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Speaker 2: Eventually everybody gets blasted at some point. The question is
Speaker 2: here around the room, Danetz, has anybody in this room? Well,
Speaker 2: let's just we're gonna go through our own little pole here.
Speaker 2: We'll start with you, Paulie. Have you been blasted with
Speaker 2: pepper spray? No, not directly.
Speaker 3: There was a fight in college and people were trying
Speaker 3: to pull people off, and the cops were pepper sprang
Speaker 3: everyone and I got a little waft of it, but
Speaker 3: not a direct hit. But even the waft of it
Speaker 3: was like I had to pull back and then I
Speaker 3: just ran for my life. Not directly, so no.
Speaker 2: Not directly, Fritzy.
Speaker 4: I was not pepper spread.
Speaker 5: But I did have the police once tell me to
Speaker 5: get down on the ground, which was very frightening because
Speaker 5: I was in Santa Monica and I was driving back
Speaker 5: to the gym to my apartment and I started get
Speaker 5: nervous because I realized I didn't have my seat belt
Speaker 5: on and I felt like there was a cop behind me,
Speaker 5: and then I started weaving in and out of little
Speaker 5: side streets trying to avoid it so that I can
Speaker 5: put my seat belt on and hope that maybe he's
Speaker 5: just trying to get past me and he's following me
Speaker 5: into some kind of mini mall, and I guess he
Speaker 5: was acting like I had done something wrong obviously and
Speaker 5: get down, and they had me get down on the
Speaker 5: gun and I was just trying to explain that I
Speaker 5: got nervous because I realized that I didn't buckle my seat.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't believe any of this for a second.
Speaker 2: I think you've just reenacted Rayleiota's final scenes in Goodfellas.
Speaker 3: I completely agree, because look how nervous Fritzy sounded retelling
Speaker 3: the story. Imagine a police officer yelling at him what
Speaker 3: kind of condition he'd be?
Speaker 6: Wh are you going down all these side streets? What
Speaker 6: did you do?
Speaker 4: Get down?
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm moved my hand a certain way,
Speaker 5: and they felt like I was reaching for something, and
Speaker 5: it was terrifying for someone that was like a you know,
Speaker 5: mister goody two shoes straight aged to it.
Speaker 4: That wouldn't hurt a fly.
Speaker 5: The police telling me to get down face first on
Speaker 5: the concrete.
Speaker 2: Was yeah, yeah, I mean you no, not seriously, that
Speaker 2: is the craziest seating. You probably have some very interesting stories.
Speaker 7: It's wild, I do. I've never been pepper sprayed. I've
Speaker 7: been in the vicinity of people who have been pepper sprayed,
Speaker 7: similar to Pat forty, and it's it's not pleasant, it's
Speaker 7: not idea. It definitely makes you be like, I'm glad
Speaker 7: that wasn't named at my face. I do think it's
Speaker 7: interesting that Todd nearly got him self shot and killed
Speaker 7: over what amounts to a fine. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7: In nineteen ninety two or whenever this was.
Speaker 2: Was, he talked about working out and like a fifty.
Speaker 7: Dollars fine, it's definitely worth you know, the seat belt fine,
Speaker 7: or you know, possibly running people down while trying to
Speaker 7: avoid the police and getting shot.
Speaker 2: I mean, most interactions with law enforcement for most people
Speaker 2: are when you've done something wrong, and so there's just
Speaker 2: an incredibly nervous reaction when you get pulled over for
Speaker 2: doing something wrong.
Speaker 3: I have a buddy in college. He had the guy
Speaker 3: a policeman behind him. He was doing nothing wrong. He
Speaker 3: started this was like a highway, and he started going
Speaker 3: really slow. He got pulled over for going too slow
Speaker 3: on the highway. He got like under forty five miles
Speaker 3: an hour. Yeah, what movie was that from? Like the
Speaker 3: guy got pulled over for going too slow? Remember that,
Speaker 3: it was like you were going seven you were going
Speaker 3: seven miles an hour?
Speaker 6: Oh a black sheet with Chris Farley.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Chris Farley's driving along. He's like, how fast
Speaker 2: was I driving? Officer, He's like, it's like seven miles
Speaker 2: an hour. That is, you can't go that slow, Sir Marvin,
Speaker 2: how about you?
Speaker 6: Same as the other guys in a vicinity, but never directly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, of course, you know, most people who know
Speaker 2: my backstory, we just assume, like I've had plenty of
Speaker 2: opportunities for never never been around it, never seen it
Speaker 2: ever happen. It happened in somewhere else. Closest I have
Speaker 2: I had bear spray when I was hunting. I was
Speaker 2: up in the mountains hunting elk. I had the bear
Speaker 2: spray on me. Grizzly and Mama Grizzly and her baby
Speaker 2: were down. Oh yeah, I got it out. And that
Speaker 2: was the closest that I've ever had to pepper spray.
Speaker 2: It works that it plain and simple. If it can
Speaker 2: dissuade a mama grizzly bear, pepper spray is the biggest
Speaker 2: attorney you can have if you're a cop out there
Speaker 2: to get somebody down and make them go away.
Speaker 3: Imagine that bear going back to his cave and telling
Speaker 3: his buddy, I just got pepper sprayed by Ryan Lee.
Speaker 2: Can you believe that, guys? Yeah, she was just precting,
Speaker 2: protecting her babies. I just wanted to get out of there.
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was hunting elk and that
Speaker 2: was that was more important to your point, Fritzy. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: like the only time I've ever like, I'm coming back
Speaker 2: through Canada to go turn myself down in down in Texas. Okay,
Speaker 2: my lawyer has told me that the DA has allowed
Speaker 2: me to travel freely. There was a fugitive warrant that
Speaker 2: was there. I pull into the border there in I
Speaker 2: think it's Ellensburg, Washington, from Vancouver, British Columbia to because
Speaker 2: I was going to treatment and I was working there,
Speaker 2: and I remember just looking across and I see the
Speaker 2: woman with my passport. All of a sudden, I kind
Speaker 2: of look back. I look again, like she is like
Speaker 2: slid back, like she was like in a magic shoot,
Speaker 2: just disappeared. The thing closes, she has my passport, and
Speaker 2: then I can see in the rear view on the
Speaker 2: side view, like swat teams with machine guns coming up
Speaker 2: on me, and I'm just like, I'm just freaking out,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, clearly the DA did not remove
Speaker 2: the warrant. And now this is going to be over
Speaker 2: every news network. And now it's gonna say Ryan Leaf
Speaker 2: arrested at the border. So now it's gonna be look
Speaker 2: like I was fleeing the country. And I mean, the
Speaker 2: book comes out soon, people, you'll be yeah, you'll welcome
Speaker 2: to our two. Everybody. Oh, when Dan gets back, he's
Speaker 2: always just like, did I really ask Ryan Leaf to
Speaker 2: guest host my show? It goes off the rails so fast,
Speaker 2: so fast with him. But headlines for US is just simple.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We got Derwin James All Pro safety for the Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers going to join US. Big game last week,
Speaker 2: finished it with an interception against the Atlanta Falcons on
Speaker 2: the road. I want to get into the resurgence with
Speaker 2: Jesse Minter as the defensive coordinator on this team. Jim
Speaker 2: Harbour's the new head coach off of what Brandon Staley
Speaker 2: was as a defensive mine over the last few years,
Speaker 2: and then some of the uproar, you know, around the
Speaker 2: Al Shazier concussion hit forum, hit to Trevor Lawrence when
Speaker 2: he was fined and when he was suspended. How difficult
Speaker 2: is it for a safety coming up to make it
Speaker 2: tackle trying to prevent a first down or something like that?
Speaker 2: When quarterbacks like Mahomes and Caleb Williams and guys who
Speaker 2: are incredibly athletic are twisting and turning. Are they going down?
Speaker 2: Are they not? Are they trying to pick up an
Speaker 2: extra yard? How does that work?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 2: I think he'll be a fascinating guest. Dieing into football,
Speaker 2: football football, right. We got the bigger game tonight between
Speaker 2: the Lions and the Packers, huge Saturday slate of college
Speaker 2: football championship games, which we'll get into the third hour
Speaker 2: when Andy Staples joins us too. I'm really finding a
Speaker 2: hard time figuring out why these games are even being played. Seriously,
Speaker 2: they to me, they're serving no purpose. The final rankings
Speaker 2: that came out this week. See don't you think that's
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 7: It is a problem. I think that's a massive problem.
Speaker 8: Though.
Speaker 2: It's a massive problem.
Speaker 7: Those are the things that are supposed to mean something meaningful.
Speaker 2: You can win a championship with how them to play
Speaker 2: the game. Were you the top team in the conference.
Speaker 2: What's the one lost team in the SEC this year? Texas? Right, Texas,
Speaker 2: Texas is the SEC champion. Yeah, okay, deal with it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And they said, well Georgia beat them earlily here, Well,
Speaker 2: Georgia couldn't figure out how not to beat lose to
Speaker 2: Ole Miss Okay, so let's let's let's move on from that.
Speaker 3: And the weird thing is if you listen to the
Speaker 3: different people from the committee and the different people on
Speaker 3: different networks talk about it, these games only matter. Like
Speaker 3: half I was surprised when they said, well, if SMU
Speaker 3: loses to Clemson, they'll be okay, you know, I said.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought they're out out.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well Clemson's in with a three is a three loss
Speaker 2: conference champion, very automatic bid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like, uh, you know, Georgia, they're gonna be
Speaker 3: Everyone said they're gonna be fine. It's almost like they
Speaker 3: look at this weekend asco the accomplishment is getting there
Speaker 3: and they're not gonna ding you much for a loss.
Speaker 2: Well, let's say Georgia loses to Texas and it's their
Speaker 2: third losses. Georgia in Yeah, it's a bad loss. And
Speaker 2: what if they got smoked. It's unlikely, but it could happen. No,
Speaker 2: very well, could happen. Texas is capable of of, you know,
Speaker 2: knocking your wheels off. They can't do that. They got
Speaker 2: the athletes, they got the play callers, they got the
Speaker 2: team that could do that. I just you know, hey,
Speaker 2: so you know, I wasn't gonna quite dive into the
Speaker 2: college aspect of things here, but we'll get into that
Speaker 2: more later. Okay, we have an hour or two poll
Speaker 2: seaton do we have not going yet?
Speaker 7: Yeah, let me update you from the first hour. Okay,
Speaker 7: let's see perception wise, how important is tonight's game for
Speaker 7: the Lions that one stays at that's at about fifty
Speaker 7: one percent. It's extremely important. Why do you think that
Speaker 7: results is so close?
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's probably some deference to that by
Speaker 2: fear of Lions fans are like, hey, if we were
Speaker 2: to lose this game, it's not that big deal. Okay,
Speaker 2: two losses, We're still at the very top. You know,
Speaker 2: we're going to fight the Eagles little bit more, you know,
Speaker 2: but I want home fields, So it's kind of it,
Speaker 2: you know, So I understand it's the Packers the Lions going, hey,
Speaker 2: let's right now. We have to change what the status
Speaker 2: quo is and has been for the Detroit Lions, for
Speaker 2: every fan base out for every fan out there, for
Speaker 2: everybody who's watching too. We win these games. We win
Speaker 2: these games. We put people down, and guess what, you
Speaker 2: all have to come through Ford Field. This place is
Speaker 2: gonna be rocking. Eminem was there last week. I think
Speaker 2: it a chance to meet Minem on Thanksgiving. I was like,
Speaker 2: I really thought he might be on the field, and
Speaker 2: I was just gonna be like like that that that
Speaker 2: is one celebrity that I would just I would Oh,
Speaker 2: Marshall Mathers, That's that's that's my deal right there.
Speaker 7: He might be the one celebrity that makes me most
Speaker 7: nervous to meet. Really yeah, I don't know if I
Speaker 7: would want to meet him. Actually, for me, it's for me,
Speaker 7: it'd be just like, dude, you're my hero. You got
Speaker 7: sober and you did it in front of everybody, and
Speaker 7: you told everybody about on how to do it, and
Speaker 7: you made huge inroads for someone like me listening to
Speaker 7: your record going that's how I felt, that's how Oh
Speaker 7: my god, that's exactly. How Like I don't see him
Speaker 7: as like this recording artist extraordinary. He's this guy that
Speaker 7: made his way from this, you know, the absolute bottom
Speaker 7: to the top with dre And But for me, it's
Speaker 7: a much different conversation seton. Yeah, I don't mean nervous, like,
Speaker 7: oh my god, he's such a big super He's gonna
Speaker 7: mess with me and he's gonna make me feel aware
Speaker 7: I did before I met him.
Speaker 2: Who Marvin, Who are guys you being nervous to meet
Speaker 2: out there? Marvin?
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan? Like what do I say?
Speaker 9: And on top of that, I'm not sure if Michael
Speaker 9: Jordan would be the most like receptive.
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 6: Is tough? M Well for me?
Speaker 2: For me, it's uh like I've met movie stars, athletes,
Speaker 2: everything like that. Where I get fearful and where I
Speaker 2: get nervous is when I meet golfers, like if I
Speaker 2: run into Jordan's speath, or if I Bryson DeChambeau or
Speaker 2: you know, when I would spend some time in around
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, like it was just I was just like
Speaker 2: a snot nosed kid again, Like it was overly fearful
Speaker 2: and nervous and like, don't say something wrong, don't do
Speaker 2: something stupid. I don't know why that is now it's
Speaker 2: shifted and changed a little bit just because of you know,
Speaker 2: the way that golfers have behaved in that. But uh,
Speaker 2: who else out there? What about you, PAULI?
Speaker 3: Uh, first name that popped in my head would be
Speaker 3: David Letterman. I've admired him for so long. I don't
Speaker 3: know his reputation for fandom. I guess he's not. He
Speaker 3: doesn't love it. He only lives about twenty minutes from
Speaker 3: where we live, and so I always thought maybe he'd
Speaker 3: run into me. I don't think I would go up
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 2: He lives in this in the Connecticut.
Speaker 3: Area, Yeah, I think in a small town.
Speaker 2: He also lives in Montana, like like literally forty miles
Speaker 2: from where I grew up.
Speaker 3: I think if I was in a restaurant and he
Speaker 3: was next to me, I think I would probably say nothing.
Speaker 3: I'd regret it forever, but I'd probably not bother.
Speaker 2: I met him once. I was on a show when
Speaker 2: I was drafted. And he doesn't talk to you before
Speaker 2: you sit down right now, doesn't talk to you. And
Speaker 2: then you're told don't make any sudden movements, and and
Speaker 2: do not shake his hand forcefully when when you Those
Speaker 2: are the two things. And Marissa Tomey was in the
Speaker 2: green room with me, oh.
Speaker 6: Led with that Ryan.
Speaker 2: She was horrible to me. Really what, Well, I understand,
Speaker 2: I'm a twenty one year old punk kid, and here's this.
Speaker 2: It's Marissa Toomey, right, I mean, come on, you know
Speaker 2: my cousin Vinnie, you know Seinfeld all at that time
Speaker 2: for me, and and she was just like, I think
Speaker 2: she maybe thought I was the help. I really do.
Speaker 2: I think she's like, can you give me some some
Speaker 2: peanuts or or something?
Speaker 1: Kid?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's nice she wanted to share a meal with Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe but thought but that yeah buried Lee.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I met David Letterman one time. He's done
Speaker 2: some amazing things in Montana, especially around the Shodo Rodeo
Speaker 2: time in the July fourth area where he's brought in
Speaker 2: like Willie Nelson to say. I mean he's done some
Speaker 2: amazing things, of course, just an incredible gentleman. His his
Speaker 2: one on one interviews he did on Netflix after his
Speaker 2: time with the with the Late Show has been been
Speaker 2: really good. Fritzy, you have somebody that you'd be first.
Speaker 5: I had one question Firstly, if you were to see Eminem,
Speaker 5: what would you say, Hey, how's it going, Eminem?
Speaker 4: Like, what would you like say exactly?
Speaker 2: I would say, I would say Marshall.
Speaker 4: Oh, you would call Marshall?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Does he like that being called Marshall?
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I maybe could find out immediately
Speaker 2: if it was the wrong choice. I would assume with
Speaker 2: from the reaction on his on his face. I think
Speaker 2: that's what Setan was talking to, like, like if you
Speaker 2: say something something wrong to him them, and first of all,
Speaker 2: he's thinking about how he could just absolutely obliterate you
Speaker 2: in that song. He's very, He's very. He's the he's
Speaker 2: the he's the He's the rough and rugged rap version
Speaker 2: of Taylor Swift and spurned relationships I feel like, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say, I would first say Marshall's so so
Speaker 2: amazing to meet you.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: Also on on Thursday, Uh, Jeff Daniels huge Detroit Lions then, right,
Speaker 2: but but bigger for me and my family. Dumb and
Speaker 2: dumber fame right as hy. So we are in ann
Speaker 2: Arbor two thousand. I am a guest of Jim Harbass
Speaker 2: at his celebrity golf tournament, playing with Jeff Daniels and
Speaker 2: I saw Jeff on the sideline. I walked up to
Speaker 2: Jeff and I said, Jeff Ryan leif probably don't remember me,
Speaker 2: and he said, oh, yeah, quarterback quarterback. I said yes,
Speaker 2: but to me and my family much different. We played
Speaker 2: with you at Jim Harba's tournament in ann Arbor year
Speaker 2: and years ago, and you did the most amazing thing.
Speaker 2: We called and got my little brother, Brady out of
Speaker 2: school middle school. We called North Middle School in Great Falls, Montana.
Speaker 2: You need to go get Brady Leaf out of class,
Speaker 2: bring him down to the office, and get on the phone,
Speaker 2: because Jeff Daniels is going to tell him a story.
Speaker 2: They got my brother out of class, brought him down
Speaker 2: to the principal's office. There, the principal, I think his
Speaker 2: name was mister Snow, hands Brady the phone and Jeff
Speaker 2: Daniels tells him verbatim like punch for punch, the xlax
Speaker 2: toilet scene from Dumb and Dummer.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you are a what was Brady a
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen year old kid or something like that, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's to have it. And so I told Jeff Daniels,
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, there probably aren't many
Speaker 2: actors Ryan that would have done that. And I said, no,
Speaker 2: there aren't, sir, and that's why you're that special to
Speaker 2: me and my family. And he was just like that,
Speaker 2: you just kind of nodded like that was a either
Speaker 2: it was a really embarrassing story, I told him, or
Speaker 2: it was one that he felt very good about and
Speaker 2: fond about. Because he was very fond about it was
Speaker 2: very fond for me and my family, my brother's that's
Speaker 2: a crazy sho. I hadn't thought about it for years
Speaker 2: until I saw him and me I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, he did that for us.
Speaker 4: That's the kind of education kids need.
Speaker 2: They do need that, and you should be able to
Speaker 2: be pulled out of class, whether it's a you know,
Speaker 2: an important algebra, geometry thing. To hear Jeff Daniels talk
Speaker 2: about fake pooping on a toilet and one of the
Speaker 2: greatest movies ever ever made, speaking of ever made Derwin
Speaker 2: James one of the greatest safeties hybrid players ever to
Speaker 2: answer the NFL. He's going to join us next right
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Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Lee filling in for Dan today. Uh Derwin
Speaker 1: James from the Chargers, All pro safety's going to join
Speaker 1: us here shortly, talking football, football, football. Really much different
Speaker 1: than when I hosted back this spring. When the NBA
Speaker 1: Draft happened. That was new for me, a little awkward.
Speaker 1: It's a little awkward, but we got through it and
Speaker 1: did a pretty good.
Speaker 2: Job, I feel. But now it's all about football, from
Speaker 2: the NFL to college football, the new version of the
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff with the twelve teams. I'm gonna we're
Speaker 2: going to dive into this in hour three, but just
Speaker 2: kind of to throw it out there a little precursor
Speaker 2: here for everybody. You know, the idea that what college
Speaker 2: football has become for me has been the minor leagues
Speaker 2: like it is to baseball. Now, hear me out here. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're all getting paid now, essentially, but the guys that
Speaker 2: are getting paid paid are the ones at the professional level.
Speaker 2: And that's what I want to see. I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go see Otani playing the minor leagues.
Speaker 2: I want to go see him play for the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: right I want to go see them, And for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: I feel like that with college football a little bit
Speaker 2: right now. I want to see the Schduur Sanders in
Speaker 2: the NFL. I don't I don't necessarily need to see
Speaker 2: him in the College Football Playoff. Also, they're still in
Speaker 2: college like, this is still a collegiate football program. They're
Speaker 2: not a pro team, though they're active upon as such.
Speaker 2: And the idea that the fan bases are still just
Speaker 2: like one hundred and thirteen thousand people went to Texas, Texas,
Speaker 2: A and m like the Rillerry aspect of it, Michigan,
Speaker 2: Ohio State pepper spray fall. Where's the emotionality that's just
Speaker 2: flying through the roof still for all this stuff, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe because my alma mater got left behind.
Speaker 2: And this last year I called games for the CW
Speaker 2: and all our games were Oregon State and Washington State games.
Speaker 2: So my focus has been entirely on the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: So I've been week in week out watching I call
Speaker 2: two Oregon games this week this year, one game at
Speaker 2: the Big House against Michigan Oregon. The number one team
Speaker 2: in the country all year long, undefeated. So that was
Speaker 2: about as close as I got it to it. Outside
Speaker 2: of that, the FCS, right Montana State been focused on that.
Speaker 2: The FCS playoffs, I'm calling the National Championship here in
Speaker 2: a few weeks for Westwood One in Frisco, Texas. Anticipating
Speaker 2: is probably gonna be, you know, similar to what we've
Speaker 2: seen the last few years. You'll see a Dakota team
Speaker 2: in there, and probably in Montana team. It seems like
Speaker 2: that's the direction it's headed. You know, Montana State only
Speaker 2: undefeated team I think out there in the FCS. They
Speaker 2: have led. They've led every single minute of every single
Speaker 2: FCS game this year. The only game they traveled trailed
Speaker 2: in was against New Mexico and they found a way
Speaker 2: to come back and win that one. They absolutely destroyed
Speaker 2: the Montana Grizzlies people. Oh, the brawl, the wild what
Speaker 2: do we got, Marvin?
Speaker 9: Going back to NIO, do you think there should be
Speaker 9: a salary cap or can you even.
Speaker 2: Listen to this? This is a good one, all right.
Speaker 2: So the athletic director at Colorado, he was on the
Speaker 2: committee that the NC DOUBLEA had presented for nil in
Speaker 2: terms of regulation. But the NC double A when the
Speaker 2: announcement came down from Justice Cavanaugh judgment or whatever it was,
Speaker 2: the NC double A was just such like a tortured
Speaker 2: petulant child said, you want the wild West, you can
Speaker 2: have the wild West. They disbanded the committee, the regulatory
Speaker 2: committee that was going to oversee nil and it was
Speaker 2: just gone. And so now we have what we have
Speaker 2: where let's stay in my situation at Washington State, we
Speaker 2: have probably the best college football player in all of
Speaker 2: American John Mattier led the nation in touchdowns. If they
Speaker 2: don't lose to New Mexico and then fall apart against
Speaker 2: Oregon State in Wyoming at end of year, they're eleven
Speaker 2: to one, they're probably in the playoff and John Matier
Speaker 2: should probably be in New York because he's the best
Speaker 2: quarter back in the country. You know that no one
Speaker 2: knew of when they entered the season. But because of that,
Speaker 2: we don't see that. And the only way we can
Speaker 2: keep him in Pullman is if the collective in Pullman
Speaker 2: finds a way to pay him enough money to stay.
Speaker 2: Because it's the cam ord scenario, right, we had cam
Speaker 2: Warden a year ago. He goes to Miami Martin.
Speaker 9: Yeah, after your sophomore year, Like, are you staying no
Speaker 9: matter what at Washington State. I know Highsight's twenty twenty,
Speaker 9: but listen.
Speaker 2: To be a legend somewhere like Washington State, it's a
Speaker 2: different thing. And there's something to him from little Elm Texas.
Speaker 2: He's got this swagger to him. We've seen what Gardner
Speaker 2: Minshew turned into one year of playing in Pullman into
Speaker 2: what it's been. I mean, he's more popular than I
Speaker 2: ever could be, and I took him to a Rose Bull.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the kind of popularity that John Matier
Speaker 2: can have in Pullman. But I'm also not going to
Speaker 2: begrudge him ever if he were to go, let's say,
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma to following the footsteps of his offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: Ben Arbuckle, who just left and did a tremendous job
Speaker 2: at Washington State during his tenure there, Like, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: surprise me at all. There's more, there's deeper pockets he could.
Speaker 2: You know, you're not guaranteed to play in the NFL, people,
Speaker 2: I don't care how good you are. Shadoor Sanders is
Speaker 2: probably the most easily recognizable guy to go play in
Speaker 2: the NFL because of his dad and all everything like that.
Speaker 2: But guess what, you know, he may play a year,
Speaker 2: he may play two. Who knows what that looks like.
Speaker 2: So the fact that he can make generational wealth while
Speaker 2: in college doing the thing that you do best at
Speaker 2: the time, then you got to do it. So I'm
Speaker 2: never going to begrudge any player now because of it.
Speaker 2: Just the older generations look around and go and look
Speaker 2: for loyalty. They look for you know, why can't you
Speaker 2: do that? And I've seen a lot of kind of
Speaker 2: old timers or even the Washington State fan base. I
Speaker 2: asked one of I asked Jack Thompson, our kind of
Speaker 2: our godfather of quarterbacks. He's the thrown some own one
Speaker 2: of the first uh third third pick in the draft
Speaker 2: of the Bucks or what was it the Bengals, I
Speaker 2: can't remember, but I asked him, you know, when did
Speaker 2: when did when did the fan bases get get to
Speaker 2: be such kind of whiny, whiny sobs?
Speaker 4: You know it?
Speaker 2: Really they're whiny about everything.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: I know they're hurt. PAC twelve got disbanded, and I
Speaker 2: know they're hurt, but I'm just like they wanted to
Speaker 2: fire the head coach, Bro what what what revisionist history
Speaker 2: do you have? We went eight and four. We beat
Speaker 2: Texas Tech in Washington.
Speaker 6: Seaton. Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 7: The word loyalties is so interesting because it doesn't go.
Speaker 7: It doesn't exist anywhere, right and well, and it really
Speaker 7: never did. Yeah, it really never coach coaches can jump
Speaker 7: wherever they want. Uh they the only thing that the
Speaker 7: only people that stay loyal are the fans. Yeah, other
Speaker 7: than that, everybody else is operating in a business. So
Speaker 7: even as a fan, you have a quarterback and then
Speaker 7: you get rid of them because now you have a
Speaker 7: better one, Well, what about loyalty?
Speaker 6: That was our guy?
Speaker 7: Well, no, it doesn't matter because now we got a
Speaker 7: better guy.
Speaker 2: We want a better guy.
Speaker 7: Well, a quarterback can transfer because they got a better offer,
Speaker 7: they got a better deal, they got a better situation
Speaker 7: for themselves. And that's scene as a negative. Despite they're
Speaker 7: they're doing the exact same thing that other people have
Speaker 7: been able to do forever.
Speaker 2: Listen, you heard Dan yesterday with Pat forty and the
Speaker 2: fanatic right aspect. Fans are fanatics. There's a definition to them.
Speaker 2: It's so odd to see fans reactions in deference to
Speaker 2: players reactions. As an analyst now a former player. When
Speaker 2: I show up on the field to call games and everything,
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable to see the reaction from players in terms
Speaker 2: of how they know me now right. I don't think
Speaker 2: a lot of them know me as necessarily guy who
Speaker 2: played or played poorly in the NFL. They know me
Speaker 2: as an analyst now and I'm a very I advocate
Speaker 2: very strongly for the player, and that is not dismissed
Speaker 2: in the circles of locker rooms in this league. And
Speaker 2: they know that when I step on the field and
Speaker 2: when they come talk to me, or maybe I was
Speaker 2: on their campus in college and their coach asked me
Speaker 2: to speak to the team. That's where I learned a
Speaker 2: lot of them. Roman Doonsday comes over to me on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Don't forget, he's in the University of Washington graduates, so
Speaker 2: we have a lot of animosity there as it is.
Speaker 2: Gives me a big old hug. Talks to me about
Speaker 2: how appreciative he was that I came and took time
Speaker 2: and spoke to and how meaningful it was, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: how cool is that to be that that change? You know,
Speaker 2: Derwin James were efforting that still in LA but Tuesday
Speaker 2: was an anniversary of mine, ten years since I walked
Speaker 2: out of a prison. Though okay, I talked to Fritzy
Speaker 2: before the show, and I want to throw up the
Speaker 2: when we get a chance. At some point, I want
Speaker 2: to throw up the first public words I had about
Speaker 2: a year and two months after I had been out
Speaker 2: in twenty and sixteen, the Super Bowl in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: PAULI ran into me in a hotel on my way
Speaker 2: to get a medical exam that the NFLPA was putting on,
Speaker 2: and he just say, no pressure or anything, if you'd
Speaker 2: like to come on talk about life.
Speaker 6: And I did.
Speaker 2: I talked to a lot of people and whether I
Speaker 2: should do it or not, and I did, and I
Speaker 2: walked on to set, and I sat down, and me
Speaker 2: and Dan just had a conversation. And it literally was
Speaker 2: the catalyst to where I'm at now, publicly, broadcasting wise,
Speaker 2: everything like that. Because I was not interested in any
Speaker 2: of that. I just I just wanted to disappear. I
Speaker 2: wanted to go work and be of service to others
Speaker 2: and no one ever to see me again. But as
Speaker 2: we found out that just that doesn't happen. My name
Speaker 2: is synonymous with an NFL bust and every April May
Speaker 2: it gets brought up.
Speaker 6: It's triggery.
Speaker 7: Well, what you've done is very tricky because they be
Speaker 7: safer way obviously to do it as privately right, and
Speaker 7: you open yourself up publicly like that, to potentially fall
Speaker 7: on your face, you know, it's hard.
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard, yeah, And I'm telling you it's been
Speaker 2: ten years, and he would have been hard set to
Speaker 2: find anybody or myself even to think I would make
Speaker 2: it one year, you know, when I walked out, and
Speaker 2: the idea of what hope.
Speaker 7: Was yeah, track record right for not not you personally,
Speaker 7: but just the history of the things you're struggling with.
Speaker 2: And then success rates and dercidivism with are incredibly overpopulated
Speaker 2: prison population in this country, and so all of that's
Speaker 2: stacked against you. And but luckily, I mean I posted
Speaker 2: something last night after Fritzy you know, set the show
Speaker 2: run for today, and I was just like, you know, incredibly,
Speaker 2: I'm incredibly honored and humbled that the great Dan Patrick
Speaker 2: trusts me. I mean, come on, he trusts me. This
Speaker 2: is his show. I mean, this is his legacy, this
Speaker 2: is what he's done. You guys are his gatekeepers. You know,
Speaker 2: and you guys have carried me. Really if you go
Speaker 2: back and look at it for the nine years you
Speaker 2: carried me. So yeah. I mean, I haven't done any
Speaker 2: of this on my own and speaking to the fanatics
Speaker 2: side of it, and it is a it is a
Speaker 2: tricky situation because guess what, I have to be critical
Speaker 2: of people, not the person, the act or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: analysis or something the fans can't differentiate. The fans' response
Speaker 2: is very cutting, it's very personal, and it's very rooted
Speaker 2: in my past. I'm a huge Montana State Bobcat fan.
Speaker 2: Like my dad took me in nineteen eighty four to
Speaker 2: watch Kelly Bradley win a national championship. I saw a
Speaker 2: quarterback in my home state. When did championship at eight
Speaker 2: years old, I was like, okay, this is my team forever.
Speaker 2: I disliked the Montana Grizzlies greatly, right, you know, that's
Speaker 2: that's rivalry. That's rivalry. And Fritzy's got a Gris sticker
Speaker 2: on the front of his desk and I went over
Speaker 2: and I don't know if anybody knows, I ripped it
Speaker 2: off and I went through it in the toilet. But
Speaker 2: last week I did a little trolling.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, like, I'm still a fan too.
Speaker 2: I'm there's a fanatic in me there too. So I'm
Speaker 2: trolling the Grizzlies a little bit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that the apathy is set in in
Speaker 2: in Missoula. And and no one showed up at the
Speaker 2: game Saturday night, no or Friday night, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: No one showed up. No one cares anymore. Uh. If
Speaker 2: you want to be a winner, you gotta go to
Speaker 2: Montana State. So I was just you know, I was
Speaker 2: trolling pretty pretty hard, you know. And uh, but the
Speaker 2: fan base whoa like it was like the vitriol of
Speaker 2: my past, you know, it's all of it. It's it's
Speaker 2: my intent was to rile them up. My intent had uh,
Speaker 2: it's its effect uh and uh and they're going to
Speaker 2: the grizz are going to get their butts beat this
Speaker 2: weekend by the jack Rabbits by in Brookings. So we
Speaker 2: won't have you don't have to hear my voice about
Speaker 2: how bad the Grizzlies are people, and we'll only be
Speaker 2: talking about how great the Bobcats are. Did we just
Speaker 2: delve into Montana Big Sky Conference FCS plans, see what happens.
Speaker 2: You know, Derwin, you you don't show up and show
Speaker 2: the chargers and talk about the charges. I gotta talk
Speaker 2: about you know, you know how crappy the Grizzlies are
Speaker 2: and how great the cats are. I mean, that's just
Speaker 2: it's a it's the fitting of a great show here.
Speaker 2: Polypaps would be very proud because of course he loves
Speaker 2: he loves himself the FCS. And we are in it
Speaker 2: deep right now. Montana State takes on you T Martin.
Speaker 2: That's some pretty good ones. Rhode Island University of Incarnet
Speaker 2: word versus Villanova. Yeah, Rhode Island, Rhode Island, still in it.
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna try one more time, efforting to
Speaker 2: get Durwin back here. And then we got some dour rankings.
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't understand what dower rankings. That are
Speaker 2: the opposite of power rankings.
Speaker 6: Huh, yes, exced power rankings.
Speaker 2: Dour our rankings. Yes, did I say that right? Dour rankings.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll try here. During the break. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back here on the Dan Patrick Show. I'm Ryan Leaf.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to The Dan Patrick Show. Ryan Leaf
Speaker 2: here filling in for Dan Derwin James and I can
Speaker 2: relate to this. I lived in Los Angeles for some time,
Speaker 2: stuck in traffic. Yeah, LA traffic, the four or five everybody,
Speaker 2: that's a real thing. It's a real thing. It's just
Speaker 2: not something made up that they show headlights at Christmas time,
Speaker 2: you know, And I mean.
Speaker 7: That is that like famous piece of video for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7: You see the traffic going both ways, it's like seven
Speaker 7: lanes each way.
Speaker 2: And I've been I've been in that traffic. Boy. I
Speaker 2: lived in the Hollywood Hills for seven years, so much different.
Speaker 8: Easy.
Speaker 2: It was very easy commute this morning, even though it
Speaker 2: snowed last night. I got here with the little pit
Speaker 2: stop and don't crazy and Stratford shout out to donut
Speaker 2: crazy in seventeen minutes, everybody, all right, that would be
Speaker 2: my commute to word.
Speaker 4: It's very thoughtful for you to bring donuts to their crew.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: You guys are amazing, you know, and it makes me
Speaker 2: look better every time when I show up dinner and
Speaker 2: you guys look a little bit, Oh, that's what you're doing,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, And it's just it's just another
Speaker 2: example of why you know, when when Dan you know,
Speaker 2: if he's ever hanging up, you know, it's you know,
Speaker 2: if you need somebody to come by, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: seventeen minutes from here.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's like, uh, might I could be a
Speaker 2: fifth Danette? I guess the way to put it here,
Speaker 2: you we could just call this the Danette Show.
Speaker 7: I remember the one time I went to Los Angeles,
Speaker 7: one of the first times I went with the show.
Speaker 7: I had a uh my cousin lives out there. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so I called him. I was like, hey, what's up, dude,
Speaker 7: I'm in LA.
Speaker 2: We should get together.
Speaker 7: He's like, sick awesome, let me know where you're staying, Like,
Speaker 7: what's going on over at?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 7: So I'm in Santa Monica.
Speaker 2: Where did he see me?
Speaker 6: And I was.
Speaker 7: Like, hey, dude, I'm here or whatever? And he was
Speaker 7: in like Los Fheelas or whatever, you know, and I
Speaker 7: was like, hey, man, so I'm staying in San Monica.
Speaker 7: It was like He's like, oh, I thought we were
Speaker 7: meeting for dinner. I'm like, yeah, we are. He's like,
Speaker 7: you want me to drive there this time? He's like,
Speaker 7: you know how long It's gonna take me four hours
Speaker 7: to get there. Like, but dude, it's like this far
Speaker 7: on the map. It's like that far. It's like right there,
Speaker 7: like I came from Connecticut together here And he's just like, sorry, man, maybe.
Speaker 2: I like you and all, but this is crazy. My
Speaker 2: brother lived in Venice, in Venice Beach, and he would
Speaker 2: never go east of the four or five.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: We lived in the Hollywood Hills. And the only time
Speaker 2: if if you wanted to see his nephew, you have
Speaker 2: you have to go to his I mean he was
Speaker 2: not leaving it. Yeah, pritzy, you.
Speaker 4: Got to play the meet halfway game?
Speaker 8: Is there?
Speaker 2: Like he wasn't he wasn't going he wasn't going east
Speaker 2: to the four or five. And it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: that old joke on Saturday Night Live when they all
Speaker 2: the Californians when they start talking about the where how
Speaker 2: we get to the place, you know, and that would
Speaker 2: be your cousin would have talked to you like at
Speaker 2: this time, I'd have to go up the four or
Speaker 2: five then I have to take across the New Coast
Speaker 2: Freeway and then circle around to you know it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the Pacific Coast Highway and all those things like that.
Speaker 2: Ryan here, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4: Ryan?
Speaker 2: I was in the Hollywood Hills. So to go off
Speaker 2: on a tangent there, that means Derwin James is going
Speaker 2: to join us at eleven o five at the top
Speaker 2: of the second hour to talk about the Chargers and
Speaker 2: everything that's been going on. Uh in hour two. Now
Speaker 2: we're able to get into the Dower rankings, not the
Speaker 2: Power rankings, the Dower rankings. So you guys have some, uh,
Speaker 2: some examples of that for me, so you can lead
Speaker 2: a su frizzi.
Speaker 5: I was excited at one point about Kirk Cousins and
Speaker 5: the Falcons, and I think you had mentioned them.
Speaker 4: But they've lost three games in a row.
Speaker 5: They went from six and three to six and six,
Speaker 5: and they've got the Viking. They're at the Vikings and
Speaker 5: the second to last game of the season they got
Speaker 5: to go visit the Commanders.
Speaker 4: I am Dower on the Falcons.
Speaker 5: That looked like a team that was gonna be neck
Speaker 5: and neck with the Bucks or maybe win that week.
Speaker 4: NFC South, the Falcons are in some trouble.
Speaker 2: I was there with you. I think I even tweeted
Speaker 2: out buld takes exposed if you want to use this one.
Speaker 2: I had Lions Falcons NFC Championship game. I think it
Speaker 2: was three weeks ago. Three weeks ago. To your point,
Speaker 2: I think I did it three weeks ago. Young Wayku
Speaker 2: is just absolutely fallen off. Used to be like the
Speaker 2: most accurate kicker, winning games for him. Kirk Cousins turned
Speaker 2: into just an absolute turnover machine. You know, I know that.
Speaker 2: You know the final throw to that Denman James intercepted
Speaker 2: in the game, he had to throw. It was fourth
Speaker 2: down and Drake London's falling backwards a little bit. You
Speaker 2: have to throw that ball because it's fourth down, but
Speaker 2: still four turnovers if he doesn't turn it over in
Speaker 2: that game, they win that football game easily against the
Speaker 2: Chargers team that's a playoff contender. So yeah, with you,
Speaker 2: I'm total. That's dour. That's dour times for Atlanta looks
Speaker 2: like Tampa Bay. You know what's even dour for me
Speaker 2: in that division is the New Orleans Saints. Guess what
Speaker 2: they win that game? They win that game last week.
Speaker 2: They're five and seven, folks, and that means they're one
Speaker 2: came back in the division after firing their head coach.
Speaker 2: Instead they lose and they go to four or seven,
Speaker 2: So you might go NFC South Dower, Dower. Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: that's the way look us up for Tampa. All right,
Speaker 2: what else do we got there? Mister stet and O'Connor.
Speaker 7: My uh, you know it pains me to say this
Speaker 7: because I want this team to be great. I want them.
Speaker 7: I would love to see this team win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: I love I like the players a lot. I really
Speaker 7: love the identity of the team, like so much about it.
Speaker 7: But they're inconsistency just really has me doward on them.
Speaker 7: The Baltimore Ravens, Oh yeah, I love the Ravens. I
Speaker 7: really do. I think they're awesome. I do think Lamar
Speaker 7: Jackson is great. I love Derek Henry. I want to
Speaker 7: see those dudes get a ring, say flowers all get it. Hell, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's awesome. They're exciting, But damn you, eight and five
Speaker 7: I think they are now if you look ahead at
Speaker 7: their schedule, their remaining schedule, that looks like a lot
Speaker 7: of wins or is it. I don't really know. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I really don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, the fact that they have five losses right now exactly,
Speaker 2: you know that there's a team that actually they look
Speaker 2: at their schedule, I could say they're nine and when
Speaker 2: the season's over, right, I'm calling the Texans game on
Speaker 2: Christmas Day? Is that a win?
Speaker 7: I don't know? Is it exactly?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Steelers?
Speaker 6: Steelers?
Speaker 2: They don't beat the Steelers. They were the best team
Speaker 2: in the NFL last year and they didn't beat the Steelers.
Speaker 2: They both games last year.
Speaker 7: You feel like they're beating the Giants. Yes, they also
Speaker 7: have the Browns in there. I want to say, well.
Speaker 2: It depends on what what entertaining value Jamis Winston shows
Speaker 2: up in that game?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean Jamis beats the Steelers then goes to Denver
Speaker 2: and throws for eight hundred yards and seventeen touchdowns and
Speaker 2: fourteen interceptions. You know, it's the most entertaining quarterback in
Speaker 2: the NFL. I think it's fun to watch. He makes
Speaker 2: it fun. Fritzy.
Speaker 4: He made Jerry Judy look like Jerry Rice. We talked
Speaker 4: about that the other day.
Speaker 5: Who I know, Judy had an axe to grind and
Speaker 5: wanted to stick it to his former Bronco team. But
Speaker 5: that was ridiculous how we torched the second ary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't. I don't quite get why
Speaker 2: they were getting pressure on him with four down line
Speaker 2: and I don't know why they kept blitzing, because once
Speaker 2: you did that, you put Jerry Judy in a one
Speaker 2: on one matchup. And if you put Jerry Judy in
Speaker 2: a one on one matchup, predominantly the most of the game,
Speaker 2: he's gonna win. And that's that's just gonna happen for anybody.
Speaker 2: And the fact that he caught the ball and got
Speaker 2: on the endzone I think was big. I enjoyed watching
Speaker 2: the football game. I did. It was an enjoyable game
Speaker 2: to watch bo Nicks. Bo Nix has been special this year, right.
Speaker 2: I think early on everybody had the Jaden Daniels Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Year war being you know, polished, but you
Speaker 2: know bo Nix has gotten sneakily back into that conversation
Speaker 2: in the back to the mix. So yeah, Dower, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm a little dour on the on the Ravens too.
Speaker 2: I don't really have any faith the dominating the way
Speaker 2: that they were dominated by the Eagles on Sunday at
Speaker 2: home Justin. And I think when you lose Justin Tucker,
Speaker 2: like when you lose like the there's a confidence that
Speaker 2: leaves you as a Ravens fan when it leaves the
Speaker 2: body of Justin Tucker, because you know that like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's you don't know if he's gonna make it. Rather
Speaker 2: you you pretty much believe he's gonna miss it now.
Speaker 2: And that's never been the case with Justin Tucker. Marvin
Speaker 2: Dower dour rankings.
Speaker 9: Marvin, I am super dour on the Chicago Bears after
Speaker 9: firing Matt Eberflus, firing their OC, losing all these close games,
Speaker 9: and it's all started there, losing Street started with the
Speaker 9: hail Mary in DC. And so I'm super dower on
Speaker 9: the Bears.
Speaker 6: Man, it's you have.
Speaker 2: That, we have that audio. I think it'd be a
Speaker 2: good time. So so I was at the game, Okay,
Speaker 2: So I called the game and I'm Jason Bennetti is
Speaker 2: just spot on on the way he's calling at the
Speaker 2: end of the game, and we're just both looking at
Speaker 2: each other. What's going on here? What's going on here?
Speaker 2: How does he not know where they at? Why isn't
Speaker 2: Matt eberful students. I mean, they're gonna lose this game.
Speaker 2: You better throw this in the end zone for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: That's the only way. And he throws it near the
Speaker 2: end zone. I mean, it was just the most horrible
Speaker 2: time management situation. Matt me Eterflus, Matt Eberflus gets fired.
Speaker 2: Right yesterday we heard some sound Caleb Williams, the Bears quarterback.
Speaker 2: This was at his presser on Matt Eberflus being fired.
Speaker 10: I think this is a stepping stone of development.
Speaker 8: You know, to be able to have all of this in.
Speaker 10: My first year, I wouldn't say that I'm happy for it,
Speaker 10: but you know, having these moments is is definitely something
Speaker 10: that will help me in the future. Having these situational
Speaker 10: moments that you know you can't it's it's hard to
Speaker 10: rep in practice.
Speaker 8: I'm having some of these moments, having.
Speaker 10: You know, your your your your coach fired, your coaches fired,
Speaker 10: and people being promoted, and you know, things like that
Speaker 10: all happen and within you know, a couple of weeks.
Speaker 8: Of each other. Yeah, I think it. I think it
Speaker 8: would have helped me in the long run.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's a that's a take you know that's
Speaker 2: a take. You know you had a hand in those
Speaker 2: guys being fired essentially too. Also, it's the way I
Speaker 2: put it when I talk to people, I said, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for having spent three years in prison. I
Speaker 2: don't recommend it, but I'm grateful. Okay, So you know
Speaker 2: this is a Caleb Williams scenario. I'm grateful for what
Speaker 2: has happened and what I'm going through. I don't recommend it.
Speaker 7: See all right, and now though it Caleb Williams. Now
Speaker 7: that everyone's fired, Okay, Now whose fault is it?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 7: It's on you, dude. Now it's on you because every
Speaker 7: you know, everybody that you bring in can't be wrong.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: So now it's going to be on you.
Speaker 2: Well, now it's knowing it could go It could actually
Speaker 2: go to Ryan Poles for drafting him. Sure, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's there's a lot that can be set aside. Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams has not thrown an interception in forever people, He's
Speaker 2: not turn it over, hasn't looked like an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 2: and haves of games either. So they are where there are.
Speaker 2: The record says where they're at. Do you want them
Speaker 2: to win? Some games you want them a better, have
Speaker 2: a draft pick, a higher draft pick. It's a bigger,
Speaker 2: bigger conversation to have on what that's going to look like.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: When we come back, Derwa James is going to join
Speaker 2: us all pro safety for the Chargers, as well as
Speaker 2: Andy Staples to talk a little college football when we
Speaker 2: return on The Dan Patrick Show.