close to seventy of 326 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: his path says he was the difference in the game 327 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: the wild card game between the Bills and Indianapolis Colts. 328 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: That you could say that the Colts won a lot 329 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: of those battles in that game and they have more 330 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: opportunities close to five hundred yards of total offense. But 331 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Josh Allen again was tremendous. I had a rushing touchdown. 332 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: I think a pair of TD throws and the and 333 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: the Bills were able to escape. And so you gotta 334 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: give a lot of people credit there. You give credit 335 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: to the individual because Allen has gotten better. You gotta 336 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: give credit to the organization because they've given them weapons 337 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: like you might just Stefon Diggs, right, and I signed 338 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley previously in free AGC and John Smoke Brown 339 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Um, but you gotta give credit 340 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: to day Ball, and you have to give credit to 341 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coaches. Well, who is Ken Dorsey ironically who 342 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: used to coach Cam Newton with Carolina Panthers. But long 343 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: story short about day Ball. He's a championship pedigree bottom line, 344 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: Eleven years in New England as an assistant under Bill 345 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: Belichick in various roles, five Super Bowl rings. Okay, how 346 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: are you gonna do in the collegian level? Will you 347 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: go to Alabama and Nick coach under maybe the college 348 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: coach college the top coach in college football history, Nick 349 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: Saban one year and you win a national championship with 350 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: two are playing quarterback right two thousand seventeen. You're also 351 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: had that offensive coordinating experience that people are looking for. 352 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: The play callers Okay, So because he was a coordinator 353 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, with the Browns in Miami and then 354 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: he has just connections to two thousand seven, two thousand 355 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: and eight working under Eric Mangini, but just watching the 356 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: Bills as we do a couple of times a year, 357 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: and then we get to see him play in prime 358 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: time and things like that. What I liked about the 359 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: offense is that his system changed each week, meaning you 360 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: didn't know if Josh Allen was gonna talk at twelve times, 361 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: and that's part of the game plan. They're gonna spread 362 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: the field with four they're gonna spread the field with 363 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: five receivers and go empty and and pick you appart there, 364 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: or maybe sometimes that we're gonna try to incorporate the run. 365 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: They all depended on who they played each week. So 366 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: you gotta like that. You gotta like the background he 367 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: has under these great coaches, Belichick most notably eleven years. 368 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: That's going to help you, Saban. That's another feather on 369 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: his cap. And he knows the FC East. I just 370 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: mentioned New England. Just think about it, eleven years in 371 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: New England. He's just been three years with the Bills 372 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and he was offensive coordinator at Miami. He knows his division, 373 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: this division inside and out. So people are asking to 374 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: him about six of the Jets opponents each year. I mean, 375 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: who's gonna know more than Brian day Ball. Yeah, it's 376 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: a It's a fantastic point and day Ball, I think 377 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: in terms of through the eye of the NFL fan, 378 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people see Brian Dable as a good 379 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: match with the l A Chargers because he went to 380 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: high school with GM Tom talsco over there. Then the 381 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: Jets interviewed Matt Eberflus, who I don't think a lot 382 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: of people know a lot about, but when you think 383 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: about player development, he's got a good track record with 384 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard in Indianapolis, one of the best linebackers in 385 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. And then you go back through his past. 386 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: Eberflus was the linebackers coach with the Cowboys. Jalen Smith 387 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: was there and he helped develop him and Sean Lee 388 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: back in the day. So those are all good things. 389 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: And then you think about a Jets connection. Well, Rex Hogan, 390 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: the assistant GM, used to work in Indianapolis under Chris 391 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: Ballard when Matt Eberflus was there as a defensive coordinator. 392 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: I think this guy is super intelligent, and don't I 393 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: guess we should not confuse a serious look more of 394 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: a calm demeter on the sideline for not being competitive, 395 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: because Eberflus considered to be extremely competitive. And you mentioned 396 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: the last three seasons with the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts 397 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: for a long time. Remember you know, before these guys 398 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: got there, Frank Reich and eber Fleus, they were all 399 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: about Peyton manning offense. And they made the transition to 400 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Locke and they you know, they tried to i'ull 401 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: score you. I thought. I think what we've seen from 402 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: Indianapolis now is that defense has become one of the 403 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: better units in the National Football League. I mean, bottom line, 404 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: what top ten in rushed defense and takeaways the past 405 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: three years. And eber Fleus constantly preached the need for 406 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: taking the football away and you mentioned player development. That 407 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: is a key piece. Christopher Johnson has said we are 408 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: a young team, were about to get younger. People are 409 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: all excited about the Jets draft positioning that got better 410 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I know we'll talk about that 411 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: here in a little bit, but that's the thing. Drafting 412 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: a good player is one thing, but drafting a good 413 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: player and developing is another. And what we've seen out 414 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: of Eberflus is he's been able to do that. So 415 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: they've gotten young talent in there, but that young talent 416 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: has gotten better and it's grown. And I think the 417 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: rush defense, Wow, Indianapolis top ten in rush defense the 418 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: last two seasons back to back for the first time 419 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: since seventy six seventy seven. That's saying something. Yeah, he's 420 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: done a tremendous shop in Indianapolis. I actually think it's interesting. 421 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know this before, you know, researching Eberfluce that 422 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: he was actually hired when Josh McDaniels was hired for 423 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: a cup of Coffee in Indianapolis perform. McDaniels turned down 424 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: the gig, and then Frank Wright got hired and kept 425 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: ebra Fluce on the staff. So you mentioned the Jets 426 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: traft positioning getting a little better, Well that's a credit 427 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: to Brandon Staley, whom the Jets interviewed Sunday night or 428 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: Sunday evening, the Rams defensive coordinator. And you know, I 429 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: know I mentioned before like finding the next Sean McVeigh 430 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: on offense while Brandon Staley, who obviously he's on the 431 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: same staff as McVeigh, might be the same thing, but 432 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: on defense, he's only thirty nine years old. He leads 433 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: the NFL's top unit, and I think kind of like 434 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: b enemy. The question on Staley as well, he's a 435 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: first year defensive coordinator and he's working with Aaron Donald 436 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey's so how good is he? I think 437 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: he's very good because the bottom line, their numbers are 438 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: better across support. And then you hear Jalen Ramsey talk 439 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: about Brandon Staley, it's very impressive. Uh as far as 440 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: him loving playing under Staley. And oh, by the way, 441 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: the Rams has took down Seattle over the weekend. That's 442 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's first home playoff loss. Russell Wilson had less 443 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: than ten completions. And you mentioned Aaron Donald. I saw 444 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald leave that game with the rib entry and 445 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: they were taking it to Seattle without Aaron Donald in 446 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: the lineup. Seahawks went two of fourteen on third down. 447 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: So Staley McVeigh shown the previously mentioned McVeigh. Sean McVeigh 448 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: has said he's a guy who looks at people's skill sets, 449 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: and puts them in position to make play. So I'm 450 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: never gonna hold that against the coach who is leading 451 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: the top unit in the National Football League on the 452 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, saying, you coach great players, 453 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: will show me a great player, and typically I'm gonna 454 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: show you a very good coach on that defensive side 455 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: of the ball or whatever side of the ball they're 456 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: coaching number one in the NFL. U Gonna be interesting 457 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: to see what happens this weekend when they go against 458 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, because that's gonna be an even 459 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: tougher challenge. But Russell Wilson lesson tank completions. The other 460 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: thing I like about Staley, which I think is very intriguing. 461 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: Greg Williams, former Jets defensive coordinator, talked about this too, 462 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: that he used to play quarterback himself. Well, Staley was 463 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback at Dayton, So you like that that mindset 464 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: of that resume of yeah, I used to be attacking 465 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: the defenses and I had to read how people were 466 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: rushing me and also what coverages they were doing and 467 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: disguises in the back ends. And now I'm doing that 468 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: to opposing quarterbacks. And obviously he's doing it pretty well. Yes, 469 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: he is, and I think that he has a very 470 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: good reputation in the NFL, even though he's only been 471 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: a coordinator for a single season. And then earlier this morning, 472 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: like you said, before we take this podcast, the Jets 473 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: interviewed Arthur Smith, the Titans offensive coordinator. The Titans were 474 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: eliminated yesterday, which was Sunday, after losing to the Baltimore Ravens, 475 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: and Arthur Smith's resume is very interesting. He served under 476 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: four different coaches in Tennessee and he's thirty eight years old. 477 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: And since being named coordinator in two thousand nineteen, that 478 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: offense really took off ever since Ryan Tannehill was named 479 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: quarterback mid season last year, Benjing, Marcus Mariota, and of 480 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: course Derrick Henry's led the NFL in rushing yards and 481 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: touchdowns back to back seasons. Tennessee was tied for second 482 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: and ards per game this season, number two in rushing 483 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: red zone touchdown percentage. Very important and that unit really 484 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: has very impressive numbers and Smith has been a big 485 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: reason for that. Yeah, you struck the nail on the 486 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: head right there. There are not too many assistants in 487 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. Were able to hang around for ten years 488 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: and work with four different head coaches in the same organization, 489 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: So that just speaks to him. One of the guys 490 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: that I had the great opportunity to work with at 491 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: the Jets organization for a long time in the longest 492 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: tenure from an assistant perspective, was Bob Sutton, And Bob 493 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Sutton held a ton of different roles on the defensive 494 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: side of the ball, defensive coordinator, linebackers, and the list 495 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: goes on and on. Most of the time he was 496 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: with the linebackers, But it speaks to the man and 497 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: how well respected he is that it didn't change for 498 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: such a long time and that Andy Reid eventually had 499 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: him over as defensive coordinator. But yeah, Arthur Smith is 500 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: a young guy though thirty eight years old. Obviously, they 501 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: got Derrick Henry there and you talk about great players, 502 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: what a back, and then Ryan Tannehill over the last 503 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 1: two seasons, he's totally he's totally changed the directory of 504 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: his career. We used to think of Ryan Tannehill as 505 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: the guy, what is he gonna be? Is THEFL first 506 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: round pick, and he's become a very solid quarterback in 507 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: the National Football League, so a lot of credit has 508 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: to go to Smith. Um there they lost to the 509 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Of course, had it had nothing leading that 510 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: ball game, we're in the um. We're not able to 511 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: put him away, but the Smith is now, he's available. 512 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: As you mentioned before, Well we gotta figure out here. 513 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: If the Jets end up choosing one of these coaches 514 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: with playoff experience who are on teams who are advancing 515 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, is when can he get a guy 516 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: in here? And I wonder if that factors into the 517 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: decision at all. Yeah, that's an interesting point. My first 518 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: my first instinct would be known, But I mean it's 519 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: a good point. Like I'm pretty sure when the forty 520 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: Niners high hired Kyle Shanahan, he was the offensive coordinator 521 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: with the Falcons when they lost the Super Bowl, they 522 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: couldn't officially do anything until after the Super Bowl. So 523 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: that's just something to keep in mind with some of 524 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: these guys that are still alive. One of them, I 525 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: think you're right. I think you're right. Just real quickly, 526 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: I think I think you completely right on that is 527 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: that Joe d and the way he goes about his 528 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: business is if this is the right person. You'll wait, 529 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: You'll wait for it. I just think it makes the 530 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: process probably a little bit easier because I'm sure everybody 531 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: wants to get gone right. You want to get that 532 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: partner in house and start attacking all these off season 533 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: needs you have, especially when you consider the magnitude of 534 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: this offseason for the Jets, having the financial flexibility that 535 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: they have the number two pick now the number twenty 536 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: three pick, and number thirty four or six picks in 537 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the top one hundred, which could change to five based 538 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: on compensatory selections and whatnot. But we'll get to that, 539 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, later in the off season. But my point being, 540 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: it's a long offseason and it's an important one for 541 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Jets want to have this guy 542 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: and as quickly as possible, but they also want to 543 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: make sure that it is in fact the right guy. 544 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: To your point, and one of those guys who's still 545 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: alive in the playoffs is Saints secondary coach Aaron Glenn, 546 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: who of course used to play for the Jets, and 547 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: the Saints beat the Bears Sunday, and Aaron Glenn, I mean, 548 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: I guess would you kind of consider him like almost 549 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: a dark horse candidate in terms of the public perception, 550 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: because I don't even think he was a guy where 551 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: if he asked ten people, like ten fans, ten experts, 552 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: to put together a list of who you think the 553 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Jets would interview, I don't know how many lists Aaron 554 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: Glenn would have been on. Fair Maybe you're under the radar, candidate, 555 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: but I think the more you you in in investigate 556 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: and the more you appreciate Aaron Glenn's resume, the more 557 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Right. Uh. You know, he played here, 558 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: had success, and he played here under one of the 559 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: NFL's top builders, if not the NFL's top builder in 560 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: the history of the league, Bill Parcels. So he played 561 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: under that. He saw that firsthand, Okay. And he played 562 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: with a couple of coaches here with the Jets obviously 563 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: and most notably recently with the New Orleans Saints secondary 564 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: coach working with Sean Payton on one of the NFL's 565 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: top head coaches over the course of the last twenty years, easily, 566 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: So he's gotten a lot of experience on about He's 567 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: done different things here with the Jets. I like it 568 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: that he knows the organization, he knows the Johnson's he 569 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: knows Himie l Hi. He also knows what it's like 570 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: to play in New York and also what it's like 571 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: for people to coach in New York and be in 572 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: that spotlight. And he knows this fan base and he's 573 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: been he's been a successful Uh not just as a player, 574 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: he's been successful as a coach. So I really like 575 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: this one. Again. Are people gonna say, well, he's not 576 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: calling plays. It doesn't matter, really doesn't. You Guys just 577 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: gotta find the right head coach, the right leader of men, 578 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: and the right CEO, the right partner for Joe Douglas, 579 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: the right visionary for Christopher Johnson, him Ali and Joe Douglas, 580 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: and and the guy who's gonna put together the best plan. 581 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's tremendous. Um. I know Aaron personally. 582 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: He's a good man, he's a smart man. He was 583 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: a really good football player, one of the Jet top 584 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: cornerbacks who have ever played for the New York Jets. 585 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: And he's right in the mix of it right now 586 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: with the New Orleans Saints. You know, I think that's 587 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: a perfect way what you were describing. I know you 588 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: were talking about Aaron Glenn, but also it applies to 589 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: everybody in terms of partner vision, identity. All that stuff 590 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: is what the Jets are looking for in their twenty 591 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: head coach of the organization. And what better way to 592 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: close out the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web 593 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: Services with a little former Jet action and Aaron Glenn obviously, 594 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: As this coaching search continues, make sure to check out 595 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: New York Jets dot com. We break down all the 596 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: candidates there as well, and we have articles on each 597 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: candidate that the Jets have interviewed. And we'll be back 598 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: next week for another edition of the Official Jets Podcast 599 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: powered by AWS.