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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman and we're

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Speaker 1: bringing you one of our favorite segments from the show

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Speaker 1: talking about one of our favorite dudes in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: So this is what we do, man, We just break

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Speaker 2: down a dude and determine you know that, we talk

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Speaker 2: about what type of player he was, and today that

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Speaker 2: you're our guests, you know, and we're thankful for it.

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Speaker 2: You picked who we're going to be talking about, and

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Speaker 2: we do an AI synopsis about the guy. So I'm

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Speaker 2: going to hit it off with the AI synopsis. Here

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Speaker 2: we go. Standing at six feet and weighing two hundred

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Speaker 2: and nine pounds, this hard hitting safety was selected sixty

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Speaker 2: first overall in the second round of the nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: six NFL Draft from Jacksonville, Florida. He started three seasons

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Speaker 2: at Clemson University. Over a dominant sixteen season NFL career,

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Speaker 2: he was a first team All Pro selection four times,

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Speaker 2: and as a member of the twenty eighteen Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Class Awesome. He is the only player

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Speaker 2: in NFL history to record a sack, interception, fumble recovery,

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Speaker 2: and touchdown reception and a single game ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: Let's get on Brian Dowcans Bryan Dawkins.

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Speaker 1: What is the.

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Speaker 2: First thing that you think of when you hear of

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Speaker 2: the name Brian Dawkins And why did you pick Brian Dawkins?

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Speaker 3: Patrick chunk football player, football player. He can cover, he

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Speaker 3: can tackle, he's stuff. He can play a linebacker, he

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Speaker 3: can play safety, he can play in the slot. He

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Speaker 3: can But at the same time, he's very reserved and peaceful.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't like to talk to him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: very much.

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Speaker 1: Like you fight chung. But he was like, pick you

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Speaker 1: up after he whipped your ass.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's pretty much what I'm with him.

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Speaker 3: So pretty much the same size, almost the same pick,

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Speaker 3: just kind of everything. You know, like he's just he

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Speaker 3: can blitz, he can tackle, he can hit lineman and

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Speaker 3: put him down, put put tight ends down, and you know,

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Speaker 3: just a very reserved person that can tap him too.

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Speaker 3: His wolverine. And you know, that's that's why I kind

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Speaker 3: of describe myself like him, just kind of a just

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Speaker 3: football player. I wasn't the fastest, the quickest or anything.

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Speaker 3: It's just I just laid football. I just played hard.

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Speaker 3: You told me, I can't do this shit. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: show you I can do this shit. And if I

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Speaker 3: can't do it, at least I'm gonna show you that

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Speaker 3: I can. There's no giving up. So I didn't. There's

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Speaker 3: no giving up with Brian Dawkins.

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Speaker 1: You ever meet him.

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Speaker 3: I met him one time. I was on a visit

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Speaker 3: in Denver and he was at the table, he was

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Speaker 3: eating his lunch, and I sat there. I talked to

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Speaker 3: him and we talked for a little bit, and he

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Speaker 3: was the same thing I'm saying, very calm, very reserved

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Speaker 3: and very like educated intellectual and talking to you about

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Speaker 3: how you know, how football should be in outside of

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Speaker 3: the field. But then sometimes I watch football, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this guy is trying to kill people, Like who is

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Speaker 3: this person? Like you said, I'm sleeping and I just

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Speaker 3: wake up and then I just want to go kill somebody.

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Speaker 1: Got that hit sta yeah yeah, so yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why I would describe myself like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, just gotta Yeah, he had a good game,

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Speaker 3: like that's what boosting my career is. At one game

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Speaker 3: in Miami, same thing that happened to him. What you

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Speaker 3: explain that, Oh, when I had the two block field goals,

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Speaker 3: a block, field goal, block punt, pick six in one

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Speaker 3: game and I don't know how many chocolate.

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Speaker 1: Against Miami on the road, on the road.

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Speaker 2: And that was my rookie year. And I remember that

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Speaker 2: was your rookie ye. And I remember as well Coach

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Speaker 2: Balichick call us all out and why he took us

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Speaker 2: and why everyone else skipped on us. You remember that, No, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was a team meeting right before he was like,

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Speaker 2: I remember he went by. I remember coming to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't want you.

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Speaker 2: You had a visit to Miami. They passed on you.

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Speaker 1: We grabbed you.

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Speaker 2: I wanted you here. And he went on about every

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Speaker 2: single starter on our team and explained why he wanted them,

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Speaker 2: why he wanted you, why, but why you're here and

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Speaker 2: why everyone else passed on you, and.

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Speaker 1: Like it made you feel good. I remember that.

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Speaker 2: It was right before that game.

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Speaker 3: I just he's done that multiple times.

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Speaker 2: He's done a few.

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Speaker 1: And when Miami was pretty good, that's when they had

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Speaker 1: the Ronnie Brown year two years before they were like

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Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, Ye, Brandon Marshall. They were a good football team.

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Speaker 1: That slot receiver had the dreads best. Yep, they had

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Speaker 1: a good team that year. Did you watch a lot

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Speaker 1: of Brian Dawkins highlights growing up?

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Speaker 3: I did? Actually, yeah, yeah I did. That's the one

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Speaker 3: person I did. And so my mom always always just

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Speaker 3: messing with me because her last name is George, Sophia George.

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Speaker 3: So when I was growing up, my favorite player was

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Speaker 3: Eddie George on the Oilers, and she was always telling

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Speaker 3: family is just a total clown, total smart as. So

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Speaker 3: the whole time, like this is my her player players,

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Speaker 3: Like that's not your uncle, bro, I'm like what I mean,

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Speaker 3: watching this man forever? Right, So my whole time growing

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Speaker 3: up I was an Oiler fan. Yeah, I was an

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Speaker 3: Oiler fan Eddie George fan, and then switched to Brian

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Speaker 3: Dawkins just just the way he carries himself and like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I just I just liked him. I liked

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Speaker 3: him a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the hardest hitters. I got lit up

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine when we went up and

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Speaker 1: played Denver. Remember that, mm hm, he's he's one of

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Speaker 1: He hit me so hard I saw like a star

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Speaker 1: for two weeks and like he like was so polite

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Speaker 1: about it too. When he hit me, like he lifted

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Speaker 1: me up. Like it's kind of like I was saying

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Speaker 1: with you, like he asked if I was all right.

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Speaker 1: He's like you need to play a young fellow or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Like he was just like, it's like

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Speaker 1: you said in between, like these some of these guys

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Speaker 1: like the Brian Dawkins, the Troy Paulamalus, who don't do

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Speaker 1: prayers every before every play. When they are in play,

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Speaker 1: they're not like prayer type guys. They're like just straight

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Speaker 1: one of them kill you good guys, but also pray

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Speaker 1: that you don't get hurt when they hit you hard.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that was one of the scariest guys to

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Speaker 2: go versus. And like it was kind of like a

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Speaker 2: trick that they would use. It was a tactic because

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Speaker 2: they would absolutely love you and they'd be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, because usually when you

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Speaker 2: get leveled like that, you freaking get all amped up

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Speaker 2: then be in the drummon and starts following because you

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Speaker 2: that bastard back. But he gets up and he comes

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Speaker 2: to you, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, and you

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Speaker 2: walk away you're like, oh my gosh, she was so sorry.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hit him back.

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Speaker 3: You're so right, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: It was it was an accident again, and I'm like

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Speaker 2: this fine. I wish you just talked ship to me,

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Speaker 2: like so I can go after him and get pissed off.

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Speaker 3: But man, bro, when you're talking about crackbox, yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: sometimes receivers come in. I'll grab him, and you know,

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Speaker 3: receivers don't like get rolled up. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: see anybody hurt, so I'll grab him. I'll pull him

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Speaker 3: towards him. Hey watchy, watch your leg because the play's

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Speaker 3: gonna be over. Yeah, the old thanks man, And the

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Speaker 3: next time I'm like, just a bomb eat this bro,

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Speaker 3: And that was like, hey, we're just friends. The last

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Speaker 3: play like, no, we're not friends anymore. I just don't

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Speaker 3: want you to get hurt and called a day, So

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Speaker 3: you're right, bro. Total mind fuck is.

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Speaker 1: Where does he get his nicknamed weapon X it's Wolverine,

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Speaker 1: I think right, it was Wolverine. Yeah, he has Wolverine's

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Speaker 1: action figures. That's what it is. Is that where's that

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Speaker 1: rank them on cool ass nicknames? That's up there? That's

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Speaker 1: it weapon X, weapon X. That might be the best

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Speaker 1: one that's had separate WEAPONX locker. Wait, name plate and all.

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Speaker 1: When I hit the field, I'm not Brian Dawkins. I'm

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Speaker 1: weapon X, inscribed on his twenty seventeen Super Bowl ring

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Speaker 1: instead of his name. This guy bro his The weapon

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Speaker 1: X locker was to the right of his locker. I

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Speaker 1: remember right here, and h had his own lock bipolar,

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Speaker 1: two different personalities checkel and hydrate.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's lethal.

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Speaker 2: Well that is so we're talking about b D. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's plenty of other hard hitting safeties in the game.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's get your ranking of the top. You know,

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Speaker 2: three or five safeties that you would say are the

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Speaker 2: hardest hitters in the rush game mount rushmore of hardest

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Speaker 2: hitting safety. We're not talking about the best players. We're

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Speaker 2: just talking about Well wide receiver lines up out wide

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna run a shitty route because he knows

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to run towards that safety and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't want the ball because he's gonna get absolutely smacked.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with one right out the beginning because

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Speaker 2: he went to the University of Arizona.

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Speaker 3: I know him.

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Speaker 2: Well, Chuck Cecil just an absolute menace out on the field.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't know Chuck Cecil. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: one of the hardest hitting safeties in the game. They

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Speaker 2: started making the rules change because of him. Real, Yeah

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Speaker 2: he was, he was, he was back there, he was.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Zach years that he played, but I

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Speaker 2: still he's coaches at the University of Arizona now and

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Speaker 2: I meet him.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I tap him up and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, bro, what what the fuck? Dude? Like, guy is

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Speaker 2: a brick wall. Yeah, he's hitting brick wall. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I would never want to get hit by you. And

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Speaker 2: now I understand. I understood why those players all got

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Speaker 2: knocked out and whenever whenever he left him. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: probably missed plenty of times because you're just running full speed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, when once he hits you, that game over.

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Speaker 1: So Who's who's your mount?

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Speaker 3: That dude Landry they used to play big Dude from

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Speaker 3: Washington number thirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one to knock you out the Jets, Yes, so,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, you know he'll he'll let you have it.

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Speaker 2: Dude. His arms are bigger than my thighs. Yes, is

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Speaker 2: a savage bro. He got popped a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if.

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Speaker 2: You know what you mean. He got a couple of

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Speaker 2: eight games. But hey, you freaking he.

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Speaker 1: Would yeah he did.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I know you don't so damn.

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Speaker 3: I name one you don't like that Land knocked you out.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: No, you're respector's a guy that you respector TJ is

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Speaker 3: a hard hitter too, and that kind of hurts you

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Speaker 3: say that fucked me up. I know it sucked me

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Speaker 3: up to Yeah, fucked me up.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 3: War War, He'll miss TJ.

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Speaker 1: Ward.

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Speaker 2: The common denominator about all these safeties always that they

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Speaker 2: were so fearless they didn't give all about their body.

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Speaker 2: You had to be like that.

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Speaker 1: Name, Morton Mormon.

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Speaker 2: I forgot Brian Mormon was on the silent right Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, keep it going, isn't it? Dovin mccordy. They

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Speaker 3: You know what, you know what you want to say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta we gotta get some highlights of Ronnie

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Speaker 2: Take lest we'll take old Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Thomas canna hit you cancer could have Oh ship you

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Speaker 3: know what, cam Ca Cancellor, I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that man knocked me out to Yeah

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Speaker 2: You put a less out there that Julie and I

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Speaker 2: Oh that was your whole entire.

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Speaker 1: So let's get back to Brian Dawkins first and onlyes.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the first and only to be in

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Speaker 1: Charles only players with thirty five interceptions, thirty five force fumbles.

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Speaker 1: This guy's elite, He's got elite stats. Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: That is a fucking class.

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Speaker 2: That's a class, a Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: class right there, big time. All five of those names

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Speaker 2: played for, retired his number twenty jersey in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: Did he have like a presence in the Eagles locker

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Speaker 1: it was gone. But was he talked about, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just everywhere. Yeah, yeah, he is the Eagles pretty much,

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Speaker 1: He still flies out and does the shit like for

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Speaker 1: dude Brian Dawkins is. There's five categories. There's a stud,

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Speaker 1: someone who had the pedigree. He's been the guy his

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Speaker 1: too high. Dog is someone who's relentless, motivated physically and

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Speaker 1: something crazy. And then the dudes. Dude, he's the guy

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Speaker 1: who's the glue guy in the locker room, always has

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Speaker 3: I can only pick one.

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Speaker 1: He can have multiple things, but we have to stand.

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Speaker 2: You can talk about it. You know how he represents

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Speaker 2: a couple of the categories, but what mainly represents Brian Dawkins.

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Speaker 3: My first initial.

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Speaker 1: Was dog, well around was he drafted? Second?

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Speaker 3: Second, he's relentless, very motivated because he's you know, he's

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a football it's it's this is

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Speaker 2: All all five categories, and that's why it's all and

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Speaker 2: that's why he's a Hall of Famer. The Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame guy fits all five categories.

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Speaker 1: And he's also like a stud because he always was

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Speaker 1: the standard, like Brian Dawkins from day one was always

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Speaker 1: that's a tough question, man.

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Speaker 2: I mean he has an alter ego, and if you

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Speaker 2: you know, someone walks up to you like, yeah, like talk.

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Speaker 1: To my altar. I think he's either a stud or

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Speaker 3: As he just took the words out.

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Speaker 3: Guys just mixed stud and dog together.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, freaked though. The guy looks freaky strong.

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Speaker 1: He's freaking strong too, but like he's not he was

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know he's not one of these like Cam Chanceller

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Speaker 2: Because he was like six or four?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably yeah, So okay, okay, what do you leaning on, Chung?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna lean on dog? But what stud and dog?

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Speaker 3: Or would be like one a one? That's what I

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Speaker 1: And like not everyone can love a dog on the team.

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Speaker 1: Like people know, some guys like see a dog and

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Speaker 1: like did anyone ever say that to I think his

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Speaker 1: You look at Brian Dawkins and that's like the pedigree

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Speaker 1: of this is how you want your fucking safety to be. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's provocal, he's a pro. He's always done the right thing.

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Speaker 2: He can do whatever you ask him to do. On

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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. Yep, Yeah, he can,

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Speaker 2: and pay attention to him. He can force fumball, he

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Speaker 2: He can cover and zone, he can cover and man,

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Speaker 2: I mean you got to be an absolute or you

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Speaker 3: I think what Julie is saying is the younger people

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do exactly what this man is doing.

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Speaker 3: A dog is like, you can have the dog in

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Speaker 3: you but still be an idiot. Yeah, A stud is

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Speaker 3: like I want to be like him, and so I

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Speaker 3: so I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: And replicated and even you Chung, you wanted to replicate

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Speaker 2: your game exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, one, two, three, Stud with dog Tendancies.

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