1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Lauren Volkbon and 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm Amy Reese, and today we're talking about one of 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: the things that I shouldn't need. Oh it's one of 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: my favorite things. It's garlic. Garlic, garlic. I use it 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: probably every day, and in college people would know I 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: was cooking because the whole dorm it smell like garlic. 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: And it's a great pet name. I recently ran into 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: a dog named garlic, and I'm a second. No, that's 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: that's really good name. That's like quality. Yeah, like it 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: a lot. Oh, man, that's too bad, Lauren, Well, what 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: is it garlic? What is it? Well, it comes from 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: the lily family, it does. It's closely related to the onion, shallot, chive, 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: and leak, and is native to Central Asia. The word 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: traces back to the Old English word for spear leak 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: our garlic are was a word for for a type 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: of spear spearhead. Yeah, exactly. Scientifically, it goes by Allium sativum. 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Non scientifically, it goes by stinking rose or natural antibiotic 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Russian penicillin, vegetable viagra, and plant talisman. I hope that 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: that has you your interest peaked. Um slang from nineteen 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: twenties America might refer to garlic as halitosis, italian perfume, 21 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: and bronx vanilla. So it's got a lot of it's 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: got a lot of names. The whole thing is called 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: a garlic bulb, and each bulb has about ten to 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: twelve individual segments called garlic cloves. It's a perennial with 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: bees and other insects doing the pollinating. It can grow 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: up to four ft or about one point two meters 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: and is one tough pliant. The U s d A 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: classifies it as a hardiness Zone eight, meaning it can 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: withstand temperatures from twelve degrees celsius or ten degrees smary 30 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: night to negative seven degrees celsius or twenty degrees fahrenheit. 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: Perhaps thanks to this hardiness, it's pretty easy to grow, 32 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's grown all over. Garlic that's going to be 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: sold fresh is actually still harvested by hand, and each 34 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: segment or clove is a potentially working seed. You can 35 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: plant them separately and they'll segment and grow into bulbs, 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: and the stems of some garlic plants called scapes are 37 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: also used in cooking. Their little bit like scallions. There 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: are just tons of varietals of Allium sativum, plus a 39 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: few species of onion uh Genus Allium that are commonly 40 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: called garlic, like elephant garlic, which is actually part of 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: the leak family, which explains why it's kind of milder 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: and more leaky tasting then true garlic. The two main 43 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: sub varieties of Sativum are soft neck and hard neck garlics, 44 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: named for the types of stalks that grow up from 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,559 Speaker 1: the garlics bulb or root. Soft necks have flexible stalks 46 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: suitable for braiding once they're eye and hardnecks have stiff stocks. 47 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Makes sense, it does. A variety of soft neck called 48 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: artichoke is probably the most common in American groceries. Hardnecks 49 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: tend to be a little bit like spicier and more 50 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: garlicky uh. Soft necks a little bit more delicate and 51 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: grassy tasting. All of the sub sub varieties and that 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: wasn't me to stuttering like I sometimes do. Like subvarieties 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: of these subvarieties, they all have slightly different flavor profiles, 54 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: which can be really fun to play with if you're 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: into that sort of thing. Um the Internet can tell 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: you all about them. Black garlic, by the way, that 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of chewy, sweeter, more subtle, dark colored garlic does 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: not grow that way. It's regular garlic that has been 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: gently fermented. Bacteria. Poop wins again, back, always wins. Yes. 60 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: Each year, Americans eat about two fifty million pounds of garlic, 61 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: or about two point five pounds her person on average. However, 62 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: if you think that's a lot, the South Koreans have 63 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: as way beat, with a yearly twenty two pounds per person. 64 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: China is the largest producer, though, coming in at an 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: annual twenty tons, and that is about eight of global production. 66 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: During the Chinese garlic craze of two thousand, garlic was 67 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: more valuable than gold. What and although the value of 68 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: American garlic production was about two thirty two million dollars. 69 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: As Americans are the largest importers of fresh garlic, most 70 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: garlic used as food in the United States, about about 71 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: the market is actually dehydrated and used in processed foods, soups, 72 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: frozen meals, garlic bread, salad, dressing, etcetera. South Korea is 73 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: the third largest garlic producer, and garlic even plays a 74 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: role in the myth of Korea's founding. According to this myth, 75 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: a tiger and a bear prayed to the king, who 76 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: was God's soon to be reincarnated as a human. In response, 77 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: the king gave them mugwart twenty garlic clothes and instructed 78 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: them to find a cave, eat those things, pray, and 79 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: in one hundred days, if they didn't see sunlight, they'd 80 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: get their wish. The tiger didn't have the patience and 81 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: gave up, but the bear made it one hundred days 82 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: and became a woman. This woman asked God for a son, 83 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: and God's son the king answered the call, temporarily turning 84 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: into a man, marrying her, and together they had a son. 85 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: He became the king and Korea's founder. Yeah. As of 86 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: two thousand five, garlic was the top selling herbal dietary 87 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: supplement in the United States, accounting for over twenty seven 88 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: million dollars in sales. Yes, and I have an interesting 89 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: story about this, a personal anecdote. Yes, I had a 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: friend um and she was a nurse working in Africa, 91 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: and she was also I lived with her briefly when 92 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: she got back from Africa. It turns out she got 93 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: worms while she was contracted worms and um. Everyone she 94 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: knew that had been in close contact with her was 95 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: recommended to take garlic supplements because they didn't want unless 96 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: you had like outright symptoms, they didn't want to treat 97 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: you because apparently horrible side effects you can you can 98 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: have horrible side effects that you take to get rid 99 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: of any kind of parasites. So they suggested garlic in 100 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: case any worse symptoms came up. So I had to 101 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: take garlic supplement for a while, and it also I 102 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: had um an aunt who took it for her heart 103 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: to heart health. We will be talking about the veracity 104 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: and potential uses of some of this throughout history and 105 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: modern day. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, there's there's a whole 106 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: whole bunch of it right right, But first we have 107 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: to talk about the Toronto Garlic Festival. Toronto has a 108 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: garlic festival, and I want to go today. There's a 109 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: lot of garlic themed festivals around. One of the biggest 110 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: in the in the US is California's Gilroy Garlic Festival, 111 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: held every summer in Gilroy, a town with some serious 112 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: garlic processing industry. But but seriously, they're all over the place, 113 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Like you want a garlic festival like we can get 114 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: you to a garlic festival. Done and done field trip. Yes. Um. 115 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: These days it is traditionally used as a spice. Around 116 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: the turn of the twenty century, French chef x Marcel 117 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Bolston said, it is not really an exaggeration to say 118 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: that peace and happiness begin geographically where garlic is used 119 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: in cooking. But as with I don't know everything we 120 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: talked about, it was and is first used medicinally, so 121 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: let's start talking about history. Garlic goes back probably about 122 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: six thousand years, from two thousand, six hundred to two 123 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: thousand one b c e. The Sumerians used garlic as 124 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: a healing agent. The current thought is that from Sumeria 125 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: it spread to China, and then from there it's spread 126 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: to Japan and Korea. Some food historians dispute this, though, 127 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: believing China to be the place of origin instead. Whatever 128 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: the case, records of garlic being used as a health 129 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: remedy in ancient China go back to two thousands seven 130 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: b C. Even being prescribed as an antidepressant, which I 131 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: found very interesting. I guess garlet makes me happy. I mean, 132 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 1: aside from the stomach troubles. It's not to say yeah, 133 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: I wish it was um. It was also mainly used 134 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: though for diarrhea and worm infestation, and in combination therapy. 135 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: It was prescribed to treat insomnia, fatigue, headache, and male impotence. 136 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Because it had a heating and stimulating properties, it was 137 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: designated as yang in the context of Yin, Yang Yin, 138 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: and yang, but um. These same properties precluded it from 139 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: Buddhism and also allegedly Japanese cuisine. Yeah. In ancient India, 140 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: garlic was recommended for all sorts of stuff from lack 141 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: of appetite, cough rheumatism, skin disease, weakness, hemorrhoids. The list 142 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: it's on on the Bible mentions garlic. When Moses and 143 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: the Hebrews left Egypt, it's written that they missed quote 144 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: the fish, the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leaks, 145 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: and the onions and the garlic. HM. Ancient Egyptians were big, fat, 146 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, huge, just the biggest fans. They used it 147 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: as currency, and they sculpted garlic bulbs out of clay 148 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: and put them in Kingcut's tomb. And not just his 149 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: tomb garlic, yes, the tonal garlic. They put it in 150 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: a lot of tumbs, some dated back to three thousand seven, 151 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and possibly it was used in the mommification process. Egyptian 152 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: slaves might have been given a daily ration of garlic 153 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: to keep them strong for pyramid building. According to Herodotus, 154 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: inscriptions on the plates of the Egyptian pyramids tell us 155 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: how much their builders used the garlic for this vegetable. 156 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: Then he gives a number, which in modern day terms 157 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: was approximately thirty million dollars. What yes, and our old 158 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: pal Pliny commented in his Works of Garlic twenty three 159 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: medicinal uses that you the Egyptians listed. Oh hey, we've 160 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: been saying his name wrong this whole time. It's apparently 161 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: pronounced plenty um. And thank you to Ben for writing 162 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: it on Facebook about that. See, I've had other listeners 163 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: right in and say please keep saying it that way. Oh, 164 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: it's a fight to about And they all point out 165 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: the beer, right. I bet the beer came up in California. 166 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: He didn't mention that, but well, I'm pretty sure he 167 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: is correct. But there is like a joke to keep 168 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: saying it away because of a beer. I don't know. Okay, yes, 169 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: well plenty or plenty either way either way, he's our 170 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: good friend. He is. He is also on a Bingo card. Yeah. 171 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: The one thousand, five fifty BC evers papyrus out of 172 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Egypt listed thirty two illnesses garlic could heal. Another miscellaneous 173 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: papyrus fragment from twelve Egypt included a test for male 174 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: sterility that called for a woman to place appeeled garlic 175 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: glove in her vagina, keep it there overnight, then see 176 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: if her breath had any garlic smell in the morning. 177 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: If yes, you would have children. Okay, this is this 178 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: is my favorite science extension of the episode, because you 179 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: can totally apply crushed garlic topically to your skin and 180 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: have it wind up triggering your taste, smell, sensory system um. 181 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: The American Chemical Society released a really fun video about 182 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: this a couple of years back. One of the flavor 183 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: compounds in garlic, called allison um, can enter the bloodstream 184 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: through the skin. I'm not sure whether this means that 185 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: your breath would wind up smelling like garlic, though I 186 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: haven't I haven't actually tried it myself. Also, don't don't 187 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: put things in your vagina that are not meant to 188 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: go in your vagina. You can walk away from this 189 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: episode with that. Yeah, that the a CSS video involved 190 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: crushed garla in a bag on your foot. Totally Yeah, 191 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: just well. I I wasn't aware that would have to 192 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: be a thing in the podcast, but it was, and 193 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: we're moving on from it. In Egypt, other nearby ancient 194 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: cultures that interacted with Egypt got the idea to use 195 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: garlic as a remedy. The Talmud called for a meal 196 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: featuring garlic on Fridays and mentioned its potential as an afrodusiac. 197 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: We're racking up that bingo, we are. The ancient Israelis 198 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: used it for hunger, blood pressure, a body heater, and 199 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: a killer of parasites. The Babylonians use garlic as a 200 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: remedy for stomach aches, and the ancient Greeks they were 201 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: garlic groupies too. A Greek market and Athens had an 202 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: entire section devoted to several different types of garlic. Garlic 203 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: bulbs were found in NS's Palace, located on the island 204 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: of Crete and what is sometimes called Europe's first city. 205 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Greek's first Olympic athletes were given garlic to improve their score. 206 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: In an example of one of the first performance enhancers. Yeah, 207 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: and in the same vein Greek soldiers might receive some 208 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: garlic from their commander leaning up to a big battle. 209 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Hypocrates suggested it for all sorts of health things, particularly 210 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: for intestinal parasites and as a diuretic. Later in the 211 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: first century CE, Greek physician Diosperiety is espoused garlics curative 212 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: uses for things ranging from baldness, menstrual cycle regulation, a 213 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: leprosy seasickness, colic relief, and anti parasitic and in combination 214 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: with wine for a snake bite, which earned garlic the 215 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: nickname snake grass. I'm cooler than garlic, but I wouldn't 216 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: know what I was getting snake grass. Yeah. Some writings 217 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: suggest that poor people sleeping outdoors would rub garlic juice 218 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: on themselves to keep away with the snakes, so it 219 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: must have been fairly common uh. At least it was 220 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: fairly commonly thought to help out with that. Also, if 221 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: a rabid dog bit you, you were recommended putting some 222 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: garlic right on the wound. One thing, though, you were 223 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: not allowed into temples after eating the rank roses a 224 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: k a. Garlic. The smell was thought to offend God. 225 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Greek mythology suggested that garlic might be the key to 226 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: discovering immortality, but unrelated to that particular story, Greek travelers 227 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: would leave garlic at crossroads with statues of the dark 228 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: Greek goddess Hykat for protection and to confuse any demonic followers, 229 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: in a ritual called Hykat supper. Once you put down 230 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: your garlic offering, you did not look back, because you'd 231 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: see her in her hellhounds and it'd scar you for life. 232 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: Oh that very serious, it was. And okay, yeah, also 233 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: very serious. The first bridal bouquets and Greece had garlic 234 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: and bride's work crowns of garlic bulbs to keep evil 235 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: spirits away. And garlic is still a part of some 236 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: wedding traditions to this day, whether a groomsman shows it 237 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: in his jacket, puts it in his buttonhole for luck 238 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: and to try to keep people away. Just kind of 239 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: a tradition that's hung around, you know. Yeah. Yeah, but 240 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: not everyone in the ancient world was a fan of garlic. No, 241 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: And uh, the Romans and I feel like they have 242 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: come out against a lot of things in our episodes 243 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: against Butter. It seems a little arbitrary to me personally, 244 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: but well, they begrudgingly admitted it had some useful medicinal properties. 245 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Might make you stronger, it might increase your endurance. But 246 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: to them that breath man not worth it. No, they 247 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get past it, and they certainly wouldn't willingly put 248 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: it in their food. In fact, the Epiquios, which was 249 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: this Roman collection of recipes, only referenced garlet twice, and 250 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: both in small amounts, and both times to settle a 251 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: sick stomach. A farming handbook out of Rome claimed if 252 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: garlic in advance, one will be immune to pest and 253 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: other noxic noxious creatures. So you know, medicinal use. But 254 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: it was viewed as a food for peasants or soldiers 255 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: and sailors for a forementioned strengthened stamina. Despite the smell, 256 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: it was still seen as an aphrodisiac. I do not 257 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: understand that um and was allegedly used to that end 258 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: at Roman orages. M The nobility in India held similar opinions. 259 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: They thought garlic was a foul foreign food. No garlic 260 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: was allowed at ceremonies, and the first time it appeared 261 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: in Sanskrit writings was around three as a treatment for 262 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: heart disease or thritis, to weakness, to jestive issues and 263 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: worm infestations. Chakra wrote a bit but for its unpleasant odor, 264 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: garlic would be costlier than gold. Since it was seen 265 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: as an aphrodisiac, Widows and monks and young people were 266 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: advised to avoid it. Yeah, I never really thought about 267 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: the garlic danger, all right. A bunch of writers mentioned 268 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: garlic in the first centuries of the New millennium. Celsus 269 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: used it for tuberculosystem fever, garlin for colic and digestive ailments. 270 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: He called it the Rustics theoriac in the most popular 271 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: folk remedy, and Columel claimed it was being used for 272 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: say it with me now and aphrodisiac wow. The Assyrians 273 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: used garlic to bring down a fever, to relieve constipation 274 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: and muscle inflammation, and to rid yourself of intestinal parasites. 275 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: The Slavic people used it for snake bites and also 276 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: spider bites, lice, and ulcers around seventh centuries, which brings 277 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: us to the Middle Ages, And it also brings us 278 00:17:52,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: to a word our sponsor, and we're back, thank you sponsor. Okay, 279 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: So garlic sees as a remedy only went up in 280 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: the Middle Ages. Monks grew it at monasteries so they 281 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: got over the bad breath, I guess, and Arabic physicians 282 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: persbe prescribed garlic quite a bit too. The medical school 283 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: at Solerno put garlic in the class of a hot food, 284 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: meant to be eaten in the winter months to help 285 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: out your heart and your lungs. They even had a 286 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: poem about it, poetry. Since garlic hath powers to save 287 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: you from death, bear with it. Though it makes unsavory 288 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: breath and scorned, not garlic like some may think, it 289 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: only makes men wink and drink and stink lovely. So 290 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: many other physicians mentioned it so many. It was used 291 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: during the Black Plague, and it was thought to keep 292 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: diseased mosquitoes away. Around this time too, stories of gar 293 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: lexibility to ward off a whole slew of evil things 294 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: started popping up. It could keep away of vampires. More 295 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: on that in a minute. Nymphs known to harrass engaged 296 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: in pregnant women, and a garlic nest necklace provided protection 297 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: against the evil eye. Different cultures used it to keep 298 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: demonic forces at bay, to deter witches, and sorcerers, and 299 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: thanks to garlics resemblance to a human head in India's 300 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: I still don't see it. I'm okay with it anyway, huh. 301 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: In India, some thought that demons wanted garlic just as 302 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: badly as human blood. In Buddhist bloor, garlic comes from 303 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: the blood of a demonic spirit slain at the hands 304 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: of Vishnu, whereas in Islamic myth garlic comes to his 305 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: courtesy of Satan's left foot. At one time, in England 306 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: and India, garlic may have been used as part of 307 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: an exorcism. All these things might explain why people so 308 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: readily accepted garlics used as a medicine, since at the 309 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: time a lot of illnesses were thought to be caused 310 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: by evil spirits and the like. In Korea, people used 311 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: to eat garlic to keep away tigers, and in some 312 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: parts of Africa they did the same for crocodiles. We 313 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: here at food Stuff do not recommend either of these 314 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: as your main strategy. Crocodile or tiger of Asian no 315 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: a supplement, sure, but yes not your main Not You're 316 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: not your main's right. Despite Charlemagne mentioning garlic in seven, 317 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: being of Italian origin. Food historians think garlic was most 318 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: likely introduced to Western Europe by soldiers returning from the Crusades. 319 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: While it was widely accepted as a curative, still not 320 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: so much as a food. No, the smell of it 321 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: was associated with poverty. However, it did occasionally pop up 322 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: on wealthy European tables and sauces, particularly one that I'm 323 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: pretty sure inspired IOLDI um, but only in small amounts still, 324 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: and one key Alfonso of Castille, forbade any night who 325 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: had consumed garlic or onions from speaking to other courtiers 326 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: and from the court itself for four weeks. After four weeks, 327 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: I suppose it would have been really difficult to get 328 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: rid of bad breath back then. That's actually we should 329 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: return to that in a future episode. Absolutely, oh yes, okay, alright, 330 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: perfect that it was probably grown in the wild before this. 331 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: By eight, garlic made its way from the Mediterranean Sea 332 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: to Britain, where it was once again prescribed to fight 333 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: off intestinal parasites, animal bites, stomach ailments, and the plague, 334 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: along with Dan Dreff skin diseases. Too fake and drop sea. 335 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: Unless we not forget about imperialism. Cortez wrote in sixteen 336 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: or four of the indigenous Peruvians, they esteemed garlic above 337 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: all the roots of Europe and North America. Tribes like 338 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: the Choctaw were already growing garlic when the Europeans showed up, 339 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: they to use it in their tea. Oh and just 340 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: to fill out that bingo card Columbus. Yes, that Columbus 341 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: had one basket of garlic on his cargo, manifest Gradually, 342 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: well off French and Italians start to add garlic to 343 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: their cuisine. Some things I came across suggested that in 344 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: the late sixteenth century, King Henry the Fourth was baptized 345 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: in garlic water to grant him protection from both disease 346 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: and evil spirits. Okay, I read another fun, maybe not 347 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: true thing, that a thousand folks at Marseilles use garlic 348 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: against the spread of an epidemic plague. I supposedly French 349 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: grave diggers drank wine with crushed garlic, added with the 350 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: idea that it would ward off the plague and corpses. 351 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: In this time we're sometimes embalmed with it, or they 352 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: put garlic clubs in their mouths, noses and ears. Not 353 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: the corpses but you know people doing the embalming to 354 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: keep evil spirits, vampires in the like away in a mirror. 355 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: Ica Milia Simmons, frequently mentioned on this podcast seventeen cookbook 356 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: American Cookery, have this to say about the subject. Garlics, 357 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: though used by the French, are better adapted to the 358 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: uses of medicine than cookery, so we weren't on board yet. 359 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of the French, Alexander Duma wrote in the eighteen hundreds, 360 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: provincial cooking is based on garlic. The air and Provence 361 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: is impregnated with the aroma of garlic, which makes it 362 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: very helpful to breathe, and I read a lot of 363 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: places that it was very It was regional, regionally popular 364 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: in France and Italy, but not but not widespread. Louis 365 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Pastor noted that garlic was an extremely effective bacteria killer 366 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: in eighteen fifty eight. John Guns eight seventy eight Homebook 367 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: of Health prescribed garlic for infections, as a diuretic for asthma, 368 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: and just generally for good health. And as we move 369 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: into the twentieth century, we see garlic used to treat typhoid, fever, cholera, 370 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: and diphtheria. In nineteen eighteen Beirut. That same year, in 371 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: France it was used to treat Spanish fever, and during 372 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventeen eighteen flu upidemic in the US, people 373 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: going out would wear garlic necklaces. Wow, I can't imagine 374 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: that happening today. British citizens were tasked with supplying as 375 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: much garlic as they could as an antiseptic for soldiers 376 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: during World War One. And as for that Russian penicillin thing, 377 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: Russian physicians had a long history of prescribing garlic for 378 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: respiratory issues, especially in children, but also as sort of 379 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: a prep for pilots, even into World War Two when 380 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: penicillin had been invented, hence Russian penicillin. Yeah. Also, garlic 381 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: vodka apparently was used for the flu. I love that 382 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: so many people's like concept of medicine is like, put 383 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: this thing that we think will help into this alcohol 384 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: that we're drinking. Yep, extra healthy. Okay, So how did 385 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: it become as common as salt, at least in the 386 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: u US for for food for seasoning? Right? Yeah, how 387 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: how did we get over this? It's just a medicine concept. Remember, 388 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't super popular and in the early twentieth century. 389 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: In the U S. It was viewed as cheap an 390 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: ingredient used by poor immigrants. I believe we mentioned in 391 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: a previous episode Italian immigrants were deresive Philly called garlic lovers. 392 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: This even comes up in It's a Wonderful Life, Yeah evil, 393 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Mr Potter calls the Italian immigrants George Bailey gives loans 394 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: to George Bailey's garlic Eaters. Gone over my head. I 395 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: seen that movie once, so I don't know. I never 396 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: picked up on it. It was also used to discriminate, 397 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: discriminate against Jewish people and Koreans. Seriously, it's upsetting. Um. 398 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: There was this whole concept of Jewish stink and sweet 399 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: smelling Christians. If a Jewish person converted and was baptized, 400 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: they could get rid of their inherent bad smell. And yeah, 401 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: this concept was so entrenched that the Nazis issued garl 402 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: bold buttons you could wear to show the world just 403 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: how anti Semitic you were. Wow, it is horrible, yeah, yeah, 404 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: but but it did. Those those negative perceptions did start changing. 405 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: They did towards the end of the war actually, and 406 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: this changed um. Thanks to food writer James Beard. He 407 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: wrote of a garlic chicken recipe calling for not one, 408 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: not two, not three, but forty forty cloves of garlic. 409 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: He prescribed garlic as a faithful friend for almost any 410 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: type of seasoning, used with discretion. One theory about about 411 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: how garlic became a little bit more popular and widespread 412 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: in the US is that as soldiers were coming back 413 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: from wars overseas World War one and two, specifically through 414 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: the first half of the century, they were bringing with 415 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: them a taste for garlic. Dozens of recipes called for garlic, 416 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: and Clayborne's nineteen sixties New York Times cookbook in the 417 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: sixteas and seventies, Julia Child advised reviewers to no longer 418 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: look at garlic as suspiciously foreign, probably subversive, and certainly 419 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: very lower class um. From the nineties through today, American 420 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: garlic consumption has more than quadrupled, a surge larger than 421 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: for any other vegetable during this time. Theories for why 422 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: this is include the rising popularity of foods and restaurants 423 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: based on other cultures, good press about the potential health 424 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: benefits of garlic, and demand for those garlic dietary supplements. 425 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: Garlic production has been down in recent years, though not 426 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: due to lack of demand, but rather due to changing 427 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: weather patterns. As hardy as garlic is, mild winters prevent 428 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: bulbs from developing as robustly as normal, and this likely 429 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: applies to every type of produce that we talk about, y'all. 430 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: But but like, yes, climate change may affect garlic production 431 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: going forward, making it more rare and expensive. Yeah. Well 432 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: that's an upbeat note to end this history slash modern 433 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: day segment. Yeah, but it does segue nicely into science science. Yes, 434 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: but first quick break for word from our sponsor, and 435 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: we're back, Thank you sponsor. So I'm going to start 436 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: the science section here with a cooking tip. Um. We 437 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that one of the flavor compounds that makes garlic, 438 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: you know, garliccky, is called allison. And this compound is 439 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: not found and whole cloves of garlic. It's made by 440 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: a chemical reaction when the tissue of the clove is 441 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: disrupted by being crushed or cut. When that happens, an 442 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: enzyme called alan as acts on this amino acid called 443 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: alan and converts it to allison. So if you want 444 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: a strong, a stronger garlic flavor, crusher, chop it, and 445 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: then let it kind of sit and hang out for 446 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: up to fifteen minutes before you use it, thus allowing 447 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: this enzyme to do its work. And I'm glad you 448 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: mentioned at this, because a lot of times that's a 449 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: stepf I'll dish your gard oh like now that I 450 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: know it might flavor. Yeah. Also, the smaller and more 451 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: disrupted that you make your garlic via chopping and crushing, 452 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: the more intense the flavor will be. The more uh, 453 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: those compounds will get to interact with each other and 454 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: do the thing. Uh. It might seem unintuitive, yes, but 455 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: sliced or whole clothes will impart a more mild flavor 456 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: to a dish. Also, temperatures above a hundred and forty 457 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit that's about sixty degrees celsius will inactivate that 458 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: enzyme alan ace. So yes, cooking garlic, cooked garlic, what 459 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: will be more mild than raw garlic something that we 460 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: all probably knew but yes mentioned why yeah, and oh 461 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: hey speak ging of this compound, Allison. Some researchers think 462 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: it's also the reason why garlic can have health benefits 463 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: as an antioxidant. When alison breaks down during digestion. A 464 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: couple of things that are produced are are sulfuric compounds, 465 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: which can stabilize the free radicals that some researchers think 466 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: can cause damage to your cells and thus contribute to 467 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: conditions like cancer and heart disease and and free free radicals. 468 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: Free free radical uh sidebar yeah for radicals. UM is 469 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the fancy name for atoms or molecules in your body 470 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: that react easily with other atoms or molecules because they 471 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: have at least one unpaired electron. Think of it. Think 472 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: of it like you're at a party, okay, and some 473 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: people are walking around with a drink in one hand 474 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: and a plate of ordinars in the other, but some 475 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: people are only carrying a plate. The people carrying just 476 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: a plate can more easily shake hands with or like 477 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: awkwardly side hug someone that they bump into. They are 478 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: the free radicals in this scenario. Antioxidants are technically their 479 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: molecules that can prevent free radicals from being created in 480 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: the first place by preventing oxidation. Antioxidants, yes, but the 481 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: word is sometimes also applied to molecules that stabilize free radicals. 482 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: In this scenario, it's that latter thing. The the sulfur 483 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: compounds are like a host at the party who comes 484 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: by with a tray of drinks hands one to the 485 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: person holding just a plate, and then it becomes harder 486 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: for the partygoer to interact or to react. In chemistry terms, 487 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start calling people at parties free radicals. He's 488 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: being such a free radical now. However, garlics exact usefulness 489 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: as a medicine is still debated, and basically more research 490 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: needs to be done to to see exactly how it 491 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: has these properties that it's been used for for you know, 492 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of years, and and how we can 493 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: best harness that harness the power of garlic harness anyway, Yeah, 494 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: so some some research has indicated that incorporating garlic in 495 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: your diet may help prevent certain types of cancer, like 496 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: colon and stomach cancers. Dietary supplements of garlic, by the way, 497 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: have not been shown to have the same effect. Um 498 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Garlic does act as an anticoagulant in your blood, which 499 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: can help prevent plaque build up in your arteries and 500 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: also help prevent blood clots of both of which can 501 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: lead to heart attack. And stroke, but its levels of 502 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: effectiveness are uncertain. M there's as of yet weak evidence 503 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: about whether it helps lower high blood pressure. It might 504 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: be it might be more of a preventative thing than 505 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: like a fixed an issue thing. Um. Again, eating garlic 506 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: in your diet may be helpful, but talk to a 507 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: doctor before attempting to fix anything, especially with a garlic supplement. Um. Definitely, 508 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: also don't take garlic supplements if you're on another prescription 509 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: blood thinner or if you've just had surgery, because since 510 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: it can act as an anti coagulant. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 511 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: bleeding can happen bad times. Um. Garlic supplements can also 512 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: interfere with a few medications, so yeah, always always check 513 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: with a medical professional before using dietary supplements. There's some 514 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: conflicting evidence about whether garlic helps lower bad L d 515 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: L cholesterol levels. Okay, fun conflicting yeah. Um. There have 516 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: been preliminary studies into whether garlic supplements have antibiotic properties 517 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: that can help prevent or fight the common cold. They 518 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: have seemed to work better than placebo, but more studies 519 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: need to be done, and preliminary studies indicate that garlic 520 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: gel may have antifungal properties when applied topically to help 521 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: treating ringworm, athletes, foot, and jock itch. Garlic does not, however, 522 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: seem to help with another type of fungal infection, yeast infections. 523 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: And now I get to say for the second time 524 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: in one episode that you should not put things in 525 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: your vagina that were not meant to go into your vagina. 526 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: Self cleaning, oven eating, eating garlic or supplements doesn't seem 527 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: to help either though. If if you if you have 528 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: a yeast infection that you can't get rid of, see 529 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: a doctor. Don't don't try all the things that the 530 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: Internet tells you to try, just really really talk to 531 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: a doctor. There there are a few non medicinal or 532 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: non traditional medicine ways of trying to knock out yeast infections. 533 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: So if that's the thing that you're looking for, a 534 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: doctor can help you with that as well. Anyway, Okay, 535 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: one more, one more word about supplements. Okay. There are 536 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: four basic ways that garlic can be processed into supplements, 537 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: and those methods, as you would imagine, vastly influence what 538 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff you'll get out of the supplement. And like, 539 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: remember that one of the most promising compounds in garlic 540 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: only happens when you crush garlic cell walls to let 541 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: a reaction happen and then begin to digest the resulting compound. 542 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: All right, So if you're going to do for a supplement, 543 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: do some research. What I read seems to indicate that 544 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: garlic oil masserrate capsules are the way to go. But again, 545 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: talk to your doctor. There can be adverse effects, way 546 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: worse than just getting a little bit stinkier. Yeah, and 547 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 1: speaking of how do you get rid of that garlic breath? 548 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I and another addition of annie is terribul 549 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: in relationships. I almost broke up with someone because I 550 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: was too embarrassed to tell him that I didn't want 551 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: to kiss because I just had hummus. Garlic was really overpowering. 552 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: But you know, eventually I had to admit it, and 553 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: he was like, why didn't you just say that? Anyway, Um, 554 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: the internet tells me that to get rid of garlic breath, 555 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: apples lemon juice are green too, not altogether, although I 556 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: guess you could go that route, but you know, I 557 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a serious issue. There's more to 558 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: be found online, So let's end this episode with why 559 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: we're all really here? Yeah? Yeah, vampires the food stuff 560 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: vampire sidebar. I am so excited. Oh oh yes you 561 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: should be. Is there any truth to this whole garlic 562 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: keeping away vampires business? And if you're not sure what 563 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about in popular culture, Vamparalore from Mexico, the Philippines, Germany, Hungry, Austria, Portugal, Armenia. 564 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's more right there right in 565 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: if you've got some. They are all repelled by garlic. 566 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: All these types of vampire, all these vampires from all 567 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: over the place, and these are like independently occurring mythos, 568 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy. I love it. Yeah. Going back to 569 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: some of the first vampire stories out of medieval Europe, 570 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: vampires have detested garlic. One book I read claimed that 571 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: as recently as the nineteen seventies, a church in Romania 572 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: handed out garlic for eating to eat out any potential vampires. 573 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: The reason for this is thought to be possibly based 574 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: on garlic allergies or it's antibiotic and anti fungal properties 575 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: that we have just detailed have been there throughout history. Um. 576 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: I also read that in Romania they celebrate St. Andrew's 577 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: Day on November twenty nine, which also goes by the 578 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: Night of the Vampire. Vampires another undead are thought to 579 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: gather near crossroads and abandoned buildings on this day, So 580 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: people eat a lot of garlic. They perhaps place cloves 581 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: of garlic around windows and doors, or maybe they make 582 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: a garlic paste and spread it on the door in 583 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: a shape of a crucifix. Some young people celebrate by 584 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: guarding the garlic. Okay, yeah, Each young woman is tasked 585 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: with ringing three clothes of garlic to an agreed upon spot. 586 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: All of these are gathered in a pot, and this 587 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: pot is watched over by candle light by the house's 588 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: oldest female occupant all night. Once the sun comes up, 589 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: the pot is taken outside and is the centerpiece for 590 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: a dance. Then the garlic is split up and used 591 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: as sacred symbol to protect against illness or spells. Listeners, 592 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: please right in if you've seen this or experience it, 593 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: or if there's any truth to it. Yeah, that's that's amazing. 594 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well, anyway, we are in like friends 595 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: because there has been research into the very question of 596 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: garlic's anti vampire properties. Wait what Yeah, in a group 597 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: of intrepid scientists lacking actual vampires, got the idea to 598 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: use blood sucking leeches to test this out. The leeches 599 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: were given the option of a garlic smeared hand or 600 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: a clean, non garlic smeared hand, and and two out 601 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: of three of the cases the garlic hand was the 602 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: preferred choice. But wait, it was more. While the leeches 603 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: may preferred the garlic hand, when they went that route, 604 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: they only attached for fourteen point nine seconds, as opposed 605 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: to the forty four point nine seconds they hung on 606 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: to the other hand without the garlic. Oh weird. Interesting. 607 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: The study concludes vampires are feared everywhere, but the Balkan 608 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: region has been especially haunted. This study indicates that garlic 609 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: possibly attracts vampires. Therefore, to avoid a Balkan like development 610 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: in Norway, restrictions on the use of garlic should be 611 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: considered food for thought. Garlic vampire research. It was so 612 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: fun and there was a lot of it. I convinced it. 613 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're like, really, but I did. There's 614 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot of it out there. Oh. I adored humans, 615 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: and and especially scientists humans who do research like that. 616 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: That's wonderful. Yeah, it was. It was very entertaining. That 617 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: is our garlic episode. Yeah it was. It certainly was 618 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: um and it brings us to our listener male. The 619 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: first one is kind of kind of related to vampires. 620 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: It's from Maja, who is a registered dietitian. As she 621 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: wrote in about our fan diet episode. I get questions 622 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: about these on almost daily basis. But the most interesting 623 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: one you haven't mentioned, I got from my mom when 624 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: she asked me about the Moon diet. Yes, the Moon 625 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: diet one's intake would be based on the cycles of 626 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: the moon, with the idea that the gravitational pool from 627 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: the Moon will have an effect on the water and 628 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 1: our pool toxins from your body, among other beliefs. Hmm, 629 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: someone needs to go back to physics class to learn 630 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: that gravitation doesn't work that way and that your body 631 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: already has organs that allow for detoxication. Needed to say, 632 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: I cringe when I read about it and thought you 633 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: might too. I did. I literally, Yes, it was a 634 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: deep cringe. Emily wrote in about our yogurt episode to begin, 635 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: I was incredibly giddy when I heard you guys mention 636 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: Bulgaria's part in yogurt My husband is Bulgarian, and many 637 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: people do not realize that yogurt is not all about Greece. 638 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: Yogurt is a huge part of Bulgarian culture. I had 639 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: to be a quick study under his mother to learn 640 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: all of the ins and outs of yogurt making. So 641 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: many Bulgarian dishes and drinks are centered around yogurt. They 642 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: use it in a similar way that Americans would use 643 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: sour cream. One of the things I wanted to point out, though, 644 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: is that Bulgarian yogurt tastes nothing like American or Greek yogurts. 645 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: Most of the yogurts that we find at our grocery 646 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: stores are not made with the same cultures. She listed 647 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: a couple, but oh, that's a lot of Latin Okay. 648 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: In order to be considered Bulgarian yogurt, it must have 649 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: this particular bacteria combination. What I'm trying to say is 650 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: Bulgarian yogurt is this special gem that very few Americans 651 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: ever experienced. When my husband's family came to America, they 652 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: were horrified at the sugary, fruity gunk that was sold 653 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: as yogurt. Luckily, my mother in law came to the 654 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: rescue by teaching us how to make yogurt from the 655 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: yogurt that we bought. Now we always have a gallon 656 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: of Bulgarian yogurt in the fridge, and I can make 657 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: all of his favorite dishes, soups, drinks, and sides. Making 658 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: your own yogurt sounds complicated, but it is worth it. 659 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: My best advice is to keep trying. I had a 660 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: few batches turn out strange, lumpy, cheesy, etcetera. But those 661 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: were great opportunities to research what went wrong and perfect 662 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: my process. I look forward to hearing more podcasts and 663 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: learning new things from you too. I'm going to include 664 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: a few Bulgarian recipes below, and I highly recommend that 665 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: you try Bulgarian yogurt. And she totally did Yeah, and 666 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: I really want to try it. Yes, I wonder how 667 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: it can be imported. I need to work this out. 668 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: She said she found some in uh Tescaloosa, Alabama, which 669 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: I believe is near where she lives, but it was 670 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: really expensive, prohibitively expensive. So she included the recipes. Um, 671 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: and if we can remember and we'll post him and 672 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: you can try him. Yeah. Yeah, So thanks to both 673 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: of them, Yes for writing in YouTube can write us. 674 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: Our email is food stuff at work dot com. We're 675 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: also on social media. You can find us on Facebook 676 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: and Twitter at food Stuff. Hs W stands for how 677 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. We're also on Instagram at food Stuff. Thank 678 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: you all so much for listening. Thank you to our 679 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: super producer Dylan Fagin, who I would be looking at 680 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: if he were in the room with us, but he's 681 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: still out recording another podcast, Dylan, How could you? Dylan? 682 00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: Are you a villain? Oh No, he's lovely. He is. 683 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: He's very lovely anyway. Yes, thanks, thanks to all y'all. 684 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: We hope that lots more good things are coming your way.